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Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q1

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Operator

Hello, and welcome, everyone, to the First Quarter Fiscal 2023 Earnings Call for Commercial Metals Company. Today's material, including the press release and supplemental slides that accompanies today's call can be found on the CMC Investors Relations website. Today's call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would like to remind all participants that during the course of this conference call that the company may make statements that provide information other than historical information that will include expectations regarding the economic conditions, effects of legislation, U.S. steel import levels, U.S. construction activity, demand for finished steel products, the expected capabilities and benefits of new facilities, the company's future operations, the time line for execution of the company's growth plan, the company's future results of operations, financial measures and capital spending.

These and other similar statements are considered forward looking and may involve certain assumptions and speculation and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these expectations. These statements reflect the company's beliefs based on the current conditions that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, including those that are described in the Risk factors and forward-looking statement section of the company's latest filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company's annual report on Form 10-K.

Although these statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, CMC offers no assurance that these expectations or beliefs will prove to be correct, and actual results may vary materially. All statements made only of this date, except as required by law. CMC does not assume any obligation to update, amend or clarify these statements in connection with future events, changes in assumptions, the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events, new information or circumstances or otherwise.

Some numbers presented will be non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations for such numbers can be found in the company's earnings release, supplemental slides, presentation or on the company's website. Unless otherwise stated, all references made to the year or quarter end are references to the company's fiscal year or fiscal quarter. And now for the opening remarks and introductions, I would now like to turn the call over to Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer of Commercial Metals Company, Ms. Barbara Smith.

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Barbara Smith
executive

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining CMC's first quarter Earnings Conference Call. I hope each of you had a wonderful holiday season. As we reported in our press release issued this morning, fiscal 2023's first quarter was another outstanding period, marking the second best core EBITDA performance in our company's history. I would like to thank CMC's 12,000 employees who made these results possible. Your hard work and focused efforts are appreciated and are the driving force behind CMC's success.

I will start today's call with a few comments on CMC's first quarter performance, then discuss our key strategic growth investments and sustainability efforts before providing an update on the current market environment. Paul Lawrence will cover the quarter's financial information in more detail, and I will then conclude with our outlook for the second fiscal quarter, after which we will open the call to questions.

Before starting my prepared remarks, I would like to direct listeners to the supplemental slides that accompany this call. The presentation can be found on CMC's Investor Relations website. As I noted, CMC's first quarter fiscal 2023 earnings were among the strongest in our company's 108-year history. We achieved net earnings of $261.8 million or $2.20 per diluted share on net sales of $2.2 billion. Excluding the impact of mill operational start-up costs incurred at our Arizona 2 project, adjusted earnings from continuing operations were $266.2 million or $2.24 per diluted share.

CMC generated core EBITDA for the quarter of $425 million, an increase of 30% from a year ago, which produced an annualized return on invested capital of 23%. Results for our North America segment were again exceptional as our team capitalized on strong demand. Segment adjusted EBITDA was within 1% of its record, excluding the impact of our second quarter 2022 California land sale. We continued to experience strong margins on sales of steel and downstream products during the quarter, which drove meaningful year-over-year earnings growth.

Our Europe segment performed well despite a challenging economic backdrop, generating adjusted EBITDA more than double the past 10 years' quarterly average. Facing well-publicized economic headwinds associated with the ongoing energy crisis, our team in Poland leveraged their excellent cost structure to profitably win share and maintain strong volume levels. Reflecting on the quarter as a whole, CMC encountered sharply different market environments within its 2 segments with tailwinds in North America and headwinds in Europe and demonstrated that we are capable of performing well in both environments.

Our business model and well-aligned strategies have provided us the ability to fully capitalize on opportunities when they are available or adapt and adjust quickly when challenges arise. I would now like to discuss CMC's strategic growth investments, specifically our exciting greenfield mill projects. Our Arizona 2 micro mill project is on track for a start-up later this spring. As I mentioned previously, we incurred start-up costs during the first quarter as we train and build our crews and begin to commission the new equipment.

We are excited to begin commissioning and look forward to providing updates as the process evolves. Once AZ 2 is ramped up, CMC will be operating one of the most unique steelmaking complexes anywhere in the world. Not only will we achieve another industry first by producing merchant bar on a micro mill, but we will also have co-located 2 of our micro mills in a unique configuration. We expect this arrangement of the 2 steel plants will provide synergies, including shared staff support, production optimization, improved production scheduling and shared site infrastructure.

Arizona 2's commissioning looks to be well timed with the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which should begin to increase public infrastructure construction later this calendar year. We intend to focus initially on ramping up rebar production with the commissioning of merchant products to follow soon after. Currently, we expect to produce a mix of approximately 2/3's rebar and 1/3 merchant bar on an annual run rate basis. Of course, as we have mentioned previously, Arizona 2 will have the operational flexibility to seamlessly adjust its production mix based on market demand.

Turning to CMC's other organic growth projects. We announced in early December that our fourth micro mill will be located in Berkeley County, West Virginia. The site selection process took longer than anticipated, but we are confident that CMC has chosen an excellent location within a state that is supportive of manufacturing innovation. I'd like to thank Governor Jim Justice and the entire West Virginia economic development team and the dedicated Berkeley County staff for their support during the site selection process and their ongoing assistance as we become an important member of the community.

During the planning phase, we have been referring to this growth initiative as MM4. I'm happy to say that after formalizing our site choice, we will now rebrand our mill as CMC Steel West Virginia. The mill is expected to have an annual capacity of approximately 500,000 tons and will be capable of producing both straight length and spooled rebar. The new plant will feature the latest productivity-enhancing technologies for micro mill steelmaking including Danieli's Q-One power system that we first deployed in Arizona, making CMC Steel West Virginia one of the cleanest and most energy-efficient mills in the world.

The planned site location on West Virginia's Eastern Panhandle will provide excellent access to the dense rebar consuming markets of the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic. Nearly 60 million people live within a standard shipping radius of this site, providing a variety of commercial opportunities across a number of major metropolitan areas. As can be seen on Slide 6 of the supplemental presentation, the site is also ideal for optimization of CMC's existing operational network in the Eastern United States. We expect to generate synergies through reduced logistics cost, optimize production mix across mills, lower levels of safety stock and improved customer service capabilities.

The project is budgeted to have a net cost of approximately $450 million based on anticipated time lines for permitting and construction. Plant is scheduled to begin operation in late calendar 2025. These 2 projects strongly advance CMC's strategy of leadership in early phase construction reinforcement. We also believe they will provide meaningful value accretive earnings and cash flow growth for our investors.

In addition to our organic growth projects, we continue to be very encouraged with the integration process of our Tensar acquisition, and Paul will discuss the financial contributions a little later. During the quarter, we acquired 2 scrap recycling facilities, and we are happy to welcome these employees to CMC. Both acquisitions support our captive scrap strategy to provide an economic supply of metallics for our mills.

Before I turn to market commentary, I would also like to take a moment to emphasize the advancement of CMC's sustainability efforts. Our fiscal 2022 sustainability report published last month illustrates CMC's leadership position in environmental performance and our ongoing commitments for continued improvement. In fiscal 2022, CMC's Scope 1 and 2 greenhouse gas emissions stood at just 0.413 tons of CO2 per ton of steel produced, representing a 14% reduction from a 2019 baseline and a decline of 7% from fiscal 2021 levels.

These Scope 1 and 2 emissions intensity levels are nearly 80% below the global industry average. It may surprise some to learn that despite the heightened focus on ESG, the global steel industry's emissions per ton have actually increased steadily over the last several years. However, CMC is going in the opposite direction, using innovation, process improvements and energy sourcing to make greener steel with less impact on the environment. CMC's micro mill projects will further improve our environmental footprint as this technology consumes 32% less energy and emits 30% less greenhouse gas compared to standard mini mills.

One AZ 2 and Steel West Virginia are fully ramped up, roughly 1/3 of our products will be produced using the world's cleanest steelmaking technology. These investments are yet another example of how at CMC good business decisions and good environmental stewardship go hand in hand. As you can also read in our 2022 sustainability report, CMC is poised to meet its or exceed its 2030 environmental goals related to Scope 1 and 2 greenhouse gas emissions intensity, water usage and energy consumption intensity and renewable energy sourcing. Soon, we will be reevaluating these goals and setting new targets.

I would now like to turn to CMC's market environment, starting with North America. Hopefully, it will be encouraging that my comments sound very similar to our recent updates as we continue to experience strong market conditions and see signs that strength will remain. We are well aware that recessionary concerns are growing in the investment community and being reported in the financial press, and we are monitoring conditions closely. However, looking at our business, we see no meaningful signs of a slowdown.

Demand in the first quarter was stable at strong levels across our product lines in major geographies. Most key indicators that lead rebar consumption by 9 to 12 months point to growth ahead. These indicators include both external and internal metrics that have been historically reliable in our indices we've referenced in past market commentaries. Let me review several of these key external indicators. The Dodge Momentum Index which measures the value of nonresidential projects entering the planning phase, reached a record high in November. The reading highlighted strong growth in both the commercial and institutional components of the index, rising 28% and 21%, respectively, from the prior year.

