Kilroy Realty Corp

NYSE:KRC

Earnings Call Transcript 2019-Q1

[Operator]

Good day, and welcome to the Q1 2019 Kilroy Realty Corporation Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today's event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Tyler Rose, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. On the call with me today are John Kilroy and Jeff Hawken as well as other senior members of our management team, who are available for Q&A.

At the outset, I need to say that some of the information we will be discussing is forward-looking in nature. Please refer to our supplemental package for a statement regarding the forward-looking information in this call and in the supplemental.

This call is being telecast live on our website and will be available for replay for the next 8 days, both by phone and over the Internet.

Our earnings release and supplemental package have been filed on the Form 8-K with the SEC, and both are also available on our website.

John will start the call with an update on our market conditions and review of the first quarter. Jeff will review operational highlights, I'll finish up with financial highlights and review of our updated 2019 earnings guidance that was published yesterday in our earnings release. Then we'll be happy to take your questions. John?

[John Kilroy, executive]

Thank you, Tyler. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. I'll begin this morning with a review of our market conditions, which continue to drive strong leasing activity. Then I'll summarize our first quarter results and finish with an update on our development projects.

Real estate fundamentals remained strong across our West Coast markets. New supply is extremely limited, and there are a few land sites suitable for near-term development.

Demand remained solid up and down the West Coast, and we are seeing more diversified demand. It's not just technology and media, it's far more broad-based.

These strong conditions have driven double-digit rent growth on a net basis across our key urban markets. Among the biggest gains, South Lake Union rents are up more than 25% year-over-year; San Francisco rents are up 15%; vacancy rates are now below 6% in our urban markets and hitting record lows in some areas; Bellevue is at 2.9%; San Francisco is at 4.4%; and South San Francisco is about 2.5%. And with very few large blocks of space available in our key markets, we expect the upward pressure on rents to continue. In fact, we're currently experiencing record high rents in most of our markets. Other indicators that we monitor, including job postings and VC funding remained healthy.

Seattle and San Francisco Bay Area continue to create new jobs at the fastest rate in the nation, led by big technology. In San Diego, job postings ticked up approximately 15% over the prior quarter. Capital raising also remained strong year-over-year, driven by steady VC funding and a dramatically stronger IPO market. We also see support for continued regional strength and the robust levels of investment the key industries are making in their future.

Global research and development spending across technology and life science approached $675 billion in 2018. This level of spending is driving rapid innovation and the continued penetration of technology into the core operations of nearly all businesses. The entertainment and media industries alone are expected to generate globally more than $2 trillion of revenues this year, as digital content accelerates growth across the sector, and we expect this to continue. We now have Disney and Fox and others to come, expanding into content streaming. We think this will translate into significant increased demand for space.

The unique characteristics of our West Coast markets continue to attract significant investor interest. We are seeing diverse capital sources, including sovereigns, private equities, large institutional funds and major family offices exploring purchases or joint ventures here. There's particularly strong demand for high-quality, well-located assets with low CapEx requirements. Large investors seem to be shifting their preference towards high quality, state-of-the-art newer assets, as investors have achieved strong returns from the West Coast investments. The region should continue to attract more capital in all forms, creating a virtuous cycle of investment and growth. And we feel we're particularly well positioned given the young age of our modern portfolio.

Now let's move onto first quarter results. We delivered another strong performance. We signed new and renewing leases on just over 235,000 square feet of space in our stabilized and development portfolio, with cash rents that were up 34% and GAAP rents that were up 15% from prior levels. Our stabilized portfolio is now 96% leased. We estimate that rents across our portfolio are approximately 20% below market, which as we mentioned last quarter, is the largest rent differential in the company history.

We debuted our One Paseo mixed-use development project in Del Mar, with a community opening of the retail space that is now over 90% leased and over 1/3 occupied. With this strong momentum, we made further progress on leasing the office component, which is now more than 75% committed.

We commenced construction on 2 life science development projects, Phase 1 of Kilroy Oyster Point, a 630,000 square-foot project in South San Francisco; and our 9455 Towne Center Drive building, a 160,000-square-foot project in the University Town Center submarket of San Diego.

And last month, we were awarded the EPA's ENERGY STAR Partner of the Year for the sixth year in a row as well as the EPA's highest honor Sustained Excellence. This underscores our continued commitment in sustainability in our leadership position as a global leader among all publicly traded real estate companies.

