Xylem Inc

NYSE:XYL

Earnings Call Analysis

Company Raises Full-Year Guidance

The company's year-over-year pro forma ISS revenue grew by 10%, with strong demand leading to a 12% increase in orders and a backlog exceeding $1 billion. Adjusted EBITDA margin was robust at 22.6%. They exit the quarter with substantial cash and liquidity over $700 million and a net debt to EBITDA leverage of 1.2x. Integration with Evoqua is progressing with $140 million in cost synergies expected within three years. The company projects mid-teen growth in utilities and high single-digit growth in industrial demand. Full-year revenue is forecasted at $7.3 billion, signalling a 32% total revenue growth and organic growth of around 11%. They raise EBITDA margin guidance to 19% and adjust full-year EPS to $3.71 to $3.73.

Revenue Growth and Financial Health

Xylem revealed robust growth in its Integrated Solutions and Services (ISS) segment, which saw revenue climb by 10% year-over-year thanks to effective pricing strategies and diligent execution of its backlog. This increase was backed by a 12% growth in orders on a pro forma basis, evincing a well-rounded demand across industries and utilities, boosting the backlog well beyond the $1 billion mark - a 14% rise from the previous year. Moreover, a solidly maintained Adjusted EBITDA margin at 22.6% underscores the company's adeptness in managing its cost structure while delivering value.

Sustainable Investment Thesis and Leadership Transition

Celebrating its 12th anniversary on the stock exchange, Xylem took pride in its consistent investment thesis that centered around sustained organic growth, margin expansion, and reliable free cash flow conversion. The company acknowledged its growth in scale and impact over the years, painting a picture of resilience and an ability to adapt as the perceived value of water-as-an-asset has grown. Incoming CEO Matthew Pine endorsed this thesis and lauded the collaborative transition effort reflecting continuity in leadership, thus promising stakeholders a seamless changeover and continued progress under the new guidance.

Evoqua Integration and Market Outlook

Xylem depicted the Evoqua integration as gaining rapid traction, emphasizing solid collaboration and cultural synergy. There are significant cost synergies expected—amounting to $140 million within three years, with a projected run rate of $40 million by the end of 2023. This strategic move is designed primarily for growth, aiming to bolster value for customers through combined capabilities, especially in water utilities and industrial services. Pine conveyed optimism for extending the company's reach and impact across a fragmented market landscape through Xylem's comprehensive solution offerings.

Enhanced Financial Guidance

Financially, Xylem is on the upswing, revising its full-year revenue guidance to approximately $7.3 billion, indicating an impressive total revenue growth of about 32% and an uptick in organic revenue growth to roughly 11%, compared to the prior estimate of 9%-10%. Additionally, the anticipated EBITDA margin has been hoisted to nearly 19%, propelled by better-than-expected volume, pricing power, and productivity factors, marking about a 200-basis-point improvement relative to the preceding year. Adjusted EPS forecasts are likewise elevated to a band of $3.71 to $3.73, ascending from the earlier midpoint of $3.60. This upward revision is distributed across its various segments, with 'low 20s' growth anticipated in Measurement and Control Solutions, tempered yet sturdy single-digit growth in both Water Infrastructure and Applied Water sectors.

Earnings Call Transcript 2023-Q3

[Operator]

Welcome to Xylem's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would like to now turn the call over to Andrea van der Berg, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

[Andrea van der Berg, executive]

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Xylem's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. With me today are Chief Executive Officer, Patrick Decker; Chief Operating Officer, Matthew Pine; Senior Adviser and former Chief Financial Officer, Sandy Rowland; and Chief Financial Officer, Bill Grogan. Bill will provide their perspective on Xylem's third quarter 2023 results and discuss the fourth quarter and full year outlook.

Following our prepared remarks, we will address questions related to the information covered on the call. I'll ask you please keep to one question and a follow-up and then return to the queue.

As a reminder, this call and our webcast are accompanied by a slide presentation available in the Investors section of our website. A replay of today's call will be available until midnight, November 7. Additionally, the call will be available for playback via the Investors section of our website under the heading Investor Events. Please turn to Slide 2.

We will make some forward-looking statements on today's call, including references to future events or developments that we anticipate will or may occur in the future. These statements are subject to future risks and uncertainties such as those factors described in Xylem's most recent annual report on Form 10-K and in subsequent reports filed with the SEC. Please note that the company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements publicly to reflect subsequent events or circumstances, and actual events or results could differ materially from those anticipated. Please turn to Slide 3.

We've provided you with a summary of our key performance metrics, including both GAAP and non-GAAP metrics. For purposes of today's call, all references will be on an organic and/or adjusted basis, unless otherwise indicated, and non-GAAP financials have been reconciled for you and are included in the Appendix section of the presentation.

Now please turn to Slide 4, and I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Patrick Decker.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

Thanks, Andrea. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. By now, you'll see that our first full quarter as a combined company with Xylem and Evoqua together. The team delivered very strong performance across each of our segments. We significantly exceeded expectations on organic revenue growth, EBITDA margin and earnings per share. And revenue grew 10% organically. We expanded EBITDA margin well above prior year, and we delivered EPS of $0.99 for the quarter, which represents 14% growth year-over-year. Orders were up 3% and more importantly, our backlogs continue to grow, especially in our M&CS and ISS segments. Total backlog is now $5.2 billion. And this sets us up for continued growth momentum and demonstrates the health of our key end markets. So on the strength of this performance, we are raising our full year guidance.

