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2021-Q3

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Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the mdf commerce Third Quarter 2021 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this call is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to our host, Luc Filiatreault, President and CEO for mdf commerce. Thank you. You may begin.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

[Foreign Language] So just as a reminder, mdf commerce is a developer and operator of digital commerce platforms. Our platforms facilitate billions of dollars of transactions per year, of digital commerce for well over 300,000 end user companies, mostly in North America. We have made great progress in transforming mdf commerce into a high-growth SaaS digital commerce company with the potential to dominate key market segments. As part of our transformation, we are adjusting our leadership team to align to our 5-year transformation plan, and we are continuing to invest in people and processes along the way. With that in mind, I wanted to take a moment to welcome Deborah Dumoulin as our new Chief Financial Officer. Deborah was VP Finance and Financial Reporting at Fiera Capital Corporation. And prior to that, she was a partner with PwC. Deborah brings very strong capabilities and experience to the role that will help us to manage our accelerating scale over the next few years. Additionally, as we announced last week, we have also added Nicolas Vanasse as Chief Legal Officer to help us facilitate our planned mergers and acquisition strategies. Nicolas brings over 20 years of experience in various Chief Legal and Corpdev roles in high-growth companies such as Lumenpulse and E-data Structures (sic) [ eStruxture Data Centers ]. [Foreign Language] As we have noted in our previous conference calls, we are investing in 2 core growth platforms of our business, because we believe that there are large opportunities to gain market share in both. To successfully compete, we are investing to scale our sales and marketing capabilities to align with our peers, who typically allocate approximately between 30% and 40% of their revenue to this function, which is critical to further accelerate growth. As we commenced our transformation about 15 months ago, our -- we had less than 10% of our resources dedicated to sales and marketing. I am pleased to report that since then, we've doubled our sales and marketing team, and our intent is to continue to invest in our capacity to capture market share. The first growth platform that I want to discuss is Unified Commerce. It represents approximately 44% of our third quarter revenue base. This platform offers end-to-end commerce, including supply chain, for thousands of midsized and large enterprises -- large enterprise customers globally. As announced in January, during the third quarter we successfully deployed a significant grocery e-commerce project for over 200 stores. To put that undertaking into perspective, we implemented one of our largest grocery projects in less than 3 months, all done in the U.K. and in Ireland during the pandemic, and entirely virtually. We never saw anybody physically from our customers. Due to the intensive deployment concentration associated with this and many other concurrent projects, our gross margins were temporarily compressed. Also, because of the increased professional services billing, which is not recurring, total revenue in Unified Commerce increased faster than monthly recurring revenue ramped. As a result, recurring revenue as a percentage of total revenue declined. This is temporary, and we're confident that these big deployments will result in faster growth of future recurring revenues. To give you some context regarding the performance of the Unified Commerce platform, revenue grew by 54% compared to last year, which is really solid. However, if we isolate the performance of our 2 e-commerce solutions, Orckestra and K-eCommerce, their combined revenue growth was actually 126% year-over-year. This growth is really exciting, and this doesn't include revenue associated with our recent deployment, which will be recognized in future quarters. So we are confident about future growth in these platforms. This is great progress, but we're not satisfied. We are investing in sales capabilities and channel development to expand our pipeline. We are investing in deploying -- in deployment technology and partnerships to more efficiently convert our pipeline. We would like investors to know that we're not sitting on our laurels. Instead, we're leveraging our recent successes to further exploit general upturn in demand for online commerce. The second growth platform that I want to highlight is Strategic Sourcing. This procurement and tendering platform accounts for approximately 39% of our total third quarter revenue. Over 3,500 government agencies and large enterprise buyers rely on our Strategic Sourcing platform to procure and tender from a North America-wide network of over 300,000 suppliers. These totals include network gained from the acquisition of Vendor Registry during the quarter. Vendor Registry extended our reach to 10 more states in the U.S., increased our supplier networks by 70,000 and added 400 procuring entities. Our primary strategy for this platform is to consolidate a fragmented market in North America by acquiring assets similar to Vendor Registry to improve our geographic reach, expand the platform and deliver pricing power by cross-selling and upselling more services to the network. We are executing on this as we had announced prior. Finally, our emarketplaces platform enables everything from wholesale diamond purchasing to job searching. Collectively, these online marketplaces account for approximately 17% of total revenue. Due to the growth rate of Unified Commerce and Strat Sourcing, emarketplaces' revenue will be declining as a portion of total mdf commerce revenues over time. I'd like to provide a high-level review of our performance in Q3 2021. Overall, we are pleased with our performance in the quarter. Total revenue, $21.4 million was 18.4% higher than the $18.1 million reported in Q3 2020. Our Q3 recurring revenue grew by 9% to $16 million compared to $14.7 million for the same period last year. Recurring revenue equates to approximately 75% of mdf commerce's total revenue of $21.4 million for Q3 fiscal 2021, generally in line with the 81% reported in Q3 2020. With the Strategic Sourcing platform recurring revenue, representing 92% of total revenue, which we believe is close to the maximum recurring revenue available to that line of business. And now I will turn the call over to Deborah Dumoulin, our new CFO, to discuss our Q3 fiscal 2021 financial results in more detail. So welcome, Deborah, to your first earnings call with mdf.

