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Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Nomad Foods Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] mode. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jason English, Head of Investor Relations.
Hello, and welcome to Nomad Foods Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. I'm Jason English, Head of Investor Relations, and I'm joined on the call by Stefan Descheemaeker, our CEO; and Ruben Baldew, our CFO. By now, everyone should have access to the earnings release for the period ended September 30, 2024, that was published at approximately 6:45 a.m. Eastern Time. The press release and investor presentation are available on Nomad Foods website at www.nomadfoods.com.
This call is being webcast, and a replay will be available on the company's website. This conference call will include forward-looking statements that are based on our view of the company's prospects, expectations and intentions at this time. Actual results may differ due to risks and uncertainties that are discussed in our press release. Our filings with the SEC and in our investor presentation, which includes cautionary language. We will also discuss non-IFRS financial measures during the call today.
These non-IFRS financial measures should not be considered a replacement for and should be read together with IFRS results. Users can find the IFRS to non-IFRS reconciliations within our earnings release and in the appendices at the end of the slide presentation available on our website. Please note that certain financial information within the presentation represents adjusted figures for 2023 and 2024.
All adjusted figures have been adjusted primarily for share-based payment expenses and related employer payroll taxes non-operating M&A-related costs, acquisition purchase price adjustments, exceptional items and foreign currency translation charges or gains. Unless otherwise noted, comments from here will refer to those adjusted numbers. With that, I will hand it over to Stefan.
Thank you, Jason. Nomad Food delivered another quarter of solid top and bottom line performance. I'm pleased with the progress our teams continue to make in accelerating profitable volume growth. The third quarter was our ninth consecutive quarter of organic sales growth and our second consecutive quarter of volume growth. The growth continues to be concentrated behind our profitable [indiscernible] battles and growth platforms, which are yielding healthy margin mix benefits.
The mixed tailwinds, combined with productivity and price net of cost benefits due to promotion timing favorability drove our gross margin up 390 basis points year-over-year to a new all-time quarterly high of 32.3%. Adjusted EBITDA rose 19% year-over-year and adjusted EPS rose 28% year-over-year to EUR 0.55 as a result. This solid margin performance gives us the fuel we need to reinvest back into the business to keep the commercial flywheel that we first introduced to you last year's pinning.
The investments associated with the flywheel are beginning to bear fruit validated by our return to market share growth this quarter. The third quarter results are even more impressive when put in context of greater-than-expected temporary headwinds related to our ERP implementation that we faced in the quarter.
Our service levels suffered for a period of time and closer to reduce in-market support to dampen demand and limit out of stocks. I'm proud of our team's ability to overcome these obstacles and happy to report that our service levels are returning to near normal levels. We were able to nimbly adapt to the challenge and deliver strong bottom line results this quarter as we pull back promotions and change the volume price mix at the top line.
The impact, however, has caused us to lower our full revenue outlook. We will not cut down on the investments on our brands and business and are therefore modestly lowered our full year EBITDA and EPS outlook as a result. We will continue to fuel our growth for both the short and the long term. Our recovering to positive market share in the third quarter is a result of our commitment to invest behind our categories, brands, products and people.
Our volume sales and share growth have accelerated further so far in the fourth quarter. We are seeing improved momentum in market now and are committed to spending behind that momentum to ensure that it translates into more robust organic sales growth in the fourth quarter and into 2025. As we detailed at the recent conference, our porter remains growth advantage.
First, we are in a relatively healthy market. Unlike the U.S., European consumers pulled back meaningfully during the cost of [indiscernible] crisis. which weighed on industry volume and boost private label share. European consumer is now rebounding off that pullback. Volume for the FMCG industry is growing across all major European markets year-to-date, and private label gains have slowed as brands have accelerated.
