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Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q3

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to the Meta Financial Group Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2021 Investor Conference Call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Following the prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, the conference call is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the call over to Brittany Kelley Elsasser, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Brittany Kelley Elsasser
Director, Investor Relations

Thank you. I would like to welcome everyone to the Meta Financial Group conference call and webcast, where President and CEO, Brad Hanson; and Executive Vice President and CFO, Glen Herrick, will discuss the results of our third fiscal quarter ended June 30, 2021. Also participating in the call is Brett Pharr, Co-President and COO of MetaBank.

Additional information, including the earnings release and investor presentation, may be found on our website at metafinancialgroup.com.

As a reminder, our comments may include forward-looking statements. Those statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual and anticipated results to differ. The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statement.

Please refer to the cautionary language in the earnings release, investor presentation and in Meta’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recent filing for additional information covering factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements.

Additionally, today, we may be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures on this conference call. References to non-GAAP measures are only provided to assist you in understanding Meta’s results and performance trends. Reconciliations for such non-GAAP measures are included within the appendix of the investor presentation.

Now, I will turn the call over to Brad Hanson.

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Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our call today. Net income for the quarter was $38.7 million or $1.21 per diluted share, compared to $18.2 million or $0.53 per diluted share generated in the third quarter last year. Various timing items including tax season delays, additional card fee income from government stimulus programs and reduced provision drove the enhanced performance year-over-year.

Year-to-date, net income was $125.8 million, a 37% increase compared to the prior year, driven primarily by the additional card fee income and net interest income from government stimulus programs, along with lower provisioning.

Our results demonstrate how Meta’s mission of financial inclusion for all is creating value for all stakeholders, our customers, our employees and our shareholders. This mission is embedded in our vision to increase the availability of financial products that offer social benefit and produce economic opportunity for people.

We empower individuals and organizations by expanding financial availability, choice and opportunity. We use our national bank charter to offer banking as-a-service or what we call sponsorship to fintechs and third-party providers, helping them access financial networks, navigate risk and compliance, and we monitor their activities to ensure quality, security and fairness across a number of relationships and a variety of products.

One example of how we empower consumers is our sponsorship of Coinbase, a fintech company working to build the crypto economy. The Coinbase card issued by MetaBank in partnership with Marqeta is a visa debit card that allows customers to instantly convert any asset in their Coinbase point -- portfolio to spend at visa accepted locations earning rewards for each purchase. Partnering with Coinbase Meta helps to empower consumer with ways to manage and spend these emerging assets.

Our mission also drives our environmental and social and governance efforts. ESG is embedded in our strategy aligning our business activities with our purpose and culture. We advanced our ESG efforts during the quarter by publishing our inaugural ESG report highlighting the efforts we have undertaken and outlining our future ambitions across five critical pillars, governance, customers, employees, the community and the environment.

As part of our ESG reporting process we also completed a materiality assessment to determine the topics that are most important to our stakeholders. This assessment will help further develop our ESG strategy, including the establishment of quantitative goals that we publish in future reports and use to guide our efforts.

Also during the quarter we launched our Community Impact Program to support the ways in which our employees and our companies show up in the communities we serve. This program includes matching gifts, paid time offs for volunteering and exploring partnerships with non-profits in which our employees can engage.

With that, I am turning the call over to Brett to share some additional thoughts.

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Brett Pharr
Co-President and COO, MetaBank

Thanks Brad. Today I would like to provide an overview of our banking-as-a-service business lines, which encompasses our payments, tax services and consumer finance activities, along with our other mission supporting business Meta Ventures.

Meta has been at the forefront of providing banking-as-a-service offering financial solutions to third-parties and fintechs, including regulatory and compliance services since 2004 when we signed our first prepaid sponsorship agreement.

Years of experience along with substantial investment in compliance, infrastructure and people that positioned Meta well to partner with numerous third-party providers. Over that time, we have achieved significant scale and developed the user-friendly infrastructure that allows third parties to choose the solutions that work best for their business needs.