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Deborah Dumoulin
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Luc, and good morning, everyone. [Foreign Language] Here are the highlights of the third quarter fiscal 2021 results. Total revenue was $21.4 million, which is up 18.4% from the $18.1 million reported in Q3 2020. Total monthly recurring revenue, which we'll refer to sometimes in this call as MRR, was 76% of total revenue at $16 million. This percentage is consistently -- is consistent sequential in comparison to the second quarter of fiscal 2021. When compared to the third quarter of the previous year, total MRR increased by 9% from $14.2 million. In comparison to last year, MRR as a percentage of total revenue dropped by 5 percentage points from 81%. As Luc pointed out earlier in this call, this shift was mainly caused by an increase in professional services billing associated with large deployments during the quarter. Now I'd like to outline MRR for each of our main platforms. For the Strategic Sourcing platform, recurring revenue was 92% of total revenue, which was stable on both a sequential and year-over-year basis. Unified Commerce recurring revenue was 57% as a percentage of total revenue, down 1% sequentially and 6% in comparison to last year. Looking at actual dollars of MRR revenue, Unified Commerce MRR for the quarter was $5.4 million compared to $4.4 million reported in the previous year quarter. That's an increase of 23%. Strategic Sourcing MRR was $7.6 million compared to $7.1 million reported in the third quarter of last year, a 7% increase. To wrap up the MRR discussion, I want to point out that based on MRR existing at Q3, the implied annual recurring run rate for mdf's MRR is approximately $65 million. Now I'll cover our total revenue contribution by each of our platforms. The united -- the Unified Commerce platform, which includes supply chain management, generated $9.4 million of revenue, which is a 54% increase over the $6.1 million reported last year. It's also a 4.1% sequential increase over Q2 of 2021. I'd like to highlight that our e-commerce solutions, particularly Orckestra and K-eCommerce, produced year-over-year growth of 126% compared to the previous year. I should, however, note that we only recognized 6 weeks of K-eCommerce revenue during the third quarter of last year, as it was an acquisition. The Strategic Sourcing platform generated $8.3 million of revenue for the quarter, a 9.2% increase over the $7.6 million reported for the previous quarter and a 2.9% growth sequentially. Turning to emarketplace platform, it contributed $3.7 million of revenue or a 13.9% decrease from a $4.3 million reported in Q3 of the previous year and stable compared to Q2 2021. As a percentage of total revenues, emarketplace revenue declined to 17.3% in Q3 2021 in comparison to a 23.8% share reported in Q3 of 2020. As revenue scales in Strategic Sourcing and Unified Commerce, emarketplaces will continue to become less impactful on performance during the future reporting periods. Turning now to gross margin, operating loss, adjusted EBITDA and net profit or loss. Total gross margin was 62.7% compared to 70.4% reported in Q3 2020 and 66.7% for Q2 2021. As mentioned earlier, the decline in gross margin percentage is associated with the service mix and lower margin professional services revenue that we recognized on major deployment contracts that we initiated during the quarter. We anticipate that gross margins will remain compressed temporarily until the ongoing deployments in e-commerce are delivered. Operating loss for the quarter was $2.7 million in comparison to an operating loss of $1.8 million in Q3 2020 and a $0.1 million operating loss in Q2 2021. The decline in operating profit flows directly from the professional services expenses, restructuring costs and transaction costs associated with the acquisition of Vendor Registry. Total adjusted EBITDA loss reported for the quarter was $0.1 million compared to a positive adjusted EBITDA of $0.2 million reported in Q3 2020. Although there were investments in sales and marketing and R&D expenses during the quarter, decline in adjusted EBITDA is primarily due to 2 items: first, increased professional services expenses required to support deployments of multiple contracts; and second, restructuring costs, acquisition-related transaction costs totaling approximately $1.1 million related also to the acquisition of Vendor Registry and some management changes that occurred in the quarter. I'd like to note that mdf commerce's definition of adjusted EBITDA does not make adjustments for acquisition-related costs and transaction costs. Net loss for Q3 2021 was at $2.9 million or a $0.14 loss per share, both basic and diluted, compared to a net loss of $1.1 million or $0.13 loss per share, which was recorded in Q3 of 2020. Finally, turning to year-end-to-date results. Total revenue for the first 9 months of fiscal 2021 was $62.9 million (sic) [ $62.7 million ], representing an 11% increase over $56.5 million reported last year over the same period. The 9-month year-to-date revenue reported for fiscal 2021 includes a disposed asset that represented $2.2 million of recognized revenue. If we adjust the revenue for this disposal, year-to-date revenue growth would calculate at 15.5%. Year-to-date net loss was $4.7 million or $0.26 loss per share, both basic and diluted, compared to net profit of $1.1 million or $0.07 per share, both basic and diluted, in the previous period. For the first 9 months of fiscal 2021, adjusted EBITDA was $4 million compared to $8 million reported for the first 9 months of 2020. The decline in adjusted EBITDA is attributed to professional services associated with the acceleration of our deployments, along with investments in sales, marketing and R&D. And as I noted earlier, this also includes restructuring and transaction costs that are not adjusted in our definition of adjusted EBITDA. Finally, I'd like to review some progress we made during the quarter on strengthening our balance sheet, and that helps us to execute our strategic plan going forward and positions us favorably to take advantage of the opportunities ahead. During Q3, we executed a $50 million senior secured credit agreement based on recurring revenue and repaid the full amount of our debt under a previous credit agreement. We also closed a bought deal public offering with net proceeds of $47.8 million, and the company had $38.8 million in cash and cash equivalents on its balance sheet at December 2021 -- sorry, 2020. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Luc.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

