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Q2-2024 Analysis
1-800-Flowers.Com Inc

Adjusted Guidance Amid Fiscal 2024 Challenges

The company streamlined operations heading into the holiday season with effective inventory management and favorable weather, minimizing write-offs and shipping delays. Despite a competitive market and new surcharges, they reduced operating expenses by $10.8 million year-over-year, maintaining stable adjusted EBITDA at $130.1 million versus $131.4 million last year. They also faced a $19.8 million noncash impairment charge for Personalization Mall. With segmental revenue declines, particularly in Gourmet Food and Gift Basket (8.2%) and Consumer Floral and Gifts (8%), and a 17.1% decrease in BloomNet revenue, the company adjusted its fiscal 2024 total revenue guidance to a 7-9% decline, while keeping adjusted EBITDA guidance steady at $95-100 million.

Facing Headwinds But Holding Steady

The company navigated a challenging environment marked by a promotional landscape and new surcharges yet managed to maintain a relatively stable financial footing in the second quarter. They effectively mitigated potential pitfalls through good weather during the holiday season, which lessened shipping delays and customer credit issues, and through diligent inventory management that led to fewer write-offs. This proactive approach was further bolstered by a conscious effort to cut operating expenses by $10.8 million compared to the previous year, ultimately leading to an adjusted EBITDA of $130.1 million, only slightly lower than the $131.4 million from the year prior.

Noncash Impairment Hits Consumer Floral and Gifts Segment

The company took a significant noncash impairment charge amounting to $19.8 million for the Personalization Mall trademark in their Consumer Floral and Gifts segment. This write-down was attributed to revised revenue forecasts and increased discount rates stemming from heightened interest rates, necessitating a revaluation of intangible assets on the balance sheet.

Net Income Influenced by Impairment Charge

Including the notable noncash impairment, net income for the quarter came in at $62.9 million, or $0.97 per share. However, when this charge is adjusted for, the net income stands at a more robust $82.7 million, or $1.27 per share, maintaining parity with the previous year's adjusted figures despite fiscal pressures.

Mixed Results Across Business Segments

Performance among the business segments was mixed. The Gourmet Food and Gift Basket segment saw an 8.2% revenue drop to $540 million, largely due to a decline in wholesale business, as retailers tempered their orders in response to consumer sentiments. Despite this dip, the segment's gross profit margin improved by 220 basis points to 43.2%. The Consumer Floral and Gifts segment experienced an 8% revenue decrease to $254.8 million but also recorded expanded profit margins. Meanwhile, the BloomNet segment faced a 17.1% revenue decline due to lower order volumes following a key business partner's merger with a competitor, though profit margin did see notable growth.

Strengthening the Balance Sheet

The company has strengthened its cash position significantly, with net cash rising from $34.7 million at the end of the last year's second quarter to $117 million. This solid positioning allowed for the repurchase of $5.4 million of stock as a demonstration of confidence in the company's intrinsic value.

Guidance Reflects Caution Amidst Growth Initiatives

Looking ahead to fiscal 2024, the company has recalibrated its total revenue expectations to account for projected declines of 7% to 9% compared with the prior year. Nonetheless, it remains confident in realizing an adjusted EBITDA between $95 million to $100 million and a free cash flow ranging from $60 million to $65 million, indicating an underlying strength in operational efficiency and an ability to balance growth prospects with prevailing economic challenges.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2024-Q2

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the 1-800-FLOWERS.COM Fiscal 2024 Second Quarter and Year-End Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Andy Milevoj, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

A
Andy Milevoj
executive

Good morning, and welcome to our fiscal 2024 second quarter earnings call. Joining us today are Jim McCann, Chairman and CEO; Tom Hartnett, President; and Bill Shea, our CFO.

Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that some of the statements we make on today's call are covered by the safe harbor disclaimer contained in our press release and public documents. During this call, we will make forward-looking statements with predictions, projections and other statements about future events. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties including those contained in our press release and public filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company disclaims any obligation to update any of the forward-looking statements that may be made or discussed during this call.

