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Earnings Call Analysis
Q3-2023 Analysis
Artivion Inc
In the third quarter, the company reported a strong financial performance with currency-adjusted revenue growth of 12% resulting in $87.9 million in revenue. Key drivers included the stent graft segment, which grew 22%, and the On-X and tissue processing both increased by 12% and 13%, respectively, facilitating a 34% increase in adjusted EBITDA to $13.9 million.
Management conveyed a sense of optimism extending beyond 2023 into 2024, maintaining a commitment to double-digit constant currency revenue growth and an ambitious target of $75 million in adjusted EBITDA by 2024.
Noteworthy clinical progress includes nearing the end of enrollment in the PERSEVERE trial, with potential FDA approval expected for AMDS in the second half of 2025. Enrolment for the NEXUS trial's chronic dissection arm is ongoing, with FDA approval anticipated by mid to late 2026.
Interim data from trials revealed reductions in major health complications, including a 64% drop in major adverse events and reductions in both major and all bleeding incidents by 85% and 73%, respectively, potentially bolstering the product's market standing.
The company decided to discontinue efforts to gain a lower INR indication for the On-X mitral valve in the U.S. after weighing FDA requirements against strategic goals. Nonetheless, the On-X mitral valve business observed an 18% increase year-to-date compared to the same period in 2022.
Management addressed concerns surrounding the potential impact of GLP-1 receptor agonists on the medical device market, concluding that these drugs would not meaningfully affect the disease incidences treated by the company's products, thereby affirming continued opportunities for double-digit top-line growth.
The third quarter saw free cash flow generation of $5.8 million, while the company noted year-over-year gains in various revenue segments, except for a slight dip in BioGlue revenue due to CE Mark-related sales adjustments. Overall, gross margins modestly improved to 64%, offsetting inflationary pressures. However, the GAAP net loss was reported at $9.8 million for the quarter.
In light of the third quarter performance and other positive factors, the company raised its full-year constant currency revenue growth forecast to 11%-12%, expecting revenues between $349 million to $351 million. Confidence remains high for meeting, if not exceeding, the $52 million-plus adjusted EBITDA guidance for 2023.
Welcome to the Artivion Third Quarter 2023 Financial Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Laine Morgan from Gilmartin Group. Thank you. You may begin.
Thanks, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining the call today. Joining me today from Artivion's management team are, Pat Mackin, CEO; and Ashley Lee, CFO. Before we begin, I'd like to make the following statements to comply with the Safe Harbor requirements of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Comments made on this call that look forward in time involve risks and uncertainties and are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The forward-looking statements include statements made as to the company's or management's intentions, hopes, beliefs, expectations or predictions of the future. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties, estimates and assumptions that may cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements.Additional information concerning certain risks and uncertainties that may impact these forward-looking statements is contained from time-to-time in the company's SEC filings and in the press release that was issued earlier today. You can also find a brief presentation with detailed highlights on today's call on the Investor Relations section of the Artivion website.Now, I'll turn it over to Artivion's CEO, Pat Mackin.
Okay. Thanks, Laine, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to report we made outstanding progress on our goals this quarter. As you will hear today, the team has made substantial progress across the board in the third quarter, commercially, operationally and financially. In addition to delivering top and bottom line growth, we also achieved clinical development milestones. As of today, we have 2 patients remaining to complete the enrollment in the PERSEVERE clinical trial in October. Also AMDS and On-X clinical study results were presented at EACTS, the European Society of Cardiac Surgery, that demonstrated unprecedented clinical outcomes. I'll detail these positive elements one by one, starting with our financial results.We delivered constant currency revenue growth of 12% year-over-year in the third quarter, resulting in $87.9 million in revenue. Our strong performance was led by improved revenue growth in our stent graft business, which increased 22%, followed by On-X 13%, tissue processing 12% when compared to the third quarter 2022 on a constant currency basis.We are also benefiting from expansion of our commercial footprint through regulatory approvals in new geographies. Our strong top line performance led to $13.9 million in non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter. This is a 34% increase compared to the third quarter of last year.We expect our strong momentum in the first 9 months to continue through the fourth quarter and into 2024. We're very optimistic about our future, as we've ever been.At our Investor Day in March of 2022, we committed to delivering compounded annual double digit