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2021-Q4

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Operator

Good

day

and

welcome

to

the

Drägerwerk

AG

&

Co.

KGaA 2021

Full

Year

Results

Earning

Call.

Today's

conference

is

being

recorded.

At

this

time,

I

would

like

to

turn

the

conference

over

to

Stefan

Dräger.

Please

go

ahead,

sir.

S
Stefan Dräger

Well,

ladies and

gentlemen,

good

afternoon

and

a

warm

welcome

to

everyone

joining

us

today.

I

have

with

me

Gert-Hartwig

Lescow,

CFO;

Tom

Fischler,

Investor

Relations;

and

Peter

Müller,

Financial

Communication.

We

would

like

to

guide

you

through

the

presentation

covering

our

final

2021

full

year

results,

which

we

made

available

on

our

website

this

morning.

In

January,

we

had

already

published

preliminary

results,

and

the

guidance

for

the

current

year

was

already

published

in

November

last

year.

Let's

get

started.

I

will

elaborate

on

some

main

developments

in

2021

before

Gert-Hartwig

will

take

over

and

go

into

the

financial

details

of

the

group

and

the

divisions.

Following

the

presentation,

we

will

open

the

floor

to

your

questions.

Out

of

respect

to

everybody's

time,

we

will

end

this

conference

in

one

hour.

It

was

extraordinary

year

in

so

many

ways,

never

before

our

mission

was

as

important

as

in

these

challenging

times

to

protect,

support

and

save

lives.

We

are

doing

as

much

as

we

can

to

serve

this

mission

every

day.

That

is

how

I

started

my

comments

last

year,

exactly

one

year

back

from

now.

From

today's

perspective,

one

year

later,

this

is

still

true

even

as

we

have

all

personally

become

more

or

less

accustomed

to

life

under

pandemic

conditions,

2021

was

not

a

normal

year

for

Dräger

business.

2021

was

still

under

the

special

influence

of

the

pandemic,

which

gave

us

a

boost

in

some

business

areas.

I'm

sure

you

know

the

relevant

areas,

in

particular

Dräger

ventilators

were

high

demand

in

connection

with

the

pandemic

all

over

the

world,

especially

in

2020 but

also

in

2021,

at

least

in

the

first

half

of

the

year.

And

so,

2021

was

another

year

characterized

by

a

very

high

level

of

activity.

But

the

effort

was

worth

it. Dräger's

technology

for

life

was

once

again

able

to

help

many

of

our

customers

fight

the

pandemic.

We

have

worked

hard

for

this

important

mission,

and

it

has

also

paid

off

financially.

At

the

beginning

of

the

year,

we

had

expected

a

significant

drop

in

net

sales.

A

decline

of

between

7%

and

11%

had

been

forecast

after

sales

have

grown

by

26%

in

the

record

previous

year.

But

the

expected

normalization

did

not

set

in

until

much

later.

In

the first

half

of

the

year,

we

received

major

orders

without

much

lead

time

especially

from

some

emerging

markets.

As

a

result,

we

started

scaling

back

production

capacity

especially

in

ventilation

much

later

than

planned.

At

peak

times,

we

have

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(00:03:51) our

production

capacity

for

ventilators

[indiscernible]

(00:03:54).

The

unexpected

demand

in

H1

then

also

led

us

to

raise

our

full-year

forecast

in

the

summer

of

2021.

Eventually,

demand

began

to

normalize

in

the

second

half

of

the

year.

For

our

customers,

the

bottleneck

of

sector

in

combating

the

pandemic

was

no

longer

medical

equipment,

but

nursing staff.

The

demand

and

supply

environment

could

also

change

for

FFP

masks.

A

demand

situation

had

set

in

due

to

the

strong

global

production

capacity

expansions.

Some

major orders from

the

previous

year

had

also

been

delivered

in

the

meantime.

As

a

result,

the

second

half

of

2021

was

characterized

by

lower

order

entry

momentum

than

in

the

previous

quarter.

But

in light

of

the

strong

first

six

months,

net

sales

performance

for

the

year

as

a

whole

was

significantly

better

than

previously

expected.

Net

sales

around

€3.3

billion,

only

just

2%

below

the

record

year

of

2020.

Overall,

therefore,

sales

declined

only

slightly

compared

to

the

previous

year.

By

ventilators

and

patient

monitoring,

we're

unable

to

repeat

the

previous

year's

strong

performance.

Almost

all

other

areas

showed

good

growth.

A

similar

picture

emerges

for

the

geographical

distribution.

The

decline

particularly

affects

Europe

and

Germany,

almost

all

other

regions

and

countries,

also

countries

in

Europe

have

grown.

So,

many

product

areas

that

were

not

positively

affected

by

the

pandemic

2021,

thus

a

successful

year

as

well.

And

safety,

our

core

business,

was

able

to

celebrate

successes

again

after

a difficult

year

due

to

the

pandemic.

For

example,

a

nice

success

was

winning

the

fire

department

in

Cologne

as

a

new

customer,

which

had

previously

been

served

by

the

competition

for

many

years.

The

gas

detection

business

has

also

developed

well.

And

this

is

despite

the

fact

that

Dräger

has

of

course

also

suffered

from

the

challenges

in

the

global

supply

chain

issues.

Even

though

there

have

been

delays

in

some

area

due

to

supply

bottlenecks,

we

have

been

able

to

keep

the

situation

under

control

quite

well

overall

so

far.

Nevertheless,

procurement

remains

a

challenge

and

poses

risks

for

the

current

year.

Not

only

for

Dräger

but

for

the

entire

company.

In

fact,

the

impact

on

Dräger

has

so

far

been

much

less

than

the

bad

news

from

other

industries,

which

led

us

to

fear.

Currently,

there

are

some

shortages

leading

to

delays.

So

far,

they

have

not

led

to

a

loss

in

net

sales

only

to

a

delay

of

delivery.

In

addition

to

net

sales,

earnings

are

also

above

our

original

expectations

with

EBIT

of

€271

million,

the

EBIT

margin

is

at

8.2%,

which

is

above

the

original

forecast.

In

fact

if

the

margin

is

not

even

higher,

it's

also

due

to

a

number

of

one-offs,

which

impacted

earnings

particularly

in

the

fourth

quarter.

One

of

these

special

effects

is

the

write-down

of

our

production

capacity

in

the

mask

manufacturing

area.