Additionally, we will discuss certain supplemental financial measures that were not prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in the tables of our earnings release.

And now I'll turn the call over to Jim.

J
James McCann
executive

Thanks, Andy, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. This morning, I'll begin with a brief overview of our second quarter performance and then turn it over to Tom, who'll provide a business update. We will conclude with financial review from Bill, and then we'll open the call for your questions.

Heading into second quarter, we expected our sales trends to improve, our gross profit margin recovery to continue and our operating expenses to decline. Our performance was essentially in line with our expectations as our gross profit margin recovery and expense optimization efforts helped offset what turned out to be softer-than-anticipated consumer environment. Most notably, our gross profit margin expanded nicely, and as Bill will highlight further, our pace of margin recovery is happening at a good rate. This was our fifth consecutive quarter of year-over-year margin expansion, and we are well on our path to returning to our historical mean annual gross margin rate in the low 40s percent range.

Our gross profit margin is benefiting from the combination of a reversion to the mean of certain commodity costs and our Work Smarter initiatives that are centered on operating more efficiently. As Tom will highlight further, we are regularly evaluating opportunities to improve our top line through our relationship innovation initiatives, and this performance will only further be buoyed by the improvements we are seeing in our gross and operating margins.

Before I ask Tom to provide the business update, I did want to take this opportunity to highlight a new organization that we are very proud to partner with this holiday season. As many of you know, Smile Farms is our signature philanthropic partner whose mission is to create meaningful work opportunities for people with disabilities. Their work generates purpose and pride and enhances life skills and force their socialization. This holiday season, we are proud to partner with another organization whose mission is closely aligns with that of Smile Farms.

During this past holiday season, we partnered with a nonprofit called the First Step Staffing to employ approximately 350 individuals in our Atlanta distribution facility. First Step Staffing is an organization that provides employment opportunities and resources to homeless individuals who want to reenter the workforce and improve their lives. They not only provide employment opportunities, but they also provide additional support services, such as providing transportation to and from work, to position these individuals for success. They are a terrific organization that does great work, and we are glad to be able to partner with them.

Now I'll turn the call over to Tom for the business update.

T
Thomas Hartnett
executive

Thanks, Jim, and good morning, everyone. Today, I'll provide an update on our business performance, as well as an update on our relationship innovation developments, which encompasses new or enhanced product offerings, our merchandising efforts as well as user interface enhancements.

During the second quarter, we generated $130.1 million in adjusted EBITDA as our Work Smarter efficiency initiatives, combined with improving macroeconomic factors, contributed to a 230 basis point improvement in our gross profit margin. Our quarter-over-quarter revenue trends continued to improve where we encountered a softer consumer environment, especially amongst our low-income tier customers. As lower income customers continue to be most impacted by the macroeconomic pressures, we continue to see this customer cohort reduce purchases the most. Conversely, AOV increased approximately 3% as our upper-income customers continue to represent a greater portion of our overall population, and they continue to gravitate towards our higher-priced bundled products that provide a great gift and value.

During the first half of our fiscal year, we have been prudent with our marketing spend in a challenging consumer environment in which we didn't see an adequate return on investment. As Jim mentioned, under our relationship innovation efforts, we are regularly evaluating our offerings, pricing and bundling opportunities to ensure we have appropriate price points for each of our customer segments, and we are actively managing the pricing elasticity of our product portfolio.

Our focus on the customer journey, providing thoughtful gifting options and having the appropriate pricing at all ends of the spectrum, from value to luxury, has never been greater. During the second quarter, we introduced lower price points and emphasize gifts that are in our lower price ranges to attract customers who may be more price sensitive. This includes providing new value offerings, such as our Flowers and Fields collection at 1-800-Flowers that features custom-crafted bouquets that match an array of sentiments and provide great value beginning at $39.99.

And we continue to lean into new products and bundling offerings for customers who are looking to wow their recipients. Bundles allow us to feature products from our different brands and conveniently ship them to the recipient in the same package. This is also a great way to introduce our customers to our family of brands and give us a competitive advantage by marketing these bundles across multiple brand websites. These gift bundles provide great value to our customers, and we continue to see customers trade up in price points for these wonderful gifts.