constant currency revenue growth through 2024, also driving further operating leverage and adjusted EBITDA of $75 million in 2024. Again, we are reiterating our expectation to achieve these goals.Our commercial team is also executing extremely well. As I mentioned earlier, stent graft revenues grew 22% on a constant currency basis in the third quarter compared to the third quarter of last year, driven by improved supply and strong performance in AMDS and NEXUS.We anticipate demand to remain strong for the balance of '23 and beyond for our stent graft products, which should continue to sustain our strong revenue performance.Additionally, On-X revenues increased 13% compared to the third quarter last year on a constant currency basis, and we'll continue to take market share globally with the only mechanical aortic heart valve that can be used with an INR of 1.5 to 2.0 in the aortic position. We believe our valve is the best aortic valve in the market and our market share gains each year clearly support this view.And finally, tissue processing revenues increased 12% compared to the third quarter of last year on a constant currency basis, primarily due to pricing initiatives.As you may recall, part of our organic growth story has been to expand into new markets. We have done that effectively and have successfully expanded our operations in APAC and Latin America.Through new regulatory approvals and commercial footprint expansion, APAC and Latin America delivered constant currency revenue growth of 21% and 22%, respectively, compared to the third quarter of last year. We expect these regions to be important growth drivers over the coming years as we continue to leverage our industry-leading product portfolio further into these regions.In addition to our strong financial performance, we made significant progress on our clinical programs and saw extremely impressive data readouts for On-X and AMDS at the recent European Association of Cardiac Surgery in Vienna.First, I'm extremely pleased to report that we've nearly completed the enrollment for PERSEVERE, which is our IDE trial for the U.S. PMA, consisting of 93 participants who've experienced an acute Type A aortic dissection. At this point, we only have 2 patients remaining to complete enrollment in the trial.As a reminder, the combined primary efficacy and safety endpoints of this trial are a reduction in all-cause mortality, new disabling stroke, myocardial infarction and new onset renal failure requiring dialysis, as well as, the occurrence of DANE tears, which are distal anastomotic new entry tears, which are associated with increased risk for reintervention and mortality.DANE can occur in up to 70% of patients following hemiarch repair without AMDS and allows continued blood flow into the false lumen created by the dissection.Interim results of the PERSEVERE study, which is our FDA pivotal trial, have shown there have been no DANE tears detected in any patients treated with AMDS nor were there any DANE tears reported in the DART study after 3 years of follow-up. As I will discuss shortly, clinicians have so far seen incredible outcomes with AMDS across these endpoints.Additionally, the FDA has granted us continued access for approval to continue our enrolling of up to 40 additional patients in the PERSEVERE study, so physicians and patients in need can access this life-saving technology while we pursue regulatory approvals.Following the 1-year follow-up period, and assuming the trial meets its endpoints, we continue to believe that we should receive FDA approval for the AMDS device in the second half of 2025.In addition, our partner, Endospan, is making progress on its U.S. IDE trial called TRIOMPHE for its NEXUS aortic repair stent graft system. As a reminder, the PMA will be based on the results of 60 patients in the chronic dissection arm of the trial. At this point, there are 41 patients enrolled out of 60 in the trial.Based on the current enrollment rate, the pivotal arm of this trial should enroll in the first half of '24. And after a year of follow-up and a year for regulatory review, this would put NEXUS on track for an approval sometime in mid to late 2026.To reiterate, if these PMA trials proceed as anticipated, we expect FDA approval on AMDS in '25 and NEXUS in '26. At that time, assuming we exercise our option for Endospan, these 2 products would significantly increase our addressable market opportunity.At the recent EACTS meeting in Vienna, 2 of our products were featured in late-breaking presentations. First, interim data from the AMDS PERSEVERE clinical trial, which is a 30-day combined primary endpoint for data in the first 52 out of 93 patients that were enrolled, showed clinically meaningful reduction of all-cause mortality in primary major adverse events. As a reminder, the safety endpoint to this IDE trial is based on litter controls for patients with malperfusion.In this reference cohort, 58% of patients had greater than or equal to one major adverse event. The target goal of this trial was a 31% reduction to reach 40% of patients with greater than or equal to one major adverse event. The data in the 52 out of 93 patients that was presented at EACTS showed a 21% of the patients had greater than or equal to one major adverse event. That's a 64% reduction.We are incredibly pleased with the very positive interim results, which have demonstrated the life-saving nature of AMDS, including a statistically significant reduction in mortality, renal failure causing dialysis and myocardial infarction. We expect this