In just 5 weeks, subsequent to quarter end, we signed an additional 520,000 square feet of new leasing and renewing leases with cash rents that were up 13% and GAAP rents that were up 34%. This activity included a 154,000 square-foot 10-year renewal with Lucile Packard in the San Francisco Bay area. In addition, 3 of the leases were expansion leases, 1 with 23andMe at Oyster Point Tech Center and the other 2 were in San Diego. Across these 3 transactions, tenants roughly doubled their existing square footage. With 23andMe expansion, we are now 100% leased at our Oyster Point Tech Center. This brings our total year-to-date leasing to over 750,000 square feet.

Turning to developments. We are making good progress in all of our current projects. In Hollywood, all components of our mixed-use project are scheduled for completion next year. Both the office and the retail space are fully leased. In Seattle, at 333 Dexter, we continue to have meaningful leasing discussions and remain confident that we will be substantially leased before it's delivered later this year. And in Del Mar office space, our One Paseo project is now 76% leased or committed and marketing is underway to the residential units that will begin delivering towards the third and fourth quarter.

Upon stabilization, these projects will generate an estimated cash NOI of approximately $90 million, 70% from office and 30% from residential retail. This is in addition to the projected stabilized NOI of $75 million from the 3 projects we have in the tenant improvement phase, including The Exchange, 100 Hooper and One Paseo retail. Given our confidence in leasing of 333 Dexter and against the backdrop of strong market fundamentals and growth in the biotechnology and health care industries, we moved ahead with 2 new projects in the first quarter.

At Kilroy Oyster Point, we commenced construction on Phase 1 of our 40-acre life science campus situated on the waterfront in South San Francisco. This space encompasses 630,000 square feet of lab and office space in 3 buildings, and has a total incremental investment of approximately $450 million. We expect to deliver the project in the second half of 2021. Kilroy Oyster Point commands an extremely attractive location in one of the nation's largest and most dynamic life science clusters. Near-term demand in the area exceeds 2 million square feet, vacancy hovers at 2.5% and the existing supply is extremely limited. We are in discussions with a handful of tenants for Phase 1.

In March, we commenced construction on a 160,000-square-foot property in San Diego at 9455 Towne Center in the UTC submarket. Our expected incremental investment in the project is approximately $95 million, with the scheduled delivery date of mid-2020. The project is situated in the heart of the University Town Center in close proximity to the new San Diego trolley service and the University of California, San Diego. It is a key employment center for a range of technology and life science companies.

Demand for the life science and UTC market is -- submarket is very strong, with a vacancy rate of approximately 5% and limited new supply. Office fundamentals are similar evidenced by a vacancy rate of under 4%. While we forecast this building to be occupied by a life science company, we've designed a flexible project that also appeals to office users. As you recall, we took a similar approach to The Exchange in San Francisco, creating the opportunity to make the best decision at the appropriate time.

Lastly, with regards to the Flower Mart, we expect our Prop M allocation sometime this summer. It's too soon to tell when the 4 secret challenges will be resolved, but we continue to see significant interest from a variety of large users in what is arguably one of the most sought-after commercial submarkets in the country.

To fund our development, we remained committed to capital recycling. This year, we are targeting $150 million to $350 million of dispositions. We are currently in the market with 2 assets, with a total value of approximately $150 million.

To wrap up, let me reiterate our focus on 3 key 2019 objectives that we communicated on our February call. First, execution in our development pipeline. During the quarter, we continued to make meaningful progress on leasing our development projects, including 333 Dexter and One Paseo and started 2 new projects: Kilroy Oyster Point Phase 1 and our Towne Center Drive building. We continue to believe that development is the best way to create shareholder value at this point in the cycle, and our focus is to ensure that our current projects deliver on time, on budget and they achieve superior returns.

We expect to make meaningful leasing progress in our development projects before year-end. Second, maximizing value on our stabilized portfolio. This includes leasing up our vacancies, driving rents where possible and proactively addressing expirations. And third, maintaining a strong and flexible balance sheet. This includes keeping our metrics conservative and having access to multiple forms of capital.

That completes my remarks. Now I'll turn the call over to Jeff for more detail on operations. Jeff?

