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Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q4

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I
Ingrid McMahon

Good

morning,

and

thank

you

for

joining

us

today.

Today's

call

is

hosted

by

Samuel

Sigrist,

CEO;

and

Frank

Herzog,

CFO.

We

had

planned

to

have

a

video

presentation

this

morning.

Unfortunately,

we

have

had

to

change

the

format

slightly

as

Samuel

is

in

quarantine.

So,

while

you

will

be

able

to

see

the

slides,

the

rest

of

the

presentation

will

be

in

audio

format.

We

will

be

taking

your

questions

verbally

after

our

presentation.

For

the

few

of

you

having

to

join

by

Vimeo,

please

submit

your

questions

in

writing.

The

slides

for

the

call

are

available

for

download

on

our

Investor

website.

This

presentation

may

contain

forward-looking

statements

involving

risks

and

uncertainties

that

may

cause

results

to

differ

materially

from

those

statements.

A

full

cautionary

statement

and

disclaimer

can

be

found

on

slide

2

of

the

presentation,

which

participants

are

encouraged

to

read

carefully.

And

with

that,

let

me

hand

you

over to

Samuel

to

begin

the

presentation.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thank you,

Ingrid.

Good

morning,

everybody.

2021

was

a

year

in

which

SIG

once

again

proved

the

resilience

of

its

business.

We

achieved growth

in

all

regions

despite

the

continuation

of

negative

COVID-19

effects.

And

we

also

successfully

overcome

supply

chain

challenges,

which

affected

most

industries.

We

continue

to

invest

in

our

manufacturing

presence

with

the

ramping

up

of

the

new

APAC plant

and

the

start

of

construction

of

our

new

plant

in

Mexico.

We

also

saw

the

fruits

of

our

significant

investments

in

R&D

with

groundbreaking

innovation

in

both

filling

machines

and

carbon

packs

with

an

expansion

of

our

alu-free

portfolio.

We

continue

to

demonstrate

our

leadership

in

sustainability

with

notably

a

significant

reduction

in

carbon

emissions.

To

take

account

of

the

current

inflationary

environment,

we

have

initiated

price

increases

to

offset

higher

cost.

Last

and

certainly

not least,

we

identified

two

acquisition

opportunities,

which

culminated

in

the

announcements

made

earlier

this

year.

With

these

acquisitions,

we

will

further

strengthen

our

company,

cementing

our

position

as

a

solutions

provider

for

sustainable

aseptic

food

and

beverage

packaging,

and

position

ourselves

for

sustained

growth

and

best

in

class

profitability

across

an

expanded

platform.

I

will

comment on

some

of

these

topics

in

more

detail

in

a

moment.

But

let's

first

take

a

look at

the

financial

performance

in

2021,

which

illustrates

the

ongoing

momentum

and

strength

of

our

aseptic

carton

business.

We

already

pre-released

the

key

numbers

on

February

1

this

year.

We

are

pleased

to

have

exceeded

our

core

revenue

guidance

with

like-for-like

growth

at

constant

currency

of

6.6%.

This

reflects

a

stronger

than

expected

fourth

quarter,

with

robust

at-home

consumption

in

Europe

and

the

Americas

and

improving

conditions

in

Southeast

Asia.

The

strong

top

line

growth

contributed

to

an

increase

in

the

adjusted

EBITDA

margin

to

27.7%,

a

record

level.

This

was

achieved

despite

a

further

negative

impact

from

currencies,

although

less

than

in

previous

years

and

higher

freight

and

raw

material

costs.

ROCE

also

reached

a

record

level

of

31%

and

free

cash

flow

of

€258

million

was

comfortably

ahead

of

last

year.

Adjusted

net income

increased

to

€252

million,

enabling

us

to

propose

a

7%

increase

in

the

dividend to CHF

0.45

per

share.

Let

us

now

look

at

the

performance

by

region.

Our

business

in

Europe

is

predominantly

in

liter-packs

and

therefore

continued

to

benefit

from home

office

working.

In

this

context,

growth

of

2.1%

for

the

full

year

may

look

modest.

But

remember

that

the

comparison

is

with

an

exceptional

2020

which

featured

consumer

stockpiling

as

well

as

increased

at-home

consumption.

And

in

fact,

2021

continues

our

track

record

of

growth

in

Europe,

which

is

a

mature

market

where

we

have

been

gaining

share.

Thanks

to

our

innovative

product

portfolio,

which

has

allowed

us

to

expand

into

new

categories

with

new

customers

and

grow

our

share

of

wallet.

Our

most

significant

win

in

recent

years

has

been

a

contract

to

place

15

fillers

with

the

German

dairy, Hochwald.

Most

of

these

fillers

were

installed

in the

course

of

2021

and

they

will

start

to

contribute

to

growth

in

early

2022, with

the

contribution

steadily

growing

as

the

fillers

ramp

up

throughout

2022.

As

anticipated

when

we

spoke

in

October,

the

Middle

East

and

Africa

business

saw

a

strong

rebound

in

the

fourth

quarter.

This

resulted

in

positive

growth

for

the

full

year

despite

significant

COVID-19

effects

and

the

impact

on

the

liquid

dairy

business

of

a

drought

in

South

Africa

in

the

first

half of

the

year.

The

underlying

growth

drivers

remained

positive

and

we

achieved

a

number

of

new

business

wins

during

the

year,

including

the

placement

of

our

first

food

filler

in

the

region.

When

we

took full

control

of

the

Middle

East

and

Africa

business,

we

talked

about

bringing

more

innovation

tailored

specifically

to

the

needs

of

consumers

in

these

countries.

And

we

have

been quick

to

put

this

into

practice

with

the

opening

in

November

of

a

new

tech

center

in

Dubai

to

support

co-development

of

products

with

our

customers.

In

Asia Pacific,

China

saw

a

return

to

more

normal

market

conditions.

Demand

for

white

milk,

which

grew

substantially

during

the

pandemic,

remains

strong

and

is

one

of

the

key

factors

behind

our

expansion

into

the

fresh

segment with

the

acquisition

of

Evergreen

Asia.

Southeast

Asia

delivered

robust

growth,

even

though

demand

continued

to

be

affected

by

COVID-19

in

many

countries.

This

led

to

a

focus

on

affordable

products,

which

we

were

able

to

serve,

thanks

to

the

flexibility

of

our

system.

The

ramping-up

of

new

fillers

in

a

number

of

countries

also

contributed

to

growth,

a

function

of

our

ability

to

continue

installing

fillers

even

during

the

pandemic.

In

the

Americas,

we

saw

a

continuing

benefit

from

the

nine

new

fillers

we

placed in

[ph]



Campo Largo (00:06:32) in

the

course

of

2020. As

these

fillers

were

largely

in

place

by

Q4

2020,

the

benefit

tapered

off

towards

the

end

of

the

year.