I want to personally give a big shout out to the team for their strong operational performance during a period of integrating 2 large enterprises. Instead of getting distracted, the team continued to focus on serving our customers and delivering on our commitments. The integration of Evoqua is well on track to deliver the cost synergies we promised. It's those synergies that underwrote the transaction. But more importantly, it's the growth synergies that excite us the most. And our customers have already begun to experience the advantages of our combined capabilities.

Overall, the quarter's strong result, it reflects our continued momentum, and that puts me in a very privileged position on my last earnings call as CEO of Xylem. In September, we announced a planned succession of both me as CEO and Sandy as CFO. Matthew Pine is going to lead Xylem as CEO beginning January 1. I'll remain on as an adviser through the end of March. I'd also like to formally welcome our new CFO, Bill Grogan, who is on the call with us today. He's alongside Sandy Rowland. Bill took on the role of CFO on October 1, and it's been a real pleasure to welcome him to the team. Now as Sandy was in the chair through beginning of September, she is going to cover the third quarter results. But that's not going to happen before I take the opportunity to thank her for her many significant contributions to Xylem. She's been a great partner and a great leader over the last few years with me and the team we simply would not be where we are today without her many contributions.

So now over to you, Sandy.

[Sandra Rowland, executive]

Thank you, Patrick. Before I go over the quarter's performance, I'd like to take a moment to congratulate Bill. In the short time since he stepped into the CFO role, I've been impressed with how quickly he has immersed himself in the business and taken on financial leadership of the company. Like Patrick, I will continue to stay on this as an adviser through March to ensure a smooth transition, but the company will be in great hands with Bill working alongside Matthew next year, and I couldn't be more confident in Xylem's future. And now let's look at the quarter. Please turn to Slide 5.

As Patrick mentioned, the team has continued to deliver strong performance in Q3, exceeding expectations on growth margin expansion and earnings per share. Each segment outperformed, including integrated solutions and services. As a reminder, since the combination with Evoqua, we began including ISS as our fourth reporting segment. For Xylem overall, total revenues grew 50%, while organic revenue rose 10%, led by particularly robust double-digit growth in the U.S. Western Europe grew a healthy 6% and emerging markets was down largely due to China despite strength in other parts of Asia and all [indiscernible] in Africa. From an end market perspective, utilities grew 16%, mainly driven by robust demand and price realization in both M&CS and water infrastructure. Industrial grew 5%, driven by strong demand in the U.S. and healthy demand in Western Europe. Lastly, Building Solutions grew 3%, with strength in developed markets, more than offsetting moderation in emerging markets.

Overall, demand remains resilient. Our backlog is now $5.2 billion, up 5% organically, and this includes a $1.3 billion contribution from Evoqua. Orders were up 3% in the quarter, and book-to-bill for the company was approximately 1. EBITDA margin was 19.8%, up 150 basis points from the prior year on higher volumes, productivity savings and favorable price cost dynamics. Our EPS in the quarter was $0.99, up 14% year-over-year. Please turn to Slide 6, and I'll review each segment's third quarter performance in a bit more detail.

M&CS revenue was up 25%, driven primarily by improved chip supply and backlog execution as well as strength in test and measurement. All regions saw double-digit growth led by an impressive 31% in the U.S. Orders were down in the quarter due to the timing of metrology orders, while Assessment Services saw strong growth. Year-to-date, book-to-bill remains above 1 for this segment. Our M&C backlog of $2.3 billion is up 11% organically versus the prior year a reflection of strong continuing demand for our AMI offerings and the accelerating trend towards digitization. EBITDA margin for the segment was up 190 basis points versus the prior year, driven by volume conversion price realization and productivity, more than offsetting inflation. And now let's turn to Slide 7, and I'll cover our Water Infrastructure business.

Water Infrastructure outperformed due to stronger-than-expected price realization and backlog execution with reported growth of 40% and organic growth of 7%. As a reminder, we have integrated Evoqua's applied products technology business into the Water Infrastructure segment, further building out our treatment portfolio. This business outperformed expectations driven by stronger backlog execution. For both utilities and industrials, the U.S. saw robust growth, while Western Europe proved resilient, offsetting some weakness in emerging markets. Organic orders in the quarter were up 14% year-over-year, and each region saw double-digit growth, with particular strength in developed markets. EBITDA margin for the segment was up 50 basis points and 80 basis points when excluding the contribution of Evoqua. Please turn to Slide 8 for an overview of Applied Water.

Applied Water revenues grew 1% on continued backlog execution, modestly better than expectations of flat revenue growth. Growth in Building Solutions was driven by continued strength in commercial, particularly in the U.S. While Industrial was down modestly, there was resilient growth in developed markets, offset by moderation in emerging markets. Orders were up 2% in the quarter on strength in the U.S. and segment EBITDA margin expanded 20 basis points with continued strong price cost dynamics and productivity more than offsetting volume declines. Please turn to Slide 9.

