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Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q3

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome, and thank you for joining the adidas AG Q3 2021 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Sebastian Steffen, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Sebastian Steffen
Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Thanks very much, Stuart. Good evening, good afternoon, good morning, everyone, wherever you are joining us virtually today, and welcome to our Q3 results conference call. Our presenters today are our CEO, Kasper Rorsted; and our CFO, Harm Ohlmeyer. We will kick it off in a second with their prepared remarks, which will be followed by a Q&A session. As always, I would like to ask you that during the Q&A session, you'll limit your questions to two in order to allow as many people as possible to ask a question. And now without any further ado, over to you, Kasper.

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

Thank you very much, and welcome also from my side. First, I'll provide you with a high-level view on some recent developments in our focus areas. Afterwards, I'll recap our business development in the third quarter, and then Harm will take you through the financials in greater detail. And he will also provide an update on operational -- on the operational situation and how we address the current external challenges. And finally, I'll discuss the outlook. And despite being confronted with severe challenges on both the supply and demand side, we are well on track to deliver our successful first year of our new strategic cycle. We have the right strategy in place to succeed even in a challenging market environment like the one we're currently faced with. Own the Game is our growth and investment strategy. It's grounded in sport and has the consumer at the heart. With clear strategic direction until 2025, we are in execution mode as one team together with more than 60,000 team members globally. Speaking of Owning the Game, I'm very proud to say our people clearly Own the Game. Out of 750 companies, Adidas has been ranked among the top 20 companies in Forbes World Best Employer list for 2021, and is one of only 4 German companies included in the ranking. This recognition clearly goes out to our people. It's them who help us create a working environment where everyone can be successful, feel like they belong and consistently thrive. It is also our people who contributed to forming our new people strategy that we rolled out in office. Our people strategy focuses on leadership, betterment and performance with diversity, equity and inclusion, right across all 3 dimensions, ensuring inclusion and an equal starting line for everyone. In addition to the commitments we've already made, I'm delighted to share another concrete and measurable goal we put behind ENI. It is to increase the share of women in leadership positions to above 40% by 2025. At the end of last year, the number was 34.5% for adidas. With our people strategy we will set the pace even beyond our industry. We're also making great progress in another strategic focus area of our strategy, sustainability. I'm happy to report that leading rating agency Standard & Poor's just awarded us a strong ESG rating for our outstanding sustainability performance. Adidas was given an ESG profile score of 79 out of 100, one of the highest scores applied across all companies assessed globally. Combined with a strong Preparedness Score of 6, the company's overall score amounts to 85, placing adidas sixth in the entire S&P rating universe. In its comprehensive assessment, Standard & Poor's emphasized our industry-leading approach to innovation, supply chain management and consumer engagement. The results further underlying our leadership approach to manage sustainability across all dimensions of our company. I'm convinced that the continued integration of sustainability into our strategy will support ongoing future success of adidas. Now let me give you a business update and start with the consumer highlight. On the NMD, as one, we launched this new key lifestyle product exclusively on our CONFIRMED app and saw 100% sell-through as well as strong net sales on the entire NMD franchise. On the 4DFWD, we started to scale the 4D franchise with better-than-expected sell-through in NAM and in EMEA. IVY Park Rodeo, which was the last drop of our successful collaboration with Beyonce was a D2C exclusive activation driving high average order values. And when it comes to the Ajax Bob Marley pack, we sold 50,000 jerseys in the first 24 hours and created one of the highest ever consumer engagement for Club Jersey launch on adidas football. And on form, as promised, we've been diversifying the franchise with additional iterations, dedicated marketing and exciting partnerships leading to strong sellout ratios. When it comes to experience, Terrex Mountain Lofts on high means we have opened a flagship store with a unique outdoor retail experience, the first of its kind and more to come. On the CONFIRMED app, we rolled out our CONFIRMED app in Canada as latest editions and continue to offer member-exclusive access to hyped launches and partner interactions. And when it comes to sustainability, our UltraBOOST Uncaged Lap, we have taken the next step towards ending plastic waste using tensile and new bio-based material, and we're also now introducing No-Dye footwear collection in golf. Let me speak now about our strategic enablers in more detail. Credibility. Our groundbreaking innovations and running continue to deliver what matters most, record wins and podiums. In 2021, the adidas Lightstrike Pro technology has enabled our efforts to take home more world records, more wins and more podium positions in the top 50 road races globally than all other athletes combined, including multiple wins at the Marathon Majors in Berlin, London, Boston and New York. Just last weekend, Peres and Albert won the New York Marathon with adidas athletes representing 4 out of the 6 runners on the podium. With Sunday's Victory, Peres is the only woman in history who was won an Olympic gold and one of the world's 6 major marathons, and she did it in 3 months. While I'm excited to see 3-stripes reclaiming credibility in the technical running community, we're also making strong progress in driving commercial success in this category. At the top of the pyramid, the adizero franchise drives exceptional sell-through rates with the latest iterations of adizero pro 2, Prime X and Boston 10 models. And at the same time, we continue to diversify our running across the board, and results speaks for themselves. UltraBOOST is up strong double digits versus 2019, while 4D is growing triple digits. When it comes to experience, we've always iterated that we will become a member first brand, and we're making strong progress in delivering exceptional consumer experiences. Let me provide you