data will drive AMDS device adoption and hence revenue growth in markets where AMDS is currently approved.Second, data from our 510 patient On-X heart valve low INR post market study with a mean follow-up of 3.4 years, showed a statistically lower composite primary endpoint of thromboembolism, valve thrombosis in major bleeding. These results are driven by an 85% reduction in major bleeding and a 73% reduction in all bleeding.This data reflected an improvement in outcomes compared to the original On-X low INR pivotal arm, which showed about a 63% reduction first published in 2014. This is the basis of our current low INR label.With this data, we are increasingly confident in our ability to gain further market share globally with On-X. It's the only mechanical aortic heart valve that can be maintained in an INR of 1.5 to 2.0, which is backed by recommendations from ACC, the American College of Cardiology, and AHA, American Heart Association, guideline for patients with valvular disease.Finally, I want to let you know that we're discontinuing our pursuit of the lower INR indication in the U.S. for On-X mitral valve. As we previously reported to you, while the trial did not show an increase in thromboembolic or valve thrombosis event rates, it missed its primary non-inferiority endpoint.After several discussions with the FDA in which they informed us that would require additional clinical data to consider the indication for approval, we've determined not to invest in the significant time and resources it would take to secure the additional data. We previously stated that securing PMA approval for low INR indication for the On-X mitral valve was not critical for us to achieve our growth objectives that we've communicated.Furthermore, I'm pleased to report that our On-X mitral valve business has increased 18% year-to-date compared to the same period in 2022. We believe this is partially due to the compelling clinical results for patients in the trial who have been treated with the On-X mitral valve and were being maintained at a lower INR.Based on the positive data from this trial, we do plan to seek change in the existing guidelines for use of warfarin in connection with the On-X mitral valve as we did with the On-X aortic valve. I want to thank our investigators and subjects who participated in the trial.Before I turn the call over to Ashley, I'd like to take a minute to talk to you about the impact of the GLP-1 receptor agonist class on medical device stocks. Right now, investors are trying to determine what the impact these drugs will have on medical procedures.Over the past couple of weeks, myself personally and our team have met with over 25 cardiovascular, epidemiologists, preventive medicine cardiologists, cardiac and vascular surgeons regarding the potential impact of this class of drug on the disease states that we treat, specifically aortic valve disease in patients under 65 and aortic dissections and aneurysms.Based on the clinical data published to date, as well as, the extensive research into risk factors in these diseases, our research indicates that GLP-1s will not have any impact on our incidence rates of these diseases we treat and the corresponding addressable market opportunity. We've included 2 slides, Slide 11 and 12 in the presentation included in our Investor Relations section of our website that summarize our research.More specifically, regarding aortic valve disease, the patient population we treat are under the age of 65. The primary risk factor basically is linked to a preexisting condition for those patients that have a congenital valve malformation called a bicuspid aortic valve, which make up about 60% of the patients that we treat.Further, there are very large studies with over 100,000 patients that have shown there is no relationship between obesity and aortic stenosis or valve replacement in ages under the age of 65.Based on our conversations with key opinion leaders and based on the significant data stemming from these studies on the matter, GLP-1s will have minimal to no impact on the incident rates of aortic valve replacement surgery in patients under the age of 65.Similarly, for aortic dissections and aortic aneurysms, the primary risk factors are preexisting conditions for those patients with these disease are familial or connective tissue disorders such as Marfan, high blood pressure, smoking and high cholesterol. Similarly, these very large studies for aortic aneurysms and dissections have shown no relationship to obesity.Further, GLP-1s have minimal impact on blood pressure. Based on our conversations with key opinion leaders and based on the significant number of studies on the matter, GLP-1 should have a minimal impact on the incident rate for aortic dissection and aneurysms.Furthermore, even if this category did have some minimal impact on our addressable markets, you must keep in mind that the largest growth opportunities for Artivion over the next several years is the introduction of our novel stent graft technologies in the U.S. and Japan and other developed markets around the world. And in those markets, we are starting from 0.So in conclusion, we do not feel GLP-1s will have a meaningful impact on the incident rates of the disease states that we treat. And even if they did have some minor impact, the new addressable markets that we are eventually moving into provide ample opportunity for us continuing to develop -- delivering double digit growth on the top line for many years.With that, I'll now turn the call over to Ashley.
