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Earnings Call Analysis

Q4-2023 Analysis
LATAM Airlines Group SA

LATAM Soars with Record Highs, Bullish 2024 Outlook

In 2023, LATAM celebrated a milestone year, with revenues soaring to $11.8 billion, a 24% increase from 2022. The adjusted operating margin hit a historic 11.3%, and net income reached an unprecedented $582 million. The airline expanded its market share across key regions, achieving a solid competitive position with 148 passenger destinations. LATAM's adjusted EBITDAR nearly doubled to $2.5 billion, emphasizing its sustained financial growth, culminating in a robust end-of-year liquidity of $2.8 billion. Looking forward, LATAM expects revenues of $12.4 to $12.8 billion in 2024, with an EBIT margin between 10.5% and 12.5%, and aims to maintain passenger costs per ASK between $4.3 and $4.5, alongside a healthy adjusted net leverage below 2x.

A Remarkable Recovery and Prosperous Financial Performance

LATAM Airlines Group CEO, Roberto Alvo, opened the earnings call with a sense of pride for the airline's achievements in 2023. Highlighting their ascent from a devastating pandemic and complex loan restructuring, Alvo emphasized that LATAM emerged much stronger, focusing on prioritizing people, customers, and environmental responsibility. Indeed, the company saw a record Organizational Health Index score and Net Promoter Score, underpinned by their commitment to providing a distinctive customer experience, dependability, and a strong network of destinations. The environmental commitment was also notable, with significant strides in eliminating single-use plastics and compensating carbon emissions.

Strong 2023 Financial Highlights

Financially, 2023 was a banner year for LATAM, with total revenues hitting $11.8 billion, an 11.3% operating margin, and a full-year net income of $582 million. These figures not only exceed past performance but also outperformed guidance and business plan projections established in August 2022. Notably, LATAM maintained strong liquidity with a total of $2.8 billion at year's end and achieved a remarkable adjusted leverage ratio of 2.1x. Moreover, in adherence to Chilean law, the airline must distribute at least 30% of net income as dividends, pending shareholder approval, which indicates potential returns for shareholders.

Operational Growth and Fleet Expansion

Operationally, LATAM expanded its fleet and route network significantly. With a 20.6% increase in capacity and the delivery of 30 new aircraft, the group served 74 million passengers in line with pre-pandemic levels. New and expanded routes, particularly those formed in partnership with Delta Air Lines, fueled this growth and fortified LATAM's market leadership in several Latin American countries and key international destinations. LATAM Pass, their frequent flyer program, also saw a 7.1% increase in membership, attesting to the growing customer preference.

Forward-Looking Projections for 2024

Looking ahead to 2024, LATAM projects revenue growth with estimates between $12.4 billion and $12.8 billion and anticipates maintaining a double-digit EBIT margin of 10.5% to 12.5%. The company aims to sustain its passenger cost per available seat kilometer (ASK) between $4.3 and $4.5, consistent with 2023's performance. LATAM expects a solid financial outlook with a liquidity position above 20% over the last 12 months' revenues and a reduction in its adjusted net leverage below 2x—a further indication of the airline's robust financial management and operational efficiency.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q4

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Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2023 LATAM Airlines Group Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Before I turn the call over to management, I'd like to remind you that certain statements on this presentation and during the Q&A may relate to future events and expectations, and as such, constitute forward-looking statements.

Any matters discussed today that are not historical facts, particularly comments regarding the company's future plans or objectives, our expected performance or guidance are forward-looking statements. These statements are based on a range of assumptions that LATAM believes are reasonable, but are subject to uncertainties and risks that are discussed in detail in our CMF and SEC filings.

The company's actual results may differ significantly from those projected or suggested in any forward-looking statements due to a variety of factors, which are discussed in details in our SEC filings. And if there are any members of the press on the call, please note that for the media, this is a listen-only call.

I would like to pass the call over to Ramiro Alfonsin, CFO of LATAM Airlines.

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Ramiro AlfonsĂ­n Balza
executive

Thank you, Carmen. Hello, everyone, and good morning. Welcome to our fourth quarter and full year 2023 conference call, and thank you for joining us today. My name is Ramiro Alfonsin, and I'm the CFO of LATAM Airlines Group.