with two concrete examples. First, we've introduced a search product finder on both our app and dot com, a guided 60 second digital journey for finding you the right outdoor gear. With a completion rate of north of 80% the experience creates fewer abandoned shopping charts in the carts, higher conversion rates, lower returns and ultimately a happier customer. Second, our latest member week in August provided even more of these exceptional consumer experiences. For the first time ever, we integrated our CONFIRMED app into the sales event driving 1 million unique sign-ups globally. Overall, 24 countries participated this time, and we overachieved our sales and acquisition targets, adding 3 million new members to our digital ecosystem during that one week alone. And when it comes to sustainability, being externally recognized for outstanding sustainability performance is one thing, continuous innovation to stay on top of the games and other. Our partnership with DuPont Biomaterials marks the latest step in pushing boundaries to make 9 out of 10 articles sustainable by 2025. Together with DuPont, we're striving to substitute fossil-based plastic materials with plant-based raw materials, all without compromising our performance proposition. We're also innovating with new business models as we introduce Choose to Give Back in collaboration with ThredUP aimed at helping to extend the life cycle of sportswear apparel and footwear. The program invites consumers to send in used products via at Creators Club in order to be reused or resold. It's currently being piloted in the U.S. and will be rolled out more widely online in stores in 2022. As mentioned before, we are committed to sustainability as part of Own the Game and continue to push boundaries for consumers and for a better future. Turning to strength and weaknesses for the third quarter. Let me be very clear, we saw a strong topline momentum in all markets that operated without major disruption with double-digit growth across EMEA, North America and Latin America. Our focus on D2C is also clearly paying off as we saw double-digit growth in each of these markets. Unfortunately, we are still confronted with -- by severe challenges on both the demand and supply side in many other parts of the world, posting a significant drag on our topline development. Sales decreased in Greater China as a challenging market environment, delays of recovery, while COVID-related lockdowns in Asia Pacific are weighing on demand in the market. On the supply side, shipping and handling delays have been impacted sales in EMEA and in North America. But let me just stop there for a second and just really reiterate the situation. We are seeing a tail of two cities. We are seeing when the world is operating in a somewhat normalized environment, we are growing high single, low double digits and gaining market share, which is very encouraging. In the West, whether it's EMEA, North America or Latin America. But we're also clearly impacted by the East, which is growing negative double digit, which is why we're having the numbers that we have, but the underlying performance in a somewhat normalized market is very satisfying to see. In total, the challenging market environment in Greater China, extensive lockdowns in Asia Pacific as well as industry-wide supply chain constraints reduced revenue around -- by around EUR 600 million in the third quarter. Despite these negative external factors, we were able to grow revenue by 3%. Excluding these external factors, our top line growth would have been in the mid-teens around 14%. Significant higher full price sales were more than offset by negative currency developments and higher supply chain costs, bringing our margins to 50.1%. Our operating margin came in at a strong 11.7% despite a double-digit increase in marketing spend and EUR 60 million of stranded costs related to the Reebok divestiture. Harm will come in more in detail on the major P&L developments. And again, let me emphasize. From a retail perspective, we experienced strong profile products. Top line momentum across all markets with largely undistributed demand. i.e., EMEA, North America and Latin America. In North America, we saw an exceptional growth in D2C, 18% year-over-year and 17% versus '19. We saw an overall increase driven by double-digit growth in lifestyle and football categories while outdoor was up triple digit. In EMEA, we saw strong growth in D2C, again, 11% up or 28% up over '19, an overall increase driven by robust growth in running, football, lifestyle and outdoor also grew at an exceptional rate. And in Greater China, we remain confronted by several challenges. The geopolitical situation with the resurgence of COVID-19 related restrictions as well as natural disasters delayed top line recovery. And again, Harm will give you more details on this. From a channel perspective, our topline development was driven by strong product sell-through in our own retail stores, leading to double-digit increases in EMEA, North America and Latin America. Our e-com revenue grew 8% to almost EUR 1 billion in just one quarter, driven by double-digit growth in EMEA and North America while global full price was up by 15 percentage points. This reflects an increase of 64% compared to the 2019 level, also accounting for the exceptional high growth in the period -- in the prior year period. Our focus on membership and mobile offering continues to elevate the consumer experience. With more than 220 million members globally by the end of the third quarter, we're almost half way to reach our target of 500 million members by 2025. Overall, we're progressing in our D2C-led business transformation to become the member first brand, deeply connecting with the consumers through personalized relevant experiences and brand moments that only adidas can create. From a category perspective, both football and outdoor led our growth in the performance category. Football grew strong double digits as key football franchises such as Predator and the launch of major football club jerseys backed excitement for the game. Outdoor continued an exceptional growth trajectory with footwear led growth while sustainable and technical products launches drive credibility. I will share more exciting news and upcoming product releases across all our strategic growth areas and our innovation outlook. But before I hand over to Harm, let me just reiterate what we said approximately 6 to 9 months ago, we were very optimistic that our performance led growth, our performance product related to sport, i.e., our license product, would have a strong pickup as soon as the stadiums were filling up. And we are seeing that across the globe, whether it's in the U.S. or in Asia or in Europe. When the stadiums are filling up, the fans are buying license gear again. And that is what we're seeing across all our sports in those markets where you can actually enjoy the sport in a stadium. And now I'll hand over to Harm.

