Motorola Solutions Inc

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Earnings Call Analysis

Motorola Solutions Projects Strong Q4 and Raises Annual Guidance

Motorola Solutions had a notable third quarter, with an 8% revenue increase driven by a 12% rise in software and services and a 5% uptick in products and systems integration. The firm achieved record Q3 operating earnings, with over $700 million in operating cash flow and operating margins expanding for a straight fifth quarter. Customer investments in security resulted in a record orders quarter, pushing year-to-date orders up by 11% and backlog to a new high of $14.3 billion, up 6%. Reflecting Q3 successes and ongoing business momentum, Motorola Solutions raised its full-year guidance for sales and EPS for the third time this year. Q4 sales are expected to grow about 4%, with non-GAAP EPS between $3.60 and $3.65, leading to a full-year revenue projection of $9.93 to $9.945 billion and non-GAAP EPS of $11.65 to $11.70.

Motorola Solutions' Q3 2023 Exceeds Expectations with Solid Growth and Expanded Margins

In the arena of communication equipment, Motorola Solutions marks another robust performance in the third quarter of 2023, with results surpassing their own forecasts on the backdrop of steadfast demand and a favorable supply chain landscape. The company celebrates an 8% surge in revenue, with the software and services sector shining through a 12% uptick and products and systems integration experiencing a 5% ascent. This continuous growth spurt has not only generated record operating earnings for both business divisions but also pumped the operating cash flow past the $700 million threshold.

Motorola Solutions Witnesses Escalating Orders and Record Backlog

Motorola Solutions has cultivated an enviable position with a burgeoning order book in Q3, hitting an all-time high which is 11% heftier than the previous year. This impressive momentum is underpinned by prolific software and services sector, unprecedented demand from U.S. Federal sectors, and the widespread adoption of their APX NEXT range by state and local agencies in the U.S. Consequently, the backlog too soars to a record $14.3 billion, marking a 6% yearly increase, indicative of the solid undercurrents of customer reliance on their safety and security solutions.

Operational Efficiency and Cash Flow Propel Financial Strength

Vividly demonstrating operational prowess, Motorola Solutions showcases a handsome GAAP operating profit of $639 million, equivalent to 25% of sales – a substantial leap from 15.7% last year. This profitability enhancement is mirrored in a boost in non-GAAP operating margins to 29%, propped up by both an uptick in sales and diminishing material costs. Simultaneously, the period registers a thriving operating cash flow, culminating in $714 million – a jump of $326 million compared to the same period last year, placing the company firmly on the path to hit the annual outlook of a $1.9 billion operating cash flow.

Motorola Solutions' Segment Growth: Diversified and Dynamic

Zooming in on the segments, the Products and Systems Integration (SI) sector reports a 5% rise in sales, buttressed by growth ranging from land mobile radios (LMR) to video technologies. Software and Services steal the limelight with a 12% increase in returns, notwithstanding a temporary setback due to the Airwave revenue deferral. This spike is driven by a solid 31% expansion in Command Center software and a 15% climb in the Video sector. These gains are spread across the board, with both North America and International regions performing robustly, at 6% and 13% growth rates respectively.

Looking Ahead: Motorola Solutions Raises the Bar for Q4 and Annual Guidance

Eyes set firmly on the horizon, Motorola Solutions adjusts the sails upward with an upgraded outlook for Q4 and the entirety of 2023. The company anticipates Q4 sales to burgeon by roughly 4%, translating to a non-GAAP EPS ranging between $3.60 and $3.65. As for the annual forecast, they enhance the expected revenue bracket to between $9.93 billion and $9.945 billion – a refinement from the previous $9.875 billion to $9.9 billion range. Furthermore, the projected non-GAAP EPS also sees an uptick, now estimated to land between $11.65 and $11.70 compared to the earlier anticipation of $11.40 to $11.48.

Earnings Call Transcript 2023-Q3

[Operator]

Good afternoon, and thank you for holding. Welcome to the Motorola Solutions Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. The presentation materials and additional financial tables are posted on the Motorola Solutions Investor Relations website. In addition, a webcast replay of the call will be available on our website within 3 hours after the conclusion of this call. The website address is www.motorolasolutions.com/investor. [Operator Instructions]. I'd now like to introduce Mr. Tim Yocum, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. Yocum, you may begin your conference.

