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Earnings Call Transcript
2019-Q1

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Eero Tuulos
Vice President of Investor Relations

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Quarter 2019 Analyst and Press Conference of Konecranes. My name is Eero Tuulos and I'm the Head of Investor Relations at Konecranes. I'm here with Panu Routila, the President and CEO of Konecranes. Panu will present the Group level highlights, followed by Teo Ottola, our Chief Financial Officer, who will then do the more detailed walk through the business areas. Now before jumping into our usual agenda, a small announcement, please mark in your calendars our next Capital Markets Day, which we are planning to host in London on November 21. More detailed invitation will follow closer to the event, but please save the date already now. And I look forward to seeing many of you there. But now, Panu, with no further ado, the floor is yours.

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Panu Routila

Thank you, Eero. You are really persistent appointing me the CFO because this was already the second time. Good morning on my behalf also, everybody. Konecranes had a good start to 2019. We continued to record strong year-on-year order growth in the first quarter; all business areas contributing to the growth. Our good order intake against weakening macro indicators demonstrates the late cyclical nature of our industrial crane business and our strong offering in certain growing industry segments. The growth was led by Business Area Port Solutions, which booked a significant order for the greenfield Hadarom container terminal in Israel, as I discussed already, in February. The order consists of a complete line of automated container cranes and software intelligence, including our own terminal operating system and equipment control system. The Hadarom project is a landmark case for Konecranes and demonstrates well our capabilities of our solutions business unit established already in last Autumn. Business Area Service continued the good execution of its growth strategy. On a comparable currency basis, order growth in Business Area Service was close to 4% in Q1. In addition, the annual value of the agreement base increased sequentially by approximately EUR 9 million, although a part of this was due to a positive currency effect. In Business Area Industrial Equipment, the strong year-on-year order growth was driven by industrial cranes across all regions. We made good progress towards our post-integration targets in the first quarter. Sales grew by double-digit percent, reflecting the order growth we already saw last year. Our synergy savings program continues to progress well, which along with the operating leverage resulting from higher sales volume is reflected in the Group adjusted EBITA margin that improved to 6.4%. And finally, our overall demand environment remains on a healthy level and we have reiterated our financial guidance for 2019. Let's then look at our key figures a little bit more in detail, while Teo Ottola will actually go the business areas more closely. Orders received in the first quarter totaled approximately EUR 848 million, representing an increase of approximately 24%. On a comparable currency basis, Group sales grew approximately 11% year-over-year in Q1. The consolidated adjusted EBITA increased by approximately 30% to EUR 48.3 million and the adjusted EBITA margin improved to 6.4%. Free cash flow in the period was EUR 28 million positive. Net debt increased approximately 24% or EUR 125 million due to the adoption of IFRS 16 lease standard. As usual, Teo will give more detailed walk through all the business areas, but couple of points to be highlighted here. First, the improvement in the adjusted EBITA margin was particularly strong in the Business Area Service, where the adjusted EBITA margin reached 15.7%, up by 3 percentage points from the year ago period. The improvement in service was largely due to the operating leverage resulting from the higher sales volume. We expect the sales growth in service to slow down in the coming quarter slightly, which will also affect the rate of the adjusted EBITA margin improvement. We do believe though in the long-term growth of the Service business, which is enabled by the Demag acquisition. Second, the adjusted EBITA margin in the Industrial Equipment was 0.3% in the first quarter, which is clearly below the year-ago period. This was primarily due to the costs related to the optimization of our manufacturing network, weaker mix within our process crane business as well as U.S. customs tariffs. The negative impact related to the U.S. custom tariffs will likely persist for the time being. In addition, the activities related to our manufacturing optimization will likely create additional cost to us still until the