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Harm Ohlmeyer
CFO, Labor Director & Member of Executive Board

Thank you, Kasper, and good morning, good afternoon to everyone on the call. Let's start with the financial update, and then I will go a little deeper into the operational update as well to give you some more transparency on what has happened in Q3 and what will happen in the next quarters. But let's start with the overall topline development in Q3 that was negatively impacted by the challenging environment in Greater China, extensive lockdowns in Asia Pacific as well as an industry-wide supply chain constraint, which I will cover in more detail later. When we look at the revenue growth per market segment, we can basically divide our business into two parts. On the positive side, net sales growth was driven by strong momentum across all markets operating without major disruptions: EMEA, North America and Latin America. And as Kasper said, if you combine these three markets, it would stay for double-digit growth. EMEA and North America, both grew 9%, driven by strong double-digit increases in D2C despite the negative impact from significantly longer lead times due to ongoing global shipping and handling delays. And again, without the shipping delays, both markets would have grown in the double-digit territory. Latin America was up 55%, driven by exceptional increases across all channels. Furthermore, all of these markets, just mentioned, recorded operating margin of above 20%. On the negative side, of course, sales in Asia-Pacific declined 8%, reflecting the negative impact on demand from the extensive lockdowns in the region. In Greater China, the geopolitical situation, a resurgence of COVID related lockdowns as well as natural disasters weighed on our top line recovery with a revenue decline of 15%. I will provide more details about this as part of my operational update in a few minutes. Let's now turn to the company P&L. You have heard it, despite severe challenges on both global demand and supply during the quarter, we were able to increase currency-neutral revenues by 3%. As Kasper mentioned before, the challenging market environment in Greater China, COVID-related lockdowns as well as industry-wide supply chain constraints reduced revenue growth by around EUR 600 million in the third quarter. Our gross margin slightly declined by 20 basis points to 50.1% due to an unfavorable FX development and higher sourcing logistics cost. I will deep dive into the gross margin puts and takes in just a second. Other operating expenses increased 7% compared to the third quarter 2020, driven by an increase in marketing spend of 25%, reflecting double-digit increases across all markets. Firstly, we are making sure to leverage major sporting events to drive brand heat. In addition, we are supporting the launch of new products with investments into meaningful and emotional consumer experiences, both digitally and physically. Operating overheads were basically flat at the level of EUR 1.6 billion, also reflecting the continued benefits from strong operating efficiency improvements that we made last year. Please note that we, once again, incurred temporary stranded cost in the amount of around EUR 60 million related to the Reebok divestiture. Our operating profit came in at a level of EUR 672 million, pretty much on the same level as last year, if adjusted for the stranded cost. At 11.7%, our operating margin reached a strong double-digit level despite the challenges we have been facing. And again, with all the stranded costs, it would have been roughly a percentage point higher. I'm now going to take a closer look at the gross margin development in Q3 '21. As last quarter, I'm also providing 2020 impact to put things into perspective. I would like to discuss three main factors in the composition of our gross margin development: First, in terms of pricing impact, the drag from higher discounting in the prior year almost fully recovered this year as we were able to increase our share of full price sales significantly year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter. As you see roughly in the picture, this alone makes 250 basis points. Second, looking at sourcing, we incurred more than EUR 50 million additional cost in the quarter to mitigate the multiple supply chain challenges we are currently faced with. In relative terms, these costs post a headwind of around 1 percentage point to our gross margin in the quarter. And third, in terms of FX impact, Kasper already mentioned that negative FX developments remained a drag on our gross margin. Over the 2-year period, FX resulted in a headwind of more than 250 basis points due to our hedging practices. This effect will only turn into a tailwind going into 2022. Excluding the unfavorable FX impact, our gross margin is already back at the 2019 level, further supported by a positive channel mix due to higher D2C sales in all markets that operate without major disruptions. Now turning to the balance sheet. Inventories were down 23% currency-neutral. This development was, of course, also supported by the exclusion of Reebok inventories, but mainly reflects the factory lockdowns in Vietnam during the quarter, but of course, we continued our efforts to optimize our inventory as well. On a like-for-like basis, our inventories were still down almost 20%. Looking behind the headline numbers makes it even clearer that we have a supply problem. At the end of Q3, almost 30% of our inventories, globally, were goods in transit. That means they're sitting somewhere in a harbor, sitting on a ship or sitting on a truck or a train, but not being delivered to a customer or to a consumer. In markets that are particularly impacted by supply chain constraints, such as North America or EMEA, goods on hand were even as low as 60%. And these numbers will continue to come down until the end of the year, which explains why we are expecting an even larger impact from the supply shortages in the first quarter of 2022. Just finishing up on the balance sheet. Receivables were up 9% currency-neutral year-on-year, mainly driven by higher net sales in EMEA and Latin America, and payables were up 13% currency-neutral year-on-year, mainly reflecting the normalization of payment terms in last year's third quarter. Before I provide you with an operational update on how we are tackling the external challenges on both the supply and demand side, let me quickly summarize the latest status on Reebok. As announced on August 12, we have signed an agreement to sell the Reebok brand to Authentic Brands Group for a total consideration of up to EUR 2.1 billion. The majority of the consideration will be paid in cash at closing of the transaction, which is subject to customary closing conditions and expected to occur in the first quarter 2022. As previously communicated, we intend to share the majority of the cash proceeds to be received upon closing with our shareholders. This will be on top of the EUR 8 billion to EUR 9 billion that we intend to share anyway as part of Own the Game. Kasper will provide you more detail about our shareholder returns later. As a result of the agreement, we recorded a write-up of the previously impaired Reebok trademark in Q3 in an amount of EUR 402 million net of tax. This has been recorded within discontinued operations, and now bear with me to turn to a more detailed operational update. As you know, we are currently operating in an environment that is characterized by severe challenges on both sides of the equation. All industries are being impacted and the sporting goods sector is clearly no exception here. I would like to repeat that in total, the challenging market environment in Greater China, extensive COVID-related lockdowns in Asia Pacific as well as industry-wide supply chain constraints reduced our revenue growth by around EUR 600 million in Q3. In other words, excluding the negative impact from these issues, our growth would have been in the mid-teens during the quarter, more precisely plus 14%. Given the magnitude of these headwinds, I want to spend some time now on each of those to provide you some context and help you understand what we are doing to tackle these challenges. This should also help to give you confidence or we plan to carry forward in '22. Let's start with China, which accounted for roughly half of the top line headwind in Q3. Several factors are having an adverse impact on our business here. As we had told you in August, after hitting the low point in early April, we had recorded a slow, but steady business recovery during Q2 with sequentially improving sellout trends. As a result, own retail and e-com revenues had already turned positive in June. And while the recovery from the geopolitical situation might have been somewhat slower and a bit more bumpy than initially expected, we have continued to observe an overall positive trend in this regard throughout the third quarter. At the same time, however, ever since the second half of July, the business was impacted by regional lockdowns due to the resurgence of COVID in China. In addition, flooding in certain parts of the country further reduced overall retail traffic and contributed to the double-digit sales decline in the quarter. And while things have improved somewhat in September and October, the overall situation continues to be volatile. In this very dynamic environment, there are clearly things that are out of our control. So together with our team on the ground, we are making sure that we are laser focused on the things that we can influence. We have formed a team of senior leaders from both the local market and our global organization assigned to work full steam on improving our business in China. A detailed action plan has been developed and is already