[Foreign Language] Based on our growing sales pipeline, management believes that much of the shift in preference towards digital commerce caused by the COVID-19 pandemic will be permanent. This is reflected in the growth trajectory that we reported this quarter, and we plan to exploit the market trends to accelerate future growth of recurring revenue for the 2 core platforms of Unified Commerce and Strategic Sourcing. As mentioned at the beginning of the call, we are preparing for that with investments in sales and channel development to accelerate our pipeline growth and implementation capabilities. Although we consider professional services revenue to be a lead indicator of future growth in recurring revenue, we also recognize that it could be a drag on our ability to effectively deploy contracts as we convert our growing pipeline. As a result, we are actively pursuing partnerships to help us deploy contracts. We've recently announced partnership agreements with third parties including KPMG, Valtech, Logic, Enavate, that will help us to scale deployment capabilities while also positively impacting the mix of recurring and nonrecurring revenue. Our objective is to remove scaling barriers and also to ultimately expand our gross margin in the Unified Commerce platform. Before I wrap up, I wanted to comment again on how pleased we are to welcome Mr. Clément Gignac to our Board of Directors. He is recognized internationally as an expert in the fields of economics and finance and currently holds the position of Senior Vice President, Investments; and Chief Economist at the Industrial Alliance Financial Group. He is a former Minister for Economic Development and Minister of Natural Resources for the Québec government. We are confident that he will bring enormous value to our Board, our leadership team and the company as we accelerate scale and become more global. And finally, I would like to leave you with 2 key takeaways that I believe summarize our transformation journey to date. First, we've entered the first leg of our aggressive growth strategy you can begin to see in this quarter's revenue performance. However, I want to stress that we are just starting. We are investing now to be able to build a sales pipeline multiple times larger than that. We will continue to invest in sales and marketing resources to arm mdf commerce to effectively compete for market share in multiple verticals, especially in the Unified Commerce platform. We are evolving our foundation in our partnerships in order to increase our capabilities both in number and size of projects, allowing us to better convert our sales pipeline and draw higher margins. We are -- I'm sorry. As for this quarter, while deployment had a dampering effect on our quarterly margins, we are confident that these significant contracts will prove rewarding in the quarters and years to come. Secondly, by all measures, mdf commerce remains undervalued in comparison to its close peers. We are pleased to see growing interest in the company from both institutional and retail investors in Canada and in the U.S. To our new shareholders, some of whom have joined us on the line today, we extend a warm welcome. And to our existing and loyal shareholders, we thank you. And with that, I would like to hand over the call to Diego to open up the line for questions. All yours, Diego.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Amr Ezzat with Echelon Partners.

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Amr Ezzat
Analyst

[Foreign Language] You guys, can you give us a high-level update on your large e-comm projects? You mentioned 200 stores rolled out. What is the plan over the balance of 2021?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Thanks for that, Amr. Things are going well in the U.K. I believe the count is exactly at 226 currently. We saw an enormous amount of demand flow through our platforms during December and a significant increase during January. We still have approximately another 1,000 stores to roll out, for which we're basically dependent on the ability of our customer to handle all of the physical and logistics aspects, right? This isn't just about implementing software, it's also about making sure people can obtain the various goods that they order online because they need to do the click and collect. As you're aware, the pandemic and the restrictions throughout the territory in the U.K. are particularly severe, if not some of the most severe in the world. And that is, I would say, slowing down the speed at which physical infrastructure can be deployed. Nothing to do with us, but has to do with the restrictions in how people can move around. So we are looking with our clients for ways to continue to roll out at the same speed, as it is of the utmost importance for our clients to be able to offer this service because it's really an essential and critical service for the people of U.K. and Ireland to have the ability to order and collect their groceries in a efficient and as fast as possible process. So things are going well. We're seeing immense amounts of traffic flow through our sites, immense amounts of orders. And so far, so good.

