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Q2-2024 Analysis
ADT Inc

ADT Reports 150th Year Milestone and Strong Financials

ADT's second-quarter earnings report highlights its resilience and innovation as it celebrates 150 years in business. The company posted a 3% increase in total revenue to $1.2 billion and achieved strong adjusted free cash flow of $251 million, up 14% from the previous year. Adjusted net income was $156 million, or $0.17 per share. ADT reaffirmed its full-year guidance despite a 2% decrease in adjusted EBITDA due to a legal settlement. The company's new ADT+ platform and partnerships with Google and Yale Lock aim to enhance customer experience and drive future growth.

Strong Financial Performance

ADT delivered a robust financial performance in the second quarter of 2024, highlighted by a 3% revenue increase from the prior year, reaching $1.2 billion. Adjusted free cash flow was especially strong at $251 million, up 14% from the previous year, driven by improved profitability and lower cash interest due to debt reduction. Year-to-date, adjusted free cash flow has soared to $362 million, marking a more than 50% increase.

Resilient Business Model Amid Macroeconomic Challenges

Despite higher interest rates and fewer housing relocations—key drivers for new subscriptions—ADT has managed to maintain a stable and resilient business model. The company recorded a gross revenue attrition rate of 12.9% while achieving a revenue payback period of 2.2 years. This performance underscores the durability and flexibility of ADT's business.

Introduction of ADT+ Platform

A significant milestone for ADT is the nationwide rollout of its proprietary ADT+ platform, which offers enhanced installation flexibility, stronger integrations with smart home devices such as Google's Nest ecosystem, and innovative features like Trusted Neighbor. This new feature allows for convenient and secure access to homes for trusted individuals, further boosting customer satisfaction and retention.

Strategic Investments and Partnerships

ADT continues to make strategic investments, particularly in product and technology development. The company has also expanded its partnership with Google to integrate cloud AI technology into its operations, focusing initially on call center efficiencies and alarm classification. Additionally, ADT is advancing its partnership with State Farm, showing notable increases in both installation and new customer recurring monthly revenue (RMR).

Capital Structure and Debt Management

In the second quarter, ADT repaid $150 million in debt, reducing its overall net debt to $7.4 billion, down approximately $2 billion from the previous year. The company also achieved its net debt-to-adjusted EBITDA ratio target of 3x. With no significant debt maturities until 2026 and a weighted average cost of debt of 4.5%, ADT has significantly strengthened its financial flexibility.

Shareholder Returns

ADT has demonstrated a strong commitment to returning capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. During the quarter, the company returned $50 million via dividends and $175 million year-to-date, including market share repurchases. The company's stock remains attractive at current prices, with $257 million in remaining share repurchase authorization.

Guidance and Future Outlook

Looking ahead, ADT reiterated its full-year guidance, even as it anticipates third-quarter adjusted EBITDA to align more closely with the first quarter due to a legal settlement. The company's strong first-half performance and strategic initiatives position it well for continued success in 2024 and beyond. The introduction of innovative products and increased focus on AI and customer experience enhancements are expected to drive long-term growth.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2024-Q2

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Operator

Thank you for standing by. I'd now like to welcome everyone to the ADT Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Elizabeth Landers. Please go ahead.

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Elizabeth Landers
executive

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining today's call to discuss ADT's Second Quarter 2024 Results. Speaking on today's call will be ADT's Chairman, President and CEO, Jim DeVries; and our Chief Financial Officer, Jeff Likosar; Wayne Thorsen, Chief Business Officer, will also join us following the prepared remarks as we take analysts questions.

Earlier this morning, we issued a press release and slide presentation of our financial results. These materials are available on our website at investor.adt.com.

Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that both the former Commercial and Solar segment are reported as discontinued operations. Financials and metrics for current and historical periods discussed on this call will be for continuing operations, except for cash flows, which include amounts related to the Commercial business through the date of sale and Solar through the second quarter of 2024.