year-end, but after that will be gone. That said, we expect the adjusted EBITA margin in Industrial Equipment to improve in full year 2019 compared to 2018. And finally, the order growth in Business Area Port Solutions was very good in the first quarter at approximately 46%. Activity in the world's manufacturing sector was weak in the first quarter, although still remained in the expansion zone. Growth recorded in the U.S. was clearly higher compared to Eurozone, where the manufacturing operating conditions fell below the 50 mark for the first time since June 2013. The manufacturing capacity utilization in the U.S. declined in Q1, while staying approximately flat in Europe. As for the emerging markets, operating conditions in China improved for the first time since November 2018. After the slowdown in early-2019, Russia's manufacturing PMI picked up in March to its highest level since January 2017. In Brazil and India, manufacturing operating conditions improved throughout the first quarter. While the global container throughput index has declined since its all-time high in late-2018, it still remains on a good level. In February 2019, global container throughput decreased by approximately 1% year-over-year. Despite weakening global macro indicators, our own overall demand environment within the industrial customer segments is stable and continues on a healthy level. Also, global container throughput is still on a good level even with its decline in the beginning of 2019. Consequently, the prospects for orders related to the container handling remains stable. Our order book for 2019 is strong and we expect to reach 5% to 7% guidance range for the year-on-year sales growth in the full-year. Furthermore, we continue to expect an improvement in the Group adjusted EBITA margin in 2019 compared to 2018. Integration of MHPS continues to progress well and according to our plans. The program is nearing its end in Business Area Service and we are also close to our target for the overall procurement savings. While we have completed many key synergy areas, a few important items remain in Business Area Industrial Equipment. First, our focus on product platform harmonization continues. Our long-term target is to reduce the number of platforms down to 11 to 14, from the current 20. In addition to cutting existing overlapping platforms, we will also launch completely new products. As the result, our plan is to centralize the manufacturing of certain products to fewer sites. Second, the optimization of our manufacturing operations is still ongoing in Wetter, Germany; and Vernouillet, France. While good progress has been made in Wetter, we are still in discussions with the employee representatives on the potential closing of the factory in Vernouillet. The targets and expectations regarding our EUR 140 million synergy savings program remain unchanged. On a run rate basis, we reached EUR 126 million of the total EUR 140 million synergy savings target in Q1. Cumulatively EUR 92 million of the amount was already visible in our P&L at the quarter-end. Furthermore, EUR 133 million of our total restructuring cost estimate was booked at the end of Q1.Let's then continue with a few more words on the Group's financial performance in Q1. As already mentioned, our order intake in the first quarter was very strong overall. Order intake grew in all Business Areas and in all 3 regions. With comparable currencies, Group sales increased approximately 11% year-on-year; also sales grew in all Business Areas and in all regions. The value of the order book at the end of March totaled nearly EUR 1.9 billion, which is our record high and approximately EUR 160 million more than at the start of the year. With comparable currencies, the value of the order book increased 17% from the year-ago period. The order book increased also in all 3 different Business Areas. It is good to note that slightly less than EUR 100 million of the increase in the order book will be recognized as revenue during the financial year 2019, while the remainder will be recognized in the subsequent years. Group adjusted EBITA increased to EUR 48.3 million and the adjusted EBITA margin to 6.4%. The improvement in the Group adjusted EBITA was mainly thanks to volume growth and synergy cost-saving measures. On a year-on-year basis, the Group level gross margin stayed approximately flat. And finally, a couple of words on sales by Business Area and by region. On a comparable rolling 12-month basis, the split of the Group sales between the Business Areas and 3 geographical regions has remained roughly unchanged from the previous quarter. Each Business Area contributes approximately 1/3 of the Group sales, with approximately half of the sales coming from EMEA, 1/3 from Americas and the rest from APAC. With that, I hand over to Teo for a more detailed walk-through through the Business Areas.