We recently began monitoring a separate Dodge indicator that tracks the value of infrastructure projects entering the predesign and design phases. The value of these projects is up significantly from the prior year, likely signaling that federal funding is working through the pipeline and will soon begin to impact on the ground construction activity. To give a sense of magnitude, the value of projects tracks by Dodge's Design Phase Index over the last 3 months was double the prior year and was 12x higher than 2 years ago.

CMC's own internal view also gives us confidence going forward. Our downstream bidding activity remained at historically high levels during the first quarter, driven by a broad range of project types in both the public and private sectors. As can be seen on Slide 9, our downstream backlog continues to grow on a year-over-year basis when measured in terms of both value and quantity. Beyond the near term, we believe there are structural trends underway that will support strong domestic construction activity.

The first, which I've already mentioned, is the federal infrastructure package signed into law a year ago. At full run rate, this plan is expected to increase federal funding for core rebar consuming projects such as highways, bridges and related structures by 65% compared to the FAST Act that it replaced. We estimate the impact will be 1.5 million tons of incremental annual rebar demand within a domestic market of roughly 9 million tons, representing an approximately 17% increase in consumption.

Spending is expected to ramp up over 5 years and assuming typical time frames for project approvals, bidding and awarding, we should begin to see some impact on construction activity in calendar year 2023. The Dodge data I discussed earlier supports this view. Another meaningful structural trend is the reshoring of critical industries. We have previously mentioned the massive scale and pace of construction of new semiconductor facilities. Currently, there are at least 11 facilities planned to be constructed with related total investment of over $275 billion. CMC is already shipping to several of these projects, but most are yet to break ground and impact rebar consumption.

Semiconductor chip and wafer plants are the highest profile examples of reshoring, but other industries are also experiencing increased activity or project planning. These include LNG facilities for the export of natural gas, chemical and plastic plants as well as the automotive supply chain with a particular focus on electric vehicles and battery production.

The last 3 years have exposed the vulnerabilities of concentrated global supply chains structured to operate under stable conditions and cooperative political regimes. The pandemic and geopolitical turmoil have reminded us of the need for a more distributed set of sourcing options, ensuring reliability and flexibility in securing critical materials and equipment. Eventually, we expect reshoring to extend well beyond the areas we just discussed.

Turning briefly to merchant bar. Underlying demand conditions and end-use OEM markets are generally stable. Following the destocking event that occurred during our fiscal fourth quarter, shipments to service centers stabilized at improved levels during the first quarter. We would expect real underlying demand to continue at a steady rate in the quarters ahead. As I indicated, market conditions in Europe are more challenging. Overall, construction activity continued to grow on a year-over-year basis during the first quarter.

However, residential activity, which has been strong for more than a year, is now showing signs of a slowdown due to the impact of rising mortgage interest rates. New mortgage origination has declined meaningfully over the last several months. However, programs are being developed to support first-time homebuyers, which should attract more market activity by mid-calendar 2023. In addition, as a result of the ongoing energy crisis, industrial activity in Central Europe has been in contraction since the summer of 2022. This has impacted demand for merchant bar and some wire rod products. On the other hand, energy prices have moderated somewhat from recent market peaks, and the current mild temperatures should also provide some relief.

As illustrated on Slide 10 of the supplemental presentation, the European energy crisis, combined with trade sanctions, has impacted historical trade flows in the region, which has benefited Poland on a relative basis. Poland has recently moved into a net rebar export position compared to a fairly large net import position a year ago.

Electricity price volatility relative to the broader EU has tended to be less extreme in Poland over the last year due to a variety of factors, which has created a favorable cost dynamic for Polish producers. Energy costs have been both lower and more stable, providing some protection from imported materials originating from other European Union countries.

With regard to rebar trade with countries outside the EU, little foreign material has entered the Polish market to offset the loss of Russian and Belarusian rebar. Imports have increased into the broader EU, but this material has gone to countries that are more logistically accessible and are experiencing higher energy costs. So while European demand is challenging at the moment, the supply side of the economic equation is helping to offset much of the detrimental impact.

Within this environment, CMC has leveraged its strong relative cost position and operational flexibility to profitably win market share. Shipments of rebar, merchant bar and wire rod in the first quarter were all well above the long-term quarterly average, despite a lackluster demand backdrop. We would expect these advantages to continue to favor CMC.

Finally, as stated in our press release, our Board of Directors declared a quarterly cash dividend of $0.16 per share of CMC common stock for stockholders of record on January 19, 2023. The dividend will be paid on February 2, 2023. This represents CMC's 233rd consecutive quarterly dividend with the amount paid per share increasing 14% from Q1 of fiscal 2022.

With that as an overview, I will now turn the discussion over to Paul Lawrence, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, to provide some more comments on the results for the quarter. Paul?