[Tim Yocum, executive]

Good afternoon. Welcome to our 2023 third quarter earnings call. With me today are Greg Brown, Chairman and CEO; Jason Winkler, Executive Vice President and CFO; Jack Molloy, Executive Vice President and COO; and Mahesh Saptharishi, Executive Vice President and CTO. Greg and Jason will review our results along with commentary, and Jack and Mahesh will join for Q&A.

We posted an earnings presentation and news release at motorolasolutions.com/investor. These materials include GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations for your reference. And during the call, we reference non-GAAP financial results, including those in our outlook unless otherwise noted. A number of forward-looking statements will be made during this presentation and during the Q&A portion of the call. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Information about the factors that could cause such differences can be found in today's earnings news release, and the comments made during this conference call in the Risk Factors section of our 2022 Annual report on Form 10-K or any quarterly report on Form 10-Q and in our other reports and filings with the SEC. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements. And with that, I'll turn it over to Greg.

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Thanks, Tim. Good afternoon, and thanks, everybody, for joining us today. First, Q3 was another strong quarter with revenue and earnings per share exceeding our guidance, driven by continued strong demand and an improving supply chain environment. Revenue was up 8% in the quarter, highlighted by 12% growth in software and services and 5% growth in Products and Systems Integration.

We also expanded operating margins for the fifth consecutive quarter, which resulted in record Q3 operating earnings in both segments and over $700 million of operating cash flow. Second, investments in safety and security continue to be a priority for our customers, and we had another record orders quarter in Q3. Year-to-date orders were up 11%, driven by strong software and services, record U.S. federal demand and continued adoption of our APX NEXT device by U.S. state and local customers.

Additionally, we ended Q3 with record backlog of $14.3 billion, up 6% versus the prior year. And finally, based on our Q3 results and continued momentum in the business, we are again raising our full year guidance for both sales and EPS for the third time this year. I'll now turn the call over to Jason.

[Jason Winkler, executive]

Thank you, Greg. Revenue for the quarter grew 8% and was above our guidance with growth in both segments, both regions and all 3 technologies. APX tailwinds during the quarter were $13 million, while acquisitions added $19 million. GAAP operating earnings were $639 million or 25% of sales, up from 15.7% in the year ago quarter, which had the impact of the $147 million fixed asset impairment charge related to our exit from the ESN contract in the U.K.

Non-GAAP operating earnings were $741 million up 10% from the year ago quarter and non-GAAP operating margin was 29%, up 50 basis points, driven by higher sales, lower material costs and improved operating leverage, partially offset by a higher mix of international product shipments and the revenue deferral related to Airwave. GAAP earnings per share was $2.70 up from $1.63 in the year ago quarter, which had the impact of the ESN asset impairment. Non-GAAP EPS was $3.19, up 6% from $3 per share last year. The growth in EPS was driven by higher sales and margins, partially offset by the Airwave deferral and a higher effective tax rate in the current year.

OpEx in Q3 was $551 million, up $29 million versus last year, primarily due to acquisitions and higher employee incentives in the current year.

Turning to cash flow. Q3 operating cash flow was $714 million, up $326 million versus last year, and free cash flow was $649 million, up $331 million. Increase in year-over-year cash flow was primarily driven by higher earnings and improved working capital. And with our Q3 year-to-date operating cash flow of $799 million, up significantly from last year, we are solidly on track to deliver on our $1.9 billion of operating cash flow outlook for this year.

Capital allocation for Q3 included $147 million in cash dividends, $322 million in share repurchases and $65 million of CapEx.

Moving to Segments. In the Products and SI segment, sales were up 5% versus last year, driven by growth in both LMR and Video. Currency tailwinds were $4 million and revenue from acquisitions in the quarter was $1 million. Operating earnings for the segment were $420 million or 26.1% of sales, up from 24.5% in the prior year, driven by higher sales, lower direct material costs and improved operating leverage, partially offset by mix. Some notable Q3 wins and achievements in the Products segment include a $75 million P25 device order for a U.S. Federal customer, a $55 million P25 system order for a Southeast Asia customer, a $42 million P25 device order for the Texas Department of Public Safety, a $30 million P25 device order for a U.S. federal customer, a $20 million P25 device order for Indiana State Police and a $3 million fixed video expansion order for a U.S. federal customer.

In Software and Services, revenue was up 12%, inclusive of the Airwave deferral with 31% growth in Command Center and 15% growth in Video. Revenue from acquisitions was $18 million in the quarter, and FX tailwinds were $9 million. Operating earnings in the segment were $321 million, up 7% versus last year and operating margins were 34%, down from 35.7% last year. Excluding the Airwave deferral, operating margins for the segment were up, driven by higher sales and improved operating leverage. Some notable Q3 highlights in this segment include a $23 million LMR service agreement for a large European customer, a $23 million service agreement for East Bay regional communication systems in California, a $20 million LMR service agreement for the Los Angeles Police Department, a $12 million command center order for [ Tarrant ] County 911 District in Texas and an $8 million body-worn camera order for the Metro Nashville Police.

Looking at our regional results. North America Q3 revenue was $1.8 billion, up 6% on growth in all 3 technologies. International Q3 revenue was $773 million, up 13% versus last year driven by growth in LMR and Video.

Moving to backlog. Ending backlog was a Q3 record of $14.3 billion, up 6% or $764 million versus last year, inclusive of $321 million of favorable currency rates driven by strong demand in North America. Sequentially, backlog was down $4 million, inclusive of $125 million of unfavorable FX, driven by the revenue recognition of Airwave, partially offset by strong demand in North America.

In Products and SI, ending backlog was up $62 million or 1% versus last year, driven primarily by strong demand in North America. And sequentially, backlog was up $80 million, also driven by strong demand in North America.

In Software and Services, backlog increased $702 million compared to last year, inclusive of $294 million of favorable FX driven by strong demand for multiyear software and services contracts in North America, partially offset by the revenue recognition for Airwave. Sequentially, backlog was down $84 million, driven by unfavorable FX of $96 million, partially offset by growth in multiyear Software and Services contracts in North America.

Turning next to our outlook. We expect Q4 sales growth of approximately 4%, with non-GAAP EPS between $3.60 and $3.65 per share. This assumes a weighted average share count of approximately 171 million shares and an effective tax rate of approximately 24%. For the full year, we are again increasing both our revenue and earnings guidance. We now expect revenue in the range of $9.93 billion to $9.945 billion, up from our prior range of $9.875 billion to $9.9 billion, and we expect non-GAAP earnings per share between $11.65 and $11.70, up from our prior guide of $11.40 to $11.48 per share. This full year outlook assumes $40 million of FX headwinds, up $25 million from our prior guidance. A weighted average diluted share count of approximately 172 million shares and an effective tax rate of approximately 23%.

Before I turn the call back to Greg, I'd like to highlight 2 points. In addition to the strength of our LMR and Video business, our Command Center portfolio performed well during the quarter. In Q3, we achieved strong growth, complemented by a robust contribution from Rave, an acquisition, which continues to exceed our expectations. Secondly, our supply chain execution navigating extended lead times for some semiconductors and reducing broker purchases continues to drive year-over-year cost savings. We now expect the impact of lower broker purchases to be a $70 million tailwind for this year, up from our prior estimate of $60 million. As a result, we now expect full year operating margin expansion of approximately 200 basis points, up from our prior guidance of 175 basis points. I'll now turn the call back to Greg.

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Thanks, Jason. First, I'm really pleased with our Q3 results, which highlight the durability and criticality of our business and the strength of our portfolio. Revenue was up 8%, and that's inclusive of the revenue deferral related to Airwave that we've talked to you about already. We also achieved record operating earnings in both segments, record Q3 operating cash flow of over $700 million and a Q3 record backlog that is 6% higher than last year, which positions us well as we head into next year. .

Second, the resilient nature of our business and strong cash flow allows us to continue to be flexible as we deploy capital to drive shareholder value. The strength of our cash flow comes from strong demand from product refresh, consistent margin expansion and improving cash conversion. Through October, we've repurchased just under $800 million of stock, highlighting our conviction in the long-term value of MSI. We also ended the quarter with net debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 1.7, which provides us with a healthy balance sheet and additional firepower to continue to invest both organically and consider inorganic investments as well.

And finally, as we look to close out another record year, I think we're exceptionally well positioned for continued growth. Demand for our solutions remains robust. We're continuing to add value to our customers. Our end markets remain resilient, and our teams continue to execute at a high level. I'll now turn the call over to Tim and welcome your questions accordingly.

[Tim Yocum, executive]

Thank you, Greg. Before we begin taking questions, I'd like to remind callers to limit themselves to 1 question and 1 follow-up to accommodate as many participants as possible. Operator, would you please remind our callers on the line how to ask a question? .

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Tim Long from Barclays.

[Timothy Long, analyst]

Yes, the 2, if I could. First, maybe on the Command Center and Software side, pretty strong, obviously, with Rave, a part of that. Could you maybe Greg talk a little bit about what's driving that addition of Rave seems to be positive. Is it adding to ability to cross-sell some of the different platforms or -- just a little bit more color on what's driving that and how Rave ties into that?

And then the second one, on the backlog still being record, it's pretty impressive. Most companies are seeing backlog coming down. So a little color there and maybe how that makes you feel about next year as far as growth? Do you think you can kind of sustain the type of growth rates you're seeing this year?

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Just on Rave and then maybe Mahesh can jump in. I would tell you, Tim, I love the acquisition. I think it was well done by the internal team here that founded, did the diligence both technical strategic as well as financial. I love Todd Pyott and his entire team that's come over to the organization. And the performance of Rave since joining Motorola has exceeded the business case and exceeded our expectations.

[Mahesh Saptharishi, executive]

Full year, I would say that we still expect our growth to be 20%. Look, our core platforms, that's NG-911, CAD, Records [indiscernible] are all doing well as well. As Jason read out in the script, St. Charles, Missouri, just refreshed their call handling solution and adopted our [indiscernible] routing. And you see us solution, Western Australia Police refreshed their CAD. There's also an ecosystem story here.

Rave is certainly performing well above our expectations. Arizona is now the 15th state to sign on to Rave Alert. It's a statewide mass notification system. And as we're doing that, we're also refreshing all the call handling instances across the PSAPs in Arizona. And our call handling system integrated with Rave as appropriate here as well. When you think about a city like Glendale. Glendale now brings in radio, brings in CAD 911, Rave, et cetera, now into a state-of-the-art real-time crime center, all integrated with a [indiscernible] -- and now you can think about orchestration when major incidents happened on the heels of things like active shooter incidents, et cetera, that benefit from the fact that the ecosystem allows you to now respond much faster.

[Jason Winkler, executive]

Tim, on backlog, we remain in a strong backlog position with an 8% revenue print in Q3 and backlog of $14 billion or more being up 6%. Our backlog is very strong. And I'd also point out that our backlog comes over 95% of it from government customers, who buy what they need, when they need it and count on us to deliver it. So we remain -- and Q3 orders inbound in Q3, inbound orders were also strong. So our backlog position is 1 of strength and Greg, I'll turn it to you for further comments.

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Yes. And Tim, as it relates to 2024, obviously, we'll wait until February to give specifics on any kind of detailed guidance. I would tell you, as we sit here today from a high level, we would estimate revenue, again, kind of back of the cocktail napkin to be about $10.5 billion at this point as we sit here today. By the way, that's inclusive of $250 million of incremental revenue headwinds, about $200 million of that out of the U.K. home office. We've talked to you about that before. The deferral of Airwave representing a little bit over $100 million, the balance of that being the formal exit of ESN for a total of $200 million related to the U.K. Home Office and anticipated FX headwinds of about $50 million. So high level, as I sit here today and take a look -- that's kind of how I would dimensionalize next year and filling in more detail when we get together in February.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of George Notter with Jefferies.

[George Notter, analyst]

Greg, you mentioned the U.K. I guess I was wondering what the latest and greatest is out of the U.K. I know you guys were going through the [indiscernible] tribunal process. I think the release today references that you still haven't heard back. I think you had expected to hear back after a number of weeks. And so wondering what's going on there. I'm wondering if the delay in being back with you is potentially good news. But what do you think is going to happen there? And what does it look like in terms of the appeal processes if that [indiscernible] tribunal process did not work out? .

