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Earnings Call Transcript
2019-Q4

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the PolyOne Corporation Fourth Quarter 2019 Conference Call. My name is Shannon, and I will be your operator for today.

[Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes.

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Joe Di Salvo, Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations. Please proceed.

G
Giuseppe Di Salvo
executive

Thank you, Shannon. Good morning, and welcome to everyone joining us on the call today. Before beginning, I'd like to remind you that statements made during this conference call may be considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements will give current expectations or forecasts of future results and are not guarantees of future performance. They're based on management's expectation and involve a number of business risks and uncertainties, any of which could result in actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the forward-looking statement. Some of these risks and uncertainties can be found in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission as well as in today's press release.

During the discussion today, the company will use both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the earnings release posted on the PolyOne website where the company describes the non-GAAP measures and provides a reconciliation for the most comparable GAAP financial measures. Unless otherwise stated, operating results referenced during today's call will be comparing the fourth quarter of 2019 to the fourth quarter of 2018 or the full fiscal year of 2019 to the full fiscal year of 2018.

Joining me today on the call is our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Bob Patterson; and Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Brad Richardson. Now I will turn the call over to Bob.

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Well, thanks, Joe, and good morning, everyone. I am pleased to report that for the fourth quarter, we delivered adjusted EPS of $0.34. That's a 42% increase over the prior year fourth quarter and $0.04 better than we expected when we provided our updated outlook in December. Much of the upside was driven by our Composites platform, however, Europe Color and Asia Engineered Materials also did better than expected.

Our investments in composites and other sustainable solutions have been a highlight for us this year. When combined with cost reduction initiatives we took early on, we have been able to offset a weak demand environment in a number of end markets or regions.

Specialty Engineered Materials finished the year strong, growing organic operating income 30% in the fourth quarter. This was driven by top line expansion from new business gains in composites, wire and cable and health care applications. In fact, on a full year basis, our composite technologies grew organic revenue 11%, as sales in health care and wire and cable applications also grew 14% and 16%, respectively, over this same time.

It's pretty impressive when you consider that SEM Europe's automotive-related sales were down 12% for the year. These same end market dynamics negatively impacted our Color segment as sales and operating income from Color Europe were down 7% and 13%, respectively, for the year.

Despite these results, there were some real bright spots in Color as demand for sustainable solutions gains momentum. Our barrier technologies for food and beverage packaging not only preserved content, but they are also improving recyclability. They reduced material requirements and energy consumption in the manufacturing process as well.

These positive attributes deliver on our customers' sustainability goals. And in doing so, this helps to preserve our planet's natural resources. It's a win for customers, our planet and for PolyOne, and that's why we have been investing in our sustainable solutions portfolio for several years now. And overall, that portfolio grew again this year. And in fact, over the last 2 years, sales from sustainable solutions has expanded at a compound annual growth rate of 8%.

And lastly, let me highlight our Distribution business, which increased operating income to a new record of $75 million for the full year. Return on invested capital for this segment is over 35%. The improvement over the prior year is really a story of mix and margin improvement as health care now makes up about 30% of this segment's sales. And we also benefited from freight surcharges which were implemented late in 2018.

In some respects, 2019 was a challenging year as automotive sales in Europe and Asia were down 6% and 27%, respectively. Further, we believe tariffs and related trade issues between the U.S. and China impacted demand dynamics.

The reality is overall macro conditions haven't changed much since the beginning of 2019, which is why I'm particularly proud of how we have differentiated our performance and demonstrated our ability to grow in this environment. Our investment in commercial resources over the last 4 years has been a difference maker. And as you know, we have increased sales, marketing and technology associates by 31% since 2014. As a result, we are providing our customers with exemplary service and quality and certainly doing so with a better mix of specialty products, such as composites.

Overall, we delivered adjusted EPS growth from continuing operations of 12% to $1.69 for the full year. We benefited from the previously described growth drivers but also lower interest expense and a lower share count. We're very pleased with this performance, but even more excited about our future.

In the second half of this year, we divested our Performance Products and Solutions segment and announced the transaction to acquire Clariant's Masterbatch business. In doing so, we have taken 2 truly transformational steps to accelerate Specialty growth like never before in our company's history.