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Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

Thank you, Panu. And as usual, let's start with the Service business. Service order intake in the first quarter was EUR 255 million, that is 7% higher than a year ago. Currencies benefited us this time, so we got a tailwind as a result of that one. And with comparable currencies, the order intake growth was 3.8%. Order intake increased both in field service and parts. However, in the modernization business, order intake declined year-on-year. And if we exclude this project-based business, the modernizations from the order intake, so actually the order intake would have grown by almost 6% with comparable currencies in Q1 versus Q1 2018. Order intake also increased in all 3 regions. Sales were EUR 297 million. There is an increase of 8.4% with comparable currencies. Naturally, field service and part sales increased both of them, but also now in the first quarter, part sales outperformed that of field service, then giving us a little bit better mix from the margin point of view than a year ago. Sales also increased in all 3 regions. Adjusted EBITA for Service, EUR 46.8 million, 15.7%, a very nice improvement both in euros and margin. This is naturally mainly attributable to the volume growth as well as the synergy cost savings. Gross margin improved as a result of these items; and of course, the slightly improved sales mix also supported the EBITA development. Then when we take a look at the order book on agreement base, so actually the order book reached EUR 234 million. It is up both year-on-year as well as sequentially despite the good sales in the first quarter. Order book increase in comparable currencies year-on-year was 5.5%. And also the agreement base, which is very important for us going forward naturally as a base of our growth potential, so that also continued to increase to EUR 253 million is the agreement value at the end of Q1. That is an year-on-year growth of 5% with comparable currencies and a sequential increase of a bit more than 2% with comparable currencies. So all-in-all a very good quarter from the Service business overall.Industrial Equipment and Industrial Equipment order intake, order intake reached EUR 321 million, with the total orders. And then when we take a look at the external orders from external customers, that actually builds better off the market demand that we're seeing, so there we reached EUR 276 million and also actually an increase of roughly 17% with comparable currencies. The increase came from process cranes, from standard cranes, but only the component order intake actually declined year-on-year. Also the component order intake increased sequentially. So in comparison to the fourth quarter, we actually increased the order intake, but the first half of 2018 for component orders was good and the comparables as such a little bit tougher. Then when we take a look at the sales, EUR 275 million altogether. And again, the external sales that are decisive for our profitability within the Industrial Equipment, EUR 234 million, showing an increase of 4.5% which is approximately EUR 10 million. The adjusted EBITA was EUR 0.8 million and the percentage 0.3%. So there is a clear decline both in euros as well as in percentage, despite somewhat higher external sales. Panu already referred to the reasons. There are 3 to 4 main reasons. One of them is the integration project related operational extra costs that we have not booked as adjustments and are burdening the result. The other one is the particularly process crane margin erosion, so gross margins have been on a lower level than a year ago. And the third one is then the tariff related costs particularly between China and the U.S.. And also maybe as a fourth technical reason, as you can see, so the first quarter of 2018 actually was good. It was better than our second quarter in 2018. So also from the profitability point of view, the comparables were a bit tough in the first quarter. When we take a look at the order book, so it reached EUR 639 million. There is an increase of 17.4% with comparable currencies. So we are on a good level when it comes to the order book. Port Solutions and Port Solutions order intake, that was EUR 330 million. It's a very handsome growth of 46%, like Panu mentioned. So we have a one big Hadarom container terminal order impacting that one also a big one for RTGs in the U.S.. And then if we take a look at the other business units, particularly the lease trucks, so there we also had order intake growth both year-on-year and sequentially. Then when we take a look at the port service, so there actually we are a little bit behind in an year-on-year comparison even though sequentially there we are also on the same level as we have been. So also Q1 2018 for port service was a good, good quarter. So there also the comparables are maybe a bit tough. Mobile harbor crane business, order intake was down in an year-on-year comparison. But overall, of course, as discussed, a very good order intake for Port Solutions. Sales did also well, EUR 242 million, that is an increase of 20% with comparable currencies, particularly RTG deliveries were high in the first quarter, generating a high sales revenue. Then when we take a look at the adjusted EBITA, so that was EUR 10.6 million or 4.4%. There is an improvement both in euros and margin. This is mainly as a result of the higher volume, of course, the synergy cost savings as well. Gross margin actually declined a little bit in an year-on-year comparison, but the volume improvement was more than enough to compensate for the gross margin slight decline. And then the order book in the Port Solutions, that looks very good. We have reached the level of more than EUR 1 billion, also increased year-on-year is very high 20%. And as we can see from the column, so the order intake in the fourth quarter of 2018 as well as in the first quarter of 2019 has been very good and the order book has been increasing as a result of those very high order intake quarters. Then still before going into the Q&A, a couple of comments on balance sheet and cash flow as normally let's start with the net working capital that was EUR 425 million at the end of the first quarter. So now during the past year, the net working capital has been relatively stable, also naturally the relation to rolling 12-month sales has been relatively stable at 13%; and now at the end of Q1, 13.1%. The free cash flow for the first quarter was EUR 28 million and for the rolling 12 months, it reached about EUR 100 million. And now of course, the net working capital didn't really create any major change for the first quarter cash flow as net working capital development was pretty flat. When we then take a look at the gearing and net debt, so here we actually have the same impact that Panu already briefly mentioned. So despite a positive cash flow in the first quarter, our net debt seems to have increased. This is as a result of the IFRS 16 lease standard, where the lease liabilities have been taken to the balance sheet and the impact to the Group is approximately EUR 125 million, as a result of that change. And then it naturally impacts our gearing as well. Capital employed and return on capital employed or particularly the return has been developing little by little in the right direction as a result of the profitability improvement. So with those words, we can move into the the Q&A session.

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Eero Tuulos
Vice President of Investor Relations

All right. Let's start by taking questions from the audience. So [indiscernible] not here, so let's start by Erkki -- well, Antti, you can go first. You got the mic.

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Antti Kansanen

It's Antti from SEB. The first question is on Industrial Equipment and on the EBITA. Could you please quantify the effects from the higher temporary operational costs and the tariffs and what kind of a figure should we expect for the coming quarters this year?

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Panu Routila

I will firstly comment a few words and then Teo may comment that he's not commenting too much on the numbers. The nature of these optimization or cost of the optimization of the manufacturing footprint are of temporary nature. They are likely to continue about until the year-end, when we actually do the changes in the manufacturing footprint. And that is the major part there. Then the other one already named process crane margin situation and then U.S. customs. Teo, how much do you want to open up?

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Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

Maybe not as much as you would like to hear, but maybe some. So there are 3 different items. And if we take a look at the tariffs first, so that is the smallest one of those. And now, the tariff impact can be some millions on a yearly basis, which -- and maybe a little bit more in relation to in Q1 because some of the mitigating activities will be done during the year, but that is not a major cost as such. Then the 2 other ones are bigger ones and there we are talking, on a quarterly basis, we are talking about several millions per explanation topic. So these 2, the operational costs, and then the, let's say, margin difference in Q1 compared to the margin that we had in Q1 2018.

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Panu Routila

What is to be noted is actually in this manufacturing optimization is that, we have a clear plan, we are executing the plan. It is to be noted also that these are the costs that may not be booked as restructuring costs. Therefore, they are of a nature of being temporary now during this year.

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Antti Kansanen

And then should we then assume that the P&L impact from the synergies rest of 2019 is mostly will it be Industrial Equipment division line or what kind of assumption should we made on that one?

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Panu Routila

Well, we have said that we have -- we are keeping the EUR 140 million overall plan. We have never really divided it into between the different Business Areas, but we already said here earlier today that majorly the Business Area Service has been already majorly done and before I also explained that Ports Business Area majorly done.

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Antti Kansanen

Okay. Then maybe on the demand trends, very strong external order growth in Industrial Equipment. Could you comment on which industries or regions did you see the best development in the process cranes? And then, secondly, the component orders decline, should we read something into that as a leading indicator or as a trend or is it just a single quarter with difficult comparison figures?

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Panu Routila

The first maybe commenting the overall demand environment, I think, like we said also in the report that we are pretty strong in certain industry segments and that has actually helped us, maybe to name, for instance, paper and pulp, maybe steel industry and maybe also waste to energy industries, those have been rather strong in this one. Now, what comes to the component, it was slightly lower now but still actually sequentially upwards and I wouldn't read too much into that yet at the moment. So the sales funnel looks pretty good on the components as well.

