Catalent Inc

NYSE:CTLT

Earnings Call Analysis

Company reasserts full year guidance, bearing net loss

The quarter saw a 4%-6% decline in net revenue at $982 million due to a $85 million decrease in COVID-19 related revenue, offset by growths of 11% and 5% in Biologics and PCH respectively. Adjusted EBITDA plummeted by 38% to $115 million, and the company recorded an adjusted net loss of $19 million. Despite this, fiscal '24 guidance remains unchanged, expecting net revenue between $4.3 billion to $4.5 billion (3% growth at midpoint), adjusted EBITDA from $680 million to $760 million, and adjusted net income ranging from $113 million to $175 million.

Financial Reporting and Goodwill Impairment Concerns

Our financial reporting is currently delayed due to the need for more time to complete internal control assessments and procedures, particularly in relation to a substantial non-cash goodwill impairment charge of approximately $700 million. This charge largely pertains to past acquisitions within our Consumer Health and Biomodalities divisions. Although this has resulted in the late filing of our annual and quarterly reports, we are working diligently to resolve these matters and do not anticipate a material change in the financial results from our preliminary disclosures.

Q1 Fiscal 2024 Revenue Dips Amid COVID-19 Declines

Revenue for the first quarter of fiscal 2024 has dipped to $982 million, a decrease of 4% on a reported basis and 6% on a constant currency basis compared to the previous year's first quarter. The decline is primarily due to a noticeable drop in COVID-19-related revenue as well as the absence of a one-time licensing fee. Despite these challenges, we have seen growth in other areas such as Biologics and Pharma and Consumer Health, excluding COVID-19 impacts.

Biologics Segment Faces Headwinds

Our Biologics segment suffered a 16% decrease in net revenue compared to the prior year, falling to $447 million in the first quarter. The chief cause of this downturn was the reduced demand for COVID-19 products, resulting in an $85 million decrease. However, we observed a ray of hope with an 11% growth in non-COVID related Biologics revenue when considering factors like a one-time licensing fee from the prior year. Despite these setbacks, we remain committed to improving productivity and margins over time, especially with investments in prefilled syringe lines anticipated to augment returns in the long run.

Pharma and Consumer Health Segments Mixed Performance

The Pharma and Consumer Health segment witnessed a modest 5% increase in net revenue, reaching $535 million. The upside was primarily due to the Metrics acquisition, though softness in Consumer Health dampened the organic growth. Looking ahead, we expect Consumer Health to rebound in the second half of the fiscal year, bolstered by a new significant contract. Yet, challenges like under-absorbed capacity and previous one-time benefits have led to a 9% decline in EBITDA when compared to the same quarter last year.

Free Cash Flow Outlook Improves

We are now forecasting free cash flow to exceed $100 million for fiscal '24, a significant improvement from our initial projection of breaking even. This optimistic outlook aligns with our strategic financial and operational initiatives aimed at enhancing cash flow. Our cash and cash equivalents stand at $209 million as of the end of the quarter, with ongoing efforts to convert sizable contract assets into cash and to continue receiving payments from a key gene therapy customer who represents a significant portion of our business.

Steadfast in Fiscal 2024 Growth Projections

Despite early headwinds, we reaffirm our fiscal '24 guidance with net revenue expected to be between $4.3 billion and $4.5 billion, equating to a 3% growth at the midpoint. While we've revised our COVID revenue expectations upwards to $180 million, we continue to anticipate strong growth, particularly in our non-COVID Biologics portfolio. Our performance in the Biologics segment is forecasted to improve, and we are set on a strategic path to enhance margins, increase free cash flow, and solidify internal controls and forecasting processes. Our focus remains steadfast on delivering an improved overall performance as fiscal '24 progresses.

Earnings Call Transcript 2024-Q1

[Operator]

Hello all, and welcome to Catalent's First Quarter Fiscal Year 2024 Earnings Call. My name is [ Lydia ], and I will be your operator today. [Operator Instructions] I'll now hand you over to your host, Paul Surdez, Vice President of Investor Relations to begin. Please go ahead.

[Paul Surdez, executive]

Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us today to review Catalent's Preliminary First Quarter 2024 Financial Results. Joining me on the call are John Greisch, Executive Chair of the Board; Alessandro Maselli, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Matti Masanovich, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

During our call today, management will make forward-looking statements and refer to non-GAAP financial measures. It is possible that future results could differ from management's expectations, including as a result of the finalization of Catalent's fiscal 2023 and first quarter fiscal 2024 financial statements.

Please refer to Slide 2 of the supplemental presentation available on our Investor Relations website at investor.catalent.com for a discussion of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual performance or results to differ from what is suggested by those forward-looking statements and Slides 3 and 4 for a discussion of Catalent's use of non-GAAP financial measures.

Please also refer to Catalent's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2022, as amended; Catalent's quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the 3 and 9 months ended March 31, 2023; and our filings with the SEC for additional information [indiscernible] of the risks and uncertainties that may bear on our operating results, performance and financial condition.

Now I would like to turn the call over to John for some brief opening remarks before handing it to Alessandro. Commentary for these 2 presenters is covered on Slide 5.

[John Greisch, executive]

Thank you, Paul. Good morning, and thanks for joining us today. Before I turn the call over to Alessandro, I want to share a few comments on the quarter and on the progress our management team and strategic and operational review committee have made over the past 2.5 months toward achieving our goals.

As you saw in the earnings release, and we'll hear further from Alessandro, we have delivered a solid first quarter and are confirming our full year guidance. Given the turmoil in many of our markets, we are pleased on both fronts. In addition, Matti and his team have brought a renewed focus on cash flow and we are encouraged by already seeing benefits from improved working capital management and greater analytical rigor around CapEx spend thus far in the year.

I want to reiterate that we expect to catch up on our fiscal 2023 and first quarter 2024 SEC filings later this month. We've been working tirelessly to finalize these documents over the last couple of months. Matti will go into additional detail on this topic later in today's call.

Finally, I'd like to comment on the work underway by the Board's strategic and operational review committee. As you will recall, we formed a committee at the end of August to conduct a thorough review of our businesses, strategies, operations and capital allocation priorities with a view towards maximizing the long-term value of the company. Since then, the committee has made progress identifying and evaluating a number of options to maximize long-term value creation for shareholders.

We continue to work closely with Elliott as we thoroughly evaluate these strategic options, and we look forward to sharing a more detailed update with all of you at a later date.

