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Hello,
everyone.
My
name
is
Melinda.
I
will
be
your
conference
operator
today.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
Africa
Oil
Fourth
Quarter
2021
Results
Call
and
Webcast.
All
lines
have
been
placed
on
mute
to
prevent
any
background
noise.
After
the
speakers'
remarks,
there
will
be
a
question-and-answer
session.
[Operator Instructions]
Please
note
at
any
time,
participants
on
the
website
can
submit
their
questions
using
the
Q&A
option
on
the
webcast
interface.
Please
note
this
event
is
being
recorded.
The
recording
will
be
available
for
playback
on
the
company's
website.
I
would
now
like
to
pass
the
meeting
to
Mr.
Shahin
Amini,
Africa
Oil's
Investor
Relations
and
Commercial
Manager. Please
go
ahead,
Mr.
Amini.
Thank
you,
Melinda.
On behalf
of management,
I
thank you
for
joining
us
today
for
our
fourth
quarter
2021
results
call.
I'm
joined
today
by
our
President
and
CEO,
Keith
Hill;
our
Chief
Financial
Officer,
Mr.
Pascal
Nicodème;
and
they
will
both
present
the
quarter's
highlights
and
the
business
outlook
before
we
got
into
a
question-and-answer
session.
I
would
like to
remind
everyone
that
remarks
made
during
this
session
are
subject
to
forward-looking
statements
which
involve
significant
risk
factors
and
assumptions
and
have
been
fully
described
in
the
company's
continuous
disclosure
of reports.
The
information
discussed
is
made
as
of
today's
date
and
time,
and
Africa
Oil
assumes
no
obligation
to
update
or
revise
this
information
to
reflect
new
events
or
circumstances
except
as
required
by
law.
The
company's complete
financial
statements
and
related
MD&A
are
available
on
the
company's
website
and
SEDAR.
I
will
now
hand
you
over
to
our
CEO,
Keith.
Keith,
please
go
ahead.
Thanks, everybody,
for
joining
us.
Obviously,
we
were
slightly
surprised
with
the
opening
of
the market
today,
but
all
the
people
calling
in,
obviously
saying we've
got
a
great
buying
opportunity
ahead of
us.
I
think
we
actually
were
quite
pleased to
announce
the
results,
and
I
think
we've
actually
made
pretty
good
progress
on
all
the
fronts
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
some
time.
I
think starting
with
the
financials,
we
had
a
record
full
year
net
income
of
almost
$300
million
(sic) [almost $200 million] (00:02:42) or
$0.40
a
share.
We've
made
a
huge
amount
of
progress
on
our
net
debt
reduction
initiatives
where
we
ended
debt
free
and
with
cash
of
$60
million
at
the
AOI
level.
But
we've
also
reduced
Prime's
debt
significantly,
so
we're
down
to
a
debt
to
EBITDAX
ratio
of
0.4
times.
And
again,
we've
announced
our
share
dividend,
our
first
implementation
of
our
shareholder
return
program
which
seems
to
be
maybe
some
of
the
cause of
consolidation
among
some
of
the
investors,
and
we'll
have
a
good, wholesome
talk
about
that.
Again,
from
a
debt
standpoint,
we
refinanced
our
debt
that
we
have
taken
on
to
do
the Prime
acquisition,
much
lower
cost
with an
extended
term.
So,
right
now,
we
have
an
undrawn $100
million
facility
which
we
can
use
till
the
end
of
the
year,
and it
gives
us
some
liquidity
headroom. Also,
I
think
we
find
it
very
good
in
today's
environment
that
we've
got
very
good
support
from
our
banks
and
from
oil
traders
to
move
not
only
this
project
forward,
but
looking
forward
to
other
projects
we
may
do.
Perhaps
the
biggest
announcements
we
did,
and
I
think
for
a
lot
of
the
movement
in
our
share
price
last
week,
was
we've
opened
a
new
basin
in
the
Orange
Basin
with
the
Venus
discovery.
Early
days yet
on
Venus,
but
it
looks
to
be
a
very
major
discovery,
that
not
only
are
we
positioned
well
at
this
block,
but
we
have
other
blocks
in
the
region
that
could
benefit
from
this
as
well.
So,
quite
happy
with
the
results
of
that
well.
I
think
we
had
two
big
risks
going
in;
did
we
have
good
quality
reservoirs
and
was
it
oil
or
gas?
And
we
proved
that we
have a
very
good
reservoir
section
and
we
had
–
and
it's
light
oil,
not
gas.
So,
I
think
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
but
I
think
that's one
of
our
real
highlights
for
the
quarter.
And
again,
production-wise,
Nigeria
seems
to
be
just
rolling
along.
We've
hit
the
top
end
of
our
guidance,
both
in
working
interest
and
entitlement
interest.
And
we've
had,
for
the
second
year
in
a
row,
over
100%
reserve
replacement.
Essentially, we've
had
the
same
reserves
in
these
fields
as the day
we
bought
them
two
years
ago.
So,
I
think
if
you
look
at
the
true
measure
of
performance
of
Nigeria,
as
we
keep
saying,
it's
the gift
that
keeps
on
giving.
The
orange
line
you
see
is
our
dividends,
and
you
can
see we've
had
a
very
good,
steady
dividend
yield, $400
million
since
we
bought
the
field
almost
two
years
ago.
But
also
want
to
take,
pay
some
attention
to
that
gray
bar
as
well.
So,
compared
to
the
slightly
under
$100
million
we
had
when
we
bought
the company
in
the
bank
there,
we
now
have
an
additional
$189
million.
So, if
you
take into
account
that,
we've
actually
– you add
that
to
what
we
receive,
the
dividends
would
more
than
pay
for
our
acquisition
cost
in
less
than
two
years.
So, again,
I
think
this has
been
a
really
good
acquisition
for
us
and
I
think
it's,
again,
going
to
be
our
core
producing
project
moving
forward, with
no
signs
of
waning.
Again,
I
think
much
of
the
chat
we've
seen
since
we
announced our
dividend
policy
today
was
that
perhaps
it's
a
little
on
the
low
side
at
2.5%,
so
I
guess
I
want
to make
a
few
comments
on
that.
Number
one,
we
actually
decided
on
this
dividend
amount
back
in
December,
and
it
was
about
a
4.5%
dividend
at
that
time.
So,
fortunately
for
us,
our
share
price
has
gone
up
55%
since
the
beginning of
the
year,
so
it
actually
looks
like
a
smaller
dividend even
though
the
actual
amount
of
the dividend
was
the
same. But
I
think
the
second
comment
I'll
make
is
we
see
this
as
kind
of
a
baseline
dividend,
this
$0.05
a
share.
Obviously,
as
we
talked
about,
we've got
a
lot
of
money
tied
up
still
in
Nigeria,
both
in
cash
on
the
balance
sheet
but
also,
we
have
a
$305
million
securitization
agreement
payment
that's sitting
in
the
bank
there.
We
hope
to
liberate
quite
a
bit
of
that
cash
out
of
Nigeria
the
second
half
of
this
year.
So,
we'll
be
looking
at
that
dividend
policy,
and
I
think
there's
a
good
chance
we
will
be looking
to
increase
that
as
more
free
cash
comes
through.