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Paul Lawrence
executive

Thank you, Barbara, and Happy New Year to everyone on the call. As Barbara noted, we reported fiscal first quarter 2023 net earnings of $261.8 million or $2.20 per diluted share compared to prior year levels of $232.9 million and $1.90 respectively. Results this quarter include a net after-tax charge of $4.4 million, which was related to start-up activities at CMC Arizona's project. We expect to continue to incur start-up costs for the balance of fiscal 2023.

Excluding the impact of this item, adjusted earnings were $266.2 million or $2.24 per diluted share. Core EBITDA was $425 million for the first quarter of 2023, representing a 30% increase from the $326.8 million generated during the prior year period.

Slide 13 of the supplemental presentation illustrates the strength of CMC's quarterly results. Our North America segment drove the significant year-over-year earnings growth, while Europe experienced some pullback. Core EBITDA per ton of finished steel reached its second highest rate ever coming in at $273 compared to $223 per ton a year ago.

Now I will review the results by segment. CMC's North American segment generated adjusted EBITDA of $378 million for the quarter, equal to $348 per ton of finished steel shipped. Segment adjusted EBITDA improved 41% on a year-over-year basis, driven significantly by increased margins on downstream and steel products over their underlying scrap costs. Downstream products were a particularly impactful contributor on a year-over-year basis as the average selling price improved by over $300 per ton compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2022.

Partially offsetting these benefits were lower margins on sales of raw materials as well as higher controllable costs on a per ton of finished steel basis due primarily to increased unit pricing for alloys, energy and freight. On a sequential quarter basis, controllable costs per ton were relatively unchanged with signs of pricing on some key consumable inputs have peaked and could begin declining in the quarters ahead.

As we look forward, we have a number of planned maintenance outages that will not impact shipment volumes, but will result in higher controllable costs in coming quarters. Selling prices for steel products from our mills increased by $44 per ton on a year-over-year basis, but declined $84 per ton from the prior quarter. Margin over scrap on steel products increased $147 per ton from a year ago. Comparison to our fourth quarter, metal margin decreased by $22 per ton as the decline in average pricing outpaced the reduction in scrap costs.

Shipments of finished product in the first quarter were virtually unchanged from a year ago and followed a typical seasonal pattern compared to the fourth quarter. End market demand for our mill products remained healthy. Rebar consumption, as tracked by the Steel Manufacturers Association, is growing on a year-over-year basis. They likely still moderated by constrained supply of labor and material in certain geographies. Demand for merchant bar is stable at good levels.

Turning to Slide 15 of the supplemental deck. Our Europe segment generated adjusted EBITDA of $64.5 million for the first quarter of 2023, which included the receipt of an annual energy credit that totaled approximately $9.5 million. The first quarter results compared to adjusted EBITDA of $79.8 million in the prior year period. The decline was driven by higher cost for energy, the negative P&L impact of selling higher cost inventory into a contracting price environment, a reduced energy credit which was over $15 million last year as well as the weakening of the Polish Zloty relative to the U.S. dollar.

CMC's energy hedge position once again paid significant dividends as actual costs were well below the levels that would have been paid had we purchased solely on the spot basis. Europe volume increased 30% compared to the prior year due to the market share gains mentioned by Barbara as well as the impact of a planned major maintenance outage taken during the comparative period of the first quarter of fiscal 2022.

Demand conditions within Central Europe are challenging. However, the Polish construction market continued to grow by mid-single-digit percentages, while industrial production has entered into a contractionary phase as a result of the ongoing energy crisis. We believe CMC is well positioned for this current period of volatility in Europe. We are a low-cost industry leader with operational flexibility to adjust to and serve changing market conditions.

Tensar generated $11.4 million during the first quarter, yielding an EBITDA margin of 18.9%. Margins were temporarily hampered by production issues encountered at our Morrow, Georgia geogrid plant. These issues have been addressed with equipment upgrades. However, during the first quarter, we incurred increased logistics costs and slower delivery times as a result of bringing product from our overseas operations. As a reminder, Tensar performance is included within CMC's existing segments. Of our $11.4 million of EBITDA, $8.1 million was included in CMC's North American segment, with the remaining $3.3 million recorded in our Europe segment.

Turning to the balance sheet. Moving as of November 30, 2022, cash and cash equivalents totaled $582 million. In addition to cash and equivalents, we had approximately $915 million of availability under our credit, term loan and accounts receivable facility, bringing total liquidity to $1.5 billion. During the quarter, CMC took a few financing actions worth noting.

First, we repurchased $115.9 million of CMC's 2023 senior notes through a tender offer process, leaving $214.1 million outstanding, which will mature in May. Second, our revolver was upsized to $600 million. And concurrently, we canceled our U.S. accounts receivable program, which resulted in a net $50 million increase in availability. And lastly, CMC established a $200 million term loan facility that can be utilized to refinance the maturing notes if we so choose.

