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Earnings Call Transcript
2020-Q2

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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the CubeSmart Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded.

Now, I'd like to turn the conference over to Josh Schutzer, Senior Director of Finance. Please go ahead.

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Josh Schutzer
Director of Financial Analysis

Thank you, Cole. Hello, everyone, and good morning, welcome to CubeSmart's second quarter 2020 earnings call. Participants on today's call include Chris Marr, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Tim Martin, Chief Financial Officer. Our prepared remarks will be followed by a Q&A session.

In addition to our earnings release, which was issued yesterday evening, supplemental operating and financial data is available under the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.cubesmart.com. The company's remarks will include certain forward-looking statements regarding earnings and strategy that involve risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause the actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. The risks and factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements are provided in documents the company furnishes to or files with the Securities and Exchange Commission, specifically, the Form 8-K we filed this morning, together with our earnings release filed Form 8-K and the Risk Factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10-K.

In addition, the company's remarks include reference to non-GAAP measures. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP measures can be found in the second quarter financial supplement posted on the company's website at www.cubesmart.com.

I will now turn the call over to Chris.

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Josh. Good morning, everyone. I will begin by recognizing our 3100 teammates across the country. We've had to change the way we do, but along the way our mission has been our guide and together, we've been simplifying challenges, creating innovative solutions and delivering unparalleled service.

Tim will provide insight into the second quarter results. From a high level perspective, rentals hit the bottom in April, rates in May and both began to recover in June. Even July was our first month of what we would consider more normal pre-COVID operations. I will focus my comments on trends we observed post the end of the second quarter.

Positive year-over-year demand trends, which began in June continue to show strength in July with same-store move-ins, up 3.8% over July of 2019. We resumed our normal lean process in June and made significant progress in addressing our past-due customers in July. We expect to conclude the process substantially at the end of August certainly by the end of the third quarter at which point we anticipate our receivables returning to more normal pre-COVID levels.

Our July same-store vacates were down 7.7% year-over-year partially reflective of the status of our auction process, but also reflective of continued increases in length of stay. Our same-store year-over-year net effective rents for new customers shifted into positive territory in July up 2.5% on average for the month compared to July of 2019, and ended the month up approximately 7% compared to the last day of July 2019.

As we noted in our press release, we resume more traditional pre-COVID operational processes by the end of June. During the month of July and into early August rate increase letters were sent to all of our customers including those remaining in our portfolio for whom we had pause the process in mid-March. We anticipate that the rent roll will be fully caught up with rate increases by the end of the quarter.

We continue to innovate at a rapid pace reaping the benefits of investments we have made in our technology stack, revenue management and marketing automation. SmartRental our online contact free experience accounted for approximately 25% of our rental volume during the quarter. We remain cautiously optimistic. Our industry has been and remains very resilient. We are keeping a watchful eye on customer behavior in light of continuing uncertainty around government stimulus, the opening and closing of schools and segments of our economy and the varying impact the pandemic is having in each region of our country.

We believe that the breadth of our need based customer, the quality of our portfolio, the strength of our balance sheet and the investment we have made in our people in our systems will continue to create value for all of our stakeholders.

Thank you. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Tim.

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Thanks, Chris, and thank you to everyone on the call for your continued interest and support. Picking up on Chris' comments, we do find ourselves feeling cautiously optimistic and interestingly, as we report second quarter results, we find ourselves in a similarly strange position as last quarter. When we reported first quarter results the numbers we were reporting seemed stale, and not particularly reflective of the environment we were in, at the time since the impacts of the pandemic were front and center but the first quarter results didn't include much of the impact.

And now as we report second quarter results the current operating environment feels much more positive, certainly than April and May when we were seeing what we hope was the worst of the impact of storage fundamentals. Overall for the quarter, we reported FFO per share of $0.41, same-store revenue growth of negative 2.2%, same-store expense growth of 2.4% and same-store NOI growth of negative 4.1%.

Last quarter, we adjusted several of our operating practices by stopping our lean sales and pausing on our rent increases to existing customers, among other things. Throughout June and July, we began methodically resuming normal operations in those areas, but of course it's not as simple as flipping a switch and things revert back to normal as there are notice periods that need to occur prior to the financial impact.