You

probably

all

remember

quite

well

at

the

beginning

of

the

pandemic

when

personal protective

equipment

such

as

FFP

mask

was plus

a

much

hyped

commodity.

Export

bans

and

protectionism

suddenly

prevailed

in

the

mask

market.

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(00:08:07)

showed

up

in

the

news,

unloading

cargo

aircraft

with

masks

from

China.

Light

breathing

protection,

which

includes

FFP

masks,

have

long

been

part

of

our

portfolio

in

the

safety

division.

However,

this

product

area

was

of

small

size.

Then,

large

orders

required

local

production

at

the

beginning

of

the

pandemic.

We

reacted

quickly

and

decided

to

build

up

local

production

capacity.

We

invested

a

total

of

around

€60

million

in

expanding

capacity.

This

has

paid

off

for

us

economically.

These

investments

have

contributed

to

the

good

result

in

2020 and

even

more

in

2021

and

half

of

that

already

amortized

and

paid

off.

In

parallel,

we

have

also

professionalized

sales

for

light

breathing

protection.

So,

if

you

continue

to

believe

in

the

success

of

this

business

for

Dräger.

However,

as

the

global

market

for

masks

is

currently

oversaturated,

we

had

to

write-down

the

value

of

production

facilities

that

are

currently

not

being

utilized

as

planned.

Regardless

of

the

write-down,

we

are

convinced

that

the

production

effort

will

be

successful.

Some

production

lines

are

currently

hibernated

and

will

be

activated

if

required.

The

situation

is

different

for

the

Dräger

COVID

antigen

rapid

test

although

the

Dräger

test

is

clearly

superior

to

other

inexpensive

self-test

in

terms

of

handling,

remember

that

the Dräger

antigen test

works without

the

user

having

to

handle

any litmus, the

market

is

not

prepared

to

pay

the

necessary

premium

for

our

test.

It

probably

would

in

connection

with

a

remote

video-based

certificate,

however

a

purely

political

decision

to

no

longer

accept

video-based

certificates

have

prevented

the

success

of

our

test

and

led

to

a

write-down

as

well.

These

necessary

value

adjustments

for

the FFP

mask

and

the

antigen

test

also

prevented

our

2021

results

from

being

even

better.

That is

how

entrepreneurship

works.

There

are

opportunities

and

risks

and

not

at

all chances,

events.

And

not

at

all

chances

eventually

materialize.

Overall,

business

development

in

2021

was

very

good,

as

well

as

the

cash

flow

development.

We

used

around

€100

million

of

its

free

liquidity

to

accelerate

the

improvement

of

our

capital

structure.

In

the

first

quarter

of

2021,

we

bought

back

part

of

the

profit

participation

certificate

that

already

had

been

cancelled,

something

that

benefits

the

attractiveness

of

the

Dräger

share.

In

other

respects

too,

the

company

is

in

a

good

financial

position.

The

equity

ratio

has

been

falling

as

a

result

of

the

cancelation

of

the

profit

participation

certificate

has

largely

recovered

much

faster

than

expected.

Here

again,

we

have

seized

the

opportunity.

We

have

used

the

solid

financial

situation

to

extend

and

expand

our

important

credit

facility

with

our

core

brands

at

an

early

stage.

Theoretically,

this

significant

improvement

is

not

yet

reflected

in

the

share

price.

Personally,

I

also

find

this

development

very

disappointing.

I

do

understand

that

the

share

price

development

also

reflects

the

subdued

outlook

for

the

current

year.

And

I

assure

you

that

we

will

all

be

working

hard

to

improve

the

margin

profile

steadily

in

the

coming

years.

And

due

to

the

improvement

in

the

balance

sheet

structure,

all

shareholders

will

benefit

from

this

as

well,

and

I'm

confident

that

this

will

also

be

reflected

in

the

share

price.

Now

I'm on

slide

5.

And

before

I

handover

to

Gert-Hartwig

for

the

financials,

I

would

like

to

share

some

thoughts

on

innovation.

We

continued

the

implementation

of

our

R&D

roadmap.

In

2021,

we

launched

12

new

safety

and

9

new

medical

products.

Most

of

them

are

explained

in

the

Annual

Report.

Let

me

just

share

two

examples

with

you

here.

In

medical

last

year,

we

launched

the

ceiling

supply

unit

Ambia

and

Ponta.

Ambia

and

Ponta

help

make

workflows

in

the

operating

room

in

neonatal

and

intensive

care

units

more

efficient.

They

allow

for

an

individual

workplace

design

to

be

user

friendly

ergonomics

and

more

and more

important

the

design

allows

for

effective

infection

prevention

to

help

protect

patients

and

caregivers.

Launching

products

during

corona

times

is

quite

challenging.

For

the

launch,

we

hosted

a

global

virtual

launch

event

themed

tailor-made,

where

we

showcased

our

extensive

medical

workplace

design,

consulting

services,

and

new

portfolio

to

900-plus

sales

partners

and

customers

all

over

the

globe.

The

product

is

well-received

by

customers

and

has

led

to

good order

entry

in

the

workplace

infrastructure

use.

In

addition

to

product

innovation,

one

issue

to

which

we

continue

to

devote

the

highest

attention

is

the

implementation

of

the

plan

to

address

the

FDA

warning

letter

from

early

last

year.

Our

activities

are

progressing

as

planned,

and

we

continue

to

expect

to

be

able

to

conclude

our

activities

during

this

year.

The

FDA

will

then

decide

when

to

conduct

the

necessary

re-inspection.

Moving

on

to

some

innovations

from

the

safety

division.

And

the

safety

released

some

new

personal

protection

equipment

for

the

firefighter

with

PSS

AirBoss,

our

new

firefighting

SCBA.

Ergonomics

become

continuously

more

important.

As

a

result

of

the

greatly

reduced

weight

and

gearing

profile,

firefighters

can

move

more

freely

and

perform

their

heavy

missions

with

less

physical

strain.

In

addition,

reflective

surfaces

and

buddy

lights

increase

individual

visibility,

and

various

sensors

improves

responders'

awareness

of

their

surroundings. In

the

digital

world,

the

connected

and

automated

respiratory

protection

monitoring

system

ensures

continuous

and

unambiguous

coordination

at

the

scene

and

the

Incident

Command

Center.

This

increased

the

safety

of

the

individual

user

and

that

of

the

[indiscernible]



(00:16:02) response

team.

With

the

AirBoss, we

also

launched

our

new

fire

fighter

helmet,

HPS

SafeGuard.