Let me wrap up by emphasizing that the entire Catalent team is working hard to execute against our strategic plans in order to improve performance and create value. As you will hear today, we are confident in the value of opportunities that lie ahead and are pleased that our first quarter performance puts us on track to realize our 2024 plans.

With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Alessandro.

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. I'm proud of the work the Catalent team has done to deliver a strong start to our fiscal year '24. We delivered a solid financial performance in the first quarter, including a 5% non-COVID revenue growth while also progressing on all fronts with our operational improvements. .

I echo John's confidence in our plan, and I'm pleased to reaffirm our fiscal '24 guidance today. While the micro headwinds that we started to call out in November of last year are still present, the strength of our pipeline is bearing fruit, allowing us to continue to guide to a mid- to high-teens revenue growth rate this year when excluding COVID-related revenue.

Key factors underpinning our confidence include: continued high demand for our gene therapy services, expanded exposure to GLP-1 demand as we bring up more lines and a very strong rate of new approvals that we have seen in the Pharma and Consumer Health segment in this calendar year.

We continue to address underutilization at some of our new facilities, bolster our commercial efforts to accelerate new business wins and reduce our capital deployment in affected areas, all while focusing our CapEx on projects that leverage high-demand areas.

We also made the measurable progress in implementing operational improvements in our Biologics segment, resulting in favorable performance trends over the last few months and a quarterly sequential 1,400 basis points improvement in EBITDA margin.

We are committed to demonstrating what we believe is our unrivaled ability to run the best drug development and manufacturing facilities in the world, all to our investors and our customers. To help us achieve these goals, we recently appointed David McErlane as the Group President of our Biologics segment.

David, previously SVP of Lonza Bioscience business, is a seasoned and highly successful business leader with a record of developing winning strategies that drive growth and create significant value. We are energized by the immediate positive impact is already making on the business.

In Biologics, we have seen the impact of operational enhancement and strong commercial demand on our financial results. In the first quarter, our drug product business in Brussels and our gene therapy business in BWI each had a strong year-over-year and sequential growth as well as margin improvements.

As you know, the BWI facility serves multiple programs for our largest customer, Sarepta, as well as many programs for other customers. Our pipeline for gene therapy is healthy, including several programs in late stage, one of which was recently signed.

As a reminder, the late-stage programs are generally insulated from softness in the biotech funding environment. Our world-class team continues to ramp operations and work around the clock to meet Sarepta's demand and manufacturing goals. Sarepta has recently confirmed their scale-up plans for calendar 2024, firming up orders and we expect revenue from these top customers to grow approximately 65% this fiscal year as the we manufacture product for the U.S. market and the rest of the world to Sarepta and these partners.

Additionally, I'm very pleased with the progress we are making on our working capital initiatives, including contract assets, of which Matti will provide additional details.

In Bloomington, we continue to improve operational performance and we ramp up the assets needed to satisfy demand across multiple new products, including the GLP-1s. As a result of these multisite progress, we expect to exit the fiscal '24 with a more normalized prepandemic margins in the Biologics segment.

Moving to Pharma and Consumer Health. This segment delivered the first quarter in line with our expectations, with a solid organic growth when excluding our Consumer Health business. Revenue growth in the Consumer Health business is expected to decline in the first half of fiscal '24 and then return to growth in the third quarter.

This growth is driven in part by an impressive commercial win in the first quarter, a new strategic contract with one of the leading consumer health companies for our offering. This is in line with our strategy to leverage the Catalent brand to increase the penetration of the legacy business in the top global consumer health companies.

Winning this contract, this important contract while making progress on other exciting business development activities bolsters my confidence in our ability to achieve our goals for the PCH segment performance in fiscal '24 and beyond. Before I hand the call to Matti, I would like to touch on some important and exciting updates about the Biologics business on the commercial front.

Our exposure to the GLP-1 opportunity is rapidly growing. We are now forecasting that a larger majority of our current and future pre-filled since capacity coming online in fiscal '24 through fiscal '26 is expected to be booked soon in support of this exciting category of products, confirming our position as a leading CDMO in this space globally.

We have plans to accelerate our investments in this area within our existing sterile fill and finish facility in Bloomington and Anagni, including partnering with our customers. We believe we are only beginning to see the tailwinds from this category.

Just for reference, in fiscal '24, we expect revenues of less than $100 million from GLP-1 programs. Once all these lines I just referred to are completed and running at scale, we anticipate this product category to contribute well over $0.5 billion in revenue. As you all know, GLP-1s present an enormous opportunity for growth in the coming years. The major role that Catalent will play in bringing this important innovation to market, especially so soon after our contributions during the COVID pandemic, is a testament to our unique capabilities and positioning.

Catalent's Board and management team remain confident in the future of our company, as we continue to make strides towards improving our operations and bringing our margin performance back to pre-COVID level with urgency, while growing the exposure of the company in the most exciting areas of the biopharmaceutical service industry.

We remain focused on delivering value for all our shareholders by executing on our mission to improve the lives of patients every day.

I will now turn it to Matti for a discussion of our Q1 financial results.

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

Thank you, Alessandro. I'd like to begin with an update regarding the status of both our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended June 30, 2023, and quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the fiscal quarter ended September 30, 2023. While we have implemented improvements in our accounting and finance staffing and related closing processes, as we noted in our notification of late filing on Form 12b-25 filed on Monday, we were unable to file our 10-K and 10-Q on time.

We require additional time to complete procedures related to management's assessment of the effectiveness of our internal controls over financial reporting as of June 30, 2023, and other closing procedures. This has included procedures related to the management's assessment of the measurement and timing of a noncash goodwill impairment of approximately $700 million, which relates primarily to acquisitions in the company's consumer health and biomodalities reporting units in its Pharma and Consumer Health and Biologics segments, respectively.

Please note that for purposes of providing our preliminary first quarter fiscal '24 earnings, we have assumed that the noncash goodwill impairment will be included in our first quarter results. We are also incurring substantial time to review other closing procedures supporting our 10-K and 10-Q for both reporting periods. We expect to file the Form 10-K on or before November 27, and we expect to file Form 10-Q promptly following the filing of our 10-K.

Additionally, based on currently available information and subject to completion of our evaluation of the potential impairment charge as well as the preparation of our financial statements and assessment of our internal controls. We do not expect any material change to the financial results to be included in Form 10-K compared to the financial information reported in the preliminary earnings release Catalent furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K filed on August 29, 2023. We appreciate your patience as we work through and complete our closing procedures.