[Jeffrey Hawken, executive]

Thanks, John. Hello, everyone. Since John has given you a good picture of conditions in our markets and I know most of you follow market statistics, I will focus my comments on updating you on lease expirations and the mark-to-market rental rates across our portfolio.

I'll begin with an update on lease expirations. We made a lot of progress on our remaining 2019 expirations. We now have leased approximately 65% or 549,000 square feet of the 856,000 square feet of 2019 expirations. That leaves a little over 300,000 square feet or approximately 2.5% of the core portfolio remaining this year. None of the leases exceed 25,000 square feet, and they're spread across our 4 regions.

In total, we estimate that our 2019 lease expirations are approximately 24% below market. As we discussed last quarter, we had 2 lease expirations in 2020 that exceeded 100,000 square feet: one in Northern California and one in Southern California.

Two weeks ago, we signed a renewal on the Northern California property. In Southern California, we now expect the tenant to vacate upon lease expiration in the fourth quarter of 2020. We have begun marketing of the space and plan to make good progress over roughly 18 months before expiration.

Average rents in our stabilized portfolio continue to provide upside opportunity. On a portfolio-wide basis, our estimated average in-place rents are approximately 20% below market. As John noted, the GAAP has never been larger in our history as a public company. By region, our in-place rents for San Francisco are approximately 31% below market, Seattle is 14% below market, San Diego is 8% below market and Los Angeles is about 12% below market.

Now Tyler will cover our financial results in more detail. Tyler?

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Thanks, Jeff. FFO was $0.95 per share in the first quarter, which includes a positive $0.03 related to the improved credit quality of a tenant for which the company took a reserve in 2018. Same-store NOI grew 3.2% on a GAAP basis in the first quarter. On a cash basis, it declined 4.2%. As we previously commented, the decline was largely driven by last quarter San Diego expirations as well as downtime from the Amazon lease in Seattle and downtime related to the Cruise and Dropbox leases in San Francisco.

At the end of the first quarter, our stabilized portfolio was 92.5% occupied and 96.2% leased.

Moving to the balance sheet. In February, we repaid a $74 million mortgage note at par that was due in June 2019. In March and April, we sold approximately 1.2 million shares structured as 12-month forward agreements under our ATM program at a weighted average price of $75.92. To date, we have not settled on these nor the 5 million forward shares sold last August. At this time, we expect to sell the 5 million shares in July. We currently have $465 million available on our credit facility, which is expandable by $600 million under an accordion feature. Our debt to market cap at quarter end was approximately 24% and our debt-to-EBITDA was approximately 5.7x pro forma for the equity raises.

Now let's discuss our updated guidance for 2019, provided in yesterday's earnings release. To begin, let me remind you that we approached our near-term performance forecasting with a high degree of caution, given all the uncertainties in today's economy. Our current guidance reflects information and market intelligence as we know it today. Any significant shifts in the economy, our markets, tenant demand, construction costs and new supply going forward could have a meaningful impact on our results in ways not currently reflected in our analysis. Projected revenue recognition dates are subject to several factors that we can't control, including the timing of tenant occupancies.

With those caveats, our updated assumptions for 2019 as are as follows. Our targeted dispositions for 2019 remain in the range of $150 million to $350 million. For the commencement of construction at Oyster Point and UTC, we anticipate remaining 2019 development spending of $400 million to $500 million. We expect to commence revenue recognition on our Dropbox lease at The Exchange in 3 phases: the first phase in the third quarter, the second phase at the year-end and the third phase in 2020.

Our forecast for year-end office occupancy is between 94% and 95%. We expect 3% to 4% growth in GAAP same-store NOI for the full year and flat results on a cash basis with the negative impact largely incurred in the first half of the year.

The impact of expensing internal leasing costs and third-party legal fees, associated with the change in lease accounting, remains in the $0.08 to $0.10 range for the year. $0.02 of this was incurred in the first quarter.

Taking all these assumptions into account, our updated 2019 earnings guidance is $3.64 to $3.78 per share, with a midpoint of $3.71. We are effectively increasing the midpoint of our range by $0.03 from last quarter, driven by the reversal of the bad debt provision for the improved tenant credit quality.

That's the latest news from KRC. Now we'll be happy to take your questions. Operator?

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Today's first question comes from Nick Yulico of Scotiabank.