But

we

still

saw

solid

Q4

growth.

At-home consumption

of

liquid

dairy

and

culinary

products

remained

strong

in

Brazil

and

Mexico.

We are

also

seizing

new

opportunities

with the

development

of

categories

such

as

high

protein

drinks

and

plant-based

dairy.

In

the

US,

foodservice

sales

recovered

with

the

reopening

of

fast

food

restaurants.

Growth

in

premium

plant-based

dairy

alternatives

and

creamers

continued,

particularly

with

emerging

brands.

Returning

now

to the

topic

of

innovation.

We

are

constantly

upgrading

and

refining

the

filling

machines

we

have

in

[ph]



fill (00:07:18). But

in

2021, we

made

a

step

change

with

our

new

generation

filling

machine.

That

is

why

we

are

so

excited

about

the

launch

of

SIG

NEO,

which

took

place

last

November.

With

a

speed

of

up

to

18,000

packs

per

hour,

SIG

NEO

is

quite

simply

the

world's

fastest

filling

machine

for

family

size

carton

packs.

It

compares

with

the

top

speed

for

these

larger

packs

on

our

current

fillers

of

12,000

packs

per

hour.

SIG

NEO has

a

carbon

footprint

per

filled

pack,

which

is

25%

lower

than

existing

machines,

reflecting

low

waste

rates

and

a

30%

reduction

in

the

consumption

of

utilities.

SIG

prides

itself

on

its

system

offering.

Alongside

SIG

NEO,

we

are

also

launching

a

new,

fully

automated

sleeved

magazine

powered

by

a

robotic

arm

and

a

new

user

interface,

which

operates

the

entire

filling

line

end

to

end.

This

also

enables

digital

connectivity

with

remote

monitoring

and

serviceability.

And

of

course, we

have not

forgotten

the

packaging.

With

SIG

NEO

comes

combivita,

a

new

family-sized

aseptic

carton

pack.

Combivita

has

been

developed

following

extensive

consumer-centric

research

and

provides

new

levels

of

convenience

and

differentiation.

It

has

a

new tethered and

resealable

closure,

which

ensures

smooth

and

easy

pouring

and

is

easy

to

transport,

thereby

reducing

secondary

packaging

and

logistics

costs.

Sustainability

underlies

our

entire

carton

[ph]

offer (00:08:54),

with

our

SIGNATURE

packaging

range

in

the

vanguard

of

innovation.

We

have

just

made

another

major

breakthrough

with

the

launch

of

SIGNATURE

EVO.

Until

now,

our

aluminium-free

solutions

have

only

been

able

– available

for

milk.

Oxygen-sensitive

products

such as

juices

with

high

vitamin

C

content

have

still

needed

an

ultra-thin

aluminium

layer

to

protect

them. With

SIGNATURE

EVO,

we

have

engineered

an

aluminium-free

solution

which

can

be

used

for

juices,

nectars

and

plant-based

milks,

as

well

as

for

dairy

milk.

It

will

be

available

in

portion

packs

and

will

facilitate

the

development

of

SIGNATURE

packaging

in

the

markets

outside

of

Europe.

These

product

innovations

are

just

one

part

of

our

sustainability

journey.

Today,

we

have

published

for

the

first

time

a

combined

annual

and

corporate

responsibility

report

where

you

can

see

a

[ph]



wide (00:09:46) range

of

metrics

against

which

we

monitor our

progress.

Prior to

acquisition

of

the

Middle

East

business,

our

Scope

2

emissions

were

already

at

zero.

In

2021,

we

succeeded

in

eliminating

Scope

2

emissions

in

the

business

and

the

entire

group

is

now

at

zero.

For

all

our

operations

globally

have

also

exceeded

the

target

of

a

60%

emissions

reduction

of

Scope 1

and

2

which

was

set for

2030.

We

have

also

made

further

progress

on

our

goal

of

reducing

the

emissions

of

our

entire

value

chain

per

liter-pack.

In

total,

these

emissions,

including

Scope

3,

have

been

reduced

by

20%

compared

with

our

2016

baseline.

We

have

achieved

this

mainly

by

working

with

our

suppliers,

developing

more

efficient

filling

machines

and

innovating

our

packaging

solutions,

amongst

other

factors.

We

have

many

endorsements

from

external

rating

agencies

for

what

we

have

achieved.

But

we

are

absolutely

not

resting

on

our

laurels.

On

the

contrary,

we

will

drive

further

progress

with

a

commitment

to

best-in-class

ESG

performance.

And

this

across

the

enlarged

business

following

the

recently

announced

acquisitions. As

evidence

of

our

determination

to

go

further,

the

weighting

of

the

sustainability

metric

in

variable

remuneration

for

management

will

increase

this

year.

I

shall return

to

elaborate

on

the

acquisition

shortly,

but

first,

let

me

hand

you

over

to

Frank

for

a

more

detailed

review

of

the financials.

Frank.

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thank

you,

Samuel

and

good

morning

everybody

also

from

my

side.

I

look

forward

to

taking

you

in

more

detail

through

the

strong

financial

performance

for

2021.

These

very

good

results

are

testimony

to

the

strength

of

our

aseptic

carton

business

and

our

solid

foundation

for

the

recently

announced

acquisitions.

As

Samuel

has

detailed,

we

saw

sales

growth

across

all

regions

in

2021

and

the

like-for-like

core

revenue

growth

at

constant

currency

of

6.6%.

This

exceeded

the

upper

end

of

our

mid-term

guidance

range

of

4%

to

6%.

In

the

second

half

of

2021,

we

benefited

from

some

initial

price

increases

in

selected

markets.

The

contribution

from

the

Middle

East

reflects

the

first

time

consolidation

of

our

former

joint

venture,

which

we

acquired

at

the

end

of

February

2021.

As

a

reminder,

when

we're

showing

the

contribution

from

the

Middle

East

on

the

following

slides,

this

reflects

the

additional

revenue

and

adjusted

EBITDA

generated

by

the

former

joint

venture

in

the

period,

offset

by

the

loss

of

third

party

revenue

and

dividends

that

SIG

received

from

the

joint

venture

in

the

comparative

period.

Going

forward,

the

sale

of

the

non-core

paper

mill

in

New

Zealand

will

only

report

total

revenue

with

no

more

reference

to

core

or

non-core

revenue.

In

2022,

the

loss

of

the

paper

mill

revenue

will

be

broadly

offset

by

the

additional

two

months

of

net

revenue

effect

from

Middle

East

business.

We

will

therefore

consider

growth

in

the

Middle

East

business

as

organic

on

a

full

year

basis.