Moving on to our preliminary first quarter results. Starting with the consolidated numbers on Slide 6. Net revenue in the quarter was $982 million, down 4% on a reported basis and 6% on a constant currency basis compared to the prior first quarter. This decline is primarily attributed to the significant reduction in COVID revenue of approximately $85 million in the quarter as well as a onetime $30 million licensing fee in the prior year.

This was partially offset by constant currency revenue growth in the rest of Biologics of 11% and 5% in PCH. The Metrics acquisition, which is reported in the PCH segment and closed in October of 2022, accounted for 2% growth on a consolidated basis.

Our first quarter adjusted EBITDA decreased 38% to $115 million or a margin of 11.7% versus margin of 18.3% in the prior year quarter. On an organic basis, our first quarter adjusted EBITDA declined 45% compared to the first quarter of the prior year, primarily driven by a decline in COVID revenue.

I will speak further to the major drivers of these results in the segment commentary. Adjusted net loss was $19 million or a loss of $0.10 per diluted share compared to adjusted net income of $61 million or $0.34 per diluted share last year.

Reconciliations from GAAP net earnings to each of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net income are in the appendix into the slide deck. Excluded from adjusted net income are the noncash impairments totaling $700 million, I just reviewed.

Now I'll discuss our segment performance, where commentary around segment growth will be in constant currency. As shown on Slide 7, First quarter net revenue in our Biologics segment was $447 million, a 16% decrease compared to the prior year quarter.

The decline is primarily driven by significantly lower year-on-year COVA demand. First quarter COVID revenue of approximately $100 million represents a decline of approximately $85 million from the prior year period. On a non-COVID basis, Biologics revenue in the first quarter was in line with the first quarter of 2023.

When excluding the onetime $30 million licensing fee signed in the prior year, non-COVID year-on-year revenue growth in this segment is approximately 11%. This result was driven by double-digit revenue growth in gene therapy, non-COVID drug product and drug substance, offset by a decline in cell therapy.

The bar chart on Slide 7 illustrates the Biologics commercial and development revenue streams or the classification of development versus commercial is driven by the contractual language, which does not always align with the regulatory status of a given product.

The large drop in development revenue in the first quarter had 2 primary drivers. First, the year-on-year decline in COVID revenue that has been designated as development revenue. And second, a large gene therapy product whose revenue was treated as developed revenue a year ago is now treated as commercial revenue.

Moving to EBITDA. The Biologics segment's first quarter EBITDA was down $61 million year-over-year to $52 million, but was up $64 million sequentially from a $12 million loss in the fourth quarter. The sequential improvement from the fourth quarter to the first quarter is primarily a result of improved productivity and schedule adherence in the BWI and Brussels facilities.

Margin was 11.6% compared to 21.5% recorded in the prior year and up 1,400 basis points sequentially. The year-on-year drop in EBITDA margin was primarily driven by COVID declines as well as underutilization at new modality facilities, including our cell therapy business. We reduced our cell therapy cost structure during the quarter and expect improved performance in the second half of fiscal 2024.

Similarly, in Bloomington, we have formalized a transformation project that will help drive margin improvement this year and in the future. When combining these prudent actions and our projected increase in revenue growth, we expect our Biologics segment to improve margins on a year-over-year basis with a more pronounced impact as we exit the fiscal year.

Our non-COVID non-Sarepta Biologics business is expected to grow in the low- to mid-teens in fiscal '24 as we launch GLP-1 production, and bring on incremental capacity and improve productivity. Importantly, we have high visibility over this growth given the strong demand from customers.

As a result of our unique scale and capabilities in sterile fill finish, we continue to install and qualify new prefilled syringe lines in our global network and are excited to have more prefilled lines on order as part of our committed CapEx spend coming online in fiscal '25 and '26.

We believe this investment will drive a highly attractive return on capital for Catalent over the long term as we install and validate those lines in our existing facilities. As shown on Slide 8, our Pharma and Consumer Health segment generated net revenue of $535 million, an increase of $23 million or 5% compared to the prior year first quarter, with segment EBITDA of $101 million, down $10 million or a 9% decline over the same period.

The segment's revenue growth was primarily driven by the prior year's acquisition of Metrics. On an organic basis, the segment declined 1% as growth in prescription products and clinical supply services was outweighed by softness in consumer health.

We expect consumer health to decline in the first half of fiscal '24 and return to year-on-year growth in the second half of the year, in part due to the recently signed substantial contract with their premier consumer health company.

Adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.9% was lower by 280 basis points year-over-year from the 21.7% recorded in the prior first quarter. The decline was primarily related to underabsorbed capacity in the gummy network and the impact of a onetime $10 million insurance benefit received in the first quarter of fiscal '23.

PCH has strong underlying fundamentals and continues to perform at a high level. Slide 9 discusses our debt, debt maturities, related ratios and CapEx plans. Our debt load remains well structured and allows for good flexibility. Our nearest maturity is not until 2027. Our primary debt covenant is the ratio of net first lien debt over the trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA.

The covenant requires this ratio to remain below 6.5x and the September 30 actual level was 3.4x. Catalent's overall net leverage ratio as of September 30, 2023, was 7.4x, a sequential increase from the fourth quarter at 6.4x, driven by the lower year-on-year last 12 months adjusted EBITDA. Because the EBITDA portion of the net debt leverage ratio is calculated on an LTM basis, we expect this ratio to peak at the end of the second quarter due to the significant decline in COVID revenue on a year-over-year basis and then rapidly improve in the second half of the fiscal year back to the June 30, 2023, level, as our adjusted EBITDA recovers to more normalized levels.

One of our top priorities remains reducing our leverage. And as we disclosed last quarter, we are taking a number of steps to achieve this, including reducing working capital, ensuring that CapEx spend is aligned with our strategic initiatives with shorter payback periods and maximizing EBITDA with revenue growth and cost structure alignment initiatives.

With these initiatives underway, including the recent finalization of a contract amendment with one of our large customers in gene therapy, we expect to significantly improve our cash flow generation as we substantially reduce the level of contract assets. We now expect free cash flow to be in excess of $100 million in fiscal '24 versus our initial expectation of

We continue to identify opportunities to drive further free cash flow generation for the year. Our combined balance of cash and cash equivalents as of September 30, 2023, was $209 million, a decrease of $71 million from June 30, 2023. The decrease in cash was driven primarily by an increase in contract assets in the quarter related to the ramp-up of production to meet customer demand.

