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Earnings Call Transcript
2020-Q1

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the presentation of INVISIO Q1 Report 2020 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today, Wednesday 6th of May 2020. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Lars Hansen. Thank you. Please go ahead.

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

Thank you very much, and welcome to our presentation of the first quarter 2020 for INVISIO. And maybe as an introduction, I would just let everyone know that at our annual meeting yesterday, it was decided to change our company name from INVISIO Communications to INVISIO, simply INVISIO. So going forward, we will only refer to INVISIO.We can report continued good growth for the first quarter and also a significant event in terms of having delivered our first Intercom systems.If we look at the numbers on Page 4, our revenue amounted to almost SEK 117 million, which was a growth of about 75% compared to last year. It is actually the highest revenue number for a first quarter in the history of the company. But we have to remember that first quarter last year was quite weak, so it is not a totally fair comparison. But we were off to a good start. Our gross margin was a little bit lower in the quarter than normal. And this is due to one particular order where we had to sell with a little lower margin due to some previous commitment with this customer. So all other deliveries during the quarter was made with gross margins above 60%. So we sometimes have deliveries of third-party products or certain one-offs where we have to accept a lower margin. But in general, our gross margin is above 60% now. And this gives us an operating margin for the quarter of about 12.3% compared to 2% in, as I said, a weaker quarter last year.We continue to invest in R&D and sales according to our plans and our strategies that I will come back to in a minute. So this has been a -- yes, pretty much a normal quarter for INVISIO. Our order book was about SEK 125 million at the end of the period. So order intake during Q1 was also reasonably good, about SEK 90 million.Turning to the next page, we can see a continued good development in sales over the last 5-year period. In fact, our growth in average have been about 20.6% in revenue. And on Page 6, we have the usual update per quarter for a longer period of time where the main point is that our order intake and sales fluctuate greatly between quarters. But once we look at the longer perspective and we calculate the rolling 12 months average, we can see a relatively stable and positive development, both in our revenue and also in the order intake. So we have also to remember that since 18 months ago, we operate a little bit differently in the sense that we have decided to keep somewhat higher stock level to be -- in order to deliver to customers a little faster, and that means that our normal order backlog is not as high as it would have been if we did not have this stock. And in the current situation, in corona situation, this stock of components and products has proven to be a good thing for INVISIO, for us to be able to still deliver timely to customers on key orders.On Page 7, we, during the quarter, received another order from the U.S. Army Security Force Assistance Brigades called SFAB, this time for about SEK 36 million, and these products will be delivered during the second quarter. This is a very prestigious customer for us. We have now continuously been delivering to them for the last 2 years, at least. And it is very good for us to see that they keep coming back with more orders, and they are apparently very pleased with what we have delivered to them so far. And the Intercom, as many of you know, is a highly prioritized new product category for us that we've been working on for quite some years. We did a new announcement of the product late last year. And we have now finalized the product. We are in the sales start up process, and we have initiated several tests around the world with key customers where we are initially trying to address those customers that already use INVISIO products in terms of our hearing protection systems.And during the first quarter, we made a delivery to a defense force in Europe. This is a customer that has participated in the development of the solution. And this order was actually received already back in 2018, so the customer has been patiently waiting to get delivery which now happened in Q1.In addition to that, we received a small order from a European special force customer. This is also a customer that is already using INVISIO's equipment. And we have a good list of current customers, existing customers lined up for testing of our Intercom system as we now roll out on a broader scale. And we will do that during 2020 and onwards. And this means continued investing in marketing and sales activities for the Intercom system. We are, as said many times, certain that the Intercom system will, over time, develop into a broader product portfolio, and it will contribute to the company's continued growth over years to come. But we also know that it takes time, and therefore, we are still cautious and say that the first orders or next orders for Intercom will probably not be until the second half of the year, and they will still be smaller orders in the beginning.So on the next page, we have a little update regarding what is affecting the entire globe right now, the COVID-19 situation. INVISIO is in a very fortunate situation that we experienced only a few negative effects of the virus. And we believe that as it looks right now, the effect on our operations is quite limited. But of course, if this turns out to be very long pandemic, we cannot rule out any changes and any more negative effects to us. But right now, we are only mildly affected. It is mainly things like trade shows that have been canceled or postponed. And of course, we don't have the possibility to visit customers as we normally do. But in a situation like this, being the market leader that INVISIO is, is an advantage. We are well known. Our products are well known, and we still have our normal contact with our customers. It is now conducted over phone and video conferences, but still, all activities are running. All our manufacturing partners are also running as close to normal as possible. And the supply chain system is well functioning. There has been some smaller delays in certain shipments from 1 region to another, but it is not more than we are able to handle and plan for. And as I said, we have a good inventory in terms of both components and finished products. So we are well prepared for handling deliveries of certain size over the coming quarters.Last but not least, INVISIO has a very strong financial position, and we will use that position over the coming period of time to reinforce our market-leading position, and we will continue to invest in our growth strategy as we have done over the past years. And the strategy, as you see on Page 10, includes a number of activities where we, first of all, want to increase our market share in existing markets, not only winning more contracts but also increasing sales to the contracts that we already have, the customers we already have. We will continue to use our innovative skills to broaden our product portfolio in both existing products, but also, as I said, in the Intercom area, where we see that turning into a full product portfolio. We will address new user groups. We have started that already in terms of focusing more on law enforcement and security, and that will increase. New geographies is also extremely important, and we have seen the first small orders from parts of Asia. And these areas will continue to play an important role for INVISIO's growth. Last but not least, our cost-effective and sustainable operations are really the foundations of how we run INVISIO, and this is a very important part of continuing to be in a good competitive situation in all markets and geographies.So in rounding off, we see 2020 as a year where we will continue to follow our established strategy. We will continue to invest in product development and organization development and especially in R&D and sales. We had a very strong 2019 with some new contracts and collaborations. And we believe that we have a good, strong foundation for continued growth.That concludes my presentation. And operator, I am ready to take questions, please.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Viktor Westman.