Thanks, Pat, and good afternoon, everyone. Our revenues were $87.9 million for the third quarter of 2023, up 14% on a GAAP basis and 12% on a constant currency basis, both compared to Q3 of 2022. Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA increased 34% from $10.4 million in the third quarter of 2022 to $13.9 million in the third quarter of 2023. After generating $5.1 million of free cash flow in the second quarter of this year, we generated $5.8 million of free cash flow in the third quarter. Importantly, on a trailing 12-month basis, we are free cash flow positive and expect that free cash flow on a trailing 12-month basis will continue to improve from this point going forward.On a year-over-year basis, in the third quarter of 2023, stent graft revenues increased 30%, On-X revenues increased 14%, tissue processing revenues increased 12% and BioGlue decreased 7%. On a constant currency basis compared to the third quarter of 2022, stent graft revenues grew 22%, On-X revenues grew 13%, tissue processing revenues increased 12% and BioGlue revenues decreased 8%.To add some color on the decline in BioGlue revenue this quarter. In Q3 2022, we did not have CE Mark, and were using derogations to sell in Europe. At the end of Q3 2022, our derogations for the U.K. and France were set to expire. So our customers ordered an additional $1.5 million of BioGlue so that they would not run out of this important product. As a result, we had lower Q4 -- sales in Q4 of 2022 and expect BioGlue to return to growth in Q4 of 2023.On a regional basis, third quarter 2023 revenues in Asia Pacific increased to 21%, Latin America increased to 29%. And North America and Europe both increased 13%, all compared to the third quarter of 2022.On a constant currency basis, revenues in Asia Pacific increased 21%. Latin America increased 22%. North America increased 13% and Europe increased 7%, all compared to the third quarter of 2022.Gross margins improved to 64% in Q3 compared to 63.4% in the third quarter of 2022. This increase was driven by price increases and product mix, partially offset by inflationary impacts on materials and labor.G&A expenses in the third quarter were $51.1 million compared to $41.1 million in the third quarter of 2022. Excluding charges, which primarily consists of adjustments to the fair value of contingent consideration related to the Ascyrus acquisition, G&A expenses were $44.7 million for the third quarter of '23 compared to $39.9 million in the third quarter of 2022.R&D expenses for the third quarter were $6.4 million compared to $11.8 million in the third quarter of 2022. The decrease in R&D spending resulted primarily from the cessation of the PROACT Xa trial last September.Other income and expenses of $8.2 million includes $6.3 million in net interest expense and foreign currency translation losses of approximately $1.9 million.On the bottom line, we reported GAAP net loss of approximately $9.8 million or $0.24 per fully diluted share in the third quarter. Net loss for the third quarter of '23 includes pretax charges of $6.2 million related to contingent consideration for the acquisition of AMDS and the impact of valuation allowances on deferred tax assets.Non-GAAP net income was $749,000 or $0.02 per share in the third quarter. Non-GAAP net income includes foreign currency losses and excludes business development and other nonrecurring charges.As of September 30, 2023, we had approximately $53 million in cash, $313 million in debt and the full $30 million available to us under our revolving credit facility. Please refer to our press release for additional information about our non-GAAP results, including a reconciliation of these results to our GAAP results.And now for our updated outlook for 2023. Given our performance through the third quarter, our pricing initiatives, improvement in supply of stent grafts, and FDA approval for PerClot, we are raising our revenue guidance and now expect constant currency revenue growth of between 11% and 12% for the full year compared to the previous range of 10% to 12%.We expect revenues to be in the range of $349 million to $351 million compared to our previous range of $342 million to $350 million.With our strong third quarter performance, continued top line revenue growth, general expense management and a decrease in R&D spending. We have increasing confidence that we will meet or exceed our adjusted EBITDA guidance of a minimum of $52-plus million for 2023. These factors also allow us to remain on track to meet our $75 million 2024 adjusted EBITDA commitment we made in March of last year at our Investor Day.In regards to our capital structure, we continue to monitor market conditions and evaluate options to address the maturity of our convertible debt in July 2025.As we continue to execute on our strategy and drive EBITDA and free cash flow higher, we believe our options to address our capital structure will continue to improve.And finally, our Term Loan B contains no financial covenants to maintain unless we were to have more than $7.5 million drawn on our revolving credit facility at the end of any calendar quarter, which we do not.As of now, we have the full $30 million available under our credit facility. We do not foresee the need to draw on it. As a reminder, our convertible notes do not contain any financial covenants.Overall, our strong financial performance and the expectation it will continue through 2024, affords us greater flexibility as we continue -- as we consider our future obligations and ways to increase shareholder value.With that, I'll turn the call back over to Pat for his closing comments.