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Antti Kansanen

Okay. And then maybe a final question on the factory in France that you are now looking into restructuring, how many people work there currently?

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Panu Routila

The negotiation is concerned about 100 people.

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Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

Maybe as a continuation to what you asked about the synergies, et cetera, so especially if we take a look at the remainder between EUR 126 million and EUR 140 million, which is the run rate -- missing run rate still. So a vast majority of that would be Industrial Equipment, so maybe 75% to 80% or so would be Industrial Equipment. There you are correct. Then when taking a look at the demands and Panu commented the industry segments, but maybe a little bit on the geographical area. So the Northern American situation from the industrial crane point of view, seems to be quite okay. From the European perspective, let's say, Germany is a little bit of a question mark. Eastern Europe seems to be doing pretty okay, the Nordic countries are pretty okay and then France is actually pretty okay, U.K> has been weakish for us. Then when we take a look at the Asia-Pacific, so now some people have been commenting China having been doing better. We have not clearly seen that yet. So we can say that China is roughly on the same level as it has been, but it hasn't deteriorated either. So this is in a way, as a summary, this is mostly from the industrial equipment or industrial crane point of view, where it, at least to a large extent, may be applicable to the Service business as well.

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Erkki Vesola
Analyst

Yes, it's Erkki from Inderes. Couple of questions from me as well. Coming back to Industry Equipment, considering that the additional costs that we're talking about will be there for the rest of the year, what gives us you guys the confidence that the EBITA margin will improve?

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Panu Routila

Well, the plan -- the order book and what we know what we are going to execute later this year gives us the confidence that we are going to still exceed the EBITA margin that we had last year.

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Erkki Vesola
Analyst

Okay. Then about Industrial Equipment, you said the demand remains in a healthy level. What should we read into this? Does it mean flat sales or something else?

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Panu Routila

Well, maybe not going too much into that, but saying that the healthy level continues, even though the macro indicators show some weakening in the world, we can't really see that too much in our numbers. So the healthy level stable, maybe slight increase.

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Erkki Vesola
Analyst

So flat plus would be the interpretation?

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Panu Routila

That's your definition.

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Eero Tuulos
Vice President of Investor Relations

Any further questions from the audience or? If not so, let's then take questions from the telephone lines. Operator, please go ahead.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will now take our first question from Manu Rimpela from Nordea.

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Manu M. Rimpelä

My first question would be on the Industrial Equipment. Could you just double-check whether you said about the cost impacts for this is year? So you said that the tariffs were a couple of millions for the full year, then you talked about the closure cost being a few million per quarter and then you mentioned a few million per quarter for the mix impact as well. So was that only for Q1 or was that for the full-year that we should expect the mix impact?

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Panu Routila

If we start with the tariff, so there the comment was that the tariff impact for the whole of 2019 will be some millions, which means that, of course, on a single quarter basis, it is not a huge number, even though maybe Q1 has a higher impact than some of the other quarters because we have time to do some mitigating activities. Then, when we discussed about the 2 other reasons, the extra operational costs as a result of the integration activities and then the margin difference in comparison to the situation a year ago. So there, on a quarterly basis, so for Q1, we are talking about several millions per case.

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Manu M. Rimpelä

Okay. And if I may, on that mix in Q1, so was that only a Q1 issue or is that an issue for the whole of 2019 that the mix will be weaker?

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Panu Routila

When we talk about the margin erosion, so it's a combination of mix and project execution, if you may say so. So there are both items included and this is now, let's say, year-on-year comparison Q1 to Q1 and we do not expect a similar weak impact for the quarters to come.

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Manu M. Rimpelä

Then my next question would be on the services and the operating leverage you have achieved in the last 3 quarters has been exceptionally strong at 40%, 45% drop-through from sales. And is there any reason why that type of a drop-through should not continue for the remainder of 2019?