Today's remarks also include forward-looking statements that represent our beliefs or expectations about future events. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Some of the factors that may cause differences are described in our SEC filings. We will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures on the call. The most directly comparable GAAP measures along with a reconciliation to those measures can be found in our earnings presentation on the ADT Investor Relations website.

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James DeVries
executive

Good morning, and thank you to everyone for joining us today to discuss ADT's second quarter results. As we've passed the midpoint of the year, ADT is well positioned to deliver the full year financial guidance we outlined in February. I am pleased with our overall performance this quarter and our first half, particularly against the current macroeconomic backdrop, which includes higher interest rates and fewer relocations, a traditional catalyst for new subscribers.

We continued to grow revenue up 3% versus the prior year while remaining focused on balancing profitability and investments for the future. And importantly, we again delivered very strong adjusted free cash flows at $251 million, up 14% from the prior year. Gross revenue attrition was 12.9% for the quarter with revenue payback at 2.2 years. This performance is a testament to the durability, resilience and flexibility of ADT's business model. Jeff will provide more details about our financials and full year outlook in a few moments, but I first would like to share a few comments about our business and strategic progress.

I'd also like to take a moment to highlight a pivotal point in ADT's history. This month, ADT will be celebrating an extraordinary milestone, our 150th year in business. We are among just a few iconic companies to have been founded in the 1800s and still thriving today. The key to ADT's enduring success has been our exceptional ability to adapt and innovate. It goes without saying that our people have driven our business, and I want to thank the dedicated teams of professionals that have built and driven this company over several generations. We now stand at a pivotal moment in our company's history, ready to write the next chapters of the ADT story fueled by thoughtful innovation and our current industry-leading team. I could not be more excited about this chapter and remain humbled by the opportunity to lead this great company.

Today, as we progress into the chapters to come, we are focused on investing in the next-generation product and experience ecosystem and creating even more reasons for customers to choose ADT and stay with ADT.

A key component of our future is our new and proprietary ADT+ platform, which I'm pleased to share is now available across the country for a growing portion of our professionally installed residential customers. This follows our rollout for self-setup customers last year. Our ADT+ platform includes a new app, refreshed hardware and offers a number of advantages, including enhanced installation flexibility and configurability. Importantly, it also offers additional and stronger integrations with smart home devices such as Google's Nest ecosystem.

Our ADT+ platform is the foundation on which we will innovate to build future unique experiences tailored to our customers' individual needs. The first of these experiences will be what we have branded, Trusted Neighbor, an innovative new feature offering both convenience and security to our customers by leveraging Nest's familiar faces to seamlessly grant trusted individuals secure and temporary access to their homes, either on a defined schedule or for specific events, such as package delivery or water leaks. We anticipate this offering will become available for ADT+ customers during the third quarter.

Facilitating this experience, we're pleased to announce we have recently entered a partnership with Yale Lock to provide our customers this innovative and secure solution, which also builds on our existing Google relationship. We will continue to add more features to the ADT+ platform over time and look forward to the enhanced capabilities and flexibility we will enjoy with our owned and proprietary ecosystem. I also want to share that concurrent with this rollout, we're offering more flexibility to our customers and their buying choices, including more disaggregated offers, installation options and payment and contracting terms.

Additionally, we continue to make progress in our second to none commitment to safety, again, a hallmark for the past 150 years, with our alarm scoring capabilities, which are now live nationwide. This technology allows us to classify alarms based on predicted severity, which leads to a reduction in false alarms and importantly, enables us to share more precise alarm information for our customers with first responders.

Additionally, as I've shared previously, we have expanded our Google relationship to include their cloud artificial intelligence technology platform and are currently exploring several opportunities across our business with early efforts focused on call center operations.

We also remain focused on advancing our State Farm partnership, both installation and new customer RMR were up 7% on a unit basis in the second quarter. We're also focused on a self-setup alternative in select states. The first state where we've rolled out this offering just this month, has been Georgia, with another state expected in the third quarter. We're obviously very excited about the overall progress we've made in developing new and innovative products and services for our customers and the foundation this provides for the future.