As of September 30, 2023, contract assets had a balance of $543 million, a sequential increase of $107 million and up $82 million year-on-year. Importantly, we expect the contract asset balance to decrease going forward.

At September 30, we had 1 strategic customer, a majority of whose business relates to our gene therapy platform that represented 30% of our $1.4 billion in aggregate net trade receivables and contract assets. We continue to convert the contracted assets to accounts receivable and receive timely payments from the customer. As such, we are very confident about the collectibility of our contract asset balance, the reduction of which will accelerate as a result of the previously mentioned contract amendment.

The same customer represented approximately 16% of consolidated revenue in the first quarter of fiscal '24 or approximately $155 million. We expect revenue contribution from this customer to also be approximately 16% of total consolidated revenue for the full fiscal year.

We have clear line of sight into this outlook given already committed orders. Finally, CapEx in the first quarter was $84 million. We continue to expect CapEx in fiscal '24 to be in the range of 8% to 10% of revenue, representing approximately $400 million.

Please now turn to our financial outlook for fiscal '24, as outlined on Slide 10. With 1/3 of the fiscal year behind us, we are confident in reiterating our fiscal '24 guidance, which includes net revenue in the range of $4.3 billion to $4.5 billion, representing growth of 3% at the midpoint. Adjusted EBITDA range from $680 million to $760 million and adjusted net income in the range of $113 million to $175 million. Our underlying assumptions are largely the same, with the exception that we now expect COVID revenue of approximately $180 million, $50 million more than our previous expectation of $130 million, roughly offsetting the COVID revenue increase are unfavorable FX rates in the euro and British pound.

As a reminder, our non-COVID business is expected to continue to deliver strong performance with full year revenue growth in the mid- to high-teens for the company. This is driven by roughly 30% growth in our non-COVID Biologics portfolio, including approximately 65% revenue growth from our largest customer, which at this point of the year is largely contracted.

Non-COVID non-Sarepta Biologics segment growth is expected to be low- to mid-teens, driven by tech transfer activities. In PCH, we continue to expect mid- to high single-digit growth. As we ramp up our non-COVID business and align our cost structure, we expect margins for the company and the Biologics segment to recover towards historical annual EBITDA margins as we exit fiscal '24. We forecast roughly 2/3 of consolidated adjusted EBITDA to be generated in the second half of the year.

As shared on our last call, the overall expected revenue split is more balanced with approximately 55% expected in the second half of 2024.

In closing, our priorities for fiscal '24 remain intact to improve our margins by supporting productivity and cost alignment plans to deliver incremental free cash flow by lowering the company's working capital intensity and maximizing commercial opportunities; and finally, to strengthen our internal controls and processes over financial reporting and forecasting. With thorough careful analysis and disciplined execution of our cost structure, we are making steady progress against these initiatives and are optimistic in our continuously improving performance throughout fiscal year 2024.

Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks. We'd now like to open the call for questions.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from Tejas Savant of Morgan Stanley.

[Tejas Savant, analyst]

Alessandro, one on Sarepta for you to kick things off. You've talked in the past of not peaking in the label expansion for into your forecast. Sarepta, I think, as you alluded to, said they want to manufacture in anticipation of the unrestricted label ahead of that FDA decision.

So how should we think about the implications of that in terms of perhaps potential upside for you in your FY '24 guide? Does the $700 million-or-so that you're baking in for Sarepta the midpoint factor this in, in light of your comments that I think you said you're starting to get orders from Sarepta now for that incremental production?

And then in terms of the potential downside to fiscal '25 if the FDA doesn't allow for label expansion. Any sort of framework that you can help us think through that dynamic here?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Sure. Hi, everyone. Look, this is a good question. I would tell you, overall, the way I'll characterize the relationship with Sarepta, there is a lot of positive momentum into the relationship. When you think about, number 1, our performance, really -- our Q1 performance was really underpinned by a strong operational performance at our BWI facility, where we support Sarepta and even to these amounts have been even more reassuring that we are on the right path from an operational performance standpoint.

The contract amendment that Matti mentioned, which will really allow us now to normalize more the time to cash profile of this important contracts, which in terms will reduce contract assets, improve cash flow, really also the firm demand that we've seen in the recent weeks.

So going to your question, really, look, our job is to continue to leverage the capacity that we have deployed, the suites with which we are supporting the customer, continue to now sustain this very good level of performance, which is the one that will allow us to satisfy this demand.

And in terms of your -- last part of your question in terms of you -- I will not speculate, of course, on the label expansion of FDA, it's not my place to do so. But in terms of making your model and working through your model, I will remind that as we disclosed indeed 50% of the revenues our pass-through revenues coming at fairly low margin with a mid- to high single-digit margin, but these are materials and testing services we buy on behalf of the customer. So this could -- I believe it can be helpful in modeling this out.

[Tejas Savant, analyst]

Got it. That's actually helpful. And then I want to ask one on just ex COVID, ex Sarepta growth on a sequential basis. Just doing some quick math here. It sounds like you guys had about $235 million in Biologics revenue last quarter that went to about maybe $185-ish million this quarter.

And so can you just walk us through the moving pieces there? I know you gave color year-over-year, but just sequentially. And I know you got the fill/finish capacity utilization for COVID here. Did that play a role in this or was it sort of some of the cell therapy work declining?

And then on your comment on the significant GLP-1 ramp over the next couple of fiscal years for you here. Any color on the slope of that increase and at the cadence at which you expect this new capacity to come online?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Yes, sure. Look, I'm going to cover the GLP-1, and then hand over to Matti to give you some Q1. But when it comes to GLP-1, I would say for this fiscal year, it's fundamentally a second half story, right? The second half is really when the commercial production is going to start coming on the -- on some of the new assets. .

I would also add that, as I said, we expect significant new capacity coming online between fiscal '24 and fiscal '26. And probably the way you should be thinking about this is probably that each of these given years, we're going to more than double the capacity that is going to be deployed against the GLP-1, so any given year.

So there are a lot of lines that are already installed, and they have been qualified. So some of them will come to the end of this fiscal year, full strength next year. There is the phasing. The next year is really going to be a full year story, not only H2. And so I believe that assuming that there will be more than doubling the capacity available for this demand and the fact that we have a very strong visibility to the demand can be helpful for you to understand the ramp.

