HNI Corp

NYSE:HNI

Earnings Call Transcript 2020-Q2

[Operator]

Good morning. My name is Jason, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the HNI Corporation's Second Quarter Fiscal 2020 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. Thank you.

Mr. McCall, you may begin your conference.

[Matt McCall, Investor Relations and Corporate Development]

Thank you. Good morning. My name is Matt McCall. I'm Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Development, for HNI Corporation. Thank you for joining us to discuss our second quarter fiscal 2020 results. With me today are Jeff Lorenger, Chairman, President and CEO; and Marshall Bridges, Senior Vice President and CFO.

Copies of our financial news release, earnings presentation and non-GAAP reconciliations are posted on our website. Statements made during this call that are not strictly historical facts are forward-looking statements, which are subject to known and unknown risk. Actual results could differ materially.

The earnings presentation posted on our website includes additional factors that could affect actual results. The corporation assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during the call.

I'm now pleased to turn the call over to Jeff Lorenger. Jeff?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Thanks, Matt. Good morning, everyone. Let me start by saying our members did a great job of managing through challenging second quarter conditions. We aggressively managed costs and drove productivity, offsetting much of the impact from lower volumes. We kept our focus on our customers and also played offense, generating and seizing market opportunities where we could. Moreover, through this experience, we have developed new and better ways to operate our businesses that will benefit us in the future.

We delivered solid profitability in the second quarter. Our cost containment efforts, combined with the top line benefits from our diversified revenue streams, the breadth of our price points, our channel reach and our ability to quickly pivot, all contributed to the better-than-expected results.

While we told you in the first quarter call that we expected a loss in the second quarter, the combination of these items helped us deliver a quarterly profit. Moreover, given our solid results in the second quarter, our year-to-date earnings per share is actually up slightly versus the first half of 2019. This is a great accomplishment given the many headwinds we are facing and it demonstrates, again, what is unique about HNI.

Last quarter, we told you we had two priorities when it comes to our pandemic response. First is the health and well-being of all HNI members. Second is the success is to successfully navigate the pandemic in the short term by supporting cash flow and maintaining our strong balance sheet, while remaining focused on our long-term strategies. So far, we have successfully navigated both priorities. We quickly adjusted our facilities and were able to operate safely and effectively to serve our customers. In addition, as we began returning to our offices, we implemented multiple safety measures to ensure a safe process for all members. Our members' safety remains paramount.

We also further strengthened our balance sheet. We generated free cash flow in excess of prior year levels and significantly lowered our already modest debt level. We have the financial strength and cost structure to successfully weather this crisis and any aftershocks for a prolonged period.

Our financial strength and demonstrated ability to flex costs, we are making two changes. First, we are restoring salaries to their pre-pandemic levels, 60 to 90 days earlier than initially anticipated. If you recall, we implemented temporary salary reductions as part of our balanced approach to the pandemic. Our members overdelivered on multiple fronts in the second quarter. I'm grateful for their efforts and happy that we are able to restore salary levels about a quarter earlier than originally anticipated. Second, we are accelerating our investment levels. I would like to note that these actions are a direct result of our financial position and the efforts of our members. It is not an indication that the crisis is over and we acknowledge our markets continue to be dynamic. That notwithstanding, we see opportunities and are using our strong financial position to invest.

I will now share some thoughts on the demand picture across our businesses; what we experienced in Q2, what we are experiencing currently and how we view the future. First, our Q2 year-over-year order activity. Here is what we have been seeing recently. Orders in domestic Workplace Furnishings, excluding our e-commerce business, were down 36% in Q2. Over the past five weeks, they are down 33%. We are generally seeing a seasonal uptick in orders, but our year-over-year declines have remained relatively constant and are in line with what we have experienced in previous recessions. E-commerce orders were up 114% in Q2 and up 87% over the past five weeks. We are confident this business will still deliver strong growth both in the near and long term.

Residential Building Products orders were up 2% in Q2, and we continue to see positive growth rates over the past five weeks. We believe the secular trends discussed last quarter, which I will detail again in a moment, are providing consistent tailwinds. We are keeping an eye on land and labor shortages for builders, which could slow down production. However, indications are encouraging thus far. Again [indiscernible] revenue streams, price point breadth and channel reach are unique to HNI. And our recent growth rates reflect these benefits.