As an example, we leveraged Personalization Mall to launch a set of food gifts with a personalized item, such as our Harry & David charcuterie gift bundle with a personalized maple cutting board. This program was launched as a test, and it exceeded our expectations. We believe there's a lot of opportunity here and, once again, demonstrates how our brands can complement one another and give our customers an elevated experience compared to others in the market.

As we look ahead to Valentine's Day, this year, we have a slightly better day placement than we had a year ago as it's midweek and a few days past the Super Bowl, which should be favorable to us. We're excited about our new trio bundle that features our 1-800-Flowers roses, Harry & David wine and Shari's Berries to create a magnificent gift. This trio bundle combines gifts from 3 of our brand and ships them in a single box that can be delivered overnight. They sure provide an extraordinary experience for the recipient and is a great last-minute gift idea.

Through our Gift & More marketplace, which features curated items from local sellers, we can offer customers a broader assortment of gifts across a number of categories including jewelry, spa, gardening and home decor to name a few. Providing customers with a variety of gifting options is core strength of ours, and we have an amazing family of brands and products that we can leverage to help our customers express every sentiment.

Now I'll turn it over to Bill to provide the financial review.

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William Shea
executive

Thanks, Tom, and good morning, everyone. Even 47 Tom highlighted, we continue to see significant improvements in our gross profit margin, staying steadfast in our Work Smarter initiatives that are focused on operating more efficiently through the use of technology and automation and also includes our logistics, labor and inventory optimization efforts. This enabled us to offset what turned out to be a softer-than-expected second quarter top line performance.

Going into the second quarter, we expected the consumer environment for discretionary spending to remain pressured, but to improve as compared to the past few quarters. Quarter-over-quarter sales trends did improve with our total revenue declining 8.4% and our e-commerce revenue declining 6.6%, but we had anticipated the pace of improvement to occur at a faster rate.

Our gross margin improvement helped offset the softer top line. The pace of improvement is better than we anticipated. Second quarter gross margin improved 230 basis points to 43.3%, and this is on top of the 90 basis point improvement a year ago. This represents our fifth consecutive quarter of year-over-year improvement. As Jim said, we are well on our path to returning to our historical gross profit margin rate, and by the end of this fiscal year, we now expect to be at approximately 40%.

Our gross margin benefited from lower inbound freight costs, a decline in certain commodity costs, lower labor costs and our Work Smarter initiatives that are driving operational efficiencies. A great example of these efficiencies include the labor savings we've been able to produce through our automation efforts. Our main distribution facilities in Medford, Hopewell and Atlanta are all in their second or third year of automation, and we continue to achieve further productivity gains, reduced the labor cost per package at these facilities by approximately 4% for the month of December and the first half of the current fiscal year as compared to a year ago.

Additionally, due to our inventory optimization efforts, our inventory levels were in good shape heading into and out of the holiday season, leading to fewer inventory write-offs. We also had a helping hand from mother nature who provided us with good weather this holiday season, leading to fewer shipping delays and related customer credits. These factors helped offset a more promotional environment as well as a new fuel shipping surcharge that was introduced later in the holiday period.

We also continue to optimize expenses. And excluding the impairment charge and the accounting impact of the nonqualified compensation plan on our P&L, we reduced our operating expenses by $10.8 million as compared to a year ago. As a result of these factors, our second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $130.1 million as compared to $131.4 million in the prior year.

Before we review net income for the quarter, I want to address the noncash impairment charge we took in the Consumer Floral and Gifts group segment related to the Personalization Mall trademark. As many of you know, we periodically review the value of our intangible assets. Our revenue forecast for Personalization Mall, combined with a higher discount rate resulting from the higher interest rate environment, required us to reevaluate the value of the intangibles on our balance sheet. Consequently, we recorded a $19.8 million noncash impairment charge for our Personalization Mall business during the quarter.

