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Earnings Call Transcript
2018-Q4

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q4 2018 OGE Energy Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today’s conference is being recorded for replay purposes.

It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to your host Todd Tidwell. Please go ahead.

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Todd Tidwell
Director, IR

Thank you, Eileen, and good morning everyone, and welcome to OGE Energy Corp.'s fourth quarter 2018 earnings call. I'm Todd Tidwell, Director of Investor Relations and with me today I have Sean Trauschke, Chairman, President and CEO of OGE Energy Corp.; and Steve Merrill, CFO of OGE Energy Corp.

In terms of the call today, we will first hear from Sean followed by an explanation from Steve of yearend and fourth quarter results and finally, as always, we will answer your questions.

I would like to remind you that this conference is being webcast and you may follow along on our website at ogeenergy.com. In addition, the conference call and accompanying slides will be archived following the call on that same website. Before we begin the presentation, I would like to direct your attention to the Safe Harbor statement regarding forward-looking statements.

This is an SEC requirement for financial statements and simply states that we cannot guarantee forward-looking financial results, but this is our best estimate to-date. I would also like to remind you that there is a Regulation G reconciliation for gross margin in the Appendix.

I will now turn the call over to Sean Trauschke for his opening comments. Sean?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Thank you, Todd, and good morning everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. Earlier this morning, we reported 2018 consolidated earnings of $2.12 per share compared to $1.92 for 2017 net of tax reform. Steve will discuss the details of full year earnings in the fourth quarter in a moment. But I’d like to discuss this year’s accomplishments.

Looking back, I believe that 2018 will be regarded as one of the most accomplished years in our 117-year history. I’m most proud of our safety performance finishing number one in the Southeast Electric Exchange and shattering our safety records set to previous two years.

Our mission to deliver safe, reliable and affordable energy to our customers is intact. In March we brought our 10 megawatt solar farm online Covington, the completion of the Mustang Energy Center followed in April, we also installed scrubbers on two coal-fired units at Sooner and converted two units from coal to natural gas at Muskogee.

The Mustang and Sooner projects will both have substantial scale requiring numerous contractors, hundreds of workers and millions of work hours. The both projects were completed on time significantly under budget and with no loss-time injuries is a testament to the hard work and commitment of all involved.

As we look at our entire fleet, our overall plan emissions are significantly lower from 2005 levels. Sulphur dioxide emissions are nearly 90% lower, nitrogen oxide emissions are 75% lower and CO2 is down by 40% and we’re not done. We fully expect the CO2 reduction of 50% by 2030.

In December, we announced our intention to acquire the Shady Point plant in Southeast Oklahoma and the Oklahoma Co-Gen plant in Oklahoma City. The purchase price is approximately $53 million for over 500 megawatts of capacity. This will replace capacity currently provided by costly, federally mandated power purchase contracts. The acquisitions are expected to save customers tens of millions of dollars per year and will help mitigate the negative economic impact Shady Point’s closure would have had in one of the states more challenged regions.

In 2018, we drove continued improvement in customer reliability and added another year of strong performance from our fleet. Our assets continued to perform in high levels with improvements in both E4 and Shady and we see improvement in our already high customer satisfaction scores continuing to move the needle in the right direction for our customers.

Another enhancement to the customer alert platform including billing notifications and payment confirmations by tech, email or voice and now even a text to pay options. in 2018, our crews were once again called to assist in restoration efforts in Puerto Rico, North Carolina and we were honored to receive two EEI emergency assistance awards for these efforts.

The first stage of our grid modernization investment is nearing completion in Arkansas. This space impacts more than 22,000 customers and includes 14 total circuits, 220 miles of distribution circuits and replacement of 250 distribution transforms. The completed circuits are already exceeding our performance expectations, technology assets and starts since midsummer that significantly improved the customer experience. Project construction on Arkansas second phase of this grid modernization work is set to begin in April.

On the regulatory front, we reached a settlement in mid year that provided for full recovery of our Mustang investments while supporting regional energy grid reliability and resiliency. The agreement also ensured Oklahoma customers received the timely benefit of tax savings.

In October we made our first Arkansas Formula Rate planning and earlier this month reached the settlement with party. Following Commission approval new rates will begin in Arkansas on April 1.

