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Good morning. This is Cyndi Holt, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. And I would like to welcome you to the Tanger Factory Outlet Centers’ First Quarter 2021 Conference Call. Yesterday evening we issued our earnings release, as well as our supplemental information package and investor presentation. This information is available on our Investor Relations website, investors.tangeroutlet.com.
Please note that during this conference call some of management’s comments will be forward-looking statements that are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from those projected. We direct you to our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for a detailed discussion of these risks and uncertainties.
During the call, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures as defined by SEC Regulation G, including funds from operations or FFO, core FFO, same center net operating income and adjusted EBITDA. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release and in our supplemental information.
This call is being recorded for rebroadcast for a period of time in the future. As such, it is important to note that management’s comments include time-sensitive information that may only be accurate as of today’s date, May 6, 2021.
At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following management’s prepared comments, the call will be opened up for your questions. We request that everyone ask only one question and one follow-up to allow as many of you as possible to ask questions. If time permits, we are happy for you to re-queue for additional questions.
On the call today will be Steven Tanger, our Executive Chair; Stephen Yalof, Chief Executive Officer; and Jim Williams, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
I will now turn the call over to Steven Tanger. Please go ahead, Steve.
Good morning. And thank you for joining us for our first quarter 2021 earnings call. We are encouraged by a brighter macro outlook over the past 90 days, as vaccination rollout continues and an improving retail environment as evidenced by the Consumer Confidence Index in late April reaching its highest level since the onset of the pandemic.
The improvement, we are starting to see in some of our operating metrics reflects the excellent value proposition that our open-air centers provide for both retailers and shoppers. We are confident that by continuing to make progress executing on our strategy will position the company to return to sustained growth over time.
I would now like to turn the call over to Steve Yalof to provide details on our first quarter performance and to discuss our strategic priorities.
Thank you, Steve. We are pleased to share the traffic to our domestic open-air centers in the first quarter nearly returned to 2019 levels and exceeded 2019 levels in April. We continue to make progress on our core priorities for the business, leasing, operating and marketing our outlet centers. We are focused on rebuilding our occupancy, driving leasing and curating our merchandise mix to maximize shopper frequency in dwell time and to bring new customers to Tanger centers.
Consolidated portfolio occupancy was 91.7% at the end of the quarter, up only 20 basis points from the end of 2020. This reflects the anticipated 61,000 square feet of space recaptured during the quarter related to bankruptcies and brand-wide restructurings.
Blended average rental rates decreased 2.8% on a straight-line basis and 8.5% on a cash basis for all renewals and re-tenanted leases that commenced during the trailing 12 months ended March 31, 2021. However, this reflects a 300-basis-point improvement on a cash basis, 390-basis-point improvement on a straight-line basis compared to our reported Q4 2020 spreads.
We believe we will continue to see improvement longer term as the positive traffic and sales trends will support driving better rents. However, in the near-term, we anticipate that we will continue to see pressure on re-tenanting spreads this year, as we feel recaptured space with rental rates above the portfolio average.
Collections of contractual fixed rents billed in the first quarter of 2021 were approximately 95%. Through April 30, 2021, we collected 96% of the deferred 2020 rents due to be repaid in the first quarter and it collected 83% of all deferred 2020 rents leaving a balance of only $3.7 million. Given this run rate, we are comfortable with our outlook for future collections.
Meaningful rebound in traffic that we discussed last quarter had been sustained. For the first quarter, domestic traffic returned to 97% of the 2019 level, even as February traffic was impacted by severe winter weather and we were still operating at 20% fewer hours.
We believe a comparison to 2019 is more relevant as we started to feel the impacts of the pandemic during March of last year. Our strong and sustained traffic levels clearly reflects the attraction of our open air shopping centers, their dominant market locations and the value proposition that we offer to both our retailer partners and shoppers.
Note that in Canada, we had two unconsolidated JV properties, stores have been closed under government mandate through mid-February and are again closed under mandate. The trailing 12 months, 280 leases commenced totaling over 1.4 million square feet.
Rules executed or in process as of March 31st represented 52% of the space scheduled to expire during the year, compared to 63% at the same time last year. The slower than usual pace reflects our decision to strategically delay some of our renewal leasing activity as the overall economic and retail environments improve.