This backdrop becomes even more favorable when you zoom into our frozen category. As we illustrate on Slide 4, Volume growth for the product category continues to outpace the overall food industry. While some category volume growth slowing the quarter against tougher prior year comparisons, we are beginning to see reacceleration in the fourth quarter. Category volume in value growth was up 2% and 2.6%, respectively, as retail in the most recent 4-week period. And our brands are driving much of this growth while private label share is now contracting across our aggregate market footprint.
As we restrain on Slide 5, our actions have returned our market share to growth in the third quarter. We show a value share of this chart and the story is the same through a volume length. Our marketing, merchandising and innovation efforts are driving these results and the improvement is even more impressive given that we got in market activity in the U.K. and Ireland this quarter to limit other stocks as a result of the ERP disruption.
We're achieving this success with concentrated marketing, merchandising and innovation efforts behind our growth platforms, which grew net sales by 11% in the third quarter and a must win battles, where sales rose 2% this quarter despite the ERP disruption in the U.K. and Ireland.
On Slide 6, you can see a handful of innovation that have just recently been launched across our Western European markets. The team continues to build on our successful must-win poultry battle in the U.K. with new chicken shop items while investing in our potato growth platform with the launch of new [indiscernible] And while potato growth platform in the U.K., they must win battle in France. And here you can see the seasonal items we are bringing to market under the Findus brand.
In Italy, we're building on our early poultry success with the launch of new chicken crunches in the third quarter while also expanding our range of premium fish products, which is a growth platform for us in this market and in Germany, where fish is a must win battle. We are investing behind our recently launched regionally inspired varieties such as [indiscernible] and Mexican [indiscernible] fish.
In Belgium, we're launching exciting vegetable rice meal products in a bowl and launching a [indiscernible] meal solutions in Porto. This 2 engine of innovation, their investment battles and growth platform is speeding up in our Southeastern European markets as well. As a reminder, we entered Southeastern Europe with the acquisition of Fortenova Group frozen food business in late 2021.
Like prior M&A, this has proven to be a great deal for us. Our full year '24 sales and adjusted EBITDA in Southeastern Europe are tracking high teens above our forecast at the time of the acquisition. Momentum are sustained with net sales up 8% year-to-date, purely in part by innovation. We highlight some of these new products on Slide 7. We command a leading share of the ice cream market in the region, and our focus earlier this year was on maintaining that strength into the peak summer season.
Our team has achieved just that. The King brand hit a record high share of the impulse ice cream category in Croatia, driven by innovation and a highly effective marketing campaign. And we're seeing great growth behind the brand in Serbia as well with a similar flavor. Innovation is driving this growth and getting recognized more broadly. And this year, international ice cream [indiscernible] Conference the King premium layers won first place in the best ice cream category, where the King obsession layers on second place for most innovative ice cream.
We're winning award and more importantly, winning more sales. And our differentiated innovation behind our [ Quatro ] brand is driving share in the multi-serve segment as well. We are successfully growing our business in Southeastern Europe with new premium offerings and gaining share from brands like Ben & Jerry, Hagendaaz and Magnum. And our investment is not isolated to ice cream. Premium fishing and prepared vegetables are 2 of our growth platforms in this market where we are lifting our product concepts and capabilities from other markets to launch here.
For context, the average household penetration for fish [indiscernible] is half of what it is in Germany, while being only 1/3 for [indiscernible] fish. The frozen fish segment in this market has historically been dependent on lower margin natural fish, and we are changing that with innovation. Over the past year, we have invested in a full 360-degree campaign centered around premium innovation, and it has yielded results.
Year-to-date, office sales in Croatia are plus 16% year-over-year and plus 30% in Serbia. In the fourth quarter, we will leverage our Southeast Eastern European mode, our direct store delivery network and over 120,000 owned to that retail to replicate the success in vegetables. Prepared and vegetables account for more than 1/4 of the frozen vegetable market in Western Europe, but are virtually nonexistent in Southeastern Europe.