Supporting this progress, we recently introduced our new brand promise, When Every Second Counts, including the launch of a new advertising campaign, Always There. We've refreshed our media across a variety of outlets, including placements during the Olympics.

In closing, I want to highlight that the top priority of our team remains to deliver on our commitments for our shareholders, customers and partners. I'm incredibly proud of our ADT team and our recent accomplishments as well as our achievements over the course of our company's 150-year history. I'm even more excited for the opportunities that lie ahead.

And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff.

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Jeffrey Likosar
executive

Thanks, Jim, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call. As Jim mentioned, we continued our progress during the second quarter, delivering a very strong first half, consistent with our full year objectives, and we are reaffirming our full year guidance today.

Before summarizing our results, I want to reiterate that, as Elizabeth mentioned, we have substantially wound down our Solar operations. Results were -- Solar, along with the Commercial segment we divested last year are reflected in discontinued operations. My comments will therefore focus mainly on our core CSB business.

I will start with our cash flow performance, which remains a highlight through the first half. As Jim mentioned, we delivered very strong adjusted free cash flow, including interest rate swaps of $251 million, which was up 14% compared to last year. On a year-to-date basis, we have generated $362 million, which is more than 50% higher than last year. This growth is driven by our overall profitability and lower cash interest due to our debt reduction. Working capital management, including some [ timing ] items also contributed.

Adjusted net income for the quarter was $156 million or $0.17 per share. On a year-to-date basis, we have generated earnings per share of $0.36, up 38% compared to the first half of last year. Total revenue was $1.2 billion for the quarter, up 3%. Monitoring and services revenue was up 2%, driven by our recurring monthly revenue, or RMR, from our subscriber base. Ending RMR was at a record $355 million, also up 2%, driven by strong customer retention and higher average pricing. We generated 212,000 gross new customer additions, adding $12.5 million of new RMR. This was down somewhat from the prior year as we remain disciplined with SAC expenditures in current environment.

While fewer relocations generally lead to less consumer demand for new systems, they also provide some tailwind for customer retention. Our overall attrition was 12.9%, approximately flat, reflecting this benefit and our continued commitment to delivering superior service and some offsetting challenges driven by somewhat higher payment delinquencies and related cancellations.

Installation revenue increased by 9% in the quarter, driven by higher deferred revenue amortization. As we've described previously, we expect installation revenue to grow as we evolve our model to transfer equipment ownership to our customers. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $629 million, down 2%. Our results included an unfavorable legal settlement in the current year, while the prior year quarter included a favorable legal settlement. The net effect of these unrelated items is approximately $40 million or 6% year-over-year. I will note that we are seeking indemnification for this year's settlement. Otherwise, a key driver of our EBITDA performance is the higher revenue I mentioned earlier.

Additionally, we remain focused on operating profitability and benefited from strong field and call center cost performance. Offsetting dynamics include credit loss allowances consistent with the payment delinquencies I mentioned, and we also continue with our planned product and technology investments supporting the initiatives Jim described in his remarks.

During the quarter, we returned $50 million to shareholders via dividends. And year-to-date, we have returned $175 million, including our [ market ] share repurchases. We repaid the final $100 million to retire our April 2024 notes and the $50 million drawn on our revolving facility. We also completed the repricing of our Term Loan B, reducing associated borrowing costs by 25 basis points. And we upsized our Term Loan B to retire our Term Loan A. Our overall net debt of $7.4 billion is down approximately $2 billion from this time last year. We now have no significant debt maturities until 2026, with a weighted average cost of debt of approximately 4.5%.

I'm especially pleased that our net debt-to-adjusted EBITDA ratio is at 3x, achieving the milestone we set for this year. We have approximately $257 million in remaining share repurchases authorization and we continue to think our stock is very attractive at recent prices.

We remain very confident in our overall capital structure, liquidity, cash generation capability and the resulting flexibility in capital allocation. As we look to the rest of 2024, we are reiterating the guidance we shared at the beginning of the year. We'll note that we have updated our adjusted EPS guidance to reflect the Solar business presented as a discontinued operation.