But
I
think
the
other,
the
last
point
I
want
to make
is
that
this
is
a
decision
to pay a
dividend,
but
it
is
not
a
decision
to
stop
growing
the
company.
We
do
purposely
keep
some
of
our
cash
back
because
we
do
still
feel
that
even
in
this
$100
oil
environment,
there
are
some
really
good acquisitions
out
there,
and
we
are
involved
in
that
and
evaluating
and
even bidding
out
some
of
those
now.
So,
I
think
we
want
to keep
our
powder
dry
to
do
some
accretive
acquisitions,
primarily
production,
primarily
West
Africa,
primarily
[ph]
oil majors (00:07:50). And
obviously,
we
would
like
to
raise
as
little
equity
as
possible,
so
keeping
cash
on
the
balance
sheet,
combined
with
the
traditional
debt,
combined
with
some
trade
financing,
I
think
we
can probably
buy
things
without
having
to
go
back
into
the
equity
market.
Again,
first
dividend
maybe
slightly
lower
than
some
people
might
like,
but
I
think
we
thought
it
was
important
to
show
the
market
we
have
that
capital
discipline,
that
we
will
start
returning
cash
to
shareholders,
and
we
would
hope
to
see
that
dividend
grow
throughout
the
year
as
we
particularly
start
freeing-up
some cash
from
Nigeria.
So,
the promises
we
made
last
time,
last
year
this
time
was
our
first
promise
was
de-leveraging,
and
I
think
we've
definitely
done
that.
I
think
we've
not
only
cut
our
debt
down
to
zero
at
the
AOC
level, but
we've
cut
the
RBL
debt
down to
about
$0.8
billion. So,
we've
paid
down
just
about
$1
billion
[indiscernible]
(00:08:55)
over
the
past
two
years.
I
haven't
closed
on
a
new
acquisition
opportunity.
I've
tried
on
a
few
and,
as
we
said,
we still
got
a few
more.
I think
that's
a
real
goal
for
us
for
rest
of
this
year,
is
to
do an
accretive,
find
other
Nigeria-type
acquisition.
And
I
do
think
they're
out there. I
think
there's more
sellers
than
buyers,
and
I
do
think
it's
still
a
buyer's
market
out
there
even
at
$100 oil.
We
may
have
to
craft
our
bid
a
little
more
intelligently
and
maybe
a
little
upside
back
to
the
seller.
I
do
think
we
can
still
make
deals
at
[ph]
$50 (00:09:27)
oil
price
and
still
have a
possibility of
closing.
And
again,
we
have
instituted
our
shareholder
return
program. I
think
we
see
this
as
kind
of
first
step.
We
look
to
increase
that
or
even
potentially
look
at
share
buybacks
in
the
future.
Again, just
to
show
the
entitlement
production,
working
interest
production
for
this
year.
Again,
strong
performance. We're at
the
upper
end
of
the
range
both in
working interest
production and
entitlement
production.
We
are
also
well
over
the
top
of
the
range
on
our
free
cash
flow
from operations.
The
big orange, darker orange bar you
see
on
the
left, that's the
securitization
payment
we
got
from
Equinor
on
the
redetermination
of Block OML 127.
So,
again,
that
money
is
a
little
bit
locked
up
right
now.
We
still
have
to
have
some
discussions
with
our
friends
at Petrobras, but
we
hope
to
unlock
that
money
by
the
middle
of
the
year
and
have
it
available
for
dividend.
So,
again,
we
were
above
our
guidance
on
2021.
We
expect
an
equally
strong
guidance
on
cash
flow
from
operations
in
2022
– or
2023.
So,
CapEx,
we're
slightly
below,
and
we
have
been
kind
of
putting
CapEx
back
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
I
think
you'll
see
when
we
go
to the
next
slide,
we
are
going
to start
spending
some of
that
CapEx,
doing
deals,
doing
some
care
and
maintenance,
and
we
will get
back
to
drilling
some
wells.
In Egina,
we
will
be
getting
back
to
drilling
some
wells on
some
of
the
satellite
fields.
And
even in Agbami,
we'll
be
looking
to
drill
some wells
either late
next
year
or
early
the
following year.
So,
I
think
again,
these
fields
are
great
fields,
but
they
do
need
a
little
bit
of investment
to
keep
them
going at the level they are.
So,
our
guidance
for
next
year,
working
interest
production,
we
have
a
range
from
22,500 to 25,500 boe/d;
entitlement
production
from
23,000
to
27,000 boe/d.
That's
slightly
down
from
this
year
as
we
saw
some
of
the
fields
decline.
But
again,
I
think
with
the
capital
investment,
we're
hoping
to
kind of arrest
that
decline
or even in
some
fields
actually
raise
that.
Cash
flow,
again,
similar
to
last
year.
If
you
take
out
that
securitization
payment, we'll have
roughly
the
same cash
flow as
last
year.
And
I think
our
CapEx
will
go
up
a
bit
next
year,
and
we
still have
a
pretty
strong
debt
repayment
program
that
we
will
see
coming
this
year.
That is
one
thing
we
hope
to
put
off
by
doing
a
license
renewal,
a
really nice
license
renewal
especially
on OML
130.
And
if
possible,
we'd
like
to
get
our
debt
redone
once that
license
is
renewed
and
essentially
push all
of
this net debt
repayment
into
the
future.
So,
again,
fairly
modest
budget
for
the
company;
a
little
bit
of
money
in
Kenya,
which
we'll
talk
about.
But
we
try
to
keep
a
fairly
low
G&A
profile,
and
we
do
see
a
bit
of
equity
investment in
some
of
our
companies,
particularly
following up
on
the Venus
discovery.
So,
again,
the
financial
highlights.
At
this point,
I'll turn it
over
to
Pascal, let him walk
through
the
next
few
slides.
Thank
you,
Keith. No,
as
Keith just
mentioned,
I
think
it
was
a
record
year
last
year.
We
posted
$190 million
for
annual
net
income
which
is
a
great
achievement
with,
on
average,
more
than
$45
million
of
net
income
on
a
quarterly
basis. I think
the
main
achievement
last
year
has
been that we
fully
repaid
our
debt.
So,
the
acquisition
that
we
signed
when
we
did
this
Prime
acquisition
has
been
fully
repaid.
We
end
the
year
with
almost
$60
million
of
cash
balance.
Of
course,
all
these
figures
are
underpinned
by
very
strong
performance
at
Prime
level
on
a
production
and
price
basis
thanks
to our hedging policy.
And
we
booked
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
2021
profit
from
investment
in
Prime
of
$56
million.
Thank
you.
And,
yeah,
as
I
said,
so
very
strong
performance
from
Prime,
not even taking into
account the
security
deposit
that
we
received
in
June
last
year
which
is
basically
more
than
$150
million
net
to
our
share
in
Prime.
Prime
has
continued
to
deliver
in
terms
of
EBITDAX.
On
a
12-month
basis net to AOC, it's
more
than
$600 million
EBITDAX.
They've
continued
to
repay
their RBL
facility
which
is
below
$1
billion
now,
and
they
end
2021
with
a
cash
balance
of
more
than $500
million.
And
[indiscernible]
(00:14:39)
I
think
the
main
achievement
has
been,
as
I
mentioned,
the
full
repayment
of
our debt
facility.