So as we resume those practices the positive impact of doing so will be partially evident in the latter part of the third quarter and then looking a lot more normal in the fourth quarter. Of course, all of that assumes macro conditions don't reverse, and we don't go back to a more restrictive environment as a result of COVID-19.

Our store teams and district managers have done a great job working through our delinquent accounts as well as various levels of lean sales as we had a lot of work to do with the backlog created from pausing in April and May. As a result of those efforts we're in really good shape with our collections and our receivable balances. Couple of different ways people have been looking at that, someone an update on how the current months collections are trending, that doesn't always work all that well in our sector, but on last quarter's call, we were talking about April collections and we told you at the time that we collected 93% of April rents compared to ultimately collecting 98% of April rents in 2019. This year, that 93% grew and grew and as of today we've collected 97.6% of April rents, pretty much right on top of last year.

So the answer to the question for July is that as of today we've collected 95.6% of July rents again compared to about 98% ultimately collected last year. Of course we fully expect that as the weeks continue our July rent collections will continue to grow and ultimately will likely end up being very similar to last year.

Another way to think about collections is look at accounts receivable balances, and from that perspective, things also look very healthy. As we look at AR balances less than 30 days, and AR balances less than 60 days and compare those levels to last year at the same time, our comparable balances are actually slightly better than they were last year.

And then the final thought on collections and delinquencies, then from an occupancy standpoint since we paused on customer lean sales, our occupancy levels have been slightly inflated by those cubes that normally would have been subject to the lean sale process. That incremental occupancy was 90 basis points at the end of June and was down to 40 basis points at the end of July. So that's another good indicator that we're trending back towards normal.

So trying to provide some color there, and details that I know some of you were looking for, but in short collections, AR balances, write-off none of those are of concern to us. And in fact really speak to the quality of the cash flows in our sector, the quality of the self-storage customer and the high levels of customer diversification in our business. In the second quarter from an external growth perspective, we closed on two acquisitions for $65.7 million, and during the quarter we added 27 stores to our third-party management platform. As detailed in our earnings release last evening given the volatile macro environment and continued uncertainty of potential future economic disruption caused by COVID-19, we have decided not to reinstate guidance at this time, there simply remains too many unknowns and uncertainties to factor in to provide a range of estimates per our normal practice.

From a balance sheet perspective, we remain very healthy and are well positioned not only to have capacity to meet our near and medium-term commitments, but we have plenty of capacity, financial flexibility and access to attractive capital to support pursuing external growth opportunities, if and when we identify attractive investments that will allow us to continue our history of creating long-term shareholder value.

At quarter end, our leverage levels remain conservative at 39% debt to gross assets. Our debt to EBITDA was 4.9 times and our fixed charge coverage ratio was 5.6 times.

Thanks again for taking the time to join us for today's call. At this point Carl, let's open up the line for some questions.

Operator

And we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today will come from [indiscernible] with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

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Unidentified Analyst

Hi everyone, thank you for taking my questions. So I just want to start off with those units up for the lean sales. So I was wondering if there are certain markets that those are mostly concentrated, just trying to figure out the delta between you guys and your peers?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

So it's pretty universal as we stopped lean sales across the entire portfolio and as we began to resume the lean sales it was pretty programmatic, and certainly varied a little bit market by market, and there are different -- there different requirements in each market as it relates to notice periods and the like, but generally speaking, we've started the process across the entire portfolio and we expect to have things pretty much wrapped up in August, some will slip into September, but by the time we get to the end of third quarter, we expect to be in good shape across the country.

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Unidentified Analyst

Got it. And so there is no -- there aren't many markets that are still restricting you from proceeding with this?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

No.

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Unidentified Analyst

Okay, got it. And then, just anything on the SmartRental other than just 25% of rental volume as what feedback have you got from customers? Anything else you can tell us about that program?

