Ibex Ltd

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Earnings Call Transcript 2024-Q1

[Operator]

Welcome to the IBEX First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] To note, there is an accompanying earnings deck presentation available on the investor -- IBEX Investor Relations website at investors.ibex.co.I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Michael Darwal, Deputy CFO and Investor Relations of IBEX. Please go ahead.

[Michael Darwal, executive]

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today. Before we begin, I want to remind you that matters discussed on today's call may include forward-looking statements related to our operating performance, financial goals and business outlook, which are based on management's current beliefs and assumptions. Please note that these forward-looking statements reflect our opinion as of the date of this call, and we undertake no obligation to revise this information as a result of new developments, which may occur.Forward-looking statements are subject to various risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expected and described today. For a more detailed description of our risk factors, please review our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission on September 13, 2023. As a reminder, as of July 1, 2023, we became a domestic filer and are reporting on a U.S. GAAP basis rather than from the previous IFRS standard.With that, I will now turn the call over to Bob Dechant, CEO of IBEX.

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Thank you, Mike. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you all for joining us today as we share our first quarter fiscal 2024 results. I'm extremely proud of how well our business continues to perform. In the quarter, we delivered on our key objectives while achieving the high end of our revenue guidance and coming in line with our EBITDA margin guidance. More importantly, IBEX continues to consistently execute, capitalize on market opportunities and strengthen our position.Q1 FY '24 is our seventh consecutive quarter of year-over-year adjusted EBITDA growth and our fifth straight quarter of year-over-year adjusted EBITDA margin improvement, driven by continued growth of our high-margin services and geographies. Revenues for the quarter were $124.6 million as we continue to migrate portions of our onshore business to higher-margin offshore and nearshore regions. Adjusted EBITDA increased 6% year-on-year to $13.7 million, up 90 basis points to 11%, while adjusted net income improved to $7.6 million from $6.8 million in the quarter, and adjusted EPS increased to $0.40 from $0.36 prior year.We generated $6.6 million in free cash flow, more than triple from the prior year quarter, finishing the quarter with an outstanding balance sheet that is debt-free and with a net cash position of $61.1 million. Our conversion rate of adjusted EBITDA to free cash flow was nearly 50%. We believe that our consistent trajectory of margin improvement and maintaining an outstanding balance sheet and our ability to generate strong free cash flow puts us in an enviable competitive position.From an overall client and sales standpoint, our pipeline is resuming its pace of wins and deal flow. Our growth has been fueled historically by our powerful new logo engine, and fiscal 2024 is off to a fast start. We began the first quarter with 4 impressive new client wins across key verticals, including health care and financial services, and that carried into Q2. I'm excited to report that we have won 2 blue-chip Fortune 100 brands, one in the automotive transportation vertical and one with a very large retail brand in highly competitive deals. Both are launching in late Q2.Our competitive advantage continues to be centered around our BPO 2.0 capabilities. And now more recently, in our ability to bring advanced AI-based technology to our solution. Of these 2 wins, one is in our nearshore Jamaica region and the other in our provincial Philippines geography, demonstrating our ability to win in all the diverse markets we serve. We expect these 2 clients to scale in the second half of FY '24. Additionally, IBEX continues to expand its higher-margin integrated omnichannel and digital first support, which is now 77% of our overall business, up from 71% a year ago.With these new wins and our strong pipeline, we remain confident in our brand and our ability to win transformative new business throughout the fiscal year. Operationally, we continue to execute well for our clients across all geographies and consistently outperform our competition. Our ability to not only land new clients but to expand with them is a strong proof point of our ability to operationally deliver. As a data point, today, for our top 25 clients, we operate on average in nearly 2.5 distinct geographies for them. We typically start with a client in one geography and then we grow with them in new regions based on our strong performance. We view this as a proxy for being a trusted partner to our clients and our ability to deliver exceptional customer experiences in all our operating regions.Now last quarter, I discussed our 3 access strategy for deploying AI for our clients to improve performance and the customer experience. The first access is focused on the frontline agent where we have been deploying generative AI to make the agent more productive as part of our Wave X tool set. Second is where we use AI in our deep analytics and business intelligence offering, enabling us to provide better, more actionable insights into the customer. And third is where we deploy generative AI to automate contacts with solutions such as voicebots and chatbots.This third prong is a further evolution of our digital transformation where we have been working with our clients moving from voice calls to digital contacts such as chat and SMS. We are now building solutions where the digital-first experience can start with digital automation, which we see as an even higher-margin service. This is why we are bullish on generative AI, and we see this as more opportunity than risk. I want to highlight that we are using our speed and our tech strength to quickly move into these opportunities. We now have over 15 opportunities in our pipeline with both existing and new clients. And these solutions are helping us win new clients.As an example, one of the key differentiators in our recent automotive transportation client win I referenced earlier was our unique ability to demonstrate and deliver an AI-powered smart IVR solution to digitally transform their customer experience. We leveraged our new Genesis platform and generative AI to build a solution that also includes conversational voice and chatbots, creating a seamless CX solution from an AI agent to a live agent. We see this as the next generation of integrated omnichannel and the next wave of Wave X. We believe solutions like this will continue the growth of our higher-margin digital first services.From a capital allocation standpoint, we are successfully executing on our share buyback program given the current valuation and the confidence in the trajectory of IBEX. Since we announced the program, we have acquired more than 400,000 shares back. We see this as a very attractive use of our growing capital. Additionally, we are actively exploring new markets for client expansion. Our strong balance sheet puts us in a great position to expand our geographical footprint and analyze market by market whether to organically expand or to look for a small tuck-in acquisition. And finally, our debt-free environment and our overall structure is enabling us to generate strong free cash flow, enabling us to put our capital to constructive use and to make targeted investments for growth.In closing, my team and I are focused on continued strengthening of the business and driving value for our employees, clients and our shareholders.I will now turn the call over to Taylor to go through our financial results and guidance. Taylor?