Thanks, Ashley. So as you've just heard, our business is performing extremely well. We exceeded our revenue goals, increased guidance, continue to expand our markets and advance our clinical pipeline, which will meaningfully expand our addressable market if approvals are gained. These combined factors make us highly confident that our growth prospects through '23 and beyond.We expect future growth to be driven by the following: First, our continued strong growth in our stent graft business, primarily due to our improved supply and product adoption. Second, our accelerating AMDS growth driven by the 30-day PERSEVERE study data that was presented at EACTS, showing a 64% reduction in major adverse events compared to literature control.Third, continued market share gains for On-X driven by the recent 510 patient data that was presented at EACTS, showing an 85% reduction in major bleeding. Fourth, growth in our proprietary SGPV SynerGraft Valve, which is driven by price increases, the growth of the Ross procedure and our increased ability to deliver from a supply standpoint.Fifth, the continued growth that we've seen in Asia Pacific and Latin America from our channel investments and our new regulatory approvals. Six, our continued growth in PerClot due to the PMA approval in May of 2023.And finally, in the midterm, our robust clinical pipeline, more specifically, the completion of patient enrollment in the AMDS PERSEVERE trial, continued enrollment in the Endospan's NEXUS TRIOMPHE trial, combined, we expect these 2 opportunities to significantly expand our total addressable market in '25 and '26.We have delivered on consistent double digit revenue growth this year. And as you just heard, we have great momentum as we finish '23 and head into '24. I will wrap up my comments with some thoughts as we head into '24.First, as we commented on our March '22 Investor Day, we are committed to delivering double digit revenue growth.Second, we have made the necessary investments in our channels, our factories and our pipeline, and you will see the continued benefit of those investments in '24. As such, our plan is to deliver $75 million of adjusted EBITDA, which will reduce our net leverage to less than 3x despite the headwinds we faced from inflation and its impact on gross margins.In addition, on a trailing 12-month basis, we are cash flow positive and expect that free cash flow will continue to improve going forward.Finally, I want to thank our employees around the globe for delivering an exceptional third quarter.With that, operator, please open the lines for questions.
Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. And we'll take our first question from Rick Wise from Stifel.
This is John on for Rick today. I just wanted to start off with the 2 kind of really encouraging datasets we saw at EACTS '23 and maybe how we could think about those and the impact it could have potentially on financial performance as we look into 2024. Just specifically, I want to kind of hear. Are you hearing anything from the field on just what your reps are saying, what they're hearing from doctors? Could these datasets, both, potentially be growth accelerants as we look to next year and you could grow even faster and expand margins greater than expected?
Yes. So maybe I'll take them one at a time. So the 2 datasets that I referenced in my comments were the AMDS PERSEVERE. That was the first 52 patients out of 93. I think the overwhelming feedback from clinicians is, this is kind of game-changing data, right? So we're not -- we're about to finish the trial. We'll get the full dataset and hopefully have that presented in January. But you're seeing a 64% reduction in major adverse events versus the literature control that we're being -- that we're using with the FDA. So as a reminder, the patients that have acute type A dissections with malperfusion, right, so blood going in the wrong false lumen. In the literature control, if you look at the average of those results, at least one of those patients had 58% -- or 50% of the patients had at least one major adverse event.The bar that the FDA set was around a 30% reduction that got to 40%. We delivered in the -- at least in the interim analysis, a 64% reduction, which is a 20% of the patients had an MAE. That is a huge change. statistically significant difference in mortality, patients requiring dialysis and MI.So we expect -- and I mentioned this, we expect that data as it gets around, will continue to drive the growth of AMDS, which is already growing very rapidly. But I think it portends for a very big opportunity in the U.S. once we launch that.I think the second one on the On-X post-approval data, that's a 510 valve study. That's a very large study. And as a reminder, the original On-X low INR study, which we're the only company that has it, we showed about a 63% reduction in bleeding, and that's what the PMA and the expanded label was based on.This was a post-approval trial required by the FDA in kind of real-world patients. We're about 3.5 -- we have 3.4 years of follow-ups in those patients. There'll be more data presented at AATS in May. But you're basically seeing an 85% reduction in major bleeding and a 73% reduction in all bleeding. So it just further contributes to the body of evidence around the On-X aortic valve and nobody else has and we're just going to continue to go after market share with a market-leading technology.
That's helpful. And then as a follow-up here. You talked a bit about ramping adjusted EBITDA to $75 million next year, you're growing strong so far this year, 30% this quarter. My question is I just want to better understand the inputs we're getting there.I get that the double digit top line growth is critical, but we're also going out to see some leverage on the G&A and the R&D line. So it'd just be really helpful if you could kind of talk through how you're going to generate that leverage, how quickly it's going to be more visible and just kind of the ramp throughout the year?