[Nicholas Yulico, analyst]

Great. I just had a couple of questions here. First on Oyster Point. Can you just talk a little bit more about the demand you're seeing in the market, whether market rents you think have hit close to $6 net per month? And then on the cost of the project, is there anything in the first phase that's impacted by, let's say, a higher amenity offering for tenants which drove up the cost per square foot for the first phase?

[Tracy Murphy, executive]

Nick, this is Tracy Murphy. I'll try to take them in the order you gave them. So demand continued to be very strong in that market as everywhere in the Bay Area and across all of our markets, but it's just beyond about 2 million feet, specific to South San Francisco. And rents, to answer your question, haven't quite reached $72 annually, but they have been squarely sort of in the $65 or mid-$60 sort of range from a Class A perspective. And then total costs, I think, John covered that in his comments, but the incremental spend on Phase 1 is roughly $450 million, call it, $950 million all-in for Phase 1. And on the amenities, we will have a pretty robust amenities package consistent with expectation for Class A project. And there will be a redundancy across phases that we've been thoughtful to plan that sort of holistically before we committed to dollars for amenities on Phase 1.

[Nicholas Yulico, analyst]

Okay. That's helpful. John, I just want to -- just turn to San Francisco and the Central SoMA Plan litigation, which is underway. I mean, is your intention there still to wait for that to get resolved before you thought about starting Flower Mart even assuming if you got Prop M allocation?

[John Kilroy, executive]

Well, I think we could start substructure and so forth, but we'll take a look at that, Nick. I'm open minded, but I want to understand what the consequences could be given this particular litigation, which is more about blocking views, not by us, but by others to some existing condo owners, those -- and the one neighborhood group. I think 1 of the 4 is going to be solved here pretty soon. So we're pretty open-minded. But I'm optimistic that these things get resolved, don't go the full distance to the court based upon the history in this city and based upon the history we've had elsewhere. But we're not the final arbiter of what happens, but we'll keep open-minded.

[Nicholas Yulico, analyst]

I guess just one follow-up, John, is, do you think that we could see more announcements that came on leasing for projects in that area where there's already been obviously one major lease that was done while this litigation was going on? Do you think that other tenants could take leases ahead of this being resolved because...

[John Kilroy, executive]

Yes, I think there's a likelihood that there's going to be a really big one. That's all I'm going to say.

[Operator]

And our next question today comes from Craig Mailman of KeyBanc Capital Markets.

[Craig Mailman, analyst]

Tyler, I just wanted to follow up on the bad debt expense. I think 2Q '18, you guys, I think, it was $0.05 net, maybe $0.07 gross. Is there any more bad debt related to the tenant that you reversed that could come in through the balance of the year? Or is this it you guys think?

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Yes. No, there is a couple of pennies left of that reserve. So that could come over time to the extent we have a different view on the tenant.

[Craig Mailman, analyst]

Okay. And they're current on rent and everything, right?

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Yes.

[Craig Mailman, analyst]

Okay. And then just kind of bigger picture thoughts here. You guys did additional forward equity here at a discount to NAV. You guys did the forward deal last year at a discount to NAV. But the sales market is still pretty robust and Park Tower went at a pretty nice cap rate here. I mean thoughts on accelerating dispositions above your guidance versus incremental equity offerings where the stock price today.

[John Kilroy, executive]

Yes. This is John. We look at all those things, more to come.

[Craig Mailman, analyst]

Okay. So would you be willing to take more dilution on equity versus the sales? I guess just high -- big picture. I know you guys have nice yields that you're getting on the development. I mean does the math continue to work to take the discount and then make it up over time? Or are there better alternatives to that initial dilution?

[John Kilroy, executive]

Tyler, do you want to answer that?

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Yes. I mean I think we do look at both alternatives in terms of funding and given that we had started Kilroy Oyster Point and 9455, we thought it was the right thing from a balance sheet perspective to use the ATM a bit more to help fund 2020. But you're right, we look at both dispositions and equity and evaluate how best to fund our growth. But in either event, what we're building and the returns we're getting are very accretive in either event, so that's where we stand on that.

[Craig Mailman, analyst]

Okay. And then just on the forward ATM. When do you think the takedown of that roughly $100 million is?

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Probably 2020. We have flexibility. And we can take it down in pieces or over time the -- as I said in my remarks, probably July for the forward we did last year and probably 2020 for the forward we just did.