Next, as we discussed last quarter, we are seeing several positive trends that should provide near-term and post-pandemic revenue support. In our Workplace Furnishings segment, we see the potential for multiple supportive secular trends. First, increased office floor plate resets as organizations work to adjust to the new social distancing environment; second, increased demand for our architectural products platform, which can quickly create physical separation with minimal construction time while maintaining natural life; and third, more demand tied to work from home and from increased smaller satellite office locations. HNI is uniquely positioned to benefit from these trends given the value orientation of many of our brands.

Generally, these trends will take some time to gain momentum. Most of them will require a broader and more meaningful return to the office than we are currently seeing. Customers are generally assessing their options right now and are still in a mode of figuring out next steps. These trends won't be enough to offset near-term cyclical pressure, especially with the new growth in COVID cases nationally. However, HNI is particularly well positioned to take advantage of these secular opportunities as they develop.

In our Residential Building Products segment, the positive order trends reflect our strong competitive position in the market and specifically with large national builders. In addition, trends tied to de-urbanization, elevated nesting and work-from-home trends, record low mortgage rates and low housing inventory, all support positive demand patterns and should provide cyclical and secular support going forward. We are excited about the cyclical strength, secular opportunities and company-specific initiatives within our Residential Building Products segment.

I will now turn the call over to Marshall to discuss our second quarter results and our current financial position. I will then come back and give some concluding thoughts. Marshall?

[Marshall Bridges]

Thanks, Jeff. Consolidated non-GAAP net income per diluted share was $0.20. That was down from the $0.38 we reported in the second quarter of 2019. Second quarter consolidated organic sales decreased 21.2% versus the prior year. Including the benefit of acquisitions, sales were down 20.6%.Consolidated non-GAAP operating income declined $9.4 million versus prior year on a sales decline of $109 million, which means our deleverage rates or decremental margin was 8.6%. That's well below our targeted range of 25%, which includes the benefits of cost actions. Given the circumstances, our members did a great job of limiting the impact of declining volume.

In the Workplace Furnishings segment, first quarter sales decreased 24.8% year-over-year. Despite the top line pressure, we were able to generate $7.8 million of non-GAAP operating income in the segment. While that is down from the $19.7 million in the prior year quarter, the decremental margin was only 11%.

Sales in our Residential Building Products segment decreased 8.6% year-over-year organically and 6.1% when including acquisitions. Within the segment, new residential construction revenue declined 5% organically, and sales of remodel and retrofit products were down 15% year-over-year.

Despite the year-over-year sales pressure in Q2, we delivered higher operating profit and expanded operating margin versus the prior year. Operating profit totaled $14.4 million compared to $13.4 million in the prior year period, and operating margin was 13.1%, up from 11.5% in the second quarter of 2019.

For HNI, overall, second quarter gross profit margin was 36.1%. This is down 50 basis points year-over-year, primarily due to volume.

Our second quarter non-GAAP tax rate was 32.5%. This was abnormally high, driven by changes to our full year earnings outlook. We expect the tax rate to return to more normalized levels moving forward. I should note that the only difference between second quarter GAAP and non-GAAP EPS was tax. Non-GAAP EPS excludes the tax impact from onetime charges that we recorded in the first quarter of 2020.

So overall, our second quarter results again demonstrated the strength of our operating platform.

Okay. Let's shift and now talk about our liquidity and debt levels. At the end of the second quarter, we had $183 million in total debt, which was down $47 million from the first quarter and was $103 million lower than the prior year quarter.

Our gross leverage or gross debt-to-EBITDA ratio was 0.8. This remains well below the 3.5 times gross leverage covenant in our existing loan agreements. From a net debt perspective, our leverage ratio of 0.7 is down from 0.8 last quarter and 1.2 in Q2 of last year.

Our teams have done a nice job of managing the balance sheet and generating cash flow. Free cash flow for the second quarter was $54 million, more than double the $23 million we generated in the second quarter of 2019.

Given our low leverage ratio, free cash flow levels and ability to quickly adapt our cost structure, we expect to maintain our strong financial flexibility in a variety of scenarios. This means we will remain well within our debt covenants. We expect to reduce year-end net debt below last year's level, and we project free cash flow will be significantly above our $52 million dividend.