We continue to expand relationships with our traditional tenants and we are seeing a measured pace of new leasing activity with particular interest coming from the higher end brands. Developing new business with local and regional brands is one of our leasing priorities. This initiative provides compelling opportunities to add new and interesting concepts to our centers, and with it, more variety for our shoppers.
Additionally, we continue to expand our tenant mix beyond apparel and footwear, growing such categories as food and beverage, interactive and experiential, home decor design, housewares, sporting goods and gourmet grocers, as a result we are reimagining design elements for our centers.
In Grand Rapids, Michigan for example, we have created outdoor seating and a gathering space in connection with a new microbrew restaurant located in a formerly underutilized part of our center. In our Hilton Head Center, iconic gourmet grocer, Nantucket’s Meat and Fish is currently under construction for Memorial Day grand opening.
Our partnership with Fillogic, the logistics-as-a-service platform in Deer Park, has provided for 5,000 square feet of a micro-distribution hub aimed at providing lower cost and efficient distribution solutions for our retailers and shoppers.
We continue to deliver strong pop-up leasing activity, which serves several important functions, introducing new brands to the outlet channel that may convert to long-term permanent tenants, creating retail vibrancy in an otherwise dark store, providing variety to the center and more choice for our shoppers, delivering immediate NOI contributions, and in certain cases, allowing us to maintain occupancy on a temporary basis as we defer long-term leases for market improvement.
This tenancy represented approximately 8.6% of our consolidated portfolio total GLA as of March 31, 2021. So elevated from previous levels, this is a proven approach that has historically benefited our centers.
Since joining Tanger one year ago, our top priority has been evolving our operational discipline by empowering our field leadership team to drive local leasing, business development and operational efficiencies at the center level. These efforts have proven effective and are reflected in our better than planned short-term leasing, paid media and operating expense contributions.
Revenues derived from non-rental transactions such as paid media and sponsorships also provide a significant contribution to the other revenues line in the first quarter of 2021, driving a 14% increase year-over-year.
We have decentralized shopping center operations with each center’s management team now participating in revenue generation and empowered with decision-making authority regarding operating expenses. At the same time, we are centralizing certain procurement activities to benefit from the scale our organization.
One thing that COVID environment reinforced is the importance of meeting the customer where they are and creating a more personalized experience. Our marketing and digital transformation teams have continued to expand our virtual shopper offering, curbside pickup with fluid interactive capabilities, and live stream shopping and offered digital pre-shopping on the Tanger app and website.
Our digital initiatives are aimed at creating a highly personalized relationship for users and further building our loyalty base, by providing more relevant offers and content to our individual shoppers. Our operating strategy evolves. Our commitment to environmental, social and governance efforts remains unchanged.
In 2021, we have launched a comprehensive materiality assessment conducted by a third-party to ensure that we are addressing the ESG issues most important to our stakeholders and that these issues are integrated into our core values.
Our board and executive leadership team are engaged on ESG issues impacting the organization and we are investing time and resources to grow our diversity, equity and inclusion program. We believe that education is essential to embedding DE&I throughout our culture and are launching unconscious bias training for our senior leadership team, which will be rolled out throughout the organization.
We are also investing in our communities in new ways, including through our newly implemented small business owner outreach initiative. Through this program we are offering opportunities for new and existing businesses in our communities to set up shop in Tanger centers supported by our proprietary suite of services to help them incubate and grow. In 2021, we will continue our efforts to streamline ESG reporting so that the data is more accessible to stakeholders and easier to navigate.
To improve our transparency in reporting on our ESG efforts, we will begin to implement the recommendations of the task force on climate-related financial disclosures during 2021 with a focus on reducing greenhouse gas emissions, energy performance, biodiversity, water usage and waste management.
These projects have impact on the global environment, broader Tanger’s environmental efforts beyond our immediate footprint and provide additional opportunities to engage with our employees, retailers and shoppers.
Our team remains focused on a return to sustained growth. We have strengthened our balance sheet and are exploring selective growth opportunities. We are restarting our marketing efforts for our planned Nashville development, and as restrictions are lifted, prospective tenants are making safe visits. Progress we are making across each of our strategic priorities gives us confidence that we will create long-term value for our shareholders.
I would now like to turn the call over to Jim Williams to take you through our financial results, balance sheet and outlook for the remainder of 2021. Jim?