Last quarter, we introduced Integrated Solutions and Services as our fourth segment. ISS brings a durable recurring news from businesses, including outsourced water, which provide outcome-based treatment services to customers. In its first full quarter with Xylem, ISS revenue exceeded our expectations as implied in our reported guidance. On a pro forma basis, ISS revenue grew 10% year-over-year driven by strong price realization and backlog execution. Orders grew on a pro forma basis by 12% year-over-year with broad-based demand across industrials and utilities. Book-to-bill was greater than 1 and backlog exceeded $1 billion to end the quarter, up 14% year-over-year on a pro forma basis. Adjusted EBITDA margin was strong at 22.6%, driven by price realization and productivity. And now let's turn to Slide 10 for an overview of cash flows and the company's financial position.

Our position remains robust as we exit the quarter with over $700 million in cash and available liquidity of $1.7 billion. Net debt-to-EBITDA leverage is 1.2x and year-to-date, we had adjusted free cash flow conversion of 94%. Please turn to Slide 11, and I'll hand it back over to Patrick.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

Thanks, Sandy. Today is the 12th anniversary of Xylem's listing on the New York Stock Exchange. And I think it's pretty fair to say that 12 years ago, water wasn't very widely recognized as an investable thesis. But since then, intensifying secular trends have made absolutely clear the value of a platform of solutions to meet the global order challenges. In that time, Xylem has evolved in our composition, our scale and our impact, but our investment thesis has remained constant.

It's one that's focused on a multiyear runway of attractive organic growth with sustainable margin expansion, and strong free cash flow conversion. And it's that financial strength and confidence that allows us to effectively deploy capital as we continue building a differentiated market-leading water solutions platform. Under that thesis, we built a very durable business model and Xylem colleagues and partners around the world are creating significant economic and social value as we serve our customers and communities around the world. I am both proud of what we built for, but also excited to see what Xylem is capable of becoming under Matthew's leadership.

Matthew and I have worked side-by-side for the past 3.5 years. So this handover is progressing very smoothly. And I have total confidence he will lead this team to realize the full promise of our strategy and created an even greater impact in value in the years to come. So now over to you, Matthew.

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Thank you, Patrick. I am grateful and energized the prospect of building on Xylem's momentum in creating our next phase of growth and impact. I'm also deeply grateful for Patrick's passionate visionary leadership. His legacy is Xylem's bright future, having put Xylem firmly on a path of continuing profitable growth. The strength of our partnership is making it easy to deliver the continuity essential to all stakeholders in this handover as we approach the turn of the year. And as Patrick said, our thesis is constant, our strategy is sound, and we are committed to our long-range plan, as team is solving customers' greatest water challenges with the most advanced platform of solutions in the world. A fragmented complex market, that integrated offering is a distinctive competitive advantage. The opportunity ahead of us is to make it easier for even more customers to access the full range of capabilities they need to solve their most critical water challenges.

In the process, we'll grow our penetration, our profitability, our durability and our impact. The team and I look forward sharing more color about the next phase of our growth at an Investor Day in May next year. We'll provide a further update on our combined company opportunity and long-range plan then. In the meantime, I'm pleased to share our near-term outlook I'll provide a brief update on our Evoqua integration and then a picture of what we expect in our end markets over the next period. And then finally, I'll ask Bill to provide guidance for the remainder of the year. Moving to Slide 12.

As you can see, the integration of Evoqua has gained quick momentum, and the team has come together remarkably fast. There's great collaboration, and we have the benefit of bringing 2 highly complemented cultures with assembly-strong sense of purpose together. We committed $140 million of cost synergies within 3 years as well as exiting 2023 with a [ $40 million ] run rate. And as Patrick mentioned, that's well on track. But the rationale for the combination has always been about growth. the opportunity to create more value serving customers with our combined capabilities. In utilities, we'll deepen our penetration, especially with the addition of Evoqua's applied product technology offerings through our Water Infrastructure segment. The combination allows us to provide even more comprehensive treatment solutions in both clean water and wastewater.

In Industrial, we will scale our presence in attractive verticals with services offerings of ISS. We see long-term market expansion in growing verticals such as microelectronics, power, life sciences and food and beverage. And geographically, we will scale Evoqua's products and solutions internationally, including the service business by leveraging Xylem's global distribution platform. Both Xylem and Evoqua were market leaders on their own. But together, we're in even a stronger position. We are already seeing the benefits of scale, reach and integrated offerings and a robust pipeline of global opportunities as well as the combined wins both teams are posting.

And as we integrate our 2 businesses even more deeply, we'll take advantage of the opportunity to optimize our portfolio for growth. That will include structuring our offerings in ways that are matched to how our end markets address water management. The job is to make it even simpler for them to access solutions they need and we're already hearing how customers appreciate having fewer vendors to coordinate across multiple domains. Now let's turn to Slide 13, and I'll cover the outlook for our end markets.

Our outperformance in the first three quarters of the year provides great momentum to build on. I especially want to echo Patrick shout out to all of our teams for delivering such a standout performance this year and in the third quarter. It's that kind of commitment and discipline that demonstrates the team's ability to execute through a dynamic macroeconomic environment. That said, we continue to take a balanced outlook and are monitoring signs of softness on a regional level particularly in China and some end markets addressed by our Applied Water segment.

