Entergy Corp
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Entergy Corp
Earnings Call Analysis
Summary
Q1-2024
Entergy reported Q1 adjusted earnings per share of $1.08, impacted by mild weather and lower industrial sales. Despite early setbacks, the company affirms its full-year guidance and a long-term 6-8% growth target. Major highlights include securing 8 new electric service agreements adding 1.1 GW of new load. Entergy is focused on grid resilience with $1.9 billion in projects approved in Louisiana, and a $411 million investment in a new power station. The company's nuclear fleet is performing well, with all plants in Column 1 of the NRC Action Matrix, and operating cash flow was $521 million for the quarter.
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Good morning. My name is Alex, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Entergy's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions].
I will now turn the call over to Bill Abler, Vice President of Investor Relations for Entergy Corporation.
Good morning, and thank you for joining us. We will begin today with comments from Entergy's Chair and CEO, Drew Marsh; and the Kimberly Fontan, our CFO, will review results. [Operator Instructions].
In today's call, management will make certain forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to a number of factors, which are set forth in our earnings release, our slide presentation and our SEC filings. Entergy does not assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. Management will also discuss non-GAAP financial information. Reconciliations to the applicable GAAP measures are included in today's press release and slide presentation, both of which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website.
And now I will turn the call over to Drew. .
Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. We had a very productive start to the year with progress on activities that support our near- and long-term objectives. That includes continued progress towards our growth opportunity as well as important achievements in our risk reduction efforts that will benefit our key stakeholders.
Starting with our financial results for the quarter. Today, we are reporting adjusted earnings per share of $1.8. This result for the quarter is below our expectations, yet we remain firmly on track to deliver on our annual commitments. I'm confident because of actions we have already taken, our team's track record on flexible spending and our demonstrated ability to deliver steady, predictable results. Kimberly will go over the details.
Now I'll cover the business updates from the quarter. Everything we do starts with the customer because that is the key need to create value for all our stakeholders, customers, employees, communities and owners. Our efforts on that front were recently recognized by EEI's outstanding National Key Accounts Customer Engagement Board which is determined by customers, validating our customer-centric progress, hundreds of the nation's leading chain and multi side businesses voted to recognize Entergy for delivering exceptional service.
We still have more work to do, but we are grateful for this milestone. Additional evidence of progress comes from the execution of 8 new electric service agreements with industrial customers signed in the quarter, including the data center in Mississippi that we announced earlier this year. These contracts represent approximately 1.1 gigawatts of new load and more than $150 million of annual adjusted gross margin.
As a reminder, our conservative planning practices assume that most rather than all volumes will come to fruition. Customer affordability remains a key focus area. Last quarter, I outlined our efforts to secure federal support for projects that would benefit our customers. Our utilities received 6 letters of encouragement from the GRIP application submitted late last year.
Full applications for all 6 projects will be submitted to the Department of Energy by the end of May. We also continue to advance our $4.5 billion Part 2 application for the DOE loan program, which, if successful, will lower capital costs for our customers. Our nuclear fleet continues to make progress. And all our nuclear plants are now in Column 1 of the NRC Action Matrix. However, operational excellence must be earned every day.
Waterford 3 is currently working to recover from a shutdown following a transformer failure. At approximately 20 years old, the transform was only halfway through its expected life. And early indications point to equipment failure is the cost. We have an interim solution with fair transformer that can support us to 90% capacity until the replacement transformer arrives.
We're working diligently to bring the plant back online in the coming weeks. In Mississippi, Grand Gulf wrapped up its 28-day refueling outage in March. This is the plant's shortest refueling outage since 2007. This outcome is a result of the team's intense focus on safety and operational excellence. We and most importantly, our customers appreciate the work they put in to achieve this outcome. Stakeholder engagement remains a focus area in an important way to assess progress is through our regulatory outcomes.
Starting at the federal level, System Energy reached a $116 million agreement in principle with the New Orlan City Council to resolve all current Seri claims. Several New Orland City Council members cited near and long-term benefits to customers through the settlement. This agreement is consistent with Series settlements with Mississippi and Arkansas, both of which were approved by FERC and determined to be fair and reasonable, is also consistent with the reserve recorded in 2022.
With the addition of New Orleans, SIRI has resolved roughly 85% of its litigation risk. Turning to the retail level. Last week, the Louisiana Public Service Commission approved the first phase of Entergy Louisiana's resilience and grid hardening plan. The plan includes 2,100 projects totaling $1.9 billion of investments over 5 years. The projects will provide important resilience benefits to customers and communities. A more resilient grid will also serve as a catalyst for growth as it bolsters confidence for customers seeking to locate or expand in our service area.
The approval includes a forward-looking recovery mechanism with semiannual true-ups which will provide a solid foundation for our continued customer investment in Louisiana. There are also reporting requirements to provide transparency to our stakeholders on our progress. While the investments will take place over the next 5 years, we are getting underway immediately. For those of you attending our Analyst Day in person, we will show you some examples of the future of our system through recently installed resilience projects. Entergy Louisiana is also in settlement discussions on 2 other proceedings.
The FRP renewal or alternatively a base rate case and the streamlined and enhanced renewable RFP process to add up to 3,000 megawatts of solar. Given solid progress thus far, the hearing day for these dockets have been extended to allow time to reach settlement in these cases. Entergy also filed for approval of Bayu Power Station, a $411 million 112-megawatt quick-start non-baseload natural gas power station. It is an innovative solution to meet the power needs in a challenging area on the edge of the Eastern Interconnect.
To enhance local resilience and storm restoration speed, the unit would be situated [indiscernible] large in Southern Louisiana. This is an area that is critical to our nation's energy security and Louisiana's economy. Entergy New Orleans filed an updated resilience and grid hardening plan. which requests approval of Phase 1, a series of investments totaling $168 million over 3 years.
This is in addition to the grid resilience project that was approved by the City Council earlier this year. We are requesting to expedite the technical conference on May 1, and we are seeking a decision around midyear, so we can get started on this important work for customers. Our gas LDC sale continues to move along smoothly. The stakeholder engagement process has been going well, and we remain on track to close the transaction by the third quarter of 2025 And lastly, Entergy Mississippi filed its annual FRP in March. Mississippi's efficient mechanism enables continued customer-centric investments while providing appropriate credit support for Entergy Mississippi as it makes these investments. Interim rates became effective on April 1.
Finally, we are very excited about our upcoming Analyst Day in June. We'll use that opportunity to show off New Orleans give you a look at our resilience investment. We provide a more detailed dive into our multiyear strategy and outlook. That includes a significant customer growth opportunities before us. The plans to expand our clean energy portfolio and to advance reliability and resilience and our efforts to help support customer affordability while maintaining our credit strength and earnings growth. We've had a productive start to 2024 with solid progress and execution across key customer, operational, regulatory and financial front. And by continuing to put our customers first, we will deliver premium value to each of our key stakeholders.
I'll now turn the call over to Kimberly, who will review our financial results for the quarter.
Thank you, Drew. Good morning, everyone. Today, we are reporting first quarter adjusted earnings per share of $1.08. Several items affected the quarter results, including mild weather, the timing of operating expenses, including planned generator maintenance outages and the acceleration of education spending and lower sales to cogeneration customers. With the first quarter results under our belt, we remain firmly on track to achieve 2024 results in line with our guidance, and we are well positioned to achieve our long-term 6% to 8% growth outlook. I'll review all of this in detail. In the quarter, we had 2 items that were considered adjustments and excluded from adjusted earnings that I'd like to mention. First, Entergy Arkansas received a decision from the U.S. District Court in a long-standing case around opportunity sales.
The decision resulted in Entergy Arkansas recording a $0.46 impairment of a regulatory asset in the quarter. Second, Entergy New Orleans recorded a $0.27 regulatory charge to share incremental income tax benefits from the 2016 to 2018 IRS audit resolution. Our first quarter adjusted EPS drivers are laid out on Slide 4. Our results reflect regulatory actions that include recovery of the investments that we are making to benefit our customers.