In

2021,

we

continue

to

increase

our

EBITDA

margin

by

30

basis

points

to

now

27.7%.

We

achieved

a

record

level

of

adjusted

EBITDA

of

€571

million,

a

14.5%

increase

compared

to

2020.

The

strong

revenue

growth

was

the

key

driver

of

this

EBITDA

growth,

contributing

€47

million.

With

only

minor

headwinds

from

raw

material

costs

and

production

is

our

hedging

strategy

dampen

the

effect

of

commodity

price

inflation

and

production

efficiencies

largely

balanced

rising

energy

and

freight

costs.

While

SG&A

costs

grew

in

absolute

terms,

they

declined

as

a

percentage

of

revenue

due

to

cost

discipline

and

operating

leverage.

The

net

contribution

of

€34

million

from

the

consolidation

of

the

Middle

East

joint

venture

was

another

major

contributor

to

the

EBITDA

growth.

This

is

a

one-off

effect,

but

we will

continue

to

benefit

from

the

attractive

margins

in

this

region.

FX

effects

played

only

a

minor

role

this

year.

Q4

shows

strong

revenue

growth

of

5.1%

as

the

basis

for

our

robust

finish

of

the

year.

All

regions

contributed

to

this

excellent

performance.

Looking

at

the

Q4

adjusted

EBITDA

bridge,

top

line

growth

drove

EBITDA

improvement

and

that

more

than

compensated

raw

material

headwinds.

Improvements

in

production

more

than

offset

a

slight

headwind

in

SG&A,

again,

the

first-time

consolidation

of

the

EMEA

region

resulted

in

the

step-up

of

EBITDA

from

this

region

with

attractive

margins.

There's

been

a

lot

of

discussion,

obviously,

about

raw

material

price

inflation

in

2021.

We're

able

to

contain

much

of

this

inflation

due

to

the

type

and

mix

of

our

raw

materials,

and

our

policy

to

hedge

aluminium

and

polymers.

As

you

can

see

from

the

graph,

liquid

paperboard

or

LPB,

is

the

largest

component

of

our

raw

materials

at

20%

of

2021

revenues

close

to

the

level

for

2020.

We've

multiyear

supply

agreements

for

our

LPB

that

give

us

a

high

level

of

price

visibility.

Polymers

represent

10%

of

our

cost

base

as a

percentage

of

2021

revenues

and

aluminium

represents

6%,

of

which

the

metal

component

is

only

3%.

Again,

no

material

changes

to

the

2020

levels.

It

is

our

policy

to

hedge

the

majority

of

our

polymer

and

aluminium

needs

for

a

given

year

during

the

preceding year.

We

retain

both

risks

and opportunities

on

the

unhedged

portion

of

our

requirements

as

the

year

progresses,

depending

on

the

evolution

of

price

movements.

As

we

discussed

during

the

Q3

results

call,

we

have

initiated

price

increases

to

offset

the

impact

of

higher

costs

on

our

absolute

EBITDA

in

2022.

These

annual

price

negotiations

are

continuing

during

the

first

quarter

of

this

year.

2021

was

a

year

of

continuing

investment

in

our

business.

PP&E

CapEx

increased

and

included

investments

in

the

growth

of

our

European

factories

in

the

areas

of

digital

printing

and

tooling

for

sustainable

packaging.

We

also

made

further

investments

in

the

new

APAC

plant

and

started

work

on

the

new

plant

in

Mexico.

Gross

filler

CapEx

was

also

higher,

reflecting

strong

order

flow

from

our

customers.

Net

filler

CapEx,

however,

declined

due

to

a

substantial

increase

in

upfront

cash

received

from

our

customers.

The

level

of

upfront

cash

largely

depends

on

a

geographic

split

of

filler

placements,

with

some

regions

more

likely

to

enter

into

contracts

with

higher

upfront

payments.

Because

of

the

high

level

of

upfront

cash,

total

net

CapEx

as

a

percentage

of

revenue

of

6.9%

came

in

clearly

below

the

guided

range

of

8%

to

10%.

The

numbers

of

fillers

in

the

field

increased

in

2021

by

29

net

additions

to

now

1,295.

More

meaningful,

however,

is

the

high

number

of

gross

additions

at

76.

These

new

fillers

generally

have

much

higher

output

than

the

ones

we

retire,

which

tend

to

be

less

productive

with

lower

volumes

of

packaging

material.

We,

therefore,

saw

in

2021

a

significant

expansion

of

our

filler

base, which

will

contribute

to

sustainable

volume

growth

going

forward.

Strong

working

capital

management

was

an

important

contributor

to

cash

flow

generation.

On

a

comparable

basis,

taking

account

of

the

acquisition

of

the

Middle

East

joint

venture,

net

working

capital

as

a

percentage

of

revenues,

was

more

than

a

100 basis

points

lower

than

at

the

end

of

2020.

Operating

net

working

capital

includes

volume

rebates,

which

are

a

function

of

our

strong

revenue

growth. And

it

also

showed

meaningful

improvements.

The

good

operating

performance

drove

our

strong

cash

flow

generation.

Net

cash

from

operating

activities

was

positively

impacted

by

the

growth

in

adjusted

EBITDA,

operating

net

working

capital

inflows

and

the

non-recurrings

of

refinancing-related

payments

in

2020.

Upfront

cash

is

included

in

net

cash

from

operating

activities

and

contributed

to

free

cash

flow

generation.

The

contribution

of

the

Middle

East

business

more

than

offset

the

loss

of

dividends

from

the

joint

venture.

As

a

result,

free

cash

flow

was

up

by

€25

million

and

cash

conversion

increased

from

71%

to

75%.

This

strong

cash

flow

generation

will

support

our

planned

acquisitions

and

underpins

our

confidence

in

the

continued

leverage

reduction.

We

have

a

strong

track

record

of

deleveraging

since

the

IPO

with

an

average

reduction

of

approximately

[ph]



a

quarter

turn (00:19:13)

per

annum.

In

2021,

net

leverage

declined

to

2.5

times

despite

the

acquisition

of

the

joint

venture

in

the

Middle

East,

which

had

a

net

debt

impact

of

about

€200

million. And

despite

an

increase

in

lease

liabilities

largely

related

to

the

new

Chinese sleeve

plant

and

the

consolidation

of

the

former

Middle

East

joint

venture.

Our

post-tax

return

on

capital

employed

reached

a

record

level

of

31%

in

2021.

This

is

at

our

customary

referenced

tax

rate

of

30%

to

enable

better

comparison.

At

the

actual

adjusted

effective

tax

rate

of

23.3%,

ROCE

reached

34%.

This

strong

performance

reflected

growth

in

EBITDA

and

the

contribution

of

EMEA

business.