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

So, we would expect there is a segment of the customer base who understands the product, feels comfortable with the space requirement that they have and is used to a self-service experience, and they are enjoying SmartRental as a way to meet their needs. Clearly, we have another tangible segment of the customer base who are either first time users of our product, unsure of the space need or just like to have that interaction. So we're able to serve at both ends of the spectrum. We will continue to innovate SmartRental adding features. We're adding features almost weekly. I think it's been very helpful in terms of thinking about times where for example on a Sunday afternoon or early evenings, et cetera where customers may drive up the office is closed, but there is a QR code on the door that they can scan and go through the rental process at their convenience. So it has been helpful. I think what this is going to look like someday when we return to more normal levels, I think you're always going to have a significant segment of the consumer who likes a more traditional process as opposed to the self-service model. So, we will continue to provide them with both ends of the spectrum.

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Unidentified Analyst

Understood. And then, just following up on that. Has that helped you in terms of your marketing spend, like is that in any way going to benefit you in the future considering marketing spend continues to be really high?

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

I don't know whether you can draw a straight line between SmartRental and marketing spend. I think they are independent of one another, certainly complementary in terms of again, being able to attract a customer for whom contactless is a search term that they choose to use. But I think they are largely independent of one another.

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Unidentified Analyst

Okay. Got it. Thank you.

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Smedes Rose with Citi. Please go ahead.

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Smedes Rose
Citi

Hi, thanks. I was just wanted to ask, now that you've put back in place rent increases for existing customers, you said for pretty much across the board. Just any change in the way you're thinking about the degree of the rent increases, it's kind of pre or post-pandemic, or is it kind of just in line with where you board have been regardless?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Hey, Smedes. Thanks for the question. Yes, we are still programmatically looking at rate increases to existing customers in a very similar way to what we have -- would have done pre-pandemic and lessons learned over many, many years, even going back to the global financial crisis is that all of our data, all of our testing suggests that those levels consumer behavior simply doesn't change as a result of continuing to push those rate increases again, in the high single-digit range. Of course history doesn't always repeat itself. And we have the tools and the systems to monitor behaviors very closely, and if we were to see something that would give us some type of evidence that the consumer wasn't behaving the same way they had in the past, we can certainly be extremely nimble and adjust accordingly. But to-date we haven't seen any evidence nor our intuition suggests that we won't.

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Smedes Rose
Citi

Okay, thanks. And then I was just wondering, I don't know you may not really have a good read on this. I mean do you think that the $600 it's kind of the unemployment benefits that around top-of-state benefits helped your existing customers, or do you think for the most part, maybe there is not really in that category and it sort of less of an issue if that goes away or it's changed meaningfully? I don't know if you have any way to any kind of thoughts on that. Curious if you do.

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Smedes is just purely anecdotal I think at the margin it certainly was helpful for folks who had that additional cash. Again, I think across the customer base, it so diverse and such a different segments of both the country geography, as well as economically that I can't imagine having it or not having it is a material impact on our customer.

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Smedes Rose
Citi

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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Todd Thomas
KeyBanc Capital Markets

Hi, thank you. Tim, thanks for the detail around the collections and the impact the delayed auctions had on occupancy and everything. What was the bad debt expense, or the reserve in the quarter that impacted the income statement? And how do you expect that to trend in the third quarter as you work through the backlog of auctions? Do you expect it to be larger or smaller relative to 2Q?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Well, I expect the impact from bad debts to decline, but I mean of course it's all in a net revenue reporting structure right. So we only report revenue on cubes that are rented where we expect that we'll ultimately be able to collect it. So obviously, during the second quarter, we experienced a period of time with a delay in the lean sales that we had that portion of our occupancy that was in our cubes that we didn't believe would ultimately pay given historical trends of it. If you get that far behind and are subject to typically to a lean sale we view that rent is ultimately not collectible. So we don't recorded it by way of reserving against it, and netting down our revenue. So certainly, I think the levels of that will decline as we've caught up now or are catching up with the lean sales. I don't think the impact to the trajectory of revenues, or the growth in revenues has any direct impact from the write-off amount, right, it's all net revenue presentation.

So, I think as things improve the impact from write-offs, the improvement in collections is helpful, but we don't disclose the exact amount, but the impact of it is certainly going to decline here, as we return to normal.