I'll have more to say about that following Brad's additional remarks on the quarter and the year.

B
Bradley Richardson
executive

Well, thank you, Bob, and good morning, everyone. Let me first start with our GAAP results. In the fourth quarter, we reported GAAP earnings per share from continuing operations of $0.08. Special items in the quarter resulted in a net after-tax charge of $19.9 million compared to $20.6 million in the prior year. 2019 special items are primarily related to additional provisions for earn-out payments associated with the Fiber-line and PlastiComp acquisitions as the business' performance has been exceptional, exceeding our original expectations.

As Bob mentioned, adjusted EPS for the quarter was $0.34, 42% higher than the prior year fourth quarter. This growth in adjusted EPS was driven by a 13% improvement in operating income, lower interest expense and a lower share count. Contributions from Fiber-line, our growing Composites portfolio and barrier additives continue to perform and differentiate us. And as Bob said, we are also benefiting from our earlier efforts to reduce cost and improve pricing and mix.

From a regional standpoint, organic sales in Europe were down 8%, primarily due to weak demand in automotive applications and unfavorable foreign currencies. Foreign currencies negatively impacted the region's overall sales by 3%.

Asia sales were down 2%, with weaker foreign currencies impacting sales by 1%. Still, despite the slight top line decline, improved mix from wins in sustainable solutions led to a 30% growth in operating income for the fourth quarter and a record operating income for the full year.

In reviewing our segments for the fourth quarter, SEM expanded revenue and operating income 18% and 60%, respectively. Organically, operating income increased 32% on flat sales, driven by improved mix from wins in health care applications and composite solutions.

Strong performance from Composites and North America wire and cable sales, along with mix improvement offset unfavorable FX and demand weakness in Europe and Asia.

And health care mix for SEM improved throughout the year, where end market sales were up 14%. Examples of wins in applications that are driving this steady growth each quarter included medical devices like next-generation glucose monitors, formulations for new catheter extrusions, performance tubing required for the effective delivery of liquids and components and seals on masks used for continuous positive airway pressure therapy, made possible by our VersaFlex thermoplastic elastomers.

We are being chosen by customers because of our material science expertise and medical-grade solutions and FDA-compliant polymers. Our value-added services aid our customers in the earliest stages of their product design and testing. We're more than just a material supplier, we are a collaborative partner in their product development process.

In looking at our Color segment, revenue and operating income were down 6% and 9%, respectively, for the fourth quarter. Weaker foreign currencies impacted both sales and operating income by 1%. From an end market perspective, growth in sustainable solutions, such as barrier additives was more than offset by weakness in transportation applications. Sustainable solutions continue to be a growth story, particularly within the Color business. Similar to SEM, health care sales were also up in Color, growing 6% for the year. And just like in food and beverage preservation, additives can play a crucial role to enable the desired performance of products in this industry. For example, when certain pharma contents are UV sensitive and can degrade, it requires packagings with additives that protect the quality and integrity of the precious content inside. Our additives portfolio offers that and more.

As Bob mentioned, the Distribution team delivered a record year of operating income. Growing 6% to $75.4 million. The segment grew operating income through operating margin expansion from improved mix and pricing. In addition to health care, recent mix improvements is attributable to gains in outdoor high performance, which now make up 7% of our POD segment revenues. For the full year, unit sales were up 14% in this growing end market through a combination of new wins and expanding with existing large customers, particularly in the recreation and off-road vehicle applications.

I'd like to also add to what Bob said about POD's presence in health care. In 2013, about 20% of the segment revenues were from health care. Today, it's nearly 30%. Health care is a growing point of differentiation for our distribution business and is contributing to our company's ongoing movement toward higher margin, less cyclical end markets regardless of the segment.

Lastly, I want to comment on our ending balance sheet position. We finished the year with $864 million of cash which includes the proceeds from the sale of PP&S. There is a $155 million tax liability associated with the gain on the sale that will be paid in the second quarter of 2020. We are in a great position to use this liquidity to help fund the Clariant transaction, which is expected to close in the middle of 2020.

That concludes our segment and financial review. Bob will now provide some closing comments.