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Amr Ezzat
Analyst

Great. So okay, I guess, like the third national lockdown in the U.K. is hampering, I guess, some of the implementation ability. But let's say we get out of that lockdown in the summer time, things look a little bit like the December quarter, do you anticipate you'll be able to implement like 1,000 stores in 2021? Is that fair to assume?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

That is the plan that is in the books for now, right? It's really a question of all of our customers adjusting themselves to the requirements because they -- not only do they need to implement software, but they need to do a lot of physical stuff to modify their -- or sorry, to create temporary storing space for the goods that are ordered, to hire and train the people that are doing the collecting through the aisles in the stores. So all that is going as fast as possible right now.

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Amr Ezzat
Analyst

Great. Then if I'm thinking about maybe your first few stores, I know it's early days. But with that national lockdown throughout England, how does, generally -- how do generally volumes look relative to December? Is there like, strong momentum there?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Yes, definitely strong. While, of course, I'm not going to comment on specific volumes today, but I've learned that watching online grocery ordering at the same time as you're watching prime television from the U.K., whenever Mr. Johnson starts to speak and you start to turn a few notches of locking down a bit further, you actually see the amount of orders just increasing by the second on the platform. It's a good proxy, I guess, for measuring effectiveness of these measures, anxiety of people. It's quite extraordinary, yes. And the volumes in January were very high. We're already higher than the highest volumes that we've ever had on any of our other customers.

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Amr Ezzat
Analyst

That's great to hear. Okay. So let's move on. Like beyond Aldi -- I'm just wondering how the sales pipeline is looking in e-comm, specifically. Are you guys like speaking or engaging with a lot of customers? Are any of them as -- I don't want to say similar size to Aldi, but you know, like, good size?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Absolutely. Through our various partners that I mentioned, we are in basically a sales-pitch mode at multiple customers. And of course, most of them do not want us to talk about them, not only at the point of signature of contract, but they usually like to wait until stuff is actually up and running at least on a portion of the places. So yes, our pipelines are strong. Demand for e-commerce in general is very strong, coming both from customers who had existing but obsolete platforms, customers who have nothing and want to quickly embark on selling through online channels. And right now, I have to say that the limiting factor is not the ability to capture customers, but the ability to get them up and running fast enough. Our customers, as you know, are typically in the B2B space and of a larger nature. So this isn't the kind of website that a small 2, 3, 4-people operation can install in just a week and have a storefront. These require integration with complex ERP systems, financial systems, warehouses in many cases, multiple delivery channels, multiple curbside pickup systems and constraints. So these implementations just take time. It's not a click here, hit 3 or 4 buttons, choose the background color and off you go. So that's why right now, we're hiring. You see a lot of hiring going on. If you go on our website, you'll see that we have lots of positions open. Even our partners, and some of them are like hundreds of thousands of people, even our partners are struggling to get enough people on e-commerce demand.

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Amr Ezzat
Analyst

Okay. I'd like to switch gears and talk about your EDI platform. I know you're overexposed to retail and apparel, but I would have expected the number of transactions to increase in the December quarter relative to September. And I think the implied number for EDI that it's down sequentially. Just wondering, what am I missing here?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

You're probably thinking of Black Friday and Christmas ordering. Now remember that supply chain is the back end of the platforms, right? So this isn't about B2C. It's not used by consumers buying these products. It's the retailers order, in most cases, very much in advance of Black Friday and Christmas. And all of that stock is in warehouses so that when consumers hit the front end website and order, I don't know, shoes, dresses, skirts, whatever else, then they get delivered to your home. But the transaction -- EDI transaction had already happened long before, right?

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Amr Ezzat
Analyst

So there hasn't been any re-premising is what you're saying?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Correct. And a lot of the retailers are as you know, in economic uncertainty is probably the best way to describe it. Our EDI, our supply chain platforms have held up. They've been significantly stable, and that was a lot better than what we could have expected in the earlier days of this pandemic, at least during the first wave. So we were able to completely pick up back to where we started or -- but of course, have not, unfortunately, enjoyed growth. We did onboard a significantly new, large customer on our supply chain platform, that was Indigo, which we released about a month ago or so, and we're starting to see some of the volume there starting to happen as we're converting and onboarding the various suppliers. But we're not seeing any significant growth at this time. But I would say that on the supply chain side, holding up is good.