As a reminder, our 2023 outlook is expressed on an organic basis. At a high level, we anticipate that utilities demand will continue to be resilient and industrial demand will provide steady growth. Utilities compromise approximately 45% of revenue, they continue to show healthy demand, and we continue to expect growth of mid-teens. On the clean water side, we continue to see robust demand for our AMI solutions. On top of that, we're driving backlog execution on improved chip supply, and we're seeing even more traction on solution selling with our digital platform as customers increasingly value bundled offerings. We now anticipate growth of mid-20s, up from low 20s previously. On the wastewater side, OpEx is expected to remain resilient in developed markets alongside steady CapEx spend across regions, underpinning demand. We expect to see high single-digit growth in wastewater overall.

Turning to industrial end market, which is about 45% of our revenue, we now expect global growth of high single digits, up from mid-single digits. Developed markets continue to be resilient, although there are pockets of moderation in emerging markets. Lastly, in Building Solutions, which is about 10% of our revenue, we continue to expect growth of mid-single digits, driven by steady replacement business, particularly in commercial applications. Overall, the demand outlook continues to be positive despite some variability in macro indicators. While the organic view does not include Evoqua, the demand profile in ISS is resilient on the foundation of recurring revenues further increasing the durability of our business.

Now I have the pleasure of turning the call over to Bill for the first time to walk through our Q4 guidance.

[William Grogan, executive]

Thanks, Matthew, and thanks Patrick and Sandy, for your kind words. I'm incredibly grateful to Sandy for being so generous for their insight about the business during this handover. She has built a strong team and culture, and I wish her well in her new endeavors. I want to start by saying how excited I am to join the Xylem team. I've long admired the company, both because of its rise to sector leadership and also because of its distinctive commitment to both social and economic value creation. And now a month in, I'm even more compelled by the opportunities ahead of us. It is a privilege to be part of the team that will take Xylem forward, building on this extraordinary platform and performance.

As Patrick mentioned, we are increasing our full year revenue, EBITDA margin and EPS guidance. Full year revenue will now be approximately $7.3 billion. This translates to total revenue growth of about [ 32% ] and organic revenue growth of about 11%, up from 9% to 10% previously. We are raising EBITDA margin of approximately 19%, up from 18%, driven by higher volume, stronger price realization and productivity initiatives. This reflects about 200 basis points of margin expansion versus the prior year. In addition, we are lifting full year adjusted EPS guidance to $3.71 to $3.73, up from $3.60 at the midpoint. The revised guidance breaks down by segment as follows: low 20s growth in M&CS, up from approximately 20% previously, high single-digit growth in water infrastructure and mid-single-digit growth in Applied Water. And we remain committed to achieving free cash flow conversion of above 100% of net income. We have also provided you with a number of full year assumptions in the appendix on Slide 19.

And now drilling down in the fourth quarter. We anticipate total revenue growth will be in the 35% to 36% range on a reported basis and [ 4% to 5% ] organically. By segment, we expect revenue growth to be mid-teens in M&CS, low single digits in water infrastructure and remained flat in Applied Water. We expect fourth quarter EBITDA margin to be approximately 19.5% driven by higher volumes, continued price realization and productivity gains. This yields fourth quarter EPS of $0.94 to $0.96. Our operational discipline, commercial momentum and backlog strength give us confidence in the remainder of the year and delivering our long-term plan.

With that, please turn to Slide 15, and I'll turn the call back over to Patrick for closing comments.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

Thanks, Bill, and thank you, Matthew and Sandy. This is a bittersweet moment for me. I'm wrapping up my last earnings call with Xylem. Leading in helping build this enterprise has been absolutely the greatest privilege of my career. I'm so proud of what the team has achieved in the past 10 years. Of the work that we've done alongside our partners, serving our customers and communities and of the value we've created together. That said, it's clear to me personally, we are only just beginning to realize our full potential. Xylem is strongly positioned, our momentum is accelerating and there has never been a greater need for solutions to the world's water challenges. It's incredibly gratifying to note that me, that my more than 22,000 Xylem colleagues and our partners are going to take the work of solving water forward under an exceptionally strong leadership team. We are poised to have an even greater impact and to create even more value in the many years to come.

On a final personal note to the many of you whose jobs include closely tracking and analyzing our business, I've come to know you quite well as you followed Xylem's growth. I admire and respect the work that you do, all the very best to each of you and simply go keep making a difference.

Now, we're going to take your questions. And so operator, let's open it up for Q&A.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.

[Deane Dray, analyst]

You have to indulge me. I need to start with some important congratulations. So let me just rattle through them here. So Sandy, thank you for all your help and wish you all the best. Matthew, you and I have already connected twice in person since the announcement. But in my view, you've got the right skill set and leadership to lead Xylem from here, so congrats. And Bill, welcome, and I don't want to put too much pressure on you, but we are expecting the same sort of elite CFO contribution that we saw for years at [ IDEX ]. So congrats and welcome to you. All right. So -- and Patrick, no tissues here, but you've had a fabulous 10-year run you're handing off the reins truly in it from a position of strength. And I just remember, when you joined Xylem, it was a company that thought of itself as a pump company. I mean, that's what they said and the entire portfolio has evolved to where I love how you phrase it, you're solving water. So just you should feel really proud about how you develop the company and the portfolio and the leadership team. So congrats.