Yes. So there are multiple factors, and I mentioned some of them in kind of my closing, right? So we have a lot of things going in our favor, right? We just talked about the AMDS data, we talked about the On-X data. The other big thing is our SynerGraft pulmonary valve is growing very rapidly. The Ross procedure -- the data on the Ross procedure that's come out is phenomenal. That procedure is going extremely rapidly. We're the market share leader by far in that. We've taken some price increases there, but we've also done a lot to improve our supply. So that's going to be a real growth driver for next year.So this year, a lot of it was pricing. Next year, you're going to see a lot from a unit standpoint. So we expect that pulmonary valve business to continue to grow. That's one of the big contributors.I think the other piece is, I mentioned in my comments. I mean, we're building a company here. So we've invested heavily, right? We've invested heavily in Latin America and Asia Pacific. We've invested heavily in the pipelines, our factories, clinical trials, all these things that we're talking about.And for 2024, we've made the investments. We're delivering double digit growth, and you're going to see us drive rapid EBITDA acceleration by the top line comments that I made, as well as, managing the middle of the income statement, because we basically made the investments we've needed to make, and you're going to see significant drop-through on the P&L next year.
And just if I could sneak one more in. I just wanted to better understand the price versus volume contribution to third quarter growth and how we should be thinking about that for '24. Is there a potential with these 2 datasets to potentially increase prices again? Or are there any other areas you might be targeting for a price increase?
Yes. I mean we look at pricing every year, and we've taken some pretty significant price increases where we have highly differentiated products, which again is the majority of our portfolio. So we will look at that on a case-by-case basis. But clearly, that is going to be another focus for us in 2024, as where appropriate, to take additional price increases.
And we'll take our next question from Suraj Kalia from Oppenheimer.
This is [ Seamus ] on for Suraj. Congrats on the quarter. Just kind of looking at On-X. How should we start -- how should we have thought about same store -- new store, same-store sales in 3Q and kind of 4Q and thoughts on '24 for that as well, if you can.
Yes. So we've delivered 13% growth in On-X for the last 5 years. And it's been a combination of -- it's not just -- when you think about a hospital, sometimes we'll get -- we'll get into a new hospital with one surgeon and other surgeons may use another valve. So it's, to your analogy, same-store. But then expanding in those -- in that store with other surgeons.So we've had very good penetration into accounts. We still have more to go. This expansion in Asia and Latin America, we've seen very nice growth in those markets. So I think this data is just out. I mean, literally, this data is not even a month old, so our commercial teams are just getting out there and making their rounds with the clinicians.But we're going to be very aggressive. And we think this is the best valve on the market and there's no reason people should be using another one, because they don't have the data. So we see this as a big opportunity for us.And like I said, we've guided 1.5 years ago, we told people we could grow On-X 10% to 15%. We've been growing at the higher end of that range. And I think we're looking at more of the same going forward.
One quick one for Ashley. How should we start thinking about FX exposure as we move into 2024?
Well, as we round out the end of 2023, we certainly have a little bit of a tailwind. Again, with the majority of our OUS business being in Europe, the relationship that we pay the most attention to is the euro/USD. And again, we should have a little bit of a tailwind in the fourth quarter of this year. If you look at the forecast for 2024 -- and again, we just look at the consensus, we're not FX experts, but we look at the consensus. And the consensus right now indicates that the dollar should start weakening from these levels going into 2024, which, again, should create another tailwind for us if that in fact happens.
And just one kind of last one, if I can sneak in. What are your kind of thoughts on these low-risk TAVR signals that were presented at TCT for PARTNER 3 and EVOLUT and how it relates to you guys?
Yes. I mean, we saw a joint press release that came out from both the STS and the European Association of Cardiac Surgeons, we can make that available to you. It was pretty direct basically saying -- I can read you the comments from -- this is from the press release, from the 2 biggest cardiac surgery societies. Given that the fastest growing operation in the STS National Database over the last 5 years is TAVR explant. We advised a more follow-up and time be given to the existing low-risk trial before basing this in this patient population. They also make a bunch of comments about -- that they're comparing apples and oranges. About 26% of the patients in these trials, the SAVR group, the surgical group had a concomitant procedure done with it, whether it was a CABG or whatever, which comes with a higher risk score. And so this is, again, a direct quote.We call on investigators for both PARTNER 3 and EVOLUT low-risk trials to publish their results for isolated SAVR versus isolated TAVR and see what the real data is. And the final comment was, We recommend caution prior to adopting TAVR-first strategy in low-risk patients, particularly those patients with characteristics not specifically studied in these trials. So, tell me what you think about that?And I would encourage you guys, look, this is from the -- these aren't my words. This is the 2 most powerful cardiac surgery societies in the world that issued a joint press release after those 2 trials were presented.