The

high

level

of

ROCE

is

due

to

the

strong

underlying

returns

of

our

business,

especially

driven

by

the

attractive

profitability

of

our

long-term

customer

contracts.

In

conclusion,

we

delivered

a

very

strong

performance

in

2021

with

top

line

growth

of

6.6%,

a

further

EBITDA

margin

increase

of

30 basis

points

to

now

27.7%

as

well

as

strong

cash

generation.

This

is

a

solid

foundation

for our

recently

announced

transaction,

and

Samuel

will

now

provide

you

a

summary

of

the

compelling

rationale

for

the

Evergreen

Asia

and

Scholle

IPN

acquisitions.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thank

you,

Frank.

Let me

start

with

Evergreen

Asia,

which

is

an

opportunity

in

line

with

our

strategy

for

category

expansion and

enables

us

to

tap

into

a

new

pocket

of

growth

in

Asia

Pacific.

As

already

alluded

to,

demand

for

white

milk

in

China

is

growing

fast

driven

by

awareness

of

its

health

benefits.

Aseptic

remains

the

preferred

form

in

many

parts

of

the

country,

but

there

are

pockets

of

growth

for

fresh

milk

in

urban

areas.

We

see

significant

cross-selling

opportunities

and

we

will

be

able

to

strengthen

our

relationship

with

existing

customers

while

gaining

new

access

to

regional

and

city

dairies.

In

addition

to

the

top line

growth,

we

expect

to

realize

cost

synergies

in

the

amount

of

around

€6

million.

SIG

opened

its first

factory

in

China

in

2004, and

we

have

a

longstanding

focus

on

the

liquid

dairy

market.

We

are

well

able

to

leverage

our

marketing

and

technical

expertise

into

fresh

and

extend

the

shelf

life

products,

as

well

as

bringing

important

innovation

to

this

segment.

Evergreen

Asia

reported

revenue

of

€135

million

in

2021,

which

is

5%

of

the

combined

group.

The acquisition

of

Scholle IPN

will

broaden

our

leadership

in

sustainable

packaging

systems

and

solutions.

This

business,

comprising

bag-in-box

and

spouted

pouch

solutions,

has

many

similarities

with

our

own

that

make

us

very

confident

in

a

successful

integration.

Like

I

said

to

you

today,

Scholle

IPN

serves

resilient

food

and

beverage

end

markets.

It

enjoys

high

barriers

to

entry

arising

from

its

use

of

aseptic

technology

and

its

knowhow

and

IP

in

barrier

films

and

fitments.

Its

solutions

are

deeply

embedded

with

customers'

value

chain,

contributing

to

the

development

of

longstanding

customer

relationships

that

generate

recurring

revenues.

And

Scholle

IPN's

focus

on

sustainability

set

the

scene

for

the

enlarged

group

to

offer

the

most

sustainable

packaging

solutions

across

a

wide

range

of

categories

and

product

sizes.

Our

businesses

are

also

highly

complementarity. SIG

today

is

present

largely

in

the

retail

sector

whereas

Scholle

IPN

also

has

a

strong

institutional

and

industrial

presence.

Whilst

our

largest

carton

size

is

2

liters,

bag-in-box

caters

for volumes

ranging

from

above

2

liters

to

well

over 1,000

liters.

Pouches,

on

the

other

hand,

are

ideally

suited

for

very

small

sizes

of 100

milliliters

or

less,

particularly

when

filling

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(00:23:27) products.

Geographically,

Scholle

IPN

will

significantly

increase

our

US

revenues,

while

we

will

use

our

established

platform

to

expand

their

business

into

emerging

markets.

We

will

also

be

able

to

expand

their

use

of

aseptic

technology

particularly

in

pouches.

And

think

back

to

the

first

part

of

the

presentation

when

I

talked

about

the SIGNATURE

EVO,

Scholle

IPN's

barrier

film

expertise

can

accelerate

our

alu-free

journey

through

the

development

of

new

alternative

structures.

The

strong

strategic

fit

of

Scholle

IPN

with

SIG is

not

only

the

source

of

additional

growth

and

revenue

synergies.

It

is

also

the

basis

for

significant

cost

synergies

in

the

amount

of

€17

million.

Scholle

IPN

reported

revenue

of

€474

million

in

2021, which

is

18%

of

the

combined

group.

Together,

Evergreen

Asia

and

Scholle

IPN

represent

just

over

20%

of

the

group's

revenue.

SIG

aseptic cartons

will

continue

to

drive

the

group's

performance

from

a

financial

perspective

and

in

terms

of

using

our

established

platforms

to

drive

growth

at

both

acquisitions.

And

now

Frank

will

walk

you

through

the

financing

of

these

acquisitions

and

the

timeline

for

refinancing.

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thank

you,

Samuel.

As

previously

discussed,

we've

arranged

committed

bridge

facilities

to

fund

the

transactions

when

they're

expected

to

close

in

the

second

or

third

quarter.

We'll

then

have

the

flexibility

of

up

to

18-month

to

arrange

long-term

financing

whenever

market

conditions

are

suitable

to

execute

the

planned

capital

increase

of €200

million

to

€250 million

and

to

place

long-term

debt.

We

currently

have

authorized

capital

with

our

subscription

rights

equivalent

to

10%

of

our

share

capital.

This

corresponds

to

the

34

million

shares

that

will

be

transferred

to

the

owner

of

Scholle

IPN

as

part

of

the

consideration

for

this

acquisition.

At

the

AGM

on

April

7,

we'll

propose

a

replenishment

of

the

authorized

capital

without

subscription

rights

in

order

to

accommodate

the

planned

capital

increase,

which

will

take

place

in

the

form

of

an

accelerated

book

building

as

a

standard

practice

in

the

Swiss

market.

This

capital

increase

will

ensure

that

our

pro

forma

net

leverage

at

year-end

2021

following

the

transaction

does

not

exceed

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3.25

(00:25:54)

times.

Finally,

we're

pleased

to

see

that

both

S&P

and

Moody's

have

confirmed

their

respective

ratings

at

BBB minus

and

Ba1,

both

maintaining

the

stable

outlook.

This

is

a

further

endorsement

of

the

acquisitions

and

the

strength

of

the

combined

business.

Now,

moving

on

to

the

last

part

of

the

presentation.

I'll

turn

now

to

the

guidance

for

2022.

For

this

purpose,

we're

assuming

the

consolidation

of

Scholle

IPN

and

Evergreen

Asia

businesses

with

effect

of

July

1,

2022.

This

timing

could

vary

depending

on

the

fulfillment

of

the

closing

conditions.

For

the

full

year,

we

expect

revenue

growth

of

22%

to

24%

at

constant

currency,

with

growth

of

approximately

15%

due

to

the

acquisitions.