Our research tells us that the demand is there, and we intend to unlock it with marketing innovation, including the new products you see on the slide. These products began to hit store shares in October. This could become more than a EUR 30 million new segment in the category if it involved to look like Western Europe over time. We have a lot of actions underway to keep our momentum in Southeast, Eastern Europe growing.
These are just some of the examples that have me excited about our future. We are in a great category with leading brands that are aligned with secular convenience, nutrition value at the trends. We are investing to maximize our growth potential, and I'm pleased to see the commercial flywheel delivering market share growth. Our marketing and merchandising is improving and our innovation framework is only just beginning to deliver multiyear pipeline of products to market.
I'm pleased with the progress we're making and confident in our growth trajectory. With that, let me turn it to our CFO, Ruben Baldew to walk through our got quarterly results and outlook in more detail.
Thank you, Stephan, and good morning, everyone. I'm approaching my 5-month anniversary with the company and can obviously say that I'm increasingly confident that I made the right decision to join Nomad. We are in a great category with fantastic nutritional credentials and a great team of top-tier tenants. Our brands are strong and our plans to drive growth with compelling innovation, impactful marketing and the leveraging of our platform are robust. We are well positioned to continue delivering strong results in a sustainable manner.
Before I go too deep into the results, let me address the transitory headwind we faced this quarter. As we discussed last quarter, we began to upgrade our ERP system to S/4HANA at our U.K. and Ireland business, including at 4 factories in August. As with all major ERP transformation, we had a planned shutdown of operations. However, we faced some challenges with the system changeover and relating ramping up again of our production capability.
To minimize out stocks, we began to curtail in market promotional activity. I'm happy to say that we have successfully been working through these programs. Our service levels are getting back to near normal levels, and we see progress on various processes week after week. So we believe we have worked through this. Let's also be absolutely clear that we are capturing the learnings of this to prevent the repetition in the future.
First of all, albeit painful, we have gone live on our EPA system in our biggest business, including 4 factories. Future wages will be smaller. Secondly, the learnings we are seeing on the system and processes will be of great value for the implementation of the rest of the plan, allowing us to improve of various processes and system application.
We know the system much better now, and this will help us enormously. Lastly, we will replan go-live of ways of other countries and factories in a way that we believe will help us to ensure that the transition goes more smoothly in the future. In short, we have suffered some growing pains with the first wave of upgrade implementation, but we have worked through them and taken steps to ensure we learn from them.
Turning to results now. As you can see on Slide 8 and 9, for the third quarter, reported net revenues increased by 0.8% to EUR 77 million. Organic growth was 0.3%, which marked our ninth consecutive quarter of organic growth despite an estimated 2.5% headwind related to our ERP implementation. The underlying growth, therefore, of nearly 3% shows that our strategy in the market is successful and working.
Volume growth remained positive for the second consecutive quarter, rising plus 0.7% and while price mix was minus 0.4% to volume growth. The ERP transition caused us to rebalance promotions, resulting in less of a price mix headwind than we had initially expected. The lower promotional support combined with favorable mix and ongoing net productivity to drive gross margin plus 390 basis points year-on-year to a new quarterly record high of 32.3%.
Roughly 200 basis points of our gross margin expansion this quarter came from more favorable price net of cost than we had expected as we curtailed promotional support to mitigate ERP disruption. The remainder was driven by a combination of mix benefit as we win our most win battles and also from our supply chain productivity efforts. This quarter's robust gross margin drove a 15% increase in gross profit which was amplified by a more modest 7% year-on-year increase in SG&A to drive a 90% increase in adjusted EBITDA.
A & B was roughly flat year-on-year as some of our planned investment was referred to the fourth quarter, while interest expenses rose less than expected, due in part to bonus accrual adjustment given weaker-than-expected revenue growth and various other cost control efforts. Adjusted net income rose 22% year-on-year, while adjusted EPS rose 28% to EUR 0.55 as our diluted share count from 5% year-on-year.