We also expanded our solutions to include all facets of the payments ecosystem from issuing to acquiring in ACH and Faster Payments enablement. We have relationships with more than 30 processors and 21 credit and debit card networks, and we have launched over 9,000 prepaid and debit programs with over 50 program managers and payment service providers.

Our tax services division works with the largest tax preparation companies in the country, along with thousands of small independent tax preparers to bring necessary financial products and services to the millions of hardworking people they serve.

We enabled these companies to provide consumers with refund advanced loans and the ability for unbanked filers to receive refunds by direct deposit instead of by check. These services provide consumers with significant benefits including speed, safety and cost savings.

Our consumer finance division works with third parties to help consumer’s better control their finances with empowered spending options and reliable access to funds. We are currently piloting in the new direct line of credit, which we hope will enhance the products offered to many of our existing banking-as-a-service partners. We believe that responsible credit options are core to our mission creating pathways towards upward mobility by establishing credit histories and building credit scores.

Meta Ventures complements our banking-as-a-service activities allowing us to make direct investments and select fintechs and funds that share our social commitment and add key capabilities to the payments ecosystem or serve key consumer segments.

During the quarter we made a minority investment in Greenwood, a mobile banking platform aimed at serving the black and Latino communities. Meta Ventures has committed more than $25 million to 18 businesses and we believe our investing activities make us a more attractive partner to fintechs seeking a financial services partner that can also provide regulatory and compliance oversight.

The outlook for banking-as-a-service is robust and we are fortunate to have been able to select partners that complement our mission and create opportunities and value for consumers.

Glen, over to you to review our third quarter’s financial results.

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

Thank you, Brett. And as Brett noted, GAAP net income for the quarter was $38.7 million or $1.21 per share, representing a year-over-year increase of 113% and 128%, respectively. Our strong revenue generation included growth in card fee income and refund transfer fees compared to the same quarter last year.

Card fees benefited from increased activity related to government stimulus programs. Refund transfer fee income in this quarter was higher compared to last year, due in part to a volume shift from the second fiscal quarter because of delays in the 2021 tax filing season. As we wrap up tax season, we are pleased with the results, especially given that government stimulus programs reduced demand for the refund advance product.

Year-to-date, pre-tax net income contribution from the tax business was up 19% compared to last year. This was largely generated by our new relationship with H&R Block and we expect overall earnings from our tax business to be up even further next year. A detailed breakout of net tax product income can be found on slide 13 of our quarterly investor deck.

We are starting to see demand rebound within our working capital loan portfolio, which includes asset based lending and factoring. These grew 11% on a linked-quarter basis and 51% year-over-year. The insurance premium finance portfolio also experienced strong loan growth, increasing 21% during the quarter and 16% year-over-year.

The continued remix of the balance sheet supported net interest margin improvement year-over-year. This highlights the momentum of our efforts to grow our commercial loan portfolio and continue to replace lower return assets with higher return assets.

Expenses increased compared to the prior year, driven by increases in compensation due to a return to more normalized incentive accrual levels in fiscal year 2021, along with additional employees to support growth.

We also saw higher refund transfer expenses this quarter compared to the prior year due to the volume shift into the third fiscal quarter as a result of the delayed IRS filing date. As we start to plan for the upcoming year and our strategic priorities, we are focusing investments and further improving our technology stack to position us for future success.

We are starting to see total assets returning to expected levels allowing us to reduce our stimulus related cash holdings as consumers spend their stimulus dollars and we utilize third-party bank relationships to move deposits off balance sheet.

Going into the fourth quarter, we will likely see elevated deposits related to the 2021 advance child tax credit payments being loaded onto partner cards, similar to what we saw within the indirect impact of the previous three rounds of economic impact payments.

You will see in our earnings release that Meta is now revising its credit administration policies and completing a review of its loan portfolio to better align with OCC guidance for national banks, a process we expect will take place during the second half of fiscal 2021. We expect these credit policy revisions will have an impact on our loan and lease risk ratings resulting in the downgrade of certain credits in several categories.

We expect this process will result in setting a new baseline for portfolio metrics going forward, but it does not indicate a deterioration in expected portfolio performance. Further, these changes do not reflect an increase in credit risk for past or future periods and we do not expect any increase in losses as a result of these one-time administrative adjustments to risk ratings.

Our loan and collateral management practices have proven effective in managing losses through economic cycles over the last 20 years. The expected impact to our financial position is minimal if any including the allowance and provision impact.

As you can see, no adjustments to provision or allowance were made this quarter. We have included two tables in our earnings release that show the changes from the March quarter based on these revised credit policies.

Overall our credit metrics remained stable. Allowance for credit losses totaled $91.2 million at June 30, 2021, a decrease from the linked quarter. However, up 39% compared to the prior year driven by impacts from the pandemic, the adoption of CECL and year-over-year loan growth.

Provision expense was lower compared to the prior year due in large part to the increase in allowance as part of the company’s response to the emerging COVID-19 pandemic during the third quarter of fiscal 2020, along with strong credit performance.

In a further positive development, our theater borrower received in July over $7 million in shuttered venue operators grants funds, which they used to bring all payments current. Since June they have reported theater attendance sufficient to support all operating expenses and debt service and our outlook is cautiously optimistic.

Thank you all for joining. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open up the line for questions.

Operator

Sure, sir. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Steve Moss with B. Riley Securities. Your line is now open.

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Steve Moss
B. Riley Securities

Hi. Good afternoon guys.

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Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Hi, Steve.

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Steve Moss
B. Riley Securities

Maybe just starting here with loan demand in the pipeline, you have seen improvements in commercial finance loan growth. I am kind of curious as to how the pipeline shaking out and what your thoughts are going forward there?

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Brett Pharr
Co-President and COO, MetaBank

Well, this is Brett. First, as we noted, there’s been a dramatic increase in our asset base lending and factoring, which if you think about as the economy ramps up that makes a lot of sense, because that’s the need in the pull for working capital.

We had situations back a year ago where balances were dropping to half of available lines. Now the balances are coming back up to 85%, 90% of available lines, which is more abnormal. So seeing a lot of growth there, we have had new deal pipelines coming in there as well.

Some of the term deals, we are still doing those, the rates obviously are lower and so that it’s highly competitive, but we are having good close there. So I would say, it’s a strong in some areas and moderate in others.

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Steve Moss
B. Riley Securities

Okay. And where are our origination yields these days generally speaking?

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Brett Pharr
Co-President and COO, MetaBank

Well, I think the -- that’s a questions answered differently by each asset class. In factoring yields are 8%, 9% all the way to 12% or 14%, so pretty high. Some of our larger five-year equipment lease deals can be in the 4.5%, 5% range.

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Steve Moss
B. Riley Securities

Okay. And then in terms of just the -- just on to the card fees here, just kind of curious if you guys have quantify how much of the card fees were stimulus related and just how do we think about that growth going forward?

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Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Yeah. Hi, Steve. It’s -- that that’s difficult to quantify as a cash is fungible and so many of these stimulus funds were loaded on our partner cards such as net spend or H&R Block, it’s really hard to differentiate was it driven by the stimulus or some other spending, especially the fact that we are seeing the balances go up. So there’s -- there are holding deposits, which does not generate fee income growth for us. So we wish we knew the exact answer there. But just don’t know what -- where that’s at.

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Steve Moss
B. Riley Securities

Okay. And then, if I could just squeeze one last one in just in terms of expenses here, just kind of first quarter I think versus expectations, just kind of curious how we think about expenses now that tax is fully behind us for the third quarter?

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah. So, I think, this was a good run rate quarter for us, plus or minus $80 million outside of tax season. You will see our biggest increase year-over-year was in compensation. Yeah, we have added employees, which is variable to support our growth.