Here with me today is Mr. Roberto Alvo, CEO of LATAM Airlines Group; Andres Del Valle, VP of Corporate Finance; and Tori Creighton, Head of Investor Relations. And we will present our highlights and results for the fourth quarter and full year 2023.

I'd like to pass the presentation to Roberto to set the stage of our fourth quarter and annual results.

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Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch
executive

Thank you, Ramiro, and good morning to everyone. We, at LATAM, are proud of the 2023 year's achievements. After a devastating pandemic and a loan restructuring, LATAM Group has emerged stronger than ever. This difficult period allowed us to rethink our purpose and our priorities. We decided to build upon the progress and the work of the last 25 years and devote our energy and efforts to taking care of our people, our customers and our environment, supporting the societies where we operate.

Its people is LATAM's Group most important assets and caring for them is our main priority. In 2023, the group achieved the highest-ever Organizational Health Index score in its history with 78 points. This is a result of the efforts of the group in making a more just, empathetic, transparent and simple environment for the teams and providing a sense of purpose in our everyday work.

Every day, we strive to make traveling with airlines of LATAM Group a more distinctive experience, and it's the staff, each one of them, who makes this possible. Last year, the group also attained its best Net Promoter Score, which is a measure of customer satisfaction, in its history, reaching 48 points for all travelers, 55 points for high-value customer and 58 points for our private customers. LATAM's value proposition is based around 3 main pillars: providing choice as no one else can do in the region, being the most dependable airline group, and caring for the passengers and cargo customers through the experience.

The results of this work meant that LATAM Group was recognized, again, and for the fourth year in a row, as the best airline in South America by the Skytrax's Awards and attained the second highest on-time performance for agents in the world and the best in Latin America according to OAG.

In 2021, the group committed to eliminating single-use plastics from the operations and started a long process in reducing emissions to meet a commitment of carbon neutrality by the year 2050. At the end of the year, the group achieved 96% of single-use plastic elimination and compensated more than 1.7 million tons of CO2 through CO2 [indiscernible], a project we developed together with 700 families that protects more than 550,000 hectares in the wetlands of Northeast of Colombia. That year's work was started around the next target, which is to substantially eliminate our waste to landfills by 2027.

After emerging from the pandemic, the LATAM Group network is stronger. Its hubs have gained scale and the list of destinations is larger and more diverse. The affiliates of the group had the highest market share in 3 of the 5 respective domestic countries where they operate and they are [indiscernible] in the other 2. Approximately 40% of the passengers that fly within South America do so with one or more of our affiliates. It is also the carrier with the highest market share between South America and Oceania, Mexico, and together with partnership with Delta, the largest operator between South America and the U.S. and Canada.

In cargo, LATAM is also the largest airline regional group between South America and North America. Today, LATAM is without a doubt the only one-stop group of airlines in the region. All this work has allowed us to post, as you will see in a minute remarkable financial results.

The group's 2023 financial numbers highlight the strength and resilience that it has built and lay the foundation to a future where the group has continued improving its operations and make it even a more meaningful place to work even better, more caring and more dependable experience for our passengers or current customers and a group that continues to care for the environment, contributing for the development of the people in South America and therefore, delivering consistent and strong results.

So let me take you to Slide #3. Financial and operating strength marked 2023 as a year in which LATAM Group continued to grow regionally and globally. Consequently, it achieved unprecedented results outperforming our projected guidance for 2023 and exceeding the expectations set in its updated business plan published in August 2022.

In terms of financial performance, LATAM has delivered remarkable results. During 2023, we have achieved total revenues of $11.8 billion, posting a consolidated double-digit adjusted operating margin of 11.3% and a full year net income of $582 million, the highest result achieved by LATAM Group, excluding 2022 results, which had a positive, as we know, nonoperating impact of the net income from the Chapter 11 restructuring exit.

It is worth noting that as [indiscernible] LATAM must pay out at least 30% of net income in dividends subject to shareholder approval. Regarding LATAM's balance sheet strength, it is noteworthy that the company consistently improved its standard. In this sense, it is with great satisfaction that we announced an unprecedented end of year adjusted leverage ratio of 2.1x. Furthermore, due to a resilient financial position and ability to generate cash, we have sustained a strong liquidity position, reaching $2.8 billion as of December 31, 2023, representing 23.9% over last 12-month records. In addition, we reported a competitive full-year adjusted passenger CASK ex fuel of $4.3, reflecting LATAM Group's initiatives to maintain costs.