It

is

a

special

shaped,

offers

maximum

protection

and

supports

the

senses

by

not

restricting

hearing

and

vision.

In

addition,

it

has

an

integrated

voice

communication

system

which

facilitates

coordination

of

the

team

and

at

the

same

time

it

is

extremely

lightweight

and

offers

optimized

hearing

comfort.

And

now,

I

would

like

to

turn

over

to

Gert-Hartwig

Lescow,

for

more

color

on

the

financial

performance.

Gert-Hartwig,

please.

G
Gert-Hartwig Lescow

Thank

you,

Stefan,

and

a

good

day

to

everyone.

As

usual,

we

focus

on

the

development

in

the

markets

when

evaluating

our

performance,

i.e.,

unless

stated

otherwise,

I

will

refer

to

figures

net

of

currency

effects

when

I

mentioned

growth

rates.

We're

on

page

7

and

I

would

like

to

start

with

the

view

on

the

Q4.

While

usually

Dräger

seasonality

is

characterized

by

a

weak

first

quarter

and

a

very

strong

fourth

quarter,

this

pattern

was

different,

almost

upside

down

in

2021

after

a

very

strong

start

into

the

year

that

gained

support

from

pandemic-driven

orders

next

to

a

weakening

of

net

sales

and

EBIT

in

the

latter

half

of

the

year.

In

addition,

the

write-offs

and

the mask

facilities

and

the

COVID

test

inventories

resulted

in

a

disappointingly

unusually

weak

fourth

quarter

in

terms

of

earnings.

This

sharp

decline

in

group

net

sales

in

Q4

compared

with

the

prior-year

quarter

is

mainly

a

base

effect.

In

the

prior-year

quarter

in

Q4 2020,

we

have

the

strongest

quarter

in

our

history

in

terms

of

sales

with

well

over

€1.1

billion

due

in

particular

to

strong

corona demand.

Against

this

tough

comparable

quarter,

net

sales

declined

by

roughly

17%.

The

decline

concerns

the

medical

business.

In

fact,

net

sales

in

safety

were back

to

the

previous

year's

quarter.

In

safety,

the

recovery

of

some

core

areas

overcompensated

the

net

sales

decline

of

the

mask

business,

where

the

deliveries

of

the

large

orders

that

have

supported

net

sales

development

in

the

prior

couple

of

quarters

are

coming

to

an

end.

Driven

by

the

lower

volumes,

the

gross

profit

margin

in

Q4

also

was

substantially

lower

than

one

year

ago,

down

by

6

points

to

just

below

41%.

And

this,

of

course,

also

includes

the

write-downs.

Currency

effects

also

burned

the

margin

in

Q4

by

roughly

1

percentage

point.

As

Stefan

Dräger

mentioned,

changing

market

conditions

required

the

write-downs

in

our

facilities

and

inventories

for FFP

masks

and

the

COVID-19

antigen

test.

These

write

downs

mixed

to

some

minor

one-offs

amounted

to

roughly

€35

million.

And

the

Q4

EBIT

amounts

to

only

€14.7

million.

On

a

positive

note,

some

€850

million

order

entry

in

the

quarter

was

on

a

very

good

level,

some

12%

in

the

past –

previous

year's

quarter.

Both

divisions

in

all

three

regions

contributed

to

the

good

order

intake.

This

makes

us

confident

that

we

will

have

a

good

start

into

2022.

Let's

now

take

a

closer look

at

the

full-year quarter.

As

already

mentioned

by

Stefan,

financially,

2021

was

much

better

than

originally

expected.

Compared

with

a

record

year

2020,

the

comparable

figures

are,

of

course,

of

limited

significance.

Order

entry

declined

by

roughly

18%

for

the

full

year,

with

the

biggest

decline

coming

from

Europe

due

to

the

very

strong

prior

year

there.

Due

to

the

timing

delays,

as

a

good

portion

of

orders

received

in

2020

were

delivered

in

2021,

net

sales

declined

much

less

than

the

order

entry

by

only

a

modest

1.8%.

In

line

with

the

lowered

sales

volume,

our

gross

profit

also

declined.

This

development

was

mainly

due

to

a

decline

in

net

sales

and

margins

in

the

second

half

of

the

year,

compared

to

a

very

strong

prior

year.

In

the

first

two

quarters,

sales

and

earnings

were

also

positively

influenced

by

the

call-off

agreement

for

ventilators

for

the

German

Federal

Ministry

of

Health.

The

lower

gross

margin

of

the

full

year

is

attributable,

among

other

things,

to

lower

production

capacity

utilization

and

a

less

stable

country

and

product

mix.

Currency

effects

only

had

a

slightly

negative

impact

on

gross

profit

and

gross

margin.

At

46.3%,

the

margin

was

roughly

one

percentage

point

below

the

prior-year

figure.

Adjusted

for

currency

effects,

our

functional

costs

were

some

5%

higher

than

in

the

previous

year,

functional

cost

increased

due

to

higher

expenses

for

external

services

and

research

and

development

in

particular,

and

an

increase

in

the

number

of

employees.

The

research

and

development

activities

have

a

high

priority

for

Dräger,

and

the

R&D

expenses

increased

by

some

14%,

resulting

in

an

R&D

ratio

of

nearly

10%.

We

will

continue

to

renew

our

product

portfolio

unabated

in

2022, and

we

expect

to

spend

between

€320

million

and

€335

million

in

research

and

development.

Overall,

earnings

in

2021

were

impacted

by

a

slight

decline

in

net

sales

for

the

year

as

a

whole

with

costs

tending

to

rise.

As

a

result,

EBIT

amounted

to

a

very

good

level

of

just

below

€272

million,

corresponding

to

EBIT

margin

of

8.2%.

Currency

impact

on

earnings

for

the

full

year

were

negligible

on

the

group

level.

Next,

let's

get

to

the

P&L

below

the

EBIT

line.

At

€35

million,

interest

was

on

the

same

level

as

in

2020.

There

are

two

unrelated

reasons

for

this.

In

2020,

the

high

interest

expense

includes

costs

for

the

cancellation

of

the

participation

certificates

which

was

significantly

lower

in

2021.

In

2021,

however,

the

interest

expense

includes

an

adjustment

for

the

repayment

obligation

to

the

minority

shareholder

of

Draeger

Arabia.

This

is

a

one-off

effect

and

will

not

be

repeated

in

the

current

year.