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Yes. On the U.K., there's really no news to report, George. We had the hearing on August 2 and 3. I think we reiterated the strong case, we feel with a high level of conviction. And you've heard me use adjectives before. I'm very specific with how I would describe the situation. I think it's unprecedented. I think it's overreaching. It's entirely disproportionate, but we made the case. And as a result, we're waiting on that CAD, that competition appeals tribunal, you referenced that ruling. It's a fairly opaque regulatory process. So I couldn't speculate 1 way or the other on how to interpret that. We'll wait to get it.

I would anticipate getting it certainly between now and the end of the year. And as I've already said as well, if it, in turn, does not go our way, we will continue to exhaust all legal options to defend the position we have, provisioning and delivering outstanding and very reliable emergency communication services throughout the U.K.

[George Notter, analyst]

Got it. And then just as a quick follow-up. I assume the -- I understand that you guys have made the adjustment in terms of your financials and expectations. But I assume that contract is still going as is while we wait for the [indiscernible] to make a vision and then potentially other appeals processes. Is that correct? -- are you taking the price it now?

[Gregory Brown, executive]

That's right. We're still delivering the services. We're still investing in the network. We're still doing all the things that are expected of us to deliver superior reliable emergency communication services. We've referenced this to your point. We did start the deferral of revenue on Airwave on August 1. So we're deferring that revenue through the balance of this year. And that informs about $200 million of incremental revenue headwinds for next year. Airwave all in is about $110 million or $115 million of that with a balance of $85 million or so being ESN. So we are obligated to recognize that accounting consistent with the price control of final remedies order, and we're doing that. If there's a different outcome, then we would change that accordingly. .

[Operator]

The next question is from the line of Keith Housum with Northcoast Research.

[Keith Housum, analyst]

In terms of the supply chain issues that you guys have had in terms of the semiconductor chips, where do we stand with that? I mean, do we still have a significant backlog of chips that might carry over into next year? Or is that largely caught up?

[Jason Winkler, executive]

Keith, thanks for the question. The supply chain environment for our needs for chips, which I'll remind everyone is for generally 40 nanometers and above is improving, although it's not to levels of normality. For example, lead times for certain chips are now approaching 25, 26 weeks where they had been double that, but in a normal environment, they should be 15 or 16. So improvements, yes, and that's what's helping us drive the favorability of now $70 million in the P&L, but still some opportunity to improve further, and that's what's incorporated into our expectations for Q4 that we'll continue to use the tools that we've been using for a number of quarters now, looking for substitutes, working with our supplier partners and using the available supply that we can find at lower prices. .

[Gregory Brown, executive]

And we would [indiscernible] continued PPV benefit in '24 as well.

[Jason Winkler, executive]

Yes. Next year, as we told you on the last call, we're planning for about $60 million of '24 incremental PPP relief over '23. So we still have opportunity to capture there and expect that in the P&L. And again, that aligns to our expectations that things will continue to improve into '24.

[Keith Housum, analyst]

Great. Appreciate. If I can just follow up, M&A has been a key part of motor-oil strategy over the years. As you're looking forward, I mean, is there anticipation that you're going to keep with some of these small tuck-in acquisitions? Or is there an appetite for perhaps a larger more transformational acquisition as well?

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Yes. Well, we certainly are in great shape from a balance sheet standpoint and the firepower to do some things inorganically. It's ironic, Keith, because here was sitting in November, and we have not done an acquisition yet to date. That is certainly not for a lack of an active and a fulsome funnel, but we've been pretty diligent and quite frankly, some sellers have been reluctant at prices that we thought would be more reasonably valued. That's okay. Having said that, do I anticipate some continued M&A tuck-in activity, I do and the team, Raj, Mahesh, Jack, Jason, Michael [indiscernible] are actively working that funnel. I think we still probably emphasize in general, services and video security and access control as areas of probably higher priority than others that we would look to do inorganically. And if there's something larger for us to consider, we would evaluate that as well clear eyed, but balance both financially and strategically, and we'll see what comes.

[Operator]

The next question is from the line of Adam Tindle with Raymond James.

[Adam Tindle, analyst]

Greg, I wanted to start with backlog, again, record levels. Just I guess the heart of the question would be how long do you think this can continue? Do you think we're going to exit this year with record backlog again? Or when do you expect to see maybe some level of attenuation or normalization slowing in backlog based on what your business looks like right now?

