Brinker International Inc
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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q1 F’ 2020 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mika Ware. Ma’am, the floor is yours.
Thank you, Paul, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Earnings Call for Brinker International’s First Quarter of Fiscal Year 2020. With me on today’s call are Wyman Roberts, Chief Executive Officer and President; and Joe Taylor, Chief Financial Officer.
Results for the quarter were released earlier this morning and are available on our website at brinker.com. As usual Wyman and Joe will first make prepared comments related to our operating performance and strategic initiatives. We will then open the call for your questions.
Before beginning our comments, it is my job to remind everyone of our safe harbor regarding forward-looking statements. During our call, management may discuss certain items which are not based entirely on historical facts. Any such items should be considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from those anticipated. Such risks and uncertainties include factors more completely described in this morning’s press release and the company’s filings with the SEC.
And of course, on the call, we may refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures that management uses in its review of the business and believes will provide insight into the company’s ongoing operations.
And with that said, I will turn the call over to Wyman.
All right, thanks Mika. Hey, good morning everyone and thank you for joining us. Fiscal 2020 is off to a solid start for Brinker, right in line with our expectations for the year. Total revenues for the quarter were $786 million a year-over-year increase of 4.3%. Comp sales were positive 2.3%, with adjusted net earnings per share of $0.41.
These results were primarily driven by another quarter of differentiated execution in Chili’s, with comp sales of 2.9% marking our sixth consecutive quarter of positive comps. So we’re well into our lap. We’ve seen these trends continue into October. And we’re pleased with our performance across the country and we drove particularly strong regional performance in the critical markets of California, Texas and New England.
From a traffic perspective, we ended the quarter flat. We were relatively soft early in the quarter like the rest of the industry, but we saw sequential improvements throughout the quarter and ended September with positive traffic. And during the quarter we drove more than a 300 basis points GAAP to the category in both sales and traffic, our fifth consecutive sales beat and seventh consecutive traffic beat.
And as we head into our higher volume quarters, we’re more than confident that we have plenty of momentum to deliver the sale and earnings growth we’ve outlined for the year. The performance we’re delivering today is a direct result of the relentless focus on the strategy we laid out for you nearly two years ago, to deliver best-in-class operational execution, to leverage our scale, to offer compelling everyday value and to leverage our digital expertise, to offer convenience the way our guests wanted, primarily through takeout and delivery.
Best-in-class as an operations team, we’re more aligned ever around our core operating systems and our focus set of metrics that pinpoint where we’re performing well and reveal our opportunities. I feel good about the progress we’ve made, as we watch guest metrics rise to an all time high again. And I feel even better about the path forward, because it’s clear there’s room to take operations from a good place to a great place.
As our operational playbook remains focused and consistent, the team now knows how to win and all time highs are no longer good enough. They’re ready to raise their own bar and see just how far they can take our guest satisfaction. We’re also raising the bar on our ability to deliver new quality food with global flavor profiles while maintaining our commitment to keep our operations simple. For example, we just rolled out a new improved chicken product.
We’re now pounding chicken breasts in-house and hand-breading them to order, which creates a much higher quality product. And we’re leveraging this on all our menu items that feature a crispy chicken breast. And we introduced an awesome new chicken sandwich that we call Chicky Chicky Bleu. So, we didn’t do a broad menu launch that adds complexity for operators and confusion for guests. Instead, we upgraded the quality of a key product and introduced one bold new menu item to keep consumers engaged and drive frequency.
We’ll continue to leverage this balanced innovation strategy that brings new news and improves the quality of our food at a pace our operators can execute with excellence. But the primary driver of our first quarter results came from our strategies to offer convenience the way our guests wanted and our ability to leverage the strength of our technology platforms to meet their expectations.
First quarter marked our eighth consecutive quarter of positive takeout growth and we continue to see upside for this segment of the business. Our delivery business also achieved a tremendous start during the first quarter, which is one channel turned on. We’re bringing to bear the digital expertise we’ve been methodically building over the past couple of years and it’s a significant differentiator for us. Currently two-thirds of our take – off our off-premise sales are coming through digital channels, which makes it operationally more efficient and provides data for future marketing efforts.
Delivery is the powerful channel for our category, the players who do it right, open the door to a drastically larger number of deal experiences and greater guest frequency. At this point, all of our metrics say we’re performing really well as a delivery option. We’re executing at a high-level and the breadth of our menu mix and strong value positioning make Chili’s a compelling delivery choice and we’re just getting started.
We’re working hard to optimize profitability through alternative packaging and new staffing models, while we test additional initiatives to leverage the long runway for growth we see in this segment.
Around the world, our partners continue to grow the Chili’s brand. They opened 11 Chili’s restaurants during the first quarter and we see these growth trends continuing. The ongoing demand for the Chili’s brand internationally is a great testament to the belief our partners have in the strength of the brand as well as the business.
And here at home, we closed our acquisition of 116 restaurants in the Midwest and we’re excited to welcome these team members and their communities into the Brinker family. We’ve deployed a strong leadership support team for these restaurants to accelerate their transitioning into our system and leverage the upside of the existing team. We feel good about the earnings potential of these additional restaurants add to our business.
I’m just as confident today, if not more so than when I was, when I introduced our strategy to you nearly two years ago. We continue to deliver consistent results and outperforming the industry. We’ve created a solid foundation that can withstand this challenging environment and we’ve got a clear line of sight to ongoing returns for our shareholders.
And now, I’ll turn the call over to Joe to give you more details. Joe?
Hey, thanks Wyman and good morning everyone. Let me start my quarterly overview with a couple of key insights underlying the success of our results reported this morning. First, the solid performance of our first quarter positions us very well as we move through the balance of the fiscal year to deliver the goals we outlined during our last call. And second at Chili’s sales and traffic momentum built through the quarter, as our operators continue to execute at a level that is differentiating the brand in the eyes of the guests, providing the value and dining experiences warranting their time and dollars.
This day-over-day execution is growing sales effectively managing the middle of the P&L and generating meaningful cash flows in support of our investments and capital allocation strategies. This reported in this morning’s press release, first quarter adjusted earnings per share came in at $0.41 in line with our expectations for the quarter. As we previously indicated, the quarter was impacted by incremental stock comp expense when compared to prior year.
A certain executives are now retirement eligible under our plans. As such, we are required to take the total expense for these grants made to these executives immediately, instead of over the vesting period. Our stock-based grants are made in the first quarter every year. This incremental expense of $3.5 million negatively impacted EPS by $0.08 for the quarter, but we’ll subsequently reduce the year-over-year impact of this expense in our remaining quarters.
At the top of the P&L, total revenues in the first quarter were $786 million, a 4.3% increase versus the prior year. This was driven by comp sales growth for Brinker of 2.3% and the additional capacity from the restaurants acquired from our former franchise partner in early September. While these Midwest region restaurants only impacted the last three weeks of the quarter, this starts a nice level of capacity growth that will continue the rest of the fiscal year.
We expect these newly owned restaurants will record approximately $250 million of company sales in the current fiscal year. Off-premise sales growth was the primary driver of overall comp sales performance with a year-over-year growth rates in excess of 25%. Off-premise sales both to-go and delivery now represent approximately 15% of total sales. At the brand level, Chili’s continued at the top line momentum, reporting quarterly net comp sales of 2.9%, lapping a solid positive 2% in the prior year and gapping the casual dining industry by close to 4%. Traffic was flat for the quarter, which is positive to the industry by over 300 basis points. From a regional perspective, the brand was strong across the country and gaps the casual dining segment in every region.
Maggiano’s first quarter results were below our expectations with net comp sales of negative 1.8%. The brand utilized fewer marketing resources in this quarter to offset industry sales softness and had a greater short-term impact from the migration to our exclusive delivery contract with DoorDash.
Our restaurant operating margin for the quarter was 11%, in line with our quarterly and full year expectations. Within the operating margin performance, cost to sales experienced a year-over-year net inflation of approximately 30 basis points, produce was the main driver of the increase, primarily due to near-term increases in avocados and tomatoes. Overall, the commodity market is behaving as expected with lower levels of inflation working into the system. That being said, we’ve established higher levels of commodity contracting to protect against volatility for key products.
We are now 95% contracted across our commodity basket for the current quarter and 78% contracted through the end of the fiscal year. As it relates to various proteins, we are 86% contracted for the remainder of the fiscal year. Restaurant labor was flat year-over-year driven by sales leverage and lower employee health costs. Wage rates continue as the primary inflationary headwind in the manageable 3.5% range for the quarter.
Improved year-over-year operating performance also increased our Chili’s manager bonus payout an incremental $0.04 quarterly EPS costs, we are pleased to incur. Restaurant expenses for the quarter were favorable 20 basis points compared to the prior year, so we have started to see the benefits of leverage from top line growth. Increased rent from our sale leaseback transaction, higher to-go packaging costs and third-party delivery fees were offset by leverage and the effective management of other expense categories.
Now that the Midwest franchise acquisition is complete, our restaurant operating margin will benefit from the additional sales leverage provided by these restaurants over the course of our three remaining quarters. As I mentioned earlier, the quarter demonstrated the cast generating capabilities of the brand with good year-over-year growth in our key cash flow metrics.
Operating cash flow for the quarter was almost $87 million, while free cash flow grew significantly to just over $66 million, meaningfully strengthening our ability to deliver our forecasted annual level of free cash flow. Adjusted leverage at quarter end increased approximately 20 basis points, due to the incremental debt associated with the closing of the franchise acquisition. Adjusted leverage total of 4.15 times, which is expected to be the high point for the year. We plan to reduce our adjusted debt metric from operational cash flows as we move through the year, with the year end leverage target of 4.0 times.
Effective this quarter, we adopted ASC 842, the new lease accounting standard. As a result, we now recognize operating leases on the balance sheet, based on the present value of lease payments over the lease term. You can find more details regarding this accounting change in this morning’s press release and in the soon to be filed 10-Q. Overall, the impact of the lease accounting standard on our results of operations and cash flows is not significant.
In summary, I’m very pleased with the start to our fiscal year and our continued focus on delivering quality, value and convenience for our guests. As we move through the year, these efforts should differentiate our brand’s performance with the expectation of continued market share gains, positive top line growth, effective P&L management and achievements of our goals for the year.
With our comments are now complete, let’s open the call for your questions. Paul, I’m going to turn it back over to you to facilitate.
Certainly. [Operator Instructions] And the first question is coming from Jeff Farmer, [Gordon Haskett]. Jeff, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and pose your question.
Yes. Gordon Haskett. Earlier in the call you commented that trends continued in October, was just curious if you can provide some incremental detail on that?
Hey, Jeff. Yes, I mean, no more detail than that. We tend to not do a whole lot in quarter out as you know, but the trends that we laid out in the first quarter are pretty much in line with what we’re experiencing here in October. That’s about as deep as we’re going to go. So – but again, off to a good start in the second quarter.
Yes. One more question then. So I appreciate that it’s only been a month since delivery functionality went live in the Chili’s mobile app. But what percent of your delivery sales mix is coming from the Chili’s app and website versus the DoorDash marketplace? And where do you think that can trend in coming quarters?
Yes, we’re probably not going to give that level of detail. It’s early, as you said, Jeff on kind of all of our kind of convenience initiatives as we call them, whether they’re to-go, delivery, partners and then independent – the stuff we’re doing on our own. So I think we’re going to kind of play that out here over the next little while, we’ll probably give you more insight as we get past some of the testing stages and get a better sense for what’s probably more ongoing. But we’re very pleased with the overall results we’ve experienced both with third-party, as well as our own takeout and delivery initiatives today and we’re really excited about what we’ve got to come.
All right. Thank you.
Thanks, Jeff.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Stephen Anderson, [Maxim Group]. Stephen, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and pose your question.
Yes, with Maxim Group. I wanted to follow-up on your comments on the food commodity costs now. In the last few quarters, we’ve talked about the potential impact from the swine flu coming out of China. Just want to see, if you have a additional follow-up comments from that and whether you change your overall commodity cost outlook?
No. Hey, good morning Stephen, and we haven’t changed anything from a commodity outlook standpoint. Again, as we indicated before, and we continue to believe we’ll see a low level, put it in the 1%, 2% range kind of commodity inflation as we move throughout the year. Frankly, most of that is based more on the low points, if our commodity pricing was coming off the last three years than it is on ASF, we’re watching that very closely. As I indicated, we’ve taken – we’re ahead of where we typically are at this point from a contracting standpoint, particularly as it relates to our proteins.
We want to make sure to every extent we can that we’re eliminating potential volatility from the equation. So I’m erring on that side, obviously, there are couple segments of the complex, ground beef being one of them that is not a long-term contraction of market. But we’re very comfortable still with what we’re seeing in those areas too. So pretty much right on course with what we expected it to be and incrementally protected on the downside if that would develop.
Okay. Thank you. And I have a follow-up, afterwards. I’ll be on the queue.
Okay.
Thank you. The next question is coming from Brian Vaccaro, [Raymond James]. Brian, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and pose your question.
Thanks, and good morning, Raymond James. Just on the commodity contract. Joe, I appreciate the color you gave through the end of fiscal 2020. Just curious have you made any progress or tried extend even further some of those contracts, particularly around the proteins maybe to cover you into the back half of calendar 2020 at this point?
Yes. Without getting into great detail, we have – we are looking at some of those term contracts and we have taken some steps as it relates, particularly to some of the proteins to go out through the well into calendar F2020 and some of those to the course of the end of calendar of 2020. So, again, it’s an environment that we want to maintain, as certainty as we can for our operators. So yes, we’re looking at that and we’ll continue to look at that.
Okay. And then Wyman, you alluded to some opportunities that you saw to improve operations further. Could you elaborate on that? And then also just give an update on the timing of the rolling of the handhelds or just any other key operations initiatives you see in fiscal 2020?
Hey, Brian. Well, I mean, I think – what I was referring to is just as we locked down the systems that the operators are focused on and really stay focused on some of the fundamentals, it just allows us to kind of pinpoint, if you will, where there are challenges both from the system side but also from an operations side and that’s where we put our energy and our support and we’re seeing tremendous results, really our operators have done an amazing job delivering a better guest experience.
As I mentioned, our guest satisfaction levels are not just creeping over all-time highs, they’re really significantly better than we’ve ever seen and that bodes well we know for future visitation. So that’s kind of what I was referencing when I talked about the opportunity to get operations even better than they’re doing today, which is really a nice job.
With regard to the initiatives, some of that we laid out probably more at the conference or at the Analyst Day. We’re moving forward on a couple of those technology fronts, new table top devices are looking to be rolled out here third quarter, the handhelds are continuing to evolve. We’ll have more to share on that probably in the third and fourth quarter, but we feel good about the progress we’re making on the technology front across a lot of different initiatives. Those two examples, as well as the leverage on our CRM, as well as the work we’re doing to leverage digital in the convenience avenues.
Okay. And then just two on the model real quick. Joe, that shift in the timing of stock-based comp, does that show up in an outsized way in any specific quarter rest of fiscal 2020 or will that be layered in through the next few quarters?
No. The only outsize is this quarter in the G&A side of the equation. So yes, you make up for it over the life of the rest of those grants, which are kind of multi-year and so you don’t see it in an outsize, but it’s a slight benefit to the second, third and fourth quarters.
Okay. And then as it relates to depreciation D&A line for the year, there’s quite a wide range of estimates that seems on the street. Would you be willing to tighten that up just to make sure we’re on the same page of what’s embedded in your fiscal 2020 guidance on D&N? Thank you.
Yes. And I think right now we’re sticking with the guidance that we provided for you on that regard, obviously we’re layering in, the Midwest region is part of that year-over-year delta, plus some of the normal changes we’re seeing due to our development and reimage programs and things of that nature. So not a lot of incremental specificity there, but I do expect it to be up. Probably, I would expect it to be, yes, probably in the high-single millions in that $5 million to $8 million range as we kind of move throughout the year.
All right. That’s helpful. Thank you.
Thanks.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Gregory Francfort, [Bank of America]. Gregory, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and pose your question.
Hey, it’s Greg Francfort for Bank of America. Maybe just two questions, the first for Wyman, and actually maybe both for Wyman. But just on guest metrics, you alluded to kind of earlier in the prepared remarks kind of you’re seeing a stronger performance. Can you maybe flush out a little bit about what you’re seeing, what you’re pointing to there? And then just on delivery, I know you guys don’t want to get into a lot of the details on mix or percent of sales. But can you talk about how customers are using delivery right now and kind of in early learnings from that launch and if there’s any daypart mix or sort of focus? And how customers are using the Chili’s brand for delivery right now? Thanks.