Hence,

the

interest

in

2022

is

expected

to

be

considerably

lower

and

in

the

range

of

€17

million to

€23

million.

Mainly

due

to

valuation

allowance

on

deferred

tax

assets,

the

tax

rate

increased

to

34.5%



34.8%.The

tax

rate

as

well

should

normalize

again

between

31%

and

34%

in

the

current

year.

Consequently,

net

profit

is

down

to

€154.3

million.

The

primary

metric

with which

we

see

our

business

is

the DVA,

the

Dräger

Value

Added.

While

lower

than

in

the

records

2020,

the DVA

amounted

to

round €172

million

in

the

last

year,

mainly

due

to

the

lower

earnings

levels.

Now,

let's

look

at

some

key

financial

ratios

for

the

last

year

on

page

8.

Cash

inflow

was

again

at

a

very

good

level

in

2021,

even

though

operating

cash

flow

was

lower

than

in

the

record

year

2020, it

was

still

substantially

stronger

than

in

pre-corona

years.

With

a

lower

cash

outflow

for

investments

in

2021,

Dräger

was

able

to

improve

free

cash

flow

by

nearly

€80

million

and

pass

the

already

high

level

of

the

prior

year.

Overall,

we've

generated

a positive

free

cash

flow

of

€275

million.

The

main

driver

for

the

strong

operating

cash

flow

was

of

course

the

continued

high

profitability.

The

year-on-year

decline

in

profitability

was

offset

by

a

significant

improvement

in

working

capital.

This

was

due

in

particular

to

the

cash

flow

from

receivables

and

inventories.

These

two

also

offset

a

lower

increase

in

trade

accounts

payable

and

other

liabilities.

In

the

previous

year,

the

latter

included

an

advance

payment

of

around

€80

million for

call

options

and

connections

with

our

respiratory

equipment

business.

These

call

options

have

since

expired.

The

decrease

in

operating

cash

inflow

is

mainly

attributable

to

the

decline

in

other

provisions,

which

include

higher

variable

compensation

for

2021

paid

out

in

2020 – for

2020

paid

out

in

2021

as

well

as

stronger

reductions

in

tax

receivables.

As

I

said,

cash

outflow

for

investments

was

lower

in

2020 than

in



2021 than

in

2020,

improving

free

cash

flow

about

€153

million.

The

main

reason

for

this

is

a

decrease

in

cash

investments

in

money

market

funds.

In

2021,

we

had

net

investments

in

such

money

market

funds,

of

€139

million,

while

in

2021

we

had

a

small

redemption

of

about

€9

million.

Excluding

these

changes

in

money

market

funds,

actual

investments

were

at

the

level

of

the

previous

year.

In

the

current

financial

year,

the

planned

volume

of

capital

expenditure

will

remain

roughly

at

the

current

level

between

€120

million to

€140

million.

This

includes

investments

for

the

modernization

of

some

of

our

facilities

in

Lübeck.

Our

cash

position

at

the

end

of

2021

amounted

to

€445

million.

In

addition,

about

€130

million are

currently

invested

in

said

money

market

funds.

While

this

liquidity

position

is

currently

very

high,

please

have

in

mind

the

cash

outflow

in

January

2023

to

redeem

the

remaining

participation

certificates

in

the

amount

of

roughly

€208

million.

Due

to

the

strong

cash

generation,

our

net

financial

debt

has

substantially

improved.

Leverage

of

the

group

remains

conservative

with

a

net

financial

debt

to

EBITDA

ratio

of

minus

0.06.

The

equity

ratio

also

improved

markedly

by

almost

8.5

percentage

points

to

a

total

of

€39.7

million.

It

was

not

only

the

high

profitability

that

contributed

to

this

improvement

by

around

4.7

percentage

points.

Our

equity

ratio

also

benefited

from

lower

pension

obligations

due

to

an

increase

in

the

relevant

interest

rates

and

from

the

reduction

in

total

assets

following

the

redemption

of

the

Series

A

and

Series K

and Series

D

part

of

the

participation certificates

in

the

first quarter

of

2021.

While

the

net profit

declined

by

roughly

38%, the

decline

in EPS

was

less

pronounced.

This

is

a

positive effect

of

the

partial

redemption

of

the

participation

certificates

and

the

buyback in

Q1

last

year. Under

the

assumption of

full

distribution, the

EPS for

the

common

shares

is €7.13

and

€7.19

for

the

preferred

shares after

EPS in

the

record year

2020 was

at

€10.19

and

€10.25, respectively.

The

final

redemption

of

the remaining

participation

certificates

will have

an

additional positive

effect

on EPS

once

they're

paid

back

and

no longer

participate

in

the

earnings

for

the year

2023.

Let me

now come

to

the business

development

in

the

medical division

on page

9. In

medical,

the

order

intake

decreased

by more

than

22%.

The

decline reflects

the

pandemic-driven

record

order

intake of

the previous

year.

For example,

the order

intake

for

the

respiratory equipment

was

down

significantly

and

the

order

intake

in the

patient

monitoring

and

the

data

management

area

and

in

the

hospital

consumables

business

was

also

well

below

the

very

high

prior-year

level.

On

the

other

hand,

some

areas

that

did

not

perform

well

in

the

prior

year

performed

better

again.

These

include,

for

example,

our

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(00:29:02) regulation

business

and

also

our

workplace

infrastructure

business,

and

our

service

business

also

recorded

a

stronger

demand.

In

regional

terms,

we

recorded

the

largest

declines

of

order

intake

and

sales

in

Europe,

where

we

had

just

recorded

the

largest

increases

in

the

year

before.

In

line

with

the

sharp

decline

in

net

sales

of

nearly

10%,

the

gross

profit

of

the

medical

division

also

decreased

by

11%,

due

to

the

high

share

of

respiratory

care,

particularly

in

the

first

nine

months,

the

gross

margin

decreased

only

slightly

by

0.3

percentage

points.

Functional

expenses

increased

as

planned

and

were

3%

higher

than

in

the

previous

year.

The

key

driver

were

higher

expenses

in

research

and

development.

In

consequence,

medical

EBIT

amounted

€191.6

million

corresponding

to

EBIT

margin

of

9.3%.

The

DVA

declined

with

the

lower

earnings

to

€132

million.

Moving

on

to

the

safety

division

on

page

10. In

safety,

order

entry

in

2021

was

down

8.8%

year-on-year.