[Unknown Executive]

Thank you, Deane, and that means a lot coming from you. You've been here from the beginning.

[Deane Dray, analyst]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right. So let's just talk about the quarter if we could, and maybe start with Evoqua and how the business -- you're -- Matthew referenced some new wins. Just how have the revenue synergies started conversations with customers, what will be the first opportunities maybe to take Evoqua as business with existing customers to Europe. So any color there would be helpful.

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes. Thanks, Deane, for the question. Maybe I'll just start at a very high level and just talk about the guiding principles that Patrick really stated when we did the deal which I think were really important to our execution. The first was we said we have to deliver on our '23 plans. And as you can see from Q3, really strong performance. As most of you know, that was the legacy Evoqua's business Q4 in this past fiscal calendar Q3. So great execution by the team, and I couldn't be happier.

The second, we need to make sure we deliver on the value capture of the cost and revenue synergies. And on this -- what I would call the softer side, which is equally as important when you bring 2 companies together, is to make sure we get the right talent on the field of the pitch, if you will, and make sure we retain top talent. We've done a really nice job there. And then lastly, bringing the best of both cultures together. So obviously, the work is not done, but we're off to a good start, and those guiding principles have helped really get momentum in the business. Just quickly on cost synergies, we're tracking to the $40 million exit rate that we talked about in those 3 buckets of corporate cost, procurement and footprint. But more so on the revenue synergies, which you're getting at, Deane, the momentum is strong. We've just completed the APT integration into water infrastructure, which is really a milestone for us. We've appointed regional synergy leads in each one of the regions to drive the value capture. The incentives are in place and the training is ongoing both for the sales team as well as the services organization.

The short term, as you talk about, really, the short term, we're focused on cross-selling our products into industrial and back into municipal. But I think the services, which I'll touch on in a minute, has been the biggest surprise so far, midterm, we're going to leverage the Xylem footprint in Europe to bring capital products to customers to the Evoqua products that are international in bringing those folks from the U.S. to international.

And then lastly, long term, we're moving our services internationally. But I wanted to give you an example of an early synergy win. We have a power customer. It's oil and gas -- well, actually, it's an oil and gas customer. Where we do the process water for them, it's a build on operate, we do not do the wastewater. And they had their wastewater system go down and it was crippling their operations. So within really 48 hours, we were able to bring the legacy businesses together, both on the treatment side as well as the pumping and transport of wastewater in that facility and keep them up and running and also keep them away from having fines. We've had several examples like that where we can bring a full solution to the customer with one phone call. And I think that's really important. So off to a great start. There's many examples like that, but we'll be able to give a lot more context as we roll into 2024.

[Deane Dray, analyst]

That's all really good to hear. And if I could have a follow-up on M&CS. Just your update on the chip supply, it looks like we continue to see a gradual improvement there. And any comment about the orders in the third quarter and just kind of what the funnel looks like?

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes, I'll start with orders, and I'll come back to chip supply. Although we were down 11%, backlog is up [ 11% ], $2.3 billion in M&CS, book-to-bill ratio greater than 1. Deane, that bid activity remains really strong. in M&CS, especially metrology. Really, the reason for the decline in orders in the quarter was more of a timing of the backlog conversion to orders. As you know, A lot of the larger AMI deals, they sit in backlog for a period of time, anywhere from 3 to 12 months, while the utility is getting ready for the deployment and when we receive the PO is when we book it as an order. So it's more of a timing issue and that can be a little bit lumpy. But in general, we're really bullish on AMI adoption and it's still fairly early innings.

On the chip supply, the original guide this year for the business was low teens, we're in the low 20s. So we've seen continual gradual chip improvement quarter-over-quarter. I think this quarter, it came in a little faster than we had thought, and it can be lumpy, but really chip supply in Q3 was strong. We see that continued momentum into Q4, especially with our product redesigns. And then obviously, we've got -- with the backlog, we have a lot of potential in '24 in M&CS.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

Deane, this is Patrick. Just to punctuate what Matthew has said, and that segment, again, orders are only a function of when POs are placed. The key metric there is what's happened with backlog. And again, the backlog is very healthy. The deal pipeline is very healthy and the win rate especially in North America, is very impressive for AMI.

[Operator]

And we'll take our next question from Mike Halloran with Baird.

[Michael Halloran, analyst]

So like thanks, Patrick, for everything over the years. It's been a long run, but really appreciate everything. Sandy, same, not quite as long but best of luck moving forward. And obviously, Bill and Matthew, I look forward to working with both of you. So appreciate it, everyone.

[Matthew Pine, executive]

I don't think I've had 4 congratulations on the call before.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

Mike, we don't do things orthodox here. So -- but we do them the right way through it's called succession planning. So thank you.

