Blackstone Secured Lending Fund

NYSE:BXSL

Earnings Call Transcript 2023-Q1

[Operator]

Good day, and welcome to the Blackstone Secured Lending’s First Quarter 2023 Investor Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] All participants are in listen-only mode. We will conduct a question and answer session after our prepared remarks. [Operator Instructions]

At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Weston Tucker, Head of Blackstone Shareholder Relations. Please go ahead.

[Weston Tucker, Head of Investor Relations]

Thank you, Katie, and good morning and welcome to Blackstone Secured Lendings’ first quarter call. Earlier today, we issued a press release with a presentation of our results and filed our 10-Q, both of which are available on the shareholder section of our website www.bxsl.com. We will be referring to that presentation throughout today’s call.

I would like to remind you that today’s call may include Forward-Looking Statements which are uncertain and outside of the firm’s control and may differ materially from actual results. We do not undertake any duty to update these statements. For some of the risks that could affect results, please see the risk factors section of our most recent Form 10-K. This audio cast is copyrighted material of Blackstone and may not be duplicated without consent.

With that, I will turn the call over to BXSL’s co-Chief Executive Officer, Brad Marshall.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you, Weston, and good morning everyone. With me today is John Bock, Co-Chief Executive Officer, and we are excited to be joined by Teddy Desloge, our newly appointed Chief Financial Officer, effective as of close of business today.

Many of you know Teddy as he has been with Blackstone credit since 2015, first on the direct lending investing team and then in a portfolio manager capacity for our direct lending business. We are excited to have him officially joined BXSL Management team.

Turning to this morning’s agenda, I would like to start with some high level perspective before John and Teddy go into the detail of our portfolio and first quarter results. Turning to Slide 4, the BXSL reported another strong quarter with significant growth in net investment income, higher net asset value, and strong credit performance all in a period that was marked by meaningful uncertainty ranging from commercial bank failures to stubbornly high core inflation.

Net investment income or NII increased 3% quarter-over-quarter to $0.93 per share, which represented a 14% annualized return on equity and our highest NII per quarter since inception, primarily driven by rising interest rates that have increased the average yield on our debt investments from 10.7% last quarter to 11.4% at quarter end.

This earning power further reflects the quality and strength of a well-sourced portfolio, which as of March 31st was 98% senior secured first lien, 45.2% loan to value, using cost basis to measure less than 0.14% of the investments are a non-accrual or 0.07% on a fair market value basis, and less than 2% of our assets are marked below 90 at cost. Our net asset value per share, which increased 0.7% to $26.10 from $25.93 the previous quarter further reflects portfolio stability.

Earnings power again exceeded our quarterly dividend of $0.70 per share, which was increased 17% last quarter and has increased over 30% since the fund’s IPO in late 2021. Our current dividend represents a 10.7% annualized yield for shareholders based on the higher first quarter NAV of $26.10 per share. We believe this represents the highest dividend yield for any listed BDC with as much of its portfolio invested in first lien senior secured assets.

Slide 5 provides additional highlights on our portfolio activity in stability in our liquidity position. First quarter sales and repayments were $109 million matched by $108 million in new investment commitments. The result of lower net origination was tied to both a seasonally slow period for new deal activity, as well as a lower -- overall level of deal volume as private equity sponsors selectively adjust to the new market and rate dynamics.

That said, we are beginning to see more market activity, which may lead to an increase in portfolio turnover. Subsequent to quarter end, we realize our debt and equity investments in Westland, the impact of which we expect to be accretive to NII by more than $0.05 per share.

In terms of our balance sheet, we also believe we remain well positioned for both defense and continued growth with 1.2 billion of liquidity from cash and our undrawn lending lines. Our lending lines were set up two-years ago at what are now below market prices with high quality counterparties. We had zero direct exposure to Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank and First Republic Bank, and we have less than 1% of all secure debt commitments from regional banks in general.

Turning to Slide 6, we ended the quarter with 9.6 billion of investments and leverage of 1.31 times, which is down from 1.34 times the previous quarter. Importantly, the ending yield of our portfolio, which is 98% floating rate, debt expanded over 400 basis points over the last 12 months.

Taking a moment on this slide, I want to outline that each quarter the market continues to witness increased earnings power associated with floating rate nature of our loans, and the attractive fixed rate liabilities. However, I believe that there is a growing demand for BXSL due to its defensive positioning during these more volatile times.