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Panu Routila

Well, the sales growth was particularly strong now in the quarter, it was like 11%. Now, we have said that we expect, let's say, around 7% sales growth in the Service business. We believe that this is coming through. It's majorly coming from the acquisition. We have the huge Demag installed base, which we are attacking, that's giving us, for years to come, a lot of work. We have to remember that it takes some time to train the people, it takes also some additional cost to train the people, to convert, first, the customers into the agreement base, and then over the time actually this agreement base gives the adjacent business which typically has been with the multiplier 2x to 4x. So this will -- is this going to happen in the future? Now, this quarter was particularly strong and that's why the EBITA margin climbed to very high. We said that we expect the rate to slightly go lower in the sales growth, and that will have a small effect also in the EBITA margin. Though in the long run we expect that our operating leverage is on a good level, and actually continues to increase in the overall EBITA margin as such.

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Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

There is maybe one additional thing that once can mention and it is in relation to the synergy savings. And now what we have been commenting regarding the Service and the synergy savings is that Service obviously has been doing the integration may be a bit quicker than the other BAs, which means that the impact of the cost synergy savings will be fading away from Service sooner than from the other BAs. So now that we have been able to enjoy that in the quarters in the past, so this may give a little bit, let's say, a lower impact going forward and there is maybe a small reason for caution regarding this one. It is not a huge impact, but a point to be taken into consideration.

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Manu M. Rimpelä

Okay. And then maybe you talked a bit about the structural long-term growth potential in the Services business, but how about the margin side? I mean, we come a long way in a couple of years on the margin front in Service already. And if you look at some of your Swedish best-in-class capital goods companies, they post Service margins in the plus-20% range. So do you see -- and Demag, you acquired also had margins in the 20% range. So do you see kind of any fundamental reason why we wouldn't potentially be able to reach that type of levels in the medium future?

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Panu Routila

So we said in our Capital Markets Day one-and-a-half years ago that our target is in the high-teens. Now, in the post-integration target period, we don't see actually any reason why it can't even climb higher.

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Manu M. Rimpelä

Okay. And final question.

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Panu Routila

Of course, we need positiveness.

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Manu M. Rimpelä

And final question on the port order outlooks. I mean we've seen very strong activity, but how is the, kind of, pipeline looking? Do you have any large orders in the pipeline or at least one of your competitors commented that there is no more large orders in the pipeline?

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Panu Routila

Well, typically, we have had one of these bigger orders per year. Now, we have had actually very -- in a very short time period, 2 bigger orders and that has benefited us. I would not start to argue here publicly when next one comes. And we have some under negotiation, but as said before, it's very difficult to exactly time when do they come and what is the timing, all those. I think we are now concentrating majorly this year now in the small-to-medium sized orders.

Operator

We'll now take our next question from Sebastian Growe from Commerzbank.

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Sebastian Growe
Analyst

Two questions from my side. The first one is on Service. And Panu, you hinted to slightly slower sales growth from the strong level of 12% in quarter one for the next quarters. Could you just give us sort of an idea of what would be a reasonable growth rate assumption for fiscal 2019 as a whole? Is that more tilted towards the 4% order growth that we did see in the first quarter here? And along those lines, can you also comment on the quality of that expected sales growth from Demag's installed base, i.e., regarding the mix for spare parts sales versus field services? That would be the first one. And the second one is on Industrial Equipment and on the footprint adjustments that you're currently carrying out and that's from my point of view simply going on faster than expected. Is this the right way to look at things that is this all against the background of coming up with these new products faster than you eventually had planned earlier on or is there any other explanation for that stronger cost that are related to these footprint adjustments?