This

implies

organic

revenue

growth

for

the

standalone

aseptic

carton

business

of

7%

to

9%

at

constant

currency,

taking

account

of

continuing

volume

growth

supplemented

by

price

increases

to

offset

the

impact

of

higher

raw

material

costs.

For

the

enlarged

group,

the

adjusted

EBITDA

margin

is

expected

to

be

around

26%.

The

aseptic

carton

business

is

expected

to

deliver

an

adjusted

EBITDA

margin

at

the

lower

end

of

our

past

performance

range

of

27%

to

28%.

Considering

that

passing

absolute

cost

increases

has

a

dilutive

effect

on

margin.

In

light

of

the

current

volatile

inflationary

environment

and

the

recent

geopolitical

developments,

our

revenue

and

margin

guidance

assumes

no

major

changes

in

input

costs

our

FX

rates

from

current

levels.

Net

capital

expenditure

is

forecast

to

be

within

the

range

of

7%

to

9%

of

revenue,

reflecting

the

lower

CapEx

intensity

of

the

acquired

businesses.

We

expect

the

dividend

payout

ratio

to

be

within

or

slightly

above

a

range

of

50%

to

60%

of

adjusted

net

income

as

we

plan

to

continue

our

established

dividend

policy

of

progressive

dividend

per

share

growth

also

after

the

recent

acquisitions.

Samuel

will

now

take

you

through

the

mid-term

guidance

and

to

conclude

our

presentation.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

We

are

maintaining

our

mid-term

revenue

guidance

of

4%

to

6%

at

constant

currency, with

the

two

acquisitions

expected

to

enable

resilient

growth

in

the

upper

half

of

this

range

across

an

expanded

platform.

Both

Evergreen

Asia

and

Scholle

IPN

offer

substantial

cost

synergies,

which

together

with

the

top

line

growth

and

continued

margin

expansion

in

the

aseptic

carton

business,

we

expect

to

deliver

a

best-in-class

EBITDA

margin

of

above

27%.

Starting

from

this

year

and

continuing

mid-term,

our

CapEx

guidance

is

down

a

percentage

point

at

7%

to

9%

of

revenue,

reflecting

lower

CapEx

needs

of

the

acquired

businesses.

We

are

maintaining

our

dividend

payout

ratio

of

50%

to

60%

to

continue

the

progressive

dividend

per

share

growth.

Our

mid-term

leverage

target

of

towards

2

times

is

also

maintained

with

a

milestone

of

2.5

times

by

the

end

of

2024,

supported

by

the

strongly

cash

generative

nature

of

the

combined

business.

The

Scholle

IPN

and

Evergreen

Asia

acquisitions

increased

our

presence

in

resilient

end

markets

and

add

further

long-term

customer

relationships

supported

by

a

large

installed

base.

We

will

extend

the

reach

of

our

aseptic carton

technology

across

substrates

and

formats.

Expansion

into new

categories

has

been

a

hallmark

of

SIG's

development

to-date.

Now,

we

have

much

broader

scope

for

expansion,

including

entry

into

the

institutional

and

industrial

segment,

and

new

retail

opportunities

in

wine

and

water.

Equally, SIG

owes

its

record

of

the

vast

market

growth

to

the

decision

taken

more

than

10 years

ago

to

expand

the

business

outside

Europe.

Now,

we

have

the

opportunity

to

do

that

again

by

bringing

the

Scholle

IPN

portfolio

to

the

emerging

markets

of

Asia

Pacific,

Latin

America,

and

the

Middle

East

and

Africa.

We

will

do

this

with

the

benefit

of

many

years'

experience

and

a

strongly

established

local

presence.

We

are

committed

to

achieving

the

highest

ESG

standards

across

the

group,

and

we'll

use

our

larger

presence

to

drive

progress

in

areas

such

as

recycling.

Sustainability

will

govern

the

development

of

new

technologies,

which

will

be

able

to

deploy

– which

we

will

be

able

to

deploy

globally,

and this

is

across

substrates

and

across

categories,

building

on

our

barrier

film

capabilities

and

leadership

in

aluminium-free

solutions.

We

will

continue

to

deliver

best-in-class

financial

performance

with

resilient

growth,

expanding

margins,

and

strong

cash

flows.

These

acquisitions

strengthened

SIG

as

a

company,

cementing

our

position

in

aseptic

packaging

solutions

for

liquid,

food

and

beverage,

bringing

benefits

to

consumers,

customers

and

shareholders,

as

well

as

the

environment.

That

concludes

our

presentation.

We

are

now

happy

to

take

your

questions.

Operator

We

will

now

take

a

question

from

UBS.

J
Joern Iffert
Analyst, UBS AG

Yeah.

Hello, Samuel,

Frank,

and

Ingrid.

Thanks

for

taking

my

questions and

just

two

technical

questions, please.

The

first

one

is,

I

mean, can

you

clarify

of

Evergreen and

Scholle if

you

expect

that their

total

EBITDA

is

growing

in 2022

versus 2021,

considering

the

inflationary

environment?

And

if

they

also

have

as seasonality

on

EBITDA,

like

SIG

has

first half

or

the

second

half.

And

the second

question

please

on

your

organic

business.

Can

you

give

us

an

update

where

you

stand

on

the

price negotiations

and

has all

done

now,

and

you

can

or

have

passed

on

the

inflationary costs

already or

is there

still negotiations

ongoing,

which

will

result in

a

quite

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severe (00:32:41)

back-end

loaded

here on

EBITDA

margins

for

SIG

standalone.

Thanks

a

lot.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thanks

for

your

question, Joern.

Maybe

I

start

with

the

second

one

and

then, Frank,

you

can

cover

the

first one.

Price

increases

and price

drops as

you're

familiar with,

normally

takes

place

in

the first

quarter. They

are

well

underway

and

we

are

right

now

executing

those price

increases. It

might

be

that

one

of

the

other

drags

into

Q2,

but

so far

I

think

we

see

progress

in

line

with

our

expectations.

I think from

a

margin

seasonality

perspective,

I

think

what

you can

expect

this

year,

in

general,

from

a

seasonality

perspective,

it's

going

to

be

a year

more

in

line

with

the

seasonality.

You're

familiar

with

pre-COVID where

we

are

more

back-end

loaded.

So,

it

is

just

also

a

function

of

how

revenues

are

generated.

And

maybe on

to

first

question,

Frank?

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thank

you.

On

the

first

question

for

the

EBITDA

of

both

Scholle

and

Evergreen

Asia.

We

do

expect

growth

of

these

businesses

and

that

will

also

then

translate

into

growing

EBITDA.

We

also

talked

about

some

of

the

synergies

where

there

maybe

earlier

wins

in

the

second

half

of

the

year,

starting

already

a

little

bit.