Depreciation expense is also higher as a result of those investments. For retail sales, as I noted earlier, weather was mild this year but not as mild as 2023. Excluding weather, sales volume was not a big driver for earnings as higher sales to residential was largely offset by lower sales to commercial. Industrial sales were down 0.6% quarter-over-quarter driven by lower sales to cogeneration customers. We continually monitor fundamentals important to our industrial customers. As you can see in the appendix of our presentation, the metrics remain supportive, giving us confidence in our industrial growth outlook. Utility other O&M was higher this quarter than first quarter last year due to several drivers, some of which have variability throughout the year.
For example, health care claims were higher and we had more planned maintenance outages at nonnuclear plants. We also accelerated vegetation management in advance of storm season. Compared to our guidance assumptions, other O&M in the quarter was higher than initially planned. However, we fully expect O&M to balance out over the year and ultimately be roughly in line with our original guidance assumptions.
Moving to Slide 5. Operating cash flow for the quarter was $521 million, which was lower than last year. The largest driver was customer receipts, which included significant deferred fuel collections in 2023. Deferred fuel costs within operating cash flow declined approximately $350 million compared to last year. Credit is summarized on Slide 6. We maintain a strong ongoing focus on our credit as it is an important element in executing on investments for our customers. For the quarter, our metrics were impacted by timing of debt issuances that will balance out through the course of the year.
Our underlying business continues to generate strong FFO and our outlook support metrics in range or better than the rating agency expectations. On Monday, S&P issued a credit update for SIRI, improving its outlook to positive and affirming its rating followed the announced settlement with the City Council of New Orleans. S&P further noted that they could raise Series ratings by 1 notch if the settlement is approved by FERC.
As we have said, settlement of system energy litigation provides certainty for all stakeholders. Consistent with this, S&P noted these settlements reduce uncertainty of potential future claims and support the company's future cash flow stability and predictability. Turning to Slide 7. Our equity needs remain unchanged. We continue to make progress against our 2025 and 2026 equity needs. As of the end of the quarter, we've locked in more than 30% of our equity need for those years utilizing ATM forward. As shown on Slide 8, we are affirming our guidance and longer-term adjusted EPS outlook. Weather and lower sales to cogeneration customers have been a headwind to start the year. For the full year, we are benefiting from sales to additional industrial customers.
The impact of these sales offset this headwind. We continue to be on track for our full year expectations. Regarding utility O&M quarterly timing can vary significantly, especially when compared to a prior year where we deployed significant flex spending for the benefit of customers following a very hot summer. As we look to second quarter this year, we expect O&M to be higher than last year with the increase roughly in line with the first quarter variance. Key drivers of the timing of our spending in 2024 include the following: In 2023, all of our flex spending increases were in the back end of the year. So we expect corresponding reductions in spending this year in that same time frame. In second quarter last year, we received significant prescription rebates covering multiple years, which we don't expect to recur at that level or in the same time frame this year.
I noted earlier that our first quarter variance includes accelerated vegetation spending. We expect that acceleration to continue in advance of storm season in 2024. This acceleration reduces spending in the back half of 2024, assuming normal weather. While we have variability in the quarters in spending I want to reiterate that we fully expect O&M to balance out over the year, consistent with our outlook, and we are confident we will deliver on our financial commitments. We continue to prioritize the needs of our customers to create value for our key stakeholders. We're well positioned to execute and deliver successful customer, operational and regulatory outcomes along with steady, predictable financial results.
As Drew said, we're excited about our Analyst Day in June where we'll provide a long-term in-depth view of our plans for the future. And now the Entergy team is available to answer questions.
[Operator Instructions] We have our first question from Shar Pourreza from Guggenheim Partners.
It's actually Constantine for Shar. Can we start on the updated thoughts around the CapEx plan given the data points around resiliency and additional industrial customers, you had about $900 million in plan with a bigger number now approved. Is that pushing CapEx higher in the near term? And how should we think about the moving pieces there?
Yes. From a capital plan, we did get $1.9 million approved. We had $900 million through this outlook period. Of the $1.9 billion approved, about $1.5 million of that is in that same 3-year period. So that's an increment of about $700 million for Louisiana. The Louisiana portion of that $900 million was $800 million. So that's an incremental $700 million how that rolls out through the capital plan, we'll update all that in -- at Analyst Day, along with the effects of the rider and any other changes to our capital and our financing plan. .