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

Yes. So I think so Biologics non-COVID revenue and then stripping out the $30 million licensing fee from the prior year quarter were up 11%. So I think I put that in the script, and I think I talked about that, but maybe you didn't pick it up, but we can we can reconcile...

[Tejas Savant, analyst]

No, I was just talking about the sequential trends there, Matti, what happened in 4Q versus 1Q, not year-over-year.

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

So fourth quarter. So clearly, our BWI business has really kind of come -- has bounced back and then Brussels continue to improve. And so those were the 2 primary businesses with BWI being the gene therapy business with our ramp-up, as I discussed in the script, it -- obviously, our PWI gene therapy business is well up.

[Operator]

Our next question today comes from Luke Sergott of Barclays.

[Luke Sergott, analyst]

Great. I just kind of want to dig in here on the overall gene therapy franchise and how big this is for you. I know that you have you guys have always bucketed it as your mAbs and the other drivers of indications. And it would kind of be helpful as you think about the rest of the gene therapy business outside of the Sarepta 900 on drug?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Hi, look, thanks. This is Alessandro. Look, first of all, let me clarify. Our protein business is not classified under gene therapy, we call it a drug substance. And thanks for the question because we are having a very good year in drug substance. And I do believe there is good momentum going forward there.

We had a lot of happening in that business over the last several years. And now it seems that the harvest time is coming with a significant amount of late-stage program heading to work commercialization. Some of them very exciting have been acquired Pharma, so they have extended patient populations.

So very exciting areas for us drug substance and I believe will be a great contributor as we go forward. In terms of the gene therapy business, as I said, that we have a pretty balanced portfolio.

Number one, with Sarepta as well, we have several programs with them, some of them very exciting. But also there is -- I've seen some good momentum there. Some programs getting some early -- very good clinical data which made the customers more bullish in moving full steam ahead in scaling up.

So look, the buyback funding environment, it is what it is. We were the first one to go it out 1 year ago, still remains a little bit uncertain. But when you look at our own portfolio and our own pipeline, I feel pretty good about it. the cell therapy story remains a little bit one where we have reviewed our outlook there. We have reassessed our outlook and so as Matti said, we take an opportunity to want to really rebalance the absorption there. And this will be a driver of margin improvement going forward. because now we're going to suffer by much less underutilization and negative EBITDA impact there. So hopefully, this gives you a little bit of color across all the different subsegments.

[Luke Sergott, analyst]

Yes, that helps. And then I guess on the Biologics, there's elevated pass-through coming through here. You have the GLP-1, you have the pens also with the Sarepta you guys kind of called that out. Can you update like how much of the business comes from the sourcing? And then are you seeing a similar margin that you have in the past there? Or is this going to be elevated like we saw with the COVID sourcing?

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

When you think of the Biologics business and the pass-through revenue, Sarepta has about a 50% pass-through content and that's materials and testing. The balance of the business is between, I would say, 15% to 20% is where it sits from a pass-through perspective. And the margins are a little bit different.

Margins are pretty low, as we articulated on the -- as Alessandro articulated on the Sarepta piece. And they're probably, I would say, mid mid-single digits to mid-teen digits on the margins on the balance of the business of that 15% to 20%.

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

And I just would add one other element of color there, drug product is very different from drug substance, in general, when it comes to material pass-through.

Not necessarily the materials are less expensive, but most of the times, they are bought by the customers, not by us. So the don't affect revenues that don't affect our margin.

[Operator]

Our next question today comes from Dave Windley of Jefferies.

[David Windley, analyst]

I hope you can hear me. I'm in a hotel basement. Can you hear me?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

It sounds good, Dave.

[David Windley, analyst]

Okay. All right. So my question is maybe a follow-on to Tejas' earlier question, but a broader one. The company let's call it, pre-pandemic, used to talk about the diversity of the platform, 7,000 products, no one product really makes up a substantial percentage of revenue doesn't move the needle necessarily.

And you're moving into a period where not 2 products very substantially move the needle. I guess what I'm also thinking is that again, related to Tejas' question, Sarepta has a label expansion kind of optionality element to it and the GLP-1s have oral delivery of GLP-1 data readouts coming out. So how do you think about the concentration of those revenue streams in your business and risk mitigating that in the potential that both of them could see headwinds from developments in the pipeline?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Yes, sure. So Dave, a couple of things. First of all, you're calling out 2 of the key, I would say, dynamic of our industry overall, surely GLT1 being one. And I feel very proud and look excited that Catalent was able to have such an exposure to that. So I don't see that necessarily under negative terms is great, and it's something that can be applied across several therapeutic dynamics therapeutic areas as dynamics across different geographies.

So I would say it's a little bit of a different element compared to the gene therapy program that you have mentioned. With regards of -- so -- and so it's such that you're also going forward because of the different therapeutic areas, the different potential indication, extension of indications of GLP-1s, I don't see that category to be a significant element of volatility, so to speak.

Our job there, I believe, is to continue to do a great job for our customer, continue to bring the capacity online and the rest will come pretty much as a consequence. I don't believe personally that total will be a significant competitor of injection for the time being. I -- when you think about that in the current form like peptides, the bioavailability is not that high. So there is a lot of API there. There are studies out there that are showing a much more API you need in the oral delivery versus injectables.

So I do believe that it's going to be, for the time being, an injectable story personally. And with regards of how we are approaching this look, for me, the important thing is that we understand the dynamics, we understand the market that we position ourselves a little bit in the middle of the range.

We don't expect in our projections, everything to be going in the right direction and leaving that as an upside. We position ourselves in a, I would say, a prudent way when it comes to these dynamics so that we have a good set of different options to continue to grow the company in line with expectations.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Justin Bowers of Deutsche Bank.

[Justin Bowers, analyst]

So just wanted to get a little clarity on some of the prepared remarks. With respect to GLP-1s, I think you said $100 million this year. Is that incremental over next -- sorry, over last year or is that total? And can you sort of give us a sense of what the order of magnitude was in FY 2023?

And then I think you said sort of a $500 million run rate number. And is that sort of like the targeted exit rate in FY 2026 or is that sort of the contribution from the incremental capacity coming online? And then I think you said most of that you have firm orders for. So do you have protection for that, i.e., some sort of take-or-pay arrangement?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Great question. So first of all, yes, look, we said that this year is going to be below $100 million. We didn't say $100 million. And this for sure, one of the contributors of the non-COVID non-Sarepta growth in Biologics, right?