So,

there's

[ph]



benefit

plus (00:33:58)

they

don't

have

a

particularly

pronounced

seasonality.

So,

I

think

for

that

half

year,

when

you're

trying

to

incorporate

that

into

your

forecast,

it's

probably

good

to

just

assume,

yeah,

straight

12

months

without

big

seasonality.

J
Joern Iffert
Analyst, UBS AG

Okay.

Thanks

very

much.

And

just

one

follow-up.

The

total

EBITDA

contribution

from

Scholle

and

Evergreen,

we're

speaking

around

€60

million

[ph]



than (00:34:27)

you

are

putting

in

your

guidance?

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Now,

you're

obviously

going

to

a

very

specific

number.

And

I

think

it's

probably

an

order

of

magnitude

that

wouldn't

be

mathematically

correct.

But

I

don't

want

to specifically

communicate

on

the

particular

number.

Yeah.

J
Joern Iffert
Analyst, UBS AG

Sure.

Thanks

a

lot.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thanks,

Joern.

Operator

Our

next

question

comes

from

Alessandro

at

Octavian.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

We

can't hear

you,

Alessandro.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

Can

you

hear me

now?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Now

we

can hear

you.

Good

morning.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

Sorry.

Good

morning.

Thank

you

for

taking

my

questions.

I

have

four,

if

I'm

not

exaggerating,

please.

But

they

are

quite

quick

and

I

would

like

to

go

one

by

one,

makes

it

may

be

easier.

Two

related

to

the

past

year,

the

margin

in

Americas

was

down

in

H2.

Can

you give

a

bit

of

an

indication

what

happened

there?

Why?

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Okay. Yeah,

I

think

I

mean,

you

saw

obviously

the

very

strong

growth

in

the

first

half

of the

year.

So,

I

think

that

has

an

impact

on

this.

But

overall,

we're

very

pleased

with

the

margin

development

in

the

Americas

business

and

you've

seen

the

year-on-year

important

step-up.

And

I

think

that's

really

what

we're

looking

at

that

that

this

business

is

growing

fast,

but

also

increasing

its

margin

quite

well.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

Yes.

But

it

was

really

down.

Sorry,

to

contradict

at

least

over

H1

2021.

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Yeah.

Again,

I

think

we're

very

pleased

with

the

development

there.

And

you

saw

the

strong

growth

in

the

regions.

So,

that's

where

this

is

a

region

where

we

have

had the

benefits

from

the

filler

placements

that

ramped

up

during

the

course

of

last

year.

So,

this

is

benefits

that

we

see

really

in

this

region

and

we're

very

pleased

with

it.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

I

cannot

say

I'm

satisfied,

but

I'll

leave

it there.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Yeah.

But

I think,

Alessandro, I

would

also

read

too

much

into

the

half

year

marks,

and

I

think

it's important

for

us

[ph]



as well

as (00:37:03)

we've

talked about

that

when

we

presented

2020 numbers

that

we

believe

that

we

can

get

margins

in

the

Americas

region

further after

the

hit

that

we

took

there

as

a

function

of

the

currencies.

And

I

think that's

what

we

clearly demonstrated

last

year.

And

also,

I

think

we're confident

to

continue

that path.

And

back

then

we

already

talked

about

what

are

the

levers

that

we see,

I

mean,

that

the

margin

improvement

is

definitely

a

function

of

operating

leverage

in

the

business.

But

also,

I

think,

Frank,

a

year

ago,

you

explained

that

we

have levers

to further

localize

supply,

which

we

now

see

also

the

benefits

coming

through,

and

that

explains

the

margin

improvement

also

in

the

Americas

region.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

Okay,

okay.

Let's

leave

it

there.

On

the

Middle

East,

maybe

two

questions

here.

One,

the

quarterly

development,

the

Q3

was

down

almost

20%

if

I

have

calculated

properly,

and

now

Q4

was

up

20%.

Again

there,

can

you

give

a

bit

of

an

indication

what

happened

in

that

region?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Sure.

I mean

and

we

talked

about

that,

I

believe,

on

the

Q3

call also.

So,

what

we

do

see

in

the

Middle

East,

and

I

think

you

recall

that

from

earlier

reporting

periods,

there

are

some

customers

that

have

a

bit

of

a

– for

the

lack

of

a

better

word,

lumpy,

on

their

behavior.

They

placed

whenever

they have

cash

and

whenever

central

banks

allowed

them

to

tap

into

hard

currencies

and

to

pay

in

hard

currencies

to

place

significant

orders.

And

that

can

lead

to

distortion

from

one

quarter

to the

other.

But

I

think

the

underlying

market

environment

in

the

Middle East

last

year

was

difficult.

I

mean,

COVID

did

leave

its

mark

on

our

top

line

as

a

function

of,

for

example,

schools

in

the

Arabian

Peninsula,

in

North

Africa

far

beyond

the

summer

break

remaining

closed,

and

obviously

the

schools

generate

for

us

this

juice

box

business

and

that

simply didn't

take

place.

And

then,

on

the

other

hand,

there

was

this

drought

in

South

Africa,

especially

in

the

first

and

into

the

third

quarter

where

we

just

saw

that

raw

milk

production

came

down

and

there

was

less

milk

to

pack

for

us.

[ph]

We

have

already alluded

into (00:29:17)

Q3

call

positive on

the

outlook

for

the

Middle

East,

and

obviously we

remain

positive

in

the

outlook

also

into

medium-term

as

it

is

a

very

attractive

region.

And

so

we

said

we

expect

in

the

fourth

quarter to

be

back

on

a

growth

trajectory.

But

I

mean

we

probably

have

to

admit

that

the

Middle

Eastern

growth

if

you

look

quarter-by-quarter

and

we

tend

to

look

rather

it

on an

annual

base,

but

if

you

quarter-by-quarter,

it

might

come

a

little bit more

fluctuation.

But

frankly,

it

also

comes

with

a

very

decent

margin.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

Okay. Thanks.

That's

helpful.

Can

you

maybe

indicate

if

how

the

start

was

in

the

year

or

if

we

are

going

more

towards

a

normal

business

with

probably

more

volatility,

but

more

normalized?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

I

definitely

expect

now

a

continuation

of

the

normalization

in

the

Middle

East Eastern

business

as

obviously

COVID

restrictions

have

lifted

and

we

expect

a

continuing

improvement.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

All

right.

Okay,

thank

you.

Then

I

would

like

to

move

towards

the

outlook.

Can

you

give

an

indication

about

the

magnitude

of

the

price

increases?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Yeah.

If

you

look

to the

7%

to

9%,

I

mean,

very

ballpark,

you

can

think

of

maybe

3%

to

4%

being

related

to

pricing.

You

know,

and

you

know

us

well

since

the

IPO.