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Amr Ezzat
Analyst

Yes. Yes, definitely. Okay, one last one, and I'll pass the line. On Vendor Registry, can you just update us on how the migration of suppliers and buyers to your network is going? Have you seen any losses of the results? Then maybe you could touch on the pace of deploying some of that capital you have into M&A and to Strat Sourcing.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

So the integration of Vendor Registry is going extremely well. We are -- it's our second transaction in the year. We had K-eCommerce about 1 year ago, Vendor Registry a few months ago. And our integration playbook is now quite efficient. We're probably a little bit in advance of what we had envisioned to do the conversion from the customers of Vendor Registry. From a financial perspective, our models show that we're ahead of our initial plan. So things are really rolling very smoothly, very nicely. We had carefully planned that integration, and we have a specific person in the company handling that integration project. And at some point, I would like to present this person, but she manages it not by the day or the week. She -- I think she manages it by the second. When the second -- when the clock comes to the second that this event is supposed to happen, it happens. So we're very psyched on the integration of Vendor Registry going well. We're currently in contact and I would say direct contact with multiple other platforms of the Vendor Registry type. And we -- as you know, these transactions are a little harder to predict in terms of timing, especially related to the fact that we've never had any physical meetings with these folks. Many of them are private, many times single owner-owned businesses. And to just have Teams and Zoom with these folks, which are typically a bit more mature, is a bit of a challenge. It's hard to establish a good relationship. So we do have a few bigger ones that we're in touch with. And if you follow the market, you know that one of them was acquired very recently. So the market is quite hot to consolidate those strategic sourcing e-tendering platforms, but I think we're very, very well placed here.

Operator

Our next question comes from Deepak Kaushal with Stifel GMP.

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Deepak Kaushal
Director and Technology & Communications Analyst

I'm hoping you could help me quantify some of the opportunity with both the new customers and in the pipeline, specifically starting with the Aldi deal. Do I understand it correctly that you have not yet started revenue recognition for this? And I'm just trying to understand how you expect that to ramp up. And are the expenses for that going to level off here as you continue to deploy these deployments? Or is this kind of a lump sum to get you started and then it should decline from there? Any color on that would be help.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Well, thank you, Deepak, for that question. So the way it works is that we obviously need to deploy the software, do whatever customizations are required, integrate with the various systems that need to be integrated. And then if you remember, we did -- we indicated that we have the ability to integrate every store's planogram so the clicking -- sorry, the packing of the grocery is very efficient and well ordered. So as we started to do that with those 200-plus stores roughly in September. Prior to that, it was pretty much some piloting and experimenting. So we have recognized the services associated with doing all of that implementation, customization, et cetera. Up to now, we have very little recognition of what I would call platform revenue, simply because we activated those stores pretty much during the month of December. But it was, of course, towards the end of the month that they were all on. And there's also the fact that for Aldi, this is a new service. So whenever they advertise that, oh, the store at the corner of such-and-such street is now able to take click and collect, it obviously takes a bit of time for that customer base of that store to start using the service. So it's ramping up, it's ramping up very fast. But you should see more platform revenue, recurring type of revenue will start to click in, in the coming quarters. And we do expect that professional services will gradually taper off as we complete those installations, but we still have a few quarters to go.

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Deepak Kaushal
Director and Technology & Communications Analyst

Okay. And when we think of the 200 stores or 1,000 stores, any kind of metrics you can give us of potential revenue per store? Or can this be a 10% of your overall revenue or 10% of your overall Unified Commerce revenue in the next year? Can you kind of...

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

I'd love to answer that for you, Deepak. But as you know, we've signed some very strict, call them, NDAs with our customer, and that would be disclosing information of our customer that they do absolutely not want us to disclose. So I can't give you that specific level of answers.

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Deepak Kaushal
Director and Technology & Communications Analyst

Got it. So maybe if I can just back up and look at it in more aggregate, can you guys give us a sense of what your backlog is, your pipeline is and kind of what your conversion rate of that is? Anything that can help us kind of track how you guys are progressing on the top line.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

I guess the best indicators that we have currently would be the difference between the professional services and the recurring revenue, if you -- and I have a graph of that. I'm sure we'll have a chance to meet in the next little while. And you see a very sharp increase in the services, which is -- and there's a lag in the increase of the recurring revenue. If you go back, I'd say 6, maybe 9 months ago, that lag was very small because we were pretty much on top of all the implementation. So all of the business that we acquired over the last 6, 9 months has not fully yet started to generate the recurring revenue. So -- and I'm looking at the graph, but it's hard to give you a number like this on the phone. I think we need to sketch it out.

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Deepak Kaushal
Director and Technology & Communications Analyst

So generally, speaking -- go ahead, sorry.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Yes, I was going to -- well, go ahead.

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Deepak Kaushal
Director and Technology & Communications Analyst

No, I was saying so just on that, so should we think of like $1 of professional services revenue can support $10 of license revenue or recurring revenue or $40? How -- or $4? How should we think about that?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

That's an interesting question. Maybe, Deborah, we could try to figure something out, but I've never calculated it that way. And I think what we try to look at really carefully is the lifetime value of the customer versus the customer acquisition costs. And that -- those professional services revenue will have something to play in that customer acquisition cost. And of course, a contract like an Aldi contract or almost any e-commerce contract has a very long lifetime, right? So the revenue will be collected over a significant period of time. We're talking about multiyears because it's a pretty complex application to install. It's also a pretty complex application to remove and replace. So you don't do that unless there's a really, really good reason to do it. So -- but it's an interesting question. I haven't looked at it. If I looked over how much revenue we would hope to get from any particular account, can figure out the proportion between the professional services and the recurring revenue over, call it, a 3-year time frame, I think we could get some interesting data there.

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Deepak Kaushal
Director and Technology & Communications Analyst

Okay. Great. Well, maybe I'll just leave it there. And welcome, Deborah, to the team, and I guess there's a to-do list for me on some KPIs. But I have some more questions, but I'll jump back in the queue and see who else is online.

Operator

Our next question comes from Nick Agostino with Laurentian Bank Securities.

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Nick Agostino

I guess my first question, just sticking with the grocery theme, but not talking about Aldi. Can you discuss maybe some of your other legacy clients in Canada, for sure? How -- what the click experience is looking like now that the pandemic is about 1 year of age? And also, I believe one of your clients, Sobeys, is talking about expanding their virtual experience throughout Canada into Québec. Can you maybe talk about the time line for that deployment if it's going to happen?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Thanks, Nick. Good question. Well, the way Sobeys has shared with us their intent, we continue to see very strong volumes flowing through our platform. They're implementing, I think they call the service Voila, which is through a very centralized robotized warehousing delivering system. So I believe they're actually doing this in the Toronto -- in the GTA area, and they're trying out this system to serve very dense centralized cities. They don't seem to want to go to the franchisees to do that, because obviously it creates -- the click and collect at the store doesn't remove business from a franchisee, but the delivery from that central system completely takes the business out of the franchisee. So they're sort of balancing -- there's a balancing act there to do, which we're not privy to all of their details. We are aware that they're talking about building a second center like that in Montreal. I think it's in 2 years according to the latest I have heard. So -- but we're in good communication with them. The -- of course, they see some value in centralizing some things where it's possible. And if you come to that grocery conference that we're speaking next week, we will be addressing these types of differences. There seems to be a continuum in the world where it goes from very highly centralized, such as what Ocado is trying to offer, versus just very little distant pieces of e-commerce through something like Instacart, which requires no investment, no infrastructure, basically nothing. You just drop 10% of the order and Instacart takes care of it. And you have all the way to the very centralized warehousing automated model, which probably takes hundreds of millions of capital to build, but obviously offers probably some economies -- some pretty strong economies of scale. Our model right now is a little bit in the middle. We have the ability to centralize, but we don't have robots. It's not -- we don't sell any hardware or any devices that walk around the aisles of stores yet. But we do have systems that people use to do that. We've even added some watches now in order to scan directly the products that need to be brought to the click and collect service. So we're about in the middle. And depending on -- and we're in contact with lots of grocers in multiple countries. And there's a big element of culture that needs to be brought into this. If you go in Europe, if you go in Asia, in North Africa, generally populations live in much smaller areas than they do in North America or Western Europe. Refrigeration and freezing is not something that is used everywhere in the world. People in France, for example, still have the habit of going to buy their food every day. In very, very densely populated areas in Asia, in Africa and even South America, a lot of people do not have the ability to store a large amount of food in their home. They just don't do that. And the click and collect service for these folks really works well because it does save them time. So the world is sort of experimenting with grocery, and the pandemic has definitely very much increased the amount that is ordered online. We think it's created behavior that stays. And there are multiple areas of, I would say, bettering the consumption of various food products that we're taking advantage of in our platform and have the ability to adjust to these things. So it's really a developing industry. It's not yet baked fully what will be -- and I don't think there will be a unique model. Feeding is one of the most basic human reflex, I guess or -- and it's highly, highly cultural. People don't buy their food the same way everywhere in the world, and they don't even buy the same stuff. So I think we have to have a lot of flexibility in those systems, and one of the main reasons why we win business in grocery is the large amount of flexibility that we have in our platform. So we think we're well poised to take a good chunk of that grocery business, which we estimate -- on supplying technology to grocers worldwide, we currently have estimates that come from Gartner, I believe, at $67 billion yearly of technology. So still early days. Sorry, that's a long-winded answer, but I'm pretty passionate about ordering groceries online.

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Nick Agostino

Passionate about food, and that's always a good thing.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Well, I'm very passionate about food also. Yes, that's...