But the biggest increase in compensation was the change in incentive accruals for team members, where last year, we were taking haircuts due to the pandemic’s pretty significant ones, and this year we are accruing incentive accruals at more normal levels.

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Steve Moss
B. Riley Securities

Okay. All right. Thank you very much for all that. Nice quarter. I will step back.

B
Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Thanks, Steve.

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Brett Pharr
Co-President and COO, MetaBank

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Perito with KBW. Your line’s now open.

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Michael Perito
KBW

Thank you. Good afternoon, guys.

B
Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Hey. How are you doing?

M
Michael Perito
KBW

Good. I wanted to spend a minute on slide 12 here. You guys kind of pull out the payments growth in BaaS revenue, 82% prepaid, 8% checking, 10% banking services. I am curious if you could maybe expand on how that’s trended over the last couple years. I mean is it fair to think that the dispersion amongst that is improving or maybe not improving, but just accelerating as your type of partners diversifies? And is that a trend you expect to continue going forward putting less kind of concentration around some of the prepaid legacy relationships?

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Brett Pharr
Co-President and COO, MetaBank

Yeah. I think so…

B
Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Brett?

B
Brett Pharr
Co-President and COO, MetaBank

I think as things that are evolving here, we are seeing more opportunities arise with, in the checking and core banking kind of products and then also in our like faster money. We have talked about those. So when you are looking at revenues you are seeing banking services increased. I think that should continue as well. So I think you are calling it right.

B
Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Yeah. I would say, that’s on an absolute level. We would expect all of them to grow over time, but we would expect the checking and the banking services segments to grow faster.

B
Brett Pharr
Co-President and COO, MetaBank

And that’s a good call out. And from a revenue perspective also the banking services are and most of this is heavily fee oriented as well, right? So, especially the banking services, so we are concentrating there pretty heavily.

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Michael Perito
KBW

And then it sounds like is it, the consumer finance, which sounds like it’s kind of lending focused on financial inclusion. I mean that sounds like it’s something that’s not necessarily new, but maybe new in the way you are selling it to your fintech partner. So is that another area where maybe the growth rate going forward could look stronger than what it was historically where I think most your consumer lending was just kind of referral through partnership, correct me if I am wrong?

B
Brad Hanson
President and CEO

I think that’s an opportunity but I think that’s going to ramp-up over a longer period of time as we continue to develop those products and fill them into those other channels. We do have our partnership lending or consumer lending that we have been doing in the past and we have a pipeline there as well. So we may see consumer lending still be see some growth. But into the other channels you are talking about I think we will still take a little bit of time to develop.

M
Michael Perito
KBW

Okay. Just two more for me quick one, just to ask the card fee question [ph] if you are not willing that to comment. But just -- it was quite a bit ahead of what I was looking for. I mean any indications, a third of the way through the third quarter here. I mean is it run rating at a lower rate than that? I mean just trying to get a sense of that quarterly run rate. I know it’s hard to kind of guide to where it could go and what the long-term growth rate is. But I mean, is it fair to assume that that should step down if we are trying to make conservative kind of base case here in the fourth quarter?

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that’s fair, Mike, and Steve still on listening to that. A year ago our card fee income was around $21 million. We don’t think it was a core increase to $29 million here, but we would -- we don’t have exact numbers, but we do believe our core fee income business outside of stimulus likely grew double digits. I don’t know if that’s 10% or 18%, but perhaps, somewhere in that range.