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Yes, I certainly wouldn't speculate on backlog because I don't have a crystal ball. Having said that, Q3, we ended record backlog. Q3 was also a record quarter's quarter. So I love the funnel. I love our conversion. I love the record orders, and I think we're well positioned. By the way, when I look at the quality of the backlog in terms of aged or duration, that remains strong as well.

As Jason said, we still have to navigate supply chain on the semiconductor front. It's not normalized. Lead times remain elevated. But at the end of the day, I like our end markets. I think they're pretty resilient. I like the demand and criticality for what we do, i.e., public safety and enterprise security informed by video security and access control as well as all the great work Mahesh is doing on the product side, in Command Center. So we'll see where we're at. But as we sit here in November, do I like how we're entering into 2024? Absolutely. And if there's any changes to that, obviously, we'll update you in February.

[Adam Tindle, analyst]

Got it. Okay. And then as we think about that backlog converting to revenue, obviously, supply chain is still challenged, but starting to get better, and I'm wondering what that could ultimately mean for 2024 growth in various scenarios. Obviously, I'm not guiding to that. I hear you on the [indiscernible], but if supply were to kind of free up in a blue-sky scenario, are you looking at high single-digit growth or better? What are the kind of the different scenarios based on potential backlog converting to revenue?

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Yes. I think I would just stick to the [indiscernible] as a general high-level anticipated marker and reserve any additional color on either technologies or segments for the February conversation. But again, Adam, and I appreciate the question. But all I would tell you is I feel very good about going into 2024, and we'll update you in about 90 days.

[Adam Tindle, analyst]

Okay. Yes. Understood. I know you like to stay conservative, which I think we all appreciate. Maybe just 1 final point on this for Jason. As this backlog comes through, can you maybe speak to the margin profile of that? I can't remember if you're a FIFO or LIFO, but there may be some benefit from higher priced backlog coming through and would think that would potentially help margins moving forward. But any finer point you can put on the mechanics of that would be helpful. .

[Jason Winkler, executive]

Sure. So beginning in Q3 of last year is when our P&L began to see the benefits of the work that Jack and his team did around strategic pricing. We've seen that continue in the back half of last year as well as the entirety of this year. So continue to focus on price and optimization and some of our new products, which customers really like also come at a price increase for us. So in terms of backlog, we prioritize around, first of all, customers -- priority goes to public safety. But for the most part, the backlog that we do have in products is representative of the prices that we've implemented [indiscernible] July of last year. So you've seen it show up in the P&L, and we would expect that to continue with our growth being driven by both volume and price.

[Gregory Brown, executive]

And I think we do [indiscernible] operating margin next year.

[Jason Winkler, executive]

Absolutely. Yes, exactly.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Tomer Zilberman with Bank of America.

[Tomer Zilberman, analyst]

Just the first 1 for me. So your revenue outperformance this quarter versus street expectations really shown through LMR and Command Center. But it looks like you fell a little bit short on a Video product and SI. Can you talk about the weakness there? What drove the 5% growth this quarter?

[John Molloy, executive]

Sure. Thanks, Tomer. So first of all, I want to highlight the fact that we're actually really pleased with Q3 because the 8% is against the backdrop of a comp last Q3 of 33%. So our full year expectations remain unchanged. It's really a linearity story. And I think leaving that, I think we take a look at it and say, from an alignment standpoint from the portfolio investments, we just announced the H6A camera. We're now shipping the ACC8, which is a unified video management solution. And then more importantly, if you think about the verticals that we serve, it's government, which has shown resilience in funding, it's education is health care and industrial, which has actually grew 17% for us this quarter. We're really pleased, and we think there's good synergies on the investments we're making in the markets that we serve.

[Gregory Brown, executive]

And Tom, I think you said 5% per video, as Jack said.

[John Molloy, executive]

Actually 8%. over 33% .

[Gregory Brown, executive]

[indiscernible] 33% comp. In terms of the segment, S&S, of 5, I remind you that includes the decrement and deferral of Airwave revenue, which is important and compresses that. But at the same time, we continue to have great performance in command center software with the strong print for Q3. We have strong managed services performance and something that's not even reflected in Q3 is Denmark. And Molloy's team did a fabulous job on a multiyear project and multiyear managed services contract to close on Denmark.