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Panu Routila

Okay. Firstly, talking about the sales growth in the Service business, we have not given any guidance on exactly what the Business Area growth in sales would be. We are not going to do that now either. We do believe actually that this continues the sales. It is largely upon us to carry it out. So we are very confident that we will reach it. Now the order intake was around 4% and we have to remember that in what is coming to the sales, there is also, in addition, the agreement base that never flowed through the order entry. So the order received are separately from the agreement base and those 2 actually together make the sales growth in the quarters and years to come. So we are very, very happy with what we've reached now in the first quarter as such. Now, the sales was somewhat higher in the growth. We expect that to be slightly lower in the coming quarters as we already said. This Demag sales opportunity and Demag opportunity that continues to come, we are continuing to be very confident on that as well, and the reason being we see what is happening there in the market, we are capturing that. It takes little time, as I already mentioned that we train the people, we convert the customers the agreement base and then actually during the time we then actually make also the adjacent business with those customers. So it takes some time and we never promised that it will be a fast one. It will take years, but it is very steadily coming. The question regarding the Industrial Equipment footprint, this is now going through the planned timetable as well. We have said already earlier that we have product group and product harmonization to be done. We are going down with number of platforms and we are actually unifying these platforms. It's a very important part of the work what we do in our product management. The platforms are used across all the different brands what we have, so that will actually, in the future, give us huge benefits to be able to use the same platforms across the different brands. Now, this is timed for this year, the footprint optimization. It has proved out to be a slightly more cumbersome in France; in Germany, we reached an agreement with the labor union and workers council quite well for the overall agreement last year and now we are detailing the plans what we are doing in Wetter in Germany. And the process goes through now in France with the legal ways how it is carried out in France.

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Sebastian Growe
Analyst

And then would these planned adjustments have any impact on the magnitude of the margin expansion for the Group as a whole that you had planned for? And I think on the last conference call you said we should eventually take the prior years at the yardstick, which was always 100 basis points or even higher than that as a margin expansion, how should we think about that?

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Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

We are not really commenting the impact of these topics separately to the margin expansion. So the margin expansion potential is as a whole and then, of course, we are doing all the activities that we need to do to be able to manage that as well as we can.

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Sebastian Growe
Analyst

Okay. But directionally, would it be, at least, from the general trend, the right assumption to say you're eventually doing better simply in Service and this is what finally paced in the faster adoption so to speak of the plan concept at the Industrial Equipment set along the lines, the right way of thinking?

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Panu Routila

That's a fair conclusion.

Operator

We'll take our next question from Magnus Kruber from UBS.

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Magnus Kruber
Associate Director and Research Analyst

Panu and Teo, Magnus here from UBS. A couple of questions. First on the Service side, you have seen a couple of quarters in the row with improving industrial service contract base value. Could you favor us with an assessment of how the growth rate compared between the legacy Konecranes business and Demag?

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Panu Routila

Due to competition reasons, we are not commenting exactly how that is between those. We can just say that we are very happy with the speed we are actually capturing this Demag installed base. The contract base is actually a very important base for the growth of the Service business that gives us the base to work well.

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Magnus Kruber
Associate Director and Research Analyst

Perfect. Thanks a lot. And coming back to -- and also to the question you get before. You talked about the multiplier of 2x to 4x on the revenue side. Could you just give some more color on exactly what you meant there?

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Panu Routila

Well, typically when you have a service agreement, it gives you the umbrella agreement with a certain customer and typically then it gives with the multiplier of 2x to 4x, 3x to 4x adjacent business like more, let's say, other products -- other service products, maybe some spare parts in addition and higher value differentiated products as well.

Operator

We will take our next question from Julia from Goldman Sachs.

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Julia Kochendoerfer
Business Analyst

It's Julia from Goldman Sachs. I have one question. Could you let us know how much of the Demag fleet is now percentage wise Service compared to what you had when you started the acquisition?

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Panu Routila

Can you repeat the question please?

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Julia Kochendoerfer
Business Analyst

How much of the original Demag fleet is now been service? How much has this grown?

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Panu Routila

That is a number we are not publishing at the moment due to competition reasons.

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Julia Kochendoerfer
Business Analyst

Okay. Fair enough. And in terms of the restructuring, can you give us kind of a timeline when are you expecting to have resolved the issues in France?