Okay. Perfect. And maybe can you help us reconcile some of the charges taken in the quarter and how the refunds may impact cash and financing needs in the near term? Just do you anticipate any pull forward of equity issuance? Or are there offsetting factors that we should think about?
We don't see any needed change in equity. We had already [ reserved ] a substantial portion of the income tax or the deferred tax effect for New Orleans, we did increase that, but it's -- the return period is a pretty long period. And so there's no effects in the outlook period, no material effect on the outlook period.
Perfect. And maybe just one last follow-up on some of your commentary around regulatory outcomes. Do you have any updated thoughts around the FRP process and rate case process in Louisiana and is the period after the direct testimony kind of the make it ripe for kind of more intense settlement discussions? Any kind of lessons learned that you can implement?
It's Rod. I think I can say, look, 5 weeks ago, we filed -- we suspended the procedural schedule to facilitate settlement. If you think about the date of May 21, when staff and intervenor testimonies do, in the next 3 weeks, I think it's reasonable to assume that 1 or 3 things will happen. .
We either announce the settlement. We'll mutually agree to extend the dates procedurally to facilitate settlement or pivot back to a procedural schedule with the resiliency docket addressed last week, I think the next 3 weeks will be telling about the progress we make. But we're we're comfortable that the stakeholders in Louisiana are now focused on settlement discussions.
Our next question comes from Jeremy Tonet from JPMorgan.
I just wanted to dig in a little bit more on plus $0.15 revised weather-normal sales just a stronger industrial sales outlook as you put out there. If you could kind of bucket whether that's more the pet chems benefiting from cheap ethane and the outlook improving there or chief methane benefiting ammonia other industries or whether that's data centers, just wondering which one of the industrial activities out there? Are you seeing, I guess, more upside?
I think -- this is Rod. I can touch on that and certainly can really can follow. But beyond the AWS transaction in Mississippi, we're continuing to see significant interest in the data center sector both hyperscale as well as colocation in Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi. But we continue to see strong interest from the metal sector as well, specifically aluminum and still with projects in various stages of development you can add in there with the RRA developments are showing up in blue ammonia in addition to the conversations around carbon carbon capture. And that's not to exclude what we would consider to be our traditional sectors of growth in the service territory around refining and petrochemicals. We plan to give more color, of course, at Analyst Day, but I didn't want to suggest that there was one specific sector. There's a fair amount of diversity in our backlog and growth outlook.
And Jeremy, just to add to that for the $0.15 for this year, you can think about that specifically as our historic industry along the Gulf Coast, and those industrial customers are online and taking power currently.
Got it. That makes sense. It's very helpful there. That kind of leads into my next question. I was just wondering for the Analyst Day. Obviously, you're not going to give us all the details here, but just wondering any broad parameters of what we should expect on the day.
Well, I mentioned a few of them in my remarks earlier around -- some of the things that Rod just discussed and the opportunities that we see for growth from a sales perspective and where that's coming from some more color and depth to that conversation.
Certainly, more clarity around the kinds of investments that we plan to make. And that includes the generation side as well as the golden wire side, we're talking about reliability and resilience. Some of the work that we are doing to drive productivity internally. From a data perspective, we'll be giving a more robust outlook that goes out to 5 years. That will include capital and earnings, and we'll make clear, as Kimberly just mentioned about our expectations from a financing perspective. And also, since we'll be in New Orleans, we'll have a number of our leaders here with us, and you'll get a the ability to access the broader segments of our management and leadership team that you normally do when you just see Rod and Kimberly and Bill Abler and myself out on the road. So you'll get to see what we are seeing in our various jurisdictions and getting more boots on the ground view of how things are progressing. .
Got it. Sounds great there. And if I could, I just want to finish with SIRI real quick. It seems like a lot of meaningful progress over the past year or so. And just wondering your thoughts on, I guess, the prospect for continued positive momentum here in settlements given all the ground that's been covered so far.
Yes. And I think the -- you're right, being in a position where we can say comfortably that roughly 85% of the SIRI risk has been addressed through settlement. It does lend itself to to what I would think would be a compelling case to resolve the rest with this may Louisiana. We can't speak and don't speak around the nuances of negotiations in any period. But we do believe that the fact that New Orleans is now off the table, it gives us a shot to pursue some with Louisiana near term. .