Sure. Hey, Greg. Well, obviously we look at a lot of different metrics, but we’re very focused with our operators on several key in-restaurant metrics that we get from our guests. And we have a real robust survey size with almost 20% of our guests giving us feedback every day. So – and the movement is across the board, it’s on food, it’s on service, it’s on the number of guests that are experiencing any kind of a difficulty, pretty broad-based improvement. Our value scores are reaching or have reached all-time highs as well, so we feel really good about the experiences we’re getting and the value they see in that experience.
We also focus on our external metrics, we have some proprietary tracking that we do relative to the industry, but we also look at a social scores and what the social environment is kind of saying about us. And those metrics have also moved up nicely in conjunction with what we’re seeing in restaurants. So kind of track at several different ways in every way we look at it, we feel pretty good about the trajectory that the operations team has been delivering over the last year and then continue to move on.
With regard to how delivery is being used, it’s pretty broad-based, we’re seeing it across the country, some talks are little bit more as you would expect than others, especially with an exclusive partnership. But the usage during the dayparts, primarily dinner, but still strong at lunch. And again, we see opportunities in – what we’re excited about now is, we’re just starting this journey, right? So, and with all the data that we have and our partner has and how we share it and what we can do with that to make this business grow and be more effective at really marketing to the delivery consumer, we’re just excited about what we can do as we go forward. Hope that covers what you were looking for.
Yes. Great. Thank you.
All right, Greg,
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Chris O’Cull, [Stifel Nicolaus]. Chris, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and pose your question.
Thanks. It’s Stifel. Wyman, the consolidated comp sales for the quarter were lower than the full year guided range. So are you still comfortable with that range and what opportunities do you see to improve Maggiano’s performance, given the industry appears to remain weak?
Yes, we’re in the ballpark at kind of the topper end – top end of our guidance in terms of comp sales. So we feel comfortable with the guidance we’ve given. I’m not sure at close to 3% of Chili’s, we’re very comfortable that we’ve got the guidance number in hand. With regard to Maggiano’s, it was a little tougher quarter, there was some headwinds as Joe mentioned, and we went from multiple third-party delivers at Maggiano’s and the business that has been developed for really many years to just the single partner. They took a little bit of – there was some headwind there for them that we’re quickly kind of moving through with our partner.
And that was probably one of the biggest things that they’re challenged with. In Maggiano’s, it’s all about the holiday season, it’s all about what happens here in this outsized quarter coming and they feel good about the work they’re doing to drive traffic within their restaurants by becoming more focused on the business on the weekend and being especially efficient, really pushing their catering and their banquet business out even more aggressively as they market that into their communities. So there’s a lot of things going on that are going to drive the business into the critical holiday season for them.
And then we’ve got some longer-term things that we’re doing to help the brand kind of stay fresh and compete in really a pretty challenging upscale casual environment. So overall, we feel good about the work that’s going on at Maggiano’s, a little tougher quarter, but I feel pretty good about what they’re walking into as they head towards the holidays.
Yes, Chris and again – Chris and I’d just add a little context on your question about the comp. One, yes, we’re very comfortable with where the comp has set us up for the rest of the year. We don’t dwell on this, but for context, I give it to you. I mean, there was a 20 basis point impact at the Brinker level from weather also. So again, we performed very well throughout the quarter, despite that, but just to give you some context as to how that was impacted.
Yes. And it was actually a little bit harder hit and Maggiano’s.
At Maggiano’s, right.
Yes. They took a little bit of a bigger hit on the weather front just based on their locations.
Just to make sure I’m clear, the guidance for comps of 1.75% to 2.5%, that’s for Chili’s only, not for the consolidated group?
No, that’s the Brinker forecast.
Yes.
Okay. And then Wyman, I apologize if I missed this. But now that Chili’s digital platform is offering delivery, when do you expect to start advertising the service more aggressively?
Well, we’re already out there, Chris, talking about the delivery on our platform both in national advertising, as well as through the various digital channels that we use. So we’re out there today.
Are you seeing mixed shift or stronger performance on the digital platform at Chili’s, than you are from the – I mean, is the mix in line with what you were hoping for in terms of the usage as a digital platform at Chili’s?
Yes. Again, we’re probably going to not give too detailed on all the specifics. But we’re pleased with what’s going on within both the third-party aspect of delivery, as well as what we call white label our own – on our own website.
Okay. And then just lastly, Joe, I know there are several items that affected compatibility during the quarter, and I know you provided some details on that. But could you remind us what the incremental sale leaseback impact was for the quarter?
Yes. Last year we took a gain, a net gain minus transaction costs of a little over $13 million in the first quarter. If you’re looking at the reported numbers, obviously, we dialed that out from an adjusted standpoint. That’s the biggest one, then you have obviously what I talked about from a stock comp standpoint and you have incremental rent from the sale leaseback of about $4 million. So this is the last quarter that you get that year-over-year lap of the incremental rent and it impacted us about $4 million from that specific item this year.
Perfect. Thanks guys.
All right. Thanks, Chris.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from David Palmer, [Evercore ISI]. David, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and pose your question.
Thanks. Evercore ISI. A question on the comps, what – company seems to a sales trend, they were much higher than the franchise. You mentioned a few regions that were stronger. Was it because of that and the weather you mentioned or is there other factors that we should think about that created that gap?
Yes. There is a couple of things, obviously there is regionality. The pickup on delivery isn’t the same across every market and where people are at in the process isn’t the same. The leverage on our CRM, our Chili’s Rewards program doesn’t kind of play out equally, if you will, in every market and with every franchise partner. So there are different variables that come into play. Over time, if you kind of study it, you see, we tend to kind of – we have a quarter here or there where the franchise community is a little further out, but over time it tends to kind of even out and we all tend to move into the same space. There may be a little more volatile now that we’ve reduced the size of our franchise world.
Yes. And Joe, I wanted to ask you on the initial guidance you gave for fiscal 2020 that you guys did better than that on the labor side and slightly worse on the cog side. Are the restaurant level margin guidance ranges still intact or are there things that might change the trend from here, delivery launch cost, the ERJ acquisition? I’m just trying to think about how things will play out from here. Thanks.
Yes. I think the guidance we provided for restaurant operating margin is still very much intact. We guided flat to down 20, and I think we’re down 10 year-over-year in this quarter. So I mean, right in line with that, we have the benefits coming from the top line leverage of the acquisition that will really now start to play into was marginal in the first quarter because there’s only a couple of weeks it starts to play at a much heavier rate. I think some of the commodity inflation we saw this last quarter can be more episodic, anytime you’re dealing with produce, you get a little more volatility there.
So you can’t – you shouldn’t assume that’s a run rate kind of going forward. So we’re comfortable really across all of those lines from the way the operators are managing the middle of the P&L, where we see exposures within the commodity market that we’ve locked down from a contracting standpoint and the continued top line growth we’re expecting and the leverage ability it brings. So it’s comfortable, there’s always going to be puts and takes throughout the middle of that P&L, but we have a great line of sight on how to manage those puts and takes as we go forward.
Thank you.
Thanks, David.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Will Slabaugh, [Stephens]. Will, please announce your affiliation and pose your question.
With Stephens. Thanks guys. I had a question on the three for $10, waiting to hear a lot on the call about the platform, but I’m assuming it’s still mixing well. So I was wondering if you would comment about that versus what you said or sorry, what you had been seeing previously and how you think menu innovation going forward is going to work into that this year?
Hey, Will, great question. Three for $10 is absolutely doing what it’s been targeted to do and continuing to perform very well. Consistent, in terms of mix as we’ve seen, we’ve mentioned before, it’s not a current offer in delivery, third-party delivery. So that’s a kind of an interesting twist, if you will to how we market and leverage three for $10 in the various channels.
With regard to innovation, again, we haven’t done a whole lot from an innovation perspective over the last couple of quarters, but that doesn’t mean we haven’t been working hard at the culinary team and the marketing team have done a great job, we’re in tests with some very exciting ideas that will come forward here in the back half of the year, that will – that could play on three for $10 could be standalone, but we see a real opportunity in the future to come back and leverage innovation in a more aggressive way. Right now, we’re obviously little more focused on some of the convenience aspects of driving the business, but we’ll be layering in some innovation in the near future.
Hey, and Will, let me jump on top of that also with pointing out one of the things I think you saw there in the release was the 60 basis points positive mix and I think that’s indicative now. We’ve talked about this, now we’re starting to realize that we’re getting, we’re now through the lap of really the aggressive introduction of three for $10 that had the mix implications last year. And so now that you’re more into a steady state, great foundation and results coming out of three for $10. But now you can start to see the work we’re doing around other opportunities within the mix category that can give us that, as we’ve always thought that slight benefit that we look for in a quarter-over-quarter basis.
So this last year – this last quarter some nice PPA results coming out of ad-ons, coming out of apps, coming out of the alcohol program. So those are the kinds of things that I think you’ll see more front and center now that we’re into kind of a run rate as it relates to three for $10.
Got it. That’s helpful. And then I had a question on the margins, Joe. It looks like, I know you had some moving pieces going on in the quarter, but it looked like only about 10 basis points, I should call it roughly flattish year-over-year. Is that how you would look at that? And is it, I guess the margin side of things trending along about how you thought it would start the year?
Yes. And again, assuming restaurant operating margin, yes, very much. So that 10 basis point difference, again, there is some episodic things in cogs, but really across that line, they’re marched pretty much how we would expect to see it go.
Good to hear. Thanks guys.
All right. Thanks, Will.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from John Ivankoe, [JP Morgan]. John, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and pose your question.
Hi, thank you. With JP Morgan. I wanted to get back to some of the comp commentary. Wyman, you were I think unusually specific kind of talking about the September quarter in terms of how things trended with July being your week month, September actually ending with positive traffic, which is important obviously. And it sounded like – and I don’t want to put words in your mouth. Did that positive traffic continue in October? Do you view the second quarter a more difficult comparison than the first, which just looking at simple math, it kind of would? And when we kind of think about the second quarter, you had comparisons in the different moving pieces that you have. Should we expect just a nominal result similar to the first quarter or my comparisons for any number of reasons lead that to be a little bit lower or higher?
Hi John. Well, I don’t know if I’ll get as detailed as that, but I will just say yes, we wanted to give a little more color into the first quarter just because of some of the industry trends and some of the concerns I think people were having as they kind of watched some of the broader industry metrics. And we kind of experienced some of that – those same trends obviously from a much higher position as we outperformed the category. But we did end in solid place with positive traffic and strong sales and we continue to see positive traffic and solid sales in October. So that’s the – that was the message we wanted to share there.
With regard to the second quarter, we don’t see a whole lot of additional headwind, this was kind of the question that was posed to us over several quarters ago was, well, what’s going to happen when you lap, but we’ve lapped. And now we’re pretty much into that lap and we don’t anticipate significant changes in our ability to continue to perform in the rate we performed in the first quarter. There are some strange things that happened in the quarter with regard to timing of holidays, but they’re all within the quarter. So we’ll see some things on our own month-to-month, but I think within the quarter it should be relatively clean.
Okay. So in other words, nothing that really jumps out to you in November and December. And so the comparisons, even if they look optically harder, they’re not necessarily optically harder.
Not as we look at it.