The

decline

was

due

to

lower

demand for

live

breathing

protection

predominantly

FFP

masks,

compared

to

the

pandemic

related

strong

prior

year.

As

already

mentioned,

we

are

facing

a

massive

oversupply

of

masks

in

the

global

market.

In

this

environment,

it

is

extremely

challenging

to

win

new

orders

and

to

fully

utilize

the

existing production

capacities.

On

a

positive

note,

there

was

stronger

demand

for

many

of

our

other

core

product

areas,

particularly

our

service

business

and

the

gas

detection

business.

We

also

recorded

higher

order

volumes

for

respiratory

and

personnel

protection

products

following

the

decline

in

the

previous

year.

In

regional

terms,

the

decline

in

order

entry

was

mainly

from

Europe,

where

we,

again,

had

won

the

bulk of

the

large

mask

orders

in

2020.

After

declines

in

the

previous

year,

our

net

sales

in

safety

rose

by

14.5%

in

2021.

Deliveries

increased

significantly

in

all

regions.

As

a

result

of

the

strong

increase

in

net

sales,

gross

profit

improved

by

10%,

mainly

due

to

the

volume

effects,

particularly

from

the

FFP

mask

business

and

the

positive

product

and

country

mix.

Gross

margin,

nevertheless,

decreased

by

1.8

percentage

points.

This

was

mainly

due

to

the

write-downs

in

our

production

equipment

and

the

inventories

for

FFP

masks

and

the

Dräger

COVID-19

antigen

rapid

test.

Just

to

clarify,

despite

these

write-downs,

the

FFP

mask

business

built

up

in

the

wake

of

the

pandemic

was

successful

and

made

a

significant

positive

contribution

to

earnings

in

2021.

Mainly

due

to

the

increased

expenses

in

the

local

sales

organization

and

in

research

and

development,

functional

expenses

were

up

by

about

9%.

Safety

EBIT

increased

by

roughly

€30

million

to

€80

million.

The

EBIT

margin

was

slightly

higher

at

6.3%,

and DVA

increased

to

just

below €40

million.

In

light

of

the

very

good

business

development

during

the

pandemic,

the

opportunity

was

taken

in

Q1

and

Q2

2020

to

simplify

our

capital

structure

and

to

cancel

all

participation

certificates.

In

total,

the

payment

of

the

– further

redemption

of

all

participation

certificates

amounts

to

approximately

€470

million.

More

than

half

of

this

has

already

been

paid

in

Q1

last

year,

namely

€157

million

for

the

Series

A and

Series K

in

January

2021,

and

a

further €100

million

for

part

of

Series

B,

which

we

bought

back

in

Q1

last

year

below

their

refund

amount.

The

transaction

was

successfully

closed

and

with

immediate

positive

benefits

on

the

equity

ratio

and

EPS.

The

final

amount

of

€208

million

for

the

remaining

participation

certificate

Series

B

is

due

in

January

next

year

and

will

be

paid

in

full

by

existing

liquidity.

These

certificates

will

still

receive

a

final

dividend

payment

in

2023

for

the

business

year

2022. After

the

elimination

of

the

participation

certificates

next

year,

the

future

profit

goes

entirely

to

our

shareholders.

This

will

be

directly

apparent

in

higher

earnings

per

share.

Considering

the

dilution

effects

of

the

capital

increase,

the

EPS

will

rise.

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(00:33:41)

by about

27%.

That's

it

for

the

financial

overview.

Thank

you.

Back

to

you,

Stefan.

S
Stefan Dräger

Thank

you,

Gert-Hartwig.

Coming

to

our

dividend

proposal

and

outlook.

The

cancelation

of

the

participation

certificates

of

2020

resulted

in

a

strong

increase

of

net

debt

and

a

sharp

fall

of

the

equity

ratio.

Against

this

background,

we

had

decided

for

a

higher

profit

retention

until

the

equity

ratio

had

risen

again

to

a

level

of

over

40%.

The

good

business

development

of

the

last

two

years

has

considerably

improved

the

situation.

We

are

not

quite

at

the

previous

levels

again.

However,

we

expect

to

surpass

the

40%

equity

ratio

in

the

current

year,

and

we'll

then

propose

a

higher

dividend.

I

know

the

dividend

proposal

will

remain

on

the

current

level

of

€0.13

for

a

common

share

and

€0.19

for

a

preferred

share.

Now,

before

we

go

into

the

Q&A,

let

me

share

with

you the

outlook

for

the

calendar

year

2020. The

outlook

is

unchanged

to

the

guidance

we

communicated

in

November

last

year.

As

we

are

all

aware,

with

the

war

in

Ukraine,

the

world now

faces

its

worst

global

security

threat

since

decades.

While

a

human

tragedy

beyond

words,

it

is

our

responsibility

to

evaluate

the

economic

implications

for

Dräger.

Ukraine

and

Russia,

our

combined

sales

are

less

than

2%

of

the

group.

Today,

it

is

unclear

how

strong

their

net

sales

and

earnings

will

decline

from

this

region

in

the

current

year.

The

conflict

has

not

been

factored

into

the

guidance

and

naturally

poses

headwinds

for the

guidance.

The

corona

pandemic

has

provided

substantial

economic

opportunities

for

Dräger

in

the

last

two

years.

However,

this

tailwind

has

faded,

and

order

development

has

normalized

again.

This

results

in

the

expected

lower

net

sales

development

than

during

the

pandemic.

And

compared

to

the

high

level

of

2021,

we

expect

a

currency

adjusted,

a

decline

in

net

sales

of

between

5%

and

9%.

Despite the

decline,

the

net

sales

level

is

well

above

the

pre-pandemic

levels,

the

net

sales

decline

would

be

more

pronounced

in

medical

than

in

safety.

In

the

last two

years,

the

pandemic-driven

orders

also

had

a

positive

effect

on

realized

prices

and

product

mix,

and

hence,

on

the

gross

profit

margin.

The

current

normalization

of

the

top

line

and

product

mix

has

therefore

a

negative

effect

on

the

gross

margin.

We

expect

the

gross

margin

to

be

between

44%

and

46%

this

year.

We

do

see

improvement

potential

of

the

gross

margin

in

the

future

when

the

new

products

gain

more

volume.

Profitability

is

also

being

impacted

by

a

significantly

higher

prices

for

energy,

raw

materials

and

electronic

components

and

continued

high

freight

and

logistic

cost.

