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Earnings Call Transcript
2022-Q3

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to The Trade Desk’s Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Chris Toth, Vice President, Investor Relations. Sir, the floor is yours.

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Chris Toth
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, operator. Hello and good day to everyone. Welcome to The Trade Desk third quarter 2022 earnings conference call. On the call today from our Singapore office are Founder and CEO, Jeff Green; Chief Financial Officer, Blake Grayson; our Chief Revenue Officer, Tim Sims. A copy of our earnings press release can be found on our website at thetradedesk.com in the Investor Relations section.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that except for historical information, some of the discussion and our responses in Q&A may contain forward-looking statements, which are dependent upon certain risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements represent our beliefs and assumptions only as of the date such statements are made. Actual results may vary significantly and we expressly assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Should any of our beliefs or assumptions prove to be incorrect, actual financial results could differ materially from our projections or those implied by these forward-looking statements. I encourage you to refer to the risk factors referenced in our press release and included in our most recent SEC filings.

In addition to reporting our GAAP financial results, we present supplemental non-GAAP financial data. A reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP measures can be found in our earnings press release. We believe that providing non-GAAP measures, combined with our GAAP results, provides a more meaningful representation of the company’s operational performance.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Founder and CEO, Jeff Green. Jeff?

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Chris and thank you all for joining us. As Chris mentioned, I am thrilled to be speaking with you today from our Singapore office, our South Asia headquarters. This is the first time that I have been in Asia since January of 2020 due to the global pandemic. And it’s been great to reconnect with our team, our clients and our partners here in-person this week. Asia as a whole is crucial to our long-term growth and it’s always inspiring to spend time here, more on that later, but first, on to our results.

As you have seen in the release, The Trade Desk posted another very strong quarter with revenue growth up 31% year-over-year. We continue to gain share as advertisers embrace the precision and relevance of data-driven advertising on the open Internet via our platform. Throughout 2022 and in particular, in Q3, The Trade Desk has significantly outperformed seemingly all other forms of digital with a significant contrast to walled garden in our ability to win advertising budgets. It is very clear that under the current operating conditions, we are significantly outpacing the market regardless of the macro environment.

Our vision and business strategy continues to be validated by our advertising clients. Nearly every single major advertiser wants a world where the open Internet thrives, where competition and price discovery thrive. They want great measurement that works across the web so that they can compare the performance of each site app or destination to all the others. They want an Internet where relative value can be found as we have predicted CTV is a catalyst for massive change on the Internet, when possible, the power balance is shifting to the open Internet away from opaque walled gardens and systems that aren’t comparable to others. In short, more and more, our clients embrace the value of the open internet compared to the limitations of walled gardens and they are embracing The Trade Desk as the default platform to execute on the open Internet.

This is resulting in closer relationships with the largest brands and agencies in the world. Our client relationships are stronger than ever, because they are based on shared values and goals, a strong buy-side roadmap and Internet where relative value and objective measurement can thrive with data-driven empowerment for brands and advertisers rather than a tech company who is just asking the brand or agency to outsource media buying to them and send their first-party data down a one-way street. Because of this contrast, we are signing joint business plans with brands at a record pace.

Some of the largest JBPs signed this year represent spend of over $1 billion in the future. In this way, not only do these JBPs position the Trade Desk for future growth, but they also create an environment for joint programmatic innovation. JBPs represent strong alignment with brands that only come as a result of not owning media, whether it’s decision CTV, new approaches to identity, unleashing first-party data, advanced data and retail marketplaces, our clients are working with us to pioneer the future of digital advertising. With this context, hopefully, you can see why we continue to outperform the industry and gain share and why we are confident that our future growth outpaces the projections of almost everyone else in our industry.

Just one more data point on the market overall and how we are performing. WPP’s GroupM predictive worldwide advertising will increase 8.4% in 2022 and we are growing at more than 3x that rate. CTV continues to be a key growth driver and our shopper marketing initiatives are yielding very encouraging results. While still early, it’s only our third full quarter total shopper marketing spend increased nearly 3x from Q2 to Q3. As we said at Investor Day, we believe that more than 80% of the largest retailers in the United States partner with The Trade Desk and more of the world’s leading retailers are also now following suit. The chorus of retailers making retail measurement available is furthering the power and benefits of an open competitive Internet, while CTV maybe the biggest force of change for the open Internet, perhaps retail media and its accompanying data is a close second.

Political also continues to perform well. Mid-term election – over mid-term election, we have exponentially grown our business. We are proud of the work we do in political advertising, particularly our focus on helping provide a better advertising process for all political candidates. We are an objective and independent platform open to registered candidates on both sides. With all of this in mind, I believe that through the first 9 months of the year, we have gained more market share, grabbed more land than at any point in our history.

To provide more color on why, I’d like to touch on three areas. First is the growing importance of programmatic on the open Internet even in a volatile macro environment; second is the transformational role of CTV and showcasing that value; and last is the critical mass and support that is growing around Unified ID 2.0. And why this is so important in building the new identity fabric of the Internet. So first, in terms of the macro environment, increasingly, advertisers view programmatic as one of the most effective ways to drive relevance and differentiation, especially in times of market volatility. And perhaps even more importantly, they believe that the open Internet is the best place to create that value compared to the limitations of the walled gardens.

You only have to look at a couple of comments made by the CFO of P&G during the most recent earnings call a couple of weeks ago. As you may know, Procter & Gamble is one of the world’s largest and most progressive advertisers. He said, and I quote, it is difficult to describe media sufficiency in dollars, especially when we are actively shifting our spending from linear non-targeted TV into programmatic and into digital spend. That is a lot more targeted and a lot more precise in terms of delivering reach and quality of reach where we need it. We now have more than 50% of our media spend in digital. We are increasing our first-party data and our digital capabilities to increase precision of reach, not only in the U.S. or in Europe, but around the world and that is allowing us to drive significant productivity while increasing reach while increasing quality of reach and while more precisely targeting our consumers.

Back in early 2020, as we entered that short-lived COVID dip, I talked about how easy it was for large brands to turn off programmatic with the first hand of uncertainty. But what you are hearing from P&G there and what I hear from major brands around the world everyday now is that programmatic is a central and critical component of any campaign. The world’s most sophisticated advertisers understand that as they get more pressure from their CFOs to demonstrate the value and return of every advertising dollar, one of the best places to do that is on our platform.