in execution. The key levers we have identified are the following: First, strengthen brand heat; second, create more commercial impact; third, improve the range and activation plan; fourth, optimize our store network; and fifth, take excess product out of the market. All of this is in full implementation as we speak, and we are making progress in many areas. Since the end of September, we have been running a localized campaign of our global brand attitude Impossible Is Nothing featuring both global and relevant Chinese athletes, especially for our digital channels in China, we create more of the content on our own in real time on the ground. Therefore, we have opened our own creative studio for this year and have already produced more than 1,000 stories on products and partners. But we're not only developing locally relevant stories, more and more of the product also comes with a local angle. Our local creation center in Shanghai is up and running. And in 2022, the results will become even more visible. Roughly 1/3 of our new products in China will be tailored to the needs of the Chinese consumer. In addition, we are scaling our digital capabilities by accelerating investments into our tech infrastructure and by hiring more than 300 additional digital talents in China. We also expand the marketplace with more than 100 new premium points of sale. In addition to an expansion of our Y-3 and Stella offering, the first Terrex flagship store globally has opened its doors to the public in the heart of our key city Shanghai in October, showcasing our complete outdoor offering from hiking to cross-country skiing is the destination for the growing group of outdoor lovers in this country. Given the challenges in the market, sell-through clearly hasn't been where we expected it to be. Against this background, we have been applying a cautious approach to sell-in. At the same time, we are also repurposing the inventory in China and are reallocating it into other markets where we are short of supply. We have done this with more than 10 million units so far. And while it comes at additional cost, it is still a win-win situation globally. Let me be very clear. Greater China is one of our strategic growth markets, and we remain confident about the long-term opportunity. Key to this will be to show consumers our appreciation and respect to earn their loyalty and complement our global brand strength with a strong local angle and understanding. As we speak, we are showcasing the best of adidas at the China International Import Expo in Shanghai with a focus on sustainability and innovation. And I can tell you, we are experiencing a lot of interest and excitement there. So there's good reason to remain excited about the opportunity in China as outlined in our strategy, but there's clearly also still quite some work ahead of us. Turning to Asia Pacific, where COVID unfortunately, continues to have a very significant impact on people's life. The situation in the region has continued to deteriorate throughout the year with more and more countries introducing increasingly drastic restrictions over the past 6 months, including government-mandated store closures. While at the end of Q2, still more than 80% of our stores were open. We had more than 50% of our shops being either completely closed or operating at a significantly reduced capacity for the most of the third quarter. As a result, traffic across our stores in the region was down more than 30% during the quarter. In addition, the continued lack of travel and tourism within and into the region has been impacting the business, particularly in key cities like Tokyo, Seoul, Hong Kong or Singapore. With the vaccination campaigns also slowly progressing in this part of the world, we have seen things improving somewhat lately. Nevertheless, the recovery will take its time. So thirdly, in addition to the challenging demand environment in Asia-Pacific and China, there are also several aspects impacting the supply side. Firstly, we have been experiencing significant delays in Asia due to the shortages of both vessels and containers. Right now, around 1/3 of our shipments are leaving Asia with significant delays in many cases, by more than two weeks. In addition, we continue to see significant delays at the destinations in the U.S. and Europe, as a result of productivity reductions at the ports, compounded by challenges in inland connections due to railway congestion and labor shortages. As a result, our end-to-end lead times are in many cases currently roughly twice as high than normal, reflecting a delay of more than a month. As mentioned before, these challenges have not only impacted our ability to ship and deliver our products on time, it has also led to a significant increase in logistics costs. Given the higher freight rates, our accelerated use of air freight and additional expenses related to our mitigation efforts in Vietnam, which I will come to in a second, freight costs in 2021 will be almost EUR 200 million higher than initially planned. That's an increase of more than 70% and is clearly leaving its mark on our gross margin. As you know, since July, we have been experiencing an additional challenge within our sourcing network due to the surge in COVID infections in Vietnam. Due to government mandated large-scale factory lockdowns, the vast majority of our supplier capacity in the country has been unavailable since the middle of July. When we last spoke in August, we were expecting the situation in the country to start improving during the second half of the month leading to a largely operational sourcing network by the end of Q3. This scenario would have translated into a loss of production capacity of 8 to 10 weeks. Unfortunately, the situation in the country required restrictions to remain in place for longer, leading to more extensive shutdowns compared to our initial plans. We only saw first factories starting to open at the end of September with the ramp-up of capacity also progressing at a relatively low pace. Nevertheless, thanks to the strong collaboration between the local authorities, our suppliers and ourselves, things have improved significantly over the past couple of weeks. We were able to make great progress in the vaccination of the workforce, with almost 2/3 of workers having received a second shot by now. All of our footwear and apparel factories are operational as of today, with overall capacity at nearly 70% as we speak and expect it to reach 85% by the end of November. We are now anticipating to approach full capacity by year-end compared to our initial assumptions. This reflects a loss of an additional 8 to 10 weeks of production capacity. As a result, we have lost capacity of around 100 million units in total during the second half of 2021. In order to limit the impact from this significant disruption to our sourcing operations, we have intensified our mitigation efforts along 5 key action items. We have secured additional production capacity from more than 30 million pieces in other countries, mainly in China and Indonesia. This clearly shows that size matters in our industry that we can rely on our excellent relationship with our suppliers, which, in many cases, we have been building over decades. Together with our supply partners, we are proactively prioritizing product supply for our strategic growth categories in the upcoming spring/summer '22 season. We will use airfreight for products around key campaigns and launches as they are essential to continue driving brand momentum. This will, however, be largely restricted to high-priced products and using airfreight for more medium and low-priced products doesn't make economic sense given skyrocketing air freight rates. We are redeploying existing market inventory and creating new sales packages, utilizing existing stock. It's all about selling what we have in the markets. And last but not least, we are reducing the depth and the breadth of our discounting activities during the upcoming commercial moments. At the same time, we will increase our prices by an average mid-single-digit rate in 2022. While these measures will help us to significantly reduce the overall impact, we are still expecting the supply shortages to weigh on our top line over the next two quarters. We now expect a drag of around EUR 400 million in Q4 and EUR 600 million in Q1 2022, but no significant impact beyond the first quarter in '22. Now talking about '22, We clearly continue to operate in a very dynamic environment with quite some uncertainties around the issues that have been leaving their mark on our business this year. But they all -- but they have all one thing in common, all of the challenges are transitory in nature. None of them changes our optimism about our long-term growth opportunities. We are a market leader in a highly attractive industry that rewards scale. By focusing on executing our long-term Own the Game strategy while tackling the short-term challenges in a decisive manner, we are convinced that we will be able to leverage these promising market fundamentals and drive strong top and bottom line improvements in the years to come. And we will start in 2022. Taking into account all the puts and takes, we are convinced that the recovery from some of this year's headwinds will provide support for our business next year. We will grow in China, and we expect fewer lockdowns around the world. In addition, our accelerating brand momentum and the strong product lineup will help us to gain market share across the globe and in all of our key markets. Summing all of this up, we are confident that we will grow at least in line with our long-term ambition of between 8% to 10% top line growth next year. But first, we need to bring 2021 home, and Kasper will now explain how we will do this.