Okay. All right. That’s important. And then secondly, obviously there was a tremendous amount of attention at the Analyst Day focused on DoorDash, you guys kind of remaining in the carousel, maybe even getting some advertising from them in terms of – they try to build out their own platform, if you could just remind me, what the status of that is and if there’s anything, what’s upcoming from their end, that could drive the Chili’s brand going forward.
Yes. Again, we’ll get to too specific, but I’ll just say the partnership is one we are very pleased with, it’s in early stage, but we like the work that’s being done on their side to support the brand and we’re comfortable with that, both brands actually and they’re working hard now. We were testing with DoorDash primarily with Chili’s and the integration with Chili’s was done pretty much the day we went live.
Maggiano’s has just now integrated their system into the DoorDash system, so it’s been a little bit of a lag there and they’ve done a nice job partnering with us to get the technology fixes in place to get Maggiano’s to the same place.
And now we continue to partner with them on various different marketing aspects and initiatives as we move forward. So we’ll continue to leverage the partnership both to drive our business as well as do what we can to help support the DoorDash.
Thank you.
Thanks John. Good to see you.
Thank you. The next question is coming from Nicole Miller. Nicole, [Piper Jaffray] your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and post your question.
Piper Jaffray, thank you and good morning. I want to go back to one of your earlier comments around packaging, I thought that was interesting. If we could circle back to the ability to drive the cost down for delivery in terms of packaging, what does that look like? And then how about the ability to even improve just delivery overall in terms of the way the food is prepared or delivered in terms of hot and the way it looks, et cetera.
Hey, Nicole. Yes, great, great catch there. We did want to mention that, again, this is kind of a new – we’ve been doing takeout forever, but as the business becomes a bigger and bigger part of our business, these are aspects of it that we don’t – we haven’t necessarily put as much energy and focus on as you would if you were in QSR.
But now we’re looking much more closely at, How do we package? What is the packaging, How effective is the packaging? What are the costs of the packaging? How do we leverage that across the business? And again, we are just getting smarter as we get more experienced with this business. And it’s on both fronts, on the cost side as well as on the – on how well we deliver, what’s exactly happening with the guest experience. All of our metrics today say we’re doing fine, but we always want to do better. And so we’re consistently looking at where are the opportunities to deliver a better guest experience and to do it for a lower cost.
How far out, just out of curiosity, is that opportunity? I mean, is this something we get a lot ordered personally if we keep up with that, are we going to see that in the next quarter or is it the end of the fiscal year, like how soon can you bring that packaging element to market?
Yes, I think you know, there’s obviously we’re a big company that has some lead times associated with making change. But we pride ourselves on doing things relatively quickly and so we anticipate by the second half, we’ll be able to put some changes in place. Some of them I don’t think you’ll even notice as a consumer, but they may have some efficiency place or us, just depending on how we buy it and how we – some of the things we do in house and how we leverage our scale to be more efficient.
And then with regard to where we’re seeing challenges with the guest experience, we deal with those immediately. We’re working and measuring the guest satisfaction level on our in-restaurant and our takeout experience on a daily basis and where we have opportunities our operators are jumping on that in real time.
And then just a final question on Maggiano’s, there’s been a good discussion now around some of the nuances of why that comp was down, but I still wanted to ask this question to the decree that that is a slightly higher-end consumer and curious if that’s a leading indicator of any overall big picture softness and/or what to expect for the holiday season. I mean, you’ve addressed a little bit of both, but maybe just few, fine tune that. Is there any worry we should have about looking at the Maggiano’s component worrying about a higher-end consumer or the holiday period?
I’ll kind of take them separately. I think the higher-end consumer, if you look at some of the upscale casual and fine, it looks like there’s a little bit more headwind there than they’ve seen in the past, whether that’s just tougher lapse or whether that’s some pressure as you mentioned on the higher-end consumer, it’s not drastic, it’s not a dramatic issue, but it’s – it’s definitely it looks like there may be a little more headwind there.
With regard to the holiday season, things are looking – we’re out booking already and their initial booking rate looks good. The team is excited and aggressively out making sure that Maggiano’s has another great holiday season. So we’re very optimistic about how they’ll perform in the holidays, which again, I think the overall environment, I think would bode well for another good holiday season. I mean, again there’s some concern that overall on employment where it’s at, household inventories where it’s at. I think we’re going to see people out wanting to celebrate the holidays this year.
Thank you.
Alright, thanks Nicole.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Jeffrey Bernstein, [Barclays]. Jeffrey, your line is live, please mention your affiliation and post your question.
Thank you, I am calling from Barclays. Two questions, just one, Joe on the labor line, we’re quite impressed to see that you’re able to hold that flat as a percentage of sales. I know you talked about maybe 50 basis points do leveraged for the year. I’m just wondering what you attribute maybe the biggest driver allowing you to hold that line, whether there’s any change in turnover or perhaps you’re seeing greater efficiency, we’ve heard a couple of your peers talk about that recently. Especially as you’re seeing 3.5% inflation, the ability to hold that line has been a pleasant surprise. So I’m just wondering if there are any big initiatives that are really helping to support that. And then I have one follow-up.
Yes, I think the biggest initiative is really just the ongoing execution in the muscle memory, the operators are bringing to the equation we’ve talked about simplifying things in the past, and I know there was always a lot of discussion around the menu. It’s just as important as is keeping things straight forward and as simplified as possible within the restaurant operations side. And we’ve done a very effective job. So we see better utilization against our labor models.
Again, the operators have delivered for several periods now against our expectations on labor and utilizing those tools and those models. So that has played yet well. We are seeing turnover rates particularly on the managerial side of the equation come down in that environment as the brand has performed well. I think that is contributing to the process.