In December, we made a preapproval file in Oklahoma for the Shady Point and Oklahoma Co-Gen plant. We also filed a rate review on Oklahoma for the recovery of our investment in the Sooner Muskogee projects. In those filings we’re seeking a 9.9% ROE and a change in depreciation rates along with additional dismantlement accruals for aging assets.

Fortunately, the termination of the costly CO-Gen capacity payment will help minimize the impact to customers. The total rate change is approximately $78 million and I’m optimistic the order will be timely as we’ve seen with recent rulings in the state.

All of these accomplishments were made while keeping our rates 31% below the national average. By any measure 2018 was an outstanding year. And to Enable, Steve and I could not be more proud of the management team and employees that continue to create value there. They exceeded guidance projections for EBITDA, DCF, net income and distribution coverage, gathered volumes have increased for 12 straight quarters and Enable currently has 54 rigs drilling on its system highlighting their prime acreage dedications in the SCOOP and STACK areas.

In 2018, Enable deployed capital which significantly expanded the business portfolio and announced the go-front project with this 20-year commitment with Golden Pass LNG. And finally, Enable distributions to OGE were $141 million for the year. By the end of this year, we’d have received over $1 billion in cash distributions from Enable since inception.

Before turning the call over to Steve, I want to reiterate that our priority is to invest in our service territories, operating on the consistent model of investing with real customer benefits and widening the economic competitive advantage our communities have with our rates of 31% below the national average.

In fact, since 2011, we’ve invested approximately $5.5 billion in the utility and our rates are actually lower today. We’ve consistently seen low growth in the 1% range even with energy efficiency gains. We’re watching and we continue to watch population growth, economic development successes and other positive trends which could push low growth higher. Obviously, this is good for our communities and good for our company.

Our plan this year is to complete the two Oklahoma filings, finalize approval of the Arkansas settlement in our Formula Rate filing and continue to receive distributions from Enable. As these outcomes are realized we will further refine our investment and dividend plans.

We’ve built a strong company and the company for the long term. There will be challenges along the way, but let me be clear. We will continue to execute, we will continue to learn and we will continue to grow for the benefit of all of our stakeholders. The actions we’ve taken with our fleet, with our rage, debt portfolio and the positive outcomes we’ve delivered for our customers. They all point to a modeled long term success.

So thank you, and now I’ll turn the call over to Steve to review our financial results for the quarter and for the full year 2018. Steve?

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Steve Merrill
CFO

Thank you, Sean. Good morning everyone. For the fourth quarter we reported net income of $55 million or $0.27 per share as compared to net income of $295 million or $1.48 per share in 2017. You will recall in the fourth quarter of 2017 as a result of tax reform, there was a $1.18 per share gain due to the re-measurement of deferred taxes at the natural gas midstream business.

The contribution by business unit on a comparative basis is listed on the slide. For the full year of 2018, we reported earnings of $426 million or $2.12 per share as compared to net income of $619 million or $3.10 per share in 2017. The 2018 results for the holding company are nearly flat with 2017. We anticipate in 2019 the loss to be between $0 and $0.02.

In 2017, tax reform accounted for $235 million or an additional $1.18 per share resulting from our investment in Enable. At OG&E net income for the quarter was $21 million or $0.10 per share as compared to the net income of $42 million or $0.21 per share in 2017.

For the quarter, gross margin decreased approximately $18 million in part due to the impacts of tax reform on rates. O&M was essentially flat for the quarter. Depreciation expense increased by approximately $5 million for the quarter due to additional plant and service including the Mustang CT, Covington solar farm and the Windspeed II line.

Net other income decreased approximately $12 million due to the lower AFUDC and tax gross up related to the completion of the Mustang Energy Center and environmental projects. Finally, income tax expense decreased approximately $18 million primarily due to the decrease in the federal tax rate.

Now turning to the full year at OG&E, net income for the year was $328 million or $1.64 per share as compared to net income of $306 million or $1.53 per share in 2017. Gross margin for 2018 increased $14 million which I will discuss on the next slide.

Looking at the key drivers for the year, they’re very similar to the quarter, increased depreciation and lower AFUDC and net other income our result of new assets being placed in the service and income tax expense decreased due in part to the decrease in the federal tax rate.