Turning our attention to LATAM Group's operational results. Consolidated capacity measured in ASKs increased by 20.6% compared to full year 2022, in line with our 2023 guidance. And as a group, we transported 74 million passengers, reaching similar levels to pre-pandemic. The strong demand demonstrates the enduring trust and confidence that passengers have in LATAM services.

On the other hand, during 2023, the operation was also boosted by the delivery of 30 aircraft, including 5 wide-body and 25 narrow-body aircraft. LATAM Group closed 2023 with a fleet of 333 aircraft and with one of the most efficient fleet cost globally. In the year, the total fleet cash cost was $796 million. In 2023, LATAM's Group network continued to expand as the group proudly launched 21 routes, 17 international and 4 domestic, including 4 routes implemented within the context of the joint venture with Delta Air Lines. As I mentioned before, the group's domestic affiliates are leaders in 3 of the 5 domestic markets where they operate; LATAM Airlines Chile, LATAM Airlines Brazil and LATAM Airlines Peru.

On the other hand, LATAM Airlines Colombia increased its market share by quickly allocating resources to the Colombian market. And this is clear -- a clear demonstration of our operational agility and financial flexibility. On the other hand, our frequent flyer program LATAM Pass, which is a strategic asset and a core source of value that differentiates LATAM from other carriers and also a key element for making and loyalty strategy.

As of December 31 of last year, LATAM Pass had approximately 45 million members, representing an increase of 7.1% compared to 2022, which reinforces customer preference for LATAM Group, mainly driven by premium passes. The above are reflections of LATAM Group's consistent financial strength. As a result, in November, LATAM was included in the MSCI Emerging Markets Latin American Index. And this is a testament to market and investor trust in LATAM Group and highlights its ability to maintain a solid financial performance even in a challenging environment.

LATAM Group was previously included in other important indexes during the year, in particular, the IPSA in March 2023 and the FTSE in September 2023. Finally, on December 14, 2023, we published our 2024 guidance, which contains financial operational projections for this year, targeting what would be record norms. We trust that the strategies and plans that we have in place will keep us on this path, and we look forward to sharing our progress with you as we navigate the opportunities and challenges of the year ahead.

Thank you. And with that, I'll turn it back to Ramiro to continue with the presentation.

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Ramiro AlfonsĂ­n Balza
executive

Thank you, Roberto. This year marks a solid 2023 for LATAM with top to bottom line positive results. During 2023, we posted revenues of $11.8 billion, almost 24% more than 2022 and achieved a historic annual adjusted operating margin of 11.3%. Notably, our adjusted EBITDAR stood at $2.5 billion as of December 31, almost doubling 2022 adjusted EBITDAR.

We have outperformed both our 2023 guidance and our business plans by far. Additionally, our net income sets new records in LATAM's history, achieving a total of $582 million, which cumulatively differentiates LATAM from other companies. Please join me on Slide 5. In the fourth quarter of 2023, we noted $3.2 billion in revenues, 18% more than the same quarter of 2022.

Our adjusted operating margin increased 2.8 percentage points compared to the same quarter of 2022, reaching 10.8%. LATAM's Group quarterly adjusted EBITDAR amounted to $675 million, reflecting a 30% improvement compared to the fourth quarter of 2022. This figure is a testament to the company's value proposition, sustained financial stability and growth, evidenced by 9 successive quarters of positive adjusted EBITDAR, underscoring the group's robust performance and ongoing expansion.

Let's take a look at LATAM's competitive position on Slide 6. In 2023, LATAM Group grew regionally and globally, thanks to lower cost, network expansion and customer preference. As of December 2023, LATAM Group successfully operated a total of 148 passenger destinations across 26 countries. LATAM Airlines Chile, LATAM Airlines Brazil and LATAM Airlines Peru, not only have maintained their highest market share in the domestic market, but also have increased it by 2 percentage points each.

On the other hand, LATAM Airlines Colombia has increased its market share from 24% as of the fourth quarter 2022 to 33% as of the fourth quarter 2023, quickly allocating additional aircraft to accommodate capacity demand in the market. This is a clear demonstration of the group's agility and financial flexibility.