Turning to Slide 10. Our strong profit performance continues to translate into a healthy cash flow that we have increasingly returned to shareholders in the form of our recently established dividend. Year-to-date, adjusted free cash flow was EUR 105 million, which was down year-on-year mainly due to higher working capital. Working capital seasonally rose as we acquired what proved to be strong harvest inventory and began to rebuild production inventory late in the quarter ahead of fourth quarter sales.
We also saw a drag on our receivables due to shipment timing. [indiscernible] sales in certain markets were negatively impacted by ERP, and we began to catch up later in September which caused some timing distortion in receivables. Both of these working capital dynamics are expected to reverse in the fourth quarter.
Turning to our guidance for '24 on Slide 11. We are pleased with the progress the team has made, improving in-market results and restoring our market share to grow. We, however, do not expect to recover the ERP-related sales which we lost in the third quarter which, combined with some disruption that carried over into the fourth quarter and slightly more conservative growth assumption has caused us to lower our full year organic sales forecast to plus 1% to plus 2% from the 3% to 4% previously anticipate.
And as Stefan mentioned, we remain committed to investing behind our business and have not pulled back on investments resulting in a modest reduction in our profit outlook. We believe that the decision to maintain our investment level will prove to be the right 1 over time. We now expect full year adjusted EBITDA growth to be within a 3% to 5% growth range and adjusted EPS of EUR 1.72 to EUR 1.77, implying growth of 7% to 10%.
Based on U.S. dollar euro exchange rate as of November 7, this translates into '24 adjusted EPS of $1.86 to $1.91. In regards to the fourth quarter, the guidance implies a meaningful sequential acceleration in sales growth, but also a sequential step down in profit margin. As a reminder, our fourth quarter has a seasonally lower gross margin than a full year average given a smaller contribution from our high-margin Southeastern European business.
The favorable gross margin benefits of promotional timing are also expected to reverse in the fourth quarter, and we expect the combination of sequentially higher A&P and indirects due to some effects of bonus accruals and phasing opportunities to translate into a low single-digit year-on-year increase in total SG&A expense for the quarter.
Still, at the midpoint, our guidance implies EBITDA and EPS growth of roughly 10% and 19%, respectively, in the fourth quarter, which I'm sure you agree are healthy growth rates. Turning to cash flow. We are on track to deliver 90% to 95% adjusted free cash flow conversion for the full year and remain committed to returning capital to shareholders.
Year-to-date, we have returned EUR 110 million to investors as we have now returned EUR 67 million year-to-date through our newly established dividend and EUR 43 million through our share repurchase program. We declared our fourth quarterly cash dividend of EUR 0.15 per share 2 weeks ago, highlighting our strong consistent cash flow and our commitment to consistently deploy cash and value-creating way for our shareholders.
Overall, I'm pleased with the progress we are making. Our teams did a fantastic job overcoming hurdles this quarter, and I want to personally thank them for their hard work and accomplishments. We exited the quarter on more firm footing and are off to a strong start to the fourth quarter. And with that, I will now turn the call back to the operator to open the line for questions.
[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Andrew Lazar with Barclays.
Great. Good morning, everybody. Can you hear me, Stefan?
Yes, we can hear you a lot in clear, Andrew.
Excellent. I guess in the past few weeks, bunch of packaged food companies, while not providing detailed guidance yet for '25. I have sort of said they already know enough to know that next year is still going to be a sort of below algorithm year for a lot of them. Nomad, excluding the ERP impact in 3Q and looking at your implied organic sales guidance for 4Q, your organic growth would already be within your 3% to 4% long-term algorithm in the back half of this year.
So I guess my question is, does that give you sort of the visibility that this sort of trajectory can continue into next year, even though I know you're not likely prepared to give sort of formal '25 guidance yet?
Well, let me start with your final words that stay away from giving any guidance. But the fact is frozen food in Europe is a great category. It has delivered a nice sales growth year after year around -- you take the last 10 years, obviously, with pluses and minuses, it's been around 3%.