So because so far, there's been a more tech transfer work and now it's becoming commercial work. So first of all, it is contributing to our growth outlook. And as I said, it's more an H2 story than an H1 story. So it's also helping with what you see as a ramp H2 versus H1.

With regards of the long-term outlook, I said that it's going to be well over $0.5 billion. I gave a little bit of color around the timeframe. And to be quite honest, with your question around the demand, I see for this franchise, the capacity is bigger the constraining factor rather than the demand.

So it's going to be really depending on our ability to bring capacity as fast as possible. We are seeing a very high level of interest and demand for these assets and really is 1 where capacity is going to be the constraining factor on all the fronts. And I believe that the runway goes beyond the '26 timeframe that we have highlighted here. So all in all, is a very exciting space to be in.

[Justin Bowers, analyst]

And then just a quick follow-up on the gene therapy franchise. Can you talk a little bit about the dynamics ex Sarepta? I.e., are there other programs in your pipeline that are advancing through different stages? And then with respect to the top customer, are you ramping up additional production throughout the year or is this just sort of a conversion of things in flight with the existing outlook?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Yes. Look, first part of the question, as I said in my prepared remarks that the pipeline is healthy both with the additional program with our biggest customer but also with other customers.

As I said, we signed recently another late-stage program and the clinical data on that program looks very, very exciting. So -- and impact on patients is -- it could be great. So it's also in line with our patients first. So I would define the pipeline in gene therapy as healthy. And I will also tell you that in gene therapy, the capacity it's easier to redeploy compared to other technologies.

Normally, in gene therapy, you have a suites, but you have most of the units are mobile units. So it's very easy to reconfigure the capacity compared to other technologies, at least for the way we have designed our facility. We make them very, very fungible across different type of products.

And with regards to the profile of this, look, we -- there is the physical capacity and there is the productivity that you can achieve. We are ramping, right? So our physical capacity is fully deployed, fully staffed, fully equipped. But clearly, we are a ramp of productivity. As you know, we come from a very difficult spot during the spring because of some of the challenges we have disclosed.

And now we have an exciting ramp. So I will tell you that we are ahead of the ramp that I had in mind at the beginning of this fiscal year, but there will continue to be progress as we go through the year. So the more we improve our output, the more demand we will be able to satisfy for our customers. As we said, the visibility on this demand is pretty high at this point of the year, as Matti shared.

[Operator]

The next question in the queue today comes from Jack Meehan of Nephron Research.

[Jack Meehan, analyst]

First, I was wondering if you could just elaborate on the factors that are leading the strategic review to take a bit longer, at least versus what I was expecting. Last quarter, the word urgent was used multiple times. And I was expecting some sort of update here. Can you just maybe talk about anything you can share?

[John Greisch, executive]

Yes, Jack, this is John. So if you think about the committee that we formed a couple of months ago, and we've got 2 new Directors and 2 of our legacy Directors plus myself on it. And I'd say the 3 top priorities of the activities of the committee have been to focus on operational improvements, along with Alessandro and the team, focus on cash flow improvements and focus on capital structure improvements over time.

As you saw and heard in the comments, Alessandro and the team continue to drive operational performance and cash flow improvements in a way that gives us a lot of confidence for the rest of this year. So I think the first 2 priorities were to get the company back on track out of the surprise mode, which we've been in for the last several quarters and deliver on the commitments that the team's laid out.

I think they've done a heck of a job doing that as we start fiscal '24. The committee, along with our partners at Elliott, are evaluating several strategic options to address the capital structure improvements over time, with the sense of urgency. We spent a heck of a lot of time getting everybody up to speed on where we are.

It's an area where we don't want a ready, fire, aim. And with the operational improvements and the cash flow improvements we're out of what may have been perceived by some as crisis mode and in a position where we can thoughtfully evaluate those options going forward.

In addition to the committee, and the full Board, Alessandro and I spent a lot of time with our partners at Elliott evaluating those options, and we don't have anything to announce today. But as noted, we'll provide updates if and once specific decisions are made by the Board. So I think that the near-term operational improvements, cash flow improvements, hear from Matti, we've improved our free cash flow outlook for the full year, and then made some great moves along those lines as well as the operational improvements, you heard from Alessandro, those are on track.

Capital structure over time, we'll address it. But we're not ready to announce any decisions today, but we'll do so once the Board and Alessandro and team make those decisions.

[Jack Meehan, analyst]

Okay. I appreciate that feedback. And a question for Matti. On the GLP-1s, can you talk about the returns you're expecting on this additional prefilled syringe full finished capacity you're adding I'm having investors e-mail me for a little bit more detail on that? I know you said it would be attractive, but just any context would be great.

[Unknown Executive]

I really can't. I mean, I think Alessandro laid it out, we're in the stage of trying to book that business. And so I think it'd be a good idea for me to disclose the returns and looking at from a pricing perspective, so but I can tell you that it will be very attractive for Catalent overall.

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

I would look to say that we have we have configured this franchise with lines which are twin of each other. So our ability to continue to deploy the product across multiple lines is on an accelerated fashion because we're just going to somewhat content based what we have learned in the first track transfers. So you can expect that the ramp to revenues on the new assets are coming online is going to be is going to be faster. And that's the #1 factor that affects your return and the margin. But as Matti said, we expect the margin to be attractive.

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

The thing I'd say is from a ramp-up perspective. I think the company has proven itself. You look at what it did with COVID and the ramp-up of COVID and needing the COVID demand, the company has a proven track record to ramp up quickly and ramp up its facilities quickly to deliver. And I think leveraging that experience of the company into the GLP-1 opportunity is significant.

[Operator]

The next question comes from John Sourbeer of UBS.

[John Sourbeer, analyst]

Two questions here. First one on COVID. Just any way to quantify what the COVID margin contribution was in the quarter? And COVID came in quite a bit ahead of our expectations. You raised the guidance there. Any color on just the pacing there for the remainder of the year?

[Paul Surdez, executive]

Yes, COVID will have a somewhat negligible impact in the back half of the year. So I think it's going to come down. The first half of the year is when we'll experience most of the COVID demand. There is some demand in the back half of the year. And as for margins, that's not something that we've disclosed historically and doesn't want to disclose the margins on the COVID business. But -- so I'd say that -- that's about as far as I can go from a COVID perspective, but COVID is becoming a less and less important part of the business for us.

