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Earnings Call Transcript
2018-Q3

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q3 2018 EnerSys Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn this conference call to Mr. David Shaffer, President and CEO. You may begin, sir.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Thank you, Kevin. Good morning and thank you for joining us. Before we get started this morning, I promised Kerry Kane, our Chief Accounting Officer, I would say fly, Eagles, fly. So, on the all with me this morning is Mike Schmidtlein, our Chief Financial Officer.

Last evening, we posted on our website slides we will be referencing during the call this morning. If you didn't get a chance to see this information, you may want to go to the webcast tab in the Investors section of our website at www.enersys.com.

I'm going to ask Mike Schmidtlein to cover information regarding forward-looking statements.

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

Thank you, Dave, and good morning to everyone. As a reminder, we will be presenting certain forward-looking statements on this call that are based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainties and changes in circumstances. Our actual results may differ materially from the forward-looking statements for a number of reasons. Our forward-looking statements are based on management's current views and regarding future events and operating performance and are applicable only as of the dates of such statements.

For a list of factors, which could affect our future results, including our earnings estimates, see forward-looking statements included in Item 2, Management's Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations set forth in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended December 31, 2017, which was filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

In addition, we will also be presenting certain non-GAAP financial measures. For an explanation of the differences between the comparable GAAP financial information and the non-GAAP information, please see our company's Form 8-K, which includes our press release dated February 7, 2018, which is included on our website at www.enersys.com.

I'll return it back to you, Dave.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Thanks, Mike. I will begin on slide 3. We were pleased to announce our third quarter results of $1.25 per share, which were well above our guidance range of $1.12 to $1.16 per share. In this quarter, there were positive impacts from taxes unrelated to the recent legislation on our adjusting earnings per share, which Mike will address in his comments.

Sales increased 17% year-over-year, including organic growth of 8%. Simultaneously, year-over-year quarterly gross profit increased $12 million over last year despite continued commodity cost increases creating an $11 million headwind after factoring in selling price recovery. Our price recovery from rising raw material costs was consistent with prior quarters this fiscal year at approximately 70% on total commodity cost inflation.

We have not yet been able to fully recover commodity cost increases so far this year. However, we remain confident in our ability to fully recover these increased costs once commodity prices stabilize. In the meantime, we continue to aggressively identify opportunities to offset higher commodity costs through a mix of price increases and opportunistic cost reductions.

Increased organic volume has helped offset the increased commodity costs with strong gains coming from reserve power in all regions and motive power in the Americas and Asia. In addition, we were once again able to offset the increased spending for Lean, Digital Core installation and new product development with our cost savings initiatives.

Please turn to slide 4. I want to briefly review our global businesses. Recent reserve power order trends continued to be robust in the Americas, driven mainly by increased orders for enclosures and batteries for telecommunications. We believe telecom operators are upgrading their networks infrastructure in anticipation of 5G deployment within the coming years. We believe recent legislative changes, including net neutrality, appear to be having a favorable impact on telecom infrastructure spending. The uninterrupted (sic) [uninterruptible] power supply or UPS business is experiencing good growth, which should continue in fiscal year 2019.

In the third quarter, the motive power business experienced strong organic sales growth. Price increases that we announced in October are contributing, but with lead prices moving toward $1.20 per pound, we anticipate additional selling price increases in the near future.

Europe, Middle East and Africa's year-over-year operating earnings margin exceeded 10% during the quarter. In EMEA, sales in the third quarter for reserve power were strong due to a large telecom project in the Middle East and Africa region and were coupled with positive UPS orders. We do not anticipate that the increased telecom volume in the third quarter will repeat in the fourth quarter. Motive power continues to experience steady organic sales growth.

While Asia's reserve power business experienced good sales volume in the third quarter, year-to-date sales volume has been slightly lower than last year. This year, Chinese telecom spending is down slightly versus last year. However, EnerSys has been able to remain steady due to gains in market share. Asian motive power volume is up double-digits versus the first nine months of fiscal-year 2017, which is consistent with the pace of growth we envisioned and outlined at our 2017 Investor Day.

We remain committed to getting the Asia business to 10% operating earnings margin. Positive progress has been made due to the increase in motive power volume, but Asia still faces commodity pressures, manufacturing losses in India and reduced intercompany export volume.

To enhance regional profitability, we're making two changes. First, in India, we are repurposing our manufacturing footprint and have begun exporting product. We continue to look for acquisition and joint venture opportunities in India. Second, we will rebalance our global manufacturing footprint in order to increase export production in China.

In the U.S., our aerospace and defense business continues to surge in all segments, land vehicles, satellites, medical, munitions and missile systems. We're planning manufacturing capacity expansion in order to meet this growing demand. Aerospace and defense demand in the rest of the world is flat.

Please turn to slide 5. We continued to provide investors with metrics pertaining to key initiatives and cost assumptions, which we introduced at our Investor Day last February.

Please turn to slide 6. Similar to our last quarterly investor call, I want to review the progress we've made on some of the strategic growth initiatives, including, first, garnering higher market share with motive power maintenance-free batteries. These products are in the form of modular batteries, which are universally designed around our next-generation TPPL and lithium-ion chemistries.

Considerable progress has been made on the development of our new motive power lithium-ion modular products for electric forklift trucks. As previously mentioned, this product development has been accelerated. We have met with many of our influential motive power customers and discussed our new modular motive power lithium-ion batteries for Class I, II and III electric fork trucks. These customers are excited about the new product offerings. And based on these discussions, we're incorporating some of their specific application requests into our lithium-ion pack development.

We are currently on schedule to launch these new products in the fall of 2018 and are excited about these products – that these products will accelerate the conversion of internal combustion forklift trucks to electric. Following the product launch, we will be the leader in high-quality, high-performance lithium-ion batteries and chargers for the motive power markets.

Second, our next initiative is improving margins by increasing the premium product mix by selling more TPPL, IRONCLAD, modular chargers battery management systems and lithium batteries. One of the more recent contributors to the increase in our premium products as a percentage of total sales relates to our DataSafe TPPL products for UPS applications at datacenters and edge datacenters, cloud computing and co-location. This market has enormous growth potential due to the increase in Internet traffic and the expansion of datacenters for data privacy laws.

We introduced a new TPPL product for UPS applications as the premium solution for these new product power requirements. It has taken well over a year for several of our new products to be qualified and specified into UPS system hardware requirements. We believe TPPL will gain share in the UPS battery market to our benefit.

Our third initiative is capturing a higher market share in the transportation sector, specifically over-the-road trucking and premium automotive retail with our TPPL technology. Our global transportation business is approaching $100 million in annual sales, enjoying double-digit growth over the past year and setting the stage for future growth. In fiscal 2029 (sic) [2019], we believe this business should again experience similar sales growth. To meet this growing market opportunity during the second half of fiscal year 2019, we will install a new automated high-speed Thin Plate Pure Lead line or TPPL, which will expand our manufacturing capacity to better address the attractive growth opportunities and markets we serve.

Our TPPL product is deemed to be the best in the industry and we envision being a significantly larger player in this market. As a side note, on Tuesday of this week, the Wall Street Journal reported that trucking companies ordered the most long-haul trucks in nearly 12 years.

The final growth initiative I will mention today is the expansion of our sales and market share in aerospace and defense industry. The defense industry has shifted towards more non-flooded or maintenance-free batteries for tactical vehicles. This expands the markets we serve and has led to increased TPPL sales growth.

In addition, we made several strategic acquisitions over the past six years of lithium technologies that have significantly expanded our product offerings and made EnerSys an important battery supplier to defense and medical OEMs. This fiscal year, we estimate our lithium sales growth in A&D and Medical could approach 50%.

Our continuous improvement initiatives are accelerating. We reported another $6 million in net operational improvement savings due directly to our increased focus on process and value stream costs. Application of the EnerSys Operating System or EOS also continues to widen and is evidenced in the increase of discrete EOS improvement events and ideas. This fiscal year, we are on track to achieve approximately $25 million in cost savings and we estimate surpassing $30 million additional savings in fiscal year 2019.

Process improvement savings are being identified across our manufacturing operations and administration. For example, harmonization of key materials and increased competitive sourcing efforts will yield more than $10 million in savings this year. On the overhead side, we expect approximately $6 million in overhead cost reductions with significant reductions in energy and indirect materials and will remain focused on identifying more opportunities to reduce cost and increased efficiencies through our manufacturing process. During our fourth quarter, we expect to introduce Lean concepts to our fifth and sixth facilities.