And
on
top
of
that,
we
managed
to
increase
the
availability under
our
corporate
facility
up
to
$100 million
which
is
available
for
general
corporate
purposes,
including
acquisition,
so
we
are
really
keeping
this
line
as a
standby
line
to
be
able
to
fund
future
acquisitions.
And
at
very
competitive
terms,
we
basically
secure
that
standby line
with
our
existing
syndicate of
banks,
five
banks
which
hopefully
are
going
to
support
us
going
forward
in
our
acquisitions.
So,
if we can move
on
to
something
a
little
bit
more
exciting
now,
exploration
which
of
course
everyone
knows
is
underpinning
the
core
of
my
heart.
I
think
we've
had
an
active
exploration
program
for
the
past
few
years,
mostly
through
our
portfolio
companies.
And
we've
had
a
couple
of
nice
discoveries.
I
mean,
I
think
the Leopard
[indiscernible]
(00:15:47)
discoveries
and 11B/12B
were
phenomenal
discoveries,
and
I
think
our
friends
at
Africa Energy
are
working
to
move
those
forward.
I
think we
had
a
couple
of
discoveries
in
Guyana that
are
pretty
good, and
then
they
turned
out
to
be
a
little
bit
heavy and
sulfur-rich.
But
we
still
think Guyana
and Suriname
is
a
great
place
to
look for
hydrocarbons.
Obviously, it's
the
best
place
people
have
had
in
the
last
two
decades
to
find
oil
and
gas,
so
we
still have
a
position
there and
our
sister
company,
Eco
Atlantic,
is
working on
improving
that
position.
But
the big
one
of
course
is
Venus
where
we
finally
drilled
our
well
there,
and
looks
like
we've
made
a
real
world-class
discovery.
So,
again,
it's
a
huge
structure;
the
whole
structure
is
about
600
square
kilometers.
The
heart
of
the vein
itself
is
about
400
square
kilometers.
The
very
strongest
reflectivity
right
in
the
middle
is
about
150 square
kilometers,
so
it's
a
beautiful
discovery.
Again,
the
two
risks
we
had
was
was
it
gas
or
oil,
and
it's
now
confirmed
to
be
light
oil
with
associated
gas.
And
the
reservoir
quality
is
much
better
than
we
expected.
Not
only
is
it
about
twice
as
thick
as
we
expected,
but
it's actually
better
quality
than we expected.
So,
I
think
the
–
we
only
have
a
6.2%
indirect
interest
on
this,
but
we're
not
in
a
position
to
talk
about
resources.
We'll
leave
that
for
the
operator
and
for
Impact
to
do.
But
obviously,
you've
all probably
seen
some
pretty
big
numbers
being
bandied
about
in
the
press,
and
I
think that our
feeling is
those
are
not
unreasonable
numbers
per
what
we've
seen
so
far.
But I
think
for
what
–
what
we
like
about
it
is
there's also,
right
next
to
us, 40
kilometers
away, the
Graff
discovery
by
Shell.
So,
again,
they
found
what
we
think
is
a
very
large
oil
field.
And
kind
of to
underpin
that,
they
actually
took
a
rig,
resupplied
it,
and
brought
it
back.
And
they're
drilling
an
appraisal
well
which
is
8
kilometers
away
from
the
discovery
well,
so
that
gives
you
a
bit
of
an
idea
on
how
big
this
thing
could
be.
We
also
have
quite
a
nice
block
called
3B/4B
which
Africa
Oil
is
actually
the
operator
and
our
partner, Eco
Atlantic,
has
a
20%
working
interest.
We
see
a
lot
of
the
same
type
of
things
on that
that
they
saw
at
the –
in
the
Graff
discovery.
I
do
think
it's
interesting.
If
you
look
at
that little
inset
map down
on the
bottom
left,
that's
actually the
Guyana-Suriname
basin
at
the
same
scale
as
the
Orange
Basin.
I
think
it
kind of
shows you
just
how
big
the
Orange
Basin
is.
You
can
fit
the
entire Guyana and
Suriname
[indiscernible]
(00:18:25)
inside
of
Block
3B/4B.
So,
how
do
we
de-risk
this
delta?
This
is
one
of
the
big
five
deltas
of
West
Africa
and
the
only
one
that
really
hasn't
been
explored
yet.
And I
think
now,
we're
seeing
that
it's
got
a
huge
potential
now
that we
confirmed
the
petroleum
system.
You
also
see
on
that
there's
a
block
in
the
far
right,
Block
2B
which
is
again
an Africa
Oil
– sorry,
Africa
Energy,
and
an
Eco
block.
Eco
has
just
recently
taken
over
a
company
called Azinam,
so they
have
50%
interest
in
the operator.
And
of
course,
Africa
Oil
has
the
– sorry,
Africa
Energy
has
a
13%
working
interest,
so
we
have
a
very
good
interest
in
this.
We
will
be
drilling
a
well
there and
hopefully
spudding
in
the
third
quarter.
And
this
is
not
related
to
the
Venus
discovery
or
Graff
discovery;
this
is
actually
a
rift
basin
which
actually
looks
a
lot
more
like Kenya.
And
it
already
has
a
well
that's
proven
a petroleum
system
there
so,
again,
we're
quite
keen
on
that
well.
And
I
think
it's
not
as
big
as
some
of
the stuff
offshore,
but it
has
great
economics
[indiscernible]
(00:19:36) and
shallow
water
with
good
terms.
So,
again,
we
still
remain
very
keen
on
exploration and
I
think
you'll
see
us
following-up
our
investment
in
Venus
and
staying
on
that,
so
I
think we're quite keen on
that.
All right,
on
Kenya.
Kenya
seems
to
be
the
forgotten
child
here
in
Africa
Oil. I
kind of
don't blame
investors
on
that.
We've
been
[ph]
at this
(00:20:09)
a
long
time.
I
keep
telling
everybody
here,
it's
a
great
project
and
that
we
are
moving
forward
on
this. We
have pretty
good
chance
of
moving
this
forward.
I
can't
blame
people
for not
believing
me
after
all
these
years
of
making those
promises,
but
I
can
tell
you
we
are
quite
engaged
on
this. I
was
in
Kenya
last
week.
We
have
a
couple
of
interested,
very
interested
parties,
and
I
think
the
chances
of
getting a
strategic
partner
we've
been
looking
at
for
the
past
few
years
is
getting
closer
and
closer.
I
can't
make any
promises.
I
can't
disclose who
it
is,
but
I
think
we're
actually
getting
pretty
excited
that
we're
finally
going
to get
over
the hump
on
this and
actually
move
this
project
forward.
So,
again,
the
proof
is
in
the
pudding. If
we
have
a
partner,
we're
hoping
to
announce
sometime
in
the
second
quarter.
But
the
stars,
seem
like
they're
finally
aligning
[ph]
on
this (00:20:59),
and
I
think we've
got
a
good chance
of
actually
putting
some
value
into
the
company
on
this. I
can
tell
you
right
now
there
is
no
value
for
Kenya
in
our
share
prices.
But
if we're
able
to pull
this off,
I
think
this
is going
to
be
worth
[ph]
a
piece
to (00:21:11)
dollar,
probably
more,
shares
to
the
company.
So,
I
think,
when
we
talk
about
Africa
Oil,
you
probably
saw
our
reserve
report.