Obviously, when inflation is higher, it's a bit higher with lower volume and vice versa. So we're getting out of this high inflation. So we're more in the sub inflation. So probably the market is slightly below this 3%. But on top of that, to your point, on top of that, we have all our programs. They're delivering well.
To your point, I think there was this one-off. But you see what we're doing for the last 4 months, we started to regain market share and in terms of value and in terms of volume in P8, which is equivalent of mid-July and mid-August. We started in that [indiscernible] we increased this in P9 around 30 basis points, P10, 40 basis points and we just received was around 95% of our P11 to smaller market missing, and we have something which is equivalent.
And by the way, it's resting to see Andrew that even including U.K., despite our issues. So that's -- obviously, it's a testament to our program with our [indiscernible] battles with our growth platforms and obviously, now, we can see that innovation after a lower level last year, which is normal, by the way, doing that this time. I think we're really starting to come back.
We're doing well, lift and launch in many countries, ports were doing well. So yes, we're very pleased with what we see and or we can see the next year. But to your point, and then I'm still in your final words as take play, obviously, of any guidance for 2025.
Yes, understand that. And then one last one. You did mention and Ruben mentioned it, in addition to just the ERP issue, which I know you're largely through -- you did talk in the release about a little bit more of a more conservative growth assumption for the rest of the year. So that's kind of separate from anything ERP related. And I'm just curious what's sort of underpinning that.
Well, the thing is when you break it down and you take P4, yes, it's a range between 3% and 7%, but I think everybody will agree that it's still very much -- it's a very he these are very healthy numbers. So that's -- I think that's the way I would start. We are very encouraged with what we see for the first 6 weeks, as I said, because it's not only market share gain, but it's also the sellouts are doing well.
In PA in P9, P10 and P11. So that's good. We still have a bit of spillover of ERP and then the thing is -- and I think it happens all the time, and we prefer to be a bit cautious because every time we're getting out of the crisis, the markets are more volatile. So we prefer to get to be that way and to be comfortable with the numbers we're providing and a broader range, still a very healthy range, by the way.
The next question comes from Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank.
Great. I guess maybe building on that a little bit, just as you described the ERP experience this past quarter, it does things -- sound like things are getting back on track with learnings being applied to future waves, which is all great. But I'm curious, just talk about them as a transitory step back.
But when you step back and look at it, is it truly transitory? Or do you think there's been some more lasting impacts such that it's going to take you a little bit longer to get on the acceleration plan and program that you had laid out for yourselves back in July and August. I'm trying to figure out how much of this is sort of really just a one-and-done thing or it really has altered the go-forward planning? And perhaps related to that, if you could give us an update on what the overall time line to roll out S/4HANA is enterprise-wide from here that would be great.
Yes. So the short answer is no. This has not altered to our plans. So also just to take a step back to clarify what happened and where we are now to what Stephane said and what myself said, is we are getting out of this. Stefan just shared, the P11 shares, we've gained market shares in U.K. in P11. That wouldn't be happening if we still would have major issues.
So we got the week, as I said, we're improving our service levels are getting kickback to the near-normal levels we had before. So we're getting out of this. I think that's one point. Then to your question into 2025, there are 2, 3 elements there. The first element is we have go-live, like I said, on a business you see in our interim statement we disclosed the U.K. business a size, but I can say it's roughly 1/3 of our business, size of EUR 1 billion with 4 factories out of which are a couple of big factories. Future wages will be smaller. So just in terms of the size and the risk profile that will be a different size, quite a different size. That's the first one.
Second point, this was the first one. And we all go lives, and I think you've also seen other companies with ERP, this is where you really learn how the ERP works. And we really have learned now how the system works. And we will apply albeit painful, but we will apply these lessons for future waves. So that's the same.