[Michael Halloran, analyst]

No problem. All right. So following up on Deane's M&CS order question, maybe broaden it out a little bit. As you think about end markets heading into 2024, I certainly appreciate Matthew's comments on the fourth quarter itself. Where are the optimistic points where the concern points? And a lot of moving pieces here, right? You have really strong backlog. You have some regulatory tailwinds that are starting to hit or at least it seems like it. But you also have this uncertain macro backdrop in some of these emerging market regions where there's a little less clarity. So maybe just talk about some of those moving pieces as you're thinking about next year and where you think there could be some demand sustainability or where you have a little bit more concern points?

[Matthew Pine, executive]

No, it's a great question. Mike, we're committed to both the legacy businesses long-range plans that were presented back in '21. It did start right there and just get that out. And really, we have great momentum heading into next year with a platform that's been built by the Evoqua-Xylem combination.

If you look back over the past decade of Patrick's leadership, 50% of the company didn't exist 6 or 7 short years ago, and we're really operating from a position of strength in terms of the platform that has been built. So that feels really good as a jump-off point. I think if you kind of think about the macro drivers or favorable drivers, the secular trends continue to be strong scarcity of water, aged infrastructure and developed markets. Water quality is increasingly an issue and as many of us have seen this year with flooding happening all over the world. So those trends will continue, and they'll continue to buoy the business.

Government funding, we talk a lot about the funding. It's going to be a dimmer switch. It's going to come over a period of time. But the next 6 to 7 years, we'll see continued trickle funding globally, not only in the U.S. I think the resiliency of our OpEx and utilities will continue to be a strong point. I think the ISS durable business model with the combination coming together with 75% services [ and ] aftermarket gives us a lot more diversity of cash flows as we move into '24. And then lastly, M&CS backlog, which we just talked about with the supply chain improvements, I think, they are all positive.

I think if I had to mention a few watch items, our more cyclical pieces of the portfolio with the end markets in Applied Water or definitely a watch item. There's pockets of industrial weakness. It's really niche when you think about ag or marine, but they're very small pieces of our business. But in general, industrials tended to hold up pretty well. And then I think the last thing I'd mention is China, which I mentioned in the opening comments, Industrial has remained pretty resilient in China for us. it's been the utilities, but it's been more on just a push to the right more than anything in China, which we can talk a little bit more about that later. But that's kind of the insights that we give. Obviously, in our February earnings call, we'll be able to give more color, but that's what I see right now.

[Michael Halloran, analyst]

Great. I appreciate that. And then second question, just on pricing and mix. So price cost in the quarter, it sounds like the backlog for M&CS is better than the margin profile today. Makes a lot of sense. Maybe just talk about some of those 2 dynamics as you're looking forward, ability to continue to manage the price side of things against resilient inflation and how we should think about mix on a forward basis?

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes. Just price cost in Q3 continue to be positive for Xylem. We're up 70 bps. We expect pricing to moderate in 2024 as we lap previous increases. I think '24 is going to fall more in line with historical trends. But in terms of M&CS definitely, price cost contributed to a little bit of the incrementals this quarter. But we feel really positive in a step up in Q4 and into '24. We've taken some pricing actions that will start to really materialize into '24. And in terms of the mix, it will continue to be a little bit lumpy with energy, but we're working that backlog down, and we expect that to normalize as we get into '24.

[Operator]

And we'll take our next question from Scott Davis with Melius Research.

[Scott Davis, analyst]

I'll let Deane's congratulations kind of take the lead for me. And since he's the elder statesman, I will defer to him, but I agree with everything he said, so congrats to everybody. Matthew, can you -- just on China, can you guys help us understand kind of the interplay between OpEx and CapEx? I mean when -- I assume it's all CapEx that's decline and push to the right. But is there a certain OpEx impact as well?

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes, I think it's Yes. In terms of China, yes, the under -- I'd just say the underlying demand does remain fairly healthy. Like I said, industrial has been more of been more resilient than utilities. But with regard to utilities, it's a little bit of a mixed bag. It's really timing of funding, not only for CapEx but also for OpEx as well. And as we've seen in the treatment piece of our business in China, it's been actually a little bit more resilient than transport. Transport tends to be a bit more OpEx-centric. So it's a little bit of a mixed bag, Scott, when it comes to the funding, it's both CapEx and OpEx.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

Scott, I guess, 2 weeks ago, I was there -- Scott 2 weeks ago, I was there for a week, and I spent time with our leadership ping and the team and visited our locations in Nanjing, Shenyang, Shanghai traveled around, met with customers, met with the team and the whole purpose was to really get a sense for kind of how things feel in China. And all I can say is based upon our portfolio, what we have there. Yes, there are some near-term shifting to the right on when backlog gets converted on the utility side, but underlying demand is still very strong there. That market is very positive. And as many of you have heard me say before, as my father said, every generation thinks theirs is a last, this is my third time talking about the future of China in terms of demand for water and environment. And things felt very, very good in terms of robust underlying demand.

[Scott Davis, analyst]

That makes sense. I guess, I don't think I ever -- I'm not sure -- I haven't asked this question. I don't think you've talked about or maybe I have and I just didn't remember. But -- how are you integrating the R&D efforts between Evoqua and Xylem, how are you kind of integrating and eliminating duplication, if there was any, I would assume there'd be some maybe like an things like PFAS and things like that? And then how are you prioritizing projects with -- assuming there is some level of integration, but I'll just let you guys comment on that.

