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Summary
Q1-2025

Yatra's Q1 2025 Earnings: Resilient Corporate Travel Amid B2C Challenges

In Q1 2025, Yatra reported a 5% year-over-year decline in revenue to $12.6 million due to reduced B2C volumes and intense price competition. However, Corporate Travel showed robust growth, adding 34 new corporate accounts worth $24.3 million annually. The MICE segment also ramped up, with promising early signs for the next quarter. Adjusted EBITDA fell to $800,000 from $1.5 million last year, impacted by lower volumes and new hires. The company's strategic focus remains on expanding Corporate Travel and regaining B2C market share .

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2025-Q1

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Operator

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Yatra 1Q '25 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Kiki, and I will be your conference operator today. [Operator Instructions]

I will now hand you over to your host, Manish Hemrajani, VP of Corporate Development and IR. Manish, please go ahead.

M
Manish Hemrajani
executive

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our fiscal first quarter 2025 financial results for the period ended June 30, 2024. I'm pleased to be joined on the call today by Yatra's CEO and Co-Founder, Dhruv Shringi; and CFO, Rohan Mittal. The following discussion, including responses to your questions, reflect management views as of today, August 13, 2024. We don't take any obligation to update or revise the information.

Before we begin our formal remarks, let me remind you that certain statements made on today's call may constitute forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to several risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For a description of these risks, please refer to our filings with the SEC and our press release filed yesterday evening on the IR section of our website.

With that, let me turn the call over to Dhruv. Dhruv, please go ahead.

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

Thank you, Manish, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our first quarter 2025 earnings call. For the quarter ended June 30, 2024, we reported total revenue of INR 1,051 million, which is approximately USD 12.6 million. This represents a decline of 5% year-over-year. Adjusted Air Ticketing margins were impacted by a 21% decrease on account of lower volumes. The decline was primarily driven by reduced volumes in the B2C segment as we optimized discounts at intensifying price competition in the market.

Despite challenges in the B2C segment during the June quarter, the Corporate Travel segment showed robust growth across all key metrics. The company successfully secured 34 new corporate customer accounts representing an annual billing potential of INR 2,028 million or approximately $24.3 million with average billing potential up 77% sequentially. As the leader in Corporate Travel in India, our customer acquisition rates remain strong, consistently outperforming industry benchmarks. We also continue to actively evaluate strategic opportunities to further bolster our Corporate Travel segment.

In addition, we made substantial progress in our Meeting, Incentives, Conferences and Exhibitions segment, which is the MICE business this quarter. A newly onboarded team has started ramping up operations. And while MICE contributions were modest for the June quarter, early signs for the current quarter are very encouraging with significant business already secured in the September quarter.

In addition, we have also scaled up teams to focus on the mid-market Corporate segment and new products, including Visa services and car rental services for corporate travelers.

Adjusted EBITDA came in at INR 65.6 million, approximately USD 800,000, a decrease from INR 115.4 million in the same period last year, partly reflecting the impact of lower volumes and partly due to the added expense of onboarding teams to our new initiatives mentioned earlier.

The cost of incremental hires is close to INR 40 million in the quarter. Ex-investment of new initiatives during the quarter, our EBITDA would have been INR 105.6 million, which is broadly similar to last year. Let me emphasize the critical importance of accelerating our investment at this time in the corporate space. Over the past few months and particularly in the last quarter, the country's largest airline has begun offering deeply discounted fares exclusively on its website and mobile app. In light of the recent consolidation within India's domestic aviation sector and the current aircraft supply constraints, this trend is significantly increasing customer acquisition costs in the B2C market.

As a result, it is imperative that we rapidly expand our Corporate business, and we are actively exploring both organic and inorganic opportunities to achieve this. The MICE industry presents a compelling growth opportunity with its attractive margin profile, making it a strategic addition to our corporate portfolio alongside our visa facilitation and car rental services. Additionally, we have initiated a cost optimization program, which includes streamlining over 100 positions within the company. We anticipate realizing the benefit of these cost savings starting in September after accounting for any notice period obligations.