During the quarter, we generated $372.4 million of cash from operating activities, with working capital being relatively neutral factor. Our free cash flow amounted to $239.3 million, defined as our cash from operations less $133 million of capital expenditures. Our leverage metrics remain attractive and have improved significantly over the last several fiscal years.

As can be seen on Slide 19, our net debt-to-EBITDA ratio now sits at just 0.4x. While we believe our robust balance sheet and overall financial strength provides us flexibility to finance our strategic organic growth projects and pursue opportunistic M&A while continuing to return cash to shareholders. CMC's effective tax rate was 22.7% in the first quarter. Looking ahead to fiscal 2023, we currently expect a full year effective tax rate of between 23% and 25%.

Turning to CMC's fiscal 2023 capital spending outlook. We expect to invest between $500 million and $550 million in total. The $50 million increase to the range compared to prior guidance is driven by spending related to CMC Steel West Virginia that we now view is likely to occur this year. Lastly, CMC purchased roughly 1.3 million shares during the fiscal first quarter at an average price of $38.53 per share. Transactions since the initiation of the buyback program through Q1 have amounted to roughly $211 million, leaving $139 million remaining under the authorization.

This concludes my remarks, and I'll turn the discussion back to Barbara for comments on our outlook.

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Barbara Smith
executive

Thank you, Paul. We remain confident that fiscal 2023 will be another year of strong financial performance. Downstream backlog and bidding activity are at historically high levels and should support volumes over the near term. Additionally, we look forward to the start-up of our newest micro mill, Arizona 2, in the spring, which will greatly enhance CMC's ability to capitalize on the strength we see in construction markets.

We anticipate good financial results in the second quarter compared to historical standards, though seasonally down from the first quarter. We expect healthy demand for our products to continue in North America, while conditions in Europe are more challenging and could be impacted by customer pessimism and general uncertainty. However, as I discussed earlier, CMC's operations in Poland are very well positioned to compete given their cost leadership position and operational flexibility.

While we anticipate margins over scrap in both North America and Europe to remain elevated in relation to historical levels, they are likely to compress from the first quarter levels.

Once again, I would like to thank all of our CMC employees for delivering yet another quarter of outstanding performance.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question today will come from Emily Chieng with Goldman Sachs.

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Emily Chieng
analyst

Thank you for the update this morning. I'd like to start off by asking around the Europe segment there. Volumes were certainly much higher than anticipated. Perhaps could you share how much of that is taking share versus some of the still steady Polish construction market strength that you're seeing? And then perhaps if you've got a sense of what volume expectations could look like there for the remainder of the year?

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Barbara Smith
executive

Yes. Thank you, Emily. Happy New Year. So I would say the following. If you look at our strategy in Europe, we've had a deliberate strategy over time to strengthen our Polish operations by creating a situation where we have tremendous operational flexibility and expanding the product range of products that we have to offer. So if you go back 10, 15 years, we were highly dependent upon construction products, rebar and wire rod. And there's been a deliberate investment strategy to invest in merchant and even into some SBQ ranges.

And what that does for us is it gives us the flexibility as market conditions change to shift the product mix to the markets with good demand or better demand. In addition, we've worked really hard to have a cost structure that is advantaged relative to other options in the region. And those 2 factors combined have really allowed us to shift to the markets that have the strongest demand. So I would say we are encouraged, as I said earlier, about the construction fundamentals in Poland going forward, albeit some reduction in residential, but still good growth and good -- there's positive GDP in Poland as compared to other parts of the region.

There's -- as I indicated, the trade flows have changed as a result of the war. That has created opportunity for CMC to step in and fill demand that was filled from Russia and Belarus. So all those factors combined, we're going to continue to take advantage of our low-cost structure and take advantage of our operational flexibility to shift to where the best market opportunities are. And that will allow us to have good operational results going forward.

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Emily Chieng
analyst

Great. That's very clear, Barbara. And as a follow-up, would love to sort of dig deeper around the cost commentary that was provided. It sounds like things may be peaking and you might be starting to see some early signs of certain costs coming down, presumably some of the warmer weather might have brought down the energy cost structure as well. But could you perhaps share what you're seeing in each of the different components in the controllable cost calculation? And then maybe when we should be expecting that maintenance activity to hit this year? I'll leave it at that.

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Barbara Smith
executive

Let me make a couple of broad comments, and then I'm going to let Paul give some more specifics. If you look at -- and you go back and look at what happened when COVID hit, there was just a severe supply chain disruption and severe economic reaction because there were so many unknowns. If you fast forward to when the war broke out between Russia and Ukraine, you saw a similar situation where -- in the example I'll use energy just skyrocketed because there was all this uncertainty around how Europe would source their energy and what would the price be.