Turning to 2018 gross margin, utility margins increased approximately $14 million in 2018 compared to 2017. Margin was higher due to the following. Warmer summer weather translated into an increase of $43 million as compared to 2017. Compared to normal weather increased margin by nearly $18 million.

New customer growth contributed approximately $8 million. We added 7,500 customers over the past year growing near our historical 1%. Demand revenues and industrial and oilfield sales combined increased margin by nearly $13 million for the year. Partially offsetting these increases was the impact of tax reform and customer rates which were offset by lower income tax expense.

OGE Energy Holdings received cash distributions from Enable Midstream of approximately $141 million and contributed earnings of $109 million or $0.54 per share compared to $324 million or $1.62 per share in 2017. The Enable board approved a limited partner distribution of $31.8 per unit that will be paid February 26.

2018 was another exceptional year for Enable. Record operational performance with the highest natural gas gathered, natural gas processed and crude oil and condensate gathered volumes. On the financial side they achieved higher revenues, net income, gross margin, adjusted EBITDA and distributable cash flow for the year compared to 2017.

They also recently announced they have entered into a $1 billion 3-year term loan facility that significantly enhances their liquidity and financial flexibility. The Enable management team continues to grow the business with cost discipline and capital efficiencies. They ended the year with a strong balance sheet and a distribution coverage of 1.38 times. The distribution coverage funded approximately 34% of the year’s organic expansion capital. They've reaffirmed their 2019 outlook.

Turning to 2019 guidance at the utility and assuming normal weather, we project earnings per share to be between a $1.55 and $1.62 per share. For the midstream business we're projecting earnings contribution to be between $0.52 and $0.58 per share. We're projecting consolidated earnings between $2.05 and $2.20 per share.

Looking further into the utility outlook, you can see the detailed assumptions on the slide. Few key points I want to make relative to 2019 guidance are that we anticipate new rates in Arkansas by April 1, and in Oklahoma by July 1. We assume our historical growth rate of 1% and expect O&M to increase less than 1% from 2018 actual results.

It is also important to remember that OG&E has significant seasonality in its earning and typically shows the majority of earnings in the second and third quarters due to the seasonal nature of air-conditioning demand.

This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now open the call to your questions.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Julien Dumoulin Smith of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.

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Unidentified Analyst

Hey good morning this is actually Richie Ciciarelli here for Julien.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Hi Ritchie, good morning, how are you today?

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Unidentified Analyst

Doing well. Just wanted to touch base on your grid modernization program in Oklahoma and it seems like stakeholders might be opened to performance space rates given some of the feedback to instate peer rate case. But it's less clear about actual riders or trackers we granted, just wondering how the education process is going around the grid model request?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes, so good question, couple of things going on there. We have a great program underway in Arkansas that's achieving, I mean really exceeding our expectations. So we are going to conclude that first phase here next month and we are going to share that with Oklahoma kind of the real customer benefits that we are seeing. So that will be a real good example of what we are going to do there.

But at the same time we don't want to get out in front of our skies. We want to make sure that we get these two Oklahoma filings resolved. We are making a consorted effort to keep our filings very simple and straightforward and really around singular issues. And so, while we will begin some education process we are not going to begin making any filings until we get the existing ones resolved. Does that help?

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Unidentified Analyst

That helps. That makes lot of sense. And then, just in terms of, it looks like some of the capital in your plan shifted from 21 to some other years. What's sort of the moving pieces going on there. And how do you execute kind of within the plan?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Sure. That's really just trued up, as we have more granularity into our actual plans on how we will spend especially grid mod and do maintenance on our distribution system. What you can really expect is a pretty consistent around $600 million a year in each of the years, but each year that's going to true up a little bit as we decide more clarity.

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Unidentified Analyst

Got it and I mean, assuming I mean, not trying to put the cart before the horse but assuming you could be successful in a grid mod request is 600 million still kind of the full run rate level?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Sure that's a very comfortable rate. The question is could be higher or lower yes, but I think it helped us to balance that and make sure that we achieve all the benefits.