We continue to make progress towards simplifying our corporate structure as well with the Board appointed restructuring committee actively engaging with all relevant stakeholders. The committee is diligently working on developing a comprehensive proposal to streamline our operations and enhance shareholder value. For the quarter ended 30th of June 2024, we reported total revenue of INR 1,051 million, which is USD 12.6 million, as I mentioned, down 5% year-over-year. And adjusted revenue of INR 1,422 million, which is approximately USD 17.1 million, which is down 14% year-over-year, mainly on account of the factors that I mentioned about.

While it is our strategy to position ourselves as the corporate provider of choice, we recognize our ideal customer mix must be strategically balanced, and we are determined to winning back and regaining some of our B2C market share by implementing certain strategies in the coming quarter. These strategies, we feel we'll be more tech-enabled, technology-enabled and innovation-enabled ones and will not have a significant negative impact on our operating performance. Meanwhile, we continue to expand our corporate customer base, demonstrated by the strong addition of new corporate customers during the first quarter. We believe that our momentum in garnering reputable corporate clients serves as a testament to our excellent service and attractive platform offerings.

Travel volumes in the IT sector, which is one of India's main business travel segments, was subdued in the first quarter of FY '25. However, we are pleased to report that our performance in this segment outpaced industry trends. While travel spends on the Yatra platform by our IT services customers was approximately 30% below pre-COVID levels, industry reports indicate a nearly 50% decline in overall IT services spend compared to pre-COVID. This demonstrates Yatra's ability to capture an increased share of wallet within its existing customer base.

I would like to also take the time to highlight some of our more recent strategic initiatives to expand our market and growth potential. As mentioned last quarter, we've expanded our software service to better meet the needs of our clients through the launch of our Expense Management Solution. We are calling the solution [ RECAP ], which stands for receipt, capture and processing. [ RECAP ] leverages cutting-edge technologies, including Gen AI, Large Langauge Models for this receipt analysis to enable more accurate and comprehensive expense traffic, significantly reducing errors and saving time for our customers. We are currently working with a handful of customers on the expense front as part of our pilot program as we look to cross-sell this product further into our current installed base.

Expense Management is a large and highly profitable segment and our product capabilities make it a product that is suitable not just for the Indian market, but for international markets as well. Our initial response from customers has been very encouraging, and this solution allows us to further deepen our relationship with our customers. With our focus on the Corporate segment and our commitment to expanding our presence and offering, as mentioned earlier, we've added a team for the MICE segment and the early indications are highly encouraging.

To provide you some context to the MICE market. The MICE market is valued at approximately USD 3.3 billion in 2023 and is expected to grow to USD 10.5 billion by 2030, reflecting a CAGR of 18% from 2023 to 2030.

Now turning to the broader economic landscape. Business travel in India for an upswing. Currently, India rise as the ninth largest market globally in terms of business travel spend. The market is expected to reach $38 billion this year and is projected to grow by 18% next year, surpassing pre-pandemic levels. This growth is underpinned by a strong economic outlook for the country, with the Reserve Bank of India projecting real GDP growth of 7.2% in FY '25. The Reserve Bank of India has also highlighted the positive impact of healthy balance sheet amongst times and corporates, along with the government's ongoing focus on capital expenditure. And we believe this translates into greater demand in the corporate travel segment in the coming years.

While domestic travel remains stable with expected growth in the high [indiscernible] regions, outbound travel is forecasted to grow significantly. Report suggests that India's outbound deposits would nearly triple to INR 50 million by 2030, fueled by improving connectivity, more direct and affordable flights and a growing desire for international travel. While the June quarter post challenges for our B2C segment, we are encouraged by the strong momentum we are witnessing in our Corporate Travel business. The growth in new appropriate accounts and the existing development in our MICE business underscores our commitment to driving long-term value for our stakeholders. We continue to fine tune our strategic initiatives to maintain our position in the corporate sector, while working to improve market share and regain share in the direct-to-consumer sector.

With that, let me hand the call over to Rohan to walk you through the details of the financial performance. Rohan?