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

Thank you very much, Harm. Before we turn to our financial outlook, let me state that we remain focused on driving brand heat by launching new product innovations, executing aspiring campaigns and celebrating major events. As crowds return to major sport events, whether it's a Champions League, the NFL, the NHL or marathons, we bring brand and product stories to life through our athletes and teams. And through our global brand campaign, Impossible Is Nothing, we will ensure that brand awareness and visibility also cuts through to all the everyday athletes and consumers. You've heard me before, and I remain very confident about our brand and product momentum going into 2022. Before I give you the latest detail on our innovation, let me briefly walk you through some exciting product drops in key categories until then. In running, our dedicated Boost Day with new iterations of our most successful UltraBOOST models will drive continued strong growth of our artisan franchise. In football, we just launched our first ever 100% vegan football boots, the Predator Free, merging Elite performance standards with our sustainability leadership ambition. This product is the result of a unique collaboration between Stella McCartney and Paul Pogba. And talking about sustainability, we continue to push boundaries with the introduction of Primaloft and Parley collection in October, combining high-quality insulation materials and recycled Parley ocean plastic. YEEZY continues to drive brand heat and with new drops such as the Boost 350 odd or Beluga reflective mainly available in our CONFIRMED app in North America or Europe. Originals is celebrating the 30th birthday of the iconic equipment franchise by reissuing fan favorite models with both classics and never seen before styles. Across the entire brand, we continue to drive credibility through partnerships and stay tuned for our latest drop in collaboration with Prada as we expand our reach into the Lifestyle segment. Last but not least, we're making great progress in our women's premium offering, introducing the Stella McCartney Earth store collection. Innovation is in our DNA, and we can't wait to provide you with an exclusive and comprehensive preview of all that is yet to come on our upcoming Innovation Day on December 13 and 14. The focus is set on 2022 product highlights across our strategic growth categories, running, football, outdoor training, Originals and sportswear, underlined by inspiring brand moments and story journey. Presenters will include members of the Executive Board, the GMs of all strategic growth categories alongside designers as well as the Senior Vice President for Global Marketing who's going to share with you how we'll further elevate the brand and bring the products to life. The focus of the day will be product, no numbers. So do not expect a trading or financial update, there will be none. By now, you should have received an official invite with registration details, and we are very much looking forward to welcoming you here at our unique World of Sports. Let me remind you that this will be a physical event only to enable the best possible experience for all of you to follow our guests and to ensure the confidentiality of what we're going to show you, be prepared for an exciting product newness and blockbuster brand moments right at the heart of the 3 stripes. And let me now turn to our financial outlook. We are confirming our top and bottom line outlook for 2021 despite several external factors continuing to weigh on industry-wide demand and supply. As a matter of fact, you've just heard Harm that several key assumptions on our business development in Q3 that we provided you back in August 5 did not turn out to be true. We're experiencing more pronounced supply shortages in Q4 than initially expected due to the longer factory lockdowns in Vietnam. The impact will be EUR 400 million in 2021 instead of EUR 250 million. In addition, demand in Greater China continues to be impacted by challenging market environments. And while we still expect revenues to increase by a rate of up to 20% in 2021, we expect a more or less flattish Q4, which would result in revenue growth for the year to come in at the lower end of the range. As a consequence, we also expect both operating margin and net income to reach the lower end of the previous communicated range of between 9.5% and 10% between EUR 1.4 billion and EUR 1.5 billion. At the same time, due to the significantly higher sourcing and logistics costs as well as a less favorable market mix, the gross margin is now expected to increase to a level between 50.5% to 51.0% in 2021.Being able to confirm our outlook despite severe external challenges clearly underlines our confidence in underlying product momentum and brand heat in markets that are operating without major disruption. 2021 definitely turned out to be a different year than what we had originally hoped for in January that pandemic is still impacting many lives around the world and continues to severely disrupt the function of the global economy. Against this background, we, once again, acted quickly and adjusted our game plan. And while some uncertainties remain around the last 2 months, there's no doubt that 2021 will be a successful year for adidas. Revenues are up more than EUR 3 billion or 24% in the first 9 months, back above the precrisis level. And this is despite the headwinds that we've been facing since the beginning of the year, which has been weighing on our top line with more than EUR 1 billion so far. Our operating margin also recovered to strong double digits and net income is more than EUR 1 billion above last year's level, both in spite of significant higher supply chain costs and around EUR 180 million of stranded costs related to the Reebok divestiture. We are becoming a much more cash-generated business and our shareholders are benefiting from this. By the end of the year, we will have returned EUR 1.6 billion to shareholders through a combination of dividends and share buybacks. Since October 18, we've already bought back shares worth more than EUR 170 million within the second tranche of our latest share buyback program. This is part of our plan to share between EUR 8 billion and EUR 9 billion with our shareholders through dividends and buybacks during the 5-year cycle of Own the Game. On top, as you've heard from Harm, we intend to share the majority of the cash proceeds from Reebok sales with our shareholders after the closing of the transaction, which is planned for the first quarter of 2022. So to sum it up, we're not only performing well in a challenging environment in Q3, we clearly are well on track to deliver a successful first year of our new strategic cycle. And let me remind you, we have just confirmed our elevated full year top line outlook despite now expecting more than EUR 1.5 billion of top line headwinds in which -- in total, which had not been reflected in our original guidance back in January or March. We're also navigating through the worldwide supply chain constraints and look forward to 2022, a year where we'll grow at least in line with our long-term growth ambition of 8% to 10%, driven by our top line momentum, our product pipeline and the recovery from some of this year's headwinds. And with this, I'd like to thank you for listening in. And Harm and I now look forward to taking your questions. Thank you very much.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] First question is from the line of Graham Renwick from Berenberg.

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Graham Ian Renwick
Analyst

Two questions. Just firstly, on China. On the last call, you said China sales in June were already back to 2019 levels. If we were to exclude the impact of the lockdowns in Q3, do you think you would have seen a continued progressive improvement in China from that June level? Or maybe put another way, how are you performing in regions of China that weren't under lockdown? Did you continue to see a sales recovery back above 2019 levels? Just trying to get a sense of the underlying trend there? And second, on fiscal '22 guidance, you very helpfully provided us with a bridge for revenue growth. Thanks for that. I was just wondering how we should be thinking about the puts and takes for margins next year it looks like there's several margin tailwinds building for you with higher DTC FX turning to tailwinds. You've got the recovery in China and some of those Reebok costs are also going to roll off. And you did mention that you'd be raising prices as well, which should help mitigate some of that cost inflation. So alongside the 8% to 10% revenue growth, would it be reasonable for us to think that adidas can return to, say, 2019 margin levels in '22?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

What we're seeing in China is we are seeing a light deceleration. So basically in the regions that where we don't have -- that we're seeing a fairly healthy situation, and we are seeing, I would say, lightning of the political tension of the BCI situation in China. And on the '22 guidance, Harm?

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Harm Ohlmeyer
CFO, Labor Director & Member of Executive Board

Yes, Graham, of course, you're interested in what our guidance is in '22 and how it relates to 2019, it's too early to give you a guidance. We will do that in March. But rest assured, everything that we are seeing right now, including the price increases that we planned for next year, and what we're seeing and how we're going to expand our D2C business, again, the gross margin will definitely be up to our 2021 levels. And of course, we see growth that we are planning next year where we say it's at least 8% to 10% growth that we have on average now on the game plan. We clearly want to leverage that to the bottom line, whether that is exactly comparable to '19 already, again, this is what you will see in March. But very clearly, you can leave today with confidence that the gross margin will be better than '21 and the operating margin will be expanded over '21.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Warwick Okines from Exane BNP Paribas.