Due mainly to the legal settlement I described, we expect third quarter adjusted EBITDA to look more like the first quarter than the second, and we expect third quarter adjusted free cash flow to be in line with, if not a little lower than the first quarter. This is mainly because our cash interest payments are much lower in the second and fourth quarters than the first and third. Additionally, we anticipate some higher SAC spending in the third quarter due to a potential bulk account purchase. We have considered these factors in our full year ranges and we remain focused on disciplined execution to achieve this year's objectives and to position for 2025 and beyond.

Overall, we are very pleased with our strong first half and excited to be building on our 150-year legacy, writing the new chapters Jim described. I want to thank our teams, including our partners for all their contributions to our success. And thank you again, everyone, for joining the call today.

Operator, please open the line to questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of George Tong from Goldman Sachs.

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Keen Fai Tong
analyst

You mentioned you're taking a disciplined approach with respect to subscriber acquisition cost spend which helps preserve cash flow in the current environment, which is good, but it also -- it does come with the effect of impacting gross adds. How do you balance the investment of SAC versus your priorities to drive growth? And what markers externally would you need to see to be more aggressive with SAC investments?

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James DeVries
executive

Thanks for the question, George. It's Jim. And I'll share some perspective. The -- so we have some pressure in our organic business from fewer housing relocations. We also tightened up credit standards in DIY and marketing costs, frankly, for affiliates and even things like direct mail are a little bit higher. And so we have been very disciplined about our growth. We're not going to chase growth when it doesn't meet our return standards, and something that Jeff mentioned, we're keeping some gunpowder dry for a potential bulk opportunity in Q3.

As you know, there's ample opportunity for us to buy bulk deals. We've done that in most of the last handful of years. We sort of view it as a capital allocation dynamic, both versus dealer versus organic. And so we anticipate using some of that SAC, some of that dry gunpowder for a bulk in Q3. It's actually from the same seller that we acquired the bulk from last December. It's got great characteristics out of the gates and returns in the ZIP code of what we have for our dealer business.

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Jeffrey Likosar
executive

George, I would add to just -- George, sorry, it's Jeff. Just a reminder that as we're evaluating these, we're always focused on the IRR, which is driven by how much does it cost to acquire the customer, what do we expect to be the profitability of the customer? And how long do we expect that customer to stay with us. So the mix between those factors may vary, but it's always in pursuit of that objective. And I also would highlight that in our guidance, we -- at the beginning of the year, said we expected SAC on a full year basis to be approximately flat. Fourth quarter was our largest SAC quarter. Last year, on a year-to-date basis, we're tracking right in that range. So as we work through the second half of the year, you're consistent with Jim's comments, that remains the way we're looking at it.

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Keen Fai Tong
analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then with respect to the State Farm partnership, can you talk a little bit about how that's progressing, milestones and expectations for incremental revenue contributions from joint offerings.

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James DeVries
executive

Sure. So I'll give you some operating perspective on the State Farm partnership. The vision remains intact. We, together, want to essentially transform the homeowners business from purely restoration to include prediction and prevention to avoid losses. We made good progress in the first half. Some areas have been a little slower than we had hoped. We have a great deal of regulatory and compliance work that's accomplished.

I think I mentioned during the last call, George, we're in 13 states. We had 6,000 sales in 2023. We're at 9,000 sales year-to-date. On a unit basis, both RMR and install revenue per unit are up 7% sequentially. So it's improving in terms of the economics, and about 2/3 of the installs that we have include an upsell. Customer satisfaction is very high as well. So we're tracking, moving along, making progress.

I'll mention one last thing for you. We're testing DIY currently in Georgia. We anticipate rolling out a DIY alternative in Washington in Q3, and then in addition to that, we're looking at a water-specific test that we hope to launch later this year as well.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Ashish Sabadra from RBC Capital Markets.

