Ocular Therapeutix Inc

NASDAQ:OCUL

Good afternoon, and welcome to Supernus Pharmaceuticals Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 financial results conference call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded.



I would now like to turn the conference over to Peter Vozzo of IVR Healthcare, Investor Relations representative for Supernus Pharmaceuticals. You may begin.

Thank you, Jacinda. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Supernus Pharmaceuticals' Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 financial results conference call. Today, after the close of the market, the company issued a press release announcing these results.



On the call with me today are Supernus' Chief Executive Officer, Jack Khattar; and Chief Financial Officer, Tim Dec. Today's call is being made available via the Investor Relations section of the company's website at ir.supernus.com.



During the course of this call, management may make certain forward-looking statements regarding future event and the company's future performance. These forward-looking statements reflect Supernus' current perspective on existing trends and information. Any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, including those noted in the Risk Factors section of the company's latest SEC filings. Actual results may differ materially from those projected in these forward-looking statement.



For the benefit of those of you who may be listening to the replay, this call is being held and recorded on February 25, 2025. Since then, the company may have made additional announcements related to the topics discussed. Please reference the company's most recent press releases and current filings with the SEC. Supernus declines any obligation to update these forward-looking statements, except as required by applicable securities laws.



I'll now turn the call over to Jack.

Thank you, Peter. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for taking the time to join us on today's call.



Our 2024 results reflect solid commercial execution across the company, including continued growth of our core products and strong growth in operating earnings. Our performance in 2024 underscored our emphasis on growing our core business despite the loss of exclusivity on both Trokendi XR and Oxtellar XR. Total revenues, excluding Trokendi XR and Oxtellar XR increased by 25% for the full year 2024. Driving this growth was Qelbree's robust performance with 25% growth in annual prescriptions as reported by IQVIA and 72% growth in annual net sales.



In the fourth quarter of 2024, prescriptions reached another all-time quarterly high of 214,600 prescriptions. In 2024, Qelbree's annual prescription growth outpaced that of the ADHD market that grew by 9%, reaching 103 million prescriptions. Qelbree's back-to-school momentum carried through the fourth quarter with sequential prescription growth of 11% compared to the third quarter. This prescription growth enabled Qelbree to have a strong fourth quarter with net sales reaching $74 million, representing a 60% increase over the fourth quarter of 2023.



In 2025, Qelbree is off to a good start with exciting news about the FDA approval of its updated label. The new label further elaborates and differentiates Qelbree's mechanism of action as a novel non-stimulant, reinforcing its multimodal pharmacodynamic profile and highlighting its unique partial agonist activity at the serotonin 5-HT2C receptor and inhibition of the norepinephrine transport.



Also, the label is now updated with new and important lactation data for breast-feeding women with ADHD. Such information is crucial for the important and growing adult female patient segment.



In addition, earlier this month, at the Annual National Psychopharmacology Update Conference, Supernus presented interim results from an open-label Phase IV trial with Qelbree in adult patients with ADHD and mood disorders. Interim data for the first 95 patients who completed the trial show improvements in clinician and patient-rated measures of ADHD, depression and anxiety symptoms. The data are encouraging and suggest that the effects of Qelbree may extend to adults with complex ADHD. The safety outcomes in the trial were consistent with the double-blind pivotal trial of Qelbree in adult ADHD.



Full results from all the 161 adult patients who enrolled in the trial are now available and are consistent with the interim results. That data will be presented at the American Psychiatric Association Annual Meeting in May of this year.



Finally and importantly, the company received a 2-plus year patent term extension from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office for 1 of the U.S. patents that covers Qelbree. This extends the original expiration date of that patent to the year 2035.



Regarding GOCOVRI, for full year 2024, net sales increased by 9% compared to 2023 and by 15% in the fourth quarter of 2024, reaching $37 million. Earlier this month, the FDA approved ONAPGO, Supernus next growth product. It is the first and only subcutaneous apomorphine infusion device for the treatment of motor fluctuations in adults with advanced Parkinson's disease. We are targeting the launch of ONAPGO in the second quarter of 2025 with a support team of experts, including a nurse education program and access support. ONAPGO fits very well within our portfolio as it utilizes our existing Parkinson's disease sales force and infrastructure.



Switching to our legacy products, the first generic for Oxtellar XR entered the market in early September 2024, resulting in both a year-over-year and sequential quarter-to-quarter decline in net sales of Oxtellar XR in the fourth quarter of 2024. For full year 2024, combined net sales of Trokendi XR and Oxtellar XR were down 22%. In 2025, we expect further erosion in both product sales with combined net sales to be in the range of $65 million to $75 million.



Moving on to our CNS pipeline of novel product candidates. In November 2024, we reported top line results from an open-label Phase 2a study with SPN-817 in patients with treatment-resistant seizures. The study suggested a differentiated profile with strong efficacy in focal seizures at the 3-milligram to 4-milligram twice daily doses. SPN-817 was safe and had acceptable tolerability with two subjects discontinuing because of treatment-related adverse events out of the 26 subjects who entered the maintenance period. Stage B of the Phase 2a study is ongoing and includes the concomitant use of an antiemetic to reduce cholinergic adverse events observed in the study.



The company has initiated a Phase 2b randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study of 3-milligram and 4-milligram twice daily doses of SPN-817, targeting enrollment of approximately 258 adult patients with treatment-resistant focal seizures.



Also, the company completed a pharmacokinetic study of two oral formulations of SPN-443 in healthy adults. Both formulations of SPN-443 showed adequate bioavailability and were well tolerated. SPN-443 is our new stimulant-like product candidate for ADHD and other CNS disorders.



We recently disclosed that the Phase 2b study of SPN-820 in adults with treatment-resistant depression did not demonstrate a statistically significant improvement on the primary and secondary endpoints versus placebo. The safety profile of SPN-820 in this study was consistent with previous clinical trials showing few adverse events. We continue to analyze the data and we will update you when we reach a decision regarding the future steps for the program.



Finally, corporate development will continue to be a top priority looking for strategic opportunities to further strengthen our future growth through additional revenue-generating products or late-stage pipeline product candidates.



With that, I will now turn the call over to Tim.

Thank you, Jack. Good afternoon, everyone.



As I review our fourth quarter and full year 2024 results, please refer to today's press release, and the 10-K was filed earlier today. Total revenue for the fourth quarter of 2024 was $174.2 million compared to $164.3 million in the same quarter last year. Total revenue in the fourth quarter of 2024 was comprised of net product sales of $166.4 million and royalty, licensing, and other revenues of $7.8 million. The increase in net product sales was primarily due to the increase in net product sales of our core products, Qelbree and GOCOVRI.



Excluding net product sales of Trokendi XR and Oxtellar XR, total revenues for the fourth quarter of 2024 increased 29% compared to the same quarter last year. For the fourth quarter of 2024, combined R&D and SG&A expenses were $108.1 million as compared to $104.6 million for the same quarter last year. Operating earnings on a GAAP basis for the fourth quarter of 2024 were $21.4 million as compared to an operating loss of $1 million for the same quarter last year.



Recall, that during the fourth quarter of 2023, we booked a $20.2 million intangible asset impairment charge, reflecting the forthcoming loss of exclusivity of XADAGO in December of 2027. GAAP net earnings were $15.3 million for the fourth quarter of 2024 or $0.27 per diluted share compared to GAAP net earnings of $1.2 million or $0.02 per diluted share in the same quarter last year.



On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes amortization of intangibles, share-based compensation, contingent consideration, impairment charges, and depreciation, adjusted operating earnings for the fourth quarter of 2024 was $48.3 million compared to $47.1 million in the same quarter of last year.



Total revenues for the full year 2024 were $661.8 million compared to $607.5 million in the same period last year. Total revenues were comprised of net product sales of $637.7 million and royalty, licensing, and other revenues of $24.1 million. The 11% increase in net product sales was primarily due to the increase in net product sales of our core products, Qelbree and GOCOVRI. Excluding net product sales of Trokendi XR and Oxtellar XR, total revenues for the full year 2024 increased 25% compared to last year.



Combined R&D and SG&A expenses for the full year 2024 were $430.4 million as compared to $428 million for the same period last year. Operating earnings on a GAAP basis for the full year 2024 were $81.7 million as compared to an operating loss of $5.3 million for the same period last year. The increase in operating earnings reflects the higher revenues and lower operating expenses in 2024. GAAP net earnings were $73.9 million for the full year 2024 or $1.32 per diluted share compared to $1.3 million or $0.02 per diluted share in the same period last year.



On a non-GAAP basis, which again excludes amortization of intangibles, share-based compensation, contingent consideration, impairment charges, and depreciation, adjusted operating earnings were $183.7 million compared to $125.1 million in the same period. This is an approximately 47% increase year-over-year. As of December 31, 2024, the company had approximately $454 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities compared to $271 million as of December 31, 2023. This increase was primarily due to cash generated from operations. It should be noted we have generated approximately $300 million in cash from operations in the past 2 years. Because of that, the company has a strong balance sheet with no debt with significant financial flexibility for potential M&A and other growth opportunities.



Now turning to guidance. For the full year 2025, we expect total revenues to range from $600 million to $630 million, comprised of net product sales and royalty and licensing revenues. Note that total revenue guidance for the full year 2025 assumes approximately $65 million to $75 million of combined net sales of Trokendi XR and Oxtellar XR. For the full year 2025, we expect combined R&D and SG&A expenses to range from $435 million to $460 million. Overall, we expect full-year 2025 operating earnings in the range of $10 million to an operating loss of $15 million.



And finally, we expect non-GAAP operating earnings to range from $105 million to $130 million. Please refer to the earnings press release issued prior to this call that identifies the various ranges of reconciling items between GAAP and non-GAAP.



With that, I will now turn the call back over to the operator for Q&A. Operator.

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Andrew Tsai at Jefferies.

Congrats on the nice quarter. A couple of questions to start. If we backed out other products from your 2025 revenue guidance with reasonable assumptions, is it fair to infer maybe you're thinking Qelbree this year could do maybe somewhere around $265 million to $295 million? Is that a fair range? Or are you thinking something different? And then secondly, what do you think are the key levers to sales growth this year? Is it more TRx? Or is it more price? Or is it both?

Andrew, regarding the range, it is a fair range. We try not to give guidance by product, but you could back into something like this. As far as the key levers for this year, there's certainly continued prescription growth. As we've seen, we've been very pleased with the performance of the product. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, Q4 carried a lot of the momentum from the back-to-school season and set us up in a very nice way to start in a nice place for 2025. So we're certainly looking forward to more prescription growth.



The market grew by 9%. We grew by 25% last year, and we still have a long way to go here. As I mentioned, the market is now at 103 million prescriptions a year. We're only at 767,000 prescriptions in 2024. So we still have a lot of penetration that we can accomplish clearly with the product. And the basics of the product are still very, very solid. What I'm referring to is really satisfaction by patients. The very important segment, for example, adult segment, the patient satisfaction is very high. It's around 80%.



To give you a little bit of reference, it's only 53% for Strattera. And to have a very nice high satisfaction rate for a nonstimulant in the adult population, that's really pretty strong. We all know adults love their stimulants. So for a nonstimulant to have that level of satisfaction. So we're very encouraged by a lot of the metrics behind the product and therefore, looking forward to another hopefully strong year on Qelbree.

Great. And then as we think about your pipeline after SPN-820's TRD data, how does your BD appetite change now, if at all? And can you remind us the latest and greatest on how much firepower you have now?

From a pipeline perspective, I mean, the first thing is just to clarify, 820 is not terminated. Otherwise, we would have said that in the press release. So that remains to be seen, and we'll see what the next steps will be. And certainly, we'll communicate that as far as what decisions we make.

But aside from that, our BD activities will continue to be a top priority at the company. Looking for -- from a priority perspective, first commercial products, if we can bring in more revenue-generating products. And then next priority will be things that are more in the mid-stage to late-stage pipeline assets. And then from a therapeutic perspective, we're agnostic of whether it's psychiatry or urology. We're pretty flexible there.



And we're even open to other therapeutic areas, as I may have mentioned in the past in certain remarks that we've actually participated in certain processes and looking at assets outside CNS as long as the situation involves multiple assets, not just 1 asset in all new therapeutic areas. But if there is some scale, there is multiple assets, we would be interested in also expanding beyond just CNS.



So it is a top priority. And as I -- Tim mentioned – as Tim mentioned earlier, we do have significant flexibility, clearly, given that our balance sheet is fairly clean. We have no debt. We have a strong cash position that we continue to add to. As far as the size per se, it really depends on the situation itself.

I mean you could go pretty big if a certain situation brings in its own cash flows that will help us and will support a leveraging situation. So that in total could range from $500 million to $1 billion, $1.5 billion, I mean, depending on the situation and the cash generation by the target that we're looking at.

Our next question comes from Stacy Ku at TD Cowen.

Congratulations on the progress. First question is on Qelbree. That performance in Q4, can you just walk through the variables driving strong pricing, especially as kind of 2025, just help us understand what you're thinking about gross to net this year? And then a second follow-up on Qelbree. Can you just talk about how the adult launch is progressing? And then second question is on SPN-820. Are you able to kind of give some idea of the timing of your strategic conclusions? Do you plan to make a decision this year? And then for the third question, for the ONAPGO launch, how should we think about the trajectory? What needs to be done to be ready? And are there any sales expectations embedded in 2025 guidance?

Yes. I'll try to take them in the same order. So on Qelbree, we had certainly a very strong quarter in the fourth quarter. As I mentioned, a big portion of that is clearly the prescription growth. So we grew by 11% sequentially. As far as the gross to net, it really -- as related to the pricing portion of that question, it really didn't change much. So the gross to net on Qelbree has been fairly stable now in the last three quarters on the lower side of the range.



So that -- now will it change in '25? Absolutely. I mean, clearly, Q1 is always -- as we always know, in this business, in general, Qelbree or no Qelbree across all the industry, Q1 will be worse from a gross to net perspective because of the increase in the co-pay costs as we improve the benefits to help patients through the deductibles and so forth.



So for the full year of 2025, probably the gross to net is going to be more in the 50% to 55%. That would be my guess at this point. And that's the same range we had talked about that in November of last year when we talked about the gross to net.



Regarding the second question you have on the adult launch, I mean, we're pretty pleased, as I referred earlier, as far as performance of the product with adults, our efforts in the adult segment across male and female patient populations. The product continues to perform really well. We do see more combination type of use in the adult patient population, meaning physicians are adding Qelbree to the existing stimulant that adults are on. And over time, they tend to reduce the stimulant dose and increase the Qelbree dose.



With the ultimate goal, of course, is to take the patients off the stimulant completely. But they try not to do that abruptly from day 1 because stimulant -- adults love the stimulants, and they don't want to have the withdrawal effect from it sometimes as well. So they add Qelbree gradually over time. And because of that, we see the combination use within the adult population, somewhere around the 35% to 40% of the prescriptions, we believe, are combination use with the stimulants. Not as much in the pediatric side. On the pediatric side, we think that's more in the 15% to 20% is combination use.



So we're still very encouraged by adult, and we'll continue to push forward because the need is tremendous out there. And we are strong believers that people really don't have to be on controlled substances. I mean if you have a nonstimulant that really works, whether you're an adult or a child, there is no reason for you to get on a stimulant from day 1. You could always get on a stimulant later on if your nonstimulant doesn't work.



But with Qelbree, what we've seen time after time and now the product has been on the market for 3.5 years or close to 4 years, we see that the product really works within a week or two and works pretty well across the subscales and people are pretty happy, as I mentioned, satisfaction in the adult population is fairly strong, around 80%. So we're very optimistic about the potential in adults, especially given the importance of that segment in the marketplace…

If I could just quickly follow up, what share are you at for the adult segment right now in ADHD for Qelbree? What's the split?

Share of Qelbree of the total ADHD market, we're closing in…

Yes. So sorry, I apologize, the split, which is of the Qelbree launches, what -- of the Qelbree prescriptions, what percentage is adult right now for 2024?

It bounces in the 30% to 32%. It bounces around quarter or depending on the seasonality. So it's basically the reverse of how the market splits. So if you remember, the market is around 33% pediatric and 67% adult. So we still have a lot of room where we can grow in the adult segment.

Understood. I apologize. And now for SPN-820 and timing?

Yes, sure. So moving on SPN-820, regarding the timing of what the next steps would be, we sure hope to do that in the next couple of months. I don't know, could we do it earlier? We'll see. But certainly, it wouldn't be this year as related to your question, and we'll do it as early as we can.

We do think potentially, we know what could be behind the results. We have looked at across studies. We looked at different sub analyses, patient populations, different things. We couldn't see anything really that sticks out that have resulted with the result that we issued. But theoretically, there is a good reason to believe that potentially the dosing regimen is what's behind the different results that we got in the placebo-controlled study versus the open-label study.



So we will be digging deeper into that aspect of it and see from a biologic perspective, what the rationale is.



There is a theory there -- out there that maybe you don't need to hit the mTORC1 system frequently every single day. And actually, intermittent dosing is needed or required for the system to function very well and to regulate depressive symptoms. And therefore, intermittent dosing is probably more suitable than frequent every single day type of dosing, which was the case in the Phase 2b study.



So much more to be investigated at this point. We'll continue to analyze the data, and we'll come back and communicate that as soon as possible.



And then I believe the last question was regarding on ONAPGO. I if I answered -- heard it right?

Yes, that's correct.

Yes. So... Could you go ahead and repeat the question, if you don't mind?

Yes. So just help us understand the trajectory of the launch, what needs to be done to be ready and if there are any sales expectations embedded in the guidance?

Yes, the trajectory of the launch, I mean, we've said all along, it will probably be a slow build. Now however, having said that, we also know that a lot of KOLs have been waiting for this product, and we may -- we may have a bolus of patients who may come in at the beginning and then it will start going back to a more normal slower rate. So that -- all that remains to be seen. That is a possibility out there, but it remains to be seen. So as far as our guidance, to be even more specific, I mean, we don't have really a lot in the guidance. For ONAPGO, it's really single-digit number, mid- to a little bit high single digits. So it's not really much as far as this year's guidance.

Our next question comes from Annabel Samimy at Stifel.

This is Jack on for Annabel. So now that you have ONAPGO approved with the label specifically for severe patients, do you have a better sense of what your market will be? And who might the low-hanging fruit be for an apomorphine pump versus a levodopa/carbidopa pump? And could you remind us again how all of your PD products now fit together? Do you expect the pump to partially cannibalize the opportunity for APOKYN at all? And where does GOCOVRI fit in with the rest?

The label for ONAPGO says advanced Parkinson's disease. And as you would probably expect, I mean, the definition of advanced by a lot of KOLs might vary between what they consider advanced. For some KOLs, advanced maybe could mean that I have a patient been diagnosed now 10 years ago. They tried a lot of agents out there, a lot of the oral adjunctive therapy with levodopa, carbidopa, and they're getting to a point where maybe they need deep brain stimulation or some other invasive surgery product and so forth. And that could be a candidate and would be a candidate for ONAPGO.



Another KOL might say, you know what, I've had a patient who's only been diagnosed 3 or 4 years ago, but really struggling with all the oral agents out there, and therefore, I might want to try the pump. So all this remains to be seen. Clearly, everything we do promotional and everything will be centered around the advanced patients.



And as far as the interaction or the overlap, if you want to say, between ONAPGO and potentially APOKYN, just to clarify, ONAPGO is really providing you with all-day continuous infusion of apomorphine and it is for all-day control. However, APOKYN is more for acute episodes, single injection for acute episodes. So there is a very distinct positioning clearly and uses for these 2 products.



Now we have said in the past that potentially there might be some overlap or some cannibalization of APOKYN. In case you have patients, for example, who might be taking multiple injections of APOKYN during a certain day, they may choose to try the pump. I mean that is a possibility. But clearly, from our perspective, the 2 products are separate.



APOKYN indication is for acute treatment, single injection. Obviously, the pump is more for an all-day control with a continuous infusion of apomorphine. And generally speaking, apomorphine is really a great drug, and it really differentiates significantly from, first of all, the oral dopamine agonist. It is very much like dopamine. It acts like dopamine. It actually have one of the best receptor binding profile and affinity to all the D1 through D5 receptors. Unlike some of the oral dopamine agonists, they don't have affinity to the D1 family. So apomorphine actually is very much like dopamine.



And also when it gets through the system, it doesn't need to be converted to dopamine. So it acts directly on the D1, D2 family receptors. So it's a great drug, and it really differentiates versus even levodopa itself because levodopa, even after it gets absorbed, it has to be converted to dopamine where apomorphine actually doesn't need to be – to have that conversion. And therefore, you don't need the nuance to convert apomorphine into dopamine so that it can get to the postsynaptic neuron.



So all in all, we think the drug will differentiate very well, and there will be a great need for ONAPGO. It has a great clinical profile as well as tolerability. People ask me the question, how does it compare to the other pumps that got approved? Clearly, people -- I will let people read the labels and make their own decision as to how they compare.

Our next question comes from David Amsellem at Piper Sandler.

Just a couple for me. So first, on ADHD and Qelbree specifically. How are you thinking about the competitive landscape to the extent that other nonstimulants enter the market? We're going to get a data readout for Solriamfetol in adult patients, for instance, in the not-too-distant future. So how are you thinking about competitive landscape, not just in terms of volumes, but how that might impact the payer landscape and your gross to nets going forward? So that's number one. And then number two, sorry if I missed this, but have you announced pricing for ONAPGO? And if you haven't, can you tell us where you think it could be just as a point of reference relative to VYALEV, AbbVie's VYALEV?

Regarding ADHD and the competitive landscape, it's really very hard for us to make any comments at this point until we see the labels or even first before labels, the data from these products. So we really don't have and haven't seen any Phase 3 data. So that remains to be seen as far as whether these products will be competitive actually versus Qelbree and so forth.



So that remains to be seen on both products, the 2 products that are out there and currently in development. And whether that will impact the payer landscape or not, we tend to be very disciplined, as you guys know, when it comes to payers. So we will do what we believe is right for Qelbree. We know that Qelbree brings in an incredible differentiation in the marketplace. We have a significant head start clearly in the nonstimulant and it has been the first novel nonstimulant in decades introduced in this category. And we've been able to have a very good payer strategy across board. And we're very pleased with the coverage that the product has today and in the foreseeable future.



Finally, on the price of ONAPGO, it is public at this point. I mean we priced it within a very -- a good range, clearly, that is competitive in the marketplace. That's all I can say on that.

Our next question comes from Kristen Kluska at Cantor Fitzgerald.

Congrats on a great quarter. Given you've been following the ADHD patients for a while, can you comment on roughly what percent of them do you believe have comorbidities that are potentially on 2-plus drugs to address both the ADHD and other conditions? And how you're now thinking about penetrating more into that space now that the FDA has acknowledged this in your label, although I know you've been believing in this and talking about the data and have had anecdotes from physicians in the past.

Yes. ADHD is very well known and to have significant comorbidities across board. A lot of it are mood disorders such as depression, anxiety, even bipolar and so forth. As far as the percentages, they do range from -- we've seen numbers from the -- as many as 40% to even 60% of ADHD patients that have a lot of these comorbidities. They do tend to be an issue for a lot of patients out there because actually stimulants are kind of contraindicated for a lot of these mood disorders because they tend to exacerbate these issues. And that's why a lot of the adults or some of the adults are on nonstimulants for that reason.



We are certainly, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks -- we're certainly pleased with the fact that it is now acknowledged that viloxazine is very different than atomoxetine. It does have a very unique mechanism of action. It is a multimodal pharmacodynamic [indiscernible] activity that happens with viloxazine, specifically on the serotonin. And that's really what has separated the molecule for actually years or decades from Strattera that had failed actually in clinical trials in treating certain mood disorders.



Now that is something we cannot promote. We will not promote and we will not talk about any other indications for Qelbree other than what's on the label clearly. But it was a very important scientific information that physicians have been looking for since actually the day we've been developing Qelbree because they have seen certain things in the clinical studies. And they would like to know clearly around the serotonin because they do use other products that also have serotonin activity. And we need to inform physicians about that because they worry about serotonin syndrome and all kind of things from a safety perspective.



So we're very pleased to see that change in the label to better inform physicians on the activity of the drug in general. And clearly, we are very also encouraged by the open-label study that I talked about, which is in ADHD and comorbid disorders, mood disorders. So we encourage folks to look at the publication of the poster at the conference in May.

And then on the BD front, can you talk about -- I know you had some comments on it before, but just therapeutic areas and spaces that you think are really promising and you can kind of leverage some of your in-house capabilities that you've been working on in the past?

Yes. I mean the -- we look for areas that are -- I mean, they don't have to be necessarily adjacent to CNS or synergistic with CNS. They could be on their own as long as their situation has some scale to it. So we won't be as interested in something completely new with only 1 product because then it puts more pressure to try to look and build around that 1 product and find other products or product candidates, pipeline assets that could help you build that scale in this new therapeutic area.



So preference would be if we were to enter a new area, hopefully, from day 1, we could find something that could be a multi-asset situation, whether it's commercial pipeline, a mix of both, that will allow us to bring in the scale and the efficiency in the operation from R&D all the way into commercial execution. So that's how we think about it. And it doesn't really matter whether I'm just going to throw out examples. It doesn't mean that's what we're looking at, but whether it's dermatology, ophthalmology, urology, any of these specialty areas where we can be very efficient and effective with a reasonable small sales force effort behind it.



In addition to that, we have a really good infrastructure to deal with the rare disease and orphan diseases. We are very well set up, especially, for example, in the Parkinson's area, where we have a very strong infrastructure to support rare or orphan diseases. So those would be also areas that we would be interested in.

I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Jack for closing remarks.

Thank you. In concluding our call this afternoon, we thank you for joining us to learn about our strong operating performance in the fourth quarter and full year 2024. The company has executed well through a multiyear transition and the loss of exclusivity on 2 of its legacy products.



Excluding our legacy products, Trokendi XR and Oxtellar XR, we continue to deliver robust double-digit growth in revenues. The company continues to generate also strong cash flows behind the strength of its portfolio, particularly its core products and through the efficiency of its operations. As a result, and as we mentioned earlier, we finished the year in a position of financial strength with $454 million of cash on the balance sheet and no debt. We believe we are well positioned for continued growth beyond the current transition and our focus on several key areas. First, driving growth and generating strong cash flow from our core products, particularly Qelbree, allowing us to continue our investments in our pipeline. Second, the launch of ONAPGO in the second quarter of this year; and third, advancing our innovative R&D portfolio of differentiated first-in-class molecules. Finally, corporate development will continue to be a top priority to augment our growth through external opportunities.



Thanks again for joining us this afternoon. We look forward to updating you on our next call.

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.