In

the

interest

of

strong and

medium-term

growth,

Dräger

is

also

making

targeted

investments

in

selective

focus

markets

to

expand structures

and

specific

sales

capabilities.

At

the

same

time,

Dräger

is

continuing

its

innovation

initiatives

in

the

medical

division

and

is

therefore

investing

in

R&D

projects

for

the

medium-term

benefit.

Taking

all

this

into

account,

we

expect

the

2022

full

year

EBIT

margin

to

be

in

the

range

between

1%

and

4%.

Following

the

decline

in

net

sales

and

profitability

in

2022,

we

expect

a

steady

increase

in

net

sales

and

an

improvement

in

earnings

in

the

following

years.

Starting

2023, Dräger

will

return

to

revenue

growth

and

also

increase

its

profitability

again.

The

implementation

of

the

gradual

renewal

of

our

product

portfolio

and

the

expansion

of

our

offering

will

support

both

revenue

and

gross

margin.

We

also

expect

additional

leverage,

and

our

functional

cost

will

only

increase

at

a

rate

below

the

growth

rate

of

sales

from

then

on.

We

consider

the

midterm

effects

from

the

pandemic

to

be,

economically

speaking,

net

positive

for

Dräger.

We

expect

to

see

higher

investment

into

ICU

infrastructure.

In

the

coming

years,

the

new

ICU

capacity

is

built

up

or

modernized

in

many

years,

on

areas

of

the world.

Dräger

is best

positioned

to

benefit

from

such

a

structural

improvement

of

hospital

investments.

We

also

see

an

increased

demand

for

safety

and

security

in

the

future

to

the

benefit

of

our

safety

business

at

Dräger.

With

this, I

would

like

to

end

the

presentation.

You

can

find

some

additional guided figures

like

investments,

R&D

budget,

etcetera,

in

the

appendix

of

the

presentation.

All

guided

figures

are

based

on

the

assumption

of

stable

exchange

rates

at

the

beginning

of

the

year.

And

now,

the

floor

is

open

to

your

questions.

Please

ask

them

now.

Hello,

operator?

Operator

Sorry

for

the

interruption.

[Operator Instructions]

We'll

now

take

our

first question

from Eggert Kuls

from

Warburg

Research.

Please

go

ahead.

E
Eggert Kuls
Analyst, Warburg Research GmbH

Yes.

Hello.

I

have

a

question

regarding

your,

again,

heavy

R&D

budget

for

2022.

I

can

remember

some

five

years

ago

or

so, you

have

started

to

increase

your

R&D

budget

heavily

and,

at

the

time,

I

understood

that

this

will

last

maybe

for

two

or

three

years.

But

meanwhile,

the

budget

has

become

bigger

and

bigger

year-by-year.

So

meanwhile,

we

are

at

roughly

10%

of

your

sales

volume.

And

when

I

go

back

10

years

back,

it

was

7%

to

8%.

So,

the

question

is

can

we

expect

any

time

in

the

future

to

come

back

to

old

levels

with

regard

to

the

R&D

budget?

Or

is

that

something

we

should

expect

forever?

S
Stefan Dräger

You

are

correct,

[indiscernible]



(00:41:59)

your

observation

and

that

was

to

some

extent

that

the

deviation

from

our

own

expectation

and

to

a

significant

extent

that's

due

to

the

FDA

warning

letter

that

we

received

at

the

beginning

of

2020

that

pointed

out

some

weak

points

that

we

had

historically

with

us

in

the

US

operation.

And

we

are

still

in

the

course

of

remediation

of

this

as

I

pointed

out.

And

so,

our

expectation

is

that

this

extra

effort

should

come

to

an

end

during

the

course

of

this

year.

So

in

– so

from

2023

on,

we

expect

that

the

R&D

expenses

will

only

grow

under

proportionately

and

we

will

return

to

a

more

normal,

let's

say,

ratio.

And

so,

this

growing

out

of

proportion

very

clearly

will

not

go

on

forever.

E
Eggert Kuls
Analyst, Warburg Research GmbH

Okay.

That's

good

to

hear

because,

in

the

past,

I

got

always the

impression

that

after

a

heavy

R&D

cycle,

your

margin

improved

significantly

afterwards,

your

public

contribution

of

a

new

product.

But,

anyway,

regarding

the

dividend,

so

I

was

initially

expecting

a

higher

dividend

only

from

2023

onwards

when

our

participation

rights

have

been

canceled.

So,

did

I

understood

it

right

that

you

have

spoken

about

the

higher

dividend

already

in

2022?

S
Stefan Dräger

Indirectly

because

we

said

at

all

times

that

we

will

consider

a

higher

dividend

when

it

costs

us



the

equity

costs

us

a

40%

mark.

And

I

said

earlier

that

we

expect

this

to

happen

now

already

during

the course

of

this

year

because

of

the

very

good

business

development

in

2020

and

2021.

So, the

good news

is

that

it

will

happen

faster,

that

we

can

go

to

a

different

level.

E
Eggert Kuls
Analyst, Warburg Research GmbH

So,

I

think

you

spoke

when

you

brought

the

common

shares

to

the

market

in

2010

or

2009

about

the

payout

ratio

of

some

30%.

So,

is

that

something

we

can

expect

already

even

for

2022,

to

make

a

rough

calculation

for

the

possible

dividend?

S
Stefan Dräger

Yeah.

Also,

your

memory

is

correct.

And

I

remember

that

your

colleagues

were

instrumental in

making

this

happen

that

we

did

IPO

and

common

shares

at

that

time

in

2010.

However,

then

things

have

changed

since

then.

And

so,

many

unexpected

things

happened

like

the

opportunity

for

the

cancellation

of

the

participation

certificates

and

where

we

get

to

in

the

future,

we

will

see

mainly

cost

to

40%

mark.

E
Eggert Kuls
Analyst, Warburg Research GmbH

Okay. Thank

you very

much.

That's

for

the

time

being.

Operator

We

will

now take

our

next

question

from

Oliver

Reinberg

from

Kepler.

Please

go

ahead.

O
Oliver Reinberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux SA /Germany/

Oh,

yeah. Thanks.

Good afternoon,

thanks

for

taking

my

question.

Three

if

I

may.

Firstly,

on

the

geopolitical

situation,

thanks

for

the

color

that

you

provided.

Can

you

just

talk

about

what

are

the

potential

impacts

that

you

see

in

your

business,

not

in

terms

of

quantifying

it,

but

where

could

you

face

headwinds?

I

mean,

it's

obvious

that

the

demand

from

Russia

may

decline.

But

is

there any

kind

of

incremental

concerns

in

terms

of

supply

chain

or

inflation

pressure

or

any

kind

of

other

indirect

implications

from

this

kind

of

developments?

I

mean,

it's

early

and

tough

to

call,

but

if

you

just

can

share

your

thinking

on

that.

And

I

noted

that

in

the

annual

report,

you

talked

about

that

there's

strong

expected

demand

for

ventilators

in

Russia.

And

I

think

you

also

pointed

out

a

strong

chemicals

industry

in

Russia.

So,

I'm

just

cross-checking

into

guide

that

you

provided,

what

is

based

on

an

early

assumption

of

a

strong,

significant

growth,

which

was

to

have

increased

the

exposure

to

Russia, Ukraine,

and

Belarus

towards

the

north

of

2%?

That's

the

first

question

for

me.

Secondly,

on

FDA.

Can

you

just

clarify?

Have

you

had

any

kind

of

specific

discussion

with

the

regulator

at

this

point

in

time?

Also,

what

kind

of

progress

have

you

made

in

terms

of

the

kind

of

software

launches

for

monitoring?

And

then

the

update

when

you

would

be

willing

to

file

for

approval

of

the

Atlan

anesthesia

device

in

the

US?

And

third,

last

one

if

I

may,

just

in

the

order

intake. The

12%

growth

looks

actually

quite

encouraging

even

if

we

adjust

for

minor

support

from

base

effects.

But

is

this

broad

based?

Can

this

continue?

And

also,

you

indicated

that

you

see

a

chance

for

ICU

capacity

being

ramped

up.

Are

there

any

kind

of

specific

projects

you're already

seeing

or

is

it

just

an

expectation

for

future

years?

Thanks

so

much.

S
Stefan Dräger

Well,

thank

you

for

your

question,

Mr.

Reinberg.

I'll

start

with

the

first

one

and

are

happy

to

share

some

thoughts

on

the

effects

of

the

Ukraine.

They

were

the

first

[indiscernible]



(00:48:17)

beyond

the

business

implications.

It's

an

emotional

and

humanitarian

catastrophe

that

the

invasion

of

Russia

into

Ukraine

exactly

one

week

ago.

In

Thursday

morning, we

woke

up

in

a

different

world,

very

different

from

what

we

experienced

for

the

last

[ph]



77 (00:48:39) years.

And

so,

we

have

no

owned

organization,

subsidiaries

in

Ukraine.

However,

we

do

have

from

Russia

110

colleagues

of

us

and

quite

a

number

of

them

I

know

personally,

and

they

all

have

different

opinions.

They

all

differ

and

are

not

the

same

from

what

the

government's

opinion

is,

one

from

the

other.

And

to

me,

it

is

of

utmost

importance

to

treat –

that

we

treat

each

other

with

respect

and

tolerance

and

expect



and

accept

different

opinions

here

to

avoid

a

further

falling

apart

of

the

society,

as

we

already

experienced

during

the

COVID

times,

which

may

be

the

ultimate

target

of

the

aggressor.

And

the

business

impact,

we

have

evaluated

and

as

I

– we

said,

the

elements

that

you

mentioned,

the

growth

potential

for

ventilator

in

Russia

and

for

the

chemical

industry,

that

was

figured

in

the

figures

that

we

gave.

And

whilst

we

expect

that

we

have

opportunities

in

other

areas

of

the

world as

well,

it

would

not

bring

us

some

north

of

the

2%

portion

of

this

– of

sales

that

we

have

in

Russia.

And

please

keep

in

mind

that

as

we

are

making

technology

for

life,

that

we

firmly

believe

[indiscernible]



(00:50:46)

all

human

beings

in

the world

in

all

countries,

no

matter

what

government

they

have,

we

will

continue

to

serve

Russia

as

a

country,

observing

all

rules

and

regulations

for

business

all

over

the

world

and

all

sections.

And

typically,

we

get

exemptions

for

medical

equipment.

So,

this

2%

will

not

drop

to

zero.

And

the



that

area

– so,

the

sales

impact

is,

I

would

say,

not

too

significant.

And

with

that,

try

to

evaluate

the

supply

chain

that

you

mentioned.

We

are

not

overly

dependent

on

energy

and

not

too

energy

intensive,

our

business

operations.

And

so

far,

we

could

not

find

any

other

significant

raw

material

or

component.

The

biggest,

I'd

say,

share

of

our

supplies

that

we

actually

– where

the

value

creation

is

in

Russia

is

software

development.

And

here,

we

work

with

a

global

partner

in

our

contract

over

to

US.

So



however

the

employees,

they

are

local

– Russians

are

located

in

Russia

that

work

for

Dräger

on

the

job.

So,

that

will

not

have

an

immediate

impact

on

the

products

at

least

our

– the

plant

and

the

contract

is

with

the

US.

So,

that

is

not

too

bad

either.

However,

the

indirect

effects

that

it

can

result

from

disruption

of

the

supply

chain

in

some

other

areas

will

not

oversee

today,

can

be

much,

I

would

say,

more

significant

than

2%.

The

whole

world

economy

could

have

an

impact

that

is

far

beyond

2%

and

that's

not figured

into

our

guidance,

of

course

not.

As

I

mentioned

that's

the

exception,

these

effects

that

we

cannot

quantify

and

do

not

know

yet

are

not

included.

So,

that

is

the



I

think,

and

it

take

care

of

the

number

one

question.

Effects

of

the

geopolitical

crisis

and

the

war

in

Ukraine.

The

second,

on

FDA.

So,

the

major

effort

is

on

the

remediation

of

the

findings

that

we

are –

laid

out

in

the

warning

letter.

That's

all

been

addressed

and

worked

on

continuously.

With

a

close

communications

with

the

FDA

and

we

expect

the

– that

we

are

ready

for

reinspection

after

remediation

of

all

the

issues

during

the

course

of

this

year.

When

the

actual

reinspection

does

take

place

and

we'll

get

the

clearance,

that

is

not

completely

in

our

hands.

And

we

won't

compromise

the

authority

of

the

FDA

when

they

actually

– so

if

they

have

time

to

do

that.

There,

we

do

have

some

progress

on

the

market.

So,

for

the

US,

the

very

important

step

was

that

we

have

received

the

official

clearance,

that

we

can

resume

the

marketing

of

the

Infinity

Acute

Care

System

VG

4.2

version.