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Ashish Sabadra
analyst

So congrats on the ADT+ launch. I just wanted to follow up there and wanted to see what initial feedback you might have received from ADT+, particularly on the self-install side, but also as you go [ for ] the professional install, any feedback in terms of -- from the installers or from customers in terms of experience, but also efficiencies in installation and any color on that front?

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James DeVries
executive

Thanks for the question, Ashish. Wayne, do you want to take this one?

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Wayne Thorsen
executive

Yes. Thanks, Ashish. Thanks for the question. We just completed the national roll out in June. So it's now available in all regions. So we're incredibly excited about that. The initial -- we're thrilled with what we're seeing initially, we are seeing as an example, one quality score that we use a lot is how often do installers have to go back. And the quality here since around our late spring, as we're rolling it out, has surpassed our other offerings. So we're really, really happy about that. We're also seeing month-over-month efficiency gains, which was designed to be efficient because this is both a pro installation methodology as well as the equipment can be installed in a DIY fashion. So we're really pleased with it.

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Ashish Sabadra
analyst

That's very helpful color. Just for the quarter, would it be possible to get what the EBITDA was excluding the legal settlement? And then just for the full year, I just wanted to better understand if there are any other puts and takes that we need to be cognizant of for the rest of the year.

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James DeVries
executive

I'll comment on the lawsuit, Ashish, and then Jeff will have some more color to share for you. As Jeff mentioned, our EBITDA was negatively impacted this quarter by the settlement. It was a patent infringement case. The terms of that settlement are confidential. So it's difficult to comment with detail. I can share that the case is completely resolved. Virtually all of the impacted products were supplied by one of our hardware suppliers. We believe strongly that the supplier is contractually required to indemnify us, that supplier to this point has been unwilling to do so. And so we've filed a lawsuit to essentially enforce our contractual rights.

And Jeff, did you have some additional comments?

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Jeffrey Likosar
executive

Yes. There's no specific thing I would highlight. There's always puts and takes, but we're very happy to be in a position through the first half of the year, even including the legal settlement and everything else we're aware of to affirm the guidance that we put forth earlier and we're confident that we will manage the second quarter to achieve those objectives -- or the second half, I'm sorry, to achieve those objectives.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Toni Kaplan from Morgan Stanley.

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Toni Kaplan
analyst

You mentioned the sort of AI opportunities with regard to Google and looking at sort of your call center to try to find efficiencies there. I guess, how should we think about the time frame of your development there? Are you sort of far along yet? Or are you still at early stages? How long should we expect it to take? And I guess, any sort of return or margin improvement or anything we could think about in terms of what the implications could be from that initiative?

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James DeVries
executive

Sure, Toni. It's Jim. I'll add a couple of comments on the timing and then ask Wayne to share some additional perspective. Our AI opportunities are largely anchored in Google Cloud partnership. We expanded that partnership late last year or early this year. As you mentioned, our first opportunity lies in customer care, largely around call deflection. I think we'll begin to see some impact late this year. And then second, on the docket for us is some propensity modeling, propensity to churn modeling. In terms of financial impact, I think that's more '25 than it is '24. But both of them bring what we expect to be a pretty meaningful opportunity for us.

Wayne?

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Wayne Thorsen
executive

Yes. And thanks, Tony. We're super excited about the partnership with Google Cloud, and we're now into the execution phase, which is terrific. So great progress there. The early focus is absolutely on the call centers, specifically to bring virtual agents and agent assistant tools. The great thing about this is these are hardened products like CCAI and using Vertex within that are hardened products versus new technology. So we have really high confidence in the outcomes. And there are numerous examples where people have reached very significant deflections using these same products that we expect to see similar outcomes.

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Toni Kaplan
analyst

Great. And I wanted to just ask a little bit of a broad question about the environment. I guess, what kind of trends have been seeing with regard to health of of the consumer through the end of second quarter or through July, just any change there, any change in competitive landscape? Any change in how you're thinking about marketing and stuff like that.