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Todd Thomas
KeyBanc Capital Markets

Are you able to sort of book, and how much above average levels it was in the quarter?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Yes, I would say that our delinquencies to ultimately that we didn't think we were going to collect would have gone from around 2% to somewhere between 2.5% to 3%. So then the write-offs, then that would come from that, if you do the math, is that write-off then would have been up just north of 50%.

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Todd Thomas
KeyBanc Capital Markets

Got it. That's helpful. And then I was also wondering if you could give us an update on ICAP. I believe there were some pending legislation trying to loosen up the regulations to get new developments in ahead of the July 1 deadline, or maybe some other possible changes. Can you provide an update on what's happening there?

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. The update that I can provide you is certainly there is a lot of discussion. There are many impacted parties who had things in the planning stages, or who had made investments either in real money or in a lot of time, and they are very interested parties in trying to get some levels of exceptions to the line that was drawn. I don't have anything to update you on any formal action that has been taken as a result of those efforts. We certainly believe that the legislation that was passed ultimately is passed, and medium to long term wouldn't expect that that would be reversed anything that's done in the short-term to make a handful of exceptions too early to tell, and would just be conjecture.

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Todd Thomas
KeyBanc Capital Markets

Okay. And then have you started to see developers begin moving outward from New York City, may be looking to explore an uptick, I guess an activity around New Jersey or Westchester, maybe Long Island? And then, also just in terms of New York MSA exposure. I was just wondering if you could also comment on conditions there were they sort of consistent with what you laid out for the improvements that you saw in the second quarter, and into July, or do you think that conditions in New York could intensify a little bit, or way further on revenue growth in the third quarter?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

I'll take the first part of that and then Chris can chime in. As it relates to developers and where their focus is even before the ICAP legislation took hold, we were already seeing folks that were in the area start to look further out, as the supply that has come into the Boroughs has been supply that frankly over time is going to be entirely justified the levels of square foot per capita in the Boroughs is still extraordinarily low relative to any other market. And so, that said the attractive opportunities have -- were picked over and so those who have development platforms in the Boroughs were already starting to look outside of the Boroughs to continue to find opportunities to develop our product type, certainly the ICAP legislation is going to enhance that, and perhaps accelerate folks looking in different places, but it was already underway.

And then, for color on performance, Chris, if you want to jump in?

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. New York, both the MSA and the Boroughs, July was the fabulous month. In fact for the MSA exceeding what I quoted nationally. So rentals were up 7%, net effective rents to new customers were up just about 5%, occupancy was up 150 basis points, for the Boroughs specifically rentals were up consistent with the same-store portfolio in that three plus percent range, net effective rents for the new customers were up much higher than what we had seen in the rest of the country, 5.8% for the month of July and that really ranges from the Bronx at just about 7% to Queens being up only a couple of basis points. So, it perform both as an MSA and the Boroughs themselves, really, really well in July and we're excited about that continuing on here into August.

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Todd Thomas
KeyBanc Capital Markets

Thank you.

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Thanks, Todd.

Operator

And our next question will come from Ryan Lumb with Green Street Advisors. Please go ahead.

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Ryan Lumb
Green Street Advisors

Thanks. And actually to stay on similar topic in New York there. We've heard anecdote of residents in New York are just packing up, and going elsewhere either temporarily or maybe more long-term as the city faced worsening case count in the second quarter. Give any color around some of the flight out of New York in the second quarter? Do any of that turn in to storage demand? Any color you can provide there would be great.

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I may be wrong, but I think this little company called Facebook just made of rented 750,000 square feet of office space in New York City. I'm not sure if I read that correctly. But I think the demise of New York as it has been for a 100 years is premature. From our customer base in the outer Boroughs, Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx particularly I think the storage…

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

It looks like we -- looks like Chris losses audio. I think anecdotally, what you're referring to as folks moving around and maybe leaving for a temporary period, certainly there have been some articles on that, and that's a trend that certainly has legs to it. I think that's just yet another description of a type of customer who needs a temporary place to store their goods. I would think most likely those customers are going to store for a period of time when their work situation returns to normal, and they want to start coming back to the office. I would suspect that many of those people will migrate back in, and their need for a temporary place to store their belongings will end. They'll find a new apartment probably at a much lower rate, and things will get back to normal.