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Michael Perito
KBW

Got it. No. That’s excellent. That’s very helpful. And then just lastly for me, I mean, obviously, it was a tremendous opportunity to partner with the treasury, but I am sure you guys are relieved to see the balance sheet kind of approach more normal levels again and capital go back off. I mean, last quarter your leverage ratio is 4.5%, by the end of the calendar year could be north of 10%. But it seems like we are approaching, if not -- pretty quickly approaching here a more normalized balance sheet and capital position, maybe you are a quarter or two out still. But just wondering, Brad, if you can just update us on, once that does happen, how should we think about capital deployment? I mean, the balance sheet shouldn’t really be growing a ton and what the fee and ROE generation you guys have, I mean you will be accumulating capital pretty quickly. Just was wondering if you would be willing to kind of refresh us on your thoughts there?

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Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Yeah. I mean, you are looking at the same things we are and capital is returning to more normal levels and we do set off a lot of excess capital over time. So, we are definitely looking at how to deploy those and we will probably use similar methods we have in the past.

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Michael Perito
KBW

So, I mean, definitely some buybacks would be a part of that equation?

B
Brad Hanson
President and CEO

That’s a good possibility.

M
Michael Perito
KBW

Okay. Excellent. Thank you, guys, very much for taking my questions. I appreciate it.

G
Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Mike.

B
Brad Hanson
President and CEO

You bet.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Frank Schiraldi with Piper Sandler. Your line’s now open.

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Frank Schiraldi
Piper Sandler

Hey, guys. Just wanted to ask...

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Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Hi, Frank.

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Frank Schiraldi
Piper Sandler

…trying to get a sense, I know it’s been asked already, but in terms of the fee income that the payments-related fee income and you noted that you guys were at $21 million a year ago. And I’d assume and ex-stimulus maybe you have got a double-digit run rate and you mentioned 18%. It’s tough to tell. But you have also inked some pretty big deals, some big partnerships over the last 12 months or so. And so I wanted, your guys thoughts on whatever that is 10%, 15%, should we expect that sort of core run rate to accelerate just given what the partnerships you guys have signed into the back half of the calendar year?

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

Calendar year 2021. I am not so sure yet. These larger partnerships take a little time to ramp up to get the distribution out there. We have been very efficient at building the pipes to the partners, but it’s also how fast they build it on their interfaces on their side as well.

So we have a really robust pipe pipeline, really pleased with the quality and the distribution that some of these new partners bring us and that’s how fast do they get market acceptance and start making headway in the market.

B
Brad Hanson
President and CEO

And I think you still have a good upside potential on the ramp going into next fiscal year and throughout next fiscal year, some of the deals we have announced recently are going through the final stages of implementation and this coincide will start to ramp up. But as you can imagine once those things start to -- once they do ramp up, they start compounding on each other and continue to increase that growth rate.

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Frank Schiraldi
Piper Sandler

Okay. And then, I just wondered, I know you guys are, higher rates would be very welcome. Any updated expectations or thoughts on what you would expect to get in a given rate move, call it 50 bps or 100 bps, any updated thoughts there?

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

Higher is better anywhere on the curve for us.

F
Frank Schiraldi
Piper Sandler

Yeah.

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

Is what I would say. Our liability side is still virtually fixed at zero. We broke out the distribution of our price resets for our loans and as we add new ones. And so anywhere across the curve is helpful, but no, we haven’t guided on a specific rate scenario.

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Frank Schiraldi
Piper Sandler

Okay. And then just lastly in terms of the, I guess, re-risk weighting of some of the loans, any -- does that, obviously, I recognize and you point out that it doesn’t reflect any deterioration in the portfolio. But just wondering if there is any other impact to operations, such as any change in risk appetites for certain loan categories and any changes to things like FDIC assessments?

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Brett Pharr
Co-President and COO, MetaBank

Yeah. So this is Brett. So none of the above. And I think the key point here is, there’s no change in our underwriting approaches here. We already had solid underwriting. Administratively there’s some procedure changes on how we will monitor on an ongoing basis and no it doesn’t impact any kind of an FDIC charge. So I -- this is truly an administrative change to sort of get us more aligned with where our regulators want and looking at applying these standards to our loan portfolio.

F
Frank Schiraldi
Piper Sandler

Okay.