Right
now,
the
Nigeria
project
[indiscernible]
(00:21:23)
is
worth
about
$1.4
billion,
just
based
on $50
oil.
And
I
think
if
you
take
the
debt
off
that
we
have,
which
does
not
only
cover
net
debt
[indiscernible]
(00:21:35),
you
get
about
$1.2
billion
valuation
just
for
Nigeria
which,
of
course,
is
significantly
above
our
share
price
to-date,
about
$900 million.
So,
I
think,
I
believe
I've
said
this
before,
you
kind
of have
the
ability
to
buy
Africa
Oil
for
Nigeria,
have
a
good
and
stable
investment
which
is
now
our
cash
flow
and
dividend
paying
projects.
But
you get
the
rest
of
this
all
for
free.
So,
not only
our
exploration
portfolio
of companies,
which
[ph]
first now (00:22:11)
there's
probably
a
pretty
big
value
associated
to
our
Venus
discovery.
But
you
also
get
Kenya
for
free.
I
mean
I
think
that's – if I'm
looking
to
buy
Africa
Oil
shares,
I
think
that's
the
way
I
think
about
it. This
business
is
somewhat
of
a
risk-free
investment
on
Nigeria,
and
you
get
all
the
other
stuff
at
no
cost.
And
I
do
think,
obviously,
now
that we
made
the
Venus
discovery,
I
think
you'll
see
us
adding
more
value
in
exploration.
So,
this
is
our
catalysts
that
we
see
in
2020.
So,
obviously,
we're
hoping
that
the
Total
goes
as
quickly
as
possible
[ph]
to
up and (00:22:52) appraise
this
discovery,
so
we
have
a
better
understanding
of
it.
[indiscernible]
(00:22:58)
program
forward
[indiscernible]
(00:22:59).
I
like
to
think
this
could
be
one
that
can
be
developed
very quickly
if
you
take the
[indiscernible]
(00:23:06).
They
were
four
years
from
the
first
discovery
well to
being
on
production.
I
think
that's
what –
we'd
love
to
see
a
similar
type
program
on
Venus.
We're
also
designing
a
well,
which
we'll
have
the
results
over
this
year,
again,
should
be
[ph]
spending (00:23:22)
sometime
in the
third
quarter.
And
then Prime, I think
the
biggest thing
in
Prime
for
us
is
converting
the
license
to
the
new
Petroleum
Investment
Act,
which
comes
automatically
with
28-year
license
renewal.
So,
once
we
do
that,
then
we
can refinance
the
RBL.
All
the money
we've
been
thinking about
paying
back
to
the
banks,
we
can
actually
keep or
use
for
either
distributions
to
shareholders
or
to
buy
assets.
So,
again,
that's
one
of
my
big
focuses
now
is
we're
looking
at
producing
assets.
Again,
I
kind
of would
prefer
to buy
things
in
the
$50
oil
market,
but
I
still
think
because
it's really
a
buyer's
market,
there's
still
a
number
of
good
assets
that
the
majors
are
selling
off
and
again,
I
think
there's
a
lot
more
sellers
than
buyers
[indiscernible]
(00:24:11).
And
then finalizing
Kenya.
I
mean
I
think
Kenya,
most
people think
I
believe
it when
I
see
it
approach,
but
I
can
tell
you
that over
the
last
year,
the
operator
Total –
myself
and our partner Total have
been
working
very
hard
on
getting
the
project
in
shape
and
working
hard
for
a
strategic
investor
to
finally
[indiscernible]
(00:24:32).
So,
that's pretty
much all
I
had
to
say. I'll
let
you
read
the
forward-looking
statements
at
your
leisure
and
I
just
want
to
thank everybody
once
again
for
dialing
in
and
I
think
we're
now
ready
for
questions.
So,
yes, operator,
[indiscernible]
(00:24:51)
Thank
you.
[Operator Instructions]
And
we
take our
first
question
from
James
Hosie
with
Barclays.
Please
go
ahead,
your
line
is
open.
Thanks.
Good
afternoon and
good
morning,
everyone.
Yeah.
I've
just
got a
question
on
your
refinancing
plans
for
Prime.
It
certainly
sounds
like
doing
the
life
extension,
the
prerequisite
to
refinancing
the
RBL.
I
just
wondering
how
you
manage
the
needs for
your
partners
in
those
licensees
to
also
look
to
extend
the
license
and
move
to
new
fiscal
terms?
Yeah.
So,
hi,
James.
We
are
building
[indiscernible]
(00:26:24)
in
relation
to
that
refinancing,
so
I
wouldn't
say
that
the
license
renewal
is
a
prerequisite.
We
are
thinking
about
[ph]
structure
(00:26:36) together
with
Prime
in
order
to
refinance the
RBL
before
license
renewals
and
you
probably
saw
that
we've
closed
last
year
this
pre-exposed
activity
that
already
extends
beyond
the
license
renewal
date;
so,
refinancing
the
RBL
with
other
type
of
debt
is
not
impossible
at
this
stage
and
we've
already
done
it.
So,
I
think
the
purpose
for
this
year
is
really
to
continue
to
reschedule
the
amortization
profile
of
the
RBL and
extended
it
beyond
the
license
renewal
date.
So,
I
think
this
is
a
work
in
progress. I'm
not
saying
we
are
going
to
[ph]
re-fi (00:27:19)
the
full
RBL
in
one
go,
but
at
least
we
are
going
to
continue
to
arrange
this
additional
tranches
and
move
the
debt
repayment
profile
beyond
the
license
renewal
dates.
And
as
far
as the
actual
renewal
is
concerned,
[indiscernible]
(00:27:35)
renewals
about
this,
but
the
operator
[indiscernible]
(00:27:38) are in their
OML 130
and
OML 127
and have
started
the
discussions
[indiscernible]
(00:27:44-00:27:47)
and
of
course,
it's
a
sort
of
win-win
situation
where
as
soon
as
you
extend
[indiscernible]
(00:27:54)
I
think
it's
in
the
interest
of
all
parties
to
get
earlier
renewal
of
the
licenses
and
move
as
soon
as
possible
[indiscernible]
(00:28:05).
Okay.
Thanks
[indiscernible]
(00:28:10).
Sorry, go
ahead.
[indiscernible]
(00:28:13)
I
think extension on OML
130
we
see
is
much
easier. I
think OML
127
has
some
complications
with
the
local
partner,
so
I
think
that one
will
be
a
tougher
one.
But
I think,
as
Pascal
said,
I
think
everybody
has
incentive
to
move
forward.
For
us,
the
important
one
is
OML 130 as 80%
of
our
reserves
production
cash
flows
come
out
of OML
130,
so
that's
the
more
important
one
for
us.
Okay.
Thank
you.
And
just
want
one
further
question
on
Kenya.
So,
it's
promising
if
you
feel
you
could
have
news
on
the
farmout
in
Q2.
I
was just
wondering
if
we
should
be
expecting
that
farmout
to
evolve
with a
cash
coming
to
Africa
Oil or is it,
essentially,
you're
looking
for
carries
through
the
initial
development
work?
Yeah,
I
think we're
kind
of
agnostic
as
to
whether
it's
cash
or
carry
on.
I
think
– but
the
interested
parties
we've
been
discussing
with
have
offered
both
and,
frankly,
it
doesn't really
matter
to
us
that
much.