So as we look forward to the rest of the year, the pandemic has limited our visibility and our ability to provide sales and earning guidance. However, we will share a few thoughts on what we expect. First, as I just covered, we do feel confident in our ability to generate strong free cash flow and maintain our strong balance sheet under a variety of scenarios.

Second, we expect third quarter sales and profit to track ahead of second quarter 2020 levels, primarily due to seasonality. Third, we continue to believe 25% is the appropriate deleverage or decremental margin estimate over time. That's higher than what we just achieved in the second quarter.

We're expecting the impact of salary restorations, investment acceleration and less favorable business mix to pressure decrementals in the second half. As a result, we expect decrementals to be in the range of 20% for the full year 2020.

I'll now turn the call back over to Jeff.

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Thanks, Marshall. In the quarters leading up to the pandemic, investments made in recent years were delivering returns. You can see evidence in our recent revenue, margin and cash flow trends. Then this past quarter demonstrated more of what is great about HNI. Not only were we able to quickly adjust our cost structure to support cash flow on our balance sheet as our Q2 results indicate but we also took additional actions during the pandemic that will be additive to our pre-COVID strategic momentum and support our profitable growth strategic framework. Our members remain optimistic, nimble and thoughtful, and our pandemic-driven successes will help our businesses going forward.

We will now open up the call for your questions.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Reuben Garner from The Benchmark. Your line is open.

[Reuben Garner, The Benchmark Company]

Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Maybe starting with the two changes that you made on the compensation returning to pre-COVID levels and acceleration in your investments, can you just talk about what gives you the confidence to do that? It sounds like maybe some of the pressures in the traditional office are still there, maybe there a while. Is it the growth in the e-commerce and the Building Products segment that's giving you the most confidence to restore things? Or is there more to it than that?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Well, yes, I think, Reuben, it's a good question. I think we're we believe or we see our balance sheet is strong, cash flow is strong, the businesses are performing well given the environment. And so our members have worked hard, and we don't have as Marshall just went through the projections, we see it as a we have confidence in all the businesses actually; Workplace Furnishings, Residential Building, e-com, kind of across all our platforms. And so we felt strongly that we should pull that investment forward and invest in our members, and we're confident it's the right move, and we're confident that we can maintain that.

[Reuben Garner, The Benchmark Company]

And can you if I missed it, sorry, I'm having connection issues. But can you talk about what investments you're accelerating? Where that investment is going? Where and when, I guess, we'll see it show up? Are these savings initiatives? Are they growth? Is it the combination of the two?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes. It's kind of across the business, Reuben. We're accelerating everything from operational productivity investments, e-commerce capability, new product, digital marketing. They are all initiatives that we still had in play. We're just putting more behind them.

[Reuben Garner, The Benchmark Company]

Okay. On the Building Products side, margins were obviously very strong in the quarter. Can you talk about the puts and takes going forward on the margin front? And then I think in your last release, you talked about an expectation that you might see revenue declines in that business. With your orders now returning to positive growth, is it too soon to expect that revenue growth can return as early as the third quarter? Any other things to think about there?

[Marshall Bridges]

Yes. Reuben, it's a good question. The outlook for Residential Building Products, we're seeing order growth in the second quarter, and we've seen it be positive here more recently as well. There are concerns around just sort of supply constraints, land, labor availability, but demand is there. So I'm not our outlook for Residential Building Products is positive, but there could be a pause or maybe not a rapid acceleration in the near term.

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, Reuben, this is Jeff. I think the other thing is that the remodel retro, dealers are reporting consumer online traffic of double digits, in-store traffic is actually now above pre-COVID levels and with more motivated buyers. So what we believe, we're seeing a lot of the nesting motivated buyers who have been kind of penned in and decided to remodel. And we're also seeing people who can't find a new move-up home because of the low supply, instead, they're remodeling. So we've kind of got two phenomenons going on there, both positive demand drivers on the remodel side.

[Reuben Garner, The Benchmark Company]

Great. That's very helpful. Last one for me, I think, is the decremental margin. Is it fair to assume that the delta between the performance in the second quarter and your targeted levels, was most of that from the pullback in investments and the comp reductions, and that's why you'll return back to the more normal range? Or was there were there any mix elements within the businesses that helped on the margin front in the second quarter? That's for me. Congrats on the quarter and good luck navigating through the rest of the year.