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Alexander Richard Edward Okines
Research Analyst

So my two are, firstly, how much would you say that the external conditions have delayed you putting newness in front of the customer or if at all? I mean, you talked before about quadrupling form in H2. I'm just wondering whether you feel like the improvements to your product roster and brand heat are being a bit disrupted or whether all of the supply constraints have really been in more mid-priced products? And then secondly, I've got a question on inventory. I think you said that about 30% of your inventory is goods in transit, which doesn't seem like a particularly unusual number. I think it was 28% in 2019 or so. So perhaps I missed that, but maybe you could explain because presumably, transit is unusually high at the moment.

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

So I'll take the first question, and Harm will take the second. If you look upon and I start crudely, the overall impact on what we're seeing in Asia has been more volume based and newness based. So we have not seen a disruption to the creation of new products. And if you take the form as a shoe, what we are seeing, we are seeing a slight delay, like we're seeing a slight delay of the introduction of the NMD S1. But the newness is not really -- the innovation has not been impacted. It is more the speed of introduction. And that's why we're quite confident that we'll continue to look upon the current ramp-up of form, we are very comfortable with where we are. Of course, we like to have a more products into the market. But I think that the more important part is that we have created the product. The innovation is coming through the pipeline. And you'll see that in the fourth quarter. I assume you're going to be here next month, and you're going to see it in the first and the second quarter, where, of course, you're going to have a different ramp. So it's more delay, and it's more volume related than it's newness related. But of course, if you don't have the volume, then you might have the newness, but you don't get the revenue.

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Harm Ohlmeyer
CFO, Labor Director & Member of Executive Board

Yes. And what we got on the inventory situation, you're absolutely right, our goods in transit is normally between 25% and 28%. But you've got to look at the 30%. First, it's not the same in every market. In some markets, it's more like 40%, especially when it comes to North America and EMEA. And then secondly, this is 30% without having a production in Vietnam, which would have led to more goods in transit as well being on ships or whatsoever. So that's why the 30% is end of Q3, and this number will increase significantly in the fourth quarter, and that's where the supply challenges come in. Again, we are not worried about the gift under the Christmas tree. There will still be some choices, but we got to buy early on this. So don't wait for December.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Elena Mariani from Morgan Stanley.

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Elena Mariani
Executive Director of Luxury Goods and Brands

Kasper and Harm, thanks for the very comprehensive presentation. I actually have one broader question. So if we take the average performance of your largest global peers, they were able to grow sales up double-digit versus 2019, both year-to-date and in Q3, despite facing the exact same supply chain challenges, COVID restrictions in Asia and also a challenging market environment in China. So what is holding you back in your opinion? What explains this gap, considering the fact that you have restarted investing in marketing and have really pushed the button further on product innovation?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

So thank you for asking an easy question. I think if you were to -- instead of trying to go through the nitty gritty details, I think there's a couple of things so let me try to outline those. One is, that we have relatively higher share in Asia than most of our competitors, which means it has a high impact. Of course, you'll see that we have a high footwear share also, which is where it's coming from. And we were more impacted, particularly in the beginning of the year, through the closed out of sports because we are more dependent on selling our licensed products. If you were to look upon those, these would be probably the three biggest buckets that we have. If you look upon the Western world, we actually have a lesser disconnect to our peers at this stage in the Western world than we have in Asia. And of course, we're working very hard and diligent on bringing new products into the market and investing heavily in marketing to make certain that we get back and have similar growth rates to that of our competitors.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Zuzanna Pusz from UBS.

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Zuzanna Pusz
Head of European Luxury Equity Research

So my first question is on China. When we look at your performance in China on a 2-year stack, you've been basically seen only a small deceleration sequentially, especially if we compare to some of your peers. So now given that majority of the business, I think, in China is still wholesale driven, given the franchise model. Would you be able to comment if you've actually seen a similar level of deceleration if we look at the sellout or maybe there was some kind of unusual activity related to kind of orders and things like that. Just to get an idea of whether this was actually the underlying trend in the market, which would have suggested that actually you didn't see such a big deceleration as perhaps maybe some other companies have seen in the market? And the second question is, I guess, maybe more specifically on Q4 outlook. I mean you've provided some very useful information in the presentation. But given that your outlook costs were an increase of up to 20%, I guess sort of the lower end of that could be read in a different way. And I guess if I just take the roughly 14% underlying growth, you suggest you saw in Q3 if we excluded the headwind. And if I apply it to Q4 and remove the headwind, which you provided us was related to Vietnam, that would probably get me to roughly mid-single-digit growth on FX-neutral basis in Q4. So I'm just wondering if you would be able to comment on that. I understand there's a lot of uncertainty, but just to get an idea of what kind of growth rate given the current visibility you would expect in Q4?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

Yes. Thanks, Zuzanna. First on Q4. Of course, Q4 is not just Vietnam. There are other factors as well. And that's why we're clearly saying we are talking more about a flattish Q4 and then we can do the calculation. So the lower end of -- up to 20% would mean then 17% to 18%, if you look at a flattish Q4. But again, this is not just Vietnam related. It's a continuation of what we're seeing in China right now as well. On the other question, on the 2-year stack in China. You're absolutely right with the deceleration trend. And there's nothing special in the franchise channel. I mean that's a trend in the overall market that we are seeing. It's not specific to the franchise channel or to other channels. So it's the overall trend that we're seeing.

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Zuzanna Pusz
Head of European Luxury Equity Research

And just to sort of clarify a follow-up on China. So given that there was quite a lot of intra-quarter volatility, would you say that there was a similar sort of exit rate from China in Q3? Or that there wasn't any further deceleration? Just to get an idea of also what we should think of Q4 in China.

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

It's steadily improving, but slowly improving. That's similar. I don't want to compare Q3 with Q2 exit or whatsoever. It's too volatile as a market, but that's all we're seeing. It's a steady improving trend. But again, not to the satisfaction that we would have liked to see or that we had planned originally.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Jurgen Kolb with Kepler Cheuvreux.

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Jurgen Kolb
Analyst

Two questions from my side. On Page 26, you detailed your action plan for China. I was wondering how much of those plans are just plans or initiatives that are here in the short term will be changed? Or will they extend it, i.e., you said you have more than 100 marketplace expansion with new Terrex and Y-3 point of sales, is that a new program that you're planning to open more of these specific Terrex and Y-3 and Stella stores in China? And then secondly, it also seems as if you're experiencing a lower promotional environment. I was wondering if you could comment on how you see the current environment on a market-by-market basis? And how long do you think these lower promotional environment will last from your observations?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

So let me take the first one. What we are seeing is in the plan we put in place is, of course, a set of actions now, and this is a dynamic way of looking upon. So we're not going to say when we do this and we are over. What you can see is, as an example from a store standpoint, by introducing 100 new Terrex stores and Y-3 stores and Stella points, we are entering into higher price points. And that is, of course, what -- a key part of the strategy is, Terrex goes back to outdoor. Y-3 and Stella goes back to women and goes back to high-end leisure. So what you'll continue to see is pending where they are an expansion of what we're doing, but of course, also continued, I would say, review of what are the appropriate measures to make sure that we turn China around in a sustainable way. So we're giving you an insight to what we are doing. But I think that the Chinese market is such a fast evolving market that will continue to have a game plan on what to do. But here are some of the measures that we believe are the right ones now. And we've spoken about that also in previous meetings with you what we're doing. So it's an evolution. As I said, of course, we'll scale up if we believe that it makes sense to scale up, handing over to Harm.