Thank you, Steve. First quarter results showed continued positive momentum but reflect the ongoing impact of the pandemic, recent bankruptcies and brand-wide restructurings. First quarter core FFO available to common shareholders was $0.40 per share, compared to $0.50 per share in the first quarter of 2020. Core FFO for the first quarter of 2021 excludes general and administrative expense of $2.4 million or $0.02 per share for compensation costs related to a voluntary retirement plan and other executive severance costs.
Same Center NOI for the consolidated portfolio decreased 8% for the quarter. This reflects the rent modifications and store closings from recent bankruptcy and brand-wide restructurings, partially offset by the reversal of approximately $1.6 million in reserves related to rent previously deferred or under negotiation.
Collections of contractual fixed rents built in the first quarter of 2021 were approximately 95%. We also continue to collect rents billed for prior periods including amounts related to 2020 that we allowed our tenant to defer till 2021. As of March 31, 2021, remaining rental revenue reserves for 2020 rents deferred or under negotiation totaled $2.6 million.
Implementing our ATM program, in March we opportunistically raised capital to reduce debt and strengthen our balance sheet. During the first quarter, we issued $6.9 million common shares that generated $128.7 million in net proceeds at a weighted average price of $19.02 per share.
We use the proceeds to reduce $25 million of borrowings under our $350 million unsecured term loan on March 11, 2021. And on April 30, we completed the partial early redemption of $150 million aggregate principal amount of our 3.875% senior notes due December 2023 for $163 million in cash. Subsequent to the redemption, $100 million remains outstanding. We have no significant debt maturities until December 2023.
As previously disclosed, we expect to take a charge in the second quarter of 2021 currently estimated to be approximately $14.1 million or $0.40 per share, including an approximately $13 million make-whole premium to be paid for the early redemption of the notes and $1.1 million in non-amortized debt discount and loan costs. The charge will impact our second quarter net income and FFO, but will have no impact on core FFO.
We expect the 2021 net dilutive impact per share to be approximately $0.12 for net income, $0.18 for FFO and $0.04 for core FFO. This reduction in debt improves our leverage ratio and enhances our balance sheet flexibility.
We have always prioritized maintaining a strong financial position. We will continue our disciplined and prudent approach to capital allocation. In addition to dividend distributions, sufficient to maintain REIT status, our priority uses of capital include, investing in our portfolio to grow NOI, reducing leverage to pre-COVID levels over time and evaluating selective growth opportunities over the longer term.
Our outlook for 2021 remains unchanged. While we are encouraged by the pace of our progress, we continue to anticipate pressure from current vacancies, additional potential store closures and rent modifications.
As I mentioned on our fourth quarter earnings call, we expect store closures during 2021 related to bankruptcies and brand-wide restructurings to total approximately 200,000 square feet during 2021. Including the 61,000 square feet we recaptured during the first quarter, most of the recapture should occur during the first half of the year.
Additionally, our guidance assumes there are no further domestic government mandated shutdowns and as assumes lease termination fees decrease by $9 million to $10 million or $0.09 per share to $0.10 per share from the elevated level we recognized in 2020.
Based on our current outlook, we continue to expect core FFO per share for 2021 to be between $1.47 and $1.57. We are maintaining this guidance despite the $0.04 dilutive impact previously discussed. For additional details on our key assumptions, please see our release issued last night.
I would now like to open it up for questions. Operator, can we take our first question.
[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Greg McGinniss with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Hey. Good morning. Steve, if I am not mistaken, the drop in occupancy this quarter was the smallest Q1 drop from Q4 and at least in the last 20 years. Could you talk about some of the factors that led to maintaining that occupancy and whether this means that maybe we finally turned the corner and could start to see occupancy recovery from here or maybe after absorbing a bit more space next quarter?
Well, Greg, as I said, at the -- in our last quarter meeting, leasing activity started to pick up in the fourth quarter of last year. We are seeing that momentum continue now represented by a number of new deals that we have done in the portfolio. Some exciting new stores are actually going to be opening up this quarter that we are excited about, Bloomingdales and Riverhead, Nantucket Meat and Fishing, Hilton Head.
But additionally, we think a lot of our national tenants are -- they are -- we are doing deals again. We have got a couple of portfolio wide deals that we are doing with a number of retailers that are expanding into our portfolio and we just took a look recently on our April occupancy. We are actually back up to 20 bps that we went backwards in the first quarter.