[Marshall Bridges]

Yes. Thanks, Reuben. Yes, there's really three drivers of why the decrement margins will be a little higher in the second half than we saw in the second quarter and you hit two of them. The return of the salary restoration and the acceleration of investments. The third item is business mix. We are seeing a little bit unfavorable business mix in the second half compared to the second quarter.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Steven Ramsey from Thompson Research Group. Your line is open.

[Steven Ramsey, Thompson Research Group]

Good morning. I guess in workplace, can you maybe go through the drivers, maybe for a second setting aside e-commerce? How has that shaped up? Where are the actuals varied versus expectation? And then you discussed pricing as a driver. Was this due to previously placed orders? Or is pricing holding up fine in the competitive environment?

[Marshall Bridges]

So far, Steven, the pricing has held up pretty well. These are previously implemented pricing actions that primarily relate to the tariffs that got put in place middle of next last year. So we're still anniversarying those.

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, Steven. And on your question, just in general, I think the education segment, we had a relatively strong season for us, probably a little above what we had anticipated. Core commercial customers are kind of down in that same range, kind of across all verticals in that kind of low 30s. But I'd say education was a vertical that was strong for us, stronger than we anticipated.

[Steven Ramsey, Thompson Research Group]

Great. And then the education market benefit, does that help in Q3 or is that past due?

[Marshall Bridges]

It's pretty marginal in Q3. Steven, that's a season where it happens all at once, and that order period is over and we've shipped most of it.

[Steven Ramsey, Thompson Research Group]

Great. And then just kind of flipping to the e-commerce side. If I remember right, it was maybe the 5% to 10% of workplace sales in the past. What was it in Q2? And I guess, kind of as we go forward with strong growth continuing, is e-commerce a margin headwind still or dilutive for that segment or is it scaling up in the midterm?

[Marshall Bridges]

Yes. As it relates to it's the mix of Workplace Furnishings, on a trailing 12-month basis, Steven, it's about 7% of workplace of HNI, actually. Your other question about where it's going, it is accretive to our profit. It has a different sort of economic model, so there are different margins involved. And we're still in the sort of the growth phase.

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes. We were positive in the second quarter and business is going to be able to deliver, but we're also investing a lot now to keep pushing the growth.

[Steven Ramsey, Thompson Research Group]

Great. And then, I guess, a question on the residential side of the business. Is there a headwind in the second half just from the lack of housing starts in April and May?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

That's a great question. Because April, May, permits were down about 18% year-over-year, and it's usually a 90-day lag. Now the flip side is, permits were up 10% in June and there's a pretty healthy backlog as well. So that's and remodel, as I commented earlier, remodel retro is stronger than we think. So it could be, but we think it's going to be fairly smooth given all the demand out there.

[Steven Ramsey, Thompson Research Group]

Great. And last quick one for me. On the acquisitions of distributors on the residential side, can you discuss kind of the context of making these? And was it more strategic or opportunistic in the challenging market? Or just any color there.

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes. Good question. We have a really strong order distribution network, and it was we had an opportunity to add to that. And when we see those, we take them if we can get the deal done. So it adds to our network. We've got a solid operating platform that's profitable, great service levels, and it really enhances it just expands the network out and the operating platform out for that business. So we are always kind of on the lookout for opportunities to do that.

[Steven Ramsey, Thompson Research Group]

Excellent, thanks

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from the line of Greg Burns from Sidoti. Your line is open.

[Greg Burns, Sidoti & Company]

Good morning. We've seen, across the space, your backlogs being elevated exiting the quarters given the production issues that occurred over the quarter. Where do your backlog stand? Was it up notably at the end of the second quarter?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Greg, we were pretty consistently operationally open during the second quarter. So we didn't really experience any of those operational issues that you mentioned. And our backlog is commensurate with the order and shipment activity that we've had. So there's nothing out of the normal there.

[Greg Burns, Sidoti & Company]

And then in your prepared remarks, you mentioned some market opportunities that you're able to take advantage of this quarter. What exactly were those? And then you also mentioned some new and better ways of operating. Could you just maybe give us a little bit more color on those?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, Greg. What we have is we have a very agile, nimble culture. And we kind of went on the offense. We tipped up some rapid response product teams. We tipped up aggressive home and healthy workplace programs. We tipped up some e-commerce sites closed-loop for some of our customers, and we partnered with them to deliver products through our e-com platform to their employees. And so that's kind of what I'm referring to. We just pivoted quickly, used our agile culture and seized the day on some of those opportunities, and they continue. The point is, those things continue on. In a time like this, we look for new and better ways to do business. And some of the things are long-lived, and we will continue on with those as we go.