You also saw a massive increase in a number of raw materials, alloys and other things that were a result of that disruption. And much the same as we saw during COVID after supply chain started to readjust and things calm down, there was an abatement in that supply chain disruption. The COVID is probably not as good as an example to the war because it was just so far reaching, and we had such concentrated supply chain sourcing.

But in the case of the war, as time has gone on, we've seen the supply chain begin to adjust and in particular, alloy costs have continued -- have started to abate and prices have adjusted downward as we found other sourcing options and as the uncertainty has started to become clear. So inflation is still broadly an issue around the world, but there's definitely abatement going on due to that initial reaction and then everybody figuring out how to adjust their supply chain. But I'll let Paul make some further comments.

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Paul Lawrence
executive

I think Barbara's comments really hit the nail on the head as far as what we're seeing in North America on the cost side. Really, the only comment I would add to our cost generally is on the natural gas side in Europe. The natural gas contracts reset, essentially twice a year in the October and May time frames. And so through until October, we were operating on natural gas prices that were prewar and then they reset.

Thankfully, our natural gas is limited to the reheat furnace. And so not a major cost, but the cost increased around 6x what it was previously. And so that's the one area in which we've seen some increase in costs. And it's really specific to the European operations. With respect to your other question regarding the maintenance outages, we've got a couple major outages coming in the back half of this year. And in fact, starting later this week, our Seguin, Texas facility will be down for a while as it replaces the furnace.

There will be a large period of time in which we will not be melting steel. However, we have a lot of billets on the ground, and we'll continue to roll product, continue to serve customers throughout that period of time. But coming out of the outage, we will have more efficient facility and get some benefits coming out of the new technology that is being put in. So excited about that. It's a furnace that has produced well in excess of the normal service life, just a testament to the maintenance and ongoing operations that the team does down there.

Following that, in the third quarter, we have another outage, and I just named that just simply because it's in our Alabama mill. And again, it's a -- some new refurbishment to some of our roughing and rolling mill stands, which not only increases the reliability of those, but also provides us to enhance our product mix. And so we get benefits out of that going forward. So those will be significant, but look forward to ensuring the ongoing reliability and provide us opportunities as we move into the future.

Reliability of this equipment is critical. We've been running hard as we've been enjoying these hard period -- these hard market conditions, these good market conditions. And so we need to ensure that we continue to do the necessary maintenance to continue to ensure that the reliability is there.

Operator

And our next question will come from Timna Tanners with Wolfe Research.

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Timna Tanners
analyst

Wanted to ask a bit more, if I could, about Slide 9 and the trends that you're seeing in the downstream side. Just trying to reconcile the decline in bids and backlog with the comments about the upward price trend in downstream products. Is there like some explanation of why it seems to be rolling over, but also comments about higher prices? I'm just trying to reconcile those comments.

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Barbara Smith
executive

Happy New Year, Timna. Thank you for the question. We have seasonality in the bidding activity on the fabrication side of the business. And normally, as we move towards the end of the year because there's lower construction activity through the winter months, we tend to see some changes in lower activity during that time frame and then it ramps up when you get past the first of the year. The other thing I would say is we're seeing a little bit more lumpy activity in bidding and booking in fab because of these very large jobs that I spoke of, like the semiconductor and some of those, they're out there and they're in the pipeline, but there can be a job that we anticipate booking and it just happens to miss one quarter and fall over into the next quarter. So we've had some very large jobs that just -- it's all about the timing.

Overall, we are monitoring it carefully because we're all familiar with all of the economic concerns. And we continue to see a very, very strong pipeline of bidding and confidence in the owners of these projects that they're going to move forward, the industrial projects in particular, balance sheets are really strong. Companies have the cash. They're not dependent upon financing to move those projects forward. And those types of projects, once they get booked and they're funded, they will get completed. So we are not seeing an increased activity in rebids. We are not seeing increased activity in cancellations. And we remain quite encouraged going forward.

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Timna Tanners
analyst

Okay. That's helpful and makes sense. I guess as a follow-up, if I could. Can you talk a little bit to the cadence of ramp-up of Arizona 2? I know it's supposed to ramp up in the calendar year, but just thinking about where we should be a year from now and the cadence? And then similarly, any cadence comments on what you're seeing in terms of any infrastructure stimulus timing would be great.

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Barbara Smith
executive

Yes. Thank you. The best I can point you to, Timna, on AZ 2 is to go back and look at the ramp in Oklahoma. This is our third micro mill. And while this one is more complex because we're adding merchant to the product mix. We are, by design, starting with rebar because that's something that we're supremely familiar with. And so I would expect the ramp to be very similar to what we experienced at Oklahoma. I don't have that exact ramp in front of me, but it was quick. Within 3, 4 quarters, we were at 3 crews and building the fourth crew. And I would anticipate a similar situation here and the merchant will follow and be layered in and enhance the productive capability. And so I would just point you back to the trajectory that we saw for Oklahoma.