Okay. Great. And then with the rebound in foot traffic, are you starting to see a similar recovery in tenant sales as well?
Although, we are not reporting our tenant sales right now. We know anecdotally that the retailers are reporting better than anticipated and better than planned results. But obviously with the increase in foot traffic we are anticipating the sales will rebound as well. What we are looking at right now we have got some variable rent deals and we are seeing increases on those line items that are reflective of better than anticipated sales.
And sorry, just a final follow-up here, when do you think you might start reporting that the tenant sales number again?
We will have -- we will discuss that after this call but hopefully shortly.
Okay. Great. Thank you so much.
Thanks, Greg.
The next question comes from Katy McConnell with Citi. Please go ahead.
Great. Thank you. So, first, can you provide some more color on the decision to keep the guidance range unchanged and maybe you walk us through some of the factors that are offsetting the dilution you previously expected for the ATM?
Hi, Katy. This is Jim. As we said, the equity issuance on the ATM had a diluted impact about $0.04 a share. But we also had in the quarter a reversal of the deferred rent reserves that we had carried for 2020 rents. That’s about $1.6 million. So that’s helping offset that.
Just -- based on our current outlook right now and the positive trends we are seeing not only from the foot traffic and the sales from what we are hearing anecdotally just -- but also from the results we are seeing from decentralizing, empowering in our GMs to help drive local leasing and drive the revenues, so that based on our outlook. I think we wanted to leave our guidance the same where it is and we will revisit that as we move through the year.
Okay. Thanks. And then how much of a priority is it for you to continue to lower leverage from here in your discussion with the rating agency and what’s your appetite to raise additional ATM proceeds this year?
Well, Katy, we were so pleased that we put that ATM program in when we did at the right time and was able to have a great execution in issuing the shares and using those proceeds to bring down our leverage. And I think our net debt even had climbed into the low-7 and this debt paid down basically improves that my half a turn. I think we should be around in the mid-6s on a pro forma basis.
We -- ideally, I think, we like to get down to 6, and then, of course, there are two ways to do that. One is to grow EBITDA and that’s what we are laser focused on as -- from all the comments you have heard Steve make in his prepared remarks and just on the positive trends and the things that we are doing from ramping up leasing and all the positive results. The growth in EBITDA certainly is a part of that equation.
But it’s also advised that they have this tool and the toolkit with the ATM. So while there’s not an intimate need to issue the proceeds, it’s nice to have that and we can be opportunistic when market conditions permit.
All right. Great. Thank you.
The next question comes from Caitlin Burrows with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Hi. Good morning. You guys mentioned that you are making an effort to increase the other income I think from things like sponsorship. So can you give some details kind of on this plan where it is today and where you think it could be in a year or more?
Sure. Good morning. With regard to other income, I mentioned on prior quarters, we have added Executive Vice President who’s handling our property operations right now. One of our key focus is particularly in the field was to empower our field teams to help us through short-term leasing, marketing partnerships, as well as on shopping center expense management, and obviously, with the onset of COVID and the inability for a lot of people to travel, having a field-based team out generating revenue was a great strategy for us that came at a great time.
With all of that said, historically, we have over 150 million people a year visit our shopping centers. We think through monetizing sponsorship opportunity, things like EV parking and some of the bright walls and digital boards that we have on our shopping center, we were able to provide these revenue sources that we hadn’t explored in the past and so far they are bearing fruit for us.
From a short-term leasing point of view, our short-term leasing numbers are up over historic levels. But, again, we were opportunistic where we found the opportunity to take otherwise dark stores that we recaptured through bankruptcy or brand-wide restructuring and was able to go out into the marketplace and fill with some pretty interesting and iconic retailers that were in that particular market who never had the opportunity to have space in our shopping centers before.
And what we are hoping will come from some of these new relationships is future long-term leases. The short-term of which is we are providing variety for our customer. We are keeping our shopping centers vibrant and through some of the food and beverage initiatives that are new to some of these centers, we are extending dwell time at each of our shopping centers.
So, we think it’s a great strategy, one that we plan to improve on. And the big kicker is the fact that with these short-term leases, once the market continues to stabilize, you know, our traffic is increasing of our 2019 levels, our sales continue to improve, we can replace some of the short-term leases with some of our longer term tenants at far improved rents.
Just clarifying on that short-term leasing, is that included in other income or the rental revenue?
It’s the rental income.
Okay. Okay. And then on the operating expense side, they are down versus the average of 2019 and I know you just mentioned that managing expenses is a focus of yours. So I was wondering if you could go through to what extent you expect these savings could continue and whether lower occupancy may or may not impact your NOI margin if that’s the metric that you are keenly focused on.
Hi, Caitlin. It’s Jim. I think, first just keep in mind we still are operating under reduced hours. It was at 80% reduced. I think we just now increased that 90. So first quarter might be a little bit -- a run rate maybe a little bit higher going forward. But I think we are certainly encouraged by the teams that we are putting in place and the strategies that we have and empowered GMs to really manage and mitigate those expenses.
We are going to not give a lot of guidance. We are going to restrict it right now to FFO and in terms of the other metrics that go into that we will give you a little more color as we move through the year.
Okay. Thanks.
The next question comes from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Good morning. This is Ravi Vaidya on the line for Todd Thomas. Hope everyone is doing well. I saw the updated G&A range. Can you please break that down into the various investments that are being made to the platform? And how much of these expenses are recurring versus one-time, would we be able to see this go back to historical levels or is this the new G&A range to model going forward?
Good morning, Ravi. So, just from a topline G&A, a lot of that expense is investing in people. So some of the investments that we have made I mentioned earlier the Executive Vice President enjoined us to manage property operations.
We made -- we have added to our team somebody to handle our development on a going forward basis. He’s also going to be focused on monetizing our peripheral land. We have added to our team an SVP of FP&A also going to help us on future merger and acquisition business that we are working on. So we are building a seasoned team over here and we are investing in that team.
Another line item is our -- we are investing in our digital transformation where we are creating a digital experience for our customer -- for our shoppers that creates a little bit more of a personalized experience. So as we market to our 1.5 million Tanger VIPs and our 11 million Tanger insiders, we do so in a very targeted manner and we think that that’s something that we are going to continue to invest in and that’s a business that will ultimately return in future years.
And Ravi, this is Jim.
Okay.
I mean just to point out I think we have pointed this out in the release. I am sure you saw it. But just to make sure it’s clear for everyone on the call that in our guidance range of $59 million to $62 million is $2.4 million of compensation cost that was related to a voluntary retirement plan that would not be recurring.
Okay. Thank you. And just can you please provide an update on the Nashville project? How’s pre-leasing trending and are we still forecasted to break ground later this year?
Yeah. Look, the Nashville project is we are turning the marketing back on. A lot of our retailer partners are able to travel again. We have got a number of site visits planned in the next coming weeks and months and we control the land, we are optimistic. But, again, we are not going to break ground until we hit that 60% leasing threshold. That’s our goal.
Thank you. Appreciate the color.
The next question comes from Floris van Dijkum with Compass Point. Please go ahead.
Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I had a question, so the first question I guess is regarding the leasing spreads. It’s encouraging that the negative spreads are getting smaller I suppose. But can you comment on when you think that lease spreads will basically be flat lined or when will they turn positive in your view. Can you give some guidance around that or some color around that?
Well, I will give color, but I am not going to give guidance, Floris. But with regard to color, yeah, look, we are encouraged that we are moving in the right direction. We are narrowing the spreads. We still have a lot of work to do. We got unprecedented levels of space back last year due to the accelerated bankruptcies from COVID, a lot of brand-wide restructuring.
And again our strategy has been to replace a lot of that space with short-term leases while we ride the market out. If we take a look our traffic has increased over 2019 levels. We think our sales are coming back with the same energy. We will be able to replace a lot of the space at higher rents because we are strategically waiting for that market to improve.
And then as I think about some of the potential upside here as well, can you remind us again what’s the typical impact is to NOI converting temp tenants to permanent tenancies?
Well, out typical long-term deals are fixed rent deals with triple nets and a percentage rent kicker. They are longer term, they are more secured and once again we are seeing a lot of that long-term lease activity taking place right now. Hopefully, we will announce some more real exciting deals in the next quarter.
But our leasing pipeline is extremely strong and our retailers they love our outlet venues. They love the outlet format and we anticipate replacing a lot of the short-term leasing with long-term leasing in the foreseeable future.