We’ve talked in the past on the CSL side of the equation and some of the benefits we’re continuing to accrue from that. And then the top line volumes, I mean, again that are still even within labor, some leveragability opportunities and that was a nice play within this quarter helping offset again, some are just ongoing, wage rate inflationary factors that are out there. So labor is something you have to work aggressively every day and we got the teams really focused on that right now.
Got it. And then maybe just Wyman, you mentioned at the end of your prepared remarks, how you were pleased in that challenging environment. I’m just wondering if you could maybe contextualize that, what specifically in terms of challenging environment, I know whether you’re talking about Chili’s or the industry, it seems like from a Chili’s perspective, you made it clear you have strong momentum, you have low single digit commodity inflation. Labor, it seems like you’re managing quite well. So I was just wondering, when you talk about challenging environment, a lot of your peers talk about that as well, is there anything in particular that you’d call out at this point and whether it’s Chili’s specific or maybe for the broader industry, if all things seem to be going well on your end?
Definitely more industry than Chili’s specific, just we’re a little surprised frankly that given the macro economic trends that the industry is struggling a little bit on the traffic side especially and that’s why we continue to put a lot of emphasis on driving traffic and keeping bodies coming into the brand. And we’re confident that the strategies we’ve got in place will continue to do that, that’s – that was really the background for the comment.
Understood, thank you.
All right. Jeff, thanks.
Thank you. Our next question is coming from Sara Senatore, [Bernstein]. Sara, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and post your question.
Thank you. Bernstein, and just few follow-ups please, first is on is actually on the labor line. I know you talked about a lot of the efficiencies, did sound like there was a bit of an offset in terms of the managerial comp, I just want to make sure that I was understanding correctly that that’s where it’s showing up and also, if so is that how we should think about it going forward?
As you said it’s something you’re happy to pay and I think it is the right strategy for sure, but I was just trying to think about the offsets going forward to some of the efficiencies you’re driving on the labor line? And then I have a follow-up also on the delivery question.
Yes. Sara, I think, I’m assuming you’re referring to the managerial bonus, a comment that I made and yes, there was incremental level of managerial bonus year-over-year we pay, which is again was about $0.04 EPS expense and that comes with a lot of good things. That means the managers are delivering top-line, they’re flowing through at levels that we expect to see them do, they’re delivering GEM score. So it does show up in labor as that incremental expense, but I would suggest it has positive ramifications across the rest of the performance of the company. So that’s really where you will see it.
And should we expect sort of a similar magnitude going forward, assuming you kind of continue these top-line trends.
It will depend. It could be in that range. Again, I think you’ll continue to – we’ll give you some insight if we see that and the incremental benefits to performing against our expectations would come along with that. Again, one of things, as I mentioned before, you’ll see some leverage that comes into the system too as long as they’re performing at that top line.
Great. Thank you. And then on delivery, I was just curious if you had any sort of insights you could share and just the broader picture, obviously there’s been some evidence that maybe we’ll see at least in the near-term, a step up in competition among aggregators for restaurant inventory or to drive volumes, do you have any sort of expectation that you could see improved economics or more marketing around the Chili’s brand in particular because it is a volume driver, just any sense of whether or not, things might get actually more competitive and to your benefit from an aggregator perspective?
I don’t know if I’m –everyone’s going to weighing on aggregators, I probably will pass and let folks that are more familiar with the aggregators themselves, I’ll just talk about our partnership and how we see delivery both with our partner DoorDash as well as what we’re doing on our own. And we’ve got several initiatives that have yet to be rolled out that we think will continue – will help us continue to build on the momentum regarding now which is significant and carry us like we have seen with the takeout business.
We’re now into our – going into our ninth quarter of positive comps on takeout. We don’t see any reason while we can’t have a similar long runway with delivery. And they’re growing together. So this convenience aspect of the business is important, it is a trend. We have a great partnership, we think that’s going to continue to leverage us and then to a position of strength in the category. And then we’re also just excited about some of the initiatives we’ve got going on independent to drive that business as well as our takeout business. So that’s kind of how we see it.
Thank you.
Thanks, Sara.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Eric Gonzalez, [KeyBanc]. Eric, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and post your question.
Hey, thanks. It’s KeyBanc. So just a question on takeout, I think you said this was the eighth quarter of takeout growth, but I don’t think you talked about what the growth rate was in the past that had been, I think a strong double digit or mid-teens type of growth rates. So what was the takeout growth rate during the quarter and then how much of that business do you think was cannibalized by the delivery launch? Thanks.
Hey, Eric. Yes, it was again, high-single digits, continuing to move forward. And with that a lot of our energy in marketing was really more focused on delivery, so kind of just almost organically moving at a nice growth level. So again very strong piece of the business.
And I think it’s very important to recognize that because again, we get so much time and energy around delivering and rightly so when it’s a great new channel, but we have a very strong established to go business, it is also continuing to grow in lock step with that delivery. So providing convenience initiatives that play to where the consumer whether or not they want it delivered or they want to pick it up, or want to dine-in it is critical, that convenience has to play across all of those channels. And I think we are a well established now to leverage that going forward.
Yes. And one of the things that we’re really excited about is a lot of the delivery guests that were introduced the Chili’s in this quarter are incremental, they’re not our heavy users, some of them are not very familiar with the brand at all. And now that they’ve experienced it in delivery, the takeout options, some of the other options become much more viable for us.
Thanks.
Alright, thanks Eric.
The next question is coming from Bob Derrington, [Telsey Advisory]. Bob, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and post your question.
Yes. Hi, Telsey Advisory. Two real quick questions. One, Wyman, on the product innovation front, I think you talked a little bit about that earlier in the call. Should we anticipate that because you have so many other opportunities to drive the business, especially delivery, takeout, et cetera, that this will be a – I guess maybe a less complex year in the way of product innovation relative to typical years?