Turning to the next slide. As the largest airline -- passenger airline group in South America, we are proud to connect our region with the world through a unique and expansive network. The group has continued to be #1 in international market share with 42% within the region and also maintained its market shares from South America to the rest of the world. LATAM Group, hand-in-hand with Delta, has been able to steadily increase its capacity share, adding new routes and expanding its connectivity capabilities within the scope of the joint venture agreement with the addition of 6 new routes.

Please join me on Slide 8. The results that I just mentioned are a true reflection of the trust and confidence our passengers place in LATAM Group. This year, we were honored to have been awarded the best airline in South America, best staff, best main cabin and best business class in South America by Skytrax. Additionally, we have been recognized as a Five Star Global Airlines with the best seat comfort and the best onboard service by APEX and that the top performing airlines in terms of sustainability in Latin America, as well as seventh globally according to the recent Corporate Sustainability Assessment by Standard & Poor's.

LATAM Group's expansive network remains unparalleled in the industry. Additionally, the group has fostered ongoing passenger commercial agreements with 57 airlines and co-share agreements with 27 airlines, further enhancing the group's network and customer options. Passenger loyalty is strengthened through the frequent flyer program, which now boasts over 45 million members, making it approximately the seventh largest in the world. LATAM is also proud to announce that it was recognized as the best program of the year by the Frequent Traveler Awards in 2023.

LATAM continues to grow. We transported approximately 74 million passengers during 2023, representing an 18% increase compared to 2022 and reaching pre-pandemic levels with a particular contribution from the international segment that continues to recover with an impressive 50% more passengers than 2022. In terms of capacity measured in ASKs, LATAM registered a significant 20% growth throughout the year, in line with the updated guidance published last August. Additionally, the group ended the year with a fleet of 333 aircraft, representing an increase of 23 aircraft compared to the previous year.

This growth demonstrates the customer preference as well as the effectiveness of our cost structure and the healthy capital structure. In terms of operational performance, the group reported a consolidated passenger load factor of 83% for 2023, which is 1.8 points higher than the previous year. Consolidated revenue per ASK increased almost 11% in a context marked by passenger demand and an attractive value proposition anchored in a unique network.

Turning to Slide 10. In the fourth quarter, the adjusted EBIT margin was 10.8%, contributing to a full year EBIT margin of 11.3%, which represents a record figure of $1.3 billion. This was made possible by our unique value proposition and continually striving for cost efficiency. These cost efficiencies are in large part based on our strategic fleet negotiations carried out during Chapter 11 proceedings in favorable market conditions. Revenues increased 24% for the full year, reaching an amount of $11.8 billion, driven by the ongoing recovery of operations. Cargo revenues decreased 13% during Q4, primarily due to softened cargo yields.

It is worth mentioning that the cargo yields still remain significantly higher than pre-pandemic with a 17% increase compared to 2019 levels. In terms of adjusted operating expenses, there was an almost 15% increase during the quarter compared to 2022. This growth can be mainly attributed to an almost 15% increase in operations when measured by ASKs. LATAM managed to maintain its cost per ASK ex-fuel in line with the previous year. LATAM reported a net income of $582 million for the full year.

If we move to Slide 11, you can see that LATAM Group has a well-diversified revenue structure. During 2023, the group passenger business amounted to 87% of total revenues of which 46% stems from the international operations, 35% from the domestic airlines Brazil and 19% from domestic Spanish-speaking countries operated by other affiliates.

All these market segments experienced significant growth in the year, driven by strong demand, particularly in international operations. This diversified revenue streams serves as a key differentiating factor within the industry, providing operational flexibility to adapt to changes in market demand.

In the next slide, LATAM Group has had a solid cash generation. This is a differentiating factor within the Americas. LATAM is generating cash after investments, after growth, after interest payments and without issuing any financial debt, reaffirming once again a solid position, not only regionally but also globally.

The group generated cash amounting to almost $500 million this year, a figure that enhanced LATAM's liquidity position. Highlighting LATAM's growth investment throughout the year, LATAM allocated almost $500 million for various purposes with the strategic investments primarily directly towards cabin retrofits converting passenger aircraft into Freighters and acquire new fleet.

Once again, we are pleased to report improvements in our capital structure, noting quarter-over-quarter progress in liquidity and leverage, positioning the group in an excellent competitive position. LATAM Group presented a $2.8 billion of liquidity this quarter, representing 24% of liquidity as a percentage of last 12 months revenues, which is above our internal target of maintaining a minimum of 20%.

In terms of adjusted net leverage, the group made significant improvements, reducing it from 4x to 2.1x. With that said, as shown in the published 2024 guidance, LATAM expects its adjusted net debt to be below 2x for the current year. The current capital structure is unparalleled in the Americas, particularly in post-pandemic times.

On a related note, with regard to the company's liability management, is one of the central priorities for 2024. LATAM holds 2 senior secured notes and the 5-year Term Loan B for $1.1 billion, which were all offered as part of the exit financing process from Chapter 11 proceedings. Aside from this, LATAM maintains Spare Engine Facility that was initially issued in 2014. Taking into account the time line for debt repayment, this year brings opportunities as prepayment options at par for both the Spare Engine Facility and the Term Loan B will become available as of November 24.

Please show me on Slide 14. In 2023, LATAM Airlines Group successfully closed the year with a fleet of 333 aircraft. During the year, LATAM Group received a total of 30 aircraft, further strengthening its operational capacity. These additions included 10 A320Ceo, 8 A320Neo, 7 A321Neo and 5 Boeing 787 aircraft.

In addition to this, LATAM Airlines Group was able to complete its retrofitting plan on its entire narrow-body fleet, ensuring all planes are updated and equipped with the latest figures and cabin segmentation.

Let's move forward to Slide 15, where we can review our guidance for 2024. As indicated, LATAM expects to continue solidifying its capacity growth with a 12% to 14% increase in ASKs compared to 2023, primarily propelled by the recovery of the international sector, which is expected to grow up to 18%. In terms of LATAM's operating results, the projected revenues range between $12.4 billion and $12.8 billion.

Furthermore, the group expects to achieve once again a double-digit EBIT margin between 10.5% and 12.5%. Regarding our cost structure, the group has consistently implemented measures to enhance efficiency and drive cost optimization.

LATAM Group expects to maintain a passenger cost per ASK in line with the second half of this past 2023 year between $4.3 and $4.5. LATAM foresees for 2024, a solid financial performance supported by a liquidity position above 20% over the last 12 months revenues as well as a decrease, as I mentioned, in its adjusted net leverage below 2x.

Last but not certainly -- not least, it is important to mention that in 2023, LATAM leads the South American region is sustainability performance according to the latest Corporate Sustainability Assessment from Standard & Poor's. We are very proud of this recognition, which is a reflection of the firm's commitment to sustainability and the 3 pillars of our long-term strategy focused on climate change, circular economy and shared value.

In each of these aspects, we have had improvements during the year. And in particular, I can highlight that by the end of the year, we reached 90% reduction of single-use plastics in the group's operations. As we conclude our presentation, let's recap on the achievements of LATAM Group in 2023.

LATAM Group has important scale. The group has transported close to 74 million passengers, a number that echoes the pre-pandemic era and the increased market share in every market it operates, showcasing the trust and confidence that our customers have in LATAM.

It has been without a doubt a year of growth. Our full revenue -- our full year revenues reached $11.8 billion year-over-year growth of 24% propelled by LATAM's unique network and value proposition. LATAM Group has improved its operational efficiency and elevated the overall travel experience for customers by investing in the latest generation of aircraft and integrating a net of 23 aircraft throughout 2023.

Our financial health is robust with an adjusted operating margin of 11.3%, all while effectively managing our costs. The strength of our balance sheet and capital structure is evident with an operating cash generation of $2.3 billion and the bottom line cash generation of $500 million in 2023, culminating in a total liquidity of $2.8 billion and an adjusted leverage of just 2.1x net debt to adjusted EBITDAR.

These figures show consistent delivery and not only exceed our 2022 guidance, but also outshine the projection from our business plan. Our net income for the year stands at $582 million, the highest in the LATAM Group's history, which serves as a statement to our commitment in generating shareholder value and return. 2023 was a remarkable year, delivering outstanding operational and financial results. LATAM will continue its successful path and meet the published guidance for the year ahead, just like we did in 2023.