Then



that

we

had

subdued

marketing.

It's –

so

a

period

of

over

two

years,

so

that

can

now

resume.

That's

a –

there's

– and

that

information

is

not

two

or

three

weeks old

work only. So,

that's



it's

in

progress.

But

we

are

still

working

on

the

[indiscernible]



(00:55:10)

that

you

remember

very

correctly

that

is

not

affected

by

the

warning

letter

but

that's

a

separate

issue.

And

that

is

the

cybersecurity

guideline

that

requires

authentication

mechanisms

for

each

and

every

device

to

be

secure

in

the

sales

and

not

depend

on

the

hospital

network

to

be

secured

by

firewall.

And

that

is

very

deeply

in

the

design

and

that

is

still

in

the

works. And so our

plan

is



will

not

significantly

contribute

to

the

US

success

in

this

year.

G
Gert-Hartwig Lescow

And

the

last

question

was

for

the

composition

of

the

net

order

entry.

And

if

as

you

have

observed

and

we've

pointed

out,

net

order

entry

was

quite

strong

in

the

fourth

quarter

2021.

It

was

about

16%

higher

on

the

safety

and

was

about

13%

higher

on

the

medical

compared

to

the

fourth

quarter

of

the

prior

year.

And

that

includes

better

order

entry

really

across

the

portfolio

for

many

areas

that

were

weaker

during

corona,

and

which

have

now

recovered.

So,

we

see

that

also

is

an

indication

of

continued

robust

development

and

includes

our

GDS

business

on

the

safety

side,

our

safety

respiratory

care

protective

systems

business

and

also

our

services,

which

were

all

up

double

digits

on

the

safety

side.

And

on

the

medical

side

as

well,

other

products

from

our

therapies,

so

including

anesthesia

and

thermoregulation,

but

also our

workplace

infrastructure

business

were

up

more

than

10%

and

often

more

than

20%

compared

to

the

fourth

quarter

of

the

previous

year.

And

again

on

medical

as

well,

our

service

business

progressed

quite

nicely

with

double

digit

growth

as

well.

So,

overall,

to

your

question,

a

robust

growth

across

the

portfolio

with

a

few

exceptions

that

shouldn't

avoid.

Patient

monitoring

was

weaker.

Since

that

had

strongly

benefited

from

corona,

it

doesn't

do

to

the

same

degree.

And

our

HTA

business,

which

actually

has

seen

very

strong

growth,

was

just

barely

on

the

same

level

as

in

the

fourth

quarter,

just

indicating

that

this

is

not

an

[indiscernible]



(00:58:03) but

really

robust

growth

across

the

portfolio.

O
Oliver Reinberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux SA /Germany/

Super.

Very

helpful. And

sorry

if

I

just

can

ask

on

this

ICU

project?

I

mean,

is there

any

kind

of

tender

projects

you're

seeing?

G
Gert-Hartwig Lescow

No

particularly

large

projects

that

would

stand

out.

Our

demand

is

for

many

products

that

go

into

the

ICU.

So,

yes,

there

is

demand

from

the

ICU

but

not



no

large

individual

projects

that

would

be

worth

mentioning

at

this

point.

O
Oliver Reinberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux SA /Germany/

Super.

And

last

question

will

be

on

ventilators,

the

current

demand

and

the

order

intake,

is

that

significantly

below

pre-pandemic

level

or

is

it

still

at around

normal

levels?

S
Stefan Dräger

That's

around

normal

level.

So,

the

other

that

we

considered

during

the

pandemic,

remember

when

we

received the

10,000 ventilators

ordered.

I

must

say

[indiscernible]



(00:59:06)

some

saturation

effects

after, so

that

did

not

happen.

So,

in

some,

say,

regional

markets,

a

slight

exaggeration,

I

would

say.

But

in

other

geographical

areas,

an

increased

awareness

of

how

important

a

good

ICU

equipment

is.

So,

that

levels

us

and

it

is

at

or

slightly

above

the

level

that

we

would

have

had

with

no

pandemic.

O
Oliver Reinberg
Analyst, Kepler Cheuvreux SA /Germany/

Super. Thanks

so

much.

Sorry

for

the

– taking

so

much

time,

but

that

was

very

insightful.

S
Stefan Dräger

You're

welcome.

[Operator Instructions]

Operator

We'll

now

take

our

next

question

from

[indiscernible]



(00:59:53).

Please

go

ahead.

U

Yeah.

Good

afternoon.

Thanks

for

taking

my

question.

I

only

have

one

question.

Does

Dräger

have

any

exposure

to

the

defense

industry,

and

is

there

any

upside

potentials

foreseeable

in

respect

of

safety

equipment

for

national

defense

budgets? Thank

you.

G
Gert-Hartwig Lescow

It

is

very

limited.

We

do

have

products,

obviously,

especially

our

technical

products

that

go

into

other

military

goods,

but

if

you

look

at

it

from

a

commercial

point

of

view,

it's

less

than

1%

of

our

group

sales

and



which

really

supports

a

thesis

in

both

directions.

Our

downside

is

limited

and

similarly

is

our

upside

from

the

discussion,

and

I'm

sure

Stefan

Dräger

can

add

some

more

color

to

that.

S
Stefan Dräger

Yes.

Not

so

much

more

to

add.

So,

overall

sales

is

less

than

1%.

It's

for

defense.

And

we

do

not

see

an

immediate

upside.

I

had

a

call

this

morning.

So

somebody

asked

for

helmets.

We

said,

well,

we

don't

have

ballistic

helmets.

We

have

– we

do

develop

and

manufacture

helmets

for

firefighters.

And

the

answer

was,

no.

We

don't

need

this.

U

Okay.

Right.

Thank

you

very

much.

Operator

As

there

are

no

further

questions

in

the

queue

at

this

time,

I'd

like

to

turn

the

call

back

to

your

speakers

for

any

additional

or

closing

remarks.

S
Stefan Dräger

Well,

thank

you

very

much. Then

we

can

close

this

call

on

time.

Thank

you

very

much

for

being

with

us

today

and

for

the

lively

discussion

and

look

forward

to

hearing

from

you

all

one

day

meeting

you

again

in

person.

So

for

now,

have

a

pleasant

rest of

the

day

and

goodbye.

Operator

Thank

you.

That

will

conclude

today's

conference

call. Thank

you

for

your

participation.

Ladies

and

gentlemen,

you

may

now

disconnect.

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