In fact, if you look at senior secure debt, which is 98% of BXSL’s portfolio composition, the private credit asset class as measured by Cliffwater Direct Lending Index has generated consistent returns ranking as the top first or second performer in fixed income in 13 over the past 18-years since Blackstone, then GSO launches private credit strategy, and only one down year, which was during the great financial crisis. And prior to the GFC, the average loan to value is 66% versus 57% in 2022 and 45% in BXSL.

Part of the focus on limiting risk in our portfolio is to focus on larger deals. Our leadership in large private credit transactions, where we have led or been the sole lender in approximately 50% of the one billion plus direct lending deals is important as we have control over the outcome in these deals that focus on building right lending to the right businesses, which some may consider to be a first line of defense, continues to generate solid returns for BXSL shareholders.

Comparing our NAV returns to public market benchmarks, BXSL generated a total return of 3.4% in the quarter compared to 3.2% for leverage loans, 3.6% for high yield bonds, and 3% for investment grade balance. John will speak more to the portfolio later in the call.

Additionally, there is a second line of defense to protect capital, often just as important as the first, but goes less recognized by investors. That is the potential value add a manager can bring to the portfolio after investments are made.

Many of you have heard us outline the benefits of Blackstone credit value team, formally Blackstone Credit Advantage, but I would like to put a few numbers behind this value add. Recall, we have an internal Blackstone team of 109 professionals who work with our portfolio companies, including over 20 professionals in Blackstone Credit.

This team offers the scale and operating capabilities of the Blackstone Network to our portfolio companies that drive both revenue and cost synergies to the benefit of the portfolio company and the private equity sponsor. We believe these benefits are unique to Blackstone Credit and they provide substantial value to our shareholders.

Let me share some detail with two examples where we held the equity. Last summer, we realized our position in a company called Data Site, a leading provider of Virtual Data Room, or VDR, services in which BXSL had invested in equity and warrants alongside the debt commitment, which was never called.

Recall VDR are independent platforms used to host and share highly confidential files and manage workflows. By leveraging the Blackstone Value Creation team and the broader Blackstone Network, we were able to identify and help data site execute on meaningful cross-sell opportunities and cost savings.

One important element to assist data site was Blackstone’s over 93 introductions across the Blackstone ecosystem, including Blackstone’s internal teams, the Blackstone portfolio companies, advisors, and private equity partners.

Subsequent to quarter end, as I mentioned earlier, we realized our investment in Westland, a Canadian insurance brokerage business in its sale of Broad Street Partners. We first invest in Westland in 2021 and have provided a combination of debt and equity based growth capital that helped turn them from a regional broker into a national scale player with nearly twice the operating profit.

With the help of our advisor expertise, we provided support on their IT transformation to support growth culminating and a payoff that we expect to be accretive to NII by more than $0.05 a share. Across these two investments BXSL invested $207 million and received $265 million in proceeds on the sales, a 28% increase on our initial investment in addition the $28 million of interest we received during our hold period.

Remember, we offer cross sale, cost saving, and advisory opportunities to all of our boards at no additional fee, because we understand the end benefits of the investment portfolio. And while, we are a lender first with a portfolio overwhelmingly invest in first lien senior insured loans, our operating platform allows us to realize additional equity upside or help de-risk our debt investments, status site investment are two very recent and successful case studies of how truly unique our platform and our capital can be for the companies that we partner with.

Generally, across our direct lending business, a substantial majority of the portfolio companies that are introduced to the valuation creation team actively participate in the program. And while we have a large portfolio monitoring team is one of the largest in the world in private credit, we go beyond that with our own resources and infrastructure to drive outcomes. That benefit not only our portfolio companies, but also our shareholders in real tangible ways.

With that, I will turn it over to Jon to speak about the portfolio.

[Jonathan Bock, Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you, Brad. And echoing your comments on strength and periods of uncertainty, let’s again see what a defensive portfolio looks like. So jump to Slide 7. Let’s start with seniority, up to 98% of BXSL investments are in first lean senior secured loans and over 95% of those are two companies owned by private equity firms or other financial sponsors who have access to additional equity capital to support their companies. The portfolio is highly equitized with an average loan-to-value of 45%. But it is not just that we are senior in the capital structure.

More importantly, we are focused on seniority with companies of the right size and in the right industries. Focusing on size, our portfolio companies have a weighted average EBITDA of 179 million relative to 128 million as of the first quarter of 2022, as we continue to orient the portfolio to larger, more durable businesses.

