Masimo Corp

NASDAQ:MASI

Earnings Call Transcript 2021-Q4

[Operator]

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Masimo’s Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. The company's press release is available at www.masimo.com. At this time, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. And now I’m pleased to introduce Mr. Eli Kammerman, Masimo’s Vice President of Business Development and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

[Eli Kammerman]

Thank you, and hello, everybody. Joining me today are Chairman and CEO, Joe Kiani; and Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Micah Young. This call will contain forward-looking statements, which reflect management's current judgment, including certain of our expectations regarding fiscal year 2022 financial performance. However, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Risk factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our projections and forecasts are discussed in detail in our periodic filings with the SEC. You will find these in the Investor Relations section of our website. Also, this call will include a discussion of certain financial measures that are not calculated in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP. We generally refer to these as non-GAAP financial measures. In addition to GAAP results, these non-GAAP financial measures are intended to provide additional information to enable investors to assess the company's operating results in the same way management assesses such results. Management uses non-GAAP measures to budget, evaluate and measure the company's performance and sees these results as an indicator of the company's ongoing business performance. The company believes that these non-GAAP financial measures increase transparency and better reflect the underlying financial performance of the business. Reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included within the earnings release and supplementary financial information on our website. Investors should consider all of our statements today, together with our reports filed with the SEC, including our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q in order to make informed investment decisions. In addition to the earnings release issued today, we have posted a quarterly earnings presentation within the Investor Relations section of our website to supplement the content we will be covering this afternoon. I'll now pass the call to Joe Kiani.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you, Eli. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us for Masimo's fourth quarter and 2021 year-end earnings call. While 2021 was a very challenging year in global health care and for millions of patients. We were able to help ease the burden on hospitals their caregivers and patients by providing them with our breakthrough technologies. As some hospitals were overwhelmed with COVID patient admissions, our monitoring products made a real difference in patient care. Our team demonstrated our commitment to our mission and guiding principles by putting our customers and patients priorities first. The long duration of the COVID pandemic drove demand for monitoring equipment and tools to enhance the productivity of overburdened health care workers. We manufactured and installed record numbers of our innovative products last year despite supply chain challenges, building on our reputation for responsiveness and dedication to our customers. As a result, our installed base grew by 7%, while our revenues for fiscal year 2021 grew by 8% against the 22% revenue growth in the prior year. We achieved revenues of $1.239 billion in 2021 as more customers than ever used and switched to Masimo products, acknowledging our clinically superior performance and value for optimizing care and improving outcomes. During 2021, we expanded our portfolio of products with a combination of internally developed and acquired technologies that enable caregivers to rapidly capture the most accurate patient data regardless of the setting. We broadened sales and marketing efforts for the softFlow non-invasive ventilation system for patients with respiratory distress and extended the reach of the LiDCO cardiac output and hemodynamic monitoring products used in surgery. Our 2021 results exceeded expectations and have positioned us for a year of double-digit constant currency revenue growth in 2022. I'll discuss more later in the call, including further details on our pending acquisition, which we announced with our earnings press release. Now I'll ask Micah to review our fourth quarter and full year results in more detail and provide you with an overview of our 2022 financial guidance.

[Micah Young]