The third point is that we will also plan and that links to your question, the future waits in such a way that we can prepare do testing, do design properly, so that also loss risk. Now that means that there will be a longer transition. So this ERP wage won't end in 2025. I think it's not here in this call to say and give an exact date, but we will do this properly and make sure there's no disruption. I think the other point you raised, will this alter plans?
No. You've heard Stefan talked about the performance in the market. things we've already done, and we have continued to do so like RGM plans. We will continue to drive those into '25 into '26 our CRAM tooling, allowing us to have better execution at the software. We will just continue to do that. Cost competitiveness, look at elements at factories, we will just continue to do that. So we don't see any impact of any plans.
Okay. That's very helpful. And maybe a little bit of a build on that. So the 200 basis points of price net of cost favorability that you saw this quarter, when we think about fourth quarter, is that -- do we just now shift back to normal? Or do you anticipate like some makeup where you're going to invest a bit more in that -- in the pricing line promotion line to kind of make up for some of the 3Q fall off?
Yes. That's a good question. So -- just if you compare first quarter 3, so you look at margin sequentially, you have to -- and probably know we just for the avoidance of doubt, that over the last 3 years, there's roughly 200 basis points, 200 basis points decrease quarter 4, first quarter 3, which has to do with mix because there's a lower element of our ice cream business, which is higher gross margin.
So it is around 200 basis points drop on average, which you will see in the last 3 years. That's the first one. The other point is exactly what you said. We had 200 basis points net of cost benefit out of that 100 basis points was off a different base promo element, and we don't expect that to continue into quarter 4. So you're right on that point..
The next question is from the line of Rob Dickerson with Jefferies.
Great. Stefan, I just want to go back to the chart you guys have been kind of showing at least the past couple of quarters, just around frozen kind of continues to outpace total food work in Europe. And then I think you made a comment earlier where you said all European markets are actually growing.
So -- and then the commentary just kind of around it seems like the consumer is staying over better. So kind of while I understand there's kind of a shift in Q3 to Q4, ERP seems to be clearly better in Q4 and you're not guiding, right, for next year. Like when you step back to kind of more on that macro basis where the consumer is, like, do you feel like there should be some kind of like clear momentum and just consumption rates kind of as we get through, I mean, pay the next 6 weeks, right, until we hit '25 such that, yes, there should be some momentum just on the base x ERP kind of ex ERP expansion markets, new products, just kind of getting back to a normal level of consumption growth given all the pricing and the volume pressure over the past couple of years.
Well, to your point, let me stand back because that's exactly your question, Rob. When you take in the category, the frozen food category in Europe, it's -- and we are the category. We mostly very healthy protein, chicken fish and then veg, 2/3 of our business is this, which is quite different from what you see in the U.S. So that's the first piece. So we definitely represent between frozen food and what we are, we're really good food.
And I think this with good food together with, I mean, affordability, together with healthy and tasty it's really becoming a competitive advantage. And I think we mentioned that the frozen food has been doing well over the last 10 years, have been outperforming food. And I think we keep it that way. when you see the fundamentals.
Then again, back to comparison with the U.S. While U.S. says, we have a long way to go in Europe when you compare the -- let's say, the per capita consumption, which is pretty high in the U.S., U.K. is midway that you have all the other countries, which are probably something like 50% lower than what you have in the U.S.
And definitely, we've seen this. It's definitely a category that is expandable. People are planning less frozen food, landing more other foods. So the combination of all these things, yes, we love frozen food. I think we love the fact that we are focused behind this category. And obviously, we think we, as a leader, we definitely we want to lead the category. Then on top of that, you obviously have all our programs in terms of marinates in terms of growth platforms, including chicken, which is a big thing for us, then something that we're really lifting up now, which is innovation.
For all these reasons, we are the category leader in the grid category. Yes, we are very positive about this category in the future.
Okay. Okay. Good enough. And then I guess just coming back to the ERP conversation for a second. It sounds like maybe there were some out of stocks, right? There's some dislocation demand relative to kind of your shipment ability just pretty simplistically we think about Q4, maybe even early part of next year.
Like is there a need for any kind of inventory build, I guess, especially it sounds like kind of more focused on the U.K. or maybe more in chicken? That's all.
No, I don't think it is an inventory build. What you've seen and what we've seen in quarter 3 was the impact on the supply. And as a [indiscernible] that's also the reason why we lowered promotion -- we're getting out of that week after week, we have positive shares, but the mix is not fully yet where we wanted to be.
We see that in the year-to-date with quite some margin mix benefit. Maybe quarter 4 will be a bit different because we're getting out of it but we expect that into the next year to be normalized.
[Operator Instructions] The next question is from John Baumgartner with Mizuho.
Stefan, I wanted to come back to the retail sales. You're still on a positive trajectory. The market share is growing, as you noted. And I'm curious, as you now lap the increase in reinvestment that you began Q3, Q4 last year, how does the execution change? Is the plan that brought you to this point in the recovery? Are those the same initiatives poised to continue?
Are there changes you have to make in terms of programming, size or type of investment we should expect going forward for this next phase of recovery. How do you think about the marketing investments from here?
Well, I think we said that we're going to grow [ A&P ] we started in Q4 last year, and we keep doing it. And we have all the intent, obviously, to make sure that we're going to keep it that way. End of the year, but also obviously, more importantly, So, so far, year-to-date, A&P is up something like 17%, which is significant.
And what we want to do is obviously to keep this pipeline of for next year. The rest is very much in line with flywheel. A great example is Italy in fish -- we've been through the whole flywheel. We knew that our fish fingers were probably a bit too high. So we've reduced pro and price. That's one thing. We also came with a big increase in terms of E&P with renovation with a promo with activation at the store level, and we see the numbers.
So it's really responding extremely well. So that's -- so that's -- it's fact-based, and then it's basically the same model that we repeat and repeat and repeat the game based on this flywheel and the most in battle is the growth platform, which are doing excluding with a have seen.
Is there anything Stefan terms of the lift on promotion? I know you're doing different things now putting the shelving into the fresh produce part of the store. Thinking back to 2016, when you had the last big increase in marketing in the must-win battles, has anything changed in terms of lift on promotion or lift on investment?
Anything stand out that positively surprised you over the past year. Just curious how you think about that in terms of the lift on a relative basis.
Well, I think what we've done is a little value that year-after-year. We have completed the program. For example, revenue growth management was very much limited to promo activation when we started back in 2016, John, I think no, it's the full steroid between, obviously, price promo, price bonds, obviously, trade margin. And it's again, I think it's not that you will see something significant or ever we can see that the eyes are in a better shape than before. That's absolutely clear.
But I think it's more fundamentally is this flywheel covering all the elements that we're tackling. And they might be different, by the way, category by category, even it's invest battle by must-win battle. The requirements are different. So that's -- I think that's the strength of our model, by the way. And I think the clusters, the countries or the regions are really applying this quite rigorously.
The next question is from the line of John Tanwanteng with CJS Securities.
I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the nature of the ERP headwind. And if you -- did you incur significant costs to fix it, are there any elements of your contracts or SLA is there anything that covers offsets any cost that might be there?
No, there were no material additional cost versus what we have planned. I think what we've seen is that the ramping up took longer than planned. You go live with a new system. I don't want to go in all details, but you learn the system and can give one example. For example, how the system interact with third parties which suppliers and what that means in terms of onboarding suppliers and third party, and that took a bit longer that took longer than expected in the ramping up again. That is an example. So I'd come back to the point. It's only when you really turn on the new engine in the car that you learn other engine works. And we prepared quite a lot the debts where we've got a couple of those learnings.