V
Viktor Westman
Analyst

Congrats on a solid quarter. So first, in your annual report, you wrote that military budgets are increasing. Can you just provide some more color on where you see this and how large the growth is that we're talking about here?

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

Well, yes, I think this is a clear message that we get from our sales teams around the globe without going into, and we have not quantified it or gone into details. But I think it's very clear that both in the U.S. and also in Europe, we see not only overall budgets increasing, but also the focus that countries have in the communications area is increasing. So we can see that the interest in getting new modern radio communications equipment and therefore, also our hearing protection equipment is on their radar for investments over the coming years. So it is definitely a trend, but we are not able to quantify it in numbers.

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Viktor Westman
Analyst

Yes. Okay. And in your old programs in Canada, Australia, U.K., et cetera, do you -- would you say that these rules are, in essence, finished now? Or do you think there's more come from here?

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

Yes. I mean, today, it's a little bit individual, but I think they are, as a thumb rule, they are continuing, and some will be prolonged and some will wait for a while and then maybe continue. So I think that they are all still running as far as we know. Some have been updated, like the 1 in Denmark was prolonged with another 5 years a couple of years ago. So, yes.

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Viktor Westman
Analyst

Yes. And just on the Intercom on your 2 new customers, these are the 2 first movers. I'm just trying to understand what was the deciding factor for them to be first with this? Why was it so important for these 2?

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

I think -- of course, they -- first of all, they have a long experience with our products already. And therefore, they can see the benefit that they get from the Intercom. Secondly, they were on the list of our top customers that we would like to, to start fielding with. But then also, they do have an operational need where they can see that our Intercom system will help them. So they are now buying some units to really try it out over a period of time in those operational environments. So you can call it pilot orders, if you like, but yes, they do have an operational need.

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Viktor Westman
Analyst

Is it fair to say that these customers or the SFAB will [ triumph ] over the Special Forces, the Navy SEAL Team Six or the likes of that?

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

No, I don't think that would be fair to all our other customers because I think we have many, many customers, but they are in Special Forces, and Special Forces are the ones that we have decided to address first with the Intercom. So that has also been the way we introduced our hearing protection system some years back. So this is very natural that it is the Special Forces that we address first also because they sometimes have a little shorter decision times and they can start with a small amount of products to try out in the environment. So yes, they definitely belong to the top of the line.

V
Viktor Westman
Analyst

Okay. Your last question on the inventory, if I may. I saw it increased a bit. Again, here, I assume this is related to being -- to you guys being cautious in building some inventory due to the coronavirus. Can you tell us something how you think about the inventory going forward? Will you continue to build more inventory?

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

I think we have -- we work with the inventory in a way that -- first of all, we can say that everything we have in the inventory is sellable products. We -- fortunately, there's no seasonality or color or anything that has to -- we have to account for in our business. Our products are standard products. So we can have a stock without being afraid of not being able to sell it. And then we always try to look ahead for 2 or 3 quarters and see where we think we might get orders from, and then we try to prepare for that by ordering certain components and products to have in stock so that we are prepared if those orders come as expected. And that's why our inventory will go up and down a little bit quarter-by-quarter depending on what we are preparing for. And so -- but also in this difficult situation, in these times with the corona situation, it is a huge benefit for us to have our own stock and that we are able to deliver even smaller amounts of products with a short lead time.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of [indiscernible].