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Panu Routila

There is a legal process that continues about until the year-end.

Operator

We'll now take our next question from Leo Carrington from Credit Suisse.

L
Leo Carrington
Research Analyst

Two questions; both probably housekeeping I suppose. The IFRS 16 effect you mentioned, did this have any material impact on your profitability metrics and cash flow in the quarter?

T
Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

It has an impact on the P&L from the point of view that it actually lowers other expenses by roughly EUR 34 million, and then it increases our depreciation by about EUR 31 million. So there is an impact on EBITDA level, if you want to take a look at that one. And then the remainder, the EUR 3 million, between EUR 34 million and EUR 31 million, so this is then going to be booked in interest expense. So it basically improves the EBITA or EBIT number with roughly EUR 3 million on an annual basis. It does not have to begin with an impact to the cash flow statement because these are leasing agreements, and the nature of the agreement as such doesn't change. What changes is the handling of it in accounting.

L
Leo Carrington
Research Analyst

And in terms of the, sort of, recognition of that EUR 3 million delta on a quarterly basis, is it roughly evenly spread through the year?

T
Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

It is evenly spread throughout the year, yes, correct; roughly evenly spread.

L
Leo Carrington
Research Analyst

And second question, unrelated, the 28% tax rates that you reported in Q1, is that a sort of fair assumption for full-year?

T
Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

By definition, that is the fair assumption for the full-year because the system is so that we estimate the tax rate for the full year and then we are using that throughout the year, and change if need be on a quarterly basis. And as for 2018, so also for 2019, probably the biggest impact or biggest item that might be moving this up or down is then the restructuring costs and whether they happen in the places where we can deduct those in taxation or where we do not want to book a deferred tax asset. So it's actually the timeline that we are thinking for tax deductibility in the countries where the restructuring takes place that is the biggest uncertainty item in the tax rate.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will now take our next question from Manu Rimpela from Nordea.

M
Manu M. Rimpelä

In terms of the order backlog and your sales guidance, so could you just help us to understand how much did you expect to deliver from the backlog in sales in 2019? And it seems you have a couple of bigger port orders there, which will drag over several years.

T
Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

We haven't -- on a quarterly basis, we haven't built down the order book for the different years directly. But the way to take a look at that is that if we -- if you take a look at the increase in the order book and compare that to the situation one year ago, so the difference is roughly EUR 300 million in the order book. Out of this EUR 300 million, EUR 100 million or slightly less than that is something that will be in a way impacting 2019 versus 2018. So we have given the delta even if we do not give the exact number for the 2019 as such. But the EUR 100 million is an additional sales roughly, slightly more than that, that we are going to see as a sales boost compared to 2018, provided that we can deliver, of course, according to the order book that we have.

M
Manu M. Rimpelä

And a follow-up on that, so do we have a similar type of profile than for the remaining EUR 200 million in the 2020-2021 given the long lead time of some of the port projects?

T
Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

There is more in the order book now for 2021 than there was one year ago for the deliveries in 2 years' time. So there is a difference there, but it is not huge. So a vast majority of the remainder of the EUR 200 million is impacting 2020 now than, of course, comparing to the situation that we had one year ago.

M
Manu M. Rimpelä

And presumably, most of that is in the Port Solutions business?

T
Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

Most of that is in the Ports, but however, one can say that also regarding the Industrial Equipment because there the process crane order intake has now lately been doing pretty okay. And there, we have, of course, longer projects. So also we have -- we have now also within the Industrial Equipment order book that is for 2020.

Operator

Thank you. It appears there are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back to you, Sir, for any additional or closing remarks.

E
Eero Tuulos
Vice President of Investor Relations

So, do we have any further questions from the audience? If not, then we conclude today's conference. Thank you very much for active participation and see you all again in the summer. Thank you.

P
Panu Routila

Thank you.

T
Teo Ottola
CFO, Deputy CEO & Member of Executive Board

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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