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Harm Ohlmeyer
CFO, Labor Director & Member of Executive Board

Yes, Jurgen on the promotional environment, you've got to differentiate the East from the West. And of course, there is a promotional environment in China as our plans or other brand plans didn't come to fruition. So there's clearly this. Too much inventory in the market. That's why we also mentioned that we already moved 10 million units, which is significant for the market to other markets that are in the demand. So yes, China, I would say, it's too promotional, given the inventory that were in the market. It's different than an AP again. But on the flip side, you see Latin America is the lowest inventory ever and you see it in the operating profit as well in Latin America, it's the highest ever. The same in North America, again, north of 20%, and that gives us confidence also in the future profitability of the company now being consistently in North America above 20%, and it's the healthiest environment that we have seen for many, many years, the same in EMEA as well. So it's really a two story of the East and the West, very healthy environment in the West. And yes, we've got to work through some of the geopolitical challenges in China, but also that we will work through it.

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

Jurgen, let me just reiterate what Harm said about North America. About 3 years ago, we had an operating margin in North America of 6%. So right now, if you could criticize us anything in North America is that our full price sales force has gone up in every single channel across the U.S., and that's why you're seeing that. So you can almost say that the margin is hindering our top line. We are getting the right balance. And that's why the important part was we have "more equal distribution of revenue and margin by country." But definitely, you're seeing a very, very strong improvement in the U.S. from mid-single digits to now, a margin of 20% at the highest sell-through that we -- the highest priced sales that we've had for many, many years.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Cedric Lecasble from Stifel.

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Cedric Lecasble
Research Analyst

I have two also. So the first one is on China. Just to know what you can do and not do in terms of conducting marketing operations, organizing events using ambassadors. You had some constraints over the past months because of what happened in March. Where do you stand today? And are you on par with what local competitors can do? That's question number one. And the second one on your forecast of easing problems from Q2, at least not material hit on your top line in Q2. How do you see the U.S. situation, the bottlenecks, the port congestion, also delays in the U.S. going into next year -- into '22. Do you think from Q2, do you see any easing of these issues? Or do you still have some negative assumptions for this in your forecast in '22?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

So Cedric, let me try to answer the China question in the most appropriate way. As you know that most Western brands didn't -- lost their brand ambassadors in the end of the first quarter, beginning of the second quarter. We are seeing a somewhat normalization, but at a very slow rate. So at the recent event, a trade event in Shanghai that took place last week and Harm showed a picture of it, we had a very well-known volleyball female sports star on the podium. So we are seeing a normalization, but at a very slow rate, and there's no doubt that right now, there is a difference in the use of athletes and entertainers if it were local versus nonlocal companies. And that, of course, is, I would say, having a negative impact in our capability to drive traffic to our websites and to our stores. So we are seeing slightly recovery, but there is a substantial difference between local and nonlocal companies in China. I think that will be the most appropriate way of answering that question.

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Harm Ohlmeyer
CFO, Labor Director & Member of Executive Board

And Cedric, hope I got your question right on the port in the U.S. So clearly, we still have a lot of challenges in the inbound in the port, but also on the railway and shortage of labor. And we believe this is not going away by the end of the year. So all intelligence that we have, especially in the U.S., where it's more pronounced than in Europe, it will definitely take until the summer of '22, where we have impact. And in Europe, I mean, it's just longer lead times to get into Europe and we just need to plan for it differently and produce a product earlier to have longer lead time. But rest assured that whatever you see in the port, this is a smaller issue than what we're dealing with in Vietnam right now. And whatever the port situation will be next year, it's already baked into our -- I wouldn't call it a guidance, but the direction that we're going with 8% to 10% top line growth at least next year. So that's factored in there already. So it's not good, but we learn to deal with it.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Thomas Chauvet from Citi.

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Thomas Vincent Chauvet
Research Analyst

My first question on pricing. I understand you're not going to provide detailed numbers behind your upcoming pricing increases, but how much do you think will come from pure pricing to offset input cost inflation and how much from mix as you're elevating the brand towards more premium lifestyle offering, collaboration, limited edition products?Secondly, on your sourcing strategy. I was wondering whether the disruption caused by COVID over the past year, but of course, also what happened in some markets like Vietnam in the last few months may change the way you think about geographic origin outsourcing in the future. If we look at the split of sourcing by countries and the various product categories, would it make sense, economically, industrial to rebalance part of the footwear and apparel sourcing from Southeast Asia to Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia and China to South Asia and Western Asia, for instance, Pakistan or Turkey, where you have significant production for accessories and gear, but rarely for footwear and apparel. So I was just wondering. And then just a follow-up on the goods in transit, sorry. So you said 30% of the inventories at the end of the quarter were goods in transit, more delays expected in the fourth quarter. Have these unusual delivery terms changed the way you recognize revenue with your wholesale partner? Is there any accounting impact in Q3 and Q4 to be aware of? Or it's just irrelevant because these are intracompany flows?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

So I will take the part of our manufacturing strategy, to which extent are we revisiting that. We actually have a quite diversified portfolio. If you look upon it from a footwear standpoint, we are spread into three countries with the fourth delivering a bit on the apparel. It is a less consolidated industry. And thereby, frankly, you can't even do it in this country. So that's why we spread out more. Footwear is a dedicated competence that is not so easy to find. And that's why it would make very little sense to try to diversify even more because you also have to go back and say where is the original origin of the materials. So you might be able to spread the factories in theory, but if the vast majority of the materials come from less countries, then you're going to have the same impact. So I think while it's interesting to look upon, I think we also need to understand that right now, what we've experienced in the last 18 months have been situations that has never occurred before. And we have to assume that vaccination will bring the world back to somewhat of a normal position. If not, we'll continue to have a completely disrupted world moving forward that will have profound negative impact across all economies and all industries. So actually, we believe that with the diversification we've done in the last couple of years, we have actually mitigated a lot of it and moving footwear out of the three main countries. It's going to be extremely difficult task and will not resolve the task when it comes to the diversification of the origin of the materials. So I'll then hand over to Harm.