We

never

have

been

very

outspoken

about

splitting

revenue

growth

into

price

mix

volume,

as

normally

volume

is

clearly

the

driver

for

our

top line

growth.

But

we

do

understand

that

we

operate,

obviously,

in

an

unprecedented

environment

when

it

comes

to

input

cost

changes.

So,

we

want

to

give

a

bit

more color

there.

So,

ballpark

I

would

say

3%

to

4%.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

All

right.

Great.

And

did

I

understand

correctly,

Frank

when

you

mentioned

that

the

price

increases

have

a

dilutive

effect

on

the

margin,

that

basically

the

combibloc

margin

is

probably

drizzling

a

little

bit

down

than

in

2022?

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Yeah.

I

think

there is

just

a

mathematical

effect

if

we're –

we're

raising

prices

in

order

to

offset

the

increase

in

raw

material

cost

and the

cost of

inflation

on

the

input

side.

And

so

mathematically,

you

will

have

a

margin

dilution

from

that.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

Right,

but

that

would

be

all

if,

let's

say

for

my

modeling

purposes.

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

That

– I mean,

we've

given

our

margin

guidance,

and

that's

where

we

see

we

get

to

the

margin

that

we

said

at

the

lower

end

of

the

range

of

27%

to

28%.

So

I

don't

know

how

your

model

works,

but

I

think

that's

an

important

effect

if

you

think

about

margin

for

next

year.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

Right.

And

my

very

last

question

on

the

15%

outlook

from

M&A.

To

understand

you

properly,

this

excludes

the

two

months

from

the

Middle

East

joint

venture?

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

That's

right,

yeah.

We

take

that

as

organic.

We

just

looked

at

this.

And

if

you

think

about

it

for

the

full

year,

we

have

the

core

and

non-core

distinction

with

the

Whakatane

paper

mill

where

we

don't

have

that

distinction

anymore.

So

there's

some

revenues

in

the

first

half

of

the

year

last

year

that

we

don't

have

this

year.

And

then

there

obviously

the

net

effect

of

– on

revenue

from

the

Middle

East

joint

venture

in

the

first

two

months

of

this

year

and

for

the

full

year

that

roughly

balances

out.

A
Alessandro Foletti
Analyst, Octavian AG

Understood.

I

give

it

back.

Thank

you.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thank

you,

Alessandro.

Operator

Our

next

question

comes

from

George

Borrows

at

BNP.

G
George Borrows
Analyst, Exane SA (United Kingdom)

Good

morning,

everyone.

Thank

you

for

taking

my

question.

My

first

is

on

the

filling

line.

So,

you

called

out

several

new

filling

line

installations,

including

the hot

cold

dairy

contracts

for

2022. Can

you

just

remind

us

what

your

typical

guidance

is

for,

say,

revenue

contribution

per

filling

line

once

fully

ramped,

and

how

the

ramp-up

curves

start to

look

in

terms

of

months,

please?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Yeah.

You're

absolutely

right.

We

talked

about

deployments

of

new

fillers

across

all

geographies, and

we

also

continue

to

look

at

filler

pipelines,

i.e.

opportunities

to

win

fillers

for

future

placements

that

are very

solid.

Now,

we

don't

tend

to

guide

in

a

relation

from

one

filler

place

this year

leads

to

revenue

of

X

next

year.

And

we

do

not

do

this

because

it's

also

not

how

we

budget

ourselves.

We

look

at

our

installed

base

and

budget

bottom

up.

And

if

you

think

about

a

filler

place

this

year

that

can

go

through

different

ramp-up

curves,

it

can

go

up

to

18, 24

months

until

the

filler

is

fully

ramped

up.

And

it's

really

a

function

of

is

it

the

growth

expansion

of

the

customer?

How

fast

is

the

customer

growing

the

new

product

where

it's

depending

on

market

excess

– success?

And

that's why

we don't

look

at

that

and

don't

guide

specifically

for

a

number

of

fillers

this

year

leads

to

growth

of

X

next

year.

But

to

give

you

a

bit

more

color

around

the

Hochwald fillers,

these

15

fillers,

they

are

now –

right

now

under

installation.

The

majority

by

far

is

now

already

in

this

new

greenfield

site,

and

they're

going

to

go

through

a

ramp-up,

and

we

expect

the

major

contribution

to

the

European

top

line

to

happen

in

the

second

and

the

third

quarter.

G
George Borrows
Analyst, Exane SA (United Kingdom)

Okay.

Thanks

very

much.

That's

useful

color.

And

in

terms

of

the

76

new

filling

lines

that

were

installed

in

2021,

can

you

give

any

detail

in

terms

of

any

of

those

that were

potentially

related

to

plastic

replacement

contracts?

I

know

you've

given

some

examples

previously

of

the

contract

[ph]

you're

delaying (00:45:07)

in

France,

for

example.

Is

there

– are

there

any

particular

filling

line

installations

that

are

related

to

plastic

replacement?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Well, yes,

they

are.

We

haven't

quantified

them.

And

I

think

from

today's

perspective,

it's

still

a

very

small

number

out

of

this

total.

But

it's

a

trend

that

continues

to

take

place.

And

I

think

we

were

on

the

last

[ph]



quarter

(00:45:31) calls

where

we're

very

outspoken

about

the

new

win

in

Japan

where

for

the

first

time,

a

co-packer

that

used

to

be

in

plastic-only

opted

for

a

carton

line.

So

it definitely

is

taking

place.

But

it's

a

fraction

of

the

total

numbers

of

filler

[ph]



that

we

replace (00:45:46)

in

a

given

year

at

this

stage,

but

it's

a

trend

that

continues.

G
George Borrows
Analyst, Exane SA (United Kingdom)

Great. Thanks

very

much.

That's

all

my

questions.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thanks,

George.

Operator

Our

next

question

is

from

Christian

Arnold

at

Stifel.

C
Christian Arnold
Analyst, Stifel Schweiz AG

Yes,

good

morning.

Can

you

hear

me?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Very

well.

Good

morning.

C
Christian Arnold
Analyst, Stifel Schweiz AG

Good

morning.

Two

question

left.

First,

maybe

on

to

Frank, and

did

I

understand

you

correctly

that

when

you

gave

the

financial

guidance

outlook

for 2022

in

terms

of

dividend

payout

ratio, you

were

saying,

yeah,

50%

to

60%

or

slightly

above?

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Yes,

let

me

take

that

first

question.

Yes,

that's

what

I

said.

Because

it's

also

important

for

us

that

we

continue

the

growth

of

our

dividend

per

share

at

the

absolute

dividend

per

share

that

we're

paying.

And

so,

depending

on

really

the

outturn,

it

could

be

slightly

above

the

60%.

And

what

I

want

to indicate

with

that

is

if

it

were

to

take

an

increase

above

the

60%

level

to

maintain

an

increase

in

the

dividend

per

share,

that

wouldn't

be

precluded.

C
Christian Arnold
Analyst, Stifel Schweiz AG

Okay.

Very

clear.

Thank

you.

And

then

on,

yeah –

on

the

Ukraine-Russia

crisis,

I

think

your

exposure

here

[ph]



says

(00:47:11) exposure

of

some

1%

to

2%.

What

do

you

expect

from

the

crisis?

I

mean, how

much

does

it

impact

you

and

as

your

customers

maybe

don't

have

now

hard

currencies

available

anymore.

I

mean,

is

your

business

paying

[ph]



to

a

stop (00:47:28)

in

these

regions

or

are

you

thinking

that it

will

be.

And

have

you

considered

this

somehow

in

your

2022

guidance?

Thank

you.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thanks

for

the

question.

Obviously,

we

are

saddened

as

I

guess

everybody

about

this

development.

I

think

with regards

to

the

implications

on

our

business,

I

think

we

can

say

they

are

very

moderate

as

you

rightly

say.

The

business

– the

combined

business

in

Russia

and

Ukraine

is

below

2%

and

they're

really –

Ukraine

is

the

minuscule

part

of

that.

We

have

a

handful

of

fillers

into

Ukraine

about

those five

fillers.

Most

of

them

were

used

fillers

that

we

deployed

there.

And

in

Russia,

we

mainly

work

with

the

big

global

brands

like

Pepsi,

Coke,

Danone.

And

we

are

right

now

assessing

with

our

customers

the

continuation

of

the

business

going

forward.

Obviously,

we

operate

as

you're

well

aware

in

the

packaging

for

the

food

and

beverage

products,

very

basic

products.

And

we

try

to

support

the

customers

in

the

market

as

long

as

we

can.

But

from

this

perspective,

it's

difficult

to

assess.

But

I

think

from an

overall

materiality,

we

don't

expect

material

impact

on

our

2021 – 2022

numbers.

And

we

have

kind

of

considered

that

also

in

our

guidance

range

as

a

function

of

the

smaller

business

that

we

have

there.

You

might

recall

we

discussed

that

a

lot

during

IPO.

We

have

partially

withdrawn

from

our

Russia

business

back

in

2014 when first

import

duties

were

put

in

place.

So,

that's

why

since

the

years,

Russia

doesn't

play

a

very

relevant

role

in

our

business.

C
Christian Arnold
Analyst, Stifel Schweiz AG

Okay.

And

the

remaining

Russian

business

is

mainly,

yeah,

linked

to

these

global

customers

as

you

said.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

That's

correct.

Yes.

That's

correct.

C
Christian Arnold
Analyst, Stifel Schweiz AG

Thank

you

very

much.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Thank

you.

I
Ingrid McMahon

We

now

have

a

question

from

Bank

of

America

via

Vimeo,

which I

will

read

out.

There

are

two

parts

of

the

question.

The

first

part

it

looks like

the

underlying

margin

of

the

core

business

was

more

around

26.2%

when

you

take

out

the

JV

effect

on

slide 16.

If

this

is

the

case,

where

do

you

see

high

input

costs

and

how

are

you

trying

to

mitigate

them

in

full year

2022?

The

second

part

of

this

question,

do

you

see

an

increased

risk

on the

energy

side

from

the

current

situation?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Frank,

do

you

want to

take

the

first

one?

F
Frank Wilhelm Herzog
Chief Financial Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

Yeah.

Let

me

take

the

first

one.

I

think

the

way

we

look

at

the

margin

is

really

what

the

business

has

delivered,

and

that

was

the

actual

performance

of

the

Mid East

joint

venture

and –

or

former

Mid East

joint

venture,

now

the

EMEA

region. There's

obviously

the

puts

and

takes

when

you

have

the

adjustments

here,

but

you

could

also

obviously

see

the

very

attractive

margin

of

the

region

there

with

31%.

So,

for

us,

the

27.7%

is

really

the

underlying

and

profitability

of

the

business

as

it

currently

stands.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

And

on

the

second

one,

the

energy

cost,

I

mean,

if

you

look

to

overall

energy

cost

in

our

business,

it's

around

1%.

So,

we

don't

expect

here

a

significant

impact

on

our

business.

I
Ingrid McMahon

Thank

you.

The

second

part

of

the

question,

would

it

be

possible

for

you

to

provide

more

details

on

the

historic

margins

of

the

acquired

businesses? It

looks

like

that

it is

not

necessarily

including

any

operating

leverage

at

this

stage,

do

you

see

scope

for

improvement?

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

I

mean, we

discussed

this

question

already

earlier,

right?

And

we

were

very

clear

that

we

buy

a business

from

a

private

owner

who

hasn't disclosed

the

financials

mainly

for

commercial

reasons

because

we

didn't

want to

have

customers

selling

all

this

transparency.

Going

forward, we're

going

to

report

the

acquired

business

as

part

of

our

regional

segment.

So

also

there

one

is

not

going

to

Scholle IPN

or

even

Evergreen

Asia

dedicated

numbers.

And

against

this

backdrop,

there

will

not

be

further

disclosure

of

historic

data.

But

we

talked

about

also,

for

example,

historic

growth

rate,

especially

in

the

Scholle IPN

case.

And

we

gave

some

additional

color

by

describing

the

business'

footprint

today.

They're

predominantly

in

Europe

and

in

the

Americas

or

North

America,

where

you

can

think

of

fair

market

growth

rate

of

rather

2%

to

3%.

Whereas

the

emerging

markets

grow

with

5%

to

6%.

So

in other

words,

given

their

footprint,

it's

a

business

that

rather

attract

these

mature

market

growth

rates.

And

we

obviously

have

the

ambition

to

bring

them

to

our

emerging

markets

platform

and

clearly

accelerate

the

growth

in

this

acquired

business

and

for

the

combined

group.

We

definitely

see

margin

expansion

potential

and

we

have

quantified

cost

synergies

of

€6

million

in

the case

of

Evergreen

and

€17 million

in

the

case

of

Scholle

IPN.

And

we

believe

this

together

with

a

continued

margin

expansion

in

our

core

business,

we

will

be

able

to

deliver

a

margin

of

above

27%.

Operator

Thank

you.

There

are no

further

questions

at

this

stage.

S
Samuel Sigrist
Chief Executive Officer, SIG Combibloc Group AG

In

this

case,

I

would

like

to

thank

you

for

participating

in

today's

call. Have

a

very

good

day

and

we

hope

to

catch

up

soon

maybe

also

on

the

road

show

that

follows

the

results

call.

Thank

you

very

much

for your

time

today.

Have

a

good

day,

everybody.

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