In summary, we delivered a strong quarter despite the ongoing commodity cost headwinds and we'll continue to identify ways to improve our product offerings and manufacturing processes. I remain very excited about the future of EnerSys.

And now, I'll ask Mike to provide further information on our results and guidance.

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

Thanks, Dave. For those of you following along on our webcast, I'm starting with slide 7. Our third quarter net sales increased 17% over the prior year to $659 million due to an 8% increase in volume, a 4% increase from pricing and a 5% increase from currency. On a regional basis, our third quarter net sales in the Americas were up 12% to $353 million and Europe's net sales were up 21% to $225 million, while Asia increased 27% in the third quarter to $81 million compared to the prior year.

The Americas enjoyed a 9% increase in volume and a 3% from pricing. Europe had a 5% pricing increase, a 13% in positive currency and 3% increase in volume. In Asia, volume increased 17%, while pricing and currency increased 5% each.

On a product line basis, net sales for motive power were up 14% year-over-year at $332 million, while reserve power was up 21% to $327 million. Motive power had a 4% increase in price, a 5% volume increase and a 5% currency benefit. Reserve power generated 11% increase in volume and 5% increases in both price and foreign currency.

Please now refer to slide 8. On a sequential quarterly basis, third quarter net sales were up 7% compared to the second quarter of fiscal 2018, driven by a 6% increase in volume and a 1% price increase. The Americas region was up 3% and Europe was up 14%, while Asia was up 4%. On a product line basis, motive power was up 2%, while reserve power was up 12%.

Now, a few comments about our adjusted consolidated earnings performance. As you know, we utilized certain non-GAAP measures in analyzing our company's operating performance, specifically excluding highlighted items. Accordingly, my following comments concerning operating earnings and my later comments concerning diluted earnings per share exclude all highlighted items. Please refer to our company's Form 8-K, which includes our press release dated February 7, 2018, for details concerning these highlighted items.

Please now turn to slide 9. On a year-over-year basis, adjusted consolidated operating earnings in the third quarter increased approximately $2 million to $71 million with the operating margin down 150 basis points due to the dilutive impact on margins of rising commodity costs. The increase in operating earnings dollars from the prior year reflects higher volume and pricing, offset by $34 million in higher commodity costs. On a sequential basis, our third quarter operating earnings were up $4 million on higher volume. Operating expenses, when excluding highlighted items, were at 14.6% of sales for the third quarter compared to 15.3% in the prior year.

We expect fiscal 2018 full-year operating expenses to be in the comparable sub-15% range. Excluded from operating expenses recorded on a GAAP basis are net charges of $1.8 million primarily related to EMEA restructuring and ERP implementation costs as well as $77 million of net charges related to the recent Tax Act, which I will talk about shortly. Excluding those charges, our Americas business segment achieved an operating earnings percentage of 12.4%, which was 190 basis points below the 14.3% third quarter record of last year. Higher volume and pricing only partially offset the impact of higher lead costs.

On a sequential basis, the Americas third quarter decreased 70 basis points from the 13.1% margin posted in the second quarter due primarily to higher commodity costs. The Americas OE dollars were down approximately $1 million for both the prior year and sequential quarters.

Europe's (sic) [EMEA's] operating earnings percentage of 10.7% was down from last year's 11%, but higher than last quarter's 9.0%. OE dollars increased $3.5 million from the prior year and $6 million from the prior quarter in EMEA.

Operating earnings in our Asia business declined 220 basis points in the third quarter this year to 4.1% operating profit from a 6.3% income in the third quarter of last year and was also down from last quarter's 5.4%. Asia's OE dollars were down approximately $1 million for both the prior year and sequential quarters.

Please move to slide 10. As previously reflected on slide 9, our third quarter adjusted consolidated operating earnings of $71 million was an increase of 2% in comparison to the prior year. Our adjusted consolidated net earnings of $53.3 million increased 3% from the prior year or $1 million, but declined 110 basis points to 8.1% of sales. The $1 million increase reflects higher volume, pricing and cost savings and a lower tax rate offset by $34 million in higher commodity costs.