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Harm Ohlmeyer
CFO, Labor Director & Member of Executive Board

Yes, Thomas. First on the price increases. First and foremost, it will be more significant on pretty much the same product where we increased the prices. So you can call it inflation as well, but that's what we're going to do. And you will see a more pronounced increase in the fall winter '22 season versus spring summer '22 season because a lot of products have been sold in already. So there will be some on the speed creation time line that will be impacted by higher prices. If you have D2C exclusive, where we take advantage of that. But some of the products or many of the products we have sold in for spring summer '22 already. So it will be more pronounced to the second half when it comes to the main or same product pricing. At the same time, with the new brand architecture that we're rolling out next year with performance, sportswear and also Originals, we definitely take advantage of premiumizing Originals much more than today, not just for collabs but also for the product itself, and that's where we go further in the Lifestyle segment and with the premium pricing that will be throughout the year with new products coming in. Secondly, you asked about the goods in transit, has nothing to do from an accounting point of view. So we will account for the inventories and the goods and trends in the balance sheet, has nothing to do from a revenue recognition point of view. The only impact on revenues is if the product is on a ship or in a harbor and it's being stuck there is not available to ship to an account or sell to an end consumer. That's why we have the impact to the lateness. But from an accounting point of view, there's absolutely no impact.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Omar Saad from Evercore ISI.

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Omar Regis Saad

My first one is on your comments around the supply chain issues. I think in the market, people are pretty concerned that it's going to drag well into '22. It sounds like you guys are pretty confident that it's not going to persist beyond the first quarter. Maybe you could talk about some of the factors giving you confidence that things should realign by that time frame? And then also another follow-up on China, sorry. I know you mentioned that you saw some deceleration in non-COVID regions, but it would be helpful to know how much of the China slowdown or shortfall, if you will, is related to COVID, COVID restrictions, travel restrictions versus other, whether it's competitive issues, geopolitical issues, consumer sentiment, real estate concerns, stuff like that?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

So Omar, when we look upon the factory opening, we look at how many factories are opened, which are factual, how many people are being vaccinated within the factory? How many had first vaccination? How many had second vaccination and how many workers are back? And that is the statistical data we're looking upon. And that's the only thing we can do. There's nothing else. So we can be worried and onward. We're taking a very statistical and very fact-driven approach in saying, this is the level of workers in the factories. This is a level of output. This is a level of vaccination. This is the level of vaccines they have at hand. And based on that, we're getting their projections. And I think that is the only thing we can do, so we're not passing any judgment on what we're taking and just simply looking upon a pure number standpoint, and then fast forwarding that. Does that mean that there is a guarantee you're not going to have a corona infection in Country B? No, you don't know that and we don't know that, but we can only do it with the best of capability with the data we have at hand and the data we have at hand, we showed very clearly to you in this presentation today.

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Harm Ohlmeyer
CFO, Labor Director & Member of Executive Board

On China, it's really difficult to go through the details of what the impact is of what. But rest assured, the geopolitical tension is easing. And it just remains a volatile environment with the natural disasters, with COVID outbreaks here and there and different restrictions in the one or the other districts. But now decomposing a district, but district is difficult. But again, it's improving every week and every month, and that's why we remain confident going back to a growth path and market share gains going into '22.

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Sebastian Steffen
Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Stuart, we have time for two more questions, please.

Operator

Next question is from the line of James Grzinic from Jefferies International.

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James Robert Grzinic
Equity Analyst

Yes. I just had a quick follow-up actually on China. Kasper, you talked to the BCI tailwinds in your view headwinds rather becoming less of an issue recently and that's despite you not really being able to talk to the brand like others in the market. Can you perhaps -- what gives you that confidence? What sort of KPIs are you thinking when you get that feeling in terms of that backdrop improving for you and Western brands?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

I'm looking for sell-through and traffic. That's what we're looking upon and that's the only way we can judge it.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Anne-Laure Bismuth from HSBC.

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Anne-Laure Bismuth

So I have two. The first one is still on China. So some competitors are thinking about reinvesting around the winter Olympics. Is this the right window? Or do you seem to further reinvest in China? And my second question is about the percentage of sales at full price. Are you where you want to be?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

So when it comes to other and investing into athletes, I spoke about what we're doing. So we will continue to increase our investment into our fleets to make certain that we actually support the Chinese governmental plan, we're engaging people in sport. The Olympics is one, but I think what is even more exciting is the growth and investment that we're seeing into outdoor where we continue to open new stores and of course with new athletes. The second part, I didn't get -- that was a question about full price, I simply didn't hear it.

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Anne-Laure Bismuth

Are you where you want to be on full price sales?

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

I think that -- are you speaking about which market? Because it's a bit like the global weather forecast then.

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Anne-Laure Bismuth

No. But globally, the percentage of sales at full price, are you where you want to be just...

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Kasper Bo Rorsted
CEO & Member of Executive Board

So I think if you go back and say in the West, it's almost too high and the East is too low. You can look upon the margin where we are. The margin is pretty much on a company level where we need to be, but we have very different situations. And if you look upon and say, in China, of course, you have inventory surplus so that you will have probably less sales at full price. In the West, we are going to have shortages in the products, and you're going to have "almost too high of a full price sell-through." Overall, what we have is we are more or less in line with where we need to be. And we're very clear on what we guided on the margin for this year, but we're also very clear on the margin guidance for 2025 is 12% to 14%. We were at 11% in '19. So we're confident that we can get that mix right, also moving forward. But we've got to have somewhat of a stabilized environment. So we don't have two markets that operate in very different scenarios where one is growing double digit and one is declining double digit. With this, I think I'll hand over to Sebastian, who will close the session.

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Sebastian Steffen
Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Thanks very much, Kasper. Thanks very much, Harm. And also thanks very much, Stuart. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our Q3 results conference call. If you have any further questions, and I'm sure there's going to be a few be it today or over the next couple of weeks, feel free to reach out to any member of the IR team or myself obviously -- actually, Kasper, Harm, and I are very much looking forward to meeting many of you during our upcoming roadshow to London, New York, Boston, Frankfurt over the next couple of weeks. Believe it or not, we cannot wait to get stuck in New York traffic again. This is not the only thing that we're actually looking forward to. As you've heard from Kasper, our Innovation Day is just around the corner, and we are very excited to hopefully be able to welcome many of you here at our unique world of sports in 5 weeks' time. And with that, thanks very much for your participation. Have a good remainder of the day. All the best. Bye-bye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded, and you may disconnect your telephone. Thank you for joining, and have a pleasant day. Goodbye.