Our next question comes from Michael Lonegan from Evercore ISI.
I was wondering if you could provide a preview of your planned resiliency and filing in Texas. You laid out a cadence of spending for Texas at the EEI conference. And I was just wondering if the Texas Resiliency Act since then has changed how you're thinking about it in terms of the amount and timing of planned investments?
Yes. It's Rod, again. We're going to make that filing in the second quarter. And some of the considerations around the amount will be influenced by how we think about the contribution to the resilient spend from the state grant program, not to mention to your earlier point, how the capital would flow through the recovery mechanisms affecting both affordability and credit. But we'll make that filing before the end of second quarter.
And I'll add that as you probably recall, the Texas part of the resilience investment was pushed back a little bit because we have a lot of growth upfront. And so we -- so you probably won't see as much and that's where the grant piece comes in. And also the mechanism, as we've talked about before, since we have all of this growth in our service territory, mechanism doesn't work as well from a credit perspective for us. So we're working on that. We have another legislative session coming up, but you'll see all of that reflected in our ultimate resilience filing.
Great. And then secondly for me, on the [indiscernible] power station, is the $411 million of investment included in your base capital plan. And then also, given that it would be floating off the Louisiana Coast. I was just wondering if you could talk about the protections in place for the plant from severe weather with work crews and equipment potentially being impacted? I know sometimes you see that with oil rigs off the coast.
Yes. As far as the $411 million that is included in our capital plan from a protection, it's a technology that's been used elsewhere. And certainly just not necessarily in this area along the East Coast, and certainly is expected to be resilient in heavy winds and stores.
And just to be clear, it's not out in the middle of the ocean, it is on land, but it's in a canal so that it can float with the storm surge. And so that's really what we're talking about here, not an oil rigging out in the middle of the Gulf.
Our next question comes from Nick Campanella from Barclays.
Going back to the data center discussion, just you gave the stat on a 1.1 gigawatts of new load, is going to be about $150 million of new gross margin, and this relates to the Mississippi Center. But just thinking about how that drops to the bottom line when you're kind of taking the financing costs or other items there. Can you kind of help us understand how it translates to EPS? Just I'm thinking about there's clearly more opportunity like this on the horizon and trying to see what those are worth?
Yes. Thanks for the question, Nick. When you think about the Mississippi Data Center, it ramps up over time. So you're not going to see a lot of that in the 3-year outlook period. We can talk more about what that means over the 5 years that Drew referenced at the Analyst Day. But you're right, when you think about AGM on that sort of customer, you are also putting in infrastructure to support it. So there is -- you saw a shift in spending in the fourth quarter update where we added incremental renewables, for example, in Mississippi because those investments and the associated costs associated with those investments will offset some of that from a bottom line perspective and then financing costs for those type of things as well. But again, you'll see most of that effect outside the 3-year outlook period.
Yes. It's -- the investment is the thing that will ultimately go to the bottom line. The AGM is there to support that incremental investment. So we think it's really important and it demonstrates the growth opportunity at the time in front of us and the demand from our customers to help them meet what they want to do. .
Great. That's really helpful. Appreciate it. And then I guess, you mentioned in your remarks and you have it on slides here, you've been above the 14% FFO-to-debt target that the agencies you at. I'm just thinking about Moody's continuing to be a negative outlook. Do you think that there's a window to kind of address that ahead of summer? And what's your latest conversations been there?
We certainly have regular conversations with the rating agencies, and they are constructive conversations about what's happening in the business. If you look at our underlying calculation, the FFO trailing 12 months for the quarter was similarly strong to what it was at the end of the year. And then we issued more debt in this quarter, as I mentioned in my comments, that would balance out over the course of the year, putting us strongly in the rating agency's expectation at the 14% or better.
So strong discussions, certainly, the rating agencies have to do their evaluations and make those decisions, but hitting that threshold for 2023, which we did and then continuing to execute on that and as we work to build towards 15% are important to us.
Our next question comes from Anthony Crowdell from Mizuho.
I guess just quickly, if I could get Rod busy here. Just on SIRI, Rod, I know there's you're working with Louisiana Public Service Commission on maybe settling there. Separately, there's the formula rate plan issue. Is there anything that prevents both of those being settled together, meaning one is a FERC issue and one may be more of a state issue.