Our adjusted effective income tax rate of 18% for the third quarter was lower than the prior quarter of 22% and lower than the prior year's third quarter rate of 20%. Discrete tax items caused most of these variations with approximately $0.05 of EPS benefit related to a prior-year item. This tax rate was not impacted by the rate reduction of the recent tax legislation. I expect next quarter's effective rate to be approximately 20%.

EPS increased 6% to $1.25 on higher net earnings and lower shares outstanding. We expect our fourth fiscal quarter of 2018 to have approximately 42.5 million of weightage average shares outstanding with no benefit of any potential Q4 share buyback activity. As a reminder, we have not exercised the $100 million authorized by our board of directors in November.

Please now turn to slides 11 and 12. As usual, we have provided information on a year-to-date basis similar to that of our third quarter on prior pages. These two pages are for your reference and I don't intend to cover the year-to-date results.

Please now turn to slide 13. Now, some brief comments about our financial position and cash flow results. Our balance sheet remains very strong. We have $571 million on hand in cash and short-term investments as of December 31, 2017, with over $504 million undrawn from our credit lines around the world. We generated $130 million in cash from operations in our first three quarters of fiscal 2018. Our credit agreement leverage ratio is just above 1.1 times. Capital expenditures were $43 million in the first three quarters of fiscal 2018 compared to $36 million in fiscal 2017.

Please now turn to slide 14. While the new Tax Act had a $77 million negative impact on this quarter, we expect it to be favorable in future periods with our effective tax rate to be approximately 19% to 20% in future years. The table on slide 14 provides additional details of our $77 million charge as well as the current year and next year's expected net income and cash impacts. We have not made any final determination at this time as to how much of our cash we might repatriate in next fiscal year, but it will likely be between $250 million and $400 million.

We expect to generate adjusted diluted net earnings per share of between $1.20 and $1.24 in our fourth quarter fiscal 2018, which excludes an expected net charge of $0.05 per share for our restructuring programs and acquisition activities. We anticipate our gross profit rate in the fourth quarter to be approximately 25%.

In conclusion, we incurred $34 million in higher commodity cost on a year-over-year basis again in Q3. We recovered nearly 70% of that increase in pricing with the balance nearly recovered in higher volume.

Now, let me turn the call back to Dave.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Thanks, Mike. Kevin, we will now open the line for any questions.

Operator

Our first question comes from Noah Kaye with Oppenheimer.

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Noah Kaye
Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.

Thanks very much. Good morning, gentlemen. Dave, maybe I could start. You commented on maybe reconfiguring the Asia manufacturing footprint in both China and India. Could you maybe elaborate on that a little bit? What products are going to be manufactured really for which markets? How should we think about these decisions in context of your global supply chain?

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Okay. Good question. Let's take India and China separately. I think we've been pretty open on all of our calls about our frustration with the India telecom market and our ability to compete domestically there. It's been a real challenge. And so, we found an opportunity to use the factory there in an export setting because of motive power growth and support a motive power growth in the Asia region. So, we do have a big motive power factory in China, but they're real busy with what's going on in China. I think we said double-digit growth rates in motive in China. It's really booming over there.

And so, it frees up or it creates an opportunity for the rest of Asia, Southeast Asia, Australia to maybe take advantage of the Indian operation and to do that in a leaner fashion. And so, we've seen the business case and it looks promising for that. And in China, similar story. We configured and sized a lot of our factory footprint for the China telecom market. And as that changed since we went into that business, it became concentrated with one customer, China Tower. And our share at China Tower has actually grown, but their spending – they turned the spigot off and on just like the telcos do here in the States and we have to adjust accordingly.

And so, as we mentioned, we're seeing datacenter growth globally and so we're seeing some opportunities to rebalance the product portfolio to just take better advantage of our factories. I think that's always been one of our real strengths being a truly global company, arbitrage different FX rates, different lead rates, SMM versus LME. And so, the guys are just actively reshuffling the deck and we think that's going to help Asia's performance.

We still know we got to do something in India. It's too big a market to ignore and we had sort of an M&A opportunity get away from us, which was very frustrating. But that said, we just shake it off and we continue. We know that specifically the smart cities in India telco market is going to be a fantastic opportunity and we just have to figure out a new business plan on how to get in there and enjoy some of that. But in the meantime, we've got a job to do. We're committed to 10% return on sales in Asia and we're going to get there.