As it relates to the Infrastructure Bill, it was very encouraging and eye-opening to see the trend in the preplanning and design phase numbers that I believe I quoted Dodge reports those. And there has just been a massive increase year-over-year in infrastructure, preplanning and then moving into the design phase. And once it's into the design phase, then, of course, it moves into active projects and bidding and then orders for steel.

The exact timing, Timna, I -- is hard to predict. But if you look at the magnitude of that increase and you use kind of those historical references, so it takes 12 to 24 months for those projects to translate into activity on the ground. We think the back half of 2023, those are going to start moving into the backlog and starting to come to fruition and then build from there.

Operator

And our next question will come from Lawson Winder with Bank of America.

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Lawson Winder
analyst

Nice to hear from you all, and thank you for the update. I would like to ask about Slide 16. You mentioned opportunistic M&A. Can you provide any color on the type of target companies you might be looking at, whether it might be downstream or diversifying into other products or perhaps different geographies?

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Barbara Smith
executive

Thank you, Lawson. I appreciate the question. Unfortunately, historically, we haven't provided an enormous amount of color on specific targets. So I think if you go back to our Investor Day a couple of years ago, we were pretty clear on what we are and what we aren't. And I think you will -- whatever you see us do, it will build off of the base that we have today. Clearly, we're excited about our foray into geosynthetics with the Tensar acquisition. Clearly, that's one that you can look toward.

But I would say we see so much opportunity from an organic perspective with Tensar, and we're highly focused on proper integration and really leveraging our commercial organizations to grow that really superior product that they have, and we're encouraged every single day with what we're seeing on that front. But if you look at the base business that we have, which is -- we have the full value chain, recycling and rebar, merchant, wire rod and then downstream. And we look across that full gamut.

As it relates to geography, if we are strong, as you know, in North America, and that is a key and core market to us. We also feel very, very strong in Europe with our Polish operations being beachhead. And so we don't rule out opportunities there, although Europe is a bit more complicated with all the various countries and differences and different growth in different countries throughout Europe. We do see Europe as going through this whole energy transition, which is going to create massive change and opportunity in our industry. And we're a leader in this area. And so to the extent that we can leverage that leadership, that's something that could be interesting to us. So beyond that, we can't really get into specific targets.

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Lawson Winder
analyst

Yes, I know that was fantastic. Very helpful. You mentioned Tensar several times in your response, which maybe I think I actually wanted to ask a question about the production challenges you're having. Would you be able to provide some color on the remediation plan for that and the time frame to an improvement in performance?

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Barbara Smith
executive

Yes. Thank you. This is one where there is a great synergy and a synergy we didn't necessarily identify through our due diligence. But bottom line, we lost a press. And those things happen. They happen all over other operations and in our steelmaking operations from time to time. They already had a press on order because they knew that they needed to refresh this. But then there were supply chain challenges, which delayed the delivery of that press and the installation of the press. So that was the challenge. The press is in, it's installed, it's performing. And so that issue is behind us. .

The synergy really comes in from Tensar is just superb at innovation and new product development and commercialization of new products. But their core expertise is not necessarily on the manufacturing side. We are superb at manufacturing. And so when we saw some of the challenges that Morrow was undergoing, we were able to dispatch a number of our technical experts to be on the ground and help them muscle through it or find other productivity improvements and safety enhancements and all kinds of things that just leveraged our strength and added to their capabilities.

So the problem is behind us, and we would expect to see some fairly immediate abatement of the added costs that we had to incur to just move product differently around the world.

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Lawson Winder
analyst

Fantastic. Now hopefully, I'm not pressing my luck too much to maybe ask one more question, but I just wanted to follow up on that Slide 9, the downstream backlog and bidding volumes. Thank you for providing that. That's extremely helpful. Could you maybe provide a little bit of detail on the makeup of that? Like, for example, what proportion is warehousing and what proportion is reshoring?

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Barbara Smith
executive

I don't think we're prepared to give that granularity. What I would say is it's a strong balance between infrastructure and nonresidential. And we would expect infrastructure to increase over time. It's going to be a well-balanced mix. And I don't think it's heavy weighted towards any one segment. And the projects once they're in that backlog, they're going to get concluded and completed. I think the real beauty or message in the material that we provided is there is an enormous margin opportunity in the backlog that is going to evolve and play out going forward as we service that backlog.