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes. That's a great question. We haven't talked a lot about the R&D synergies, but for sure, they're there. Let me first start out by Snehal Desai, leading that team, and I'm actually here in D.C. today with his leadership team. So he comes over from the legacy Evoqua business. And yes, there is some overlap, especially when you think about the work that's being done in PFAS, both -- obviously, the capture technologies there about the destruction in the -- sensing is really where the innovation is required. And obviously, 1 plus 1 can equal 3 there, we were both working on that separately. But now together, we think we can get there more efficiently in a more expedited fashion. But in general, yes, there were different solutions that we were working on separately that as we come together, we can get leverage from that combined spend and really that effort.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

And I think, Scott, I would just add that part of our innovation effort because R&D is only one part of innovation, was through the partnerships that we have through academia, venture capital, start-ups coming to us. And that's where I think the scale and platform of Xylem and our relationships will benefit what the legacy Evoqua business was looking to capture around things like PFAS, but other treatment solutions facing our customers.

[Operator]

And we'll take our next question from Nathan Jones with Stifel.

[Nathan Jones, analyst]

I'll add my congratulations to Patrick and Sandy. And congratulations to Bill and Matthew. Maybe just emerging markets outside of China. I mean, you've talked about some of the issues that China during the quarter and particular to your business, I don't think. But maybe you could talk about the emerging market performance outside of China.

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes. I think ex China emerging markets has been pretty resilient for us across all different end markets, Nate. I think with the exception would probably be a little bit of weakness in the Middle East and our Applied Water business. But in general, if you look at the other businesses, they've been really resilient outside of China and have helped kind of buoy the -- a little bit of the tough push to the right that we've seen in China. That's across all different regions, Africa, Northern Asia, Southeast Asia, India, and Australia and New Zealand.

[Nathan Jones, analyst]

I think for the follow-up, I'll ask about the Idrica partnership, Xylene [indiscernible] adoption. You guys had some pretty broad presentations at [ ACE ] and at [ Westech ] this year. So maybe you can talk about customer reception to those kinds of things and customer uptake for those kinds of things.

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes. No, it's been fabulous. Actually, it's exceeded our expectations. We've engaged over 200 customers globally. And it's -- the thing I'm excited about, it's been really balanced across the globe, both the U.S., Europe and emerging markets. We've got a tremendous pipeline build. We're working now on executing from orders to sales and deployment. I did -- if you remember, I highlighted -- I'm going to highlight a couple of examples. One was in the U.S. in the Southeastern city of large city we're able to, what I'd say, land and expand, we took the platform, the digital platform into the utility to aggregate all their applications and then making it easy for them, then we bolted on 2 of our own applications, which is recurring revenue. And then from there, we picked up a $40 million AMI deal.

So it's kind of land and expand, but it's also pulling through our products and solutions. On the heels of that, we just also picked up in Europe from a large European utility, [ $20 million ] of treatment in metrology in Southern Europe, same situation. They have the platform implemented, and we're able to leverage our relationship and pull through treatment and AMI solution. So I've talked a lot about the platform being the consolidator of utilities information. We believe that's true, but the pull-through we're getting in the relationships we're building allows us to bundle our offerings and that's really exciting.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

And Nate, Matthew, he led the effort on cultivating the Idrica opportunity. over a number of years. And obviously, he's been involved in cultivating the Evoqua opportunity over a few years. What I would just offer up here is, this has always been, as we've said, about helping our customers turn the lights on their infrastructure to understand, have a better feel for what's going on. And infrastructure so that when they spend the next dollar of CapEx or OpEx where best to spend it. And I think the few opportunities that Matthew mentioned already, where it's the pull-through that is as much the opportunity as the initial services sell to the customer.

[Nathan Jones, analyst]

Maybe you'll have to add a discussion on the revenue synergies from Idrica to the revenue synergies from Evoqua at the Analyst [indiscernible]

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes. I think it's a good comment because we do think the platform has scalability into the industrial and building services business. Obviously, we're going to stay focused on utilities to it first. So we stay focused and deliver, but it does have ability to expand into industrial.

[Operator]

We'll take our next question from Joe Giordano with TD Cowen.

[Joseph Giordano, analyst]

Patrick Sandy, thank you for everything. Congratulations and with 5 simultaneous calls going on today for me, being done with the earnings calls, sounds wonderful. So I'm very jealous for both of you. Congratulations. Bill, maybe I'll start with you, like as you come over from [ IDEXX ] and you kind of want to bring the best of what that firm had. Like how do you kind of kick start in 80/20 kind of culture here? What's involved in really doing that and driving it to be like at the forefront.

[William Grogan, executive]

Yes. No, great question. And the team had already started that issue before I got here. They recognize that -- it's a core tool that ultimately frees up organizational capacity, right? Its focus is to eliminate complexity, focus on the things that matter most. There's obviously the core analytics from a product and customer perspective, but thinking about more broadly and leveraging those tools to help enhance our strategy. So we're doing it very much like we did at IDEXX, piloting it in a couple of locations, getting folks familiar with the tools and the concepts and they're rolling it out more thoroughly as we have initial successes and wins. So it is something, I think, that's going to have a tremendous amount of value, both on the top and bottom line, creating velocity to innovation for our customers and creating longer-term returns for our shareholders.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

And I think, this is Patrick, I'll just add that I think the way I would encourage investors to look at this is we've spent the last decade building a platform that customers can access for their needs, which means growth. And when you build that platform, then you have something to actually apply 80/20 to. And so that's why right now is the perfect time for this combination to be coming together and Bill coming in with his toolkit. The team had already been working on this, but I think what he brings to the table is going to be incredibly valuable to the enterprise in terms of value creation.