Thank you for your attention and trust, and let's turn it over to Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And it comes from the line of Guilherme Mendes with JPMorgan.

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Guilherme Mendes
analyst

I have 2 actually. The first one is regarding the competitive environment. If you can comment how you see competition going forward, especially in Brazil, given the Gol Chapter 11 process and also in Colombia, where you clearly have been gaining market share and if this should still be the trend going forward? Second question is regarding capital allocation. Congrats on generating cash in 2023. And then looking forward, can we start to think about a regular dividend policy or something on that front?

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Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch
executive

So I'll take the markets coming on the new capital structure. Guilherme, nice hearing from you. Thanks for being here. I think that -- as we see 2024, we were expecting to grow double digits and most of -- in total and most of the markets where we operate. We see, in general, a stable and healthy level of demand. And with respect to the competitive environment, what we've seen in terms of announcements of other carriers in the region are of a stable competitive environment in general.

In Brazil, we see that we are going to have the opportunity, I believe, to increase our market share and reinforce the network we have operating domestically, and we will certainly increase over double-digit growth in international [market] versus in total. Our Brazilian operation will grow double digits if you consider both domestic and international.

We see a little bit of higher capacity pressure on the Pacific side, particularly in Chile and in Peru. But we don't expect that, that will create significant changes with respect to our position and our markets. So we're very confident with respect to what we have built in terms of the strength of our network. So we're -- we don't have a particular concern. Colombia, we grew to, as you saw, 33% market share and we see that as a stable number throughout the remainder of the year for LATAM.

On the capital allocation and regular dividends, Guilherme, under Chilean law, we are obliged to distribute at least 30% of our net income to our shareholders always subject to shareholder approval, but that's a regulation in Chile. It has been consistent pre-pandemic in that sense, and I expect it to continue going forward.

Operator

May come from the line of Savi Syth with Raymond James.

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Savanthi Syth
analyst

I was just wondering on the passenger unit cost, if you could talk a little bit about -- it looks like you're thinking flat to up. I was wondering if you can think -- talk about like what the drivers are kind of headwinds and tailwinds on the passenger cost there? And then also just -- on the fleet side, are you expecting kind of a balanced mix between the A320s and A321s? Or will you start to see it maybe more up-gauging?

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Ramiro AlfonsĂ­n Balza
executive

Thank you, Savi. This is Ramiro. On the 321, 320, majorly when you look at our order book with Airbus, it's more into 321Neos. And we already started receiving those, and it's more biased toward that side as an aircraft. We like for our operations and [customer] ASK-wise, it's a very attractive aircraft. And I would like to highlight that deliveries for 2024 or first half of 2025 have been confirmed. So the lift that we're expecting for '24 and the next 2 years, '25 and '26 is pretty much confirmed.

On the cost pressures, we're basically seeing inflation and certainly currency fluctuations has an impact. We have been very effective on the implementation of all the initiatives that we laid out when we were doing -- when we were on the Chapter 11. We have been very vocal on those savings and those initiatives were implemented with successful results. And we have developed that muscle that we believe is going to be there also in 2024. So we're offsetting little bit the inflation and the currency fluctuations and are very, very much convinced that we're going to be able to maintain our cost per ASK in line with the second half of 2023.

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Savanthi Syth
analyst

No, it's definitely impressive performance there. And if I may take a step back on your margin, that's a really strong margin guide as well. I was curious if you could talk about maybe how much of that is driven by maybe a good industry supply-demand dynamic versus perhaps any structural changes versus where you were kind of prior to the pandemic? And maybe in the LatAm industry, if there's kind of structural changes that are driving margins higher?

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Ramiro AlfonsĂ­n Balza
executive

Let me start with that. We certainly are seeing a different industry in Latin America than pre-pandemic. We have seen certain operators that are no longer operating in certain markets. There was a little bit of consolidation. So the competitive environment is different and therefore, a little bit more stable and a little bit more balanced on the [indiscernible] demand. When we look forward down the next years, we certainly are seeing capacity being impacted by the supply chain issues and engine manufacturers issues. And we see a balanced demand supply. I'll turn it over to Roberto to complement.