[Operator]

And our next question today comes from Manny Korchman of Citi.

[Emmanuel Korchman, analyst]

Tracy, Oyster Point, as you guys build that, do you think that leasing will come sooner and be more build to suit in nature or later, something like Dexter where you have competency at least, but it will be closer to delivery and so you're building more of a generic spec project?

[Tracy Murphy, executive]

I would think of it more in the latter, Manny. I mean the market's really healthy and conversations continue to be healthy despite how early it is, but it's historically not really been a pre-leasing market, but we are pretty excited about our position in that market. And as John likes to say, more to come.

[Emmanuel Korchman, analyst]

And then, maybe John specifically on 333 Dexter, I guess we keep asking the same question is why isn't it leased in such a hot market? Is there anything specific that's holding things up? Or is it just a matter of the tenant hasn't signed yet?

[John Kilroy, executive]

No comments.

[Operator]

And our next question today comes from John Kim of BMO Capital Markets.

[John Kim, analyst]

At KOP, are you committed to have a life science tenant in that asset? Or is there flexibility for an office user as there is at UTC?

[Tracy Murphy, executive]

John, this is Tracy. I mean we -- if you remember back to Exchange, we have a life science warm-up committed on Phase 1, so we think it's likely Phase 1 will go life science, but it does have the flexibility to accommodate either. So I don't know if that gives you any clarity, but there's a lot of flexibility with the way we've designed it intentionally.

[John Kim, analyst]

Is there a strong preference to have it life science just given the market? Or is there greater demand or terminal value if it's an office tenant?

[John Kilroy, executive]

This is John, John. We are kind of agnostic in one sense because we're looking at what's best for value creation. On the other hand, we have multiple phases, and it makes sense for -- the latter phases are likely to be life science to make diverse phase life science. We've had many inquiries from the tech community, not on the life science tech, and then we have, as Tracy said, a handful of significant deals that are pure life science. I think Phase 1 is likely to be life science. We could explore other opportunities and we will. We want to keep our options open, but we're in the unique position of having one of the few really well located entitled sites for lots of square footage for 2.5, 2.7 million square feet, whatever it turns out to be there in the 4 phases. So more to come as we build the final phases. I think we're going to do very well in Phase 1 with a number of life science companies that we are working with.

[John Kim, analyst]

Okay. And then John, just another question on Flower Mart. There are local reports that the planning department will recommend 1.4 million square feet to be allocated to your development, which is a little bit less than you have in Phase 1. Would you feel comfortable moving forward if you didn't get the full allocation of the Phase 1 part of the former?

[John Kilroy, executive]

I don't really want to get into that, John, because there's a lot of negotiations going on between the city and the various developers and so forth. I don't think it's prudent to answer that at this time.

[Operator]

And our next question today comes from Dave Rodgers of Baird.

[Dave Rodgers, analyst]

Yes, John, I wanted to follow up on the asset sales. You did a good job in your comments talking about the demand for the highest-quality assets and the net leased building. What are you comfortable taking to market? You said you got a couple in the market now. Will these be more non-core? Or are you going to sell some of the better assets in the portfolio? How do you think about that today?

[John Kilroy, executive]

Yes, I -- well, remember, to the issue of funding, just generally because dispositions typically are a source of funding for either acquisition or development as the case may be. The -- there is -- as you know, there's debt, there's equity, there's joint venturing either of recapping existing assets or development joint venturing, and of course, there's dispositions. And we've tried to make it clear over the years that we look at all 4 of those things in sort of harmony and what is the best for us at any particular time. Specific to the range, we've given a range of $150 million to $300 million -- or $450 million -- $350 million, excuse me, too many numbers in my head today. And we are very confident on the $150 million. We are assessing a couple of other projects. There was one that we thought we would sell, but when we take it -- when we really drill down into it, we think there's big upside given where rents have gone and where demand is, and we think there's probably 25%, 30%, maybe as much as 50% more value if we do some lease things in that one particular asset. So I can't give you specifics at this point, but we are not going to sell -- I don't see us selling any particularly strong core assets at this point other than one of the ones that's in the current $150 million. So we've got a long year ahead of us. We have a lot of initiatives. And we are -- I mean agnostic to tell you the truth, although when I see the rent increases that we are getting, for example, here in San Francisco, deals that we did just a couple of years ago or 1.5 years ago, now we're at rents that might be 1/3 under today's market in a market that's likely to escalate by another 20%, 30%, 40% over the next few years. So those obviously wouldn't be great candidates.