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Noah Kaye
Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.

Great. Thanks for that color. I guess the next that you talked about bringing forward the pace of taking lithium-ion and motive to market for Classes I through III with products introduced later this year. Maybe you could comment to – because you guys must be pretty far down the road at this point, how you think about the margin profile and return on capital for those products? Because I think the question that many people would ask is, just from both the margin and capital return perspective, how should we think about the company being relatively agnostic on chemistry at this point?

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Okay. Well, I think there was one or two calls ago that we said that we were going to purchase the lithium-ion cells for the time being and as such, the capitalization of that modular lithium program is pretty low. And our intention, Noah, is to leverage our Purcell business and supply chain to really get us kicked off in that business. So, that's why we think we can get off to a relatively good start.

Now, if that business grows, we might outgrow our current Purcell operations. The other thing with Purcell is we have to think about 5G is coming and so – but in the future, the sort of the model we have around here is nail it, then scale it. So, that's the focus right now. So, from a capitalization standpoint, on the modular lithium, that's fairly modest and we'll hardly get noticed.

Mike, you want to add any color?

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

Yeah, I would say with regard to the lithium pack development, we are incurring those costs now. We'll probably have for the year nearly $4 million of costs that will be charged through earnings to develop those packs that are not going to be capitalized. So, this is when we talk about some of the investment we made in our self, whether it's Digital Core, new product development, et cetera, we're spending that money right now. We're not doing it on cell production, but we are doing it on battery pack development.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

That's fantastic point and that's been one of the headwinds. And just give me one second here to plug my team, because it's been an amazingly difficult year given the commodity pressures. And then, at the same time, we tried to introduce my strategy, as a new CEO, with a lot of the transformation, the new product development, the drag of, as Mike just described, some of these initiatives that that's put on the P&L.

And at the same time, we've been flying or sailing into the commodity headwinds and, you know what, the team hasn't complained. It's been a tough year, but everyone sees that we're doing the right things and I couldn't be more proud. Even though we maybe a little off pace to some of our Investor Day projections because of these commodity pressures, in the long run, we're still extremely confident based on the feedback we're getting from very important customers that we're doing the right things and I couldn't be more proud of the team.

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Noah Kaye
Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.

Hey, thanks for that, David. And if I could just sneak one more in here, Mike, I think you commented to a possible range of $250 million to $400 million of cash repatriation. So, I think our question is just how you see potential uses of that cash? How does the M&A pipeline look domestically, clearly this makes a lot easier for you guys to do things in the home market?

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

Yeah and the M&A pipeline is active. There's probably $1 billion worth of transactions that we find both attractive and we believe we have a reasonable chance of succeeding with that transaction. So, there's plenty of things going on and it's been a little frustrating for us over the last five years. We really haven't had a major transaction in that period. And most of you probably recognize that in that timeframe, we've repurchased 7.5 million shares of our stock at the cost of about $460 million and then initiated a dividend as well.

So, when M&A wasn't right and we are very disciplined and selective and when those transactions were not available, we have deployed that money elsewhere. But the $250 million to $400 million, as you know, our initial inclination would be to invest that in ourselves and look for M&A activities.

Dave?

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Yeah. And just a point, we've talked about changing the scope and the scale and the size of some of the transactions we've been going after and that's on me. And unfortunately, the ZIP code or the size of the deals we've been after is sort of a sweet spot for a lot of the private equity money that's on the Street right now.

So, we've lost a couple deals. And frankly, we think maybe the valuations that we've seen people paying were just too rich for our blood. So, we're not going to do a deal. We've said this all along, we're not going to do a deal for a deal's sake. We're going to try to remain as disciplined as we can. And when they don't avail themselves, then we're going to do what we think is responsible for returning the capital, but that said, I don't want anybody to interpret the lack of deals of late as being us not trying or not putting effort into it. If anything, I think we've probably worked harder and redoubled our efforts, but there's just a lot of cash in these private equity funds right now, but that said, we're going to stay disciplined.

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Noah Kaye
Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.

Great. Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Yeah. Thank you, Noah.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Franzreb with Sidoti & Company.