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Jeffrey Likosar
executive

Thanks, Toni. It's Jeff. There's no specific change that we'd highlight beyond what we said in our prepared remarks and a couple of the earlier comments. The higher interest rates, the lower moves is the most noteworthy. There's no particular competitive thing we would call out. I would just reiterate the excitement of the new equipment and the offerings and the app and some of the capabilities that we have forthcoming that we think strengthens our position irrespective of what any competitors are doing. And as Wayne described, it's off to a really good start. So that's probably the main point I'd offer in response to your question.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Manav Patnaik from Barclays.

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Ronan Kennedy
analyst

This is Ronan Kennedy on for Manav. Just to further expand upon Toni's question, I guess, elements of George's as well. If there were to be a further deterioration in the strength of the consumer or the demand environment, can you expand on how we should expect to see the durability, resilience and flexibility that you spoke of in the model to be demonstrated, should there be further weakness?

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Jeffrey Likosar
executive

Yes. We think we're very well positioned. I've been at the company for something approaching 8 years now. And I remember joining the company, you're seeing -- the company having said that, never having experienced it myself, but having been through a couple of cycles, we generally found that in challenging economic times people often value security more, the peace of mind that comes with it.

Additionally, we've seen and found that customers who do value it if times are tough and they look at the bills that they seek to reduce in their personal budgets, security is not generally among that list. And then on top of that, in challenging times, there tends to be fewer relocations, as we've already mentioned a couple of times. So we think we're well positioned. And then in a couple of down cycles, in the time I've been with the company, that's been [ proven ] out. And then maybe one last plug. The same point as before. Plus, we have all this new stuff cutting that we think puts us in an even better position.

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Ronan Kennedy
analyst

Got it. And then on the topic of investments, are you seeing the benefits you expected around efficiency, customer experience, better and faster insights to meet customer needs from the recent and -- recently implemented CRM platform that [ reflects ] cloud-based ERM? And then how should we think about the current level of spend for the investment for all these innovative solutions and experiences?

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James DeVries
executive

Thanks for the question, Ronan, it's Jim. So we're in the relatively early days on the investment in ADT+. We're just now rolling it out in our DIFM, to our DIFM customers. So early results are very positive. We're doing some testing with the Trusted Neighbor app and customer experience that we feel really good about. But it's early. And so it's hard to answer with precision what kind of return we expect.

I will mention, in terms of investments, that 2024 will be a high watermark for us on the technology front. We've been investing pretty significantly over the course of the last handful of years. And in 2025, we expect that those investments will be pulled back a bit. And so we'll have a little bit of a tailwind from that standpoint. But on ADT+, a little early in the game, early results are positive, both from an efficiency perspective and a customer response perspective, but difficult at this point to quantify.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Peter Christiansen from Citi.

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Peter Christiansen
analyst

Jim and Jeff, nice trends there. I'm curious as it relates to the idea of bulk purchases. Now that you have ADT+, all this great new stuff. Does that change your calculus when you're evaluating potential bulk purchases, whether or not, I guess, you can upgrade potential users faster or maybe that helps accelerate rollout? Anything of that nature? Is that a part of your decision-making process?

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James DeVries
executive

It is. The ADT+ app, as I was mentioning to Ronan, Pete, it's early in the game but it is increasingly part of our calculus as is the path to upgrade. In terms of just generally speaking, how we look at the [ adds ], it's way more of a capital allocation exercise today than ever before. And we're looking at organic. We're looking at dealer and we're looking at bulk. I'd mentioned that some of our marketing costs are up a bit. And so on a relative basis, it makes bulk more attractive, and we also have -- had a very positive experience with the same seller, selling us a bulk in December. And so when we look at how we allocate our SAC we're looking at each of those buckets and allocating the dollars for the best return.

I think that the organic opportunities for us will be more and more attractive over time. Some of these experiences like trusted neighbor are truly differentiated, and we think that there's going to be solid demand for it, and we'll make that organic allocation, a greater percent of our total overall SAC.

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Jeffrey Likosar
executive

And Pete, I'd add to that too, just building on the capital allocation point and reiterating how good we feel about the progress we've made. The -- debt down a couple of billion dollars compared to a year ago, down something closer to $3 billion compared to not long ago, we got our leverage to the 3x milestone that we set out to achieve this year. So what that flexibility allows us to do is there was a time where we would say the #1 priority is debt reduction. We're still focused on that. But always looking to optimize allocation of capital between normal organic growth, [ bulks ], as we're talking about. M&A, the very substantial increases in returning capital to shareholders between the dividend increase and the share repurchases earlier in the year. So having that flexibility gives us a lot more opportunities to generate returns both for the company and for shareholders.

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Peter Christiansen
analyst

Right. Right. That's super helpful. And [ I thought ], you guys have done a good job on capital allocation for sure. Maybe it's too early, but as you think about the upgrade opportunity to your existing user base on the do-it-for-me side, any sense of what kind of uplift in terms of RMR or like on a per unit basis that you have in mind a target wise for that organic kind of upgrade opportunity over the coming years?

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Wayne Thorsen
executive

Yes...

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Jeffrey Likosar
executive

Go ahead, Wayne.

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Wayne Thorsen
executive

Yes. Thanks, and thanks for the question on that. We -- so one of the things that we're evaluating, and this is one of the benefits that we have from having our own platform is now we can work through both hardware and software that allows us to integrate with equipment that we may even find in the home. So it starts to become super capital efficient than to be able to look at things like bulks or look at other ways to upgrade older equipment either from us or from somebody else.

And then once we do that, when you start thinking about even in some of the early stages of some of the products that we're rolling out, such as the first product experience we're rolling out on our new platform, which is Trusted Neighbor. You start to -- without being able to provide specific direction, you start to be able to look at some of the handles that you can add in there by making -- having more equipment in there. I think we shared a few quarters ago, by having more equipment, and in this case, you would have cameras and locks in addition to the equipment in there, we start to see improved churn characteristics right away. We end up with higher IRPU and higher propensity to take more premium packages when we have things such as cameras involved, which are often not in some of these older homes.

And then also kind of uniquely -- one of the things that we were able to do when you have something like the Trusted Neighbor product that we're going to be rolling out later this quarter, the Trusted Neighbors themselves start to download the ADT+ app. And so as they assist and help our subscribers when they need it. So that leaves an opportunity for us to be able to earn many new subscribers from these new people, who are actually the Trust Neighbors themselves, but who are not our own customers. And so it creates a unique opportunity for us that we have an opportunity to earn.

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Jeffrey Likosar
executive

And I'd add, too early to have firm conclusions, of course, but everything Wayne just said, it just gives us more levers to optimize the returns we generate from our customers, an outcome almost for sure will be a broader mix, just different combinations of attributes. A lot of this is designed to pursue a broader TAM for different kinds of customers who have different needs, maybe different degrees of price sensitivity, and we are and we'll test our way into how to adjust those levers or knobs and dials to seek the optimal overall portfolio economic outcome.

And I would emphasize or link back to what I was saying earlier is the mix may be different. It might be a different mix of upfront cost compared to [ attrition ] characteristics, compared to ongoing profitability, but the foundation with which we make all of those decisions is the return and the lifetime value of all these customers. And again, we're excited to be more attracted to -- or more attractive to a broader TAM.

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Peter Christiansen
analyst

That's great. Yes. I can imagine adding an organic growth -- organic user acquisition on top of a powerful brand name, it would be exciting to watch. That was helpful.

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James DeVries
executive

Thanks, Pete.

Operator

Thank you. Seeing as there are no more questions. I will now turn the call over back to the ADT team for closing remarks.

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James DeVries
executive

Okay. Thank you, operator. Thanks, everyone, for taking the time to join us today. As you heard, we've affirmed our guidance and delivered solid results in our core business. We're looking forward to a continued strong 2024. I'd like to extend my appreciation to our ADT employees and dealer partners. Our results are a reflection of their efforts. So thanks again, everybody, for joining us today, and have a great day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you for all joining. Have a pleasant day.