And let me also be clear, we wouldn't have been gaining market share in P11 if we're now not overcoming this. So back to your point, there were a couple of learnings like how do you onboard with third parties, but nothing out of the ordinary and also in terms of cost that is still aligned with what was planned.
Okay. Great. And then I was wondering if you could preview a little bit just your thoughts on pricing, both your negotiations with your retail customers and from an input pricing perspective heading into next year especially as we're seeing a little bit more currency movement in the dollar and how that impacts back.
Well, I can start and please, Ruben. Yes. So at this stage, we -- traditionally, we always have 1 or 2 disruption and there with retailers. We're not in that position at this stage, which is a good thing. The second piece is as obviously, in a subdued inflation environment, you always have negotiations. So that would almost trials not to expect the negotiation with the retailers. But definitely, when inflation is lower, I mean these conversations are obviously a bit different. And I think on top of that, when we as retail as suppliers, we're coming with more innovation with more NPE.
I think that the conversation is changing because it's not limited. You remember, back in '22 and '23, it was all about price, price and price. And people were not interested in innovation and E&P was a bit lower. I think we're changing this, and that makes the whole thing much more obviously manageable with that way.
Yes. And building on that, so the dollar euro, which mainly has an impact on fish is an impact with all the European suppliers and customers also buying private label will know about -- but then for us, concretely, we have a hedging policy. And I can share here we are sufficiently hedged. So on the short term, we don't expect an impact. And actually, we'll look at it from an opportunity perspective because dollar is increasing. So we will have a look at what private label is doing our competitor is doing and take a step by step. But your question concretely on will it hit our bottom line in the short term? The answer is no since we're hedged.
The next question is from Peter Saleh with BTIG.
Great. I was hoping maybe you could just comment. I don't know if I missed this on the just the health of the consumer and some of your key markets. I know that consumer has been under some pressure over the past several years. I think last quarter, you mentioned you're starting to see some of that ease and starting to see some modest mix shift towards some more premium products -- can you just give us an update there?
Are you still seeing some mix shift towards more premium products? What's the health of the consumer looking like in some of those key markets, that would be helpful.
[indiscernible] the thing is when you think about this inflation in a good crisis, I think it probably started earlier in Europe. And then we had an impact definitely in and then what we can see is we're getting out probably faster. And we see this totally in terms of a global market, which is doing better. So you've seen the numbers, let's say, setout is in the region of 4% to 5% at this stage, which is fine with low inflation.
And it's also within the market, we also see private labor losing market share, which is, for us, a good news. And again, it's exactly in line with what I said, which is we're coming with more innovation. We're coming with more NPE. Sometimes, we're triaging a bit the price the way we did in Italy, but we did it in the full we take into account the full fly wheel with all the other elements, and that's working. So that's the reason.
And on top of that, as I said, frozen food in Europe with a lot of edge a lot of party, a lot of fish that we have the protein. It's a very good combination.
Great. And then I think you mentioned A&P investments up about 17% for this year. Any thoughts on I mean just the rate of investment next year. I'm not sure if you're ready to provide that.
Well, we're not going to provide a number, but definitely, E&P is definitely something that I think it's a bread and butter of -- let's say, of a brand leader. I think if we don't come up with the right level of innovation, the right level of A&P in the right slide, we, quite frankly, the market is there to remind us that we can't be complacent and so in this part of the component, and then we will keep that way and we are the private -- the brand leader, and we know that it's an important component for not only for us, by the way, but also for the category.
Thank you. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Stefan Descheemaeker for any closing remarks.
Thank you, operator. So as we committed to you at the start of the year, our growth through flywheel is beginning to spin faster as evidenced by our return to positive volume growth this year. Our market share has favorably inflected in the third quarter and we are seeing acceleration retail and net sales growth so far in the fourth quarter.
We believe we are on track to finish 2024 with strong sales growth and are excited by the momentum we are building into 2025. So thank you for your time. And I will now turn it back to you, operator, for obviously finalizing the conversation.
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