Hey Bob. Last year was a very simple year for us and one of our better years. So we – I think it’s probably more the new norm, we’re not going to be putting pressure on our operators with massive changes at the restaurant level. The brand is strong, it’s got a great system, what we’re looking for are really compelling innovations that they resonate with guests. And we’re holding a much higher standard in the culinary and the marketing team are stepping up to those standards in terms, so when we talk about putting something into the restaurant, it’s got to have breadth and it’s got to make a difference in and we’re out in test now with some things that are doing that.
We’re out in market today with the – a great example of this Margarita of the Month program, our current fantastic Margarita is probably one of the most successful things we’ve done. The team’s done a great job figuring out now how to bring innovation into the system and into the restaurants and in that program specifically on a monthly basis, but do it in a way that the operators can absorb it, execute it at a high-level and it makes a difference to the guests. And we have sold a lot of things out there in the last few weeks.
So we’re very excited about kind of the process as much as anything about innovation. That said, I think when we bring innovation to the market and we will – it will make a difference.
Okay. All right, that’s helpful. And Joe, real quick question, you talked about the commodity outlook and that things are kind of playing out as you anticipated this year, but that said, you’re also looking at extending your contracts, is there something about the future, the outlook that gives your suppliers some concern, they’re suggesting you get more aggressive? Is it the African swine fever, is that the big concern or is it just more certainty about what your future costs will look like?
Yes, I think we want to air on the certainty side of the equation. Again, our philosophical approach from a supply chain is to try and minimize volatility too and give price certainty to the operator so much as we can. And the reality of the world is that there’s a lot more swirling out there right now as it relates to the potential issues around commodities. We do feel it’s probably been a little overblown.
We spent a lot of time with the commodity experts that look at the global channels very minutely and we wanted to make sure we’re understanding that, but at the same time we want to again take the risk management approach appropriately. So again we’re setting contracts, remember coming out of a pretty good commodity pricing environments. So when you combine those two elements together, the risk management side of the equation makes sense to be a little more aggressive in this line. So that’s kind of where we are in that.
Got it. Thank you.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Andrew Strelzik, [BMO]. Andrew, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and post your question.
BMO. Thank you. I was hoping to get an update on the loyalty program, particularly given all the favorable commentary about the progress in the digital channels. What are you seeing from a sign up perspective, membership perspective? Are you happy with the way that the program is performing and where are you? And I know there are other plans to lean in, more aggressively on the CRM side over time, where are you now versus where you plan to end up and kind of the timing your pathway on that?
Andrew, we’re, as we mentioned and I’ll say we’re definitely now stepping up the program with regard to acquisition. The operator is doing a great job making sure that all the guests that come into the restaurant understand the value of becoming Chili’s loyalty member. And we’re seeing good build of the already significant loyalty database that we have. And we continue to kind of grow that towards our targets. So everything is going as a kind of as planned. With that we’re anticipating we’ll continue to actually see increased momentum as we move out through the year.
And the program is working very well for us as. As we get more and more – again, more and more reps communicating with our loyalty members and understand exactly what motivates each of them almost on an individual basis, our team’s able to become much more effective at putting those messages out there to them that resonate the most.
Okay. Great, that’s helpful. And just a second one from me, I guess incrementally it feels like the industry is moving more value centric and more promotional recently, is that consistent with what you’ve seen, number one, and number two, how do you feel like Chili’s is positioned, obviously values been a key component, but as you’re lapping three for $10, just how you feel like the strategy aligns with kind of the current competitive environment.
Yes, I think they’re – on the face of it; it looks like there’s probably more promotional competitiveness out there than there has been in the recent past. I don’t know if it’s been that effective. And I think we continue to believe in this strategy that strong everyday kind of value proposition that gets refreshed through innovation but not through necessarily LTO’s that move in and out of the system, that kind of an unsubstantiated pace is the way to go. So we’ll continue to work our strategy, we feel good about what three for $10 is doing and how it plays in the mix of our overall menu. And we’ll continue to kind of look for ways to enhance it, refresh it, but also move value through other channels as well.
Yes. Andrew, I think it’s pretty clear now and you heard us talk about it in the comments, we have differentiated the Chili’s brand from the competition. It has a brand positioning now, that is extremely effective. We think it will be continuing to be effective in a variety of market conditions, whatever you want to assume might be coming down the way it’s continuing to, not just gap but very meaningfully gap – and gap across the country, the industry.
So we like stronger industries and weaker industries, but we’re focused on continuing to execute this strategy that differentiates whatever environment we might face.
Great, thank you very much.
Okay, thanks.
Thank you. And the next question is coming from Howard Penney, [Hedgeye Risk Management], Howard, your line is live. Please announce your affiliation and post your question.
Hedgeye Risk Management. I have a delivery question as well. If you were understanding your DoorDash relationship is new and you’re just beginning, but if you were to make the strategic decision to change your delivery provider, how complex is that and how long would it take you without losing momentum?
Yes. There are variables in there, Howard that would make that question kind of hard to answer just off the top like that. So we don’t have any inclination or desire to do that, so it’s nothing that we’re studying and we’re very happy with the relationship and how it’s playing out. And obviously you’ve seen in our performance this quarter that we’re able to drive the business with the partnership that we have. So yes, so I think obviously things can change, but we’re happy with where we’re at right now and excited to continue to partner with DoorDash.
Thanks.
Thanks, Howard.
Okay. Thank you everyone. I think we’re out of time. So, we appreciate everyone joining us on the call today and look forward to updating you on our second quarter results in January. Have a wonderful day.
Thank you everybody.
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