I
think
the
dollar
amounts
are
the
important
thing,
whether
it's
paid-up
front
or
whether
it's
on
carries
is
less
important.
Okay.
Thanks
very
much.
Next,
we
go to
the
line
of
Nik
Stefanou
with
Ren Cap.
Please
go
ahead,
your
line
is
open.
Hi.
It's
Nik
from
Ren Cap.
Thank
you
for
taking
my
questions.
I've
got
three
[indiscernible]
(00:29:39)
PIA
and
one
with
hedging.
Have
you
done
an
internal
exercise
to
see
maybe
what's
the
[ph]
migration (00:29:47) or
kind
of
like
a
free
customer
uplift
you
could
get
if
you
conform
to
PIA
terms.
And
that's
the
first
question
on
that
topic.
And
the second
one
is
I
recall
when
the
bill
was
out,
it
was
supposed
to
be
effective,
so
January
1 last
year,
is
there
a
chance
they
could
make
an
argument
for
kind
of
like
fiscal
terms
actually
going
back
and
then
making
kind
of
like
a tax kind of like claim
on
that
or
it's
kind
of
like
it
would
just
be
effective
as of
when
parties
convert
to
the
new
fiscal
terms.
So,
these
are
the
PIA questions
I
will
ask
follow-up?
Thank
you.
Yeah. So,
we've
done
our
economic
analysis
of
converting
the
PIA
and
we
see
about
10%
to
15%
uplift
in our
NPVs.
Now,
one
of
the
reasons
is,
of
course,
we've
got
[indiscernible]
(00:30:47)
which
is
a
new
discovery
and
it's
still
on
royalty
holiday
and
[indiscernible]
(00:30:56)
a
new
development
which
will
have
royalty
holiday
and all
of
those
are kind
of encapsulated
in
the PIA.
But
there's
a
majority
of
good
points
coming
in
to
the
PIA
which
is
a
change
in
taxes
from
50%
down to
30%.
And I
think
there's
a
number
of
other
positive
things
that are associated
with
PIA.
I
don't believe
there's anything
worth
going
back.
In fact,
once
you
convert
to
the
PIA,
all
past
disputes
are
considered settled.
So,
I
think
that's one
thing
that
in
OML 127, I
think, they're
thinking
about
there
are
some
outstanding
disputes
that
might
have
to
be
settled
before
that
gets
converted
to
PIA.
But
in
general,
we
see
it
as a
very
positive
thing
for
us.
We
see
us
[indiscernible]
(00:31:39)
by
adopting
PIA.
Understood.
And then
on
the
hedging,
should
I
think
of
your
policy
as
you
will
sell
forward
at
whatever
the
curve
is,
say
for
[indiscernible]
(00:31:58)
for
the
following
quarter.
So,
for
example,
I
think,
[indiscernible]
(00:32:04)
the
entire
of
the
first
and
second
quarter
then
should
I
expect
following
the
second
quarter,
you
will
sell
forward
your
3Q
and
maybe
some
of
the
4Q
cargoes
at
what
the
[indiscernible]
(00:32:16)
would
be
at
that
point
in
time?
Is
that
how
the
policy
works?
Yeah.
On
the
hedging policy,
which
is
something
that
the
bank
supports
as
part
of
our
RBL,
it's
about
trying
to
maintain
a
little
financial
discipline.
Obviously,
in
the
first
half
of
this
year,
we probably
use
a
little
bit
on
our
hedging.
I
will
tell
you,
in
2020,
we
made $430
million
gains on
our
hedging.
So,
I
think
what
we
see
in
hedging
is
an
instrument
to
kind
of
smooth
out
cash
flows
a
bit
and
that's
also
something
the
banks
want
to
see.
So
the
current
policy
is
we
tend
to
hedge
between
50%
and
60%
of
our
crude
and
the
way
the
market
is
right
now,
you
can't
really
easily
hedge
on
with a
reasonable
price
too
far
out.
So,
we
tend
to
[indiscernible]
(00:33:09).
The
last
the
last
one
we
had
was
at
$88
and
I
think
we're
holding it
dry.
For
the
second
half
of
the
year,
we've
got
four
unhedged
cargoes,
and
given
what's
happened
in
the
world,
I
think
we
may
hold
off
and
try
to
get
a
better
price
for
those.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Next,
we
go
to
the
line
of
SpareBank
1
Markets.
Your
line
is
open,
if you'd
like
to
state
your
name
prior
to
asking
your
question,
please.
Yes.
Good
afternoon.
This
is
Teodor
Nilsen,
from
SpareBank
1
Markets.
Thanks
for
taking
my
questions,
and
congrats
on
a nice
2021.
And
three
quick
questions.
The first
one,
that
is not
actually maybe not that quick.
But
on the Venus discovery, I
know
it's
early
days
but
is
it
possible
to
discuss
some
potential
development
solutions
[indiscernible]
(00:34:04)
production
potential?
Second
question
is
on
the
dividend
policy.
[indiscernible]
(00:34:08),
Keith,
you
said
that
you're
looking
for
a
[indiscernible]
(00:34:13) dividend
throughout
the
year
and
then
how
should
we interpret
that?
Will
you
get
dividend
as
a
percentage
of
cash
flow
or
EPS
or
how
should
[indiscernible]
(00:34:24)?
And
last
question
is on
operating
cash
flow
and
guidance
you
provided
for
Prime
[indiscernible]
(00:34:29).
What
is
the
underlying
oil
price
assumptions
or
hedging
assumption
[indiscernible]
(00:34:35)
that
guidance?
Thank
you.
[indiscernible]
(00:34:42)
or
the
easy
one
is
the
forward
curve
on
the
cash
flow
assumptions
for
Prime,
$60 flat,
essentially
a
long-term
price.
And
then,
we
use
the
hedged
values
to
the
short
term.
So,
whatever
we've
hedged
plus
basically
[indiscernible]
(00:35:08)
long
term
$60
price
target.
[indiscernible]
(00:35:14)
question.
I'm getting
old,
Teodor.
Remind
me
again
of
the
question number
one.
Yeah.
The
first
question
was
on
Venus
discovery
and
cash
development
solutions
and
production
collection potential
and
effect also
on
dividend?
And
so, Venus
production,
I
think,
it's
way
too
early
to
talk
about
that.
We
drilled
one
well.
We
need
to –
I
think
the
plan
is
probably
to
drill
a
couple
more
appraisal
wells
and
there's
also
other
prospects
[indiscernible]
(00:35:43).
I
think
until
you've
drilled
those
wells.
Obviously,
we're
quite
happy
with
the
first
well,
but
you'll
need
a
couple
of more
wells
to
prove
that
– it's
a
huge
area. You
need
to
prove
that
[indiscernible]
(00:35:57)
over
that
whole
area
that
you
can
make your
development.
There
is a
[indiscernible]
(00:36:05) for
those
that have
access
to
it,
it
kind
of
gives
their
idea
that,
honestly,
I
think
it's
a
bit
early
to
make
those
kind
of
suppositions
around
what
we're
going
to
do.
I
actually
didn't
understand
you
on
the
second
one?
Yeah.
Well
the second
question is
just
on
the
dividend
in
the
long-term
[indiscernible]
(00:36:26)
2022.