And we'll take our next question from Mike Matson from Needham.
This is Joseph on for Mike. Congrats on the quarter, and we do appreciate the commentary on the GLP-1 impact or I guess lack thereof. Looking at stent graphs, we've seen like 4 quarters of straight acceleration, at least on a reported basis. Just kind of curious, where is all the strength coming from? What's going on with that? Do you expect -- I guess, based off of the guide, it looks like they're going to be continued acceleration into the fourth quarter, maybe not. But maybe if you could just frame 2024, especially in that segment for us, that would be helpful.
Yes. So we talked about it in the first quarter, right? We -- if you go back a year, we were having challenges hiring people in Germany and we ended up having to raised labor rates, and we hired like 100 people in the last 6 months of Q4 and Q1. So we are fully staffed. We are -- we've got a brand new facility. It's operating on all cylinders. We delivered 100 -- our operations team delivered 100% of what we asked them to. We have full consignment. We have full inventory. And that was, frankly, the rate limiting factor for us.We only grew 8% or 9% in the first quarter, and I told you back then, watch what happens when the supply kicks in. And we grew 19% in the second quarter and 22% in the third quarter. So we're well positioned. And what's driving the revenue is the products, right?We've got some great new products and a great sales team, and we expect to keep doing more of the same. And it's a very proprietary portfolio in the fastest-growing segment of the stent graft market. So again, we're very, very bullish on that technology continuing to grow.
That's helpful, and makes a lot of sense. And then I guess just one more. You guys laid out the EBITDA expectations for this year and 2024 talking a lot about operating leverage, but I was wondering if you could maybe get into any potential gross margin expansion. I see it in the slide deck. I guess the question essentially is how much gross margin expansion? Is it more just back to some of the historic levels? Do you guys think you can go beyond that into that -- even the higher 60s, 68, 69?
Yes. So we are giving -- I mean, we keep commenting back to this investor presentation that we did almost -- it was in March '22, so 18, 19 months ago. Where we talked about, we're going to -- we committed at that point to double digit top line growth and to $75 million of EBITDA in 2024. We're not giving -- I'm not giving revenue guidance for '24. I mean the $75 million is pretty much where we're at on the EBITDA. So -- but as far as gross margin, I mean, we've had to swallow a lot on the inflation side between materials going up, between labor rates going up. So it's really not going to be driven by margin increases next year. Now we're going to be working to get them up, but it's not really a margin-driven thing. It's really a top line revenue, as well as some really nice performance in some of our product lines above what we originally thought they were going to do where we have very strong positions.And also, I think there are some pricing opportunities. But I'm just -- I'm not giving gross margin details yet. We're not that far along in our planning process to get out 2024 gross margin.
Congratulations on the quarter and continued progress, you guys.
And we'll take our next question from Frank Takkinen from Lake Street Capital.
I wanted to follow-up on the double digit growth guidance you've put out there, Pat. I think it's been talked about in a couple of different frameworks today. I wanted to ask a little bit more specifically on growth by product line. I know throughout the Investor Day, it's stents leading the way than On-X and then preservation in BioGlue in the single-digits or low single-digit range. It feels like you add all that up and we can make 10% relatively easily achievable, if I can say that, maybe it's downplaying it too much. But I just was hoping you could kind of walk through that thought process and how you think about growth from each line item in '24.
Yeah, no. It's a good question, Frank. So I think the difference is, if you go back to that Investor Day, we basically said we thought we could grow stent grafts 15% to 20%. I think that holds. We've been at the upper end of that range off late. We said On-X should grow 10% to 15%. We've been at the upper end of that range off late.BioGlue, we said it was kind of a low single-digit item. It was a little off this quarter because of what Ashley commented on. It wasn't anything material. It was because of the derogations last year. But I think that still holds.I think the big difference is, we said kind of like 5% to 7% on tissue, I think that's where there's upside. Because of some of the things -- this Ross procedure, which is a great operation in patients under 60 for their aortic valve, the data that's come out on that is phenomenal. And there's just a huge growth in that operation in all the major aortic cardiac centers.And we've -- this year, it's been more -- we benefited more on the pricing side. But we've put things in place to significantly enhance our production and to meet the demands of that growth. So we expect that to be a major contributor. And I think that's the one segment that's going to go up from what you had from the Investor Day last year or 18 months ago.
Got it. And then maybe on On-X, more specifically, we've talked about this market in the past, but I think it's been at least a couple of quarters since we've talked about the entire mechanical aortic valve market. Clearly, you continue to take share outpacing market growth. Can you maybe just talk a little bit where the market stands today? And kind of how much more market you think is available to take and then how that's going to compare to market growth or pricing increases over time?
Yes. So the worldwide mechanical valve market is around $250 million. It's not perfect data. I mean, because it gets loose when you get outside the U.S. and Europe. It's about a $250 million market for aortic and mitral. And depending on where you are in the world. So for, for example, our market share in the U.S. aortic is probably over 60% at this point. So we still got 40% more to go. It's lower in Europe and it's way lower as you get outside the U.S. So we've got lots of room to grow internationally as well as in Europe. And the data that we've got out right now clearly is a catalyst for continued On-X growth going forward.
And then maybe for the last one, just for Ashley. If you could talk about free cash flow. You guys have put a couple of quarters together in a row now with good cash generation. Balance sheet looks better each quarter. So maybe talk about anything you're comfortable sharing about free cash flow expectations on a go-forward basis?
Yes. Pat, has mentioned this a couple of times. We are going to give out our formal 2024 guidance in February of next year. We did have a second quarter of really strong free cash flow generation. And we've done a lot of things internally to focus on that, whether it's expense control or better working capital management. It's something that we're laser-focused on. I made the comment in the call that we are now free cash flow positive on a trailing 12-month basis. And we expect that we will be free cash flow positive on a 12-month basis going forward, and we expect that to improve each quarter as we move forward.
[Operator Instruction] And we'll take our next question from Jeffrey Cohen from Ladenburg Thalmann.
Just a couple of short ones from our side as you've addressed many of the issues. So was there an update -- I heard a quick mention about PerClot. Was there an update as far as manufacturing over the past quarter and what that looks like on your end from manufacturing and transferring that at some point.
Yes. So we basically -- this is a refresher. So we're currently producing PerClot for Baxter. They've done a very nice job with the product and kind of meeting exactly where we thought they would be. We basically -- we don't have perfect information, Jeff, on this. But it looks like we will be producing PerClot for them all of '24 and maybe into the first half of '25. And again, it will depend on how their transfer goes.And we'll have -- I think as we get closer, we'll have better data. But I think for -- we're expecting to have it in all of '24. And then we'll know more kind of mid to late '24, how their transfer is looking. So that's about as good as I can do for right now.
That's helpful. And then secondly, could you talk a little bit about your commercial channels, at least ex U.S. as far as some of the territories that went from direct to distributors. And will any of those be moving in the near future? Is it something on your to-do list as far as some of the territories moving either direction?
Yes. So we've had -- as you know, we've had a pretty deliberate strategy over the last 5 years to build out our channels in Asia Pacific and Latin America. I mean when I joined the company 9 years ago, we had one person in Asia and nobody in Latin America. Now we've got probably a team of 25 in Asia and probably a dozen people in Latin America. We're going to basically -- for 24, we're going to slow down the investment there. I think we've got good infrastructure. There's more to do, but we're not doing in '24. I think we've invested what we need to invest for where we are as a company. We did, for example -- we went to direct in Greece this past year, kind of in our European region. And we'll look to do those things from time to time, but not '24.So we're kind of -- our channel -- we've got about 185 direct reps right now around the world, and we're kind of fixed there for next year, and that's part of the, why you're going to see the EBITDA drop through, because we're not going to be investing in further channel expansion next year.
And that was our last question. I'd like to turn the floor back to Pat Mackin, President and CEO, for closing remarks.
Well, thanks for joining the call. And as you can tell, we're extremely positive about how things are going at the company. We've beat and raised every quarter. We had a great Q3. We kind of are -- we're hitting on all cylinders. We've got great new data. Our factories are firing on all cylinders. We're delivering the numbers we told you we would deliver. And we feel very confident about our ability to deliver double digit growth next year with $75 million of EBITDA. So look forward to next quarter, and we'll be giving out our 2024 guidance. So thanks for joining.
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