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Nick Agostino

I guess switching gears on the supply chain side. You said earlier that the market has kind of stayed stable for you, which is obviously a good thing. Given that we saw you announced the Indigo win, I'm just wondering, again, going back to the pandemic, the fact that we're 1 year into it, hopefully, 2021 is a year where we can get out more. What is your pipeline looking like when it comes to new potential wins within the whole supply chain/intertrade/EDI space?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

We've welcomed Clément Gignac on our Board. Maybe we should have asked him the question because, ultimately, this is an economy question, right? When is the economy going to resume to where it was? And right now, we -- I mean we do have -- we keep finding new customers, but we have lower volume than usual on the existing customers. Neiman-Marcus just doesn't sell as many fancy shoes as they did 1 year ago. How and when will it recuperate? We don't know. We do know, however, that we're I would say, a future for all of the retailers that we have. We're in direct contact with all of our customers at the executive level. We've had no write-downs even though many of them went under bankruptcy. And although we had a little bit of a delay in obtaining our payment, I believe we obtained 100% of what was owed to us even from folks who went under bankruptcy. And they kept telling us that this would come because we represent such a strategic element in their future, I would say, popping back up in business once consumption starts to resume, because let's face it -- and then you read more and more pieces about this. The stock market is doing extremely well, but the economy, the world real economy like we like to call it, is slow. It's not going at the same pace. And until that resumes, something like supply chain, especially since we're mostly in the general apparel, general merchandise and apparel sector is -- the way we're able to keep it stable on our end is because we're adding new customers, but each customer is consuming a little less than they were before. So as soon as consumption starts to pop back up to a reasonable growth rate, we will rise with the tide. But I don't have that crystal ball yet, and we only saw Clément yesterday at our Board meeting, and he didn't give us a full picture of how he sees the economy picking back up.

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Nick Agostino

Okay. And then one last one for me. You spoke earlier about having several, I guess, Vendor Registry-type discussions in the marketplace. Certainly, your share price, your multiple, you have a higher currency than you had, say, a year ago. I'm just wondering, what kind of multiples are you observing in a whole strat sourcing marketplace at present versus a year ago? And are you in a position to transact far better than you were, say, 6 months ago? And I'll leave it there.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Well, 1 year ago, I would have a hard time answering, that. I could look it up, but we did not do transactions 1 year ago, but I know of some firms that did. Multiples did go up a bit like many other and anything to do with the dual commerce. We -- you noted we paid about 5x sales Vendor Registry, the Negometrix transaction that was announced 2 days ago or 1 day ago was also in that range, it seems to be where the prices are. As they -- and we indicated in our remarks, we keep being undervalued compared to some of our peers. And when you look at the guys who bought Negometrix, I'm not going to give any air time to my competitors, but their trade -- their -- just their strat sourcing portion is trading at a multiple that if you applied it to our Strat Sourcing portion, it would give 0 to our Unified Commerce today. So there's definitely a lot of room for growth there. And yes, as we are acquiring, we have $38 million, $39 million or so of cash on the balance sheet that we can use. And should we be interested in using a little bit of equity to complete those transactions? I think we have a vehicle today that is of much more attraction than it was just 6 or 9 months ago, right? Remember, the low in April was about $2, $2.50.

Operator

Our next question comes from Martin Toner with ATB Capital Markets.

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Martin Toner
Analyst

Congrats on your good quarter.

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Deborah Dumoulin
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Martin.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Thanks, Martin. Appreciate the notice there.

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Martin Toner
Analyst

My question -- first question, when do .you think partnerships -- professional service partnerships might help speed up the time to bring customers online?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Yes, I'm sorry, I'm not sure I got your question. You asked why we think that?

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Deborah Dumoulin
Chief Financial Officer

When.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Oh, when.

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Martin Toner
Analyst

I was just wondering when.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Oh, when. Well, it's already helping, right? It's -- we're using our partners right now through -- some of the partners will be selling with us. For example, we are -- well, I'm not going to name any customers, but we are pitching today at some customers where it's actually the partner who's going to be really getting the contracts using our technology. So there's some of that, that will be coming quite soon, I believe. And we are today using some people from all of the partners that I mentioned to execute on certain contracts because that enables them to start training a workforce. So that once we have a sizable number of people trained, they become the trainers of the next wave of guys, and that's how we gradually add people to the ability to deliver and implement those systems. So it is currently the case. We have on our current customers, we are using as much as we can people from our partners so that we -- it gives them the ability to learn and deploy faster later.

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Martin Toner
Analyst

Super. And the growth rate for Unified Commerce ex professional services at over 100%, is that a good proxy for growth rate of your ARR method?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Let me make sure I -- because I see Deborah is adding numbers here frantically. But are you trying to imply that our annual recurring revenue in e-commerce would grow 100% next year?

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Martin Toner
Analyst

Just trying to get a feel for what the run rate is right now.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Well, our -- if I remember well, I think our recurring revenue in Unified Commerce is, call it, 60% or 57% I believe.