Just again there -- and my perspective it’s more on the mall side and typically converting a temp tenant to permanent and going from a gross rent to a net or more of a net type structure. You could see an impact and an uptick in NOI of 25% to 35% on that space. Is that the kind of thing that we could be expecting on your 8% or 8.5% temp tenancies?
Well, again, we are not providing guidance on rents. But what I can say is that, with the increase in traffic levels and with this sales improvement, we feel pretty good that our rents will follow.
Thank you. That’s it for me.
Thanks, Floris.
The next question comes from Victoria Francis with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Given many of your properties are near popular drive-thru travel destinations, what is your outlook on domestic tourism heading into the summer months and to what extent could this drive sales for your tenants if tourism does pick up?
Victoria, I am sorry, I missed the second part of your question. Can you ask that again?
Yeah. Just to what extent do you think that if tourism does pick up, could that drive sales for your tenants?
Okay and thank you. Well, as we saw as early as third quarter of last year, our drive-thru tourist’s destination shopping centers were extremely popular. With very little else to do, no sporting events or concerts, etcetera, our open-air shopping centers seemed to be the go-to destination for a lot of folks that were doing traveling in those particular regions.
I mentioned in the last quarter as I traveled from the northeast to the south during the holiday period, the amount of people that were housed about Q4 shopping on our shopping centers was pretty staggering.
And once, again, opening our shopping venues being a great go-to location for people to, not only enjoy the sport of shopping, but also the entertainment component, some of the experiential stores that we have stood up, as well as some of the new food and beverage installations that we have.
So we think this trend is going to continue, particularly into the summer months. A lot of our marketing initiatives and our targeted digital initiatives are focused on speaking to those particular shoppers that are traveling into those destinations and we are very optimistic about the traffic, particularly going into the summer continuing to build, as it has in April and in Q1.
Okay. Thank you.
The next question comes from Mike Mueller with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Hi. Just a quick one on the -- we talked 8% of I think square footage are tied to shorter term tenants. How does that 8% number compare when you think of it on an AVR basis? Is that portion that’s shorter term in nature, is that smaller than the 8%?
Hey, Mike. This is -- Mike, this is Jim.
Hi.
If I understand your question, are you saying how does AVR from the tenants compare to a normal?
Well, I am saying, guys, I think it was 8 percentage -- 8% of square footage was on shorter term leases. So if you think about that in terms of AVR that you are looking at on the P&L, is -- are the -- is the short-term component significantly different than 8% of revenues if you follow me?
Yes. Mike, this is Cyndi. So, 8% in terms of GLA for tenants is going to be less AVR than 8%.
Yes. Yes.
Okay. Is it a lot less or is it kind of in that same zip code just a little bit less?
It’s less.
Less. Okay. Okay.
Yeah. And the …
That was it. Thank you.
And Mike, the short-term leases will pay lower rents. But just remember…
Yeah.
…it’s also a lower capital investment for us. It gives us a chance at the cash flow, the property and they are all over the board and some of them really have a variable rent component. So if they drive sales and they are successful, then they can drive the revenues as well.
Yeah. No. I got that. That all makes sense. I just wasn’t sure if we are looking at the income statement, maybe 2% if it’s, 2% or 3% of the revenues are really tight of that shorter term stuff where optically when you hear 8%. It’s a much bigger number in a square footage basis. But, okay. That’s helpful. Thank you.
The next question comes from Samir Khanal with Evercore. Please go ahead.
Yes. Steve, you mentioned a couple times that you are looking at selected growth opportunities. Maybe expand on that a little bit. I am just trying to see where so the potential upside that can come to your portfolio as we think about the long-term here?
Good morning, Samir. Well, look, we are not going to make a practice talking about things that we are looking at until we are under contract and we announce them. But we definitely think there’s great opportunity. I have mentioned on previous calls that 1% of the nation’s retail is outlet and we think there’s certainly opportunity to expand on that.
So we -- with the addition of Pete Walkin [ph] who’s our SVP of Development, a large part of his job is going to be to help us build our pipeline. There’s a number of things that we are currently looking at and working on and I am hopeful that we can make those announcements in the near future.
Okay. Thanks so much.
This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Steve Tanger for any closing remarks.
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