Let’s jump to Slide 8. Our focus on the upper end of the middle market is rooted in our belief that this area provides compelling value opportunity, and the data bears this out. Note that recent data from Lincoln suggests that upper middle market companies with greater than a 100 million of EBITDA maintain a similar credit spread per unit of leverage compared to middle market businesses.

But larger companies grew more than twice the rate of smaller companies in 2022 and have had substantially lower default rates since 2018. And for reference, BXSL had less than 2% of its portfolios in companies earning less than 30 million of EBITDA, which have historically had those higher covenant default rates. Now, many of you know Lincoln is a leading valuation provider to private credit in the BDC space as they value and review over 4,000 private credit investments each quarter.

Now, Slide 9 focuses on our industry exposure, where we believe investing in better companies in better neighborhoods drives sustained returns over time. This means focusing on key sectors with low default rates, low CapEx requirements, such as software, healthcare providers and services and professional services, which account for over 35% of the investment portfolio.

Now diving into the portfolio quality further jump to Slide 10. Here we compare the BXSL portfolio to the Lincoln International Private Market database, and you can see that our weighted average EBITDA 179 million is more than double the market average of 80 million.

Last 12 months EBITDA growth for our portfolio companies was nearly triple that of the benchmark, and importantly, on profitability, our portfolio companies have EBITDA margins that are 25% higher.

Now, let’s talk interest coverage. As mentioned last quarter, this is a stat that gets widely shared on other listed BDC earnings calls, but as we have mentioned previously, the way it is calculated by BDC managers varies widely.

In some cases, certain sectors or types of loans are excluded in other cases, managers exclude negative EBITDA companies, both decisions that obscure the averages and leave investors looking for better transparency.

So, when we calculate interest coverage, we include all private companies EBITDA, including companies that have borrowed on a recurring revenue loan and companies that may have amended some of their interest obligations to pick after initial underwriting. Next, we compare our portfolio to the Lincoln database, which we believe is a representative proxy for that entire credit market.

While we currently sit at last 12-months average interest coverage of 2.1 times today, which is slightly higher than the market average of 1.8 via Lincoln. This difference remains resilient when we run interest rates at 5% through the portfolio, which brings our average interest coverage to 1.7 times compared to the market at 1.4. And we attribute this stability to our focus on larger, more profitable higher growth businesses.

Yet, we also hear from investors and other market participants that it is less about averages, particularly the averages that are obscured by exclusions and much more about the tails, namely the percent of one’s portfolio below an interest coverage ratio of one times on a forward basis using higher base rates.

If we flow through 5% interest rates reflecting the lower end of the Fed funds target range today, we can see that BXSL would’ve had roughly 7% of its portfolio with an ICR below one compared to the private credit database or market, which is approximately twice that amount.

And in the 5% interest rates, example of that, estimated 7% of our portfolio below a 1% or one times interest coverage, 3% is related to a single transaction that we initially structured with a low ICR given the anticipated ramp of the EBITDA generation that company continues to perform and expand its profit margin.

So discerning investors will be right, averages will not tell the story of direct lending performance, the tails will, and we seek to limit our tail risk with a focus on larger, better businesses and more stable sectors. And we continue to see favorable results. Blackstone still is conservative credit culture on a foundation of structural protection for investor capital. And we do this always while focusing on larger transactions.

Note that when Blackstone leads or co-leads the vast majority of our deals, they have structural protections against asset stripping, collateral lease to prevent any shifting of assets out of our collateral package. And almost none allow for uncapped EBITDA add backs all materially better than when compared to the leverage loan market.

Now let’s just turn to amendments for a moment. We work with our companies constructively in the regular course to provide an idea scope. And so of the 45 amendment requests that we have received this quarter, 98% were related to M&A add-on activity and other benign technical amendments such as SOFR rate hedging or reporting. We did not have any situations where we provided immediate pick flexibility due to the inability to pay interest or principle.

Now turn to Slide 11, sorry about that. As Brad mentioned, we increased our dividend distribution to $0.70 a share with the current dividend yield at NAV approximately 10.7% and that was up 17% from the last quarter. And it has increased over 30% to be clear last quarter, two quarters ago in relative to the fund’s IPO in late 2021.

So importantly, we believe this 10.7% dividend yield at NAV is supported by a high margin of safety, when you compare it to BXSL net income yield of 14%. And it further reflects our view that the best dividend policy can support both a steady and stable distribution and long-term NAV growth.

And with that, I will turn it over to Teddy.

[Teddy Desloge, Chief Financial Officer]

Thanks, John, and thanks for the introduction, Brad. I’m excited to be part of the management team and look forward to spending more time with folks here on the phone in the coming months. I will spend a few minutes on our operating results, summarize our investment activity, and give some color into the pipeline activity we see on the ground today.

I will start with our operating results on Slide 12. In the first quarter of 2023, we generated our highest quarterly net invested income to-date of $149 million or $0.93 per share, which was up 45% year-over-year, as we continued to see the benefit of higher base rates flow through earnings on a predominantly floating rate first lien portfolio.

Our net investment income yield in the quarter was 14%. Total investment income was up $79 million or approximately 43% year-over-year to $265 million in the first quarter. Importantly, we maintain a policy by which no origination fees are paid to the manager mitigating conflicts associated with originating any particular transaction.

In addition, a 100% of upfront origination fees are amortized over the life of our loan. This results in a more stable income picture versus recognizing fees upfront, particularly in an environment where origination and repayment activity is lower.

To that end fee income was less than $1 million in the first quarter due to below average repayment volume of $109 million. Yet we still generated earnings that represented 133% coverage to our dividend. Payment In Kind or PIK income was about flat quarter-over-quarter and represented less than 4% of total investment income.

As John mentioned, we are encouraged by our borrower’s ability thus far to manage through higher financing costs at higher base rates and we had no new amendments in the quarter providing for PIK flexibility.

Moving down the P&L, net expenses were up 33 million compared to last year’s first quarter, driven primarily by higher interest expense. GAAP net income in the quarter was 139 million or $0.86 per share up from $0.63 per share a year-ago.

Unrealized markdowns of approximately 15 million in the quarter were the primary driver of a $2 million capital gains incentive fee reversal or approximately $0.01 per share benefit to net investment income.

Turning to the balance sheet on Slide 13. The end of the first quarter with 9.6 billion of total portfolio investments of which approximately 98%, our floating rate loans with a weighted average yield of 11.4%.

This compares to 5.5 billion of outstanding debt with a weighted average cost of just 4.68%. This spread between our floating rate assets and low cost mostly fixed rate liabilities has helped offset the impact of rising rates on our average cost of debt.

As Brad previously mentioned, sales and repayment volume of 109 million was matched by new investment activity of 108 million, 90% of which was related to portfolio activity where we have incumbency.

To give some context for the pipeline, we have seen an increasing activity in recent weeks, both as it relates to new opportunities and portfolio activity where we retain incumbency, which represents a significant competitive advantage from our scale and presence in the market.

We believe this represents a strong foundation for new originations for BXSL to the extent capacity increases from repayment volume or new share issuance. Lastly, as a result of strong earnings in excess of the dividend in the first quarter, NAV per share increased to $26.10 up from $25.93 last quarter.

Next, Slide 14 outlines our attractive and diverse liability profile, which includes 58% of drawn debt in unsecured bonds and an average fixed rate of less than 3%, which we view as having been a key advantage while the Fed increased its policy rate by 500 basis points since the beginning of 2022.

Additionally, BXSL ended the quarter with 1.2 billion of liquidity and cash and immediately available, but undrawn secured leverage capacity. Our debt to equity ratio was 1.31 times down from 1.34 times last quarter.

Additional repayments realize subsequent to quarter ends will help support deleveraging towards our target approximately one in a quarter times. Importantly, we ended the quarter with a 0.14% non-accrual rate at cost versus the BDC market average of 2.2% as of March 31, and we maintain our three investment grade corporate credit ratings.

Additionally, we have a low level of near-term debt maturities with just 6% of commitments maturing within the next two-years and an overall weighted average maturity of 3.6 years. To that end, in March, we amended our 500 million Big Sky facility with Bank of America, which further expanded our revolving period by two-years with no pricing step up until September, 2024.

Importantly, BXSL’s model is very different from some of the regional banks that have had issues. We do not hold deposits. We run a little over one turn of leverage. While banks typically run above 10 turns of leverage, we do not hold fixed rate liquid assets to cover funding obligations, and we manage the duration of our liabilities to match or exceed the expected duration of our assets.

As mentioned, we have available liquidity of 1.2 billion at quarter end, which we believe is sufficient to repay the $400 million bond maturing in July of this year. Should we choose to do so, this will maintain ample pro forward leverage capacity for unfunded commitments, which at quarter end totaled approximately $600 million with over 40% expiring by the end of this year if unused.

We continue to balance the attractiveness of the market opportunity today, indirect lending and quality of our pipeline with our focus on managing the balance sheet toward our target of approximately one and a quarter times leverage.

We may see additional repayments materialized beyond the approximately 200 million realized subsequent to the end of the first quarter, which would further support deleveraging and capacity for new deployment.

With that, I will pass it at back over to Brad.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Thanks. Teddy. Blackstone has been investing in cycles for over 37 years, and Blackstone credit and private credit for 17-years. Since the very beginning, our investment committee has been working together, navigating through cycles, and we have delivered a 12 basis points annualized realized loss rate in direct lending through our track record as of March 31st.

We have 100 specialized industry advisors that support our underwriting. We cover over 3000 companies across private and liquid credit strategies, and we have 300 investment professionals globally across 17 offices.

And what we believe to one of the largest teams in the industry at 57 in our CIO office specialized in active portfolio management. While we remain highly disciplined in an uncertain macro environment, we believe the dynamics at play create a once in a generation opportunity for direct lending and remain positive about the outlook for BXSL shareholders as a result.

And with that, I will ask the operator to open it up for questions. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from Finian O’Shea with Wells Fargo.

[Finian O’Shea]

Hi everyone good morning. Question for Brad. I guess for one is the post quarter repay you noted in the presentation? Is that going syndicated, and then can you touch on the general potential for your portfolio being large, first lien while performing, et cetera to flow out into the BSL channel?

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, sure. So to answer your question on the first, on the asset Westland, a corporate is buying that asset. And yes, they are using public debt to fund that acquisition. On your second point around the syndicated markets, I would say that continues to be a market that hasn’t fully recovered.

But as some of the larger assets outperform and look to lower their cost of capital, there is an opportunity for there to be more turnover in the portfolio and we would get our call protection on those assets.

But as I look across the opportunity sets and we have about $30 billion of assets in our pipeline right now. So I think, the IC turnover as a potential very positive from an earning standpoint because the pipeline is so large for us that we will be able to easily replace it.

[Finian O’Shea]

Okay great that is helpful. And then a follow-up, I think Teddy touched on this, I apologize if I didn’t hear the full answer. The fee income has been pretty anemic. Can you remind us if any of the fees are retained at the advisor level and relatedly would you expect this to eventually pick up for the BDC?

[Teddy Desloge, Chief Financial Officer]

I’m happy to take that Finn. Thanks. No fees are retained at the advisor level to answer your first question and to answer your second question, I think it somewhat depends on the market volumes.

As Brad mentioned, we are seeing an increase in activity across our pipeline. I think that has been the case for the last couple months. And that could lead to more repayment volume, which would drive fee income and accelerated OID as well.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

So when we do a deal Finn, that upfront OID gets amortized over the life of the loan, which Teddy highlighted, and I will be a little more emphatic than Teddy, the manager does not scrape fees for the benefit of the manager. Every fee that we generate goes to -.

[Finian O’Shea]

Yes, thanks so much.

[Operator]

Thank you. We will take our next question from Casey Alexander with Compass Point.

[Casey Alexander, Compass Point]

Hi good morning. First off, past quarters you have had a chart that discussed that when all resets flowed through the portfolio, what the earnings power might be. Have we pretty much captured all of the resets at this point in time or is there additional flow through that could punch earnings a little bit higher?

[Teddy Desloge, Chief Financial Officer]

Thanks Casey. So, we just put some numbers to it. Our average base rate earned in the quarter was right around 4.7% across our portfolio. That is versus the three month LBR spot rate at 331 of close to 5.2%. So what we would say is there is still some, some juice left to see just based on where rates are today. Historically, we have shown that chart. If we run that up through our analysis today, that is an extra $0.04 or so of earnings potential just from base rates.

[Casey Alexander, Compass Point]

Alright great, thank you. Secondly, well I appreciate the statistic that only 2% of your portfolio is trading below 90% at cost. Do you know what across the portfolio, what the average discount to par value that the portfolio is priced at right now? I’m just trying to get at how much potential NAV accretion there might be when you start to get repayments on the portfolio.

[Teddy Desloge, Chief Financial Officer]

So average Mark has a percentage of par at the end of the first quarter was 97.8.

[Casey Alexander, Compass Point]

Great. thank you very much. I appreciate you taking my questions.

[Operator]

We will take our next question from Ken Lee with RBC.

[Kenneth Lee, RBC Capital Markets]

Hi thanks for taking m question and good morning. You talked in the prepared remarks about seeing more market activity, more recently wanted, if you just further expand upon that where are you seeing activity coming from and looking a little bit further out for the rest of the year Granted incumbency is going to help. How dependent are origination bonds going to be on M&A activity picking up, do you think? Thanks.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, thanks Ken. I will take it. So where we are seeing activity public to private, so public companies looking to be taken private by private equity sponsors, we are seeing add-on financings. We are seeing corporate carve outs and we are actually seeing a pickup in sponsor-to-sponsor activity.

Anytime you are in a period of volatility, the bit as spread is fairly wide. And with the passage of time that tends to come down. So we are seeing valuations come down and more transactions as a result of that, and for us the reason why our pipeline is so big is because we have such large incumbency and 3000 credits.

Anything that is large will have to come through Blackstone credit, anything complicated such as carve outs as well. And so, I don’t think as we think about investing and continue to invest out to BXSL that we are a 100% dependent on what the broader market is seeing because kind of our deal funnel is as busy as it is.

[Kenneth Lee, RBC Capital Markets]

Got you. Very helpful there. And one follow-up if I may, you have been out earning your common dividend meaningfully wondering if there is any updated thoughts around dividend coverage and how it could trend over the near-term. Thanks.

[Jonathan Bock, Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Ken this is Bock. The way I kind of look at it would be the best BDC valuations are really defined by two things, steady and stable dividend profile, and a slowly and steady increasing NAV. We have seen that over the decades.

And so in terms of our application of approach here, you can see that level of earnings excess that excess will continue to build and spill over and flow into NAV. And then over time, to the extent we approach a cap, clearly there’d be some level of special, but our focus is on maintaining a stable and steady dividend and then watching NAV grow as a result of accretion to NAV through excess earnings.

[Kenneth Lee, RBC Capital Markets]

Got you, very helpful there. Thanks again.

[Operator]

We will go next to Robert Dodd with Raymond James.

[Robert Dodd, Raymond James]

Hi guys. Couple of questions. First one on Westland. Can you reconcile a number for me? I think, Brad, you said more than $0.05 accretive to an NII. Looking at the mark that looks to be about 4.5 million in embedded prepayment fees in the fair value in the quarter. So that would be about $0.02, two and a half cents. So is there a dividend along with the exit of Westland this quarter or could you reconcile the difference between where the mark on the loans are and the embedded prepaid fees and your indication about that is appreciated.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Yes. So, remember or maybe not remember, but when we did the deal, we gave them both debt and equity with the debt we had warrants attached to that debt that increased our discount. So our OID was lower, but we also had a fair bit of call protection. So between the call protection, the accelerated OID that results in the approximate $0.05 cents of an act.

[Robert Dodd, Raymond James]

So you didn’t mark up the fair value to the known proceeds for this quarter. No, no problem. On the unsecured that is going to mature in July, how you can obviously have the liquidity take it out? If you just take that up with Avol beyond drop unsecured as a percentage mixed down to just over 50%, which is perfectly adequate, how low if markets remain BBC unsecured markets remain disrupted for an increasingly long period of time, how low would you be comfortable going on the unsecured mix conceptually? I mean obviously that is the rating agencies like 30 plus, but you are usually well ahead of that.

[Teddy Desloge, Chief Financial Officer]

I’m happy to hit that. So first, if you look at our maturity profiles, we give the 400 million bond that is maturing. You know, after that, the earliest maturity is a floating rate facility in 2025. So the capital structure is pretty set in rock solid until then I would say we have the benefit of low cost financing that was put in place really prior to the dislocation and spread widening that we saw last year.

Our average spread on our revolver is so FFR plus 175 and we will potentially use those proceeds to pay back the bond. We won’t be opportunistic with it, right. When the market opens up and we see a good opportunity, then we certainly could issue bonds. But to your point, we do have quite a bit of cushions starting at 58%.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

We want to manage the rating Robert as well. So, this is our whole goal in everything we do is minimize risk and maximize earnings. And, and so it will be whatever we do in 2025, 2026 will be consistent with that.

[Robert Dodd, Raymond James]

Got it, thank you.

[Operator]

We will take our next question from Ryan Lynch with KBW.

[Ryan Lynch, KBW]

Hey good morning. First question I had was if you look at your overall portfolio composition and maybe your top-10 industries on Slide 9, I know this is probably tough to do because it is going to depend on each individual’s companies performance. But when you look at those top-10 industries, are there any industries that are maybe outperforming your original expectations in this environment and then conversely, are those any industries that are maybe underperforming in this current environment? We will just get your opinion on that.

[Teddy Desloge, Chief Financial Officer]

Yes, so 90% of our portfolio is in line or exceeding their budget, Ryan. So that is a pretty high percentage. And I would say the areas that are probably outperforming the most will be software healthcare, IT, insurance professional services.

Those would be the largest outperformers. But each of those sectors on page nine are - have been and we expect to continue to be very good performers in a market that could see some headwinds.

Maybe to answer the question differently where I expect to see more challenges across the market not surprisingly will be in cyclical, will be in heavy industrial businesses, will be in retail, we will be in low margin businesses. Those sectors will arguably feel the full impact of rising rates and higher inflation as well as the slowing economy.

We were very, very deliberate when we set out the BXSL to be in sectors that we thought could grow through economic cycles, and the portfolio was built accordingly, you notice that we don’t have a lot of tech that is in these earlier stage negative EBITDA type profile that some managers have got into. Those could face challenges if they can’t access the capital markets or they don’t cut costs. Our software businesses are larger EBITDA positive and are growing at 14% year-over-year.

[Ryan Lynch, KBW]

What about your healthcare businesses? We have heard from other industry participants that the sector that is facing some pressure particularly with which wage growth and keeping up with those costs, how is that sector overall performing relative to your expectations thus far and what is your expectation for -.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

The areas you have seen issues and we have seen others add some assets in non-accrual have been more of these doctor practice offices, which were very reliant on acquisitions and rollups to mask their lack of cash flow generation.

So as acquisitions have slowed down as that kind of adjustments to the cash flow has ended, you are seeing a lot of pressure in those businesses. And you are right, you have got wage pressure from nurses, technicians that are up 50% plus, and those businesses have not been able to pass on those price increases to the consumer or the end user. And so our exposure to those types of businesses is very, very low.

We have one business that is actually on our assets that are marked below 90, called WHCG purchaser. It is called [Axia] (Ph). And that is unperforming plan and we are watching it closely, but that is really the only one across the entire portfolio.

[Ryan Lynch, KBW]

Got it. I appreciate you taking my questions today.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Thanks Ryan.

[Operator]

We will take our last question from Melissa Wedel with JP Morgan.

[Melissa Wedel, JP Morgan]

Good morning and thanks for taking our questions today. First just wanted to say congrats to Teddy and Stacy and the rest of the named team today. Look forward to working with you.

I think a lot of my questions have been asked already and answered, but I was hoping to get your thoughts on sort of the implications of the forward rate curve. Certainly, looking at over the next 18-months, a couple hundred basis points, decline in forward rates. You have talked about stressing portfolio investments for 5% sustainable rates. But what do you think about what the forward curve is implying in terms of declines and what might you expect to see in terms of spread trends in that kind of environment? Thanks so much.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, so the forward curve is clearly reflecting a view that inflation is a little bit more under control. And we may be entering a slower economic period, by the way, higher rates are designed to do that. So it is not a surprise. And so on the one hand that is positive for the portfolio companies that will help them retain more cash flow in the business versus paying us.

On the other hand, you may see a slower economic environment. It is certainly an environment that we have been planning for. So from our portfolio standpoint, I think, we are in very good shape to head into a slower economic period.

As it relates to spreads, I think spreads have feel like they have topped out. We are starting to see some spread compression, which by the way will be good for existing marks on assets over time. And I think what is driving that in this sort of environment, what tends to happen is in a slower M&A environment, the higher quality businesses tend to come to market first.

And you would expect those type of businesses to have tighter spreads than other businesses. And so you are seeing a quality bias in the market right now. And that is striving spreads a little bit tighter than where we were over the past couple of quarters.

[Melissa Wedel, JP Morgan]

Thanks so much.

[Brad Marshall, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer]

Thanks Melissa.

[Operator]

That will conclude our question and answer session. At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Tucker for any additional or closing remarks.

[Weston Tucker, Head of Investor Relations]

Great. Thanks everyone for joining us today and the team is available after the call for any follow-up questions. Have a good day.

[Operator]

That will conclude today’s call. We appreciate your participation.