[Greg Burns, Sidoti & Company]

Okay. And then in terms of your e-commerce strategy, can you just talk about how you're approaching that market to capture the work-from-home opportunity, whether it's I think it's mostly a wholesale play right now through OFM, but do you have like more direct-to-consumer HNI branded websites in the pipeline? What's your strategy on e-commerce and capitalizing on work from home?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, great. We've got kind of all of the above. We have a robust platform that really right now goes through third-party resellers, more to a B2B, B2C. But we have initiatives across the businesses and across the brands that also help them do some direct and then also help our existing dealer base capitalize on the home office work trends. So we've kind of got things in-flight on all fronts.

[Greg Burns, Sidoti & Company]

Okay. And then maybe if the market does shift more toward maybe a hybrid working model where work from home becomes more significant in the market, what are maybe some of the advantages that HNI might have over others to capitalize on that? And I'm thinking maybe your distribution price points, but maybe you could just highlight some of the reasons why you think you might be successful if the market shifts in that direction?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes. We have great price points. We have broad distribution channels. We're already a strong competitor in the small office space, in video game space for the home. So we've got a good start in this. And our price points, our channels of distribution, we think are all going to be allow us to take advantage of the work from home. The other thing we see, candidly, is we think as this thing plays out, we're hearing a lot about people are getting kind of burn out from working at home. And as that develops, a lot of people may maintain a more robust work-from-home office and working in the office as well. So it's we think, over time, that's going to be a positive for the industry and really play to our strength as well.

[Greg Burns, Sidoti & Company]

Okay. And then lastly, you mentioned it's mostly conversations with clients, but what are you seeing in your pipeline? Are you seeing an uptick in cancellations, orders being pushed out? And then, I guess, if you could just maybe give us a little bit more color on those conversations. Are you seeing an uptick in at least conversations with your customers, them showing interest in formulating some kind of plan that they need to implement once things open up?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, Greg. A couple of things there. One, we have not really seen cancellations uptick. It's been minimal. Now not surprisingly, we've seen project push. And that's mostly driven on the fact that, in some cases, it's labor availability on new construction, either on the workplace or the residential building side. But it's mostly just customers delaying, taking a wait-and-see approach to return to the office. That's so that's resulted in some push and some delays.

[Greg Burns, Sidoti & Company]

Just around the conversations you're having with customers?

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, yes, sorry. Yes. Sorry, I forgot that. Yes, there's a lot of conversation going on in the exploration stage on what people need to do near term, medium term and long term. And the near-term conversations around how do you return to the office safely, screening, spacing, partitions, there's a lot of conversations. I wouldn't say there's been a lot of movement there yet. It's still early to for people to pull the trigger. They kind of hurry up and then wait and decide. And then the obviously, the upticks in infection rates and whatnot have not really have kind of slowed that down a bit as well. But it's early on how that will play out, Greg. But I think net-net, it's going to create more furniture events for us because there will be movement on the office front, and there's also going to be more robust, as I said earlier, home office program. So I think that's going to be a positive demand driver over time.

The other thing I think that we're starting to see a little bit of is just kind of the smaller markets are becoming a little more active because they have less challenges with public transportation, elevators and that kind of thing. And we play well in a lot of those markets with some of our businesses. And so that's been a real positive for us as well. So I think they're becoming also early adopters to see for us how this is going to play out. So we'll get some good learnings there as well.

[Operator]

There are no further questions. I'll turn the call over to Mr. Lorenger for closing comments.

[Jeff Lorenger, President and Chief Executive Officer]

So thank you, everybody. Just a quick comment. The near-term environment definitely remains dynamic and uncertain, but we continue to feel confident in our ability to positively navigate whatever conditions we encounter. Our recent moves to restore salary levels and accelerate investments reflect this confidence. So I just want to say, again, thank you to all the HNI members out there with this great performance, and we look forward to talking to you soon. Have a great day.

[Operator]

That concludes today’s conference call, you may now disconnect.