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Well, thanks, Brad. I'm certainly proud of our team's accomplishments this year, growing adjusted EPS 12%. But I'm most excited about our portfolio transformation and what lies ahead. With the divestiture of PP&S and pro forma for the announced Clariant transaction, over 85% of our EBITDA will be generated from specialty applications, and that's up from just 7% when we began our Specialty transformation journey a little over 10 years ago.

The new PolyOne portfolio will have significantly reduced exposure to cyclical end markets like North America housing and transportation. More than half of our sales will now come from packaging, consumer and health care. Geographically, we will be much more global as Clariant expands our geographic presence in higher growth regions, such as India, Southeast Asia and Brazil, as well as in established markets such as Europe. And the latter should not be overlooked. Entrepreneurs are often behind breakthroughs in technology. We all know this. But established markets and OEMs will also be driving forces behind sustainable solution innovation. Such solutions will, of course, be deployed around the world, and I believe that this is one of the largest opportunities in front of us.

Our focus on sustainability has never been higher. If you haven't yet read our sustainability report. I encourage you to do so. Therein, we define our 4 pillars of people, products, planet and performance. This comprehensive report not only details how we are investing in each but highlights how important culture has been for us in transforming the company. As many of you know, in 2018, we earned our first Great Place to Work Certification. And our recent employee engagement survey results demonstrate further improvement in how our associates feel about working for PolyOne. It's a huge source of pride for us and it is a competitive differentiator.

Our recently announced transaction to acquire Clariant Masterbatch has certainly garnered the preponderance of investor attention recently, as it should. But I'd like to conclude my remarks today by reminding our investors of our growing presence in composites. Five years ago, we began investing in this technology through a series of bolt-on acquisitions. Using our invest-to-grow philosophy, we added much needed commercial resources to help drive growth. And in 2019, we had our best year ever in the Composites platform. And did you ever think that you would be talking about PolyOne and 5G? With the recent acquisition of Fiber-Line, we now provide an exciting suite of solutions for the fiber optic market, a market that is expected to grow over 10% annually over the next several years.

With respect to the Clariant transaction, we are conservatively financing it so that we continue to add on to our Composites platform with additional bolt-ons. And our goal is that 5 years from now, we'll be talking about Composites as a driving force behind Specialty Engineered Materials, if it's not its own segment.

Our near-term focus now is on starting 2020 as strong as possible. As we look back on 2019, it was a choppy year in many regards. But we did grow the bottom line by double digits and we expect to do the same in 2020, excluding any impact from the Clariant transaction or related financing.

Some of you know that PolyOne turns 20 in 2020. Internally, with our incredible team of associates, we are using that as a rally cry to serve our customers with excellence, to deliver on our sustainability goals and to make this the best year ever. We have purpose, we have momentum, and we are well on our way to creating a world-class sustainable organization.

That concludes our prepared comments for today's call, and we will now open it up for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Frank Mitsch with Fermium Research.

F
Frank Mitsch
analyst

You outlined a couple of the areas as to why you were able to post $0.04 better from your December 19 guidance. And I was curious if you had any thoughts, was any -- or concerns. Was any of that a pull forward into 2019? And how is -- how are you seeing the first quarter start out since it appears that you ended the fourth quarter pretty strong?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. I don't perceive or believe that any of it was a pull forward. As you know, in our space sometimes December can be a little bit of a wild card with respect to customer buying patterns. And oftentimes, that's directly offset by what takes place in January. So for us, going into December, we had a pretty conservative view on how it would play out. And fortunately, it came in a little bit better. But don't believe that we were pulling anything in from -- or that customers did anyway from January into December.

With respect to how things have started out the year, I'd say it's probably a pretty decent continuation of what we saw in the fourth quarter. The reality is, there isn't a whole lot of macroeconomic tailwind here. So as we look at the first quarter, we do see the opportunity to expand EPS by double digits, but acknowledge a lot of that's going to come from price and mix and a little bit lower interest expense.

F
Frank Mitsch
analyst

And we're now a bit more than a month after the announcement on Clariant. Is there any update that you can give us in terms of your discussions with the regulatory agencies or if there's anything that -- else from a change perspective in terms of your outlook on synergies, et cetera, with this transaction?