The timeframe for which that would happen, your guess is good as mine at the moment. Could be a couple of months, could be six, 9 months, either way, I think that's just again anecdotally another type of customer who needs our product and we're happy to have them as a customer.

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Ryan Lumb
Green Street Advisors

Sure, understand. And then we heard from PS Business Parks which caters primarily sort of smaller tenants, smaller businesses some weakness among small businesses. Can you provide any additional color around maybe the health of your small business customer?

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I'm sorry, my myself on disconnect me there. I am -- what we're seeing across the portfolio is that the majority of our customers, that are small businesses continue to rent and they're continue to be current on their rent. We are seeing, as we did during the great recession, unfortunately, the return of the customer whose small business or restaurant they elected to close and they have inventory, or they have restaurant equipment that they own, and they want to store with a belief that coming out the other side of this, they will resume business. So, we are starting to see those customers coming into the portfolio much as we did during the great recession.

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Ryan Lumb
Green Street Advisors

Okay. Great, thanks guys.

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Michael Mueller with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

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Michael Mueller
JP Morgan

Yes, hi. I was wondering, can you talk a little bit about the spread between move in and move out rates during the quarter? And how that look compared to, I guess a year ago?

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I'm trying to trying to put my fingers on it here, it's a -- the gap widened a little bit from last year. Mike, if you had, do you have second question, I'll try to pull that number for us. Apologies, I just don't have right in front of me.

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Michael Mueller
JP Morgan

Actually, that was it -- some stuff that New York…

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Hey, I've got. I think the difference between move in and move out there in the quarter was down about 21% which would have been compared to about 9% in the second quarter of '19.

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Michael Mueller
JP Morgan

Got it. Okay. And any early commentary of how that's trending in Q3?

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

No, not at this time. I don't have any update.

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Michael Mueller
JP Morgan

Okay. That's it. Thank you.

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Thanks.

Operator

And our next question will come from Samir Khanal with Evercore. Please go ahead.

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Samir Khanal
Evercore

Yes, good morning everybody. I guess, Chris or Tim, can you talk a little bit about the third-party management platform. I mean, have you seen private owners want to be part of the -- that whole platform here as they navigate through the environment. And I guess, how should we think about that platform the growth over the next sort of several quarters?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Yes, I think it's, continues to be a business that the inbound calls continue, our pipeline of management contracts to bring on over time here continues to develop, and looks pretty healthy and it's a combination of existing open and operating stores, many of which are stable and you have the owners who for a magnitude of reasons recognize and continue to recognize the value of a large platform like ours, the sophistication from a business intelligence revenue management perspective, the sophistication from a marketing perspective, and the power of having an operating platform and the ability to navigate through the crazy world that we find ourselves in here over the last few weeks as far as being able to react quickly to create the ability for customers to find new online in a no touch way and they managed through all of the -- it's a heavy intensive operating business that we're in and working through everything over the last couple of months, our team has just done such a fantastic job of adjusting, and I think if you're a small owner, you look at that you say, wow, I can't compete with that.

So, you certainly have folks from that perspective. You also have, while the development cycle is getting late, there are still new stores being delivered, and many of those new stores are going to find a home in our management platform, or one of our peers management platforms, because again, their expertise as a developer is not in running our business, and running a store and so they need help, and they're going to come to a large player for that help. So, which we continue to see inbound calls -- we continue to -- our business development folks are busy. So there's certainly a lot of interest.

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Samir Khanal
Evercore

Okay. And I guess my second question is around the transaction market. Sorry, if I missed this, but is there any color that you can provide. I know at the beginning in the year, I think things are starting to pick up and then you hit the impact from COVID, and there was a bit of a pause there, but I'm hearing that things are starting to pick back up again, those certainly from seller and buyer perspective. Any color on that and cap rates, and pricing would be helpful.