R
Rohan Mittal
executive

Thank you, Dhruv. I will now review our numbers for the quarter ended 30th June 2024. We saw a 17% Y-o-Y decline in our gross bookings. This was mostly due to the 20% decline in our Air gross bookings as explained earlier. Our Hotel and Packages gross bookings remained flattish. Our overall adjusted margin for the quarter decreased by 15% Y-o-Y. Our adjusted margins for the Air Ticketing business were at 6.8% and 11.6% for Hotel and Packages.

Moving on to expenses. As a percentage of total gross booking value, marketing and sales promotion expenses reduced sharply by 25% on a Y-o-Y basis. Our personnel expenses increased by 23% Y-o-Y as we continue to invest in talent to build out our mid-market MICE, Visa and Expense Management Solutions. Other costs remained largely [indiscernible]. On an overall basis, adjusted EBITDA was INR 65.6 million, compared to INR 115 million in the quarter ended June '24. Lastly, as of 30th of June, we were carrying cash, cash equivalents and term deposits of [ INR 4.5 billion ], which is approximately USD 54 million on our books. And our gross debt is to an all-time low level of INR 210 million, which is roughly USD 2.5 million.

With this, we conclude our prepared remarks, and I'd like to hand it over to the moderator for Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question we received is from Scott Buck from H.C. Wainwright.

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Scott Buck
analyst

Dhruv, you touched on it in the prepared remarks, but could you give us a little more color on what options are on the table in regards to the independent committee? And maybe what a reasonable time line is to expect some decisions to be made?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

So with regards to the independent committee, the committee is currently working with advisors on evaluating the multiple options in front of us for simplifying our corporate structure. There are a couple of preferred groups that we've narrowed this down to. And now the committee along with advisors, is working with the regulators to understand the process and the feasibility of the different structures that are there in front of the company.

In terms of time line, I think the structures which are there are a 6 to 12 months kind of a time line in terms of achieving full simplification of the process. This is in certain scenarios, dependent on regulators and different jurisdictions. So this is only a broad guideline, but I can share that different margin exact number, as I said, because there are multiple regulators, which are involved in the process.

S
Scott Buck
analyst

Sure. I can understand that. And is the goal here to create some sort of fungibility between the shares?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

That is the end objective to try and create a way through which the shareholders in the U.S. will get access to the key to the India stock.

S
Scott Buck
analyst

Okay. Perfect. I appreciate that color. Next, I want to ask about the B2C weakness. I'm curious what of that, that you saw in the quarter is being driven by just kind of temporary softness in travel demand versus what may be more permanent headwind in direct sales of tickets from India's largest carrier?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

So there are 2 factors playing in right now. One is the supply side constraints. So as I had mentioned in our last earnings call, 75 aircraft are taken out by IndiGo because of the issue that they were facing with the patent with the engines. This is a well-publicized litigation an issue which is going on between IndiGo and [indiscernible] . So that's the one thing which is there on account of which supply is limited in the country. The other challenge, which has got accentuated is the view that IndiGo has started taking over the course of the last 6 months and more so in the last quarter of offering fares directly on a site, which are meaningfully cheaper than what are available to third-party distribution channels.

That, I think, is the bigger and more concerning trend that we are witnessing at this point of time. Supply side [indiscernible] obviously, when we get sold, right? It's just a matter of timing that supply will get addressed. So those engines will get prepared, those air costs will come back. So whether it happens with a delay or for a quarter or 2 that's between IndiGo and [indiscernible]. The supply will come back, whereas this is, of course, potentially turn into a more secular trend when there are discussions which are happening between the airlines and the intermediaries in the country to come to an equilibrium.

S
Scott Buck
analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then last one for me on the MICE business. It's nice to see you guys are starting to see some favorable momentum there. What is the typical contract structure? Are your customers under annual or multiyear contracts there? Just trying to understand from a visibility standpoint.

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

So there are some customers at this point of time, given that it's still relatively early days, there are annual contracts which exist, and there will also be some which are more event-based and large events and cycle-based contracts. We are not yet at a stage like our Business Travel where we have multiyear contracts. Here, we are not yet at that stage where we are signing straight off the bat multiyear contracts. Here, these are more short to midterm kind of contracts, which are there as opposed to multiyear contracts. But as the business progresses and stabilizes, this should translate into multiyear contracts.

Operator

The next question is from [ Amish Mahal ] from private investor.