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Unidentified Analyst

Great, thank you. That's all I had.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Thank you. Have a good day.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Paul Ridzon of KeyBanc. Your line is now open.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

Good morning Sean and Steve.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Good morning.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

It looks like midstream did a little better than the top end of guidance, kind of what drove that?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Part of that is, they did have mark- to-market gains on their hedging. I think that was around $26 million or so, so that drove it up just a bit.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

And then, what was the impact of weather in the quarter versus normal?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Weather for the quarter versus normal was about $0.02 higher about $6 million.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

In the epic versus 2017?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

It was about a penny, just under $3 million.

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Steve Merrill
CFO

Positive, yes.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

And what's driving the outlook for lower holding company losses for 2019?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

We just had some noise associated with tax reform. We also as our -- so our deferred comp program expenses actually go there and we can't invest in OGE stock in that so we have to invest in an index and when our stock over performs that creates a loss that the holding company. So it was actually a good new situation that we have those expenses, our stock actually outperform the index.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

Got it and then lastly, how is your outreach with the parties going regarding what I thought was a punitive depreciation outcome in the last rate case or two rate cases?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes. I mean, you saw that there was much more support for correcting that in the last case, but it didn't make its way through the settlement but there were parties, in particularly the staff that was supportive of our depreciation position. My view on that is, I think everyone recognizes what needs to happen there and Paul I'm not anticipating that we're going to flip it all back all in one case. But I think we are going to make progress on that and incrementally get those depreciation rates back to where they need to be.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

Thank you very much.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Thanks. See you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Charles Fishman of Morningstar Research. Your line is now open.

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Charles Fishman
Morningstar Research

Thank you, good morning. I've lost track of what happened to the committee formed in Oklahoma that I think was a select committee, special committee to evaluate the structure of the OCC. Did that ever issue its final report?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

They did. They issued their final report in middle of November and there are a number of recommendations really around, but nothing I would characterize it as like we anticipated that there were opportunities for how everyone could kind of work together and streamline the operations and become more efficient. There weren't any strong recommendations on the structure of the commission in terms of whether there ought to be more or fewer commissioners, whether they ought to be appointed or elected. They didn't go down that path.

The one interesting point that came out of there though that there was recommendation as it relates to allowing the commissioners to talk to one another outside of a called meeting where that fell under the open meetings request. So the ability for the commissioners to engage one another and build a relationship was one of the recommendations and we certainly support that.

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Charles Fishman
Morningstar Research

But with respect to what you call streamline riders whatever you want to call it, they really didn't address that which would have helped the visibility of how you're going to do the grid modernization, correct?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Right, there's no linkage there. That's correct.

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Charles Fishman
Morningstar Research

And so as I understood -

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

But Charles, just so we're clear there was no statutory restriction for them to grant riders or anything like that. The commission has done that in the past, we have riders today. There's no issue there and with regards to their ability to grant riders.

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Charles Fishman
Morningstar Research

And then so, based on the answer to a previous question your strategy is to, the Sooner rate case, the other rate case let those get settled mid-year and then really hit this hard of how you're going to address recovery on grid modernization is that -- do I understand that correctly?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

I think that's a very fair assessment. Now that being said, we're talking and educating people on what's coming up. But as far as new regulatory filings we're going to keep these very straightforward one at a time.

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Charles Fishman
Morningstar Research

And I think, I suspect that your story would be look at our rates, look at what happened in Arkansas when we had formula rate mechanism that's the message you'll be sending?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

That's exactly right. We may call you to be a witness too Charles. That was well done.

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Charles Fishman
Morningstar Research

Well, thank you. That's the only thing I had.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Thanks and have a good day.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Greg Reese of [Indiscernible]. Your line is now open.

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Unidentified Analyst

Hi guys, can you hear me?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Hi Greg, good morning.

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Unidentified Analyst

Good morning and congrats on good report. Two quick questions; just wanted to see the utility tax rates taken down a little bit in 2019. Just wanted to see what was driving that?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Sure, there's really three main drivers; the largest of which is just federal wind tax credit. We've got some investment tax credits that impact that and then you just got the impact of tax reform as we're amortizing the ADIT give back that brings down our net effective tax rate.