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Deborah Dumoulin
Chief Financial Officer

Yes, 57%.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

57% on our quarter. And we think that's going to gradually increase as a total of -- sorry, as a percentage of total revenue. And once we really gain momentum in activating those clients, there will -- there should be a sharp increase on a, call it, quarter-to-quarter sequential, but we're obviously not forecasting numbers with the Street. So expect growth, but I can't...

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Martin Toner
Analyst

So recurring as a percentage of Unified Commerce is about 60%?

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Deborah Dumoulin
Chief Financial Officer

57% for the quarter, yes.

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Martin Toner
Analyst

And at what rate has it grown?

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

The recurring revenue quarter-over-quarter according to -- I haven't calculated this, but when I look at my graphs, it's about 4%, 5% quarter-over-quarter.

Operator

And our final question comes from Richard Tse with National Bank Financial.

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Richard Tse
MD & Technology Analyst

Lot of questions today. One of them was around sort of the acquisition question, looking at it a little bit differently. Do you think there's an opportunity here to pare off the e-commerce or -- sorry, emarketplace segment? Obviously, it's a bit of a drag on the business that would certainly kind of amplify sort of the headline growth rates if you were to do that.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Well, as you probably remember, when I joined, the company had just sold off one of those emarketplaces, which was [ ePac ]. And [ Abe ] had tried to sell off both Jobboom and Réseau Contact, and we were unsuccessful. To be completely blunt and very transparent, these marketplaces are very, very niche, right, very niche and significantly small, right? When you add the 5 of them together, it was, what, $3 million, $3.5 million during the quarter? So you're talking about $12 million, $13 million on a yearly basis approximately. So that gives you properties of a couple of million of revenue, super niche. Most of them in Québec and Québec only. They're profitable, though. They are producing some nice margins. But for an acquirer, honestly, these -- the reason why these properties are declining right now is they've been sort of hit with the large -- think about Linkedin for recruiting, think about Tinder, Tiktok and whatever else for dating, right, even Facebook. So for those guys to want to buy a property like that, it's irrelevant, right? This is a rounding error on their numbers so they're not even going to bother. So there's no strategic buyers, and they're too small to be of interest for a private equity guy, just too small. So the only potential buyers are basically private individuals. But given the state of what's happening right now, it's not a good timing to go and do that. So we're keeping them, but we have really, I believe, found a productive and efficient way to manage them. We brought them all under 1 single leader. There basically is sales -- there's significant sales and marketing done there because these properties need to sell to continue to maintain their margins and their numbers. But there's very little investment. Those platforms are mature. They're working, and they're being liked by their customers. I mean we have a lot of volume on Jobboom, on Réseau Contact, on Polygon, the diamond thing, but there's not enough growth to think about investing significantly in the properties. We're just operating them. But you're right, it's somewhat of a drag. I wish -- if you take that off, we could announce a bigger growth in percentages. However, I know you'd hit me back saying, "Well, how come you decreased this year compared to last year?" Because then I had to go and tell you, "Well, we have $13 million of revenue from these guys. And now we have 0," so -- but I think with the growth rates we're having in Strat Sourcing and in e-commerce, come next year same time, this will be the rounding error on our total numbers. So I think the growth pricing will catch up, right? In Unified Commerce, we're growing at 50%. So this puts that, assuming it's maintained. In Strat Sourcing, we're growing at 25% in the States, and that's without that acquisition yet. It hasn't kicked in enough to do the number. In Canada, MERX is -- there's not a lot of growth space because I think MERX is already a very prominent property in Canada, but there's a heck of a lot of white space in the States, and we're taking really giant steps towards achieving those. So given another year, I think the emarketplaces will be a small enough portion of revenue that they won't materially change the KPIs.

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Deborah Dumoulin
Chief Financial Officer

And there is a high amount of recurring revenue, so it keeps things stable at the same time.

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Richard Tse
MD & Technology Analyst

All right. Okay. And just one last quick one from me. And welcome, Deborah, to the company. As we sort of model out the rest of the year, just from an OpEx perspective, I know you talked about having to certainly beef up with some investments. Can you give us some maybe color in terms of how those OpEx costs will scale through the year?

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Deborah Dumoulin
Chief Financial Officer

Right. Well, we're going to -- we're continuing to do quite a bit of hiring, so we're going to see some increased OpEx expenses related to hiring. Volumes will bring on extra costs like web hosting costs and things like that. So as we continue to scale up, there will be some net increases in terms of those comps, but we would expect that, probably as a percentage of total revenue, we can expect around the same types of ranges.

Operator

We thank you all for the questions. I'll turn it back to management for closing remarks.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Well, thank you, Diego. [Foreign Language] Thank you for being with us. Thank you for your support. [Foreign Language] So thank you, everyone, and don't hesitate to come see us on our website, and we'll be seeing you soon.

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Deborah Dumoulin
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

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Luc Filiatreault
CEO, President & Director

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's call. All parties may disconnect. Have a great day.