Thank you, Joe, and good afternoon, everyone. Our fourth quarter results were well above expectations as we once again shipped a record volume of single-patient use sensors while our driver shipments once again exceeded our pre-COVID run rate by more than 20%. Increased demand for patient monitoring in hospitals has been durable as these results demonstrate. We had a record-breaking fourth quarter of securing new customer contracts, resulting in another record contracting year for Massimo. In fact, we converted a major U.S. hospital system to Masimo technologies in the fourth quarter. During the quarter, we shipped 76,000 technology boards and instruments, which was the highest quarterly figure for 2021 and points to continued demand for our technology. We have shipped approximately 2.3 million technology boards and instruments over the last 10 years. And as of the end of the fourth quarter, we estimate that our installed base has grown 7% versus our installed base at the end of the fourth quarter of 2020. This is a notable increase considering the surge in our installed base a year ago. In fact, we estimate that our installed base has grown 25% over the past two years from the fourth quarter of 2019 to the fourth quarter of 2021. For the fourth quarter of 2021, we reported product revenue of $328 million, representing growth of 11% on a reported basis and 11.5% on a constant currency basis. If you recall, our fourth quarter 2020 results included one additional week of revenue, which added roughly three percentage points to our growth rate for the prior year period. Regardless of the extra week in the fourth quarter of 2020, our revenue has increased 32% over the past two years from the fourth quarter of 2019 to the fourth quarter of 2021. Our worldwide sales of single-patient use sensors were up 15% versus the prior year period, driven by strong demand for our set sensors. In line with typical seasonality, our sensor revenues increased by 4% sequentially versus the third quarter of 2021. For the fourth quarter of 2021, our worldwide sales of technology boards and instruments were down 3% versus the prior year period due to the COVID-related spike in purchases in 2020. However, our worldwide sales of technology boards and instruments increased 5% sequentially versus the third quarter of 2021. Moving down the P&L. Our non-GAAP gross margin for the fourth quarter increased 240 basis points to 65.9% compared to 63.5% in the prior year period. If you recall, in the fourth quarter of 2020, we experienced significant COVID-related inefficiencies, which suppressed our gross margin. Our non-GAAP selling, general and administrative expenses as a percentage of revenue increased 30 basis points to 30% compared to 29.7% in the prior year quarter. And our non-GAAP research and development expenses as a percentage of revenue decreased 50 basis points to 10.2% compared to 10.7% in the same quarter last year. For the fourth quarter, our non-GAAP operating profit was $84.2 million or an operating margin of 25.7%. In comparison, fourth quarter 2020 non-GAAP operating profit was $68.1 million or an operating margin of 23.1%. This reflects non-GAAP operating profit dollar growth of 24% over the prior year period, driven by strong revenue performance and operating margin expansion of 260 basis points over the prior year quarter. Moving further down the P&L. Our non-GAAP tax rate was 16.9%, which came in below the 22% tax rate that was implied in our last guidance. This was primarily due to higher-than-usual R&D tax credits in combination with a favorable geographic mix. And our weighted average shares outstanding for the quarter was $57.8 million. For the fourth quarter, our non-GAAP net income was $70.1 million or $1.21 per diluted share. In comparison, fourth quarter 2020 non-GAAP net income was $57.3 million or $0.98 per diluted share. This reflects non-GAAP EPS growth of 23% over the prior year quarter. Turning to our GAAP results. GAAP net income for the fourth quarter of 2021 was $68.3 million or $1.18 per diluted share. In comparison, Fourth quarter 2020 GAAP net income was $70.7 million or $1.21 per diluted share. Included in our GAAP earnings for the quarter was $4.4 million of excess tax benefits from stock-based compensation compared to $10 million of excess tax benefits in the prior year period. Overall, for the fourth quarter, we delivered strong performance across the business that exceeded expectations with double-digit revenue growth operating profit dollar growth of 24% and EPS growth of 23%. And our driver shipments once again exceeded our pre-overrun rate by more than 20% even after the large surge in driver shipments we experienced in 2020. Looking back, 2021 was another record year for Masimo in terms of winning new customers. Despite the difficult year-over-year comparisons, we delivered revenue growth of 8%, operating profit dollar growth of 12% and EPS growth of 11% on a non-GAAP basis. Over the past two years, from fiscal year 2019 to fiscal year 2021, we have increased our revenues by 32%, operating profit dollars by 31% and EPS by 24% on a non-GAAP basis. Over the same two-year period, our installed base of technology boards and instruments has increased by 25%. The number of connected beds via Patient SafetyNet and Iris Gateway has grown by more than 50%, and our installed base for our Root connectivity platform has more than doubled. Now I'd like to go into more detail on the full year 2022 financial guidance that we outlined in our press release last month. It is important to note that this guidance does not reflect the impact of our pending acquisition which Joe will discuss in more detail later in the call. For 2022, we are projecting product revenues of $1.350 billion which reflects year-over-year growth of approximately 9% on a reported basis and 10% on a constant currency basis. Included in our product revenue guidance is $7 million of year-over-year currency headwinds. Our non-GAAP gross margin guidance is 66.5%, which represents a 70 basis point increase over our 2021 results. And our non-GAAP operating expense guidance is 41.7% of revenue, which reflects a 30 basis point decrease over the prior year period. Our guidance for non-GAAP operating profit margin is 24.8%, which reflects a 100 basis point improvement over the prior year period. Based on these assumptions, our non-GAAP operating profit dollars are expected to grow 14% to reach $335 million in 2022, which reflects strong operating leverage and profit dollar growth that is 1.5x our revenue growth rate. Moving further down the P&L, our non-GAAP non-operating income, which is primarily comprised of interest income, is expected to be a very nominal amount in 2022. We are also projecting a non-GAAP tax rate of 24% and weighted average shares outstanding of $58.8 million. Based on these assumptions, we are projecting non-GAAP EPS of $4.34. And from a GAAP perspective, we are projecting a GAAP tax rate of 19.4% and GAAP earnings per share of $4.27 for the year. For additional details on our full year 2022 financial guidance for GAAP and non-GAAP earnings per share, please refer to today's earnings release and supplemental financial information within the Investor Relations section of our website at masimo.com. To conclude, our performance last year has built a strong foundation for 2022 and beyond. We delivered another record year in terms of – in 2021 in terms of winning new customers, which has expanded our potential for future business across our entire portfolio and sets the foundation for a strong recurring revenue stream in the years ahead. As we introduce products into new markets this year and beyond, we can play an important role in improving patient outcomes and reducing the cost of care. We are entering 2022 with a positive outlook for revenue growth and profitability. Our guidance reflects our confidence for driving double-digit organic growth for both revenue and operating profit operating profits as we remain steadfast in our commitment to delivering on our long-range financial goals. With that, I will turn the call back to Joe.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you, Micah. There's no question that 2021 provided us with an opportunity to shine by contributing to solutions for the multiple challenges related to the pandemic. As the press from COVID now start to diminish, we're all well positioned to build on the progress we achieved in the last two years from winning the trust of more customers. This has led to a record amount of new customer businesses including Providence, a 50-plus hospital system with 25,000 physicians, a total of 120,000 caregivers serving 25 million patient visits a year. This is due to increase our ability to make even a bigger positive difference. We feel that the end of the pandemic is in sight. Our observations in the field reveal that hospitals are becoming more optimistic about a return to normal conditions. We should benefit from the rebound in surgical procedures because our solutions include a variety of products used in the surgery that are positioned for growth in 2022 and beyond. These products include rainbow, SedLine, O3, NomoLine, and LiDCO. Our ability to accurately measure hemoglobin levels with rainbow and cardiac output with LiDCO in combination with SET Pulse Oximetry and O3 organ Oximetry provides clinicians with a valuable means of assessing oxygen delivery to vital organs. Knowing oxygen delivery levels in real-time can optimize intraoperative blood transfusions and help improve outcomes. Masimo has evolving from a company with breakthrough noninvasive monitoring technologies for hospitals into a company that can provide breakthrough monitoring capabilities in any setting, fulfilling our mission of taking noninvasive monitoring to new sites and applications. From the launch of iSpO2 over a decade ago, we have implemented a major strategic initiative to leverage our clinically superior technologies into wearable devices for deployment in the home setting. Our home strategy is coming to fruition with significant new products and features that will contribute to our success in this emerging field, including the recent announcement of telehealth features with Masimo SafetyNet and the Masimo Watch. Last week, we announced a significant expansion of the capabilities of Masimo SafetyNet to include secure video conferencing to enable a comprehensive telehealth solution. With this new capability, we can provide patients with a better hospital at home experience as well as virtual doctor visits from their home. Masimo station now allows clinicians and hospitals to schedule and conduct multiway audio and video-based virtual appointments with at-home patients through the Masimo SafetyNet smartphone app while being able to view continuous and spot check vital signs and other physiological data. We see telehealth and telemonitoring as areas where we can deploy our differentiated clinically superior technologies to obtain the most accurate patient data to drive optimal outcomes in patient management. Complementing these technologies with software and hardware that facilitates easy interactions between patients and health care professionals is critical. Data is useful only when it’s true and readily available to experts that can interpret it. Masimo SafetyNet can become a premier telehealth solution by integrating reliable telemonitoring with telehealth to provide superior patient experience that is fast, reliable and easy to use. We’ve developed a full suite of products for enabling effective telemedicine the Masimo SafetyNet app is the easiest way for patients to connect with their doctors and care team without having to download additional apps or send in their physiological measurements separately. Our devices from home, monitoring today include the Tetherless Radius PPG and Radius T sensors, which can collect oxygen saturation, pulse rate, respiration rate, temperature and other data. Our newest offering in our telehealth product suite is the Masimo Watch. The W1 wearable monitor, which we recently debuted at the ERIC Health Conference and is expected to be released worldwide in the second quarter this year. The W1 is a versatile product that uses Masimo SET technology to obtain oxygen saturation, pulse rate and respiration rate on the risk on appreciably. In addition, we have added capabilities for measuring steps, detecting falls and capturing ECG signals and arrhythmias. Today, we announced our intent to acquire Sound United. A company with a premium consumer technology platform and iconic universally recognized brands like Bowers & Wilkins, Denon, Marantz and Polk Audio as well as an integrated wireless software platform, HEOS, connecting devices and networks in the home. As important, Sound United has an excellent team of leaders, engineers, manufacturing and supply chain experts and highest ability consumer electronics. The transaction is expected to close near midyear and is subject to customary closing conditions. We expect this acquisition to be immediately accretive and to support our long-range revenue growth target of 8% to 10%. The Sound United transaction aligns with Masimo’s priorities, objective and vision by advancing our strategy of enabling connected monitoring across both the hospital and home. We see significant opportunities to cross leverage technologies, bringing Masimo’s clinically superior solutions into the home and on the go as well as bringing Sound United’s premium technologies into hospitals to advance our hospital automation connectivity and cloud-based technologies. The technology and expertise with Sound United will serve us well as we aim to augment our telehealth and telemedicine strategy. Their well-established reputation and presence in the home can be leveraged by Masimo to accelerate our success in gaining adoption of integrated home-based telemedicine solutions, first with the Masimo Watch W1. In addition, Sound United unlocks access to large, well-established consumer channels of offering us immediate scale with leading retail establishments like Best Buy in the U.S. and Euronics in Europe. Our portfolio of products for consumer health and wellness is expanding as we launch more wearable technologies into the market. We intend to build on the success of products such as Masimo Sleep, Radius T and MightySat with forthcoming introduction of some exciting new technologies. Our go-to-market strategy is highly differentiated and bringing clinically superior technologies to consumers using our clinical and signal processing expertise to enable better health and wellness decisions at home and on the go. The potential for Masimo technologies to be integrated into wearables and connected consumer devices is a key driver of our announcement today. The strategic expansion of Masimo in the hospital and into the home has been underway for years, as we develop many innovations that broaden the use cases and addressable markets for our technology. We’ve added hospital automation and connectivity solutions, and we’re now introducing exciting new products for telehealth, telemonitoring and consumer health and wellness. These new opportunities outside the hospital represent very large and growing addressable markets that far exceed the size of the traditional market that we serve today. We hope to succeed in these new markets by delivering superior technologies that have proven success in the hospital setting. In closing, Masimo is well positioned for growth in 2022 and beyond with a steadily increasing installed base and a team focused on improving patient care. We’re looking forward to a post-COVID normalization that will facilitate broader use of our products across multiple settings. This year should be a very productive one for Masimo as our customer interactions intensify, and we expand our addressable markets. We remain committed to our mission to improve patient outcomes and reduce the cost of care and taking noninvasive monitoring to new sites and applications. With that, we’ll open the call for questions. Operator?

[Operator]

Thank you very much, Mr. Kiani. [Operator Instructions] With that, we’ll take our first question this afternoon from Matt Taylor with UBS.

[Matt Taylor, UBS]

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. So I’d love to hear more about the opportunity here for Masimo with the acquisition. Maybe you could give us a sense for some of your vision about how you’ll integrate Masimo technology with these brands and how quickly that could evolve to take more of your hospital technology into the home.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Sure. Thank you. I’m going to give you, I think, a fraction of what we’re planning because of competitive reasons. But I think you’ll see even the fraction of what we’re discussing is going to be significant. First of all, I want to tell you, since I was a kid, I’ve been an enthusiast of audio file equipment and the engineering that is done to create these incredible products that can not only replicate recorded music, but do it in a way without distortion with incredible fidelity. And the companies that are part of Sound United are the best of the best. And what a fantastic thing, and we’re going to hopefully do things to help them become even better, even though Denon is a 100-year brand, marantz a 50-year brand and so forth, Bowers & Wilkins and Polk an English and a U.S. company with the first two Japanese companies that have just done a remarkable job. But they’ve got things like HEOS, which we really like in the connectivity side. We also see their incredible team and the way they develop the channels in the past 15 years, led by Kevin Duffy as a big relief maybe and an opportunity that we see for the launch of W1 and other products that are coming. We have expanded significant resources for many years to get to this place from a technological perspective. And we believe this team will help us maximize the potential for W1 and other products that are going to follow. Secondly, maybe as I’m getting older, my hearing is getting worse, but there’s an opportunity with the Air Buds and the new regulations in the United States regarding hearing aids to really do some cool things in both listening to music and having communication to improving the hearing and experiences of many, many people. And we see that as another large opportunity that we will now better be able to serve. These are projects we’ve been working on internally. But now with Sound United, we can hopefully accelerate them and reach a broader audience more rapidly.

[Matt Taylor, UBS]

And maybe I could just ask a follow-up on the financials that you gave on here. I guess, could you just talk about how is immediately accretive? And any longer-term history that you can give us with the growth rate, why you’re confident in this high single-digit growth longer-term?

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

I’m going to – Micah.

[Micah Young]

Yes, absolutely. Yes. So Matt, Sound United grew double digits in 2021, and that exceeded historical growth rates. Going forward, we expect a long-term growth rate of high single digits. And we’ll provide more update on the 2022 outlook and on into next year as we think about going forward, once we close the deal and hopefully, we’ll have an Investor Day around that time that we closed the deal to really talk about the markets in a bigger way and what we’re doing to bring them into the hospital and what we’re doing to bring us more into the home with their efforts as well. So I think there’s a lot of synergies with this deal. And we’re excited what we can do with our clinically superior solutions as we go into the home and even on the go with Sound United. And also just their premium technologies are very valuable for things that we want to do in the hospital and as we look to advance our hospital automation connectivity and cloud-based technology.

[Matt Taylor, UBS]

Thank you, Micah.

[Operator]

Thank you. We go next now to Rick Wise with Stifel.

[Rick Wise, Stifel]

Good afternoon, everybody. Joe, one question for you to start. Look, I’m not a consumer analyst. I’ve had many products in my home with these brand names, so I know it well. But I’m just – and I guess I’m confident – very confident, highly confident that you wouldn’t have done this transaction unless you had truly visionary ideas and thoughts about how it’s going to contribute to Masimo over time. Maybe because I’m not as smart, maybe you can help me better understand how do we think about this translating into revenue not in five or 10 years, but in the next couple of years, how is this all going to unfold that we’re going to see what it – I mean, a series of products that combine Masimo technology and this Sound United technology. Is that going to start kicking in once the deal is closed quickly or it’s going to take several years to put all this together? I’m just not sure how I’m going to explain to somebody exactly what this means to sales growth and margins and the outlook for Masimo for the next few years.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you, Rick. First of all, you’re one of the smartest guys I know. But we’re going to stretch our mind and we’re going to stretch yours. I think we’re going to put you not just in health care but consumer health care. At the Analyst Day that we intend to have post closing, we’re going to lay out some of the immediate product lines and the revenues we anticipate. What I can tell you is that this strategy has been percolating for several years of requiring something like Sound United to help us with the strategy they’ve been working on for over a decade. So look, I am really excited about this. And I wish I could share with you our vision of where we’re going with this. But as you can imagine, our competitors like to know that, too. And I don’t want to mess up the future by talking about at the head of time. And I always criticize the tech talkers – we’re doers, we’re not tech talkers. So why don’t you let us deliver and then you’ll see it, but it won’t take 10 years. You’re going to see some of the benefits pretty quickly after the merger is complete. And again, Micah will keep you guys abreast of the best day, but we’re going to have an Analyst Day, and I hope you can come out and meet some of the folks from Sound United to see some of the things we’re planning to do together.

[Rick Wise, Stifel]

Okay. I total – I get it. I equally await that moment. Turning to a couple of more mundane things. Micah, gosh, I have to say I’m impressed with the gross margin guidance, the operating margin guidance. And I might have feared in my heart of hearts that given supply chain challenges, chip shortages and whatnot, that the outlook might be more challenged. Help us think through that and how are you doing it?

[Micah Young]

Yes, great question, Rick. Just like any company right now, I mean, everybody is facing supply chain challenges. The team has done a great job of navigating through those, not to say they don't still exist and that we will navigate through some more in the future. But our operations team has done a great job. We've continued to see some pressure from some pricing pressure. We've had some higher freight costs that have come through the numbers this past year. And like I mentioned before, a lot of those costs really were magnified during the pandemic and probably set us back a couple of years on our gross margins initially. And we said that we're assuming those in our guidance as we're looking forward. So we've incorporated that to the best of our ability as we move forward, and we feel very good as we move into this year and that's why we're reconfirming our guidance and expectations and outlook, and it's a very strong outlook going forward. And we're coming off another record-breaking fourth quarter in terms of winning new customers, which has really kind of fueled that confidence for us as we're thinking about the outlook going forward. So that's how I look at it right now, Rick. And we're going to do everything we can to continue to navigate some of those choppy waters that every company is facing right now.

[Rick Wise, Stifel]

Great. And just one last one, if I could ask one more. You talked, I think, Micah, about the post-COVID recovery should be positive, should be positive for Masimo. Your field check-is positive. That all sounds great. Help us understand Part A, what you dialed in, in terms of recovery assumptions into your guidance. And two, how specifically, how do we think about that return to more normal or normal active? How do we think about the potential impact on top line growth? Thanks so much.

[Micah Young]

Yes, absolutely. Rick, I mean, you know me by now working with me in several years now. So I'm very thoughtful, prudent about how we guide. We want to be confident in our guidance. And we are kind of modeling out a steady return again through the next few months. And then we believe that we'll start to see a pickup in volumes as we move throughout the year. So we still believe volumes were probably down. Census volumes are probably still around 80% to 90% range as we move throughout the fourth quarter and still suppressed. So we're feeling like things are going to start to open back up more, and we've incorporated some of that in our guidance.

[Rick Wise, Stifel]

Thank you very much.

[Operator]

Thank you. And next, we'll go to Mr. Mike Matson with Needham & Company.

[Mike Matson, Needham & Company]

Thanks for taking my question. Yes. I guess just a few on the acquisitions. Can you maybe tell us what Sound United’s gross margin and operating margins are roughly? It looks like the EBITDA margin is up 14%, I think.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, Mike. So if you look at it – yes, you're right. We'll update you more on the margin profile, but you're right on the EBITDA margin. So if you look our EBITDA dollars. So it's about $125 million of EBITDA. And of course, top line is around $900 million in terms of revenue. So you're doing the math right. Its right around 14% is what they delivered based on our estimates for 2021 calendar year. But we'll disclose more as we get closer to the close. And of course, as we get closer to Investor Day and really demonstrate, how it’s all come together in terms of the combined company.

[Micah Young]

And I will one of them to bring the revenue with promise of the acquisition what brings out the revenues in the product of the both businesses.

[Mike Matson, Needham & Company]

Okay. But I mean, is it safe to assume that at least the gross margin is lower than Masimo, I mean, just given the nature of the consumer products.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I think if you went out there and looked at some of the peers to the company, I mean, you would see it probably closer, maybe a little – slightly lower than even our capital sales margin. So you're probably in the ballpark, but I'd say you look at some of the peer companies that are out there.

[Mike Matson, Needham & Company]

Okay. And then is there any way you can give us any sense of cost synergies you're expecting with this deal.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Sorry, I didn't...

[Micah Young]

No, we aren’t expecting any cost synergies. We want that entire team. We hope we can keep the entire team. So no, not that.

[Mike Matson, Needham & Company]

Okay. And then just finally, from a manufacturing perspective, can you maybe talk about any opportunities there to leverage your purchasing and manufacturing facilities and things like that, certainly since all electronic products.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, I think you know that's a really mature and well-run area, and we do hope from their manufacturing supply chain team, there will be things we can learn, there will be things we can add. And the great thing is go add few more R&D centers as well as at least two or three more manufacturing sites for us, which will allow us to have a more global reach into the best people, we can hopefully get.

[Mike Matson, Needham & Company]

Okay. Got it.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] And next, we'll go next now to Mr. Jason Bednar with Piper Sandler.

[Jason Bednar, Piper Sandler]

Thanks, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Guys a lot of different things I am going to ask here you, so I will try and transact you in here. On Sound United, I think just help me out with the few items in this deal. Which is a big deal for you, you’re putting your stack in the ground and bringing in in-house to consumer technology company, may be what made Sound United the right asset for Masimo to acquire versus the others targets out there? And your partnerships that you maybe not able form with other technology companies? How right ownership here with the right approach, there seems like the main joint technology here is the connectivity on your reference maybe why not simply license that part of the technology from Sound United?

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Well, we did look at many different consumer technology companies. We like Sound United the most for several reasons. One, it's management team. Two, the distribution channel, that is essential to what we are doing as an important product for us which is the Masimo Watch. Three, it’s the brand and the quality of those brands and the durability of those brands. So this is not a company – a product that are here today going tomorrow. So we – not a critical, but great. That their management team are based on call-back. So they are just 30-minutes, 40-minutes from here. So that have made them an ideal company for us to get to the finish line. And then a quick short on partnership, I would tell you we really want to control the strategy. We will go on the things we have in mind to get leaked up there and we need the undivided attention of this team. When we – we are developing the rainbow, there were two companies that has the semiconductor, LED and imported detectors that we needed for rainbow. And we looked hard to get exactly what we needed. So we acquired a company called, Spire Semiconductor they are now called Masimo Semiconductor. And it is one of the best think we have did, because not only we were able to focus them on our challenges, but we were getting much better products at much lower cost and even helped our set business, because of what they can fabricate for us. So I think, we were totally open to partnership. We have many of them, we started as OEM company where we reached partnerships with about 100 companies, this is a strategic area where we felt we are having all in-house under one bandwidth.

[Jason Bednar, Piper Sandler]

Okay. So I guess maybe following up on that point, because to be fair, there's a lot of really good consumer technology brands out there that you maybe it could acquire. So I guess is the overriding value here, just that you're acquiring channel relationships at a – while bringing on some pretty decent EBITDA in the process? I guess what I'm struggling with is like, what's unique about this asset as far as integrating with Masimo's technology down the road?

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Yeah, I think the channel is the obvious with the management team and but there's more. There's technologies that they have, that we have that together, I think will do a lot more for people, so again, I can't get into that stuff right now, but they will – I mean, I could not think of a better company for us to acquire given how we envision the future.

[Jason Bednar, Piper Sandler]

Okay. And just one more for me then, I'll hop back into queue. I guess, is there any concern, or can you talk about where we are with respect to revenue and EBITDA over the last 12 months that you referenced there being bolstered by kind of demand during the pandemic? Just maybe how you see this growth that the business looking when we move kind of post-COVID and maybe get beyond some of this what was potentially some kind of demand or do you not see it that way?

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

You're talking about the Sound United or Masimo?

[Jason Bednar, Piper Sandler]

Sorry. Just with Sound United.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Yeah. Well you have to assume that there is some COVID bump, that's really the way we went into it and still the way we felt comfortable with it. But if you speak to the management team, it doesn't seem to be a slowing down. And I think it's because of not only some of the new products they've gone into, but some of the new products that they're going to be introducing. So even on their own they're bullish that this is not going to end, however, we're being more conservative and we acquire them assuming high-single digit, long-term growth, but maybe a little slow down right after COVID.

[Jason Bednar, Piper Sandler]

Okay. All right. Thanks gentlemen. Very helpful.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you. Thank you so much. And look, I wish I could share with you all the things we're thinking and wanting to do. I know it's a little frustrating, but it's, we are more likely to accomplish the end goal if we can keep some of that to ourselves until the products come to market.

[Operator]

Thank you. And we'll go next now to Jayson Bedford with Raymond James.

[Jayson Bedford, Raymond James]

Hi, good afternoon thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple here. And I hope this isn't a naive question, but where do you see the bigger cross-sell opportunities here? Is it Sound United product into the hospital or Masimo products into the home?

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Now I move forward to the home. We see some opportunity for future products that we're going to be creating for hospitals that come from integration of Sound United and Masimo technologies. But immediately, we think they're going to be beneficial to our push into consumer health care.

[Jayson Bedford, Raymond James]

Okay. And just on that, the W1 offering, what needs to happen before you launch, I think you said 2Q, what needs to happen before you launch, is there a regulatory requirement. And then talk about the channels that you use to sell that product?

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Well, we go through a process called the premarket release, a limited market release and then the full market release and we do that even when we think the product is done, but we do that to ensure by the time we call the full market release, hopefully, we have a perfect product. So we're right now in a premarket release mode. As you saw, we debuted it as [indiscernible]. We have customers in the Middle East that are using it or about to use it and as far as – I think when you mentioned kind of the timing of the actual full market releases, it depends how smoothly the premarket release stage and the limited market release stage goes. Sometimes, they're done in a couple of weeks to – sometimes they've done in several months. And then as far as your regulatory question, we can market this thing without regulatory clearance but we plan to submit for FDA clearance because we believe this will be used by many people as a health product as not just the wellness product. So we might have two versions of it, like we do today, the Rx version and the consumer version.

[Jayson Bedford, Raymond James]

Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe just last one Sound United it obviously looks attractive from a valuation standpoint by Medtech standards. But can you just, Joe, maybe highlight some of the risks involved in this deal that you see?

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Yes, yes. Of course, the risks involved if we don't keep the management team if we lose some of the key people that we want to keep. The risk involved. I told you about a decade ago where we launched iSpO2, this new market could be a mirage for a narrative. We're seeing it more as a narrative. And it looks like COVID helped cement that vision instead of it being a mirage, so we feel wrong about that. But one thing I can tell you, regardless of where we hope to take this to the home. We think everything we're going to do with Sound United will make us a better company for hospitals and professional caregivers. So whether it becomes a home run or a second base, it's going to help us be a better company to our current customers.

[Jayson Bedford, Raymond James]

Okay. Thank you.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Thank you.

[Operator]

And gentlemen, it appears that is all the questions we have for this afternoon. Mr. Kiani, I'll turn things back to you for any closing comments.

[Joe Kiani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer]

Well, I want to thank everyone for joining us today. I'm looking forward to our Analyst Day, where post closing we can share with you more. By then, hopefully, you'll also be able to play with the Masimo watch yourself. And maybe buy some of it yourself. But bottom line, this is an exciting time for us. And this is the first major acquisition we've done post roughly seven smaller tuck-ins that we've done which every one of them have been successful. But this is a wonderful opportunities for all the possibilities we've been hoping for. So have a wonderful day and rest of your evening and we'll see you shortly. Thank you.

[Operator]

Thank you, Mr. Kiani. Again, ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude today's Masimo's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. Again, we'd like to wish you all a great afternoon. Goodbye.