Net income for the quarter was $62.9 million or $0.97 per share, including the noncash and payment charge of $19.8 million or $0.30 per share. Adjusted net income was $82.7 million or $1.27 per share compared with adjusted net income of $82.7 million or $1.28 per share in the prior year period.

Let's review segment results. Our Gourmet Food and Gift Basket segment, revenues declined 8.2% to $540 million compared with $588.4 million in the prior year period. Contributed to this decline was our wholesale business, which declined $18.7 million, as several retailers had reduced their orders last spring for the holiday season in light of the consumer environment. This segment's gross profit margin expanded 220 basis points to 43.2% compared with 41% in the prior year period, benefiting from lower freight costs, a decline in certain commodity costs, lower labor costs and lower inventory write-offs. Segment contribution margin declined $5.4 million to $118.2 million compared with segment contribution margin of $123.5 million in the prior year period, primarily due to the revenue decline.

In our Consumer Floral and Gifts segment, revenues decreased 8% to $254.8 million compared with $277 million a year ago. Profit margin expanded 230 basis points to 42.8% compared with 40.5% in the prior year period, improving on lower freight and labor costs. Segment contribution margin, excluding the impairment charge, was $30.4 million compared with segment contribution margin of $27.9 million in the prior year period.

In our BloomNet segment, revenues for the quarter decreased 17.1% to $27.2 million. Revenues were impacted by the lower order volume processed by BloomNet, which included the expected decline in orders by one of our business partners following their merger with a competitor. Gross profit margin was 47.6% compared with 42.2% in the prior year period, primarily reflecting lower freight costs as well as product mix. Segment contribution margin was $9.1 million compared with $9.3 million in the prior year period.

Turning to our balance sheet. Our cash and investment position was $312 million at the end of the second quarter. Inventory declined $161.3 million, remember the inventory was $201.1 million at the end of last year's second quarter. In terms of debt, we had $195 million in term debt and no borrowings under our revolving credit facility. As a result, our net cash was $117 million compared with $34.7 million at the end of last year's second quarter.

During the quarter, we entered into a 10b5-1 stock repurchase plan and repurchased $5.4 million of our stock under this plan as of last Friday. This amounts to approximately 550,000 shares that we repurchased at an average cost of $9.73 per share.

Let's turn to our guidance. We are lowering our fiscal 2024 revenue guidance while maintaining our adjusted EBITDA guidance as we expect our gross margin improvement, combined with our expense optimization efforts, to offset the softer revenue outlook. Fiscal 2024, we now expect total revenues on a percentage basis to decline in the 7% to 9% range as compared with prior year. We're affirming our adjusted EBITDA guidance to be in the range of $95 million to $100 million and our free cash flow to be in the range of $60 million to $65 million.

Now I'll turn the call back to Jim for closing comments before we open it up for Q&A.

J
James McCann
executive

Thanks, Bill. As we look back on the first half of the year and forward to the second half, our quarter-over-quarter sales trends continue to move in the right direction, albeit at a slower pace. We expect this to be offset by the gross profit margin recovery, which is now recurring at a faster pace than we expected. Combined with our relationship innovation and Work Smarter initiatives, we're having a clear and direct impact on our business. We expect these factors to further fuel our performance in [indiscernible] consumer discretionary environment improves. While it's difficult to predict when the consumer environment and, in particular, for the lower-income consumer is going to become more favorable, we believe our results will only be further buoyed by our relationship innovation and Work Smarter initiatives that are evergreen and well underway.

Now before I open the call to your questions, a public service announcement. The Valentine Holiday is only a couple of weeks away, and we suggest you place your orders for all those special people in your life today.

Now to your questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Anthony Lebiedzinski with Sidoti & Company.

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Unknown Analyst

This is Alex on for Anthony. My first question is regarding the Celebrations Passport members. Could you share a little bit more about spending of those members during the holiday season versus nonmembers and give a little bit of color around path toward membership and order frequency and whether that changed much from the prior year?

J
James McCann
executive

Alex, this is Jim. Too bad, Anthony isn't here. That was the best pronunciation of his name we've heard so far and he missed it.