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Unknown Analyst

Just a quick question on manufacturing. With your manufacturing partner, have they had any issues in terms of their operations with coronavirus or having to -- having cases of it or having to shut down at all? Can you just give us some color on that, please?

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

Okay. Good question. No. I would say we are very fortunate because we -- first of all, majority of our manufacturing is in Western Europe. And I will say we work with large, very professional contract manufacturers. And all of them very early started initiatives to be prepared for the corona situations once they heard of it. So they've all very early implemented hygiene rules and making sure everybody is sitting with a distance and so on. So the report we get now actually is that they have, in some instances, actually seen less sickness than in normal years because all the normal flus and the normal colds are nonexistent since they have implemented these hygiene rules and keeping a distance. So I would say that all our manufacturing partners are running at normal capacity as it relates to our products. They might have reduced their capacity because of some of their other customers not being in the same situation as we are. But the capacity related to INVISIO is intact.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Yiwei Zhou.

Y
Yiwei Zhou
Analyst

Lars, could you give us an indication on the public tender activities for this year, especially considering the uncertainty amid COVID-19 pandemic?

L
Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

I think that, as usual, I will be boring and say that, no, we will not talk about the coming tenders. But the only thing I can say to try to respond is that we have not seen -- we don't see any change in the tender activity as it stands today because of the corona. So for us, so far, it is still activities as usual. So no indication that anyone has canceled programs or done anything of the like because of the virus.

Y
Yiwei Zhou
Analyst

Okay. And second -- I have another question there regarding the product testing. And do you -- so could you give us an indication on what's going on in the U.S. at the moment? Is there also your salesperson cannot go into those base and help them to test a new product?

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

It's a little complex because it is different from state to state. So some states are almost open as normal, and other states are more closed. So it's a little bit different. But in general, also, many, many people have been working from home in the U.S., but the -- I would say, the feedback so far from our U.S. team is that they still have the sales meetings and calls, which is then done electronically instead of physical. But there is certain of our sales teams that are able to visit customers still as usual. And again, I think that we benefit from being the market leader because we are well known, and we are able to talk to a customer electronically and send samples as we normally do and even do some instructions and demo electronically. So we are still in a good shape.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Henrik Hviid.

H
Henrik Hviid
Portfolio Manager

Lars, Thomas, 2 questions. Could you talk a little bit how the implementation of your products in the Swedish Police office is doing? And the second question in this context is, how does the pipeline looks in the law enforcement global?

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Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

Yes. Good question. I would say that we have delivered the first shipment to Swedish Police to different locations around Sweden, and then training is ongoing. So once these different units are receiving equipment, then our team will visit and we will train or train the trainer and help them implement the products. So, so far, it is going very well. There's -- as with all types of equipment, there is always the need for training. Our products are quite advanced, and there is a need for, yes, somebody to be there and have a training session in the beginning. But so far, it's looking good. And in general, for law enforcement, as we also indicated when we did the update of the market size before Christmas, we do have a positive view on law enforcement and security going forward. We can see that there are an increasing need for our types of products that they are also getting modern radios, and they are getting more funding, and both in Western Europe, but definitely also in the U.S., there's a lot of opportunities for us in law enforcement. So we will continue to have, I would say, probably an increased focus on law enforcement going forward and making sure that we capture all the opportunities that we see there.

H
Henrik Hviid
Portfolio Manager

But you don't have a pipeline like you see here in the second half that you...

L
Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

Not in the same way because there's not -- it's not driven by large tenders. It's more driven by smaller programs and individual groups and so on. So yes, there is -- I would say that the -- when I look at the number of quotes we do to police customers globally, that is definitely increasing week by week. So the pipeline is definitely [Audio Gap] but it's not -- EUR 1 million is a large order for law enforcement at this point in time. It's not EUR 10 million orders we are looking for law enforcement in the shorter run. So -- but the pipeline is definitely there, and it is increasing week by week.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There are no further question at this time. Please continue.

L
Lars Højgård Hansen
President & CEO

So then we will conclude the session for today. Thank you, everybody, for calling in and hopefully, talk to you again at the event of our Q2 report. Thank you.

Operator

That does conclude our conference today. Thank you all for participating. You may all disconnect.

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