[Joseph Giordano, analyst]

Is that concept even more applicable to the Evoqua platform. I just think of them as having been built from like almost that we have everything kind of ethos, right, of being nationally available and having tons of different products. It just feels like given the breadth of SKUs there, like maybe something like this, whether it's keeping everything and discharging appropriately? Or like is it just feels like it might be more appropriate for that business. Is that fair to think.

[William Grogan, executive]

On balance would be similar to the opportunities we have at Xylem. It's not hugely differentiated there. Obviously, there's a -- 80/20 is applicable to all different business models. So the service aspect versus a product-based organization, it's still a tool that will drive significant value.

[Joseph Giordano, analyst]

Okay. And then just last for me. Is the infrastructure order rate, do you feel like that's stable here? Because it's a pretty -- it's probably a number that caught most people by surprise being that strong. So is that in dollars kind of a good number?

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes. The water infrastructure order rate. Yes. It included a couple of big projects in custom pump. But in general, yes, we're seeing good demand, resilient demand both in developed markets and ex China and emerging markets. So we feel pretty good and it's been pretty resilient.

[Operator]

We'll take our next question from Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup.

[Andrew Kaplowitz, analyst]

Patrick, Sandy, congrats. We'll miss you. Matt and Bill, we're looking forward to working with you. Maybe I could start, just -- it doesn't look like it, but are your customers outside of China changing their behavior at all based on higher interest rates or economic uncertainty. Your new public competitor in the water space mentioned that some North American municipalities are holding on plant upgrade and some investments, but it doesn't seem like that is what your utility or industrial companies are doing, but maybe you can give us some more color on what you're seeing?

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes, I would just -- maybe just specific to utilities and wastewater. I think is a proxy for the question. Just a reminder that 50% of our revenue is outside the U.S. and 75% of that is OpEx which can be a little bit different in terms of the mix. We're seeing continued resiliency in orders in developed markets leading the way with emerging markets kind of minus China, like I said, to Joe contributing nicely. With regard to CapEx, I'd point to our treatment orders, which were up 6% in Q3 and we have a healthy funnel and pipeline up 8%. We have been reaching out to customers kind of qualitatively across section of customers across the globe. And specifically in the U.S., they don't really see a major funding shift in spending, plus the addition of stimulus money that's going to trickle in over time, Andy, I think will also help kind of keep things stable. But in general, we haven't really kind of seen anything that's alarming for us that would be a watch item.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

Andy, this is Patrick. Again, one thing I would offer to investors as you think about, I know we have some new entrants into the space. I think it's important that our investors understand that we've got the broadest water platform that's out there. And so I think drilling down into what percentage of our total revenue actually overlaps with some of our competitors that are out there is an important thing to pay attention to. The treatment bidding pipeline, as Matthew alluded to, is the single most important indicator as the health of the utilities over time. And that continues to be up, I think, mid- to high single digits. So that's a reflection of what the underlying health of the utilities are. And again, I just offer that as something for you all to focus on.

[Andrew Kaplowitz, analyst]

Definitely appreciate that color, guys. And then maybe I could ask you for a little more color on what you're seeing in the Applied Water segment and specifically across your channel and channel inventory there. Can you give us color to sellout versus sell-in, do you still see inventories in balance? And do you see a period of slower orders for that segment? Will they just continue to be a bit lumpy?

[Matthew Pine, executive]

Yes. Andy, within our Applied Water business, we don't have a tremendous amount of stocking. Again, it's -- if you kind of look at resi commercial of the overall Xylem business, it's only 10%. But a lot of our orders, Andy, are configured to order, engineered to order. So they're for a specific job. Yes, we have book and ship. It's mainly in our resi business and a little bit commercially. And a lot of that has kind of worked itself out. If you look at our compares on the resi business, which makes up 3% of our business, we're up on a year-over-year basis, and we've kind of hit the bottom and we're coming out of the downturn on resi. But again, it's a small part of our portfolio.

[Operator]

This concludes the Q&A portion of today's call. I would now like to turn the floor over to Patrick Decker for closing remarks.

[Patrick Decker, executive]

Well, thank you, [ I mean ]. It's been a great privilege to work with such an extraordinary set of colleagues and partners over the past nearly 10 years. I couldn't be more proud of where we are today. And I'm looking forward to saying all that Matthew, Bill and the team are going to do as they tail them into its next chapter. The work has never been more important as to what Xylem is doing -- and this company has never been better positioned to make a difference as we're committed to doing with our customers and communities around the world. Again, I want to thank everyone, and all the very best to you and your families.

[Operator]

Thank you. This concludes today's Xylem Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Please disconnect your line at this time, and have a wonderful day.