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Unidentified Analyst

And how much ADIT is going back? I know there is like protected and unprotected piece just wanted to see if you kind of have -

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes, for 2019 that'll be about $38 million.

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Unidentified Analyst

For both protected and unprotected?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes, that's all in at this point.

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Unidentified Analyst

Got you and over how many years is that going to be going back?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

It's about 30 years.

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Unidentified Analyst

30 years.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

It's all tied to the asset life so that number will change every year but that's where it is for 2019.

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Unidentified Analyst

Got you, so somewhere in like the $30 odd million per year is a good number to use for that?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

It ebbs and flows, it can be a little less than that at times but that's not a bad, around 30 million is probably not a bad number.

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Unidentified Analyst

And what's the cash tax rate on Enable distributions?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

I mean, we don't really look at it that way because we're just a corporate tax payer. So it all just goes into OGE's bucket.

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Unidentified Analyst

Got you, but the statutory book rates somewhere in like the 25% range?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes that's right. That's correct.

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Unidentified Analyst

Got you and one last one, what's 2018 year end rate base across the company?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

That number is about 6.5 billion.

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Unidentified Analyst

Perfect. That is all I had. Appreciate it guys.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Thanks Greg.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Vedula Murti of Avon Capital. Your line is now open.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

Hi, good morning Sean.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Hi good morning, Vedula, how have you been? I haven't talked to you in a while.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

I am doing fine. Thank you very much.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Good.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

Couple of things, one for 2018 what was the earned ROEs in the regular jurisdictions for Oklahoma and Arkansas?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

So in Oklahoma we're very close to our allowed return. Obviously we had probably in the 9% range obviously we had two big assets coming into service. So we're a little bit below that but that'll all get trued up. And then Arkansas, right there at the allowed.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

And if you can remind me, in terms of Enable beyond the distribution you get on your shares and the cash flow you get per your general partnership, ownership what else causes variability in terms of income recognition from Enable?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

I mean, we just recognize our proportional share of the net income to the common unit holders. So the variability would be just the variability in the business commodity exposure however I'll mention 97% of their margin is either fee-based or hedge. You do have exposure to volume swings. And then, what they do to help mitigate that is that I have a hedging program but you will have mark-to-market adjustments associated with that. Those are the key variables.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

Okay. Because I was taking a look at these with some of Wall Street, how is the outlook? It's quite variable but it seems based on I guess commodity forecast and things of that nature but until that big pipeline I think you referenced in your script, it actually comes into service.

It appears that underlying growth absent tailwinds of commodity and activity is fairly modest.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

They've done a good job there of balancing the business. And since we formed Enable, we've been focused on the cash distributions to our company and even in some very significant downturns in the commodity market, the cash flow at our company's been stable. And I think that's a really good thing.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

No, I certainly appreciate that. And I guess in terms of the utilities going forward here, if we get to $600 million of our CapEx which is higher than which you have in the slide deck here on an ongoing basis. It appears that the rate base growth and aggregate maybe about 4.5% net with DD&A.

So, usually that and the earnings growth is probably something close to that maybe modestly less than that over a period of time. Is that a fair characterization?

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Steve Merrill
CFO

But I think our stated guidance around earnings growth rate utilities 4% to 6%, and we're very comfortable with that.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

Okay. And I guess, in the past you've talked about once you get through this right case at the end of the year, once you've -- as everyone calls it 10% dividend growth for the year 2019, and then you'll establish dividend policy and basically I just back with our term capital allocation policy, at some point towards the end of this year.

Can you remind me again kind of what's kind of what how what you might be thinking about using the past reference here a possibility of stock buybacks is part of capital allocation as well and also maybe current thoughts in terms of M&A?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes. so, what we said is we certainly want to get through the two Oklahoma filings, we want to see the finalization of the Arkansas Formula Rate implementation April 1st, you mentioned Enable there were certainly monitoring Enable going forward to see if there's what's going on there in terms of future distributions.

But you're exactly right. We made a five year commitment to grow the dividend 10% a year for five years to the end of '19. We're going to watch those mile markers I just mentioned, we're going to go through that. And our focus there is to grow. And our focus there is the kind of create a real return proposition for our shareholders and line of sight and regulatory recoveries important to us.