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Yes. I would just add, look, compared to anemic levels, surely not as attractive because the portfolio is more complex to have a lot of absorption because auto volume is much lower. So the current level of the margins from COVID should be not even close to where they were in the pandemic time.

[John Sourbeer, analyst]

Great. Appreciate it. And second question here also, I guess, on margins. And you gave some color earlier on Sarepta margin. But I guess when you remove the raw material pass-throughs there, maybe just on the gene therapy or drug substance business, in general, how do we think about the -- and remove other passes? How do you think about the margin profile on drug substance versus fill/finish and any differentials there?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

So look, I would tell you that across the board of the drug substance these gene therapy, protein MAbs pretty much in the same zip code where you cut out the material pass-through using right? You have such a higher pass through to all think gets lower. But on the pure services side, I would say that there is pretty much a good alignment across the drug substance. I would say the drug product, there's a little bit of a different dynamic where the margin really depends being a very high-volume commercial industrial production system is very, very dependent on absorption, right?

And so the margin itself of the product, I would say, of the products we run, it's -- I mean, it's not big range, but there are products like the vaccines or the GLP-1s that because of the volume, they can drive a lot of absorption and a lot of margin at least.

[Operator]

Our next question today comes from Max Smock of William Blair.

[Max Smock, analyst]

Congrats on the nice update. Just looking through Sarepta filing, it seems like R&D on has been about 4x as much as R&D on some of their other gene therapy programs. Just wondering if based on this, is it fair to assume that something like 75% of total Sarepta revenue for you is tied to.

and then in terms of that spend, is there any detail you can give us around what your fiscal 2024 revenue outlook that's tied to translates to from a dose perspective? I think there's quite a bit of uncertainty still out there in terms of how much it cost to manufacture the annual -- or the actual gene therapy. So any context there would be great.

[Paul Surdez, executive]

So from an overall perspective, we disclosed the Sarepta revenue, and you can get to the math, if you leave the script, but it's about 90% of the revenue is so it's 9001. So the lion's share, by far, the lion's share of the revenue of Sarepta.

We do have other programs that are being developed are in development, and we'll begin to grow more rapidly as we go forward. As far as doses in patients, that's not something that we've commented on. And I don't think it's -- and I'll start it off and defer to you, but we fill an order that we're given by a customer.

And that customer -- or that's our -- that's what we do now. we study the market, we do look around quarters, and we do assess it. But that's not that I think we're going to discuss today.

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Well said.

[Max Smock, analyst]

Understood. Just to clarify, you said 90% ELEVIDYS?

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

Yes, 90%. Yes, you can get to that mass [indiscernible]

[Max Smock, analyst]

Yes. Okay. Perfect. And then just following up a clarifying one. You mentioned a couple of minutes ago that it's easy to reconfigure the gene therapy capacity and that capacity is pretty fungible. I just wanted to confirm, you're saying it's easy to reconfigure for other gene therapy programs, right?

And then while that may be the case, given some of the macro headwinds that we've seen, which I think most people would acknowledge have had an outsized impact on the broader cell and gene therapy space. How should we think about your ability to backfill that capacity of Sarepta's label doesn't actually end up getting expanded?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Yes. Look, first of all, I personally don't see these retain dynamic as you guys are depicting either extended or non-extended, but I leave it like that. I believe there is a spectrum there that is more than just binary. That's being said, surely, it's the most fixed part of infrastructure are the suites.

And the suites are designed in a way that can serve a number of different processes both to define the processes at the manufacturing units that are within the suites, and they are mostly mobile. So you can reconfigure them in pretty easily. So -- so fundamentally, is one of those facilities that we have in the network, which have the highest grade of easiness to reconfigure and to be redeployed towards other programs should we need to do so. At the moment, honestly, I don't have any visibility that we have to do so because we remain focused working around the clock to satisfy the demand of Sarepta.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Derik De Bruin of Bank of America.

[Derik De Bruin, analyst]

Just one clarifying question to start with, and I've got a couple of others. So what was embedded originally in your guide for 2024 for Sarepta from a dollar amount? And sort of like what's the incremental that's here now? Just wanted to get some math a little bit all over the place. So that's the first part. .

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

From our original guidance today, it's remained unchanged.

[Derik De Bruin, analyst]

It's unchanged. So you'd already assumed that was going -- Great. Okay. That's what I thought. Just wanted to make sure. And how should we think about PCH margins progressing from here? A little bit lower than we thought in the quarter. How should we think about that moving?

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

PCH margins sequentially will go up through the year and the natural seasonality to the business model that they run and the business they bring in. In addition, we do have some cost structure initiatives going into PCH. And we also noted this new gummy contract, it was one with a a very substantial contract that was the one that will launch in the third quarter and be into our run rate in the fourth quarter. So we do believe that we've got the opportunity to generate those margins on a sequential and improvement basis.

[Derik De Bruin, analyst]

Great. And then just one final one. So I'm looking at the consensus estimates for fiscal '25. The Street roughly as you increasing EBITDA by 35%. So that's call it, a 16% margin at the midpoint of your current guide, that's 21-ish percent for fiscal '25.

I mean is that sort of 500 basis point gain in EBITDA margins realistic for next year, given where you see the business right now? And I ask this because I thinking the margin contribution on the Sarepta business was going to be a lot higher than it actually turns out to be. So just wondering any thoughts on how we should sort of think about EBITDA margin progression as we're exiting 2024?

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

We talked about our exit run rate being more in line in our fourth quarter, more in line with our historic average. And so I think that's the best guidepost I can give you. We're not going to give a '25 update today or kind of look beyond the full year year-to-date for fiscal fiscal year '24. But I think that's a good guidepost to use if we get to that exit run rate that we talked about, you can use that as a benchmark to jump off from.

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

And the one point I can to reiterate once again, our margin reduction this year is not due to a portfolio shift, it's due to an operational dislocation, which we have shared multiple times. And as John said, we have shared in these remarks, we are making very good progresses in addressing that. And probably the progress is that are faster than our initial expectations. So when you combine these 2 factors, you can make your own assessment.

[Operator]

The next question today comes from Paul Knight of KeyBanc.