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John E. Franzreb
Sidoti & Co. LLC

Good morning, guys.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Hey, John.

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John E. Franzreb
Sidoti & Co. LLC

Going back to your prepared remarks, I felt I heard you say something about the telecom business that the strength you saw in the third quarter will not repeat in the fourth quarter. Did I hear that correctly, because I kind of think historically the fourth quarter is one of your – probably your strongest quarter for that business?

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Yeah. We had a Bluebird in EMEA in Q3 in the telco area. You know that the telecom business is a rollercoaster and we don't expect that Bluebird to repeat in Q4, but it is a big account that's going to continue into next year. It's just a little bit lumpy. So, the comps for Q3 from a volume standpoint were probably favorable, the comps for Q4 for volume organics are probably a little less favorable and so we had a pretty good Q4 last year.

But that said, we're happy with the organic volume growth in the second half net-net and really whether it's telecom or transportation or datacenters, we just have a lot – especially A&D in the U.S., there's just a lot of exciting activity right now in the energy storage arena. So – but, yeah, you did hear us right, we had – but we just wanted to make sure that we set the right level of expectations in the fourth quarter. So, we did, but we did have a nice pickup on a telco account in Q3 for EMEA.

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John E. Franzreb
Sidoti & Co. LLC

Got it. And similarly, you said that you're seeing related telecommunication spending on infrastructure ahead of a potential 5G rollout. Can you just talk a little bit about what's they're spending on, how they're spending and if you're hearing any potential of pulling forward the 5G rollout to 2019 or 2018?

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Yeah. So, in the end, you have to remember, we all have to remember that the 5G network will be built on the backbone of what's already out there today. So, whether it's a cable company with a hybrid fiber coaxial network, whether it's a telco company with a fiber wireless network, what happens in 5G, all this new data that's going to enter will largely be based on the backbone.

So – and really, as I said in the prepared remarks, we think net neutrality and the ruling there has really changed some of the buying dynamics for the telco customers in the U.S. And so, we see sort of a renewed infrastructure investment activity level and a lot of that I'm sure that they are going to do in preparation for what they say is going to be an increase in data demand.

So, whether it's one of our traditional central office flooded batteries, whether it's some of our enclosures out of the Purcell business, whether it's some of our SBS Thin Plate Pure Lead batteries, we're seeing it on all fronts in the U.S. especially. And then, in terms of some of the discussions about nationalization or legislation, we just think whatever gets the network out there the fastest is what we're excited about and again, we feel very well prepared whether because of it's in our sweet spot with the existing stuff and then what Joern's got cooking on the smaller cell side stuff, we're super excited about 5G.

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John E. Franzreb
Sidoti & Co. LLC

Okay. Got it. And, Mike or Dave, on this one, on one of your slides, you presented the price increases by region and I kind of noticed that the Americas was 3% and Asia and EMEA was 5%. I guess there's just two questions here. One, can you realize better pricing overseas than you can here in the Americas? And two, when think about lead, it spiked to $1.22 or so a couple weeks ago. When do you feel that most in the P&L?

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

Okay, John. So you're right in this quarter that the Americas did not have the same pricing year-over-year improvement as EMEA. Keep in mind EMEA uses pass-through mechanisms, which actually give them in the near-term probably a quicker traction, albeit delayed. They're able to pick up faster than the Americas.

The Americas, the buyers or the consumers of our products have the ability to kind of, based on how they place their order patterns, to do a little bit better job of deferring it. So, with that, you see while we typically think Americas in the long-term does a better job and they do better, but in the short-term, with Europe and Asia as well having pass-throughs, those guys pick up a little faster than our Americas business, but in the long-term, Americas probably ultimately does a little bit better.

And the $1.22 lead pricing obviously, we did see lead got down into the sub-$1.15 yesterday. I haven't checked where it is today. But, for us, what we would like to see and where we've been if you're playing catch up and getting 70% recovery on an ever-increasing lead rising cost slope that makes it difficult. If lead will stabilize or even decline, that's when you see the pricing catch up as you're well aware.