And we will make sure we have that before we get too far out over our skies on commitment and then certainly we have the opportunity around the dividend. We do intend to grow the earnings of the company and the dividends of the company. And I think we're going to have a very good return proposition. I think I'll just leave with that.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

One last thing you featured, I guess when you think about what would be kind of like the objectives, our payout ratio over the extended period of time after you kind of come to your conclusions. Do you have a recur range here, you said you are kind of working with to figure out how the pieces set?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes. And we've not really -- I'm not focused this much on a payout ratio. We're unique in that, we have a source of cash flow coming out of the Enable that certainly we value tremendously. We think there is a lot of upside there because of our IDR ownership as well.

But the way we're thinking about it is in terms of a return proposition between dividends and earnings and we're certainly going to be cognizant of what the market is I'm recognizing and paying for. But no we don’t have a payout ratio guideline per se. I will tell you we were not anticipating or not expecting and would not be interested in something that was 90% plus payout EBITDA.

I mean, it's kind of hard to grow when your payout ratio is that high. But nevertheless we're focused on return proposition.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

Okay. One last question, I apologize. You mentioned the IDR. What is the annual cash flow you receive associated with your GP interest?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Well, today they are not in the IDR splits, so that is zero today and by going forward we have 60% of the IDRs.

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Vedula Murti
Avon Capital

Okay, thank you very much.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

All right, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Shahriar Pourreza of Guggenheim Securities. Your line is now open.

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Unidentified Analyst

Hi, guys. It's actually Konstantin here for Shahriar. A lot of questions have been answered. I just wanted to kind of taking a high couple of numbers but I saw that the actual sales stats have been pretty robust for this year due to weather and kind of the hitting the good days and what not.

Can you comment on kind of the underlying normalized low growth that you're seeing in the area?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

We are we continue to see 1% and that's really overcoming a lot of what we see on the residential side in terms of energy efficiency, pickups that we've been helping to promote. And so, the economy is robust and we are watching very closely some of the local economic forecast around population growth and things like that.

We've had a number of economic development successes that we're very involved in. and so, we're watching these indicators in terms of whether low growth actually could be higher in the future.

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Unidentified Analyst

Okay, that answers that. And another one around kind of looking from the operating stats for kind of fuel costs per kilowatt-hour. I think that the trends been coming down but kind of including purchase power, the number seems like it could further kind of mitigate some of the rate increases.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes. I think that is right on point.

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Unidentified Analyst

Do you see a timeline for kind of how that goes, is there any specific kind of purchase power contracts that are rolling off except for the one that's obviously you're in the process of the acquisition.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Yes. That one you mentioned about, that's going to reduce cost to customer significantly. We are seeing that benefit to customers because of our fuel expense, certainly not having as many purchased obligations helps to and that's a fixed obligation. And so, that certainly helps us.

The other thing that I think is really important in you hear this phrase a lot about fuel diversity but our fleet being positioned the way it is, we're able to satisfy our customers and keep our rates low and remove that volatility, where we're totally led to particular weather, the weather environment or gas prices or anything like that.

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Unidentified Analyst

Right. And I guess just one short follow-up to that. Is there any more kind of contracts in 2019, 2020 timeframe that you kind of see rolling off or?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

None that have a roll off date defined in the near term.

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Unidentified Analyst

Okay. Yes thanks, that answers for me.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. And we do have a follow-up question from Paul Ridzon of KeyBanc. Your line is now open.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

I think Enable had some capacity additions that kind of helped the back-end of the year. When did those come online?

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

I think you're talking about Wildcat. And I don’t remember the exact date when that came online but they did come on in 2018, the CaSE Project Wildcat, they did the Velocity acquisition they added to the crude oil system. But off the top of my head, I do not remember the exact in service dates of those.

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Paul Ridzon
KeyBanc

Okay. I'll trickle back. Thank you.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's question and answer session. I would like to turn the call back to Sean Trauschke for any closing remarks.

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Sean Trauschke
Chairman, President and CEO

Thank you, Hailey. And thank you all for your interest in participation today. Should you have any follow-up questions on time in case, we're certainly available to answer those.

And have a great day!

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may now disconnect.

Everyone, have a great day!