[Paul Knight, analyst]

Regarding Sarepta on next year, your lot is booked through your fiscal year ending June, what portion of -- when does the second half of '24 get booked? And -- meaning when do we get your FY '25 Sarepta book? Is it starting now? What visibility do you have beyond June of 2024 on Sarepta?

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

Yes. I think we've discussed at a high level, we've had customer conversations around it, but we discussed how we actually book production. So our production is booked on a rolling 6-month basis. So that's why we feel really confident to how '24 is going to finish. And as we think about the Sarepta readout and Alessandro made comments to his view on the where it's not maybe as binary as some are thinking.

So I do think that's the comment I can give you on it. But we just specific we get the orders is on a rolling 6-month basis. [indiscernible] this year. So as we work through this year, we'll get firmer orders at rolling to '25.

[Paul Knight, analyst]

Okay. And then regarding Brussels, you commented that, that was improving. Is that due to the biotech demand? Is it GLP-1s? Is it cell therapy? What's making Brussel improve?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

So Brussel is a drug product facility, right? And yes, there is a GLP demand there, it's no secret secrete. It's a public available information. Clearly, I believe that in general, as we said before, the site is sitting on a very level of demand because that has been posed in production for some time in the last fiscal year. right, was a big drain on our margin last year and is going back, right?

So it's a fully utilized because we have backlog to recover on, it's going to take significant time. And yes, there is a lot of GLP demand. And I would tell you that the site is performing really well in satisfying the demand.

[Operator]

The next question comes from Eric Coldwell of Baird.

[Eric Coldwell, analyst]

I wanted to hit on 2 topics. The first is coming back to the COVID revenue. Sorry, if I missed this, but did you comment on how the $100 million of Q1 revenue compared to your prior expectations or what was originally embedded in Street guidance? And then what changed to drive that upside or -- and/or the increase for the full year on the COVID side?

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

I think when we guided for COVID, I think we took a fairly conservative assumption on COVID, not knowing where the season was going to go, number one. But we don't provide, as you know, individual guidance from quarter perspective. But I'd say that it's come in stronger or it will come in strong in the first half, as I mentioned, it's just not as important to the back half of the year from a COVID perspective -- from a cd revenue perspective and what we're seeing today.

Now as the season plays out this year, that's going to dictate demand at the end of our fiscal year, our fourth quarter or second quarter calendar year next year, and we would be able to have more visibility as we work through the tail end of the COVID season here in our second quarter and calendar year fourth quarter. And I think it will dictate the season for next year.

[Eric Coldwell, analyst]

Okay. And then on second topic on the gummy award. Just hoping we could get a little more on the nature of the award. Was that an expansion with an existing customer, a new relationship with a new customer? Was it a competitive takeaway from external or internal manufacturing? And finally, are these new launches from the partner? Or maybe that ties back to where this production is coming from that you have been awarded any additional details on timing or sizing? I know you said 3Q start, but it sounds like a pretty substantial deal for a segment that's been challenged. So I'm surprised it hasn't gotten a little more attention today.

[Matti Masanovich, executive]

Yes. The gummy market has been down and continues to trend down the markets contained down. This is a share gain. This is a new business for us from this customer. It's an already existing product. and it's going to fit in perfectly into our network. We don't know have to add any SG&A per se on top of it, and it fits into the existing gummy network that we have in the open capacity that we have.

So it's a kind of what I'd say is a no-brainer, has got reasonably good margins for a business perspective, it's got a very quick payback. So I think overall, it's a big way. doesn't require much CapEx either to go in. So it's pretty impressive.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Rachel Vatnsdal of JPMorgan.

[Rachel Vatnsdal Olson, analyst]

Great. Just one for me on PCH. So last year, you continuously flagged some of the inventory destocking, consumer discretionary spending headwinds -- so can you walk us through, are you still seeing some of those headwinds impacting that business? And then just a follow-up on the earlier question around that commercial win on the gummy side. If we exclude that commercial win, how should we think about growth in consumer this year?

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

So look, let me cover the first part of the question in terms of headwinds, as we said in the prepared remarks, some of some of the macro environment that we have highlighted in November last year are still present. And we continue to see some prudent spend on side of our especially early stage, right, the early stage customers are very prudent in progressing assets through the pipeline, given the environment.

The consumer environment is still not as it was before. But the reason why we have, in our own shop excitement about the way we're going to continue to grow the company on an ex COVID basis is two-folds, really, right? So first of all, it's the pipeline, right?

In PCH, we had a lot of products being approved some [indiscernible] which will drive a lot of growth in our pharmaceutical commercial business. and share gain, right? We knew that over time, our existing relationship with a large consumer company which were not necessarily the natural market for those customers because of the relationship we have with Catalent in our brand will find with end up coming with us.

So we have a little bit of a trend that is better than the market because of these main dynamics. And that's why we are confident about the ramp and the profile of the business as we go through the fiscal '24.

[Operator]

Our last question today comes from Sean Dodge of RBC Capital Markets.

[Thomas Kelliher, analyst]

This is Thomas Kelliher on for Sean. And apologies if he's recovered disconnected earlier. But I wanted to go back to the just tech transfers in Bloomington, should we just consider these complete? Or are there still some hurdles you need to clear to get these into full production? Any more detail there would be helpful.

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Well, first of all, I never said the Bloomington, right? So it's -- and we already said in previous calls that some of those relationships are extended and expanded. So I would say that now this is something that is really touching all our network when it comes to sterile product, and we feel pretty good about it because it's really the way we want to serve our customers with a network approach, not a site approach, which gives us a lot of flexibility and a lot of optionality for customers.

So first of all, it's across network. And yes, I do believe that those tech transfer activities could be deemed largely done, of course, on the first line. So there will be more coming on the additional lines. But as I said, it's much easier because these are like-for-like assets to the current ones. And so yes, we're now going to start in the second half of the year in ramping up commercial volumes and really giving more supply to our customers.

[Operator]

We have no further questions in the queue. So I'll turn the call back over to CEO, Alessandro Maselli, for any closing remarks.

[Alessandro Maselli, executive]

Thank you, everyone, for taking the time to join our call today. We are pleased to have delivered the solid financial performance this quarter while making operational improvement. At the same time, the strength of our pipeline and new commercial wins increase our confidence in fiscal '24 guidance, which we have reaffirmed. We remain focused on restoring Catalent's historical margins while driving the sustainable and profitable growth, increasing shareholder value and executing on our mission to improve the lives of patients every day. Thank you.

[Operator]

This concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.