Should
we
think
about
that
as
a
percentage
of
EPS
or
cash
flow
when
[indiscernible]
(00:36:33)?
I
think
[indiscernible]
(00:36:36) $0.05
per
share is
kind
of
the
base
dividend.
Right
now,
when
we
announced
that,
as
I
said
before,
it
was
like
4.5%
yield
on
[indiscernible]
(00:36:47)
share
price
went
up to
actually
the
yield
went
down
quite
a
bit
as
a
result
of
that.
But
when
we
see
this
kind
of
[indiscernible]
(00:36:56)
that
are
base
dividend
going
forward,
but
each
time
we
have
a
semi-annual
dividend
every
time
we
put
a
dividend
going
forward, we'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
I
think
you'll
see
that as
a
minimum,
but
we
do
want
return
excess
cash
to
shareholders.
We
also
just
want
to
do
acquisitions,
so
I
think
we
need
to
keep
that
in
mind.
Now,
the
big
thing
is
that
in
the
second
half
of
the
year,
we've
probably
seen
quite
a
bit
of
money
freeing
up
from
Nigeria.
So,
we'll have
a
much
bigger
pool
of
cash
to –
and
wish
to
take
that
dividend.
So,
again,
we'd
like
to
see
a
bigger
dividend
going
forward,
but
we
do
also
want
to make
sure
that
we
take
advantage
of
acquisition
opportunities.
Okay,
understood.
Thank
you.
[indiscernible]
(00:38:01)
Keith,
Pascal,
there are
a
number
of
questions
submitted
through
the
webcast,
[indiscernible]
(00:38:09).
So,
I'm
just
[indiscernible]
(00:38:11)
in
order.
The
first one
submitted,
in
fact,
before
the
call
started,
has
there
still development
plan
for
Kenyan
project
[indiscernible]
(00:38:22),
and do
you
expect
any
changes,
that
are
necessary
to
be
made
[indiscernible]
(00:38:27)?
So,
[indiscernible]
(00:38:29)
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
that
when
I
was
in
Kenya
last
week.
I
think,
in
general,
everyone
is
very
happy,
both
the
joint
venture
partners
and
the
government
with
the
overall
development
plan.
There
were
a
few
tweaks
to
be
made
[indiscernible]
(00:38:43),
and
I
think
we're
now
working
through
those
with
the
government.
The
potential
partners
that
are
coming
in,
the
people
that
are
looking
at
it,
I
think,
are
also
quite
happy
with
that
development
and
plan
and
we
would
take
it
as
it
is
going
forward.
So
I
think
the
process
is
that
by
May
5
or
certainly
the 10th,
it
was
the
deadline
for
the
government
to
approve
and
we're
working
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
we
resolve
everything.
But
right
now
I
think
we're
at
95% –
98% of the way there.
I
would
expect
it
to
be
on
track
for
approval
on
the
10th
of
May.
The
second
– another
question
is
on
Venus.
Can
you
discuss
appraisal
plans
for
Venus
Block,
other
prospects?
Venus
[indiscernible]
(00:39:41)
and
if
the
upside
case is
600
square
kilometers,
the
full
structure
that
it's
full
of
hydrocarbons?
Yeah.
I
think
it's best
to
let
the
operator
talk
about
that.
I
mean
frankly
don't know
what
Total's
plans as
operator is
to
do
with
them.
When
I
told
you
I
think
a
couple
of
development
or
appraisal
wells,
I
think
that's
me
talking
as
a
shareholder
of
Impact
and
even
as
a
working
interest
holder.
So
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
that there
are
similar-type
prospects
on
the
West
Venus
Block
so
I
think
–
I
would
hope
that
a
very
active
drilling
program
would
commence
sometime
later
this
year
on
both
of
those
products.
And
following
on
from
that
what
is
your
personal
preference;
to
go
all
the
way
to
first
oil,
whether
to
monetize
before?
As
the
great
American
philosopher
Clint
Eastwood
said,
man's
got
to
know
his limitations.
And
I
think
at
some
point
we
have
to kind of ask
ourselves
and
Impact
as
an
investment
partner
in
this,
do
we
want
to be
a
deepwater
developer
with
some
of the major
oil
companies?
I
think
the
tentative
answer
is
we
prefer
not
to
be,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
follow
the
Cove
model
and
I think Cove
did
a
good.
If
we
wanted
to
sell
this,
I
think
we
need
to
stay
in
for
a
little
while
and
drill
some
appraisal
wells
and
understand
this.
I
think
you get
one
price
if
you
drill
one
well
and
have
a
discovery;
I
think
you
get
another
price
if
you
drilled
some
appraisal
wells
and
have
kind
of a
well
thought-out
development
plan
by
the
operator
ready
to
go.
So,
I
think
that will
be
your
question
how
long
we
want
to
stay
in, but
I
think the
answer
is
we
don't
want
to
stay until
first
production
is.
That
would
be
my
guess
[indiscernible]
(00:41:31).
I have
a question
for
Pascal
and,
well,
congratulations,
and
the
question.
So,
we're
quite
impressed
by
the
refinancing
and
the
standby
credit
facility.
The
question
is
obviously
the
ESG narrative
and
climate
change
is
a
big
headwinds
for
banks
lending
to
oil
and
gas projects.
Do
you
see
that
as
a
problem?
I
think
going
forward, well,
first,
we
have
the
strong
support for
five
banks
which
all
have expressed
an
interest
to
support
us
going forward
in
acquisitions. I
think
that's
a
real
positive.
I
think
for
all
these
banks,
we
ticked
all
the
boxes
for
their
strategy;
their
oil
and
gas
strategy
going
forward.
We're
trying
to
communicate
more
and
more
in
terms of
ESG. We
posted our
Sustainability
Report,
at
the
same
time as
we
posted
[ph]
EIS (00:42:24)
yesterday,
so
all
this
is
going
in
the
right
direction.
So,
I
think
in
the next
12
months
or
two
years,
I
think
we
will
discuss
even
more
with
our
banks
about
sustainability-linked
covenants
as part
of our
refinancings,
so that's
definitely
the
trend
at
the
moment.
But
I
think
as
long
as
we
continue
to
report
on
the
same ESG line
and
we
understand the
ESG
standards,
we
should
keep
the
support
of
our banks
and
that's
definitely the
intention.
I
think for the
people
that
are
good
actors
on
the
ESG
side and
especially
of
course of
the
focus
is
on
the
carbon
side.
I
think
we
will
still
be
investable.
I
think
there
are
some
OECD
banks
that
won't
be
able
to
write
loans
for
oil
and
gas
anymore. But I
think
there's
quite
a
few
that
will.
And
I
think
we
may
have
to
look
at
other
markets;
Middle
Eastern
markets,
Far
Eastern
markets
for
financing.
But
I
think
the financing
is
there.
I
think
you
have
to
be
at
the
top
quartile
or
maybe
in
the top
decile
of
ESG
performers
to
be
able
to
attract
those
type
of
investments.
And
there's
a
question on
the
[indiscernible]
(00:43:37) in
an
undeveloped field,
it
went up
[ph]
$130 (00:43:40),
could
you provide
an
update?
Yeah.
[indiscernible]
(00:43:42)
is
kind
of
just
waiting
for
us
to
pull
the
trigger
on
it.