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

And Frank, this is Glen, I would add -- yeah, thanks, Brett. If you look and you will see in our earnings release our past dues are actually down on a linked-quarter basis. And so this doesn’t change our expectation for the portfolio. We didn’t increase the allowance. We didn’t take additional provisions. So it doesn’t change our outlook at all nor have we changed our underwriting. This is the same underwriting that we have structurally been doing.

F
Frank Schiraldi
Piper Sandler

Okay. All right. Thank you.

G
Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

And as Brett says, there is OCC guidance on how to manage these portfolios and manage this process for commercial loan portfolios and we are just trying to make sure that our program is fully aligned with their guidance.

F
Frank Schiraldi
Piper Sandler

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of William Wallace with Raymond James. Your line is now open.

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William Wallace
Raymond James

Thanks. Most of my questions have been answered, but as a follow up to the last line of questioning. I am just curious with some of the shifts in the risk rating. I would have anticipated that just the function of the plugging in the new risk rating into the fast five models you would have seen your reserve levels had to go up?

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Brad Hanson
President and CEO

Well -- yeah. Hi, Will. It’s depends on what your expectations are at each risk rating level and there’s no one size fits all for that. And again that was all looked at, reviewed and we are more than comfortable with the allowance levels we have today.

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William Wallace
Raymond James

Okay. And what was the genesis of this kind of decision?

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

Well, I think, I mentioned. It’s just making sure we are aligned with the OCC’s guidance for commercial lending practices and portfolio management practices. And so we are just trying to make sure we are aligned with their guidance and in doing that -- I mean, here’s the thing, their guidance, primarily focuses on things like cash flow analysis and financial performance of the borrower.

We take an approach where we look at our cap -- our collateral and manage our collateral very closely. And so when you take that different analysis, for example, you could have a lease that was making payments on time for several years and because the underlying company -- even though they have never missed a payment, the underlying company is stressed financially a little bit, could fall into one of these other categories.

That doesn’t mean we expect there to be an increase in loss on that, an increased chance of loss on that specific lease. But we are using those other more, I guess, typical commercial lending methodology going forward to do these. That’s why we say it’s going to set a new base line and then we will start measuring off of that. But I don’t -- that we don’t expect to fall out at the end to be any greater than it has been all along.

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William Wallace
Raymond James

Okay. All right. Great. Thank you for that. Okay. I hate to do this, but in the interest of really beating a dead horse, with the payments revenue, you mentioned that, the balances are increasing on a lot of the partner’s cards and the spend is increasing, which is driving the fees higher. I mean, is it safe to assume that the decline to whatever the base line is going to be gradual or do you anticipate that that decline could happen in, say, the September quarter or the next one or two quarters?

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Glen Herrick
Executive Vice President and CFO

I would expect it to be gradual. The child tax credits are out there now and we are -- those are not issued -- the child tax credits that had been authorized for calendar year 2021, these six months, none of those were issued on our debit cards.

However, same issue, our partners that have GPR card programs and our consumers use them as their main checking account, they are getting the child tax credits. And so we are going to continue to see tailwinds through the rest of this calendar year then we will see what the feds do for -- what Congress does for 2022 from there.

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William Wallace
Raymond James

Okay. Okay. All right. This is kind of an esoteric question you probably not to be able to answer, but there was some press recently about a letter written to the CFPB about looking into Chime’s closure of accounts. I am curious if you can talk about the -- yeah, the decision matrix around, looking at these accounts and the decisions to close them. And does this have any impact or could this have any impact on Meta, the current kind of [ph]?

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Brad Hanson
President and CEO

We did not issue Chime and don’t have any specific information into their -- what they are looking at or how they are managing that. But we do monitor all those kinds of activities against our portfolio and make sure that we are in compliance with all required regulations and we believe that we are.

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William Wallace
Raymond James

Thank you very much.

Operator

And that concludes the Meta Financial Group third quarter fiscal year 2021 investor call. Thank you.