[Taylor Greenwald, executive]

Thank you, Bob, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining the call today. In my discussions of our first quarter fiscal year 2024 financial results, references to revenue, net income and net cash generated from operations are on a U.S. GAAP basis, while adjusted net income, adjusted earnings per share, adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow are on a non-GAAP basis. Reconciliations of our U.S. GAAP to non-GAAP measures are included in the tables attached to our earnings press release.We had a strong quarter, representing a solid start to our fiscal year in terms of profitability and free cash flow as our clients continued migrating to lower-cost offshore regions and we absorbed the impact of a changing business environment for several of our FinTech clients, revenue declined 2.5% to $124.6 million compared to $127.8 million in the prior year quarter.Revenue mix continues to trend towards higher-margin services and geographies, digital and omnichannel delivery now represents 77% of our total revenue, versus 71% in the first quarter a year ago, while our offshore and nearshore revenues now comprise 75% of total revenue versus 70% in the prior year quarter. Looking at revenue in total, the shift in geo mix and decline in the FinTech vertical were largely offset by growth in our strategic HealthTech and retail verticals.Net income increased to $7.4 million versus $6.5 million in the prior year quarter. The increase in net income was primarily driven by stronger operating results and higher interest income versus interest expense in the prior year quarter, partially offset by higher tax expense. EPS increased to $0.39 compared to $0.35 in the prior year quarter. We expect our annual effective tax rate to be approximately 20% for the year on a normalized basis. On a non-GAAP basis, adjusted net income increased to $7.6 million compared to $6.8 million in the prior year quarter. Non-GAAP fully diluted adjusted earnings per share increased to $0.40 compared to $0.36 in the prior year quarter.Adjusted EBITDA increased to $13.7 million or 11% of revenue compared to $12.9 million or 10.1% of revenue for the same period last year. The increase in adjusted EBITDA margin was primarily driven by stronger operating results from an increased mix of higher-margin offshore and nearshore delivery, higher capacity utilization and an increased mix of digital and omnichannel delivery. Partially offsetting these operational benefits were higher SG&A expenses for investments in sales, marketing, IT, infrastructure and increased compliance expenses to support our growing business.For the first quarter of fiscal year 2024, our top 5 and top 10 client concentrations remained largely flat at 40% and 59%, respectively, of overall revenue. Our client base remains stable as yet 1 new client entered our top 10 client list. We have worked hard to diversify our client base over the last several years and are proud of the progress we have made.Switching to our verticals. Retail and e-commerce increased to 23.4% of first quarter revenue versus 21.3% in the prior year quarter. HealthTech increased to 11.9% of first quarter revenue versus 10.2% in the prior year quarter; and travel, transportation and logistics increased to 13.5% of first quarter revenue versus 13% in the prior year quarter. Conversely, our exposure to telecommunications vertical decreased to 16.8% of quarterly revenue versus 17.3% in the prior year quarter. Additionally, FinTech decreased to 14.8% of revenue for the quarter versus 19.9% in the prior year quarter, impacted by the changing landscape for crypto and new economy investment platform [ plants ].Net cash generated from operations increased to $8.7 million for the quarter compared to $5.6 million in the prior year quarter, primarily due to stronger operating results. Our DSOs were 67 days, up 4 days sequentially. Several larger client payments were received shortly after the quarter ended and negatively impacted our DSOs at the end of the first quarter. Despite this, we continue to be below industry average.Capital expenditures were $2.1 million or 1.6% of revenue in the first quarter of fiscal year 2024 versus $3.6 million or 2.8% of revenue in the prior year quarter, and we continue to utilize our available capacity following the bills completed during the pandemic. The investment we did make in CapEx in the quarter was used predominantly for seat utilization of previously built out capacity.Free cash flow increased to $6.6 million in the current quarter compared to $2.0 million in the prior year quarter as we converted nearly half of adjusted EBITDA to free cash flow. This is the highest level of free cash flow IBEX has generated in the first quarter of our fiscal year. We ended the first quarter with $62 million in cash, up from $57.4 million as of June 2023, mostly driven by strong cash conversion of operating profits during the quarter. Net cash improved to $61.1 million from $56.4 million as of June 2023.The borrowing availability under our revolving credit facilities increased to $72.6 million at September 2023 compared to $71.9 million as of June 2022. During the quarter on September 18, we announced a share repurchase program authorizing up to repurchase up to $30 million worth of shares. In the first quarter, we purchased -- we repurchased 134,000 shares for $2 million for fiscal year-to-date through November 8, we have repurchased over 400,000 shares.Looking forward to the remainder of 2024, we're confident in the resiliency of our business, supported by the client diversification and strategic vertical expansions we built over the preceding years. As a result of our strong start to the year, we remain confident in our execution, which is reinforced by our reiteration of prior guidance and our share repurchase program. We believe our recent client wins and strength of our pipeline will return us to growth later in the year and position us well as we head into fiscal year 2025.I joined IBEX as I was excited about the diversity of clients convertible markets we serve, the strong balance sheet and positive cash flow, strength of our management team and employees and our ability to win market share to grow our business. As I have now been here for almost 3 months, I can say that I have not been disappointed in any of the assumptions I made about IBEX prior to joining the team. I'm certainly excited about our future and where we're headed.With that, Bob, I'll now take questions. Operator, please open the line.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Tobey Sommer of Truist.

[Tobey Sommer, analyst]

I was wondering if you could describe what you're hearing from customers and your conversations with them about calendar 2024 growth expectations in their businesses and the implications for IBEX next year?

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Yes. Our clients give us pretty good visibility to their business and their forecasts 6 months out, they'll kind of give directional views past that. If you look at the whole of them, they're still trying to figure that out. And you'll have some that are winning and they're pretty bullish on that and others that are kind of let's say, a little bit more conservative. You put it all together, its kind of looks like our top 25 clients that we've talked about, we talked about earlier that you don't sum up, some down. But for the most part, they're holding in really strong. And I think that's attributed to the very diversified business that we built not only from clients but from the verticals. And so some winners and some losers, we put it all together, and I think we're holding pretty strong.

[Tobey Sommer, analyst]

Appreciate that. And I was wondering maybe if you could describe the pace of deal flow, which in your -- first part of your prepared remarks, I think you described it as improving. And maybe add to that a little bit of perspective on the contours of the pipeline of -- for new logos.

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Sure. Yes, and that's an important part, as you know, of our business. And last quarter, I kind of shared that, hey, the pace is picking up, and we had some really large shields that are in play. And really delighted to announce that we're 2 for 2 on those very large deals, and we won 4 other deals. And that's really the track record that my team and I have built here over years. The first 2 quarters of the calendar year, our last 2 quarters of our fiscal year, they started slowing and they started getting delayed and deals. And I see that things are back to the pace that they were and with very large blue-chip deals and also what I think are some really new economy kind of disruptive brands. And so we're getting excited about where this business is picking up again and how that trajectory looks in the back -- not only in the back half of the year, [ in total ], but really into '25.

[Tobey Sommer, analyst]

And then I just wanted to ask capital -- a question about capital deployment and I'll get back in the queue. Should we expect a similar pace of acquisition -- or excuse me, share repurchase given the announced value that you said you execute over 6 months. And maybe if you could give us the parameters in thought process around how you're going to manage the balance sheet sort of over time once that's coming on and been executed on, how low would you let cash go? Do you want cash to remain relatively stable even in, with the share repurchase?

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Yes. Taylor, why don't you?

[Taylor Greenwald, executive]

Yes. No, absolutely. So, Tobey, we don't provide a forecast or guidance for our share repurchase. But what I can say is, we certainly believe the valuations that our shares are trading right now are compelling. And as you saw, once we announced the share repurchase program, we've repurchased over 400,000 shares for $6.7 million, and we have authorization up to $30 million. So we have over an additional $20 million availability to continue the repurchase program. But fortunately, if you look at our balance sheet, as you indicated, we have no debt. We have a very nice cash balance, we have positive cash flow. And so we balance all our capital allocation strategies.At this point, we don't have any debt to repay, aren't considering a dividend. So it's really our capital is going to be balanced between share repurchase expanding capacity in targeted geographies. And then we're also, as Bob mentioned, open to targeted and opportunistic M&A opportunities if they come along. So I would say that we are comfortable at our balance sheet, obviously, where it is now, but we'd also be comfortable deploying some of the capital on these items, assuming we get the proper returns. So we'll continue down that path but feel we're in very good shape from a balance sheet perspective.

[Tobey Sommer, analyst]

If I could sneak in a follow-up there. With respect to targeted acquisitions, could you describe in the broadest parameters, like what kind of thing would fit? Is it geographic? Is it an industry, is it some existing customer relationships? What would you want to extract from an acquisition like that?

[Taylor Greenwald, executive]

Exactly. I think we'd be interested potentially in geographic expansion, in geographies where we aren't currently located to get a beachhead and then we can grow organically from there. I think also, we have strategic verticals. And if we saw an opportunity that was focused on one of our strategic verticals, I think that would interest us as well.

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Yes, Tobey, if I could just add. We are -- for the better part of my first 7, 8 years here, we were heads down operating this business. And now that we've really transformed this business and we have this really well-structured balance sheet and business model. We've now really created a Corp Dev team that has a lot of pipeline that we are evaluating in that. And so going back a year, we're kind of just starting that process. And now we've been careful about it, but there's a lot of opportunities that we're having. And the good news is, I think we have the team that is pretty sharp and savvy and looking at the right things and then we'll make -- if that comes across, we'll make that decision.Operator, are there any more questions?

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of Dave Koning of Baird.

[David Koning, analyst]

Yes. Nice job. So I guess my first question, you're doing a nice job. This year is a little tougher growth-wise, but would you be growing better? Maybe how much headwind is the shift offshore? And how much is it in a normal year? Like is this year a 5% headwind from the shift offshore, but in a normal year might only be a couple of percent. Like how much of the headwind to revenue is this? I know that's good for margin, but just kind of talk through that.

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Sure. And I guess the way to think about this, Dave, and I think we talked about in the numbers is the percentage of business that we now have in the nearshore and offshore regions. And that increased 5% for our business. And so -- and if you look at what's happened in the U.S., which is where that is extensively coming from, that's down sizably. So you can see the correlation of the U.S. down to the movements in other regions. And so I think that's the math that's there. We're -- what I like is, I think we've got a lot of that, that transformation or the move kind of behind us as we move kind of into the second half of this year. And so I think the way I look at it is, hopefully, that will be key in us resuming -- kind of getting into resuming out what has been our really strong growth track record of the better part of 8 years. And so I think once those things kind of level normalized, I think that will be a key driver for us and especially because that pipeline is picking up.

[Taylor Greenwald, executive]

And Bob, I'll just add in terms of the migration, it certainly has contributed. We've had very nice gross margin improvement over the past year. It's gone from about 25% in the first quarter of '23 to 29% this quarter. And the shift to offshore has certainly helps us improve that gross margin as well as operate improvements we've made in the U.S.

[David Koning, analyst]

Got you. And then maybe just as a follow-up question. You've had a lot of years where you've grown very well, right around 10% or so. In a normal year like that, how much of the growth is from existing and how much is from new? And then in a year like this, how does that change? And then do you think you'll get back to normal by next year, maybe even late this year?

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Yes. We're hoping that we can get -- and again, the market is a little bit tough, Dave, right? So, in all. So can we get to double digit in the back half of the year in Q4 or into '25? I'm not quite sure we're there yet. But can we get into upper single digits, that's what we're hopeful for. In fact, if things keep progressing on the pipeline, we feel good about just how that trajectory adds up. And if you look at, Dave, I kind of look and say, and we've shared these numbers in past. Our new logo revenue has ranged in the $30 million to $50 million in your revenue over the last, let's say, kind of 3, 4 years-ish. And so as we kind of move from a $400 million to $500 million company, you can just kind of do that math, $30 million, $40 million, $50 million, [ of the ] $400 million, $500 million, also that adds in, [ in year, about ] 10% growth. But more importantly, as you know, those clients do have historically done 2.5x in a year or 2. So that usually -- you put those 2 things together, and that has given strong growth for us. And we think we're in a good position to have our business structurally look like that down the road.

[David Koning, analyst]

Got you. That's helpful. Great job on margins and cash flow, too.

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Yes, we're excited about what we've done here structurally as a company that just -- it's really -- we're proud of that.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Roswell of RBC.

[Matthew Roswell, analyst]

I have 3 questions, sorry about that. All revolving around the large wins. And I guess the 3 of them are first, you mentioned that they were very competitive. So can you talk about pricing and competition for those wins for the large wins and then in general? Second part of the question is the analytics piece, is that -- do you think that will become stable stakes to winning new deals relatively soon? And the final question for Taylor is, you had mentioned the ramp towards the back half of the year. How should we think about sort of the seasonality of the revenues, are they large enough to kind of move the needle?

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Great. So let me take the -- Matt, thanks for those questions and joining. Let me take the first 2, and then Taylor will bounce over to you, if that makes sense. But -- so the deals that I talked about, especially the large deals are very, very competitive. And again, I would just sit and say, think of the big multibillion dollar players, the $10 billion multiplayers [ have to go ] in those. And I -- so I like to call those on Broadway deals.And what both of them -- one common thing that we had in both of those and one was a nearshore deal and one was a provincial Philippine deal was the decision and your position around -- and your ability to deliver generative AI solutions in this one case, as I highlighted, the smart IVR that then has chatbots and voicebots in the front end of the experience and being able to deliver those. That was key. And if we bring it out light on that versus the other folks, there's no way we would have won that. And if I go back a year ago, that would never been in anybody's decision-making process.So it's front and center and the other deal, and we're implementing that immediately. The other deal was very similar, but it's kind of like [ Page 2 ] for them. And so what I love is in that area of the business, we're going, head up against a multibillion dollar players [ to more beating ]. And we're beating them because we have the BPO 2.0 capabilities, the culture, the analytics, the branding, all of that, the Wave X technologies and now AI, and we're not taking a backseat. And that's why I love about what we've done.And therefore, the pricing is -- it's not front and center. You have to be competitive. We think that with -- and again, think of this, these experiences now become [indiscernible] experiences. They are lower cost than [ teaming ] experiences, but it's just an extension. The way I look at this, it's just an extension of the transactions that we do with human folks, but now we get paid and -- but we're using technology to do that and you monetize it. And we think that, that is the visual, or I have is that is higher margin. So when you put all of that together, that's why we're bullish on this. And I know the market looks at AI as around BPO as a risk. But that solution is clearly an extension of what we do, and that's why we're excited about that. And that's why pricing is competitive. It's -- you don't have -- you're not winning on low price [indiscernible] you just -- we hold around.[ On your Part 2 ], I apologize for that long winded answer, Matt, but that was something that we're excited about. On the analytics side, that's stable stakes. But the question is, how good are you? So you have to have the analytics, but we're differentiating [ those difference is ] using AI through analytics, where you can, a, not be so reliant on [ tools, so you can scale it ] more cost effectively, but instead of surveying a low percentage of calls, you can survey 100% of the calls and then use those analytics, those AI analytics to find better insights [indiscernible]. And we think that we are the stable stakes, but within that [indiscernible] those that can build it as a strong competitive advantage, and I think we're in a great position on that. And Taylor will view on Part 3.

[Taylor Greenwald, executive]

Yes. So like Part 3 related to the progression of the year and how we see some of the new wins rolling out. So if we look at revenue from Q1 to Q2, we are going to have a similar seasonal rent as we did last year, maybe just not quite as strong, but I think it will be very similar to last year. And so revenue from a Q2 perspective will be down slightly on a year-over-year basis. But with the wins, the 4 wins that Bob mentioned in Q1 and then we have 2 [ of it for so far ] in Q2, we're going to see revenue ramping so that Q3 will probably be an inflection point on a year-over-year basis in terms of revenue growth, and then we see the contributing nicely to Q4, and we will return to growth in Q4.From a profitability standpoint, profitability often following revenue. So on a year-over-year basis, the profitability will be down slightly as rev will be down slightly in Q2. But we're also ambitious with all these deals that we've won and ramping, we -- as you know, we expense our training costs as they're incurred and we defer the trading revenue. So it has a negative drag on margins initially. So we'll see some of that impact in Q2. But as these deals ramped and revenue grows and some of the training costs behind us, you'll see a nice progress in margins in Q3 and Q4. And we always see a nice trend between Q2 and Q3 anyway just because of some of the seasonal training, which just falls off between Q2 and Q3, and we'll see that again this year as well.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Potter of Citi.

[Ryan Potter, analyst]

Just to see the 2 deals that you mentioned in 2Q and with some of it coming from your Gen AI capabilities. But could you give an update on where you stand with your planned investments and rollouts of into Gen AI and various capabilities around that? And I guess what has client adoption been so far or are we still in very early stages? Are most clients starting to ask for some Gen AI embedded into your current services? And [ tagging on ] that cadence question, how do you expect AI to kind of help you through the peak volumes even [indiscernible].

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Sure. Really good question, Ryan, and I appreciate that. So Gen AIs, it's early, yes, very, very early. And so we have pretty much over the last quarter, and I believe I have this in my remarks that we now have 15 opportunities sitting in that pipeline. Some of those are embedded base clients. Others are kind of like this new win that we had that you're asking us to deliver around that. But there's not one -- there's not one only solution, [ might, it's ] not like everything is voicebots or everything is chatbots as it relates to AI. Our clients are looking at us to kind of multiple facets around how to deploy AI to improve, either take cost out or improve the experience and improve the number of interactions that we can do.And so we're early on those and there's different types. And so as it relates to kind of the impact it's having, here's what I do know. Gen AI is not really taking any volumes out of any of our clients' business, but it has the potential to complement. It has the potential to move the actual human interactions to very complex and take the lower cost ones of. And if we can do that and we can use technology and create a high-margin business on that, it creates, I think, a powerful business model for IBEX. And so that's kind of how we're thinking around this.As it relates to -- is any of this really changing the ability to maybe not [ ramp ] so much during peak season. My team and I have actually been out in front with quite a few clients where we have kind of building call deflection solutions for them where they don't have to hire that many folks, and we do that. Now I think those will take hold probably for next year. I think they got a lot of interest on those for this peak season and probably didn't have the time to get there. And my belief is as we turn the corner here next year around, you're going to see maybe some of those solutions being implemented and some pretty good technology scale solutions that will be delivering.

[Ryan Potter, analyst]

Got it. That's helpful. And I guess on the excess seat capacity you guys have kind of called out. Can you comment on how much of that seat capacity is kind of left to sell into? And are there certain geos where you have more capacity than others? And I guess, in terms of CapEx, CapEx has been relatively low as you've been selling into seats already built, but can you comment on eventual additional buildup you might need and how CapEx might trend going forward and then how you decide on the organic versus inorganic growth?

[Robert Dechant, executive]

Sure. Taylor, let me take the first part and then maybe you can kind of talk around the CapEx. Let me talk a little bit about the utilization around the geographies and such. And we -- and I think you can see these in the growth rates of our regions that you'll see. But our offshore regions have been growing pretty aggressively. So we've been building a lot of capacity in those regions. And then our nearshore regions have been going not quite as [ fast, in the past rate ]. So if I look at it right now, we have plenty of capacity in the nearshore. That's why I'm excited about the 1 win that we have large client in Jamaica, because I don't think the big chunk out of that, and that's -- should have strong margin flow through to margins. With the growth that we've been doing in the Philippines, we'll probably continue to look at some new markets, some new provincial plays in a market like that. And so I think we can get into some balanced CapEx going, going forward. I think we've been very conservative, Taylor, I love your thoughts on that.

[Taylor Greenwald, executive]

Yes. No, I think you're spot on. I think that there's one geography that we probably would lean into a little bit more than others where utilization is right now is probably the Philippines. If you look at our capital expenditures in the first quarter, they were just a little over $2 million, which is around the -- it's on the lower side of our capital expenditures. We provided guidance of $15 million to $20 million for the year, which would imply that we would accelerate some of those capital expenditure investments and capacity expansions later in the year is when I would expect that to happen.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. I'm showing no questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Bob Dechant, CEO, for any closing remarks.

[Michael Darwal, executive]

Yes. Thanks, [ Valerie ]. Thank you all for listening to our earnings call. In closing, I just have to say this, we're really proud of what we've built here and have full confidence in where this business is going and our ability to deliver in the future. So, thank you all for listening, and we'll look forward to the next quarter.

[Operator]

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.