So, if lead were to your premise in $1.22 range on an incurred basis for the remainder of this first calendar quarter, then you would see pressure beyond this fourth fiscal quarter for us in terms of margin. But we would also raise prices most likely in that scenario as well.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Yeah. And I think that what we've demonstrated so far this year is the market is responding. The pricing is coming up. And it's just really, as Mike stated and we said even in my prepared remarks, what we're looking for is stability and just a little bit of a breather. But until then, just be assured that we're doing everything we can from a pricing and a cost reduction standpoint. It's the nature of our business and we have to manage and we have to deal with it. But stability is key. Mike is right. It's going to be a little choppy region to region because of the degree of the pass-throughs. But when lead goes down, obviously it works the other direction. And so, when you assess this over the long haul, it's difficult to say which is right and which is wrong, but I am confident.

One of the things that we've picked up is one of the reasons that lead has gone up. It's not really a demand story. As you know, almost all lead consumption is driven by lead-acid batteries. And the biggest part of lead-acid batteries are car starter batteries. That's I think by a ratio of maybe 6 to 1, the amount of lead that's consumed in the car starting business versus industrial batteries. And that business, a big market like the U.S. or Western Europe, that bumps along just a couple percent, very low-single-digit type of growth rates. So, it's not really a demand story that's driving it. It's a lot of speculation. It's a lot of money that goes in and out of commodities.

And then, I think on the supply side, there has been some discussion and noise about the number of mines that are mining led at the time. And we are picking up some intelligence that we do see some mine activity we expect to increase in the coming years. So, we think that's going to take some of the pressure off, but largely what we need is stability. And I think what we've demonstrated is our ability to recover pricing. I think the market maturity is in place and, overall, we're still very confident.

And then, the other thing, Mike, on lead we always have to remember is the reason lead is high is because there's expectations that there's going to be good economic activity and we're seeing that. We're seeing it in a lot of region, a lot of markets. Business activity is picking up, transportation, new trucks. The WITS data this quarter is extraordinary and December was for – electric forklift trucks was a record.

It was the best month ever for electric forklift truck sales, which matches some of the economic activity. I think one thing we have to remember is there's probably truck lead times are half a year. Right now truck lead times are may be out 26 weeks. So, there is a phasing or a timing as to when that's going to hit our motive power order book. But again, I think lead is high, because most people are optimistic. Supply has been a little bit constrained and again the most of the economic activity looks very favorable for our business.

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John E. Franzreb
Sidoti & Co. LLC

That's a welcome news about new supply coming online in coming years. Thanks for that color, Dave. Appreciate it.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Okay.

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Drab with William Blair.

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Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Dave, you just mentioned the WITS data, can you run through Americas, Europe and EMEA, just give us those numbers?

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

I'll let Mike read it. The font – the print is too small for me. So, I'll let Mike do it.

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

All right, Brian, I usually go through the trailing three-month activity, but before I do that, I will stop to make a point that the month of December on a global basis was, I think, 83,172 units is an all-time record. Sort of going back to the trailing three-month average versus the prior year, globally, new truck orders are up 22% and now the Americas at 24% are kind of leading the way and Europe is at 15%.

And Asia, actually Asia remains strong at 36%, but it seems like a long time Europe has had higher rates of growth than the Americas. So, that is encouraging. Now, as you know, the new trucks are ordered and often our batteries get ordered 6 or 12 weeks later because of the lengthy lead times for these trucks to be delivered and – compared to our lead time. So, this is encouraging for us and would bode well for upcoming order intake and future sales.

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Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Okay. Great. And give the EMEA too, Mike.

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

Right, so just going through, this is the three-month average.

B
Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Yeah.

M
Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

The Americas is 24% growth year-over-year. Total Europe 15% – excuse me, total Europe with Africa 14% and Asia is 36% for a total worldwide of 22%.

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Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Yeah. Got it. Thanks. I just didn't know if you'd differentiate between Europe and EMEA just to fill up my spreadsheet. Thanks. And then, I guess you mentioned the big order with Bluebird in Europe and looking at the volume results across the regions, Americas and Asia were really outstanding at 3% – sorry, 3% in Europe, 9% in Americas, 17% in Asia. Can you talk a little bit about what's driving that strength in the Americas and Asia and I guess this WITS data explains a lot of it?

And then, the follow-on question is just could we expect these types of growth rates into the fourth quarter or could you actually be down sequentially in either segment motive or reserve in the fourth quarter given this strong growth that we're seeing right now?