U
Unknown Attendee

I have a couple of questions. One is what percentage of your airline business is B2C? I thought it was a very, very small portion. So for this to have a 20% impact on your revenue seems a bit much. The second is, let's say, the largest carrier's decision to go direct to customers. Does it not also affect your corporate business? And maybe a third relevant question is how is it that companies like MakeMyTrip don't seem to have been impacted by the same issue you're pointing out?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

So let me clarify the first point in terms of the share and you would have heard this on multiple calls from us. The B2C business till last year was accounting for almost 50 -- between 55% to 60% of our gross bookings. So it's not an insignificant part of our business. It's a fairly material part of our business, and that's the reason why the overall impact on the gross bookings, because of what's happening. Secondly, in terms of between us and MakeMyTrip, the impact on MakeMyTrip market is exactly the same as the impact that we are facing.

The only difference which is there is that MakeMyTrip has taken the view of discounting on Air India and Vistara, which is the other airline in the country quite meaningfully to offset some of the volume that they're losing on IndiGo. You could do a quick search, any of the comparison platforms like Skyscanner or Google Flights and you'll be able to validate that.

In terms of overall numbers, obviously, MakeMyTrip has advantage on hotels and bus where they are generating incremental profits which are helping them subsidize some of this growth investment on the air side, but the challenge that we are facing is something that everyone in the country is facing, not just us.

To your third point on the corporate side as to why would this not flow into the corporate event. Now the reason behind that is that on the corporate side, it's a managed travel services where corporate employees have to go through our platform to book their business travel needs. And typically, what happens is these kinds of players which are offered on the airline side, which are direct, are the most restrictive players with the least amount of value adds attached to them, whereas corporate travel 95% of the corporate bookings has happened, happened on special corporate rates which come in bundled with other flexibility like cancellation, protection, free seats being bundled with it meals being bundled with it. And that is not something that IndiGo discounts directly.

The other thing which also direct on the corporate travel front, this target scenario where a company which employs 30,000 people has to then manage their employees going and booking IndiGo flights or some part of their IndiGo bookings directly coming back and claiming that while the rest of the travel is managed through the Yatra application and the Yatra portal for their business travel needs, including the approval process, including their expense management, et cetera. So that's not only a scenario, which is quite easy for an airline to replicate. And even globally, if you look at the examples of people like Southwest, Lion Air, easyJet, their focus is on the leisure travel segment in terms of these kinds of promotional players that they offer on their own website. This is not targeting the business travelers.

These shares also, just to give you an indication, typically, will be there for advanced booking. That's why the bulk of the leisure travel happens, whereas business travel typically happens in our D minus 3, which has traveled 8 minus 3 days in the booking window. In that window, these sales are typically not available. I hope that clarifies your questions.

U
Unknown Attendee

Yes, you did. Thanks a lot. I mean I really appreciate the details behind it. Just an additional question, if I may. The meeting management solution that -- or expense management tool that you launched, do you already have some traction with the mid-market segment that you were targeting? That's the question.

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

Yes. So we are currently running a pilot of that with a few of our customers with a handful of our customers. That's the first phase, which is there. We are also in discussions with some of our larger customers to see if this can replace more extensive global solutions, which are currently being used by the larger customers, but the initial subset that we are targeting is it more on the mid-tier segment.

Operator

The next question is from Cobb Sadler from Catamount.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

I have a question on the potential acquisitions that you may do. I think it was 2. 1 or more than 2? And then also, what is the revenue size of these deals as it relates to the Corporate business? I mean, is it going to double the Corporate business, 20%, 50%? And then I have some follow-ups -- Sorry, excuse me, and the timing of completion of these deals. Sorry, go ahead.

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

Sure. So these are deals which are currently -- it's hard for me to comment on an exact timing for ongoing discussions or dialogues that may or may not be happening. We said that we are evaluating multiple options. It's hard to give an exact timing to closure of any of the acquisitions. I don't want to set any expectations in terms of timing from a closure point of view. These are discussions which are ongoing. And there are multiple such discussions which are. Our endeavor to the M&A part. And if I look at -- I can guide you to what we've said from an India IPO standpoint, We have earmarked approximately $20 million for an acquisition of our multiple acquisitions, whether this translates into 1 or multiple acquisitions only once it's crystallized would we be able to share more details on that.

Since time, there is no commitment in terms of there is an acquisition, which is actively going to happen in the near term.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Okay. So -- but -- all right. But you have aspirations to close 1 deal, I would assume. And so -- and the number, was that $20 million what you would pay or the revenue? Which you would like to add?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

So $20 million is what we have set aside as IPO proceeds in terms of an acquisition. [indiscernible] or up to $20 million would be potentially the payout for acquisitions. This could be for 1 acquisition or this could be for multiple acquisitions.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Could you use stock also or it was $20 million of cash?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

From a regulatory standpoint, it would be an IPO, you have to call out what are the end users of the IPO proceeds and in the end user and the Indian IPO, we have earmarked approximately $20 million for acquisitions.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Okay. And you would use cash solely? Or could you use stock also and buy more revenue?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

Yes. So we could use stock as well. There is something that holds us back from doing stock or cash deal.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Yes. Okay, got it. All right. And the timing, I mean, how long have you been at this? I guess, like -- why don't you have an idea on timing?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

Cobb, your question is then implying that there is an active acquisition which is ongoing. And I'm qualifying that I can neither confirm nor deny any such saying that there is an active acquisition conversation that is going on.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Okay. All right. That's fair. And then on the fungibility of shares, did I get this right, you said 6 to 12 months, do you think you'd have an answer there? Or was that an answer to -- was that -- the question was how long it will take you to -- my question is, how long will it take you to know whether or not the shares will be fungible?

And the other question is what do you think that the Indian investor base would think about that? I mean I'm guessing they don't -- the structure -- and I understand you're kind of the first dual listing company in India. And so my guess is they're a little confused as probably all investors are about the structure. So do you think that would be a positive for them if you were able to collapse the structure? That's one question.

And then do I have it right that you think that fungibility, if it were to occur, would occur within 6 to 12 months?

U
Unknown Executive

Yes. So in terms of the second part, based on the discussions that we've had with various advisors across multiple jurisdictions, 6 to 12 months could potentially be the time line or fungibility event. As I said, given that there are multiple regulators involved in this, it could be a lengthier process. But our best estimate at this point based on the advice that we have from the council that we have in different jurisdictions. It is an event which could take up to 12 months.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

And then -- so the multiple entities that are involved, is that -- so you probably have the SEC and you probably have SEBI. Is there other regulatory agencies or bodies that need to sign off?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

So these are the 2 main bodies, there is the SEC and then there is SEBI. There will also be tax clearances, et cetera, which will be needed in India depending on the structure that we have got or it could also be Indian ports if it's a merger structure that we adopt. So there are a couple of options that we are working closely with. I mean each one of them, there are different sets of regulators that are involved in the process.

As you rightly also pointed out, this is a fairly unique scenario. There aren't enough [ precendences ] of a scenario like this that one can look at and use that as a basis of saying it is a more definitive time line or doing something like this.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Okay. And I guess by doing this, you will eliminate some overhead costs, filing costs, legal costs, management costs. Would you collapse the Board? Maybe you have some board costs that are limited. Do you roughly have an estimate of how much cost would be eliminated associated with collapsing of the listings, if that works to occur?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

Sure. Today, there is approximately $2 million to $2.5 million of costs, which is associated with being the U.S. listed entity, that cost would go away on collapsing of this structure. A large part of that cost will go away on collapsing of the structure.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Okay. All right. And then just on the expense management product, could you just talk briefly about -- so it sounds like it's -- did I get that right that you said that you may see some revenue -- was that revenue from newly added corporate customers or expense management? I didn't -- I didn't hear that clearly. When do you think expense management, the revenue could actually start to be somewhat meaningful? And then I have a follow-up on expense management.

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

So revenue -- sure. So for the revenue to be material, on the expense management front. I think we are looking at more at like next fiscal year for the revenue to be material. At this point in time, we are going through a process where we are inducing trial with our customers. We are offering it to some of our customers as an initial bundle proposition for a period of time, where it's free-to-use, right? Or there is a premium kind of service, which is there that certain features are available to the free-to-use and beyond that, then they have to look at the pricing model. So in this year, at least, I feel it's going to be still relatively immaterial from an earnings point of view. But next fiscal year, it will become more relevant.

So today, the focus is trying to make sure that we can get a larger installed base on the expense side as opposed to looking at monetizing that on day zero.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Okay. And the product -- is it kind of -- is it -- I believe you said that you're going to target both, but initially in what [indiscernible] software and typically work is SMB? Is it fully featured, I mean so I guess is your comp competitor, Zaggle type company? And are your features and functionality similar to the more fully featured suites? Or is it kind of a basic product to start for SMB that don't want to pay for something like Zaggle or another competitor?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

So today, the product is in a situation where in shape or it can definitely compete with the likes of Zaggle in terms of the expense side of things. What we are looking at out here is a solution which uses a lot of the new genAI Large Language Models for receipt analysis, which is much more advanced than the older models or older tools, which use OCR-based recognition. OCR-based recognition by its very nature has a limited amount of accuracy, whereas the LLM models because of the self-learning aspect of theirs and tend to be much better in terms of analyzing the expenses and capturing of the data.

So we feel the solution is fairly comparable with the other mid-market proposition products which are available today. The advantage which is there is that it comes in as a tightly mix or can be offered as a tightly mix solution between travel and expense or it can be sold singularly as an expense solution as well. So that is the advantage that we are offering to customers, especially those who are our existing customers so that we provide a more seamless experience between travel and expense for their employees.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Okay. All right. And then just back to the fungibility, I guess, you have some investors -- U.S. investors that have FPI licenses that can actually just -- as I understand it, can actually just take Indian shares and then hold them buy more, sell some, whatever. And then you have some of the U.S. investors that do not have FPI licenses, they're smaller. And so how would that work with them? They would -- would you have -- would Indian investors acquire the U.S. shares from, if they wanted to sell, of U.S. investors? Or will there be some sort of offering? Or would there be some sort of private equity firm that would come in?

I'm just guessing, overall, the margin in the Indian investor would be more likely to acquire shares. I mean I'm assuming there's some Indian investors that don't like the structure and would then want to add or buy for the first time shares. And so that should be a very, very positive event. But I guess going back to the FPI situation, how would you handle -- and if they have FPI license, it's not a problem, but if you don't have one, then what do you do?

U
Unknown Executive

Sir, if that does allow that we go down calm. At that point, we can also see what assistance we can provide through local bankers out here to make sure that the shareholders are able to get access to the share. So that's something that we will try and do from our side, but it's only something that will come up much closer to once the option gets finalized, and we will factor this into our decision-making process as well as to how easy or difficult would it be for the shareholders to get access to the India shares?

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

Okay. All right. That sounds good. I mean, that's a major net positive, in my opinion, because the U.S. shares are trading at a huge discount. So good luck on collapsing that.

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

The only word of caution that I will put out back up for abundant reasons, is that from a timing point of view, it is a slightly lengthy process. So I want to just get that out there so that from an expectation setting point of view, we don't set the wrong expectation with shareholders.

C
Cobb Sadler
analyst

I understand that, but you did say 6 to 12 months?

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

That's right. That is right. So that's the current time line that we are working towards based on advice from advisors.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from [ Amish Mahal ].

U
Unknown Attendee

Just a question actually on the buyback of the U.S. shares. You had completed a buyback of $5 million. Is there any reason why the number should not be higher considering the steep discount and the best use of corporate funds? I realized it's a Board decision, but I wanted to know whether there's a rationale for capping that $5 million.

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

There is no capping on that. It's just that as we go through this process, we are evaluating multiple options, and we might also need to convert some cash for doing the larger restructuring that we spoke about. So once we have greater clarity on the route that they are going down, at that point, we can evaluate if the buyback needs to be expanded or we do this in one go as part of the restructuring.

Operator

Thank you. As we currently have no further questions, I will now hand back to the management team for closing remarks.

M
Manish Hemrajani
executive

Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. As always, we are available for follow-ups. Please feel free to reach out for the same. Kiki, you can now close the call. Thank you.

D
Dhruv Shringi
executive

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines.

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