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Yes, I think part of it is just seasonal. Many folks on the selling side, want to at least get partway end of the summer busy season and see their occupancies tick up or get a little bit of pricing power before they come to market. So I think there's two things happened. One, you're getting to the front point of the year where you have a little bit more activity in the normal year. And then of course we're starting to get a little bit more clarity on operating performance, and the impact on rates and the like as a result of the pandemic. So certainly activities picked up a little bit. Pricing remains very strong from a seller's perspective certainly on an open and operating stable property. There is an awful lot of capital that's interested in those types of assets. Certainly, not just the REITs, there is an awful lot of private capital that is looking to invest in our sector, given the strength of the cash flows in our sector, certainly, on a relative basis to a lot of other product types, storage remains a very attractive asset class. So there is an awful lot of interest, which is keeping cap rates down. I think no surprise, but the potential area that we could find some opportunities that might be a little bit more attractive on a risk adjusted basis, our stores that are in some stage of lease-up.

And if you're seeing some of those opportunities, I would say there is still quite often a pretty big disconnect between buyer and seller expectations that the seller is still looking to put out a package that shows the dream as they rates are going to return to where they were back a year ago, and the lease-up in the pace of lease-up will continue to be what they thought it was when they built the store, and on the buyer side people are being a little bit more cautious and perhaps a little bit more realistic on their underwriting. So whether those trades find a mark, were the buyer and seller can meet, we'll see how things play out.

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Samir Khanal
Evercore

Any idea as to how far off in pricing, buyers and sellers are off right now?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

And it's just wildly going to differ from deal to deal. We've been this connected by as much as 20%, 30% sometimes and then, but what's interesting is somebody will pop up and paying there what the seller is looking for. So it only takes one, it only takes one buyer to make the transaction.

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Samir Khanal
Evercore

Got it. Okay, thanks so much for that.

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Ki Bin Kim from Truist Capital. Please go ahead.

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Ki Bin Kim
SunTrust

Thanks, good afternoon. I just wanted to tie up some data point of your ECRI program. If you never stopped it in 2Q what benefit, would that have provided?

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

It would have been better.

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Ki Bin Kim
SunTrust

Any kind of better color to that in terms of [indiscernible].

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

That wasn't clear enough for you. We didn't quantify that. I mean, as we've talked about in past we haven't quantified the components of the revenue growth down to that level. I will tell you that it is the, as we are modeling things out back in late March and looking at the potential impact of all kinds of different things, rate increases to existing customers, move in volumes, effective rates to new customers, write-offs, delinquencies you go through all of those variables. I will tell you that the pass along increases to existing customers in the three to nine month period of turning those off was the single biggest impact to revenue growth year-over-year, because if you're doing that consistently as we have been for years, and then you stop it's a pretty big drag on earnings growth. So, without giving you a number because we're not going to disclose it. I will tell you that in the range of things that could impact it was certainly the biggest one.

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Ki Bin Kim
SunTrust

Okay. And other rental income, I'm assuming there's best of -- registration fees, late fees. How much did not charging customers late fees impact that trend? And as the business returns back to normal should I just expect that to normalize by end of the year?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Yes. The majority of the amount that's down year-over-year was attributable to late fees. A little bit early in the quarter would have been on administrative fees things that are associated with customers moving in. And so move-in volumes were down of course. And so that had a little bit, have an impact but you hit the big one which was when you start charging late fees, that was the biggest driver of the variance in that line.

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Ki Bin Kim
SunTrust

Okay. And just high-level, do you think was there a different customer segment, or customer using storage for different reasons that made a pronounced impact, in July that might have contributed to the kind of higher rental activity?

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

It's just anecdotal stuff. We have hundreds of thousands of customers who all come to us. Again, as I talked about earlier the beauty of the business is there are so many different needs that create demand for our product. It would be anecdotal at best anything that I would provide there from a color perspective.

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Ki Bin Kim
SunTrust

Okay. Thanks.

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Timothy Martin
Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer

Thanks, Ki Bin.

Operator

And this will conclude our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Chris Marr for any closing remarks.

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Christopher Marr
President & Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Thanks, everybody, for participating in our call. Please continue to stay safe. We wish you all the best. And we look forward to speaking to everyone on our third quarter earnings call. Take care having great rest of your summer.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.