So it's -- the acceleration in the market rents and demand for space is making our calculation as to what assets to select to dispose of a little bit more difficult.

[Dave Rodgers, analyst]

Appreciate all that added color. Maybe shifting to One Paseo. The office leasing activity that you've done there, any more color that you can give on that and then the demand for the remainder of the space that you have under construction there?

[John Kilroy, executive]

Sorry, was that One Paseo?

[Emmanuel Korchman, analyst]

Yes. Sorry.

[John Kilroy, executive]

Yes. Okay, you want to cover that, Rob?

[A. Paratte, executive]

Sure, Dave. This is Rob Paratte. As we said on our last earnings call, the leasing activity we've had on the office space, particularly, at One Paseo is unprecedented. And I think what we are seeing in San Diego, in general, is similar to the trends we are seeing in our other coastal markets on the West Coast, which is that along with fire category tenants, you've got technology tenants, life science tenants that are creating pressure in the market for the best-in-class office space. So when you look at what One Paseo delivers to a modern tenant in terms of floor heights, light and air, that sort of thing, that's what's driving the market. Commodity space, as it always does, kind of lags the market. And we think -- I think what's unique also about One Paseo particularly is that it is mixed-use. So you've got the residential, which is -- it's all going to add the additive. You've got residential. You've got this great retail where we're 96% committed now with many of the shops open, and it's just creating a synergistic effect between the 3 components. So we're really excited about the activity we have. We're excited about the types of tenants we are talking to, and I think it bodes well for this whole Del Mar's submarket in terms of just future rent growth and absorption.

[Dave Rodgers, analyst]

Great. Last question for me, Jeff. The 4Q '20 expiration sizing on that and how much work the building might need to re-tenant?

[Tyler Rose, executive]

So the 1 tenant that's going to be vacated in the fourth quarter 2020. It's about 135,000 square feet and we got 18 months, so we're pretty excited about the activity. And Rob and his team are actively involved in looking for new tenants.

[Operator]

And our next question today comes from Aaron Wolf with Stifel.

[John Guinee, analyst]

John Guinee here. I guess Tracy, 2 quick questions. What's your fully loaded price per square foot to develop Oyster Point and UTC? And how much more is that than generic office product?

[Tracy Murphy, executive]

Okay, let's take that. So the first one on Kilroy Oyster Point. I think we kind of touched on that, the incremental spend is roughly $450 million, but per square foot, we're approximately $950 a foot, which is a little bit shy of where market is on a competitive basis, just based on our favorable land basis. So we're in a good spot from an all-in cost basis on Kilroy Oyster Point. And then, I know I'm going to rely on Michelle for the total cost of 9455. I think we quoted $95 million on an incremental basis.

[Michelle Ngo, executive]

Right. And then the price per foot is about $775. That's all-in.

[Tracy Murphy, executive]

Yes, so slightly different. You can see the difference of land basis and just construction costs, but they're both very favorable in terms of the competitive set that they will plan so to speak as we lease up. And then your question on just the incremental difference between office and life science. I don't know that we've said, but it's pretty modest. Some structural things that we do, but as you know about Kilroy, we do a lot of big floor plays, more rigid floor to accommodate tech and density. So for us, it's really modest.

[John Guinee, analyst]

Okay. And then Tyler, I think at the -- your Investor Day last June in New York City, you gave soft guidance of an ability to hit $1.10 or $1.20 a square foot in -- a share in FFO by year-end 2020. Do you still feel good about that number?

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Yes. Taking all the other changes that have occurred like the lease accounting change and dispositions and staying leverage neutral and all that, we still feel we're in that ballpark, yes.

[Operator]

And today's final question comes from Jason Green with Evercore.

[Jason Green, analyst]

Just a question on dispositions. Given disposition guidance is unchanged from a modeling perspective, can you help us understand the expected cadence of dispositions through the year.

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Roughly third quarter for those.

[Operator]

Thank you. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Tyler Rose for any closing remarks.

[Tyler Rose, executive]

Thank you for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in KRC. Bye-bye.

[Operator]

Thank you, sir. Today's conference has now concluded. And we thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines, and have a wonderful day.