So I think that also should inform how you interpret the S&S performance.

[Tomer Zilberman, analyst]

Got it. And if I can just follow up. In terms of your 4Q and your fiscal guidance, I'm sure this is just something more with language than anything your 4Q guidance of 4% implies the higher end of your revamped fiscal guidance, while the low end of your fiscal guidance would imply around 3.5% growth for 4Q. So can you just talk about what would draw -- what could happen that would draw that incremental 0.5 point weakness?

[Gregory Brown, executive]

Yes. I think what I would say, Tomer, is I kind of focus on the approximately 4%. I understand the math differences of how you disaggregated it. But we're looking and anticipate 4% revenue growth for Q4. By the way, that's in the face of $105 million of headwind for Q4, $50 million, which is the Airwave deferral that's in that growth, $40 million, which is the business -- light business model, change that we informed you on a couple of months ago, a couple of quarters ago. And there's $15 million of additional FX headwinds. So the 4% is actually a pretty healthy quarter, that we're pretty proud of, and that's why we're raising the full year accordingly as well. .

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley.

[Meta Marshall, analyst]

I just wanted to dive into a couple of your comments on the call. You guys noted that Rave was doing very well. Is that more customers coming on? Is that you're able to kind of cross-sell it, upsizing other products along with it. Just kind of where some of that Rave strength coming from. And then maybe on the federal side as well, I noted you talked about the $75 million P25 deal, but just -- is that a broadening of agencies, just faster refreshes, just kind of commentary on the 2 sources of upside this quarter would be helpful.

[Mahesh Saptharishi, executive]

Just to start out with on the integration piece, we announced a quarter ago, I believe, at this point, where we are bundling Rave with all our new Vesta offers going forward. There's an integration between our call handling solution and Rave as well. We have deeper penetration into the education market with our integration with Orchestrate and with our Video solutions, panic button being a big part of it. We integrated the Panic Button Rave elements with [indiscernible] for real-time prime center. So all of that acts as a very positive synergy, and I think that helps with the really accelerating rate adoption across the board.

[John Molloy, executive]

As it relates to federal, we're having a record year. And as you know, the federal government closed just occurred September 30. We're seeing it, it's broad-based. It's Department of Defense. It's Civil, it's law enforcement, it's multiyear. So we're really pleased with what happened in federal. And then when you start to think about some of the federal supplemental requests, One of the items in there is $106 billion for the critical national security, which is going to fund Ukraine and Israel. What I would highlight is during the course of this year, we've actually shipped $100 million into Ukraine, a little greater than $100 million at this point in time. So as you think about it, everything related to federal, Joe Balchen, John Zidar and their team have really done a job we're really pleased with.

[Jason Winkler, executive]

And just to remind everybody, the size and scale of our federal business last year was 7% of our total revenues. This year, it's trending slightly higher than that. It's an important market for us. And it remains an area of focus, but it's smaller than state and local.

[John Molloy, executive]

And 1 final thing, that we've talked about is around the NDA and Secure Communications Act, that has essentially been an unfunded mandate. And now there's $450 million for the cybersecurity state and local grant, it's going to fund rip and replace, which should be beneficial from a camera business standpoint. .

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Ben Bollin with Cleveland Research.

[Unknown Analyst]

This is Brian Wilcox on for Ben. I was wondering if you could update us on the APX NEXT refresh cycle, kind of where we are in that and how you see that playing out into '24 and '25?

[John Molloy, executive]

Sure. So in 2 words, I'd say, momentum acceleration. We're now received of $600 million of orders since our introduction in late 2020. We actually did $100 million of orders in Q3 '23. I think the thing we're most pleased with is we're having good success within major cities, but we're now starting to see smaller state and local customers place orders against us.

I would attribute a few things. It's a lot of the basics, I would call world-class ergonomics, audio quality. But the game changer for us has really been the application adoption customers, the demand to have location that works hand in glove with our command center software and Rave solution, the ease of use by way of smart programming and then the ability to extend the network through SmartConnect have really been a game changer. I think we look at it and say they're -- when we look at our portfolio, APX NEXT family and radios, there's really nothing like it in the public safety domain.