Short answer is no. We're pursuing our effort with stakeholders on selling both and the interest being avoiding any litigation associated with either. So short answer is no, there's nothing preventing us from pursuing a settlement on both issues regardless of federal versus state jurisdiction.
Great. And then just an easy one, I guess, Drew on the gas sale update. I know it's a very long window for approval. Just any update or timing or procedural schedule you can provide us? .
So the gas LDC as I mentioned, is on schedule. We have there's more details in the appendix. And so I think that at the LPSC, it's moving on quite quickly, the time line a little longer in New Orleans. But at this point, we don't see anything that's impeding the progress and the ultimate completion of the transaction. So we're firmly confident there is a possibility that it could move up a little bit. But at this point, we're sticking with our third quarter 2025 time line. .
Our next question comes from the line of Steve Fleishman from Wolfe Research.
Most of my questions were answered. Just wanted to get a little more information on this Waterford trip. The -- do you expect that you'll have the new transformer by kind of summertime?
Probably not. That's a new transformer. And as I know you're aware, there's a backlog for large transformers like that. And we don't have one of that size as a spare. So we do have the interim transformer ready to go, and it should be ready by summertime. That gets us back to about 90%. And so the plant should be online this summer, but we won't have full deliverability out of the plant that we get a new transformer in place.
Okay. All right. But you can run 90% just with the spare. So it's kind of most of the way. So...
Correct. Okay. And then maybe just on MISO transmission, when are we going to get I know they're going through the different tranches, like when are we going to get to the Entergy zone area for MISO transmission...
I believe that they are expecting to put something out late this year, but the time lines have moved around a little bit for them, but I think that was the previous expectation. If you're talking -- just to be clear, you're talking about the long-term planning piece of it, right?
That's right. That's right. .
Yes. Yes. I think there -- as you know, they've been in via North for a while working on stuff. And I do believe that they plan to put out some expectations later this year.
Okay. Okay. And then I guess just on the Cogent sales. Just, is this -- you still expect -- are you expect the industrial growth for the year, Cogent sales, if I recall, are pretty low margin.
That's absolutely correct, Steve. And the Cogent now were for the quarter, but that's really a volume difference, slight EPS difference. But as we discussed the incremental industrial sales certainly support that, helping us achieve our objectives at the end of the year. .
Our next question comes from the line of Angie Storozynski from Seaport Research Partners.
So two questions. First, as you see this data center load materializing in your service territory, is there any discussion about potential changes in like T&D tariffs that these big users would be paying? I'm mostly trying to see if there's any way to shield residential customers from payments for any sort of T&D upgrades that will be needed to accommodate this load.
Yes, when you think about data centers, they certainly are requiring infrastructure to support them. And so we are ensuring that the pricing of those customers priced in a way that support those customer coming that also support the rest of our customers in the infrastructure build that's needed. When you referenced Mississippi specifically, we worked closely with the legislature to ensure that we had the ability to add the infrastructure that we needed, but also that we protected all of our other customers through the contract. And so it was a benefit both to add the customer to the system, but also to the state of Mississippi and all of our other customers. And I would think about it the same way for future data centers that add to our service territory.
Good. And speaking of Mississippi, and I'm just thinking about SIRI, all of these issues that are related to the Grand Gulf nuclear plant. I mean as you are basically trying to finish all of the litigation associated with that plant, is there -- I mean, would you, for example, consider signing like a long-term contract with a data center instead of having disputes with -- on the regulated level just to make this asset dedicated to an industrial or commercial user as opposed to having it again, it seems to have led to a number of regulatory disputes in the past.
Yes, that's a good question, Angie. We are thinking about various potential solutions there. Right now, the output of those facilities are contracted for the life of the unit to each of the operating companies that participate. So I don't think that there's any room for data center pieces, but we are looking at all other alternatives in order to try to mitigate that future potential litigation risk because that is definitely on our radar screen, although we don't have anything to discuss about that right now. .
Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Levine from Citi.
I was wondering if you could touch on how you may approach attracting data centers outside of Mississippi, you mentioned Arkansas and some other locations. Can you just provide some context or some color around the regulatory attractiveness of those states on a comparison basis?