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

I'd say based on the order book, the order activity, we're pretty optimistic about the volumes. The telco, the Bluebirds, they come and they go and I can't tell you when they're going to hit. That's just sort of the nature of the beast, but in general, I would say our telecom activity levels are markedly up, especially in the U.S. and the enclosure business is really seeing some great activity relative to quarters past. So, yeah, it's never going to be smooth one quarter on, one quarter off, but in general I would say the order activity, the order book, the business looks pretty solid right now.

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Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Okay. So, what about the typical seasonality from third to fourth quarter? You're always up in the fourth quarter. Is there any reason to expect something different from that?

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

Well, I think you'll see our fourth quarter probably have historical traditional rates of growth for us organically in the fourth quarter, but they won't be as strong as the 8% for the third quarter because of the fact that it had a stronger comparable prior year to start with for a base compared to the third quarter of this year.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

And shipping days factors in sometimes Q3 versus Q4. And just to reiterate, I would say in general outside of this one Bluebird, I would say that the reserve power in EMEA continues to be fairly flat. It's not been our most exciting region and we still have not seen a return to investment in the Middle East that we had enjoyed a few years ago. So, the oil-driven economies really – there is a lot of political unrest in those regions. We – just we haven't seen the orders out of Egypt or Tunisia, Morocco, places like that, that we were enjoying a few years ago, but that would certainly help.

And then, the other thing to remember about EMEA, I have to remind everybody, is that big accounts like Ericsson, Nokia, Alcatel, they sell all over the world and those guys, they've been fighting Huawei and ZTE pretty hard. So, as they lose share to Huawei and ZTE, we feel that hardest in our European P&L. So, that's been part of the frustration we've had. And we just have to do a better job with the Chinese OEMs in the telco sector and that's a keen area of focus for us. But – so I just don't want to – we see a lot of great activity in certain parts, but Europe reserve isn't one of them.

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Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Got it. Dave, you mentioned the days issue, it has been an issue in the past. So, are there any days issues to think about specifically for the fourth quarter?

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

I'm just trying to give Mike a chance to say Gregorian calendar, because he was saying that...

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Michael J. Schmidtlein
EnerSys

I love to say that. Actually, yeah, this fourth quarter has for us 62 shipping days versus last year's 63. And in the third quarter, you had the inverse. We had 1 more day in this year's third quarter than we did a year ago. So, the kind of inverse is there, so that that's a net 2-day difference in terms of year-over-year comparison.

D
David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Okay.

B
Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Got it. Thank you. And then, just the last question maybe, Dave, you have this initiative in the truck market that I think is one of the – seems to be one of the most promising here over the next few years. At the time of the Analyst Day, we had two – you just announced your second major win, can you just give an update there, it seems like still one of the great opportunities in front of you?

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Yeah, it is, it's really exciting, I mean it's not – and beyond the truck business now, what we're finding is that there is a niche market within the automotive starting, lighting and ignition now. I'm not saying that we're going broad and deep in automotive. I don't want to deliver that message, but what we do see a niche market in that automotive sector that's also enjoying and seeing the value of our Thin Plate Pure Lead technology. And so, just as much as the truck business has been a nice growth engine for us, we're seeing a lot of interest in the premium automotive sector as well.

I think one of the issues there we have to manage is supply and constraints in the factory. That's one of the things we're trying to manage and we've noted that. We really aren't in a position to take a huge share there in any way until we do something on the supply side and that's one of the key areas of focus for us later this year. It's the new high speed line operates in an entirely different pace versus anything we've ever done before.

So, automation and getting that up and running and secure is one of the key initiatives that's going to help us drive deeper share. And again, just a little bite of that monster market is a meal for us.

B
Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Right.

D
David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

So, that's real exciting for us and going well.

B
Brian P. Drab
William Blair & Co. LLC

Great. Thanks for that update and thanks for taking my questions.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

Thank you.

Operator

I am not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to David Shaffer for closing remarks.

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David M. Shaffer
EnerSys

All right. Well, I want to thank everyone for taking time to attend our call and if you get a chance to take a look at the Eagles' parade there, on the TV at 11:00. Take care. Bye-bye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.