But to your question, Alex, Tom will give you the details on your question. But I would say, overall, the Passport customer is behaving as it has and as it continues now for quite a number of years. I think you'll hear later on that we are -- have a lot of programmatic plans to enhance the Passport program. It's gradually moving from just a free shipping capability to now a loyalty program special offers. So this is a special group of people, and we're trying to treat them in a special way that we should. So we have a stream of programs that you'll see introduced throughout the course of this year.

But Tom, as to the specifics of Alex's question, spending patterns of...

T
Thomas Hartnett
executive

Yes. So trend lines, year-over-year, are the same as a year ago, which we'll continue to see that Passport customer purchasing 2 to 3x more than our average customer. And so all those lines are continuing to move in the same direction. So...

W
William Shea
executive

And our Passport customer represents about 20% of our revenues.

T
Thomas Hartnett
executive

Right.

U
Unknown Analyst

I appreciate the color. And I think you commented that commodity costs are normalizing to the mean. Curious about one other cost regarding ocean freight, given some of the Houthi attacks in the Red Sea. Are you seeing any significant freight cost increases?

J
James McCann
executive

Alex, Bill will give you his color on that. But who would have thought a year ago that we'd be talking about Houthis, but we are. And we're anticipating some impact, but we haven't yet. Bill, specifically, what's going on with the ocean freight costs?

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William Shea
executive

Yes. Due to the Houthi attacks in the Red Sea, certainly, the spot markets have jumped up pretty dramatically on ocean freight. We have contracted rates that basically carry us through the end of the fiscal year. And so far, the carriers have honored those rates.

The bigger unknown is how long the issues in the Red Sea persist and whether that affects future negotiations and next year's holiday season. We begin negotiations for those rates in a few months, and a lot will depend on what happens in that area.

J
James McCann
executive

So Alex, overall color on that, too, is like so many companies that are U.S.-based, we're taking the steps we can, longer range, to lessen our dependency for those commodity items that we do import so that we can source them domestically. I think pretty much every company in the U.S. has started a program like that, and we'll continue to pursue that.

But if the tensions in the Red Sea area continue into the summertime, we would anticipate that they would have an impact on our holiday imports that primarily arrive in the summertime. But we're -- as Bill said, through the end of the fiscal year, the June fiscal year-end, we don't anticipate a hit.

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Unknown Analyst

Appreciate the color there. And last question for me. curious how you guys are thinking about acquisition opportunities for '24 or '25.

J
James McCann
executive

Well, I'd say we're always in the market looking to see if there's a way that we can flesh out the offerings we have to our -- for our customers or find a service that would be beneficial to our service offerings, a suite of service offerings we have for our customers. And the third area that we look for acquisitions to help us is with talent acquisitions.

I would say there's a lot available right now because I think the cost of capital, which has changed so dramatically in the last 12 months, 24 months, has really put the -- a hurt on so many companies. So there's lots available but we're being very judicious about what we look at and really being disciplined about does it genuinely help us, does it genuinely make us a better company, does it improve our service offering for our customers.

So we're active. There's a lot available, but I wouldn't expect that we're going to be doing anything too dramatic.

Operator

And our next question comes from Michael Kupinski with NOBLE Capital Markets.

M
Michael Kupinski
analyst

A couple of them. Can you talk about -- maybe I'm going to parse the commodity price opportunity there. Can you talk about how commodity prices and where they are relative to the mean in terms of maybe a percent? So you can kind of give us a sense of what are the opportunities left yet from where we are right now in terms of commodity prices relative to the mean.

J
James McCann
executive

Well, I would say -- this is Jim, Michael. I would say, 2 years ago, it was a peak in terms of how we got hit with commodity prices. It started, of course, with fuel when it went to well over $100 a barrel surcharges. Well how we did it? Bill already mentioned that we did have a surcharge hit that came at the very beginning of December this year that cost us a few million dollars this year.

The other commodities that are important to us, we bake a lot, we prepare a lot of food, so butter, flour, eggs are all commodities that we use a lot of. Bill, where would you say we are in that scheme? I know we're not back to 2019 kind of levels.

Where -- labor, by the way, is one. It's not a commodity, but it's a cost ingredient, and that's not going to come back. Whatever we did in terms of increases are going to stay, but the pressure there is [indiscernible].

Where are we on actual commodities now, Bill?

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William Shea
executive

Yes, it's split. There's certain commodities to mention, butter and eggs. Those are certainly back to more of their historical means, but there are others like sugar and cocoa that is still very high.

I think if you take a step back from a gross margin standpoint, we're actually exceeding where our expectations were, up 230 basis points for the quarter, up 280 basis points year-to-date, first 2 quarters of the year. You can kind of split those gains into almost 2 pockets, the kind of -- some of the macro items, ocean freight, some of those commodity costs that you mentioned. Labor availability and having labor availability just gives us a lot of flexibility, so allows us our automation efforts, our operational efficiencies, our logistics initiatives, our inventory planning. Inventory both in and out of the quarter with that -- the profit levels that we needed it to be at, which led to less inventory write-offs.

J
James McCann
executive

But last year, on the inventory side, like so many companies, we inventoried up because of logistic challenges. So we were sure we had the product. This year, we didn't have to buy so much so early.

W
William Shea
executive

That's right. So again, as a result of maybe some of the macro trends and the global supply chain being more secure at the time, us being able to manage inventory at the appropriate level, which led to less inventory write-offs, which led to improved margins. So really, a combination of both macro as well as internal Work Smarter initiatives that we had.

J
James McCann
executive

So overall, commodity costs are still higher than the mean we talk about, but have been improving.

W
William Shea
executive

That's correct. Certain components of commodity cost have come back to the mean, but others are still at very high levels.

M
Michael Kupinski
analyst

Okay. And when do we begin to comp against the substantial portion of the Work Smarter initiatives you implemented?

W
William Shea
executive

Work Smarter is an ongoing effort. So we continue to add to that. But certainly, an example is our automation efforts, where in many of our distribution facilities, we're now in the second year. And then one facility, we're in the third year of those automation efforts.

Labor efficiencies are down, and our labor cost per package are down like 4% this year over last year.

J
James McCann
executive

So our efficiencies are up. Labor efficiencies are up, but our labor costs, our average are down because of the automation.

W
William Shea
executive

Exactly right.

J
James McCann
executive

And we'll continue, Michael, with those automation efforts. So as Bill mentioned, we're in a third and/or second year depending on the facility, and we're implementing new programs on top of that now.

W
William Shea
executive

So this is an ongoing effort, Michael. We're going to continue to get savings into the future.

M
Michael Kupinski
analyst

Got you. And then can you talk a little bit about Personalization Mall then, in terms of its performance and how you are looking at Personalization Mall for the balance of this year and what expectations you might have there?

J
James McCann
executive

There's a combination of things that have happened with Personalization Mall. Tom will give you the full color on that.

T
Thomas Hartnett
executive

Yes, Michael. The Personalization Mall business was roughly in line with the segment, maybe a little bit better performance than the segment for the quarter. And we're expecting, just like our other segments, that the rate of -- the sales trend for the second half of the year will be in a better direction than they were in the first half of the year.

J
James McCann
executive

One program we introduced there in Personalization Mall is we launched the -- rechristened IP around Things Remembered. So that's a new brand with a new product line and a different range of product. That brand is a well-known brand, and it gives us the opportunity to be in a broader range of products. So we -- higher price points, really fancy items, like the vase we have that [indiscernible] Tom, Michael, about that.

T
Thomas Hartnett
executive

Yes. So that's one of our better sellers every day. I mean, it's -- the vase that I think retails for over $150. And obviously, it's personalized and it's a wonderful...

J
James McCann
executive

Beautiful item.

T
Thomas Hartnett
executive

Beautiful item. So our AOVs in the -- and again, we're just kind of getting started there because when we acquired the IP, it's taking us some time to build up the inventory and their best sellers. So we got to a portion of that this holiday season, but the average ticket is 175 basis points higher or 175x the Personalization Mall of AOV. So good price point, great gifts and feeling -- and addressing a different cohort of customers, whether it be weddings or retirements or special moments in people's lives. So...

J
James McCann
executive

But all leveraging off the same fixed cost, same fixed facility that we have there in Personalization Mall, Michael.

M
Michael Kupinski
analyst

Got you. One last question, if you don't mind. In terms of your revenue guidance for the year, what expectations are baked into your guidance in terms of like the general economy? Are you -- can you kind of give us some sense of what those expectations are?

J
James McCann
executive

Bill?

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William Shea
executive

Michael, we revised our revenue guidance to be down 7% to 9% with the first half of the year being down around 9%, so implying a slightly better trend into the second half of the year.

I think we've modified our guidance, I think, at the beginning of the year. We were hopeful that the improvements that we're seeing would be even be more accelerated, both through the second quarter and into the second half of the year. So it is improving at a slower pace than what we originally anticipated, and that is tied to the macro environment not being as robust as we hoped it would be.

J
James McCann
executive

So baked into that is the trend continues to improve, just not at the pace we were hoping for.

Operator

And our next question today comes from Linda Bolton-Weiser with D.A. Davidson.

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Linda Bolton-Weiser
analyst

So I was wondering, just your comments about the consumer environment, I mean consumer sentiment. Michigan consumer sentiment has been below 70 now for like 2 years. So it just seems like we're stuck in this low consumer sentiment thing, which is not good for your business, obviously.

But if this still persist, let's say, for another year, what would you do different in your business? Is there anything additional you could do in terms of cost structure? Or like how would you think about things if this continued on like this with revenue declines like this for another year? How would you think about -- what would you think about doing differently?

J
James McCann
executive

Thanks for your question, Linda. We missed you the last quarter. Really good question and one we've talked a lot about over the last month or 2. And the answer is a couple of things. One is we're still recovering from the COVID bounce as so many of our e-commerce kinds of companies like us experienced. So we're still in that back end of the wave of that.

The second thing is that I think the consumer sentiment generally is pretty good, but it's bifurcated. And categories like ours are seeing it. We look very hard at the competitive data that we have, that we buy. And the good news, bad news. Bad news is everyone in our categories has gotten hit with the back end of this COVID wave. The good news is that we're holding share or gaining share. So good and bad.

And what we think would -- if this trend didn't continue on the pace that it is for recovery, and it went the other way, we have several levers that we could pull to make sure that we continued on the profitability trend that we're on, which is quite healthy. But we think could be -- if the consumer trend continues on this pace and maybe improves a little bit, then it's really good. If it declines from the trend we're on and gets worse, then we have quite a bit of leverage in our operating model to make that -- to make up for that and to make sure our bottom line continues to be strong.

Bill, what else would you add to that?

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William Shea
executive

Yes. Just from a top line perspective, we continuously evaluate our offerings, our pricing, our bundling opportunities to ensure we have the appropriate price points for each of our consumer segments, and we have some pricing elasticity in that. So we are very consumer-focused, trying to improve the consumer experience on it to -- ultimately, to buck against some of those macro trends.

J
James McCann
executive

So when you talk about elasticity, you mean price points, both at the higher end and the lower end.

W
William Shea
executive

yes. From a costing perspective, our trend lines on our gross margin are moving as -- at an accelerated pace back towards our -- the mean of the kind of the low 40s. So we continue to expect that gross margins will improve. And our expense optimization, you've seen that for the last 1.5 years, and we're going to continue those efforts to watch any softness in the top line.

J
James McCann
executive

So in summary, we hope it doesn't happen. But we do have capability and plans that if the trend would turn negative, that we'd be -- we'd have the ability to respond to it appropriately.

L
Linda Bolton-Weiser
analyst

Can I ask one more about the Google? I think they've made some additional changes with regard to their blast e-mail marketing that some of my consumer companies have mentioned. They're trying to figure out what that means for them. Have you analyzed what those changes mean for your marketing processes?

J
James McCann
executive

We have, Linda. There's lots of changes. And there's both the changes that Google is implementing or talking about implementing, what they have implemented and there's also a big macro trends that are happening in the marketplace that we feel we're in awfully good position to weather and respond to. And frankly, some of the things we experienced during the last quarter give us hope that we're going to be less dependent on the big search engines in the future than we were. One of the big assets we've accumulated through the COVID burst was a huge increase in our database. And that gives us some flexibility and less dependency on search engine activity.

But Tom, you know really well the specifics of Linda's question.

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Thomas Hartnett
executive

Yes. I mean, I think we're talking up, Linda, as just another change for Google, which is a very dynamic business and always has changes going on. Certainly, we also saw some significant changes in just the surf and how the landing pages for Google showed up this year, which we're always reacting to.

Overall, this was a competitive environment. Their CPMs and CPAs were up, et cetera, and we kind of expected that to occur.

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James McCann
executive

And if you -- all of your marketing budget or a substantial part of your marketing budget is at that bottom-in-a-funnel kind of activity there, it's going to have a big ramifications on you. Fortunately, for us, that's not the case.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Today's next question comes from Alex Fuhrman with Craig-Hallum.

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Alex Fuhrman
analyst

Congratulations on the strong bottom line results in the quarter. Bill, I was wondering if you could unpack the lower revenue guidance a little bit more. It seems like the Q2 results were not very far off from what we were all expecting, but the change to the full year revenue guidance is not insignificant. So is it something maybe you're seeing in kind of the low period between Christmas and Valentine's Day that was maybe a little bit disappointing? Or just curious if you're seeing any kind of early trend lines since Valentine's Day now or if that's maybe too early.

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James McCann
executive

Well, it's -- I would say definitely too early. Valentine's Day is a real pain in the neck because it's very, very busy for several days. Mother's Day, it's a 2-week ramp-up. The holiday quarter is from Thanksgiving on that's maybe a week or 2 before Thanksgiving. But Valentine's Day, it's a big burst of business. Customer dynamic changes. It goes from majority women to majority men, which are wonderful customers, but they don't come back as regularly and frequently as our female customers do. So it's something we -- it's expensive to prepare for, our cost of goods jumps way up, and we have this big burst of business.

So yes, it's a little difficult for us to project exactly what will happen in Valentine's Day. But as Tom mentioned, date placement is critical for Valentine's Day. And last year, for the first time, the Super Bowl was right before Valentine's Day. So Valentine's day was Tuesday last year and the Super Bowl was at Sunday. They moved it back a week, and it's -- from its normal schedule to allow more time for the extra regular season game and still have 2 weeks from the divisional playoffs till the Super Bowl.

So we think that we're still going to have that this year. So it's still close to Valentine's Day but now you have 3 selling days, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday with people in their normal work routines and not having the distraction of the Super Bowl just 48 hours before, if I say so. So we're expecting all of those things will [ endure ] to our benefit. Also, we have to watch the weather carefully because that's a big variable.

So nothing -- we're excited that Valentine's Day is coming. It's a pain in the neck, as I've mentioned. I've been through a few of these. But we don't see anything trend-wise that would give us any concern or, frankly, any recent getup as kick on our heels.

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William Shea
executive

But Alex, I mean, while our sales trend did improve in the second quarter, it didn't move at the pace of recovery that we had anticipated. So still a little softer than we wanted it to be. And as a result, our second half of the year, which we had originally thought to be at a faster improvement than we're currently at. That's why we changed our guidance.

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Jim McCann for any closing remarks.

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James McCann
executive

Well, thanks so much for your time and interest today. Please let us know if you have any other questions. We're available to answer them for you. Please reach out.

And do remember, as Alex just mentioned, Valentine's Day is fast approaching. Today's, February 1. Valentine's Day is the 14th. Valentine's weekend begins around the 8th or 9th, so make sure that people in your life that you care about know how much you care for them.

Thanks for your time today.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines, and have a wonderful day.

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