Yes, this is Rod, again. And I think Kimberly alluded to it. The example in Mississippi I think, serves as a blueprint for other states when you think about how we shape both the legislation from the actual state the contractual guarantees, if you will, from AWS and the regulatory outcomes that facilitated our ability to meet AWS' needs, I think, plays well.
It would certainly focus around job creation and economic development from a stakeholder engagement standpoint, similar to the way that we did in Mississippi, I see that. being very relevant in, say, Louisiana and Arkansas. Certainly, there's going to be an expectation regardless of where these data centers are cited that there's rate protection for the other customers in the service territory, notwithstanding any conversation around the green or the clean dynamics, we are going to serve that customer's needs and the attributes that are important to them.
But here's the piece that I think becomes really important as we're engaging our regulators and our customer stakeholders. What Mississippi was able to do was to expedite the CCN approval process to help us build the infrastructure around transmission and generation to serve to serve that load and also providing credit accretive or instance in Mississippi, line for cash, CWIP during the construction of those facilities, allowing us to to finance those projects and lower the overall cost for customers. If you think about those dimensions, the rest of the states are taking notice of the success in Mississippi from purely a competitive standpoint are trying to figure out how to replicate that -- those types of frameworks in their jurisdictions. But we think it's a blueprint that really projects well for our other states.
Yes. And I'll just add that given what Rod outlined, our regulators and our communities are excited about these potential investments there. Large investments that we're going to throw off a bunch of tax and [indiscernible] and provide some really good jobs. And areas in Central and Northern Mississippi, Northern Louisiana and in Arkansas. There's a lot of rural space out there that data centers can go to. And those jobs are meaningful in those areas. So they're really excited about the opportunity for those investments and the economic activity that comes along with them. That's why, as Ross said, they're competing to figure out how they can serve these potential customers.
Great to hear. And then on one other topic, just in terms of the Texas resistance filing, given your service territory, is there any opportunity to add fire mitigation for wildfire mitigation risk management is a plan?
Yes, that's a great question. And where we are along the coast in Texas, a lot of the resilience investments and the wildfire investment is going to be very similar in overlapping. So yes, that is going to be part of it. I'm sure that wildfire is going to be a part of the conversation or legislature coming up early next year.
And so we do anticipate that there will be some overlap there. I'll just mention further away from the coast in Mississippi, Northern Louisiana Arkansas. We are also thinking about wildfire mitigation investment there to complement all the things that we've already done to monitor and prepare and respond to potential wildfires and all the community work they were doing. But we realized that the next piece of that is investment to mitigate or eliminate wildfire risk. And so that's conversation is ongoing with our stakeholders. And so we'll be looking to create opportunities to manage those risks for all of our stakeholders in the near future.
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Travis Mill from Morningstar.
One on the new industrial customers, including both data centers and the other industrial customers, what's the general split in terms of the CapEx between T&D and generation that you're anticipating? .
There's both there, Travis. The transmission certainly generally is less mineration, but some of it is timing. When you think about we have long-term supply plans where we may have had generation in a plan and perhaps there's some earlier execution of it in order to meet that demand. And as you know, we're in MISO. So transmission is playing through MISO as well.
So we also have long-range cleaning on the transmission. So I don't have the exact split, and I know you can get with Bill and get that specifically. But generally, when you think about the data centers, probably heavier weighted to generation and transmission.
Okay. And then do you anticipate on that generation piece doing an RFP? Or would you have first rights to any kind of new generation build? .
In Mississippi, the legislation enabled us to it effectively gave us CCN authority to build what was needed for that data center to meet their time line. So that doesn't require an RFP process. Some of our jurisdictions have RFPs and others don't. I think it comes down to a customer time line and how you work with all your stakeholders to bring the customer on the time line they're looking for and then what that requires to ensure that we are building strong appropriate assets in order to support the customers overall. .
Okay. And then general, the comments there you just made in general for any industrial customer or more for data versus other chemical producers or factories, et cetera? .
Sorry, the data center is unique and then a larger customer coming in at one time on a faster time line, but I would think about the planning principles the same for all of our customers.
There are no further questions as of right now. I'd like to hand back the call over to Mr. Abler. Thank you.
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