[indiscernible], I think you asked a follow-on question around [indiscernible]. We've typically said our LMR business and the device plays into that as it's a mid-single-digit kind of business.

[Unknown Analyst]

Okay. And 1 follow-up, if I could, on the Surveillance business. I think you called out incremental verticals getting involved there, but we would love to hear your perspective on the mix between commercial and public sector and surveillance and kind of how that's shifted and where it's going?

[John Molloy, executive]

Sure. So public safety is now 1 of our 2 largest vertical markets in terms of video security. And I'd remind everybody that when we acquired Avigilon, that was essentially a nascent business. So that's been the function of our sales team's ability to take a new portfolio in the government. So that's the first thing.

In the enterprise, our business in enterprise, particularly in video security and access control is a little different than most. It's really centered around safety and security. The primary verticals that we touch there, as we've said, is education. It's health care. And then business around energy production and utilities and transportation, which have all grown as well. Those are really the core verticals for that business in the enterprise space.

[Operator]

The next question comes from the line of Joe Cardoso with JPMorgan.

[Joseph Cardoso, analyst]

I actually just want to follow up on the APX NEXT comment and the momentum you're seeing there in combo with the LMR growing mid-single digits. We're just coming up against some quarters with tough compares. So I just wanted to -- just curious or maybe it's more of a clarification. If you think that mid-single-digit growth is sustainable even on top of the difficult compares over the next couple of quarters? And then I have a follow-up.

[Jason Winkler, executive]

So our portfolio is refreshing itself around APX NEXT, as Jack mentioned, $600 million of orders since introduction in 2020. And we have continued to invest in other parts of the portfolio, too, like Tetra and others. So we're at still early stages of device refresh. And while having had a number of good quarters and continued demand, we would expect to continue to be able to grow that business as well as, as I mentioned earlier, the pricing strategy that supports the investments that we make, and we spend a sizable amount of R&D to innovate and advance the portfolio should lead to continued growth in the next year. .

[Joseph Cardoso, analyst]

Got it. That's great. And then my follow-up actually on free cash flow. You had another solid quarter here. It appears that tailwinds are materializing, example being the elevated levels of inventories that we've seen over the past couple of quarters, that's coming down a bit. I guess if we take a step back and we starting to cycle past some of the choppy free cash flow generation we've seen over the past couple of quarters, just given kind of that dynamic macro environment and returning more to a consistency type of level we've seen in the past relative to conversions. Any thoughts on whether the level of shareholder return can be maintained or accelerated going forward, just given working capital, improving the momentum behind the business, et cetera?

[Jason Winkler, executive]

Sure. So I'll start with this year. I mentioned that we're solidly on track to deliver on the $1.9 billion in cash flow. That was an aggressive plan that we set at the beginning of the year. We mentioned in February that, that included $300 million of higher cash taxes over 2022. And with cash flow at this point through 3 quarters being up, we are well positioned to deliver on that $1.9 billion. You're also right in that our inventory levels continue to come down. They're down $200 million from this point last year. They're down $85 million sequentially, and they're still at $950 million.

So as we look into next year and the opportunities, we envision continued opportunity to balance investments in inventory with record backlog and working capital optimization into the future.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions]. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll now turn the floor over to Mr. Greg Brown, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer for any additional comments or closing remarks.

[Gregory Brown, executive]

So first of all, thanks for everybody dialing in and listening, but also thank you to everybody at Motorola Solutions, a great quarter, great execution. A lot of moving parts, but I love the team we've assembled, and I love the collaboration and pristine focus we have, both balancing results and investing for the long term. I also would say in closing that in a world of challenging and increasing threats, I think the investments we've made in safety and security are as important as ever. We -- in effect, when you think about what we do, we are solving for [indiscernible]. We're solving for safer communities, safer schools, safer hospitals, safer stadiums. And we do that by linking and integrating public safety with private organizations and private institutions to ensure that the solutions that we deliver and provision and the bidirectional customized workflow within them, protect people, property and places.

Again, I'm proud of everybody. I think the outlook for our business is strong. Record orders, record backlog, a robust funnel, lots to do, but also lots of opportunity as well. Look forward to talking to you in February. Thanks.

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