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Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch
executive

Thanks, Ramiro. Savi, I think, I mean, when you put the word structural there in the question, I think that's the right angle of this question, which is what has really changed? And I think that if you see our position today, we have absolute strength and relative strength. Absolute strength clearly stemming from the number that you've seen in our cost position, our balance sheet. Our position in the market is clearly unparallel today. Nobody in the region can claim that they have a network like the one we have today and this is by far, but also a relative position. Today, our cost structure, our financial structure allows us to think about this cycle in a very different way.

LATAM can take opportunities going forward on a positive environment. LATAM can take opportunities going forward if the environment is less strong or you can see, for example, Middle Eastern issues and higher fuel price. Today, LATAM doesn't need necessarily to [indiscernible] path. We can take advantage of that relative position as well. So -- and that is a very deep structural change.

Today, we are the owners of our own destiny in the region, very few airlines in the world, I believe and claim that today and that I think puts LATAM in a very, very different way -- in a very, very different place than before the pandemic. Our margins are 4% higher than 2019 and this is despite a much higher fuel price and a significant devaluation in real versus pre -- before pandemic and the peso was probably 20% or 30% below today. So even with those headwinds, macroeconomic headwinds, we've been able to improve our results very significantly. So we're very proud of what we've done. And as we see the next month and we see a good booking curve going forward, we believe that we have navigated these 4 or 5 years and change the place [indiscernible].

Operator

And it comes from the line of Neil Glynn with AIR Control Tower.

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Neil Glynn
analyst

If I could ask 3 questions, please. The first one following from your comments on being able to act strategically. There's obviously been plenty of reports and commentary from yourselves on appetite for Gol Boeing 737. What can you say about the mechanics of how you might procure additional aircraft beyond your current fleet plan over the next few months? Then tied to that, I think I understand that you're not guiding on cash fleet costs for 2024 possibly because of some uncertainty. But can you help us understand based on the current fleet plan, how much higher cash fleet costs are likely to be in 2024 than 2023 at this point?

And then a final question. On the cargo side, your cargo load factors were back to 53% in the fourth quarter. And as you continue to grow cargo capacity with belly space, I'm interested in what you think is the right long-term load factor on expanded cargo capacity. If you look back to the first half of the last cycle, you got nearer to 60%. So interested to see your views on whether you can better fill that belly space over time?

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Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch
executive

So I'll take the first and the third question, and then I'll ask Ramiro to tackle the second one. So on fleet, I mean, I think it was important to show on that slide in the presentation that we grew our fleet by 30 aircraft and we procured 10 Ceos which were not orders of Airbus. And we've been constantly looking in the market for incremental capacity. We are aware of the, pardon -- with the engine situation at the same time and how this has evolved, unfortunately, I think it looks more challenging for carriers going forward.

And we have been very active in the market looking for aircraft [all low], okay? And what you're hearing today in the market is no different absolutely from what we have done and said throughout the last month. We issued a Loan B RFP earlier last year with respect to [indiscernible] we continue seeing that and therefore, I don't think this should be a surprise at all. And as we see a positive demand environment, we're always looking at opportunities to expand further and this is one of the beauties of our balance sheet.

With respect to the fleet, we are agnostic with respect to aircraft and operators as long as they serve the purpose for LATAM. We are A320 narrow-body operator, but we have operated 737s in the past as well, and we have a mixed fleet as you see in the [indiscernible]. So we're selling in the market all the time. And if we see aircraft that meet our needs and that are helpful for increasing and improving our network performance, we will look at those and if they make sense to LATAM, we will see it is incorporated in.

With respect to your third question on cargo, so yes, load factors are in the mid-50s. I think one of the important untold things about that is what is the right size of aircraft when you think about the freighter to the market? And LATAM's 767, which has been the backbone of our cargo fleet, I think it highlights the importance of having that right sized aircraft for this market.

Bigger aircraft like the 777, like 74, I challenge this software because our flows are not very big, okay? And the combination we have between the belly and freighter allows us to allocate our cargo capacity in a very different way than full cargo airline schedule. I think that is reasonable to think about load factors in the freighter side hovering between 50s and -- low 50s and high 50s going forward. And as we increase our international capacity, as you saw in our guidance during 2024, and that is daily capacity mostly, we shouldn't be surprised of seeing an increase on ATKs coming probably more from bellies and from freighters during 2023. Ramiro?

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Ramiro AlfonsĂ­n Balza
executive

Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Neil, for your question. Your question was regarding the fleet cash cost going forward and if we could provide a little bit of color. In 2023, we had a fleet cash cost on our 300-plus aircraft of around $800 million. This is a unique cash cost today in the industry, and it stands much from the renegotiations that we did under Chapter 11. Those negotiations were negotiations that once we lock in those price, this will also extend.

So we're going to benefit from those prices for approximately the next 7 years. As we are incorporating new aircraft, the new aircraft are, of course, a little bit more related to market prices. We also renegotiated those contracts and those deliveries under Chapter 11, but they're more linked to the current market prices. And as we go forward and incorporate those aircraft, this is going to be slightly increased. I would say that for 2024, it's going to be north of the $800 million for sure. And I would say, approximately depending on the aircraft that we incorporate and if we go to market, to which aircraft we incorporate into our fleet. But I would say, approximately $900 million is a good proxy.

Operator

It comes from the line of Andre Silveira with Bradesco BBI.

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Andre Silveira
analyst

I have 2 questions here. First, if you see an upside -- do you see an upside for yields and for the 2024 guidance given the capacity constraints in Brazil, especially considering the main competitors' situation? And my second question is, what should be the CapEx for 2024 and 2025 with the new updated fleet plan?

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Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch
executive

Andre, This is Roberto. I'll take the first question. I'll ask Ramiro to take the second. So the booking curve for the first few months of the year looks healthy, and we see healthy demand at this point in time. We just launched -- issued our guidance, and as you saw, we're not making changes to the guidance. So I think I'm not going to comment beyond that with respect to that in particular. As I said before, LATAM has the ability and is prepared to take market opportunities if they arise, and we're constantly looking for those opportunities, not in [Brazil], but in other countries as well.

And I think it's too early to anticipate any impact on the market other than the one we have already issued in the guidance. So we'll see what happens during the year, and we hope that demand stays healthy and strong as we have seen in this first couple of months of the year.

In terms of fleet CapEx for the coming years, Andre, we are receiving next year and certain aircraft from this year '24, certain narrow-body aircraft, which is going to account approximately for $500 million prefinancing of investments the coming 2 years, '25 and '26. In '26, it's a similar amount, a little north of the $500 million. You can see it in our 20-F and for the 2025, we have a little bit of a ramp-up, a little north of $1 billion in terms of investments as we are receiving approximately 12 narrow-bodies and four 787s that we have incorporated. All the figures, of course, are prefinancing. As you know we go to market, some of them are sale and leasebacks, others are operating leases and sometimes we do financial leases. So we're going to be -- it's not going to be this -- the impact on our cash flow, but these are the CapEx investments on the fleet.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And is from Jay Singh with Citi.

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Unknown Analyst

I wanted to ask, do you have any update on when you could see Level 2 ADR program launch?

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Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch
executive

Thank you, Jay. We're still assessing adequate market conditions. We'll keep the market informed once we move forward.

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Unknown Analyst

And as a follow-up, I want to ask, are there any routes that you used to serve before the pandemic that you don't serve now but might return back to later?

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Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch
executive

Jay, I think that the only long-haul route that we used to serve before the pandemic and that we're not serving is Sao Paulo [indiscernible]. For the remainder, we have pretty much -- we brought the whole network. We launched, as it was in the presentation, a few new routes under the scope of the JV, most of them being the most important one, Los Angeles to Sao Paulo. And in domestic, in general, we have retaken most of our routes. We have increased about 10 cities in Brazil on top of what we have in 2019.

And also, we are serving more cities in Colombia as we increased our size there. Last route we issued around domestic was the City of [indiscernible] in Peru, which is the destination we have there. So today, even though our capacity in terms of ASK is more or less similar in size as the one we had pre-pandemic, our network is more diverse, we have more destinations and our hubs are in general, bigger and more at scale.

Operator

I don't see any further questions in the queue. I will turn it to Ramiro Alfonsin for final comments.

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Ramiro AlfonsĂ­n Balza
executive

Thank you, Carmen, and thank you all again for joining us today. As always, our Investor Relations team is around for further questions. Have a very nice weekend.

Operator

Thank you. And with that, we conclude our call today. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect.