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Earnings Call Transcript
2020-Q4

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Operator

Greetings and welcome to IPG Photonics' Fourth Quarter 2020 Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded and webcast.

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Eugene Fedotoff, IPG's Director of Investor Relations, for introductions. Please go ahead sir.

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Eugene Fedotoff
Director, Investor Relations

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. With us today is IPG Photonics' Chairman and CEO, Dr. Valentin Gapontsev; Chief Operating Officer, Dr. Eugene Scherbakov; and Senior Vice President and CFO, Tim Mammen.

Statements made during the course of this call that discuss management's or the company's intentions, expectations or predictions of the future are forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those projected in such forward-looking statements. These risks and uncertainties include the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on our business and those detailed in IPG Photonics' Form 10-K for the period ended December 31, 2019 and other reports on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Copies of these filings may be obtained by visiting the Investors section of IPG's website or by contacting the company directly. You may also find copies on the SEC's website. Any forward-looking statements made on this call are the company's expectations or predictions only as of today, February 16, 2021 only. The company assumes no obligation to publicly release any updates or revisions to any such statements.

For additional details on our reported results, please refer to the earnings press release and the Excel-based financial data workbook posted to our investor relations website. We will post these prepared remarks on our investor relations website following the completion of the call.

With that, I'll now turn the call over to Valentin.

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Valentin Gapontsev
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman

Good morning, everyone. We are pleased with our fourth quarter results as we delivered revenues that was 10% higher than the fourth quarter 2019 and was our guidance range. In addition, book-to-bill was above one in the fourth quarter as we saw the traction in order flow that in the third quarter continue during the fourth quarter and into 2021.

We are benefiting from the advantages of our leading-edge products, technology differentiation, low-cost production capabilities and the global footprint. We continue to see strong revenue in China which was significantly higher on year-over-year basis as volume growth more than offset on overall selling prices in the region.

We're also pleased to see a sequential improvement in the revenue in the Europe and strong sequential revenue grows in North America in the fourth quarter. Our system sales also improved modestly, but continue to be below last year, primary due to the impact on the economy from COVID-19.

We are demonstrating good progress in our core markets, thanks to our technology differentiation and low-cost production capabilities. In high power lasers we delivered strong year-over-year growth in both our rack mounted 1 to 4 kW lasers for the high-volume market and our ultra high-power lasers for leading-edge cutting systems as sales of lasers above 6 kilowatt increased 34% compared to the fourth quarter and were 56% of total high-power sales.

At the high end of the market, we are benefiting from an increase in order volumes for our 20 and 30 kW ultra high-power lasers and optical heads. These lasers not only enable 50% to 100% faster cutting speeds than our 15 kW device, but are capable of processing materials with 20 to 50 millimeters of thickness or even greater. This improvement in productivity and flexibility coupled with beam parameter -- superior beam parameter, record wall plug efficiency and reliability is driving the replacement of plasma cutting machines, other non-laser solutions and lower power laser solutions.

We booked the first orders for the new unique ultra-compact rack mounted U series of lasers for low-cost cutting systems, and we expect to start shipping them shortly in volume. Not only do these lasers provide extended optical performance, record power-to-volume ratio and full protection against humidity, they are also significantly lower in cost to manufacture. As a result, we expect this new design to improve gross margin for these products.

We continue to focus on growing sales in other applications that are outside of our traditional cutting and welding markets. Last quarter we launched our revolutionary and innovative handheld laser welding system and the initial customer response has been extremely positive. We believe this system has a great potential for IPG as it replaces traditional handheld welding products used in metal fabrication like TIG or MIG.

The product offers orders of magnitude higher quality welding and speed, much greater precision, flexibility, and ease-of-use to our customers around the world. In addition, for the first time, the product will simultaneously provide the highest quality pre-cleaning and after-cleaning of the weld surface and weld itself, respectively.

We have already sold a number of units in the last few weeks only and believe that there are many thousands of customers in the U.S. alone, and many tens of thousand worldwide that could be interested in this unique product.

During the fourth quarter emerging product and application sales were 28% of total revenue, increasing 22%. We were pleased with the performance of a number of products that are the key to the diversification of our revenue. Examples include, high-power nanosecond pulsed lasers used for foil cutting and cleaning in electric vehicle battery processing, as well as for ablation and cleaning; sales of medical lasers and consumable medical fibers, our gold standard thulium laser solution for urology; and green laser sales for solar cell processing. With record backlog, we expect sales of green lasers to continue to grow fast as our green pulsed lasers are enabling significant improvements in solar cell efficiency.

In addition, high-power lasers for defense applications performed well year-over-year. Despite the impact of the pandemic, ultraviolet and ultrafast pulsed lasers into emerging micro-processing applications showed strong growth for 2020.

Our Adjustable Mode Beam, AMB, lasers continue to gain traction in the welding industry, most notably in electric vehicle battery welding, and as a result, we received significant orders for AMB lasers in Q4. Our AMB products offer superior speed and weld quality over competing solutions, thanks to the broadest range of beam tunability which enables spatter less welding.

The multi-channel QCW lasers for high-speed spot welding applications bring significant cost savings due to an increase in welding productivity and decrease in electrical consumption. Beyond materials processing, we continue to develop new soft tissue medical treatments, mid infrared lasers for molecular level resolution online spectroscopy, inspection, sensing and biomedical research applications.

In addition, we are continuing development of our new generation of analog and coherent digital silicon photonic devices for super high-speed and highest volume data processing for telecom, data telecom, many -- and many other advanced future applications. Furthermore, we were extremely pleased by the growth we saw in advanced applications and medical applications.

Research and development has been a driving force behind IPG's success since the company's inception. We spent over 10% of our total revenue on R&D in 2020 and have over 650 people in research and development, including many scientists and engineers, who continue to develop new leading-edge solutions for our customers, helping drive efficiency and productivity in their operations and making our fiber laser technology the tool of choice in mass production more than 20 years tool of choice in mass production, nobody then compare, absolutely in quality.

I would like to thank our employees for their strong execution during our fourth quarter despite the continuing challenging operating environment. As a result, the wellbeing of our employees, their families, our customers, our partners and communities we operate and remain our highest priority.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Eugene Scherbakov.

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Eugene Scherbakov

Thank you Valentin, and good morning. The impact of COVID-19 on our production capabilities continues to be minimal and we are focused on ensuring the safety of our employees with social distancing and enhanced cleaning and filtration measures in place. Otherwise, we are operating normally. Despite the increase in COVID-19 cases in the Northern Hemisphere with the fall and winter, production has remained fully operational and we managed COVID-related absences effectively.

We were very pleased with the performance of operations during the fourth quarter as production ramped to meet the increase in demand, enabling us to exceed the top end of our guidance range, and report the first quarter of year-over-year growth in more than two years. We are proud of the improvement in the underlying gross margin driven by an increase in revenue, product cost reduction, and product mix improvement.

Total SG&A and R&D expenses were $76 million in the fourth quarter and continue to benefit from lower travel and trade show expenses given pandemic-related restrictions. As the business activities start to pick up and some restrictions are lifted and life normalizes in the second half of 2021, we would expect our operating expenses to increase as well.

We remain committed to supporting our R&D, while controlling total operating expenses to drive operating leverage for the company. We continue to benefit from reducing the cost of devices, our vertical integration and from the expense reduction initiatives we undertook in the second half of 2019.

Examining our performance by region, revenue in China increased 52% year-over-year, representing approximately 42% of total sales. Demand and order flow in China remained resilient during the quarter and orders booked in 2021 prior to Chinese New Year have been strong. While we face aggressive competition in the region, we believe that our products have superior performance and reliability and we are seeing strong growth in demand for our ultra high power lasers.

In Europe, while revenue decreased 5% year-over-year due to the effects of COVID-19, it did grow sequentially. In addition, in Europe order flow continued to get better despite the increased restrictions in Europe due to lockdowns.

Similarly, revenue in North America decreased 11% year-over-year, but grew 37% on a sequential basis with a good improvement in materials processing sales for lasers and systems and year-over-year growth in medical and advanced applications. North American bookings continued to be strong even relative to the exceptional order flow in Q3, 2020.

Sales in Japan decreased 29% year-over-year, while the economy in the region continues to be negatively impacted by COVID-19. Some regional macroeconomic indicators have improved in the recent months.

Sales to the rest of Asia increased 3% year-over-year, continuing to recover from the second quarter trough, and also benefited from the shipment of green lasers for renewable energy. Sales in Turkey decreased 2% year-over-year and grew 21% sequentially.

Economic indicators continue to show improvement from the significant contraction earlier in the year, and this is one factor behind the improving direction of our business. In addition, it seems that there is some optimism for an improving investment cycle driven by equipment upgrades related to requirements for flexible processing, automation and energy efficiency.

Our leading-edge fiber laser technology offers significant productivity gains, electrical efficiency and lower total cost of ownership over other lasers and non-laser tools. An increasing focus on the environmental impact and commitments to net zero emissions for large industrial manufacturers is creating additional opportunity for our lasers and bodes well for our long-term growth objective. We are already starting to see it with the electrical vehicles and electrical vehicle battery production and are likely to see it with other industries.

We believe that efficiency is likely to become a more meaningful driver in displacing processes that are energy intensive, such as plasma cutting and legacy welding processes. Despite the challenging operating environment that we faced in 2020 due to COVID-19, we believe that we are well-positioned as we enter year 2021.

In addition, we continue to believe that the breadth and depth of our product offering, our large and diverse advanced materials and components technology platform, our efficient R&D model, our strong balance sheet and free cash flow provide us ample flexibility and respond to business disruptions.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Tim to discuss financial highlights in the quarter.

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Timothy Mammen

Thank you Eugene and good morning everyone. Revenue in the fourth quarter was $337 million, and increased 10% year-over-year driven by growth from most of our key product lines. Revenue from materials processing applications increased 10% year-over-year and revenue from other applications increased 12%.

Sales of high power CW lasers increased 17% and represented approximately 55% of total revenue. Sales of ultra high power lasers above 6 kW represented 56% of total high-power CW laser sales.

Pulsed lasers sales increased 55% year-over-year, with strong growth driven by high power nanosecond pulsed lasers used in EV battery manufacturing, green pulsed lasers used in solar cell manufacturing, as well as higher sales of our new UV and ultrafast pulsed lasers which were partially offset by lower sales of low power pulsed lasers for marking applications.

Systems sales decreased 20% year-over-year due to COVID-19, but did improve sequentially. Medium power laser sales increased 25%, as there was some recovery in additive manufacturing and other fine processing applications. QCW laser sales decreased 16% year-over-year due to lower sales for aerospace drilling applications. Other product sales decreased 11% year-over-year primarily due to lower telecom sales.

Q4 gross margin was 44%, which increased 310 basis points year-over-year. The additional inventory charge reduced gross margin by 410 basis points. Excluding this impact, gross margin benefited from lower cost of products and a decrease in unabsorbed costs as a percentage of sales as compared to the year ago period. The additional inventory charge of $14 million was related to optical components that have been replaced by components with better performance.

Fourth quarter GAAP operating income was $65 million and operating margin was 19%. During the quarter, we recognized a foreign exchange loss of $5 million, primarily related to the depreciation of the U.S. dollar versus the Euro. Q4 net income was $49 million, or $0.92 per diluted share. The additional inventory charge and foreign exchange loss reduced EPS by $0.27. The effective tax rate in the quarter was 24%.

If exchange rates relative to the U.S. dollar had been the same as one year ago, we would have expected revenue to be $12 million lower and gross profit to be $8 million lower.

We ended the quarter with cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments of $1.4 billion and total debt of $38 million. Strong operational execution resulted in cash provided by operations of $85 million during the quarter.

Capital expenditures were $26 million in the fourth quarter. We expect 2021 capital expenditures will be in the range of $150 million to $160 million for the full year. Total capital expenditures in 2020 were significantly below our initial budget as we delayed some projects and some of these projects are now scheduled for 2021. 2021 CapEx includes facilities and equipment expenditure for production, R&D and sales activity to support our future growth. During the quarter we did not repurchase any shares.

In total, fourth quarter book-to-bill was above one, and we were pleased with order flow across all of our main geographic regions. Geographically, most areas continue to show improvement with the only area that remains weak being Japan.

For the first quarter of 2021, IPG expects revenue of $310 million to $340 million. Company expects the first quarter tax rate to be approximately 25%. IPG anticipate delivering earnings per diluted share in the range of $0.90 to $120, with 53.2 million basic common shares outstanding and 53.9 million diluted common shares outstanding.

The improvement in macro economic indicators is now more broad-based, and if sustained gives us optimism for 2021. However, we are a little cautious given the resurgence of COVID-19 in Europe and North America, as well as the uncertainty surrounding vaccination rollouts and return to normalcy is unclear at this time.

These uncertainties continue to make forecasting our business challenging in the medium term and our first quarter guidance remained subject to significant uncertainties, including the impact on the global business environment and expected recovery from COVID-19, economic trends, growth from emerging product revenue, competition, and the long -- the lack of long-term binding order commitments.

That said, we continue to benefit from near-term growth opportunities in ultra high-power cutting, electric vehicle battery processing, renewable energy, micro processing, medical procedures, and advanced applications. We believe the strides we are making in higher power products within our core materials processing business and new solutions are enhancing our competitive position.

As discussed in the safe harbor passage of today's earnings press release, actual results may differ from our guidance due to factors, including, but not limited to goodwill and other impairment charges, product demand, order cancellation and delays, competition, tariffs, trade policies, health epidemics, and generally economic conditions.

Our guidance is based upon current market conditions and expectations, assumes exchange rates referenced in our earnings press release, and is subject to risks outlined in the company's reports with the SEC.

With that, Valentin, Eugene and I will be happy to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]

Our first question comes from John Marchetti with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

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John Marchetti
Stifel

Thanks very much. Tim, I was wondered if maybe you could just talk about some of the puts and takes on the longer term view. I know you mentioned that the underlying fundamentals continue to get a little bit better here. But as we're looking out through the course of the year, all else being equal, would you expect that we're back to -- sort of getting back in line with a double-digit revenue growth range maybe off of 2019, as opposed to 2020, given that 2020 was such a challenging year?

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Timothy Mammen

Yeah. We're not going to comment on annual guidance or targets. And so, except for your last comment, John, I think we're talking about puts and takes, so, a number of them articulated in the script. First of all, the continuing shift to higher power lasers for cutting applications, a lot of the new product introductions, we're very optimistic about the handheld welder and growth in revenue from that. All of our emerging products in Q4 performed really exceptionally well, of course, pretty broad portfolio of items that are starting to drive incremental growth.

So, whether it's the green lasers, the high power nanosecond pulse lasers for EV, some increasing traction for ultrafast and UV. Medicals performed very well during the whole course of the year with the lithotripsy application. Other newer product introductions, the multi-channel QCW for displacing YAG lasers in spot welding. We had good orders for AMB.

So, if you continue to see traction and momentum across what is now a pretty broad base and diverse set of products and applications, we continue to see improvements in -- we referenced, again, some of the key macro economic indicators that we follow, certainly this year looks like it could be set up for being significantly better than the last two years we've been through.

I mean, the key issue will be to get out of some of the volatility that we've seen that's sometimes impacted the second half of a year as has happened in 2019, or has resulted in a slow start to the year as the pandemic did last year. So, the main target is to get out of more of the volatility and get to sort of consistent year-over-year growth on a quarterly business, and we've got significant drivers for that.

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John Marchetti
Stifel

Got it. And then maybe just as a follow on the gross margin side. As we're looking out over the next several quarters, any expectations that we should assume maybe some additional charges like we saw this quarter, or really treat that more as a one-off here in 4Q and we're back to a more normalized environment for gross margin as we're looking out over the first half and into 2021. Thank you.

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Timothy Mammen

Yeah. I'm much more -- definitively expecting a normalized gross margin print over the coming a year. We've -- during the course of the year, not just in Q4, given some of the volatility related to the pandemic, we have had significant inventory provisions and charges and the last -- the final charge and the end of the quarter, I think positions us well for a more normalized operating position going forward. So, I think, we've got a good start to the year in that context as well

And on the other side on gross margin, we've got other benefits coming through from some of the product mix, as we continue to grow revenue, better absorption of fixed costs. And then, if for example, the ultra compact laser starting to generate more meaningful revenue, that is a meaningful improvement in gross margin we expect from that. And then even taking the design changes on the ultra compact and rolling them into higher power lasers up to I think, 7 or 8 kilowatts -- up to 8 kilowatts they're going to be used in. So, there's a lot of other initiatives on cost reductions as well that we're optimistic about.

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John Marchetti
Stifel

Thanks, Tim.

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Valentin Gapontsev
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman

Valentin speaking. We expect for this year our gross margin to return back to our usual trend, above 50%. But we were very careful with for the current quarter we reported -- situation for quarter three, quarter four is not better result. So, quarter one, quarter two absolutely promising on there for target but of course, this year we -- our guidance, so very, very careful we consider it.

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John Marchetti
Stifel

Understood.

Operator

Our next question comes from Tom Diffely with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed with your question.

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Tom Diffely
D.A. Davidson

Yes. Good morning. Thanks for the question. When you look at the strong activity, sounds like you had pre-Chinese New Year in China on the order front, do you expect China to grow as a percentage of the order book over the next couple of quarters? Or is that being matched by growth in some of the other regions?

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Timothy Mammen

Tom, relative to like Q1 last year when China order flow slowed down dramatically. And then it really picked up in April and May. I would expect in total China order flow to remain relatively consistent as a percentage of the total, because the growth in Europe and North America is also starting to recover more meaningfully, the growth in some of the emerging products as well, that are not just strong in China, but are strong elsewhere.

So tonally we expect more of a -- an even contribution in a rather less China centric focus perhaps on revenue for the year, but not withstanding that China order flow has really been very strong prior to Chinese New Year. For example, not just a shippable orders, but even a frame agreements has been very, very good. And those are generally a place to get licenses, so that shipment can take place during the course of the year.

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Valentin Gapontsev
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman

Remarkable -- the more frame orders, the normal frame orders is practically doubled compared to last year --- last two quarters. But the majority of these orders is for high power above 10, 15 kilowatts when they use -- they are asking for license to get right situation. It’s a normal growth of high power from the point. So, we expect nobody can supplies and support it. Nobody -- it's all -- only we can supply working more than 15 -- 10, 15 kilowatts working [indiscernible] and always done for IPG, all China's done strategies today. It's a Europe and America is much more new here, but then you might share with few. We have got major integrator cutting system in Europe. In the U.S., they don't have all high power lasers, don’t have. So -- and [indiscernible]. But China extremely active in shifting to 8 kilowatts.

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Tom Diffely
D.A. Davidson

Okay. No, thanks for the extra color. That's helpful. And then as a follow-up, how big is the EV battery market right now for lasers? And where do you think that goes over time?

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Timothy Mammen

I think it's -- I don't have a definitive number on that in terms of where it is today. The message we gave on it is that it is a potential decade long investment cycle. And if EV vehicle production is going to get to the levels that are expected -- people talking about 25%, 40%, even 50% of total vehicle sales over a 10 or 15 years, it will drive hundreds of millions of dollars of laser-based investment for EV battery manufacturing and even laser-based investment EV auto vehicle manufacturing itself.

So, it's a long-term significant opportunity with hundreds of millions of dollars of laser-based processing required for that. Even some of -- I noticed some of the battery tech -- older battery technologies like cylindrical, which we're not using much laser-based processing seem to be evaluating lasers more and more now.

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Tom Diffely
D.A. Davidson

Okay. Great. Thanks for your time today.

Operator

Our next question comes from Nik Todorov with Longbow Research. Please proceed with your question.

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Nikolay Todorov
Longbow Research

Thanks. Good morning, guys. Tim, in the life up cycle you guys have been very consistent and putting about 60% incremental gross margin. I understand guiding sales is difficult, but how should we think about the incremental gross margin, you highlighted multiple cost initiatives? Should we think about that 60% as a base case, or you could see some upside? And also, can you talk about what are the limitations of rolling that ultra compact design above 8 kilowatts? And I have a follow-up. Thanks.

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Timothy Mammen

I think, some of the incremental gross margins are probably not far off where we were historically, maybe a little bit below that 60%. The one thing below the line we're cautious on is as we get into a more normal environment, we tried to call this out on the script is that it's operating expenses. You get more travel and trade shows and other activity in a more normal environment. OpEx will probably pick up in the second half of the year a little bit. So that drop through won't be straight to the bottom line.

In terms of the other question about migrating the design of the ultra compact to higher power lasers, Eugene, you'd like to talk about that and a potential rollout over time.

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Eugene Scherbakov

In phase four, we have several generations of compact lasers. Starting -- I mean, I'm talking about high power lasers, of course. They power more than 2, 3 kilowatts. And the first stage was already demonstrated and we already shipped sales into such kind of laser. The next step was to use a rack mounted compact laser for high power applications. I mean, this power more than one, two, three, and four kilowatts. Again, such kind of lasers all the way to supply to all the customer effectively for festival, for cutting also for building application. The next generation is introducing this year. It's much more compact, is output well up to 8 kilowatt.

If you go to the next stage and its first results demonstrates very good performances. And we're absolutely sure that it will be the next generation of ultra compact rack mounted laser cutting application. And very important that based on this design, they can dramatically reduce our cost of production and of course, propose to our customer better price. Such kind of situation is compact and ultra compact lasers.

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Nikolay Todorov
Longbow Research

Okay. Very helpful. Thanks. And just to follow-up, maybe, can you guys talk about the adoption curve that you expect for the handheld welding laser? It sounds like you guys have received -- you've mentioned extremely positive feedback. How much do you think do you have to educate the customer or to kind of prove their point? It seems like they're seeing the benefits outright, just trying to see, what are you thinking in terms of the adoption curve?

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Timothy Mammen

VG, do you want to take that?

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Valentin Gapontsev
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman

Our shipments are normal, only United States, so it's when we sedated more than 24,000 only small drops, which use this manual welding to instrumentation. 24,000 only U.S., but also large OEM [indiscernible] also use, but even if they -- each of them will buy only one unit, it’s 24,000 units, 24,000 units worth $600 million, only one basically, but if it goes as small drops off 10, not one, two, but 10, it’s all -- all wanted to [indiscernible] five times more. So, it's hundred thousand for each from -- we now provide for testing for this estimation more than 70 -- only U.S. more than 70 such drop, they sourcing this fantastic devices, recommend only cutting, welding -- cutting, welding increase six to seven times, six or seven times quality of welding much, much higher than with the regular, but simultaneously clean -- immediately clean such. It's pretty -- where would you -- after revenues, now, they will say [indiscernible] and mix, regular they have to use chemicals then to clean this in any case quality of final cutting.

Now they don't need to wait for one time put by way in additional motor operation, the same way that the OLED clean easier. So, the people would saw fantastic improvement. So they only waiting, waiting -- they are waiting OLED due to come formal [indiscernible] qualification for electrical emissions. So now we have it in the U.S. for emission. It started only a few weeks started to ship unit to sell to customers before we covered orders. So we're doing this year or we will have some thousand. Next year it would be 10,000 units. So, very fast for production [ph] market and with competition for -- during next one or two years in a way that would be difficult because very innovative -- anybody care.

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Timothy Mammen

And the other point, it is easiest to use as well. It’s easier to use. So the training of the welder, the skill of [multiple speakers]

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Valentin Gapontsev
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman

Very easy to use. The normal welder -- you have to train many months, even more. It's going to be some -- you don’t any question from your students [ph] after only few hours, demonstration presumably introduction kind of immediately. So, practically, it’s available to everybody today. It's also normal advantage, because quantity of professional welder now decreasing.

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Nikolay Todorov
Longbow Research

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jim Ricchiuti with Needham and Company. Please proceed with your question.

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James Ricchiuti
Needham and Company

Hi. Thank you. Good morning. On the topic of the handheld lasers, I'm wondering, are you going to market any differently with this product offering, just given the size of the market and the price points? And how are the gross margins on this product?

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Timothy Mammen

How's it going to market, at the moment we're rolling it out in a phase manner with some of the key. We had a lot of job shops come into evaluate it. And we're also looking at potentially some distribution arrangements that will potentially also have to expand some of the salesforce as volumes ramp up to support what is a much broader base customer list compared to our typical OEM based. So, we're continue to evaluate how best to get to that efficient model around it, Jim. But typically we've invested in this stuff as we've grown the revenue on it to get that return simultaneously. We may use a few more distributors around this as well.

And the gross margins, by the way on the products are very good, benefiting from some of the design improvements around the ultra compact lasers.

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James Ricchiuti
Needham and Company

Okay. And a follow-up question is, you showed a nice recovery in the U.S. -- at least on North America, at least on a sequential basis. And I'm wondering, as you look at that business over the next couple of quarters, how sustainable do you think it is? Is it broadly based? And are you feeling comfortable that that recovery in the U.S. is sustainable?

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Timothy Mammen

Yeah. The underlying materials processing business has improved. In fact, some of the order flow in Q4 with some of our specialty AMB lasers, the battery processes was also in North America. We still have some revenue to recognize on advanced applications. Medical growth will continue to be -- it's not going to quite as strong as it was last year because we came with such a small base, but the medical business has continued to perform well. We've got increasing visibility into medical sales in the second half of the year. The green laser is going to Southeast Asia, although they're made in the U.S. at the moment. The backlog for those, I've mentioned, is good.

I'd say the only thing we don't have longer term visibility into and which is more uneven and lumpy is some of the advanced applications, right? You're still waiting for some commercialization of the defense applications for that revenue to become more consistent and really start to grow consistently quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year.

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James Ricchiuti
Needham and Company

Thanks.

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Valentin Gapontsev
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman

We [indiscernible] share product, which not to wait from China. It is product for advanced applications and traditional cutting metal sheet. So then very positive increase essential up to 28%, but we are guided to increase up to 50% during a couple of years. 50% is the most of this product, new product, which we -- advanced applications we develop internally in U.S. So it's increase essential with sales in the U.S. also increase. Gross margin in the U.S. before the major contribution to the net income in the U.S. we receive from sales of diode and temporarily last two years, sales of diode decrease. And so income from diode decrease also. Now we work for positive growth in diode sales, it's for -- approach it from diode. And so also growth of advanced application same from U.S. and may develop in the U.S., not develop in the Germany and it is only in the U.S. mainly for some revenue [ph]. So we deliver American company we become one of the major generation -- major generator of revenue our target, American -- not just research centric, but also real -- of manufacture of new.

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James Ricchiuti
Needham and Company

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Feniger with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

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Michael Feniger
Bank of America

Hey, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. Tim, I recognize that you may not want to comment directly on one of your competitors. I was just hoping to get a sense of the big picture here. Some investors fear that with this bidding war, because it creates a bigger competitor that could be much more aggressive attacking the industrial markets, being priced aggressive at scale of R&D. Maybe you can help us understand the competitive landscape in laser technology a little bit more, how IPG positions itself to maintain that leadership?

And this type of bidding war, even if it's not direct you IPG, does it validate some of the mega trends that are accelerating with automation, EV, dual supply chains. Do you see more consolidation going forward around laser technology and automation markets? Just curious on your thoughts on that one.

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Timothy Mammen

There is a lot of different elements, that question Mike. First is, we're not going to make a comment on the transaction and the bidding war that's going on out there. I think the call is really to focus on where IPG strengths are in not only the core industrial markets, but also in a lot of these emerging product offerings. So, in our core industrial markets, none of the parties that are involved in the process that is ongoing at the moment, really have any core strength and capability where IPG's core strength and capability is. So, we don't -- we view this as being separate from our core strategies and capabilities.

In addition to that we've got a lot of emerging product development in areas that we've talked about the -- driving our growth with inherent advantages around the products that we have. So whoever the competitor is, IPG's fiber laser technology is unique in very many different ways. And we have this fundamental strength that comes from the vertical integration, the speed to development, the ability to get cost out.

And as you can see from an increasingly diverse product portfolio, I think the main point that we make on this is that we get a significantly rate of return on our internal R&D and making limited -- very specific acquisitions relate to our ability to leverage our own technology. So, we don't view ourselves as being a consolidator in the industry.

With regards to some of the other trends, I think, yes, they're perfectly apparent, right? The flexibility, the automation, the increasing acceptance of lasers across many different applications and technologies. Flexibility, we call out, for example, energy is becoming perhaps more fundamentally a driver for IPG where we're the only company that has a -- electrical efficiency approaching 50%. Nobody else is close to us on that.

So, you really have to, I think, look into some of the very specific benefits that we have rather than an advantage we have rather than look at what may or may not be a larger scale company that will have competitive advantages against us. We don't think that they will.

Finally, I don't know -- beyond this has already been quite a lot of consolidation within the industry. So there's a limited number of large targets that are left out there. The largest other competitor that's out there for us is actually a private German company. So, consolidation has already taken place a bit more meaningfully to varying degrees of success I'd say.

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Michael Feniger
Bank of America

Perfect. Thanks. Thanks for that, Tim. And just following up, if we get the higher end of your Q1 guidance and you see a typical 15% to 20% sequential growth in Q2, you're kind of starting to knock on that $400 million sales figure level. Do you have more confidence around the ability to drive gross margins above 50% at that point? Just help us understand what type of margins when we start getting into these types of buckets of revenue ranges?

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Timothy Mammen

So, I think Valentin alluded to that earlier in the call that, certainly getting back to the -- I'm a little bit more conservative, right, but getting back to the top end of our 45% to 50% guidance range. And then, really, if you start to see revenue get back up to that $400 million level without guiding above that at the moment, we've got all these cost production initiatives and Valentin is increasingly comfortable that we're going to get back into what I would call more than optimal gross margin operating model, as compared to just being best in class, which we are at the moment.

Operator

Our next question is from Mark Miller with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your question.

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Mark Miller
The Benchmark Company

Thank you for the question. You've indicated several times about the opportunity in battery welding for EVs. But there there's a chip shortage going on, that's impacting auto sales. Do you see that having any impact on you over the next couple of quarters?

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Timothy Mammen

No, Mark. We don’t think that the chip shortage in -- the semiconductor industry is going to affect us. Even though it is affecting the auto industry in terms of some facility shutdown. We don't expect it to have an impact on our growth and we don't have any visibility into it having an impact on us. We do not have any similar supply chain issues facing us at the moment, given all those integration. And we also have inventory of electronic components, for example, that we've built up.

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Mark Miller
The Benchmark Company

Germany sales were also down sequential in year-over-year. Is it -- is that it COVID also like the case in Japan?

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Timothy Mammen

I haven't looked at the German number, practically. Overall, Europe was up sequentially. So you saw -- I can't remember exactly where it is, maybe in some slight variation in where revenue in Europe was generated. But overall Europe we're actually pleased with in total. Rather than looking at Germany specifically, we look at the whole of Northern Europe and then Italy, and even in a Western Asia, Turkey, there was some sequential improvement even though single digit.

So, yeah, I haven't got any more commentary around that. I think Europe was better.

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Mark Miller
The Benchmark Company

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Joe Wittine with Edgewater Research. Please proceed with your question.

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Joe Wittine
Edgewater Research

Hey, thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask on welding. Obviously, EV battery is up on AMB and there's also a ton of interest in the handheld, which isn't surprising. But Tim, beyond that, how are you kind of viewing the broader macro welding market adopting laser -- and that includes both standalone lasers and then your systems mix as the broader cycle turns here and cost of capital as well. Could there be kind of a tipping point in play for that market where the adoption has been slow over time?

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Timothy Mammen

Eugene will address this.

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Eugene Scherbakov

About the welding market, yes. Now, it's driving by EV vehicle applications, but in welding -- but in cutting and foil cutting and so on. But in principle, our advantage is that we are not supplying today for such kind of cutting only lasers. We are supplying also our components -- I mean, different kinds of optical heads for cutting or for welding, blast monitoring system like LGD, blast shield laser specialist produce for such kind of applications. And finally, we start to produce a complete system for buttery welding. Already supplied to some customers, automotive customer, and now we're ready to supply additional such kind of system to the customer. And for us, it's not a new product, but nevertheless for us as a new opportunity. And we see as a very good opportunity for us to supply -- again, not only the lasers, not only components for this application, but complete systems in Europe, in China, and also in the United States.

In total welding market, it's growing well. Of course, not only connected to the automotive publications, not only to EV vehicle, but also for other applications, for example, for also -- based on -- basically of course, first of all, from different kinds of metal welding, but this demand is growing definitely year-over-year.

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Joe Wittine
Edgewater Research

Okay. I wanted to go back to the comments on rolling out features from the ultra compact designs to higher power units up to -- I think you said up to 8 kilowatts. I guess, I'm curious there, what sort of trade-offs do you need to make? Is it efficiency? Or could it be flexibility and durability? And going forward from a product offering perspective, do you plan to offer those units side-by-side these, -- 8 kilowatts, for example, with the ultra compact functionality versus your kind of existing full featured, if you will. I think that'd be interesting. Thanks.

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Eugene Scherbakov

First of all, we'll make -- when we producers such kind of ultra compact lasers. We’ve also produced a special components, of course. And this is why we have to dramatically decrease our cost of production for such kind of laser. But you see lasers producers -- such kind of laser produced, first of all, for cutting applications, but our customers must be ready to adopt this laser to their systems. Of course, they need some time also to change their design and to implement our ultra compact laser for this application. So exchange -- if there'll be not exchange, there'll be some new machines. It will be a much more compact, much more efficient final machine, for example, for cutting. From this point of view, you'll see very good opportunity. First of all, of course, better efficiency, better compartment, but first of all, better price for our customers.

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Valentin Gapontsev
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman

All of you that, for example, [indiscernible] CO2 laser for cutting -- high power fiber laser. We work 10 years, not one, not two, not five [indiscernible]. So fiber laser the magic for cutting quality from points of postage of mainly customer usage. So 10 years with granted now with CO2 cutting business, but the 10 years, not one, two, three, five, 10 years, you guys just immediately, during only few months, we replace this with any new product -- fantastic new product. It's not hideous. It's a long process, but now with them in cutting business, nobody is [indiscernible] then solar never will cut two or three millimeters, they never will cut five millimeters. Now with 50 millimeters we are cutting successful. Not only -- cutting our [indiscernible] we never talked about to replace. It's gone. It's about the run rate, not to be so naive that we're missing much further than other people, but it takes time.

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Timothy Mammen

Sure. The only other part of your calling was there is not trade off. I mean, we've never introduced a new product that has less reliability or lower electrical efficiency. This uses all the same optical components, but it has a much more compact electro-mechanical and sophisticated design around the electric mechanical. So, there isn't really a trade-off in terms of those parameters.

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Joe Wittine
Edgewater Research

Perfect. That's great color. Just what I was looking for. If I could squeeze one more in. The 20 to 30 kilowatt, curious what geographies those units are shipping to, if that's just kind of the pencils and et cetera, of the world in China? Or is there interest in the West, and then what are the relevant applications there? I'm assuming for cutting perspective, you run into some edge quality issues at that power level?

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Eugene Scherbakov

Probably not limited on 20 to 30 kilowatt. Recently already received the request for 40 kilowatt laser for cutting applications. Of course, we are ready for supply such kind of laser for these applications. First of all, applications for catching some -- but number of this laser also use it for welding complication, but for a special applications, like for special materials and so on. But mainly for cutting applications. And you're right. Unfortunately, the first customer now is in China for such kind of applications, not in Europe, not in the United States.

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Joe Wittine
Edgewater Research

Okay. Well, thanks and congratulations.

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Timothy Mammen

Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Our last question comes from the line of Paretosh Misra with Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

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Paretosh Misra
Berenberg

Thank you. Good morning and thanks for taking the question. Just curious that CapEx guidance for the year of $150 million to $160 million, can you provide some color as to some of the bigger projects included in that CapEx range and anything worth flagging us potential future growth driver?

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Valentin Gapontsev
Chief Executive Officer and Chairman

CapEx, first of all, we have to shift some CapEx construction, Eugene, first of all, for this year, you said 2020 because this construction and that represents hopefully for 20%, 30% all the time quality -- the way they did not get right material at the right time and so on. So all -- for example, one month delivery, but we will wait a couple of years to deliver -- to get even windows install and so on. It was awful time for construction this. Now we, of course, we need some additional first assembly facility. We need most of the opportunity [ph] small new products in a while. We need new equipment we need for mass production and so on. It’s a lot of times. We have to improve and we're creating now what are we invested now, we invested in for future. We will work what will we need to improve the year. But we won't involve, won't deal with new facility when by installing this equipment technology. Now then [indiscernible] where we get our addition in production and so on. We don't have huge gap. It's normal. And we still very small investment. We will double this investment more. We prefer to invest in this to increase facility, increase our production and also whole demand in the automate some this absolutely not efficient acquisition new business. We are not buying a new business. We are not buying nickel. We're buying only some technology growth with some technology. We increase our technology choice. So, it's our strength, it's our future, but not just to buy absolutely different, not possible to, well, -- very good business in last year, but to manage our [indiscernible] investment business and become a large company, not manageable. We don’t see such mixture.

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Paretosh Misra
Berenberg

Understand and really appreciate.

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Timothy Mammen

It’s okay, Paretosh. Next question.

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Paretosh Misra
Berenberg

Okay. Yeah. Sorry. And my follow-up was that I was hoping if you could provide some high level color as to how pricing and volume changed last year? Any color you could provide, would great.

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Timothy Mammen

So, on a year-over-year basis, pricing was down in a more normalized 10% to 15%. It has been basically, though, much more stable over the last three quarters since Q2, Q3, Q4. So those -- sometimes when you see an improving demand environment, some of the antics that the Chinese competitors and not so extreme.

The other part of this that we've talked about is that we're being more disciplined around pricing. We believe that the value of the laser technology is still extremely high, and that is the current pricing in the market. We're already displacing many existing laser and non-laser technologies and no -- more fundamental changes in pricing to drive that adoption are not required. So, I think good to see a bit more stability. You've obviously also had some benefit going to higher power levels for cutting applications. We have a competitive advantage. And then outside of that, the emerging product, for example, even high power nanosecond pulse lasers are very -- almost exclusive to IPG where we have a good ASP for some of those applications. So, mix has been a bit of a benefit too.

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Paretosh Misra
Berenberg

Great. Thank you so much.

I can close today's question-and-answer session. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to Eugene Fedotoff for closing comments.

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Eugene Fedotoff
Director, Investor Relations

Thank you for joining us this morning and for your continued interest in IPG. We look forward to speaking with you over the coming weeks and will be participating in a number of virtual investor conferences this quarter. Have a great day everyone.

Operator

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