Obviously,
it
wouldn't
come
onstream
until
just
before
the
license
extension.
So
I
think
at
least
one
of
the
partners
is
quite
keen
to
get
the
license
extension
before
we
pull
the trigger.
But
we've
done
all
the
groundwork.
We've
actually done
a
re-look
at
it
this
past
year
and
then we've
been
able
to
take
three
wells
out
of
the
development
program
with
increasing
reserves
and production
and
so
I
think
we're
ready
to
pull
the
trigger
on there.
We've
already
drilled
it.
We've
already
got
a
development
plan
with
the
government.
So
I
think
the
only
thing
kind of
holding
us
up
is
we'd
like
to
see
that
license
extension
before
we
pull
the
final
investment
decision
on
that.
Okay. Here's
a
tough one
for you,
Pascal.
Have
you
considered
switching
the
corporation,
the
country
domicile
to UK
or
somewhere
else?
Perhaps
more
taxes, to shareholder
dividends,
et
cetera, withholding
tax?
No,
we
haven't
talked
about
it.
I
think
in
the change
of
domicile
should
go
as
a
– together
with
a
big
milestone
production
price.
At
the
moment,
I
think
we
are
well-domiciled in
[indiscernible]
(00:44:52) Canada
and
we
see
the
same
structure
for
the
time
being.
Yes.
Okay.
Well,
there
is a
tough
one
on South
Africa
exploration
for
you,
Keith.
It's
specifically
about
the
court
case
and
the
question
goes
how
could
exploration
program
for
these South
African
investments
be
hindered
by
recent court
rulings
there on
seismic
data
acquisitions?
Well,
I
think
we're
all
a
bit surprised
on
this
because
so
many
seismic
acquisition
of
this
nature
has
been
going
on
for
50
to
70 years. I
think
all
of
the
studies
indicate
it has
a
fairly
minimal
impact
on
any
acquired
life and I
think
we
had
done all
of
the
necessary
environmental
impact
assessments.
So
we're
a
bit
surprised
by
this
action.
So
I
think
obviously
there
are
court
cases.
There
are
court
dates
coming
up.
We have
appealed
this
decision
and
I
think our
operator,
Shell,
will
be
aggressively
trying
to
move
this
project
forward.
I
think
certainly
from
a
overall
environmental
standpoint
of
South
Africa,
the
gas
that
we
found in Block
11B/12B
and
the
potential
oil
or
gas
found
in
the
[indiscernible]
(00:46:16) Block
where
the
seismic
was
cancelled,
we
would
potentially
be
displacing
coal-fired
power
plants
in
South
Africa,
so
having
a
very
positive
permanent
impact.
But
also from
a
social
impact,
there
are
still
a
lot
of
people in
South
Africa
who
don't
have
access
to
reliable
power.
So
I
think
ESG is
a
threefold
thing: It's
Environmental,
it's Social
and
it's
Governance.
I
think the
Social
side,
particularly in
Africa doesn't
get
enough
attention.
Less
than
2%
of
all
CO2
emissions
from
the
world
come
from
the
entire
continent
of
Africa.
So
I
think
what while
we
are
all
engaged
in
the
transition,
I
think
we
also
have
to
be
cognizant
that
the
people
in Africa
need
power,
reliable
power,
and
that
there
are
alternatives
either
burning
coal
or
deforesting
the
continent
that
are not
viable
alternatives.
We
hope
they
make the
right
decision.
Very
good.
And
there
is
a
question
Pascal
on
Q4
2021
cash
flow
from
operations
and
why
is
it
lower
than
the prior
quarters?
I
can answer
that
if
you
like
or...?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I
mean
–
so
the
reason
our
Q4
cash
flow
was
lower
than
is
simply
due
to
the
timing
of
the
cargos.
So
there
is
a
movement
in
our
working
capital
and
so
the
cash
flow
one
of the
cargos
liftings
hasn't been received...
Okay.
And
so
that's
kind of
tackle
that.
And
Keith
is
Egina
trading
at
a
premium
to
Brent
currently?
I
don't
know.
I
mean,
it
was.
At
one point, we were even
[ph]
$6,000
(00:48:00) premium
because there's
very
little
sulfur,
very
good
quality
oil.
I
think
we,
if
memory
serves,
we've
sold
about
three
or
four
cargos
from
there.
I
think
we
still
are
getting
a
slight
premium,
not
as
much
as
we
were
at one
point but
I
believe
Egina
still
does
command
a
bit
of
a
premium
to
Brent. I'm not
100% sure.
There
are
many,
many
questions
on
dividends
versus
share
buybacks,
and
we
had
this
experience
when
we
were
consulting
our friends
and
investors
and
there
were
camps
that
wanted
dividends;
there was
a
camp
that
wanted
buybacks.
So I supposed
I'm
going
to
have this two-way
dialogue
with
you
[indiscernible]
(00:48:37)
a
lot
of
these
questions
and
a
lot
of
people are saying,
well,
you're
telling
us you're
undervalued
[indiscernible]
(00:48:42),
why
don't
you
do
a
share
buyback?
And
I
supposed
we've
already
said,
we
haven't
dismissed
share
buybacks and
it
is
still
on
the
table.
We
are
under
promising
and
we
want
to
over-deliver
as
the
year
progresses.
Yeah.
And
I
think
we
actually
went
out
to
all
of our
largest
shareholders
and I'm
talking
about
major
shareholders and
I
think
it
depends
on
where
you're
domiciled, which
you
prefer
and
probably
personal
tax
situation.
I
think both
are
effective
and
I
think clearly
some
people
are
much
keener
on
one
than
the
other.
So that's
why
we're
kind
of
leaving
open
the
option
of
maybe
doing
both.
But
I
can
tell you that
from
our
five
largest
shareholders
were
all
of
the
opinion
we
should
do
dividends
instead
of
buybacks.
And
I
would
say
amongst
the
rest of
the
shareholders,
there
was
still
a
majority of
people
wanting
dividend
over
buybacks
but
we
certainly
hear
your
voices.
Share
buybacks,
especially
as
we
continue
to
think
our
shares
are
undervalued
are
a
viable
way
to
make
returns
to
shareholders, in
some
cases
without
incurring
personal
tax
liabilities.
So
there's
not
a
perfect
answer
to
this
and
I
think
we
may
look
at
doing
both,
but
if you
do
both
you're
not making
either
camp happy.
So
I
think
unfortunately
it's
a
bit of
a
lose-lose
situation,
but
again
I
think
the
majority
of
our
shareholders
that
we
communicate
with
were
still
in
favor
of
dividend
over
buyback.
As I've said there
were
a
lot
of
questions on
that,
hopefully
that tackles
that
for
today's
session.
Changing
[ph]
the
tack (00:50:24) back
towards
exploration
and
Orange
Basin,
there's
a
question
on
Block
3B/4B,
in
the
event
of
a
possible
technical
studies
on
the
back
of
Graff
and
Venus
discoveries,
is
it
feasible
to
think
about
maybe
a
well-capped well
on there
in
2024?
I
would
say
before
that.
Okay.
We
have
a
3D
covering
the
whole
block
of
3D that was shut
by
BHP that
covers
the
entire
block
that
has
never
had
a
well
[indiscernible]
(00:50:56). And
when
we
look
at
that
and
we
compare
it
to
what
we have
seen
over
the
Venus/Graff
discoveries,
we
see
very
similar
looking
prospects.
So
I
think
especially now
that the
basin has been
de-risked, I
think
we
are
very
keen
to
move
forward,
as
operator
towards
drilling
a
well
but I don't
think
we
need
[ph]
to shoot any more (00:51:15)
seismic.
I
think
we
actually
can
move
right
into
the
drilling
phase.
So
we
do
have
a
60%
partner, Ricocure,
which
is
our
local
[ph]
D&E (00:51:25)
company and
of
course
we
need
to
have
discussions
with
our
partner
Eco
Atlantic
of
the timing
of
the
funding
for
that.
My
guess
is
that the
basin is
going
to
become
a
much
more
competitive
place
but
there
maybe
other
people
outside
of
our
box –
outside
of
our
current
ownership
group
that
might
be
interested
in
coming
into
that
box
as
well.
There's
a
question
[indiscernible]
(00:51:55) about Investor
Relations
but
I'm
going
to
put
it
to
you
first,
actually
after
the
[indiscernible]
(00:51:57)
But
the question
is
what
are
your plans
for
Investor
Relations
activities
moving
forward
to
tell
the
story?
Yeah
I
think
obviously
with
COVID, we've
been
a
bit
hampered
on
going
out
and
meeting
people face-to-face.
I
think
that's
pretty
much
over
now.
I mean I just
took my
69th
commercial
flight
to
come
here
to
London
since
COVID
hit.
So
after
my
two
jabs,
my
booster
shot, it
came back
that
I
got
COVID on
New
Year's Day
this
year.
I'm
actually
feeling
quite
good
about
travel and
I
think
obviously
the
world
is
opening
up
now. I think
we
still
have
to
be
a
bit careful,
but
I
think
the
world is
ready
to
move
on.
So
I
am
on off to Oslo
tomorrow
with
the
management
team
to
go
to
the Sparebank1
Conference and to meet
with
some
individual
investors
there.
And
I
think
we're
looking to – I've been
missing
Sweden.
I'm
looking
to get
back
to Sweden
in
the
second-half
of
March. We
have
a
Town
Hall
Meeting. We
have
so
much
investors
there.
But
I
think
we
are
going to
really
start
gearing
up.
And
the
one
thing
we
hear
from
our
investors
that
we
need
to
get
out
and tell
the
story
a
little
better.
I
think
you've
got
a
lot
of
value
in
this
company
but
some
of
it is
not
that
easy
to
explain.
Our
whole
portfolio
exploration
with
[indiscernible]
(00:53:17)
just
is
a
complicated
thing on how
do we
get
value
out of
that. And
we
found
[indiscernible]
(00:53:22)
Venus
now,
what do
we
do
going
forward?
How
do we
get
value
to
the
shareholders
on that?
I
think
it
will
be
good
to
get on
the
road
and meet
people
face-to-face
and talk
these issues.
But
obviously
we've
got
a
lot
to
talk
about
now than
we
were
for
so
long
as
a single-asset
Kenyan
company. We've
go lot to talk about
in Nigeria. We've
got a
lot
to talk
about Here
I'm
talking about in
Kenya
and
hopefully
in
the
near
future
and
with
our
exploration
program
as
well.
I'm
still looking
for
acquisition.
I
think
there's
a
good
chance
in
the
first-half
of
this
year
we'll
kind
of
have
an inside
track
on
at
least one
acquisition.
So,
once
that
comes
to
fruition, we're
going
to
get on
the
road and
talk
about
that
as
well. But I
think
the bottom
line
for
Investor
Relations
is
we
need –
we've
been
a
little
bit
hampered
by
COVID
to
do
that
the
way
we
like.
But
I
think it's
time
now
to
get
out
on
the
road
and start
meeting
investments
and
explaining
our
story
a
little
bit
better.
[indiscernible]
(00:54:20)
is my
e-mail
address is
available
and I've had many,
many
good
calls
with
investors,
whether
institutional
or retail.
We
do
listen,
so
you
can send
your
comments. I
always
make
sure
that
they
get
through
Pascal
and Keith.
We
would
really
like
to
have
a
constructive
engagement with
all
our
investors
we
must have
[indiscernible]
(00:54:40). So please
don't
hesitate.
Please
reach
out.
And
even
what's
working for physical
or
in-person
if
you
want
to have
a
Zoom
or
Teams
Meeting
with
me
so
to explain
the
results
but
see
if
there's
any – I mean
whether
there are
facts
that are
not clear
to
you,
please
reach
out.
I'll
be
delighted
to
help
you
understand
it better.
And
so,
yes,
let's
move
to
the
next
question.
I
think
we
have...
One
more.
...one
more
as
we're
running
out
of
time.
It
is
on
acquisitions.
Someone
has
said
that
in
the
last
call
you
mentioned
three
deals in
the
pipeline.
Now,
you've
mentioned
two
[indiscernible]
(00:55:23)
I
would
say
having
been
doing
acquisitions for
the
last
25
years
or
so,
you
have
to
kiss
a
lot
of frogs
before
you find
a
prince.
And, yeah,
I
think
one
of
our
acquisitions
turned
out
to
be
a
frog
and
not
really
a
prince
but
we
have
a
pipeline
going
now
and
we
have
dialogue.
We
still
see
our
best
sellers
as
the
major
oil
companies,
so
pretty
much
every
major
oil
company
that
has an
interest
in
West
Africa,
we
are
in
continual
dialogue
and
we
have
two
investment
banks
working
for
us
to –
also
in
continuous
dialogue.
So
I
think
we're
well-aware
of
the
opportunities
and
I
think
the
majors
are
well-aware
of
our
desire
to
get
into
the
right
opportunities.
So,
we'll
keep
pushing
these
forward. There
will
be –
some
will
be
coming
forward and
some
will
drop-off.
But
like
I said
I
think there's
a
good
chance
to do
a
deal
even
at
today's
oil
price.
I
think
you're going
to
have
to
give
some
of
that
upside
back
to
the
sellers.
So
the
last
two
offers
we
put
in
actually
have
kickers
to
go
back
to
the
seller
that if
oil
prices
stayed
high
which
I
think
will
make
it
easier
for
them
to
do deal
in
today's
market.
But
we're
not
going to
go out
buying
things
at
$70
or
$80 oil. It's
just
not
what
we're
going
to
do.
We
still
have
$60
oil
as kind
of
our
baseline
that
we're
going
to
make
money
on
$60
oil
because while
I'm
quite
bullish
on
oil
price,
I
went
back
the last
20 years
and you
see
what
oil
price
does.
You
have to
be
[ph]
consistent (00:56:51) with oil
prices.
But
I
think
you
always
want
to have a
upside
exposure
to
them
as
well.
Well, thank
you,
Keith
and
Pascal
and
unfortunately
we're
running
out
of
time
but
we
have
a
[indiscernible]
(00:57:04).
Please
feel
free to
reach
out
to
me.
My
e-mail
and
telephone
number are on
the
bottom
of
every
press
release,
so
don't
hesitate
which
I
will
do
my best
to
answer
your
questions
as
soon
as
we
can.
On
that note,
I'll
hand
the
call
back
to
the
operator.
Thank
you.
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