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Robert Patterson
executive

No changes with respect to our outlook on synergies or timing related to the capture of those synergies. Our expectation is that regulatory approval will take somewhere between 4 and 6 months. So we expect to close the transaction sometime in the middle of this year. The filings have all been made with the exception of one, which will be done tomorrow. And as I said before, we don't expect any issues with that. So no other comments really to be made at this time with respect to related financing. I think that will be known as we move forward and get closer to the deal being done.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Sison with Wells Fargo.

M
Michael Sison
analyst

Congratulations on a nice end of the year. I just wanted to make sure I understood your outlook for 2020. I think you said that you can do double-digit growth on your own, meaning without Clariant or the financing. And if that's so, can you maybe talk about how that fleshes out with the segments into 2020?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. So first of all, thanks for asking that question because we wanted to be clear that the guidance expectation really is an organic one with respect to what we believe we'll be able to do in 2020. Of course, we do have the intention of raising equity and ultimately issuing debt to accomplish the Clariant transaction. And my comments about double-digit EPS growth don't contemplate any of those changes. So just look at what we have today and what we see for next year. We expect to deliver the double digit. So my expectation is, is that should play out with respect to probably getting -- we'll get there in the first quarter with respect to 10% or 11% EPS growth. I don't really expect, Mike, much in the way of substantial sales expansion this year. I really think it could be somewhere between 1% and 3%, as we still see some downward effects from Europe and Asia, although they were not as down as much as we thought in the fourth quarter. But are still down. And so largely, we're going to get there through a continuation of improved mix and margin improvement. So that's kind of how I see things playing out for the year as a whole and how we expect to start the first quarter. My sense is that again, Composites, in SEM will have the highest level of growth for the year and in the first quarter. I think Color will continue to see some challenges coming out of Europe in Q1, which we hope to start to improve in the second quarter.

M
Michael Sison
analyst

Right. Okay. Great. And then I think you outlined that you still see $0.85 in terms of accretion, including -- or excluding the step-up amortization for the Clariant deal. Can you maybe talk about a little bit what drives that in year 1 in terms of how much will come from integration and maybe sales growth, if any? And how do you think the Clariant business needs to perform to get there.

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. So with respect to -- first of all, the $0.85 is a pro forma figure as if the acquisition had been done on the first day of the year. And with all the synergies fully captured, our expectation is that of the $60 million of synergies we've identified, that we will achieve a run rate of $20 million by the end of the first full year of acquisitions. So that means if the deal were to get done in June of this year, we would be there by June of next year. And that is contributing to the EPS expansion to the tune of probably $0.15, $0.16 or so. We do see incremental EPS expansion from simply the acquisition of Clariant without synergies, and that's probably $0.04 to $0.08 on a per annum basis, Mike, if you want to think of it that way. And again, we haven't given any guidance with respect to how that plays out this year because we just don't know the timing of the deal.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Harrison with Seaport Global Securities.

M
Michael Harrison
analyst

Wondering if you can maybe talk a little bit about the strengths in Composites and wire and cable in EM. I think one of the questions I have is if that stuff is so strong, clearly, there are some offsets. What's going worse in Engineered Materials than you would have thought? And then maybe the second piece is specifically on Fiber-line, how sustainable can that improvement be? Is that 5G infrastructure build-out pretty steady or is it something that's going to have some fits and starts?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. So well, first of all, we have benefited this year from the acquisition of Fiber-Line, but we have also grown some of our legacy product lines in the wire and cable space. So both of those are actually doing very well this year. A lot of that in connection with fiber optic build-out. Now in our markets like the U.S. and Europe where we have the largest presence, a lot of that build-out is actually of legacy technology infrastructure, 3G and 4G. 5G is really just beginning. Obviously, China is way ahead of anyone else in that regard. But it's really just getting started. So when I look at the growth of Fiber-Line and our other wire and cable applications in this last year, just a little bit of that's driven by 5G, the rest of it by the legacy infrastructure build-out. So I do view that as very sustainable and I view that as something that's going to continue to grow over time, really over the next decade as this rolls out. It takes that long for the infrastructure to get -- to reach really critical mass.

Now you did ask -- the second part of that question is, well, what's not going well? And a lot of that has been offset by automotive demand in Europe for Engineered Materials, which is down considerably over the year. So if you're to look at SEM segment results as a whole, there's certainly a plus with the add of Fiber-Line. Organically, the growth of Composites in wire and cable partially offset by automotive demand in Europe.

M
Michael Harrison
analyst

All right. And then in the Color business, I wanted to specifically take a look at the packaging piece within that business. Has that generally been solid or is it more mixed? Maybe just comment on areas within packaging where you're seeing some strength and some weakness right now.

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. I mean packaging is actually -- if you just want to think across the board for our major markets, I'd say packaging has actually been fairly stable. We have grown in that end market, primarily as a result of the sustainable solutions we've introduced, primarily in light blocking, beverage preservative-type additives. So for us, as a whole, packaging is up. That's -- a question that's getting asked more and more frequently, of course, which is what challenges do sustainability present? As people, if they do try to use less plastic and how does that play itself out? Interestingly, if you look at 2019, rigid plastic consumption is actually up almost 2% for the year. Population growth is maybe up 1.1%. So there is a continued consumption, although I think people are doing so in smarter ways and the sustainability trend is here to stay. So we view it as primarily an upside opportunity for us.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jim Sheehan with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

J
James Sheehan
analyst

Could you talk about interest expense in the fourth quarter? Was that -- did it come in a little lower than you expected? And what should we be thinking about for interest expense in 2020?

B
Bradley Richardson
executive

Yes, Jim. I mean it came in pretty much in line with what we expected. And I would say, as you kind of look at the full year, we had $11.9 million. And as Bob mentioned, excluding, obviously, the impact of the Clariant, the run rate that we were on in the fourth quarter is probably a good run rate for the year.

J
James Sheehan
analyst

Terrific. And for your double-digit 2020 EPS growth outlook, what should we be using as the adjusted EPS base in first quarter of 2019?

B
Bradley Richardson
executive

Yes. That should be $0.43. You're talking about continuing operations, right?

J
James Sheehan
analyst

Correct. And quickly on your Color margins, when do you expect to start to see margin expansion year-over-year?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. Look, as I said, I think the first quarter is potentially a challenging quarter for the Color segment. So we should see improvements starting in the second quarter. Really, what we have seen there is just some level of volume decline associated with really transportation and fiber-related demand in Europe and Asia this year. Sustainable solutions are still a good guy from a margin standpoint. But that's really what's driven the year-over-year decline.

Operator

Our next question comes from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer.

C
Colin Rusch
analyst

Given the success that you're having with the sustainability solutions, can you talk a little bit about your pricing power and how you expect to build that on a go-forward basis?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

I mean, look, I think that from a margin standpoint, these are some of our best-performing offerings. So I do think that there is really good pricing power with respect to those solutions. I can't really put it into a relative basis for you vis-Ă -vis the other things that we have in the portfolio other than to point to, let's say, additives, for example, are always a higher-margin profile than what we have in some of our traditional or legacy Masterbatch offerings. Again, if I'm just sort of focusing on the Color side. So it could be that it's 4% or 5% higher between the 2. But look, I do expect that there's competition out there for these products as well. We're not the only one with this as an initiative. Everybody has it as a headline. But we really do think we got a great suite of products to help our customers.

C
Colin Rusch
analyst

Okay. Great. And then I'm going to combine 2 that you may not have ready answers for. But one, you just -- the FTC antitrust clearances came through. Curious about how that may impact if that came in a little bit faster than you expected and it may accelerate some of the closing activities that you've got for the Clariant business acquisition. And then also, just if you have any early indications on whether the coronavirus is impacting any of the supply chain in Asia for you guys at this point.

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. So I'll take the last one first, if I can. With respect to the coronavirus, obviously, we have -- are obviously concerned about the safety and welfare of our associates in China and around the world. At this point, we're not aware of any of our associates being impacted. It is Chinese New Year. Our plants are actually shut down presently. They're in discussion about potentially -- or the government potentially extending that shut down for a longer period of time. That remains to be seen and -- how that plays out for us. We don't have any facilities in Wuhan directly, but we do have some associates there. So we've taken measures to restrict travel for all of our associates into and out of China. And at this point, really just waiting to see how things develop over the course of the next couple of days and see if there's any other governance mandate, if you will, with respect to when plants can be operational. To the extent that there's an impact from that, we'll just have to update our investors when we know more. At this point, we haven't assumed there is because we're on Chinese New Year as we expected. So I can't -- I don't have any more to say about that, Colin.

The -- I think the first part of your question was about U.S. regulatory approval, which we just got early clearance for; that just came out. So that's a good sign. It's one that we did request early termination for. We were happy to get that. I think just this morning or last night, whenever that got published, so it's straight off the presses. I think it's a good sign that we're going to get regulatory approval in the other 12 locations where we have filed. One of the reasons why we've said 4 to 6 months really is simply just a matter of the time it can take in certain jurisdictions to go through the process. So we're not expecting any challenges, but do expect that it just could take more time. So hopefully, I'm answering the terms of your questions, Colin.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ben Kallo with Baird.

B
Ben Kallo
analyst

So just a little -- minutia maybe, but the other income during the quarter, what is that? Is it $10.7 million?

B
Bradley Richardson
executive

Other income for the quarter...

B
Ben Kallo
analyst

I'm sorry -- yes, for the quarter.

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes, it should have been closer to about $1 million on an adjusted basis, which is a combination of pension expenses below the line as well as some FX-related items.

B
Bradley Richardson
executive

Yes, there's $10 million, Ben. We have a defined benefit plan and we mark that to market in the fourth quarter of every year. And we had about a $10 million mark-to-market gain. That's really what's in the other income. And of course, in our adjusted results that we speak to the $0.34, we pulled that out because that's kind of a onetimer.

B
Ben Kallo
analyst

Yes. Got it. And then just another question on the sustainability aspect. Is there a way for you to kind of break out your revenue or have you thought about that for sustainable products or just a rough estimate? Because sometimes we get asked by investors focused on that.

B
Bradley Richardson
executive

Yes. I'm going to defer that until we've put together our next IR deck. We're doing some work on that presently to update the numbers for 2019. I'd say, a reasonable estimate is probably around $380 million to $400 million in revenue. But it meant that we've got to go back through and look at FTC code and guidelines and do the same thing. So we've done some estimates in the past. That's probably a good place to start with. It could end up being a little bit higher, but we just would need to work on finalizing those numbers for '19, which we'll get in our next investor deck.

Operator

Our next question comes from Bob Koort with Goldman Sachs.

D
Dylan Campbell
analyst

This is Dylan Campbell on for Bob. A question on raw materials. Polyethylene and polypropylene prices have come in during recent months. And with oil down recently, I'd imagine that's feeding into a couple of your other raw material baskets. How is the competitive landscape currently? And I guess, kind of what is the likelihood that you're going to be able to preserve this margin on lower raw material costs? And then, I guess, what do you embed in terms of raw material trends in your 2020 guidance?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. So I do think we have seen some benefit from those trends in the second half of 2019. Hopefully, that continues into the first part of 2020. So to this point, I'd say we have hung on to some, but I'm sure not all that. The competitive dynamic is candidly getting more challenging with respect to demand conditions, particularly in automotive markets like Europe and Asia. So I think when auto starts to pull back, that just puts a lot of competitive pressure in Engineered Materials for things that are, let's say, nylon-based, for example. So but hopefully, in Color, we're actually able to preserve that on the underlying base resins for polypropylene and polyethylene, and I think we have seen some of that. With respect to margins being down in Color, though, mostly, again, that's just volume-driven with what comments I made about Europe a few moments ago.

D
Dylan Campbell
analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then, I guess, in terms of margins, you've had pretty strong margin improvement in SEM business on a year-over-year basis, I think it's comping against the fourth quarter 2018, where I'd imagine there's fairly low utilization rates. Can you give us a sense of kind of utilization rates in that business as we head into kind of 2020? Or in other words, again, I guess, kind of what margin improvement could we see in that business, I guess, in more typically stronger seasonal quarters outside of the fourth quarter?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Right. Well, first of all, to one of your points, acknowledging that the fourth quarter of 2018 was weak is spot on. So clearly, that was a very difficult quarter for us. One of the most challenging we've had in a long time. So potentially, you've got just an easier comp in that regard. I'm sure that utilization explains some of the margin expansion as a result of that. But we're not quoting a specific capacity or utilization rate. Certainly, they're up, but it's not anything we've ever really been obsessed about, as you know, we're not thinking about volume, but thinking more about sales and value. I do expect margins in SEM to improve in 2020 which is going to be through a combination of increased sales in Composites as well as margin expansion. Partially, again, driven by, I think, a little bit of a benefit from lower raw material costs. So we'll probably have more to say about that when we get to end of the first quarter.

Operator

Our next question comes from Laurence Alexander with Jefferies.

D
Daniel Rizzo
analyst

Dan Rizzo on for Laurence. Just a quick question, how does Clariant fit into your kind of sustainable solutions portfolio? I mean is there work to be done there or do we kind of meld in seamlessly? I was just wondering how you think about that.

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Robert Patterson
executive

Well, look, I think Clariant fits in very well. They have a larger presence in packaging than we do, but look at us as being, look, very similar with respect to how we view that end market and how we're both going to participate in the megatrends that drive it. So I think it's a very good fit culturally. I'll just reiterate what I probably said in the past, in the sense that we're both ACC Responsible Care certified. We both take great care of our employees and customers and the planet as well. So I think it's going to be a really good fit. Now because we're competitors, right, I don't have perfect line of sight and visibility into product line profitability or detail. So more to come on that once they are part of our organization. But certainly believe their sustainability portfolio should mirror our own.

D
Daniel Rizzo
analyst

And then you mentioned, obviously, the weakness in European auto. I might have missed it, but you haven't really talked about North American auto. And is that not as important and what is it doing? I guess what are you seeing?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Well, it was -- it didn't impact us as much as Europe and Asia did this year. For our sales into it, it was down a couple of points in 2019 versus 2018. And it probably just hasn't garnered any attention, Dan, simply because the other 2 are so much bigger. So again, someone earlier asked a question about Composites are growing so much. It might have been Mike Harrison. If Composites are growing so much, what's going on with the rest of EM? And the preponderance of that answer really has been Europe auto. So there is some going on there from a North American auto perspective. It's down slightly. But it just doesn't hit the radar probably for that reason.

Operator

Our last question comes from Rosemarie Morbelli with G. Research.

R
Rosemarie Morbelli
analyst

If I could follow-up on a couple of items, in terms of China and the coronavirus, can you give us a feel for your exposure into that market, whether it is directly or via customers who are operating in the region?

R
Robert Patterson
executive

Well, we do have 8 facilities in China. So we are located there. We have our own employees there, nearly 1,000. So we do have a significant presence in China. We do not have any facilities located in Wuhan. The employees that are there are sales associates for the most part. And so our exposure is very similar to what you've read about anybody else who is in Shanghai, Shenzhen, Suzhou, for example, are the biggest places where we have operations. That's really what I can tell you about our size and scale. When we do business in China, typically, it's for customers who are located there, although they may be exporting their products ultimately outside the U.S.

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Rosemarie Morbelli
analyst

Can you share with us the revenues you are generating in the region?

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Robert Patterson
executive

Yes. I mean China, for PolyOne legacy is about 10% of sales.

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Rosemarie Morbelli
analyst

And just quickly, any expectations of potentially having to divest small pieces of Masterbatches in 1 region or another with -- regarding Clariant?

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Robert Patterson
executive

No, we don't have any expectations. We -- there have been some questions about mix and the percentage of their sales that are from blacks and whites. We've acknowledged that, that's higher than our own. But I also think, historically, Clariant's done a better job with those product lines and in those end markets that they serve. So my starting premise is that it's a positive. But obviously, once the deal is complete and we looked at our overall profitability and where we do business, things could change. But I'm not looking at it right now as if there is something that needs to be divested.

Thanks, again, for everybody who is joining us on the call. We look forward to giving everyone an update following our first quarter results.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.