Operator

And our next question will come from Phil Gibbs with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

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Philip Gibbs
analyst

Lots of good questions were asked that we're basically already focused on what I was wanting to hit on. But what's the openness to further M&A as it relates to your strategic longer-term growth framework?

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Barbara Smith
executive

Phil, I think you have followed us through the good, the bad and the ugly, and our balance sheet has never been in a condition that it is, it's extremely strong. It gives us the flexibility to do a lot of things. As you know, of late, we've been returning more to shareholders through the share repurchase and the increase in the dividend. We think about that in terms of just a balanced capital allocation strategy. And we have complete confidence that we can continue to do that as well as look at and fund the organic growth that we've talked about and leave the opening and the flexibility to consider M&A if the right thing comes along.

And I think you've also followed us long enough to know that we're very disciplined in terms of our capital allocation, and we're very disciplined acquirers to ensure that it's the right strategic fit and that we have something to offer when we do combine and when we do acquire. So we remain open, and I think the balance sheet can support that kind of activity while still having a pretty balanced capital allocation strategy.

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Philip Gibbs
analyst

And then just a follow-up. You had mentioned something about a 13 -- excuse me, a 12x increase in something. I think as it related to perhaps infrastructure quoting or something like that. I missed exactly what you said around that.

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Barbara Smith
executive

That was around the infrastructure, I believe, Phil, that the massive increase in the preplanning and then the design phase.

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Paul Lawrence
executive

Versus 2 years ago.

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Barbara Smith
executive

Versus 2 years ago for infrastructure projects, which is really the leading indicator for the new Infrastructure Bill to begin to translate into orders and backlog for us. So that's an incredibly encouraging sign that, indeed, we are going to see that coming to the market here in the near term.

Operator

And our next question will come from Tristan Gresser with BNP Paribas.

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Tristan Gresser
analyst

Maybe I'll start off with a follow-up regarding the supply and demand outlook for rebar consumption in U.S. If you look at the medium-term picture there, there's been a number of projects announced domestically maybe around 3 million tons of new rebar capacity potentially ramping up by 2026. You flagged the 1.5 million ton rebar impact from the Infrastructure Bill. But could there be a scenario when this is not enough?

And I just wanted to have your thoughts on how do you feel that the medium-term balance there for the U.S. rebar market? Are you really worried that there's maybe too much capacity being built?

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Barbara Smith
executive

Yes. Thank you, Tristan. I don't know that our numbers would be quite as high as 3 because I think some of that has already been absorbed in the market. If you go back to the Oklahoma investment that we made, there was a very heightened concern at the time that we were introducing new capacity that couldn't be absorbed by the market, and it was fully absorbed. And as far as I can say and see and I think what you observed was it was not disruptive to the market.

I acknowledge Nucor has made some investments. And certainly, we have Arizona, which really is -- it's an offset to the difficult decision that we made during COVID to shutter the California facility. And so I'm not overly concerned at this time. I think what I've seen and what our numbers would tell us is that it's -- you're not going to see a significant overbuilding of capacity, unlike maybe some other products where there's been substantially more new capacity brought online and not necessarily the same demand increase for that capacity, but we always monitor it.

And I think the other point I would make is mini mill, micro mill capacity is very flexible and can adjust when demand changes. We have a very low fixed cost portion to that model, unlike blast furnace capacity, which does not flex as easily as mini mill or micro mill capacity.

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Tristan Gresser
analyst

All right. That's very clear and helpful. My second question is more on the spot market development. Do you think the structural adjustment you've seen in the U.S. rebar market pre Infrastructure Bill, the one you mentioned in your presentation, are currently being fully reflected in spot rebar metal spread that are premium to flat products, meaning that we should now see a return to a more normal cost price relationship moving forward for U.S. rebar prices and cost compared to what we've seen over the past 2 years? So just wanted to have your thoughts on the current developments.

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Barbara Smith
executive

Yes. Thank you, Tristan. It's a complicated question. There's many factors, but I think the consolidation of the long side of the market, particularly the rebar space, has provided a lot of stability. I do think that there is a structural shift upward in long, medium-term margins through a cycle. I would also highlight that you really should look at and compare metal margin between long products and flat products. Long products have had much more stable margin structure over -- it fluctuates, but over a much tighter band than the peak to trough that you tend to see for a flat and plate products.

And I don't see anything that would suggest that, that stability will be disrupted. So we have known for a long period of time that even before consolidation, rebar and long products, metal margin was much more stable than what you see on the flat side of the equation.

Operator

And this will conclude our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Barbara Smith for any closing remarks.

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Barbara Smith
executive

Thank you, Cole. And thank you, everyone, for joining us on today's conference call. We look forward to speaking with many of you during our investor calls in the coming days and weeks. Have a great day. Thank you.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.