We provide objective transparent measurement. We provide precision and relevance. We allow advertisers to optimize based on real-time performance and we provide access to the world’s most advanced data marketplace including many of the world’s biggest retailers. CMOs and CFOs are carefully watching costs and spend at this moment. It is why we are particularly excited by the growth on our platform this quarter. This moment is also a time when advertisers have clear goals and our objective partnership is really important to them achieving those goals.

We recently ran a campaign for Clarence, one of the world’s largest multinational cosmetic companies. They wanted to reach career women with a specific new product in the UK. They wanted to do it cost effectively with minimal waste with optimal precision. Using our platform, they were able to launch a multi-channel campaign, including mobile, CTV, digital out-of-home and audio. They were able to pivot based on channel performance and retarget based on engagement. As a result, they were able to drive significant new traffic to their website, 8% of whom purchased the product, driving an exponential sales increase, all as part of a highly decisioned campaign that was automatically optimized on the fly to maximize performance and minimize waste in an environment with ROI scrutiny of every advertising dollar. This is exactly the kind of campaign optimization that CMOs are looking for. And as a result, they are increasingly gravitating to our platform.

Nowhere is this more apparent than CTV, the second area I want to cover. Once again, CTV was our fastest growing channel and it has rapidly become our largest. For years now, we have been talking about how the English-speaking markets have been leading the adoption of CTV advertising. The U.S. and Australia have been great leaders and case studies for the world, both benefiting from the fragmented and competitive nature of content in their markets, but now CTV adoption is going global.

Perhaps the most bullish statement I will make this year is that our CTV spend grew in the majority of our international markets faster than it did in the United States. I have said previously that the U.S. and Australia are leading the way on CTV and that markets like the UK and France are following fast, but that pace is picking up in all corners of the world, especially as advertisers look for more relevance and precision in their biggest campaign category.

Let me give you a couple of quick examples. When Mercedes launched a new C-class model in Australia this year, they wanted to lift brand awareness among the key demographics. Working with us, they were able to deploy a CTV strategy that reached 1.5 million households with precision and which ultimately increased brand awareness 11% among their key targets. ViewSonic is a multinational electronics company headquartered in Taiwan. They wanted to launch a new monitor aimed at gamers in key markets such as India, the Philippines, Germany and UK. Working with us, they launched a CTV campaign, which was constantly optimized via Koa on our platform letting them iterate based on campaign performance and engagement. They saw significant improvements in all aspects of the campaign performance from reach to cost effectiveness compared to industry benchmarks. They were also able to link thousands of new engagements on their product website directly to the campaign.

Back in the U.S., Lexus wanted to reach a new generation of millennial buyers for their luxury cars most of whom have abandoned linear TV and moved in mass to streaming platforms. They were able to target key audiences with little to no waste and effective frequency management. They were able to reach 15 million potential new customers driving 5x more website traffic than the previous year, with an astonishing 67% improvement in purchase intent among key targets.

Our success in CTV is multifaceted. On our platform, we have built the optimization tools that enable advertisers to drive these kind of results with precision as part of an omnichannel strategy. But on the inventory side, we have developed very close working partnerships with pretty much every premium CTV provider worldwide. While much has been said about Netflix moving to advertising and we are excited about what that opportunity means for our industry and our business, there are many leading content providers that are driving innovation in CTV.

Not enough has been said in recent months about what is happening from the content creators who have long histories in advertising and what they are doing to continue to innovate. Disney will launch advertising on the Disney+ platform in December and they are incredibly progressive in how they are enabling advertisers to leverage their own first-party data via UID2. We are very proud to be their partner. Transaction volume will grow over time and their standards on ad load and the use of UID2 will put pressure on the rest of the industry to think about CTV in a way that maximizes advertiser value and optimizes the consumers’ experience.

Peacock is one of our longest standing CTV partners. As with many broadcasters who begin the CTV journey, much of our work with them was initially in a fixed price context, testing the market. But I am thrilled to report today the vast majority of Peacock inventory that flows through our system is fully decisioned and biddable. And as a result, CPMs have increased significantly, while advertisers are spending more and of course, seeing more value. CTV providers that understand the benefits and gains of fully biddable and decisioned inventory will win over time. They will maximize revenue by helping advertisers drive precision and relevance. UID2 is rapidly emerging as a key new CTV identity currency as I predicted it would.

Let’s remember that cookies are not present in CTV. There is nothing about the role of UID2 in CTV that is a response to the deprecation of cookies. Rather, it is recognition among CTV leaders that they need a way to provide advertisers with relevance in a way that protects consumer privacy as part of omnichannel campaigns. One of the first CTV platforms to embrace UID2 was Fubo and the results they have seen have been incredibly impressive. Fubo itself has seen ad revenues on our platform increase 113% faster than impression growth.

Advertising spend on Fubo on our platform has increased more than 60% and CPMs are up significantly. And with UID2, they are also able to deliver more value to advertisers. One e-commerce retailer saw a 25% in conversion rate and a 14% improvement in return on ad-spend. There is a tremendous amount of transformation happening in our industry and on our platform. The adoption of UID2 by the infrastructure of the Internet is transforming the open Internet and where marketers put their very first dollar. In the coming quarters, we will talk more about all the amazing changes happening in identity, often driven by CTV. 2023 will likely have more market changes that create secular shifts in our direction with more data, more decisioning, better results and the best CTV experience consumers could ever have.

One of the key factors in our progress with UID2 has been our success with the world’s leading data aggregators such as AWS, Snowflake, Salesforce, Adobe and many, many others. Put simply, these companies house the first-party data of the world’s leading advertisers. With UID2, advertisers can transact on that data without it ever leaving home. Because of this progress, I predict that more than half of the data inventory flowing through our platform by early next year, will be UID2 tag.

With more and more of our publishers’ inventory also UID tagged, that means the value of advertiser first-party data increases exponentially on our platform, more than 10x next year compared to this year. With this progress, the strategic value of UID2 in helping advertisers drive relevance in a privacy-centric manner becomes undeniable. While most of our advertisers are already transacting on UID2 on our platform in some way, I expect they will fully embrace it next year, because we have done the hard work on the data and the inventory side, advertisers now have every incentive to fully unleash the first-party data in a way that will supercharge their campaigns. They will finally be able to realize the value of their first-party data to model and understand where their next generation and most loyal customers are and reach those customers with precision, and of course, do that more effectively than ever. This gives me tremendous confidence for 2023 and beyond.

I’d like to close by just touching on our business here in Asia, as I have spent time with our teams here over the last few days. We are seeing great momentum across the region. We have recently posted some of the biggest months ever in offices such as Melbourne and New Delhi as we have benefited from new JBPs and MSAs across the region. We have built strategic partnerships with major inventory players in all of our key markets here.

As I said during Investor Day, most publishers I speak with complain that they do not believe that they are getting their fair share of spend today relative to the walled gardens. That’s true here in Asia, too. I met with one of the largest publishers here and they understand they need to maximize revenue on their digital content, but they need greater access to global advertiser demand. Many inventory partners in Asia are facing the same problem. As a result, they are looking to partner with The Trade Desk, a partner they can trust to be objective and transparent in delivering maximum advertiser value.

On the demand side, Asia is witnessing the emergence of the largest middle class population in history. It is essential for brands to reach these consumers through the channels they use most. And in Asia, that means CTV or OTT or mobile, and of course, premium video on mobile. Because we made investments early across the Asia-Pacific region and in many key channels such as mobile, OTT and digital out-of-home, we are in a great position to build on those investments in the years ahead.

To come back to where I started in Asia and around the world, the biggest brands in the world increasingly appreciate the value of data-driven advertising on our platform. We have established trust with advertisers and their agencies that we can deliver growth for their business in any macroeconomic environment. Many of them are now trusting us with significant multiyear partnerships. This means we have very high client retention rates. It means we can innovate with our clients to deliver premium value. Our focus on profitability funds that innovation and ensures that we will remain at the bleeding edge of our industry and that we never have to compromise our beliefs.

As a result, we are one of the few high-growth technology companies that consistently generate strong adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. While I don’t often comment on competitor performance, I do think it’s worth noting again that in an environment where many of our competitors have contracted or grew in the single-digit range, we grew 31%. That shows that we are outperforming the market and that we are gaining share, even in what many are calling a challenging macro environment.

While we will never be immune from those macro challenges, we are confident that we will continue to outperform. I could not be more confident and excited about how we are positioned for 2023 and beyond. Our business has many growth drivers, as we have discussed today and we will continue to innovate to lead the market and I am confident that the world’s leading advertisers will continue to default to our platform as they seek to drive their own business growth via advertising.

With that, I will hand the call over to Blake, who will give you more color on the quarter.

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Blake Grayson
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. First, it was great to see so many of you at our Investor Day last month in New York City. We always appreciate the opportunity to dive deeper into the drivers of our business and discuss our strategy in more detail. As our performance in Q3 shows we continue to execute extremely well in the current environment. We continue to grab share and significantly outpace our peers.

We again delivered year-over-year revenue growth well into the double-digits, while many companies in the ad funded space have seen low single-digit or even negative year-over-year revenue growth. We have also managed our expenses efficiently, delivering strong adjusted EBITDA and cash flow. Once again, our results reflect the continued shift from advertisers toward data-driven advertising and the open Internet as they continue to shift away from linear channels and walled gardens.

Revenue in Q3 was $395 million, representing an increase of 31% year-over-year. While the macro environment has created some uncertainty, which we are not immune to, our platform continues to deliver value for advertisers and we are building trust with our clients for the long-term. During the quarter, growth was broad-based across channels and verticals. We saw continued strength from CTV, which again led our growth from a scaled channel perspective. We are seeing progress in our shopper marketing business as our customers deploy retail data in more and more of their campaigns.

And we continue to see positive results as advertisers utilize Solimar to sharpen campaign goals and activate our industry-leading AI. Q3 was another example of our ability to grow top line while scaling our cost structure efficiently, helping to drive meaningfully positive EBITDA and cash flow. Third quarter adjusted EBITDA was $163 million, representing a margin of 41%. I’m proud of our sustained efforts to consistently generate strong EBITDA while continuing to invest in the critical areas of our business that will prepare us for the tighter wave of opportunity ahead while still producing cash flow that helps fund our future growth.

Our trailing 12-month free cash flow of nearly $500 million is up 53% from a year ago. While there will always be periods where we may lean into investment due to the opportunity, over the long-term, the best business models in the world generate long-term growth, profits and cash. I’m fortunate to be part of a team that considers all of these in our investment decisions.

From a channel perspective, CTV by a wide margin led our growth again during the quarter. Exiting Q3, video, which includes CTV represented a low 40s percentage share of our business and continues to grow rapidly as a percentage of our mix. Mobile represented a high 30s percentage share of spend during the quarter as growth was again solid across both in app and mobile video. Display represented a low teens percent of our business and audio represented around 5%.

Geographically, North America represented about 90% of spend, and international represented about 10% of spend in Q3. Spend growth in North America was resilient as we continue to win new business and gain share. CTV across Southeast Asia and Europe was very strong during the quarter, growing faster than in any other region. While still small compared to CTV spend in North America, we’re encouraged to see CTV in both Europe and Southeast Asia rapidly increase year-over-year relative to their overall spend.

Despite an uncertain macro environment, particularly in Europe, we remain focused on the long-term investments that will position us for strength when conditions improve. In an uncertain environment like today, advertisers become more deliberate with their ad spend, scrutinizing the effectiveness of their ad budgets much more carefully than they have done previously. As we have shown during similar environments in the past, as advertisers become more deliberate and data-driven with their ad spend, The Trade Desk wins more budget.

Every ad run on our platform is measurable, and we are focused on driving the highest returns for every campaign as our clients are. As we’re starting to hear more publicly from the largest and most sophisticated advertisers in the world, they are beginning to prioritize programmatic decision advertising investments first because it delivers higher returns than they have seen in other channels.

And on top of that, our company’s unbiased partnership with them and that we don’t own inventory, we don’t compete with our customers, and we offer an unrivaled data marketplace where they can inspect, measure and enhance campaigns in ways that walled gardens either refuse to offer or merely cannot match, creates a durable advantage that we believe makes the future very bright for us and for our customers.

In terms of the verticals that represent at least 1% of our spend travel more than doubled compared with a year ago. Food and drink, automotive and technology were also very strong. Our automotive vertical is seeing a bit of a resurgence as a result of winning new business with large automotive manufacturers and the easing of supply chain issues the industry has seen over the better part of the last 2.5 years. Hobbies and interest in education were both below the average. Additionally, as expected, political was strong and represented a low single-digit percent of spend in Q3. We continue to believe there is still potential for share gain and improvement in most of our verticals.

Turning now to expenses. Q3 operating expenses, excluding stock-based compensation, were $245 million, up 32% year-over-year. Operating expenses during the quarter were primarily driven by investments in our team, particularly in areas like sales and marketing as we scale prudently to support long-term growth as well as return to office expenses. Income tax was $15 million for the quarter. Adjusted net income was $129 million or $0.26 per fully diluted share. Net cash provided by operating activities was $137 million for Q3 and free cash flow was $112 million. DSOs exit in the quarter were 92 days, up 5 days from a year ago. DPOs were 74 days, up 1 day from a year ago. We exited Q3 with a strong cash and liquidity position. Cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments ended the quarter at $1.3 billion. We have no debt on the balance sheet.

Turning to our outlook for the fourth quarter. We estimate Q4 revenue to be at least $490 million, which would represent growth of 24% on a year-over-year basis. In Q4, we anticipate U.S. political midterm election spend to about double compared with the prior quarter. We estimate adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $229 million in Q4. From a stock-based compensation perspective, we expect absolute stock-based compensation expense to decline year-over-year in Q4 due to the timing of the CEO performance award granted in Q4 of 2021. While uncertainty about the macro environment remains, we continue to feel confident in our ability to execute and gain share in the quarters and years ahead. Given the large and growing addressable market in front of us, we see significant opportunities to prudently invest in our business to innovate and to widen the distance between ourselves and our competition.

In closing, we are extremely pleased with our strong performance in the third quarter. We continue to demonstrate our ability to drive both profitable growth and achieve significant share gains with large growth drivers, including the secular shift to CTV, attracting more shopper marketing budgets, scaling our international operations to be ready when the macro environment improves, innovating the data marketplace, the U.S. midterm election cycle as well as elevated pressure on walled gardens, we remain optimistic for the remainder of Q4 and into 2023.

That concludes our prepared remarks. With that, operator, let’s open up the call for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question for today is coming from Shyam Patil at SIG.

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Shyam Patil
SIG

Hi, guys. Nice job on execution. I had a couple of questions. Jeff, can you expand and talk a little bit more about what you’re seeing with the macro? And then separately, just how you see the setup as we go into next year? And then just as a quick follow-up, Blake, could you just talk a little bit more about the 4Q guide and just some of your assumptions there? Thank you, guys.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Shyam. I appreciate the question. So let me first start with the macro and talk about this year. So I don’t know that I have ever been more proud of our performance than what we just put up in Q3. And that’s in large part because of the relative outperformance where most other stocks are either negative or reporting single-digit growth. We put up 31% and we’re doing that in an environment that is a little bit more uncertain. If there was an advertising mix, it would be at an all-time high and it’s hard to say whether that’s because of macro headwinds or mostly macro uncertainty, but it would be high because of one of those themes in each case. But because we’re definitely in an environment regardless of where that’s coming from, where advertisers have to do more with less, it means more that we’re winning share in this environment. And I definitely believe that we’re grabbing land. So I take a lot of comfort in what Procter & Gamble said in their earnings report, which is that we are actively shifting our spend from linear to non-targeting TV into programmatic and digital that is a lot more precise. And so when you look at just the overall macro environment, I just think we’re just doing so incredibly well on a relative basis, that it’s hard not to be proud, it’s hard not to look at what we’ve done and see grabbing land.

But when you turn our attention to 2023, and you start to look at all the new inventory that’s going to come into CTV, whether that’s from Disney+ or digital inventory from Peacock or HBO or Netflix or Paramount Plus or Fox or ESPN or Hulu or the fact that we reported in earnings that this year, 11 markets outside the United States outperformed in the United States in premium video or connected television. And then you look at the UID tailwinds that we have, we just surpassed 600 partners in UID and that we’re activating data at an unprecedented level. We are going to go from a minority of our – or I’m sorry, of our data on our platform being enabled by UID to the majority of our third-party data being enabled by the beginning of next year. So we’ll finish that work this year going from minority to majority. I do believe that in 2023, we will have the best data marketplace that the ecosystem has ever had. I think we will have the best first-party data onboarding that we’ve ever had.

And that’s not even talking about OpenPath, which we didn’t really have time to talk about in our prepared remarks, which will be direct integrations with hundreds of the world’s largest content owners and that will accelerate our growth in land grabbing around the world irrespective of the macro environment in 2023. And of course, last but not least, with such partnering with over 80% of the largest retailers in the United States and of course, partnering with many all over the world, all of those trends point to an incredible opportunity for us in 2023, that wouldn’t be possible without the grabbing of land that we’re doing right now. So with that, I’ll pass it over to Blake to just talk a little bit more about the second part of your question.

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Blake Grayson
Chief Financial Officer

Hey, thanks, Shyam, for the question. So your question on Q4, just to start off on Q3, again, fundamentally great quarter, actually pretty steady, too, which was great to see 31% revenue growth off a relatively hard comp last year of 39%. And political has ramped up for us as well. So like you’ve already seen standout performance versus peers who are growing at much smaller or negative rates, again, CTV led the way, still opportunity there. Shopper marketing is ramping up well for us, too. The Solimar adoption is exciting. We’ve got the momentum on UID as well. And so just grabbing share from company zone, and you’ve heard us talk about these JBPs as well. That’s also been ramping and has been strong. And so as you think about, as when we think about going into Q4 in our setup, again, relative to the rest of the industry in Q4, we’re growing significantly faster, which, in my mind, just confirms we’re grabbing share. Advertisers are be more deliberate. I just personally believe we’re in a better position now than we were coming out of COVID. As a Chief Financial Officer or CFO, I definitely appreciate the uncertainty that so many of my peers are facing right now, right? Like the best CFOs are actively working to rationalize the investments that they are making and they are prioritizing the ones that have proven measurable returns. And in that environment, The Trade Desk we gained share because companies are now prioritizing programmatic as the first place to invest that first dollar. So while you can obviously dial programmatic up and down quickly, it’s doing really well for us. And to me, that just shows the power and the value of this model. Now specifically with regards to Q4 a couple of lots, not only is our Q4 sequential growth well into the double digits as many app funded companies are flat or negative. We’re actually forecasting accelerating growth on a year-over-year basis in Q4. And I recognize that there’s a political impact in there. But when I just step back a bit and look at a year-over-year acceleration in Q4 in this environment, to me, that’s a standout performance for us and it gives us a lot of optimism about our future and the momentum that we’ve got. And I hope that helps.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Shyam. Next question, Holly.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Youssef Squali at Truist Securities.

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Youssef Squali
Truist Securities

Great. Thank you very much. I have two questions. First, maybe, Blake, can you talk about the – how you look at the expense structure for 2023, maybe talk about the puts and takes, growth versus the need to invest more? Do you expect margins to improve relative to where you are for – or will you end up in 2022? And Jeff, maybe going back to connected TV, very impressive kind of both numbers and color commentary. Can you maybe speak to the competitive positioning that you guys have relative to other CTV players? And do you believe that you are actually gaining share or losing share relative to other players that arguably are also benefiting from growth in CTV next year? Thank you.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Blake, first I’ll take the second and Tim, if you don’t mind, adding color after I deal on CTV.

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Blake Grayson
Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Hi, Youssef, thanks for the question. So with regards to thinking about expense structure in 2023 and so I really just like stepping back a bit to remind everyone that the business model in the situation we’re in highly desirable, right? We’ve got a situation where we’re driving high top line growth. We’ve got high adjusted EBITDA growth with strong margins. And we’ve got not only strong free cash flow generation, but consistent free cash flow generation. So having all of those working together, which they are, it gives us an opportunity and ability to be deliberate with the choices that we make. I’m just also super proud of our ability to stay disciplined with our investments regardless of the operating environment. I – there’s a lot of companies out there that may have more resources than us that are pausing or even cutting their resources because they potentially invested too aggressively. And we didn’t get ahead of ourselves the last couple of years. I think maybe like some of these companies did, and that’s paid off for us. We have the ability to stay the course and we deliver it about our investments, and that includes hiring. As we think about 2023 specifically, should we see any significant changes in the situation, we definitely have levers available to make changes if we need to.

You saw us do that in 2020 during COVID, we can adapt. But still, the expense structure of the company today is better than it was pre-pandemic. But overall though, and I’ve said this on a number of calls, we’re always looking for ways to invest and drive growth that we think pays off for the long run. For 2023 specifically, I would say a couple of things. We do expect return-to-office expenses like travel and live events to return to pre COVID levels. And the other thing to keep in mind is I would expect seasonality of our expenses next year to be a bit more like 2016 to 2019 than they were in 2020, 2021.

And just for example, we have our large company event that will finally move back to its regular timing in Q1, it was held in Q2 of this year. That’s just a great opportunity to bring our team together, especially after what’s gone on in the past few years, whether we’re solidifying our culture, framing our strategy versus the opportunity we’ve got. And also just highlighting, again, the discipline perspective we take as a company about driving profitable growth. So looking into 2023, I think we’re in a great position to drive more scale and efficiency and free cash flow. And we have so many opportunity areas to focus on. I’m really excited about that. And then...

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

I’ll start on CTV and then Tim if you want to speak to it as well. So I really think there’s two parts to talk about on the CTV question. The first is just talk about the category a little bit and then also to just talk about why we win specifically inside the category. So of course, right now, at The Trade Desk, we’re living a secular tailwind that I don’t know that we’ve ever seen before, and I don’t know that we’ll ever see again and that is going to continue into 2023, largely because of the amount of inventory that is coming online. But also as you look across the open Internet, and whether that’s inside of display or native or audio or any other channel because CTV is leading the way in forging the future of identity, CTV is not just leading in our business and not just the most interesting thing happening in programmatic, but it’s the most interesting thing happening in ad-funded media.

And so as a result, CTV is the first – is quickly becoming the place where people spend their very first dollar and was not surprised at all to see our partner, Disney+ report 12 million new subscribers. And of course, Netflix added a couple of million themselves on just the promise of an ad-funded option coming soon. So there’s more inventory coming online, programmatic we’ll just continue to drive CTV. And I do believe that very soon, CTV will be the most data-driven channel. And that to me is one of the things to really just focus on in terms of why we’re winning inside of CTV. So why are we winning above everyone else.

So in order to be competitive, you do have to be omni-channel. So you can’t just be focused on CTV because you take the data and the learnings from all other channels and then apply those to CTV where CTV is a top of the funnel activity where you’re typically creating awareness. And then all the other channels are follow-ups, if you will, to that really effective moving picture and sound that happens inside of CTV. And so in order to be most effective, you have to be holistic. So you have to be omnichannel, but you also have to be global and then very importantly, you have to be objective, which means you can’t compete with any of the content owners, which is one of the themes that is really a problem for most of the walled gardens, especially Google, which is that, of course, they have their own media in YouTube. And so content creators are not eager to part with somebody – or to partner with somebody that they compete with in their very – in the core of their business.

So by being objective and not competing with them by being global, by being omni-channel and then there’s something that we say all the time to every content owner on the Internet, and that is that you have to have an authentication strategy and you have to have an identity strategy. And we’re able to go to the content owners and partner with them on both of those things. And you see this with Disney. Disney is doing extremely well. We’ve been very vocal. They have been very vocal about our partnership on UID. It is a part of their authentication and identity strategy. That is what makes personalized ads possible. That’s what makes high CPM as possible. That’s what makes low ad loads possible. So we become a really critical partner for them while not competing with them because we’re objective. You put all that together, and that’s the reason we’re winning. But I’m sure Tim, you can say more about this.

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Tim Sims
Chief Revenue Officer

Yes. Youssef, thanks for the question. And as I look out next year and kind of why I think we’re differentiated and in a position to win, it’s a little bit of what Jeff said. So you’ve got a lot more inventory coming online. So as Jeff pointed out, we’ve got Disney+ and Netflix, they get a lot of the word count in the ecosystem right now. But let’s not forget, HBO Max, Paramount NBCU, Fox, the rest of Disney, Hulu, ESPN, ABC, etcetera are continuing to lean into programmatic. And the reason that they lean into us is if you think about it from their perspective, and they look back at the ecosystem of people who do what we do, a lot of those companies are competing with them. So they lean in heavily with us and they partner with us in a number of different ways, including on identity. So UID2, through our partnership with Disney, I think, is going to be a major catalyst for the CTV category. As a result, that inventory is going to have much richer decisioning going into next year across the entire category. So when I think about 2023, there’s this like perfect collision of addressability and scale in the premium content space that we’ve never seen before.

And I think that’s going to be a huge benefit to The Trade Desk because it’s mostly to date in this CTV story. And I think in 2023, it’s going to be a programmatic CTV story. And so I’m really excited for that in 2023 because I think all of these things combining that addressability and that scale is going to create an environment for CTV to be the most data-driven channel in programmatic next year. And I am really excited for that. And as a result, I think CTV is going to very quickly become the first dollar spent in digital media, and I think The Trade Desk is well positioned going into next year.

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Youssef Squali
Truist Securities

Super helpful.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Youssef. Next question, Holly.

Operator

Your next question for today is coming from Laura Martin with Needham.

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Laura Martin
Needham

Hey, Jeff, just following up on your comments about ID on connected television, the MAD data shows that 80% of viewing on connected television is shared does seem to undermine some of the targeting benefits that we had on individual devices like smartphones and tablets. That’s my first question. And then my second is China. You’re sitting in Singapore and you’re noticeably silent on China. So could you give us an update on what’s going on with China and your business these days? Thank you.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Fantastic. Thanks, Laura. Really appreciate the question. So when it comes to shared viewing or the impact that, that has on CPMs or does it pose a threat to the ecosystem or is it a problem for CTV, let me just first sort of answer that emphatically, by saying it’s not a problem for the ecosystem whether you frame it is CTV worth it. The answer is yes. Does it have a frequency capping problem, the answer is no. The bottom line is when we are considering, targeting or customizing ads, there is an individual graph, there is a household graph. Both of those are considered when we are making the placement of ads and shared viewing doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s worth any less. And in fact, what we are competing with is an environment in linear or broadcast television that is almost always shared viewing, but it’s not measurable. So, finally, we have the ability to measure when it’s being shared and when it’s not. And of course, a lot of premium video is on personalized devices. And I have been reminded about it again and again this week as I am here in Asia and reminded how much premium video is consumed on mobile devices. So, household and individual graphs are both considered, but when you compare the sort of spray and pray a broadcast or traditional television, into the efficacy, the targeting, the identity-driven lower ad load with content that is more premium, you put all of that together, the impact on digital is exponentially more valuable than a linear broadcast and the efficacy has gone up way more than the cost. And as that phenomenon continues to unfold in 2023 that Tim was just describing really well, which is that it’s becoming a programmatic story where there is more inventory, and we can select more and more from the sort of wider selection of ads, the personalization, the customization, the efficacy is only going to continue to go up. So, it’s absolutely worth the shared viewing. I don’t even view as an issue. I don’t spend time thinking about it. So, as it relates to China, China is of course, one of the largest markets in the world, and we are constantly keeping our eye on the fact that while as a media market, it’s about half the size of the United States. It is growing at twice the pace. As you recall, last year, China was our fastest-growing office in the world. This year, that hasn’t been true, but that’s largely just because of macroeconomic headwinds and geopolitical issues.

So, we have been quiet, in large part because of those geopolitical issues and because there has been some slowdown. If the geopolitical issues weren’t enough, there is also COVID lockdown that has affected them in a very significant way. But we have been quarter-over-quarter, up over 100% in this environment. Shanghai is no longer our smallest office, which it was just 18 months ago. And we just – we continue to believe that while the English-speaking world has led much of CTV, the Chinese-speaking world is the second most important as it relates to the premium video play and that we continue to look at China and all the Chinese-speaking nations of the world as a very important battleground for the future of global television and premium video, so still excited and bullish just a bunch of things that make a fair amount of uncertainty. Thanks, Laura. Appreciate the question.

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Chris Toth
Vice President, Investor Relations

Next question Holly.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Justin Patterson at KeyBanc.

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Justin Patterson
KeyBanc

Great. Thank you very much. Two, if I can. Jeff, as you exit the year and have these data initiatives and OpenPath kicking in the year, how should we think about the competitive landscape and how that looks in 2023 versus what we have observed in the past? If I look at some recent commentary by Proctor & Gamble, it seems like there is a lot more programmatic budget and relationships up for grabs heading into next year. And then for Blake, I appreciate your color on the Q4 guide. Could you please put a finer point on some of the trends you observed quarter-to-date? And how we should think about growth over the rest of the quarter? Thank you.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So, I think you are right in that. There is more and more budget that’s going into programmatic. I think the commentary that we have heard from Procter & Gamble is indicative of that. As you have heard us say before, the supply chains of the open Internet, but really the supply chains of the entire ad-funded Internet have become a little bit murky and as often happens when markets mature, become just much more complicated. So, it becomes more and more important for us to be obsessing about supply chains or supply pads. I have said before that I think one way to characterize the success of Amazon, it is that they have had an executive team that has just obsessed about the supply chain and just making certain that they are getting things as efficiently as possible so that they can deliver to their consumers the best product as fast as possible for the best possible price. We have applied that same sort of obsession to the media supply chain, which in some ways is even more complicated. And we have said, as often as possible, we want to make certain that no one in the middle is taking more in fees or tax than they are adding in value. And we do believe that, that happens a fair amount of time because of complication and because of sort of draconian tactics of some of the biggest tech players in the world. Our way of combating that is to release products like OpenPath, where we plug in directly with the biggest publishers in the world. We have had a number of conversations with content creators, whether that’s in CTV or in mobile apps or in traditional web development, where they have said they don’t feel like anyone is representing them the way they would like to and they would like to do their own yield management and plug in with us directly. That creates a more efficient supply chain, while us maintaining our role on the buy side as well as our objectivity. So, when you couple that with all the data initiatives going into 2023, and I have said in the prepared remarks that I believe because of Unified ID data, especially first-party data will be 10x more valuable in 2023 than it’s ever been historically. And that’s largely just because of the math of UID and the scale of UID and not having to sync like we did in cookies, not only is the Internet getting an upgrade because we are going from an opt-out Internet to an opt-in Internet, but we are also getting rid of some of the clunkiness that cookies had, which makes a data-driven Internet just so much more effective. And of course, it’s better for consumers when it’s opt-in. You put all that together, we have a more effective supply chain. While budgets are up for grabs, we think that we are more likely to get the first dollar than anyone else. And what has happened over the most of the history of The Trade Desk is that we got the leftovers from search and social and the walled gardens. And what’s starting to happen now is we are getting the very first dollar, and that’s happening more and more. We expect that to continue as a secular tailwind that CTV continues. So, I appreciate the question.

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Blake Grayson
Chief Financial Officer

And then, Justin, just on your question on the Q4 trend, one way maybe to think about it is, it’s a little bit of a tale of two cities like and you have heard us say this before, like or a cave shape recovery, if you will, for certain verticals. Some areas like travel and auto are outperforming and they are making up for lost time. Some areas are more challenged. You have heard us talk about Europe, but as we have said that before. But specific to Europe, as we have said, we have seen incredible CTV growth there, which is amazing in light of the macro challenges. So, it makes me super optimistic for the future for us there. And then the automotive growth, especially it’s been especially exciting to see some gains there. We have won new business and then some more existing from existing customers after a period of volatility over the past 2-or-so years. And so I think that – and then even if you talk about CPG companies, you got some that are doing incredibly well and then some that still have some supply chain challenges as well. So, I think that the breadth of the advertisers and the verticals that we represent bodes super well for us and like there is still areas of opportunity for us to gain share there, too.

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Justin Patterson
KeyBanc

Thanks.

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Chris Toth
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks Justin.

Operator

Your next question for today is coming from Tom White at D.A. Davidson.

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Tom White
D.A. Davidson

Great. Thanks. Given the elections here yesterday, I thought I would ask a question on political. Jeff, any big takeaways around political ad spend this cycle? Any learnings that we should kind of take away that you are taking away as to the future of political ad spend on CTV and I guess, just digital broadly? Thanks.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

You bet. So, one thing that’s happened in the past is that we have seen them sort of focus on social and other parts of political. But what we have definitely seen this time is that CTV is the preferred channel for political advertisers, and it’s playing a larger role in every election cycle. One thing that is just really important for me to note is that as there has been more and more mistrust of specific tech platforms in the political environment, we are really proud of the work that we have done to focus on providing a better democratic process for both sides of the aisle and making certain that our platform is objective and independent so that we can power both Democrats and Republicans and anybody else for that matter. And I think our team has done a phenomenal job over really the last decade in winning trust and providing reassurance to both sides that we are going to provide them with an objective platform that’s going to make it possible for them to do the very best and sort of let the process do its thing. It’s our job to run a better process not to advocate for specific candidates or to get in the middle politics more specifically. And as a result of creating that arm’s length relationship, we once again believe we have run a better process and been a key contributor to running a healthy election. We expect that to grow in 2024 as we move into the next presidential cycle. But once again, CTV plays a very significant role, and we think it will play a bigger role in every election going forward. And we are really excited to see the election or election growth and expect that to continue into the future. So, I appreciate the question.

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Tom White
D.A. Davidson

Thanks.

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Chris Toth
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks Tom.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Brian Fitzgerald at Wells Fargo.

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Brian Fitzgerald
Wells Fargo

Thanks. Jeff, I want to know if you could talk about your decisioning intensity in CTV maybe versus other channels, particularly in the context of private marketplace deals and things of that ilk. Do you do as much heavy lifting there versus other channels? And do you get pushed back on pricing and any differences in the intensity there and also in CPMs?

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I appreciate the question, Brian. So, we have been asked some form of this question over time in various ways. And it’s essentially to say do we add less value in CTV, or should we be charging less? So, it’s – are just two different ways of asking that question. And I would argue that we add more value in CTV than we do in any other channel. And also the value that we are adding is going up over time. So, the first part of that is the reason why we are adding more value is because the stakes are higher. If you in the stock market, if you buy stocks at random or you buy them all in ETFs, they tend to go up over time. But if you buy ads at random, you will get your kicked every single time that you have to select very carefully. And in the world of CTV, when you are buying very highly expensive or high-cost impressions, the stakes are higher. You have to make certain that you use data to buy the right ones, you have to get reach and frequency right. And I would argue the only platform in the world that manages reach and frequency well on CTV is The Trade Desk. So, we add more value. And as time goes on, when you add more impressions, there is more opportunity to outperform and select more carefully. So, while there have been a series of PMPs or ways of buying and limited decisioning methodologies, those have gone down over time. And those are typically training wheels are on ramps for advertisers that over time are replaced with just high decisioning. And that’s where all of our biggest advertisers are heading. That’s where our product has done. And we think over time that we just continue to add more value for essentially the same cost as we do in everything else, but our take rate having remained the same, pretty much our entire existence as a publicly traded company. So, I think it’s something that has been important for us to clarify. And so I really appreciate the question, Brian.

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Brian Fitzgerald
Wells Fargo

Thanks Jeff.

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Chris Toth
Vice President, Investor Relations

Next question.

Operator

Your next question for today is coming from Jason Helfstein with Oppenheimer.

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Jason Helfstein
Oppenheimer

Thanks. Jeff, just a UID follow-up, we have heard concerns that publishers are being slow to adopt UID. What can you do to speed up adoption? And how are you thinking about this? Do you agree? Do you disagree? Thanks.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

You bet. So, I am constantly reminded that if you sat me down a year ago and said Jeff, write up a dream list of adopters. I don’t think I could have fictionalized or made up a list that’s more impressive than those that we have actually added AWS, Salesforce, Snowflake, Adobe, you heard us saying a year ago that we needed to add the infrastructure of the Internet. And those and hundreds of others represent that infrastructure with now approaching 600 partners. And that doesn’t even underscore the entire infrastructure of the data ecosystem of the Internet, names like Experian or InfoSum or so many others. So, with all of those coming online and then you add the CTV players companies like Disney, who have adopted it, and it will be just really critical next year that all CTV players are leveraging UID in order to get the personalization and the high CPMs that they all desperately need to compete. When you put all that together, I actually don’t have any idea where that assertion is coming from that publishers are going slow. The only way that I could possibly make sense of that, just that some of them, it takes a little bit of time to prioritize and actually implement. But in terms of commitment or signing or prioritizing, it’s there across the board. And we have so much momentum on the issue that I honestly, a year ago wouldn’t have thought it’s possible for us to have the momentum that we have now. And I believe it’s just critical for companies, especially content owners to be leveraging that in order to do well. And you will see us in 2023 push really hard to enable advertisers to bring their first-party data to bear. And I do think that, that will represent a very strong rebuttal to the value propositions of walled gardens and the leverage of first-party data and their ecosystems. Because here, they will get to put their first-party data to work and then measure relative performance, learn from it, take the learnings with them so that they can continue to improve their marketing and not just outsource advertising and marketing to walled gardens, which has historically been the only option that they have had. So, UID plays a really critical role in the future of the open Internet, and it’s doing its job.

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Chris Toth
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks Jason. Let’s take one more question Holly.

Operator

Your final question for today is coming from Michael Morris at Guggenheim.

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Michael Morris
Guggenheim

Thank you. Good morning guys. I have two topics I would like to ask about. One about the joint business plan momentum and one about Asia. So, on the first topic of the JBPs, I would love to hear how – if there is some way you could quantify or help us understand how much more valuable a partnership through a JBP is compared to sort of your run rate business or somebody, a partner who is not involved in one of those, how much value does it add? And also how penetrated is the market at this point for those? How much more runway do you feel you have with respect to the kind of addressable market for partners that are of this size that it makes sense for. So, that’s the first topic. And then the second just on Asia. Jeff, you did spend a lot of time talking about the opportunity there. The Asia-Pac market historically has been a pretty tough market for Western companies as they compete with local players. So, I would love to hear a little bit about why you think you can be successful where maybe some companies in the past have not? Thank you.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

You bet. Thank you. I am going to have Tim take the first part of the question on the JBPs, then I will add some color and talk about Asia.

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Tim Sims
Chief Revenue Officer

Yes. Michael, thanks for the question on the JBPs. I will kind of try to cover everything that you mentioned there. So, first, starting with what’s the difference between a JBP and a typical engagement. One of the major differences in the JBP is that these tend to be multiyear agreements between The Trade Desk and a brand or agency. And they tend to set kind of a partnership framework that often includes milestones for that partnership over that multiyear agreement, which is typically a longer period of time than a standard MSA that we would sign with a client. So, within that framework, typically the way that these work is that the advertiser, we sit down and we set goals for ourselves around things like how do we move more spend into the platform, how do we think about adjusting their investment mix moving it towards more data-driven advertising, how do we think about using platform features that they may be underutilizing. It’s a really great framework to structure how we build a stronger partnership with that brand or agency over a longer period of time. And one of the incredible benefits of that is it creates a lot of stickiness and engagement with our partners over that period of time because we are constantly checking in on achievement against those milestones. And I think the way that we look at those as just these longer term engagements is it really creates a lot of a deeper conversation with our partners so that we can really figure out how we are structuring these that are going to see the best interest of their business and how we can kind of jointly agree on what we are going to try to achieve together over a multiyear period. So, in the end, all that leads to a much more interesting and dynamic conversation and discussion over time. And we are really excited about the momentum that we have right now, and we are expecting to continue to build on that into the future with more JBPs with more clients.

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Jeff Green
Founder and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Tim. Well, said, I don’t have anything to add on the JBPs. I am excited to weigh in on Asia, though, because I really appreciate your question. And of course, we are also all sitting here in Singapore and nearing our 10-year anniversary of being here in the Asia market where we started here in Singapore. So, we have a team in our company that we are not an American company, we are a global company that happens to be based in the United States. And can we be successful in Asia, my response is we already are. 11 markets in CTV or premium video grew faster than the United States for us. So, when I say 11 markets, I am not – I am not talking about it in general. I am talking about The Trade Desk markets. Our spend grew faster in 11 markets for premium video outside the United States than it did inside the United States, the fastest region for growth around the world, Southeast Asia. It grew faster than Australia grew faster than North Asia, grew faster than Europe. It grew faster or South America. And that’s in large part because we are – just like in every other market, creating alternatives, especially UGC, where YouTube has a very dominant position in many of the markets here. But also you are seeing from the content creators that historically, they have had sort of a regional benefit where there is licensing that has prevented U.S. companies from competing with them in their markets. But one of the reasons why you have seen Australia a close rival to leading in terms of size or percentage of market moving to CTV with the U.S., those two leading the way is because with English language content that no longer having regional barriers, but English content is competing all over the world. And the same thing is happening with Chinese content and all others. So, what you are seeing is that the content owners are no longer viewing their next door neighbor in sort of broadcast as their biggest competitors, but instead looking at companies like Disney and Netflix is their biggest competitors around the world. So, they are all looking at the ad-funded options that those companies are creating around the world and saying that we quickly have to follow in order to compete. And so as a result, we are getting partnerships all over the world. We are setting up partnerships. That is the reason our executive team is here in Asia is because it’s not lost on us, but most of the GDP growth for the next 10 years is going to come out of Asia. And that in order for us to capture our fair share of that $1 trillion TAM, we have to be competitive in Asia as well as in other regions of the world. We are already doing that. And we have been doing that in this market despite things like the strong dollar and economic headwinds and some geopolitical issues, but we continue to do that because of strong partnership and a global mindset. And of course, we represent most of the largest brand in the world. And whether you are talking about Procter & Gamble or Coca-Cola or McDonald’s, these brands advertise all over the world, and it’s not lost on them that GDP growth is going to come out of Asia. It’s not lost on them that the fastest-growing middle class in the world is here in Asia. So, you put all of that together, it’s a market that we are already winning in and we will continue to do so. We have over invested. If you look at our employee count versus our revenue, of course, we are early, not late. And that’s a good thing, not a bad thing. Thank you.

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Chris Toth
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks Michael. And Holly, you can close up the call.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today’s conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.