Veracyte Inc

NASDAQ:VCYT

Earnings Call Transcript 2020-Q2

[Operator]

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Veracyte's Second Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Tracy Morris, Veracyte's Vice President of Corporate Communications and Investor Relations. You may begin.

[Tracy Morris, executive]

Thank you, Robert. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today for a discussion of our second quarter 2020 financial results.

With me today are Bonnie Anderson, Veracyte's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Keith Kennedy, our Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer; and John Hanna, our Chief Commercial Officer.

Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that various statements that we may make during this call will include forward-looking statements as defined under applicable securities laws.

Forward-looking statements include those regarding our future plans, prospects and strategy, financial goals and guidance, product attributes and pipeline, drivers of growth, expectations regarding reimbursement and other statements that are not historical facts.

It also includes statements regarding the potential impacts to our business resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic, the potential timing for a recovery of our business and anticipated timing of the launches of new products, availability of our tests internationally and our total addressable market.

Management's assumptions, expectations and opinions reflected in these forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and/or performance to differ materially from any future results, performance or achievements discussed in or implied by such forward-looking statements, and the company can give no assurance that they will prove to be correct and will not provide any further guidance or updates on our performance during the quarter unless we do so in a public forum.

Please refer to the company's July 30, 2020, press release and the risk factors included in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for a discussion of important factors that may cause actual events or results to differ materially from those contained in our forward-looking statements.

Prior to this call, we announced our second quarter 2020 financial results, which are available on our website at veracyte.com under Press Releases in the Investor Relations section.

We also published a business and financial presentation, which we will reference during our remarks. This presentation is also available on our website under Events and Presentations in the Investor Relations section.

I will now turn the call over to Bonnie Anderson, Veracyte's Chairman and CEO.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Thanks, Tracy, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today as we discuss our second quarter 2020 results and share an update on the business. We are pleased with our second quarter results given the significant challenges from the COVID-19 pandemic. Our total revenue was $20.7 million, this included testing and product revenue of $16.9 million, which is better than the 50% decline we had anticipated given the pandemic.

Our biopharmaceutical and other partnership revenue, which was less susceptible to the COVID-19 impacts, was strong at $3.8 million, marking a 10% increase over the same quarter last year. We began to see an uptick in test volume during the quarter regionally as some hospitals begin conducting more nonemergency procedures and physicians began to open.

In fact, we doubled our genomic testing volume in June compared to April. We are closely tracking our customer status and ordering practices to determine whether this trend will continue. We still believe a U-shaped recovery will onefold, and with that, expect our test volumes to return to prior year levels in early 2021. Given the fluid state of the pandemic, we are not updating our guidance at this time.

I would like to now turn to our second quarter 2020 results and highlights beginning with our core business, which includes testing and product volume and revenue, evidence development and pipeline advancement.

I will then provide a progress on our strategic partnerships. Our testing and product revenue was slightly higher than our expectations from the pandemic. Our testing revenue was $15.2 million, a 43% decline from the second quarter of last year. This reflects the reduced number of patients entering the funnel for our tests via routine doctor visits, imaging scans before elective surgeries, screening and other procedures through which potential cancer would be found.

We saw a noted rebound in June. However, where our total genomic volume was double that of April. We had anticipated correctly that Afirma would be the first portfolio to rebound and continue to believe our pulmonology franchise may be slower given the nature of the procedures performed to obtain patient samples.

On the product side of the business, which encompasses Prosigna testing and nCounter-related revenue, our revenue was $1.7 million, which exceeded our internal expectations.

We believe the growing interest in Prosigna stems from increased recognition of the clinical utility of breast cancer subtype information in treatment decision-making and a growing understanding that the Prosigna test was built around these biological intrinsic disease subtypes.

We also believe this key information will guide future growth of the product globally. Additionally, to support our growing global business, we have signed distributor agreements through which we will offer the nCounter System for diagnostic purposes and our growing menu of tests on the system to hospitals and laboratories throughout Asia Pacific as well as in Australia and New Zealand.

We continue to expand the library of clinical evidence across our portfolio, which is key to driving commercial reimbursement for our test.

Just this morning, we announced the publication of new data showing that the Envisia Genomic Classifier improves physician's ability to diagnose idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis and other interstitial lung diseases without the need for surgery. The findings appear in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine and confirm and expand our previously reported clinical validation results, which were derived from the multi-center prospective BRAVE trials.

This also follows the recent publication in CHEST of independent data from researchers at Tulane University, showing that the Envisia Classifier enabled physicians to more confidently diagnose IPF when results from high-resolution CT imaging were not definitive. Our continued generation and publication of data in this space is core to building an industry-leading pulmonology franchise that is built upon providing important diagnostic and treatment information early in the patient journey.

Further, a review article published in Cancer Cytopathology, a journal of the American Cancer Society, showcased the ability of the Afirma Xpression Atlas to inform treatment decisions in thyroid cancer. This test is becoming increasingly important as the number of approved and in development targeted therapies for thyroid cancer continues to grow, such as Bayer's therapy targeting the NTRK gene fusions and Eli Lilly/Loxo Oncology's RET-targeted drug.

We believe we touch more endocrinologists and more patients being evaluated for thyroid cancer than any other laboratory in the nation and that this positions us perfectly to help advance precision medicine in this indication and drive growth for the Afirma Xpression Atlas. Last, as it relates to the strength of our core business, our pipeline development plans remain on track for the launch of 4 novel genomic tests that are expected to reach the market in 2021, further accelerating our growth. We aim to advance our leading position in lung cancer with a portfolio of genomic tests that will provide faster, more efficient, and more comprehensive information, to guide patient care decisions throughout the clinical care continuum.

We expect in fact to launch 2 new tests in lung cancer during the second half of next year. First, our noninvasive nasal swab test promises tremendous clinical value by stratifying patients with lung nodules as benign or likely cancerous very early in the process that today is inefficient and often harmful to patients. An earlier cancer diagnosis can advance early treatment that saves lives and of course, an accurate cancer rule out test can spare patients costly, unnecessary and risky invasive procedures. Both factors will be important here, and we will provide both based on a simple nasal swab.

We estimate the current TAM for our nasal swab classifier to be approximately $4 billion, which far exceeds the TAMs of the diagnostic products we've launched to date.

The TAM could also increase significantly, given recent recommendations from the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force that would nearly double the number of people who are eligible for annual low-dose CT lung cancer screening.

Second is the Percepta Atlas a comprehensive gene alteration profiling test for patients with lung cancer that is based on our whole transcriptome sequencing assay, making it far more comprehensive than other genomic profiling panels offered in the marketplace today.

We believe this test will help inform on the right treatment decisions the first time and at the time of diagnosis using a small biopsy sample.

Our intent is to dramatically improve the genomic information available for every stage and type of lung cancer diagnosed as part of the diagnostic workup not as an afterthought, 30 to 60 days later.

We also believe the Percepta Atlas will enable us to build perhaps the first biorepository of lung cancer information that captures the whole transcriptome of all cancer stages 1 through 4, with data for over 200,000 transcripts for every sample. This could potentially help fuel development of precision medicine therapies based on biological insights for early stage cancer, whereas today, such information is primarily focused downstream on late-stage and recurrent cancers.

We are also excited about the launch next year of our Envisia Classifier for improved diagnosis of idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis and other interstitial lung diseases, or ILDs, on the nCounter platform the test international expansion. We are already engaging key ILD thought leaders across Europe who are interested in becoming part of our early access program for Envisia and expect to have over a dozen sites on board at the time of commercial launch, which is expected very late in 2021.

We are also hiring key marketing and country management positions in Europe to advance our market preparation work there. Our fourth test for launch next year is our LymphMark lymphoma subtyping test. In June, we submitted a De Novo classification request to the FDA for use of the test to support disease management for patients newly diagnosed with diffuse large B-cell lymphoma.

We are already receiving inbound requests from specialty laboratories who would like access to LymphMark in their service businesses using the nCounter platform.

This product is targeted for introduction in the first half of 2021. Before moving to the strategic collaboration side of the business, I'd like to share some steps we are taking to seize new opportunities to engage with our customers virtually. In the last quarter, with our customers less accessible due to the pandemic, we ramped our use of digital technology, which included holding over 2 dozen virtual speaker programs that garnered significant interest among customers nationwide, e-mail campaigns and other tactics.

We are also piloting additional ways to bring timely, relevant information to our customers in a personalized format. We see a significant opportunity to utilize digital strategies to increase our sales efficiencies, further strengthen our customer relationships and deepen physician understanding of our tests and their value in the evolving precision medicine landscape.

In tandem, we've eliminated approximately 30 sales positions which we believe will ensure that we are operating with an appropriately scaled organization as our business continues to rebound and as we advance more efficient models for digital engagement.

We believe we are positioned to drive growth through 2021 with these decisions.

Let's turn to our biopharma and diagnostic testing partnerships, a profitable lever of value creation for the company. We generated $3.8 million in revenue here during Q2, making the second quarter in a row this year in which we've recognized revenue from each of our biopharma partners and our first diagnostic testing partner.

This includes milestone payments from Loxo Oncology, Eli Lilly in thyroid cancer; J&J Innovation related to our progress with our nasal swab test; Acerta Pharma, AstraZeneca for achievements with our LymphMark lymphoma subtyping test; and upfront fees for rates granted to CareDx under our commercial development and supply agreement.

It is important to note that our biopharmaceutical partnerships rely not only on our proprietary tests but also on the clinical and genomic information that we have been collecting and leveraging over the years to provide highly differentiated biological insights which would be challenging to unearth, otherwise.

Additionally, when we secured the exclusive global rights to the nCounter System, we determined that one avenue for growth was partnering with other diagnostic companies to develop their tests on the platform.

This would enhance the attractiveness of the entire menu, while providing additional revenue-generating opportunities for us.

We are excited now to see our acquisition thesis playing out with 2 great partners, CareDx in transplantation; and MAVIDx for COVID-19 and other infectious diseases.

We announced our partnership with CareDx in May through which we granted CareDx the exclusive right to develop solid organ transplant tests for use on the nCounter System.

This partnership delivered $1 million in Q2 and will continue to generate revenue through test kit sales, nCounter sales and additional milestone payments.

Earlier this week, we announced an exciting agreement with MAVIDx through which MAVIDx plans to develop ultra-high throughput testing for the COVID-19 virus influenza and other infectious diseases on the nCounter System.

MAVIDx Is led by Dr. Krassen Dimitrov, who was the founder of NanoString and an inventor of the single molecule barcode technology that powers the nCounter System.

We believe MAVIDx's novel technology, which allows patient results to be assessed through a highly multiplexed assay configuration has the potential to enable over 40,000 samples to be processed in 1 day on an nCounter System.

This would address the significant need for simplicity and scale in the global effort to track and contain COVID-19 and would potentially enable widely available testing beyond the clinical setting, to include workplaces, schools and other venues that require massive and frequent testing.

We have secured an equity stake in the company and will supply test kits and nCounter instruments for any test that MAVIDx develops and commercializes.

Before Keith picks up with the financial results, I also wanted to highlight our recent addition of key talent to the Veracyte team, which will help us achieve our vision for global expansion.

Jens Holstein will join our Board of Directors, August 1, bringing a wealth of global financial and management expertise to the company. He is the Chief Financial Officer of MorphoSys, a clinical stage biopharmaceutical company based in Germany.

And Jim Erlinger has joined Veracyte as an Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary, bringing a wide range of legal experience for life science and health care companies in the U.S. and global markets.

We are thrilled to welcome them both to the Veracyte family. I will now turn the call over to Keith for a more detailed review of our second quarter 2020 financials.

[Keith Kennedy, executive]

Thank you, Bonnie. I will also refer to our business and financial presentation which Bonnie mentioned earlier and which is available on our website. Turning to Page 6. The table and footnote shown here, along with the details in our SEC filings, further explain how we recognize and report revenue under U.S. GAAP.

For discussion purposes, we may combine testing and product revenue to describe our diagnostic testing business, and biopharma collaboration revenue to describe our strategic arrangements. As a reminder, net sales of data or other services to our customers are classified under biopharmaceutical revenue and all other noncustomer revenue are classified under collaboration revenue in our consolidated statements of operations and comprehensive loss.

Turning to Page 7 of the presentation. Our performance against 6 key performance indicators or KPIs, for the second quarter of 2020 compared to the prior year quarter was as follows: total revenue of $20.7 million, declined $9.4 million or 31%, principally from a 44% decline in genomic test volume, offset by an increase in product and biopharma revenue.

As Bonnie mentioned, genomic test volume recovered month-over-month in the quarter with June volumes twice the April low.

Though cost of revenue declined $1.1 million compared to the prior year gross margin of 63%, declined 800 basis points as testing and product volumes declined faster than we could adjust our cost structure.

Operating expenses, excluding cost of revenue, declined $0.4 million.

Net loss of $11 million, increased $8.5 million. Net cash used in operating activities was $8.4 million compared to $2.5 million in the prior year quarter. And genomic volume of 5,379, declined 44% and included 4,795 Afirma; 385 Percepta; and 199 Envisia reported tests.

To complete the year-to-date picture for genomic volume, for the first quarter 2020 and the 3-month period ended March 31, 2020, total genomic volume of 10,559, included 9,185 Afirma; 1,016 Percepta; and 358 Envisia reported tests.

Cash at June 30, 2020, was $147 million.

Page 8 provides a further breakdown of revenue into testing and product, biopharma collaboration, and total revenue.

As previously mentioned, the decline this quarter in testing revenue was offset by the favorable impact of adding product revenue to our portfolio and the increase in biopharma revenue over the prior year period.

Pages 9 and 10 illustrate our pacing and performance year-to-date against these same KPI metrics as well as break down of our revenue into testing and product, biopharma and collaboration and total revenue.

Year-to-date, revenue is down 13%, and genomic volume is down 15%.

For the 3 months and 6 months ended June 30, 2020, we accrued on average between 2,800 and 2,900 for both Afirma Classifier and Xpression Atlas, which met our revenue recognition standard, which was between 90% and 95% of the reported Afirma Classifier test volume.

The next 6 pages outline the sequential and year-over-year results underlying each of our KPIs.

As shown on Slides 10 and 11, we continue to see benefits from diversifying our revenue base.

As Bonnie mentioned, on an intra-quarter basis, in the second quarter, we saw a growing recovery in our genomic testing revenue, led by Afirma.

Using internal reported genomic volumes through July 28, 2020, and our forecast for the remaining 3 days of the month, we expect July 2020 reported genomic volume to meet or slightly exceed July 2019 reported genomic volume, led principally by the acceleration in Afirma volume.

July is not necessarily predictive of the quarter, but we are pleased to see the pace of the recovery to date.

In June and July, reported COVID cases accelerated and states began taking restricted measures to attempt to contain the spread of the virus. We are uncertain that intra-quarter or seasonal trends we typically see in the business will hold in light of COVID.

As a result, we remain cautious about predicting the slope of the recovery.

As Bonnie mentioned, we still believe a U-shaped recovery will unfold. And with that, expect our test volumes to return to prior year levels in early 2021.

In light of the uncertainty in the market, we are not currently returning to giving guidance. In addition, the early actions we took to control costs in the second quarter resulted in lower operating expenses this quarter than the prior year quarter.

Through digital and virtual selling, given our strong cash position of $147 million at quarter end, we believe we are well positioned to support the business through the recovery.

I will now turn the call back over to Bonnie.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Thanks, Keith. To wrap up, I'll refer you to the Q2 key takeaway slide on Page 4 of our business and financial presentation, and we'll reiterate that we had a solid Q2 results in face of the pandemic headwinds, our comprehensive menu of advanced genomic tests provides real value to patients, physicians and payers, reducing invasive procedures and follow-up visits at a time when this reduction is desperately needed.

We are also advancing new models of engagement to bring increased efficiency to our sales and marketing efforts. We are progressing an exciting pipeline of products and are on track to commercialize 4 genomic tests in 2021, further accelerating our growth.

And lastly, our growing roster of strategic partners is helping to fuel our efforts and maximize value as we expand to address a more than $40 billion global market for our products.

I'll also point you to the next slide, Slide 5, which lays out the catalysts that will drive our momentum through 2021. As you can see, we are making solid progress on a number of them.

In closing, I would like to thank our employees for their continued commitment, focus and passion as we advance the business, I am truly grateful for all that they do.

And now I'd like to ask Robert to open the call up for questions.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] First question will be coming from the line of Brian Weinstein with William Blair.

[Brian Weinstein, analyst]

So first one, that's kind of near-term and then one question that's a little broader in thought. So on the near term, I mean, it looks like if we would have kind of just continued the trajectory, and we weren't dealing with this pandemic, it looks like there were about 6,000 tests that you guys have lost.

I'm just curious how you think about whether those patients come back, when they come back, why wouldn't they come back? Just sort of how are those lost patients kind of come back into the system and over what period of time does that happen?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes. I mean, we're very pleased. One of the reasons we went ahead and gave the extra color on July is to really share the fact that we are pleased to see the recovery coming back.

I think, though, that we still, given the pandemic is still looming and the fact that we don't know whether people will really be taking vacations in August and things like that, that typically has happened, we still see a step-by-step process of getting back up to where we were last year.

And with our own probably cautious projections given the backdrop of that, we still believe it will be early 2021 around Q1 when we see things sort of back, neck and neck with prior year.

Keith, any additional comments?

[Keith Kennedy, executive]

No. We always believe the products are standard of care when doctors go back and see patients, we're excited to see they are ordering our tests and we just believe continuing to provide further and further evidence behind these products and more and more information to physicians in a way that's noninvasive and keeps people out of having surgical procedures is clearly taking root in the market.

So we're encouraged by that.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes. Physicians are seeing fewer patients in their offices than they were prior to the pandemic, and that has created the slowdown.

[Brian Weinstein, analyst]

Yes. No, I get that. Okay. And then just on a high level here. Is there potentially kind of -- you were just talking about silver lining here with COVID. I mean if you think about diagnostics in noninvasive testing, keeping people out of surgery, is there a way this effect becomes an accelerate to your business longer term?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

We think we're extremely well positioned to be an emerging success story in the back of that.

When we began this journey with our very first test in thyroid testing, it was solely aimed at delivering value of keeping patients out of surgeries that didn't need them.

We've probably kept over 60,000 patients out of a $20,000 surgery and lifelong hormone replacement therapy that wasn't needed in the first place.

And now we've expanded that to include less invasive testing in lung cancer. The portfolio we're bringing to market next year is going to expand that reach in lung cancer critical disease, where not only is it important to get the diagnosis done early, but get it done early with accurate tests that can both rule in and rule out and with Percepta Atlas combining the samples that are collective for diagnosis with the most comprehensive way of informing treatment decisions.

And again, if that patient is an early detected likely cancer from a nasal swab and has a very small module with a stage I cancer likely they could go to surgery and have the cancer removed for a cure.

So I think bringing all these decisions upstream, earlier detection, less invasive testing is exactly what we're all about. And with our Envisia Classifier, the new data that came out there was the same thing, showing that doctors can actually use Envisia and being confident in diagnosis without ever having to take the patient to surgery.

So we're at a great place with that. And are positioned well with new data that supports that coming out, allowing us to lean into moving forward with getting broader reimbursement for these tests, and we think the backdrop that COVID has created should be very attractive for that.

[Operator]

Next question will be coming from the line of Puneet Souda with SVB Leerink.

[Puneet Souda, analyst]

So Bonnie, first question on the return volumes. I appreciate the comments in June and doubling the recovery from April and then July.

But just trying to understand, is there -- what's unique in Percepta here among the pulmonologists? Is there anything that's stopping it from recovering at a little bit faster rate?

And in that, if you can also help me explain if the 30 sales reps, were they tied more closely to Percepta or to Afirma? Just help us understand how does Percepta recover from the current levels?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes. So I'll turn it over to John in a minute to talk about the sales and the Percepta question. But we do believe, just naturally, I mean, first of all, we call on pulmonologists with our lung portfolio, many of them are still tied up, taking care of COVID patients.

So there are probably fewer of them focused on working lung cancer patients up. And there has also been, in the interest of these invasive work ups, there has been a shift to maybe be more conservative in working nodule patients up.

That might mean patients with a little higher risk go through that work up. The sad thing with that is that 3 years from now, we could see an emergence of people with later stage lung cancer because they weren't worked up early enough.

So I think it's yet to behold all of that. But let me turn it to John and have him walk you through how the structure of the team has unfolded and what he's doing and why we're still very well positioned with the lung portfolio.

[John Hanna, executive]

Thanks, Bonnie. And thanks for the question, Puneet. I co-heartedly agree with Bonnie's comment. The bronchoscopists that diagnose lung cancer are also critical care medicine physicians. And so many of them are on the frontline of caring for and treating patients that come into the ER for COVID.

So naturally, we just see a shift there where they're doing less bronchoscopy for lung cancer detection, some of the interim guidelines recommended being more conservative about the procedure, as Bonnie mentioned.

And so we don't see any kind of fundamental shift in thinking or use of the product. Just to hear a depression because of their focus right now, given the surge in cases, capacity in ER.

But as we explained in the last call, we acted really quickly as the pandemic began to focus on organizational readiness of our team, virtualizing our customer engagement and emphasizing the value proposition behind our testing around avoiding unnecessary procedures, which we do think is really becoming even more relevant in this pandemic era.

Clinicians believe in the science behind our products and the benefit they're bringing to patient outcomes. And so we expect them to continue to use the products as they reemerge from the pandemic and start to see more patients in their practice.

We did eliminate the 30 positions in the U.S., and we did so to take advantage of the opportunity really that the pandemic has presented where the new normal for clinicians is virtual engagement, both with sales professionals and with patients, quite frankly.

And so we now have approximately 110 field sales professionals across the U.S., which we believe is appropriate to support the growth of the business as we reemerge from the pandemic.

We're investing in training, tools and programming to enable those sales professionals to engage with clinicians. And while we never like to lose a field team member here, we as a management team, are very excited about these decisive moves that we took as is our field sales team because we think that they believe it enables them to more effectively engage with their customers.

So we're looking forward to reporting on the impact of these changes in future quarters, and we believe we've structured the organization appropriately to continue to grow as we reemerge from the pandemic.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Thank you, John.

[Puneet Souda, analyst]

That's great. And Bonnie, I have sort of a 3-part question on COVID testing. This is, obviously, given the sheer magnitude and significance of COVID testing to the entire country, the solution with MAVIDx looks very appealing, but can you walk us through what is the potential product offering here?

What is it going to look like in terms of automation capabilities? And what is the timing of that launch? And lastly, if you could elaborate a little bit on -- I think the question we're getting is around the pricing of the test. Could this be -- given that the high -- ultra-high volume, could it be a test that is in the range of $1 to $2 per test sort of benefit to Veracyte? Or is it likely to be more, if you can elaborate on those 3 points, that would be very helpful.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Okay. Let me try to get to all those. First of all, when we acquired the diagnostic exclusive rights from NanoString for the nCounter System we said at that time we believed it was a best-in-class technology.

And I think the -- what has unfolded with the attractiveness that both we have seen and others have seen in the platform has really unfolded over the last -- it hasn't even been a year yet, 7 months, actually, since this has been in our hands.

And we also are strategically, as you know, very focused on our vision of becoming the first advanced genomic testing company to build a global footprint on our own distributed platform, which we believe is essential to driving really great advanced genomic testing products into clinical care.

And so for us, our strategy isn't to pivot and go after a COVID-type opportunity, but we were very excited about the opportunity when approached about it to team up with MAVIDx, given the brilliance, quite frankly, of the founder of the company and his long-standing expertise in working with the technology to probably get it to do things that nobody else may be able to do.

He will be working to put a front-end highly sophisticated automation and a back-end reporting mechanism using the base and kind of technology and system to create an almost real time ongoing processing solution that will be able to highly multiplex these patient samples as opposed to today, we were excited about the technology to highly multiplex genes in a given test, and he's going to use that capability maybe in the other way to highly complex -- multiplex patient samples.

So I don't want to speak too much on that company's behalf on exactly how they're going to approach it because I think that would be treading on territory that belongs to them. But I will say that our initiation of taking an equity stake and teaming up with them pretty quickly and getting this done is because we think they have a really exciting idea. And that is a way for us to play in a market that we would not go after directly, but be able to do it and support them in achieving that success.

These tests typically have to be reimbursed somewhere between $100 and $200 end user. So labs have to be able to source the testing and run them to be able to make their margins and obviously, as a partner, we're in the supply chain as well.

I can tell you with the type of volume we're talking about here, there's plenty of financial opportunity for all the stakeholders in the supply chain. And we're going to be really excited to taking our position as patients can start to get access to this.

We think the market will grow to new opportunities outside of clinical medicine, where I think many of the products today can serve that need quite well. But when you think about areas where there may need to be or desire to do massive numbers of testing and do it quickly so that populations of people or large numbers of people trying to attend an event or employees of large organizations, these are all areas that really need different paradigm of testing than what's available today.

And we're rooting for MAVIDx to be able to pull this off and have a great success and enjoy that with them.

[Puneet Souda, analyst]

That's great. Just following up on that, is there -- in terms of -- I appreciate it's hard to define precise timing of the launches. And I think you highlighted an EUA submission by the year-end.

Can you maybe just elaborate sort of the level of confidence you have in reaching that time line and those targets? Obviously, given the scale up that -- -- scale that you can deliver here, the opportunity is fairly large. So just wanted to clarify on those 2 points.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes. I think what we said in the press release is that's Mavi's goal is to file and get that authorization. And I don't have opinion on our confidence or not, they appear to be confident in putting that out there.

And obviously, if they're able to do that, then they would be looking to make testing available pretty quickly after that. I don't think, as a company, they're going to gear up and go to global markets in the first year. That probably would not be what to expect.

But I think instead, they'll take a step-by-step approach at building up access, possibly through a single service lab initially and then reaching out to other partners that have the capability and capacity to initiate the same kind of testing in their environment, whatever that would be.

And this is pretty recent. We turned this deal pretty quickly. We thought the opportunity required us to move quickly. And so as things move forward, we'll keep everybody abreast of the progress and this could be a 2021 commercial effort for all of us.

[Operator]

Next question will be coming from the line of Sung Ji Nam with BTIG.

[Sung Ji Nam, analyst]

Maybe starting out with lymph part, very exciting about the IVD potential there. Just could you remind us again, Bonnie, what the value proposition there is? Is that type -- is that a companion diagnostic to certain therapeutics? Or is there a utility right away from a diagnostic standpoint?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes. So very good question. So LymphMark by itself has the potential to improve the subtyping and diagnosis of the certain subset, as I mentioned in the script, of B-cell lymphomas.

And this is an area of high clinical unmet need. In fact, the World Health Organization had come out earlier making a recommendation that a genomic test with the ability to do this subclassification be used because it's critical that these patients get on the right treatments based on their subtype.

So with that knowledge and information, there is a method of doing some of this by IHC today. So it's not like a brand-new indication that's never been answered, but the results tend to be very poor quality and very difficult to reproduce, as we know, is often the case with these kinds of tests by the microscope.

So we're excited to bring this forward long term. There could be other avenues of increasing the value and the positioning and the utility of the test. This first step is strictly in that diagnostic subtyping to break those lymphoma cases into the proper subtypes.

And with that, we filed our De Novo request with FDA and that is moving through their review, and we anticipate assuming that they accept and we get through that review process that this could be a commercial product made available to our specialty laboratory customers that are working with us with Prosigna today in the U.S. as an FDA-cleared product that would obviously allow us to immediately allow them access to switch their subtyping over to a genomic test that should improve patient outcomes.

[Sung Ji Nam, analyst]

Okay. Great. And then if I could, just a quick follow-up on that. So from a pricing standpoint, obviously, a very sizable market in terms of from a volume standpoint.

So I'm curious -- I'm not sure if you're able to comment right now, but what's the total...

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

I think we'll wait and provide a little more color on that and guidance when we get close to knowing that the product is through FDA and when we have near sight, we can give you that information.

But this will be a -- it will be clearly higher value than what you would expect from an IHC test or we wouldn't have invested in moving in along and invested in the clinical study to do it. But we don't have a specific answer on that just yet.

[Sung Ji Nam, analyst]

Okay. Great. And then I was just wondering -- I'm hearing about COVID-19 potentially resulting in certain patients in pulmonary fibrosis. And I was wondering if there is a correlation there? And if this is a potential opportunity for Envisia in the future? I don't know if it's too early to...

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes, absolutely. And thank you so much for joining in for the questions. Yes, there is a lot of focus right now. Certainly, a lot of the thought leaders that we work with, a lot of Twitter noise and other work to get some data pulled together on these early cases to see what can be learned about the impact of the damage on the lung from COVID infections.

What's interesting about Envisia, which is sort of a rinse and repeat from Afirma and a rinse and repeat on what we're doing in the lung cancer space, is that Envisia, even though the signature that provides the diagnostic UIP call, is made with a couple hundred genes that formed at classifier, the test is run on our whole-transcriptome unified assay, so we will have the potential to inform on all this biological content that we're collecting, just like we're doing in thyroid cancer.

And just as we were talking about Xpression Atlas and the value that is having now, not just on informing on benign patients, keeping them out of surgery, but helping to inform treatment decisions and the discussion I had around how well we are positioned to deliver a Percepta Atlas to market that will answer this very, very large scale comprehensive biology and genomic content.

In lung cancer, the poster child for targeted therapy, we could find that, that backbone of our Envisia Classifier could very well be the most comprehensive information to start looking and mining that data as we get Envisia patients through our lab and enroll them so that we can get follow-up data and work with our thought leaders out there to see what we can uncover with the test.

These things are exactly what creates the next pipeline product because you're already collecting all the comprehensive data you need to develop the classifier. And we have done that. Our 7 classifiers that we've developed using this concept would have never happened if we couldn't have gone back to that comprehensive data and generated the next test.

So we're very saddened that we're at this point of knowing that patients that get infected, even if they recover, they may have this underlying damage. But we're hopeful that if anyone can figure out a way to inform on that, it should be Veracyte.

[Sung Ji Nam, analyst]

Great. And then just lastly from me. It's great to see the versatility of the nCounter platform, especially with the partnership with MAVIDx as well as CareDx. I was curious kind of looking forward, are there a lot of opportunities outside of oncology in your view for the nCounter platform? How we should think about where is the greatest value generation in the period do you think from the platform standpoint?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

I think the platform has phenomenal capability. One of the things that really, really attracted to us in addition to the ultimate simplicity, elegant simplicity, to be honest, is the fact that you can measure proteins, DNA and RNA and the level of comprehensive nature up to 800 genes in each of those.

So we try to be very focused on advancing our strategy around our own vision and where we're headed. We have a lot to get done. A lot of exciting pipeline products coming to market. And as you see, we're very open to considering partnerships where it makes sense, on markets that we may not want to compete in directly.

And so I think that there could be opportunities to expand this beyond the partners we have today. But we're not like out pounding the pavement to look for these. Most of these actually come -- are incoming requests. And then when we take a look at them, we can evaluate whether each is the right opportunity to take advantage of.

We believe that the 2 that we've done to date, CareDx being a real leader in transplantation testing, their investment in this space, their global presence in this space is going to be just a great complement to what we're trying to do. And of course, the more nCounter's we can install based on the menu that's available, the more menu will be pulled through, so that's a win for our customers who can run a lot more tests after making an investment in a platform, it's a win for us because we are at the base of all of the revenue that we'll be generating over time here.

And then thirdly, our partners win because if they have a large installed base of nCounter's in clinical laboratories and medical centers all over the world, that gives them a ready-made market to drive growth in.

So we're pretty excited about the strategy, the approach and the incredible value of the technology we acquired.

[Operator]

Next question will be coming from the line of Thomas Flaten from Lake Street Capital.

[Thomas Flaten, analyst]

Just one quick one. Back in April, when the COVID really hit, you guys had made some significant changes or, I guess, taken some steps, including furloughing, I think it was 60 people.

So from that, can we make the assumption that the 30 sales positions that were eliminated were out of that 60 that were furloughed?

And given, I guess, some of the signs of positivity we're seeing in the recovery, have you made any decisions about what to do with the remainder of those furloughed employees?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes. Tom, thanks for joining the call, and thanks for the question. Yes. So first of all, yes, Keith pointed out and as you reiterated, we made very early decisions, and we're glad we did because we think that really positioned us and preserved a lot of cash that, that would have been spent, have we not moved quickly.

And we were also this quarter, I think, readily able to move quickly at making another final decision. And that was to bring 30 positions back. They were not all exactly the same people necessarily because we looked at how we could restructure the team. And so some of that had to move, made different decisions around which was fine.

But ultimately, we did final terminations of about 30 individuals, so 30 positions came back, 30 got terminated. And it's always sad and always hard, as everyone knows, as a CEO especially to have to make those kind of decisions.

But I think our employees really appreciated that we did something quickly to be right for the business. We then evaluated very quickly.

I mean, John, really, as a leadership person, looking at exactly what we think is going to come out of the -- what is the environment that we're going to come out of this look like. And how do we really position ourselves as leaders in leading in a new wave with customers in a way that, quite frankly, they love working in a different digital engaged manner because then they don't have to worry about putting rules in place for reps to come in and out of their doors.

So this is also win-win. And so from that, we moved very quickly to evaluate what we wanted to look like going through 2021, anticipating the growth we want to drive in 2021 as well. And then we made final decision so that everyone could settle down, get back to work and know that we're done. And that's the 3-step approach we took.

And now I think we have everybody back engaged. Everybody is getting up to speed on the new tools and things like that. And we feel really good that we're positioned and have the right structure and right number of people, not only to emerge from this, but to get us through the growth we want to see in 2021 as well.

[Thomas Flaten, analyst]

That's great. With respect to the nasal swab data, do you still anticipate that coming out at one of the fall pulmonology oriented conferences? Or will that be -- do you think that will be distributed in some other vehicle or via some other vehicle?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Well, I mean, as a company, we always look for either having it come out in a vehicle or creating a vehicle. One or the other, we like to get the data out there when it is available.

So we have said and have expected that there would be additional data emerge. Obviously, the product isn't targeted to launch until we said today, the last half of 2021. So any kind of final pivotal validation data will yet be pending into 2021.

But we're excited that, that is moving along our continued generation of revenue from our partnership with J&J supports the fact that things are moving along well there.

And so I think that as per our catalyst side, we pointed to additional data, not only coming out on the nasal swab, but also Percepta in lung cancer, we believe we're on track for all this new data to still emerge between now and the end of the year.

[Operator]

Next question will be coming from the line of Steve Unger with Needham.

[Stephen Unger, analyst]

As far as the -- I appreciate the color on the volume breakdown. And I was just curious if you could provide revenue from the pulmonary franchise.

And then I noticed that the revenue per test increased this quarter. And I was wondering, Keith, maybe Bonnie has done most of the talking, and I was wondering if you could maybe provide some color on revenue per test?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

That's a great idea. Keith?

[Keith Kennedy, executive]

Don't include me. You've done a great job. The revenue per test, I mean, we continue to accrue and have good rates there. We got our no result rate back online, and we're doing a great job on cash collections.

Our DSOs were almost at a record for the company. And in the last 12 months, our cash collections exceed our revenue, which guys now since I've joined here 4 years ago, it's been real focus as to, there is cash and there's GAAP, and we do a real good job of pushing on making sure we get paid for everything.

So that's just been a really good story. Envisia has been a great story on the rate we've been able to collect on that. There's a real clinical need there. We've done a really good job getting paid.

Percepta does well. So just across all of our products, I think we just had another really great quarter in light of COVID. There's just a lot of uncertainty what was going to happen with payers going into COVID, and it's just -- it's been a really great story.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes -- yes, we did get a lot of requests, and certainly, you were one of them of desiring a little more granularity on the lung franchise since we have multiple tests there.

I think that Keith's ability to lean into that and give you the volumes for each of those will give you a good idea. Our rates haven't changed on those. So that will give you a good idea of where revenue landed, even though we didn't call all that specifically.

[Keith Kennedy, executive]

We've historically always talked about it being around 1,500 on a blended basis for both tests on the lung side. I think that's not the exact number, but we just always talked about getting a round number around there. We're going to move -- we're moving hard to get commercial payers on that side.

We're still getting paid from commercial payers, but getting commercial contracts in place has a big push internally. So we'll continue to move that, managed care effort forward as well.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes.

[Stephen Unger, analyst]

Got it. And then my last question, just on -- you've done some cost cutting, and it doesn't appear to have impacted R&D. A lot of what you're doing is with partners. So that spend is sort of off your books so to speak. And I'm just curious as to what's your plan for the R&D function in the back half of the year?

And should we expect to see you ramping that up now that -- I mean, you've got several products launching in 2021?

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Yes. I mean the way to think about R&D, I mean, quite frankly, the pipeline that we talk about launching next year, the R&D may be with the exception of the LymphMark test, which was close to being finished when we acquired that from NanoString.

I mean the other 3 products are major, major R&D undertaking to get those products to market. Our nasal swab, first ever development of a test, it's going to be a combination roll out and roll in for diagnosing lung cancer early and getting patients on treatment decisions with Percepta Atlas, major, major undertakings.

And then the Envisia development taking a classifier that's on the market with expected performance today and recapitulating that performance on a brand new platform and we're already pointing to that, still being on track for launch next year.

And that's not easy. I mean, others have really struggled to move technology platforms and maintain the performance of their classifiers. And we have done it multiple times and have done it with just utter flawless excellence.

And I don't say that as bragging about me, but bragging about our R&D team, which I think is one of, if not, the most high-quality R&D team in this industry.

The number of tests, the fact that we have never missed end points, where every test achieves its end point, and comes out, and is able to deliver very high-quality patient care decisions, and we are changing clinical practice with every one of our tests.

So the fact that we have been able to do that and have 3 tests, the largest investment is at the stage that those tests are now in R&D, so no, we don't likely won't need to increase spend beyond that when we get these tests to market, but think about how incredibly productive our R&D team is to be able to advance 3 new tests to market, and we're spending very little more than we had in the last couple of years.

So it's not always about the number of people and the spend in R&D. It also has a lot to do with how you set up those discovery and development engines to be very efficient. And of course, that covers the cost of our clinical trials as well.

And then I will just mention that we've been very successful at bringing partnerships to bear with the company that do help us cover the cost of some of those pipelines. That's strategically one of the levers of value that we're working toward.

And certainly, that's the case with J&J. So that's kind of how that all threads together, but I think we've been incredibly productive with our R&D

spend.

[Keith Kennedy, executive]

Yes. Just to put numbers beyond that. As you know, on Slide 14, we dropped these numbers in here. And I love how the bar chart sort of -- you can draw a line. We put R&D and G&A at the bottom, right? We separate outlets, sales and marketing. And you can see how we pivot the business to run it so we drive value for our investors.

And so since I've been here, that number has been anywhere from, call it, $3 million to $4.5 million a quarter. So call it, $16 million, $17 million run rate right now. And I think since the last 2 years, we've had over $17.5 million in biopharma collaboration revenue.

So if you put that in perspective of what you typically see in this industry for companies that are building tests that have 20-year futures, that just sort of underlies or supports Bonnie's point here that we're trying to be very, very thoughtful about how we invest across that platform with 4 products coming out.

So in 2021, it's a pretty impressive result. Giulia Kennedy and the team deserve a lot of credit for years and years of building a great R&D business.

[Bonnie Anderson, executive]

Sure.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions]

[Tracy Morris, executive]

I think we're ready to close the call.

[Keith Kennedy, executive]

Thank you.

[Operator]

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our call today. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect.