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Earnings Call Transcript
2018-Q2

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Hawaiian Q2 2018 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Kevin Haseyama, Investor Relations Manager. Sir, you may begin.

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Kevin Haseyama
Strategic Planning & IR Manager

Thank you, Valarie, and thank you, everyone, for joining us as we review our financial results for the second quarter of 2018. With me today are Bob Harrison, Chairman and CEO; Eric Yeaman, President, COO and Interim CFO; and Ralph Mesick, Chief Risk Officer. We have prepared a slide presentation that we will refer to in our remarks today. The presentation is available for downloading and viewing on our Web site at fhb.com in the Investor Relations section.

Also, during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements, so please refer to Slide 2 for our Safe Harbor statement. We will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. The appendix to this presentation contains reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to comparable GAAP measures.

And now I'll turn the call over to Bob who will provide you with the second quarter highlights, starting on Slide 3.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Thank you, Kevin. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today as we report on our second quarter results. This was an eventful quarter, as we turned in a solid financial performance, driven by good loan growth and expanding NIM, resulting in a 7.7% increase in net interest income on a year-over-year basis.

In addition, BNP Paribas completed another successful stock offering which combined with our share repurchase, brought their ownership in First Hawaiian below 50%.

Starting with our financial highlights, net income was $69.1 million, up 1.6% from the prior quarter and 21.4% from the prior year. This performance was driven by solid loan growth and improving deposit mix, expanded net interest margin and continued excellent asset quality.

Our profitability measures remain strong with the return on average tangible assets of 1.45% and a return on average tangible common equity of 18.83 and we maintained a 48% efficiency ratio. Yesterday our Board of Directors declared a $0.24 per share dividend payable on September 7 to shareholders of record at the close of business on August 27.

Slide 4 contains the highlights of BNP's offering and our concurrent share repurchase. As a result of the offering of repurchase, BNPP's ownership stake in First Hawaiian saw the 48.8%, with their ownership falling below 50%, First Hawaiian no longer qualifies for the Control Company Exemption under NASDAQ listing guidelines. And we are required to have a majority of independent Board members by May 10, 2019, 1-year from the transaction date.

As I said before, we intend to return capital to shareholders, so we do not need to prudently grow the business and the share repurchase demonstrates our commitment. Including the share repurchase, we’ve returned about $299 million or 79% of earnings to the shareholders since the IPO.

Year-to-date we’ve returned a $148 million through dividends and share repurchase. At quarter end, we remained well capitalized with a total capital ratio of 13.23% and a leverage ratio of 8.61%.

Now I will turn it over to Eric to go through the financials.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Thanks, Bob. Turning to Slide 5, we had a good loan growth in the quarter, up 1.4% on a linked quarter basis or 5.6% annualized in line with our mid single-digit guidance for the full-year. We saw strong loan growth in commercial real estate and construction, residential real estate and consumer loans, partially offset by a decline in C&I.

CRE and construction grew a $158.8 million or 4.8% from the prior quarter. The majority of the growth was driven by a strong pipeline of deals, primarily in Hawaii and Guam. The residential portfolio grew by $80 million or 1.9% as last year switch to the mortgage loan officer model continues to show benefits.

In consumer loans, both our indirect auto and credit card portfolios contributed to the growth of $36.1 million or 2.3%. We did see a decline in the C&I portfolio of $103 million. This decline was primarily due to dealer flooring, which fell by over $90 million as we saw dealers carefully managing down inventory levels as well as some increased competition by the captive financing companies.

Looking forward, we still expect loan growth for the full-year to be in the mid single-digit range and our views on the drivers of growth remain unchanged. The CRE and construction pipeline remain strong and we continue to expect high single-digit growth in this area.

We continue to expect mid to high single-digit growth in residential loans. Mid single-digit growth for consumer and low single-digit growth in C&I. We expect that C&I growth will remain challenging as the market continues to be competitive and the pickup in M&A activity presents financing opportunities, but it also drives payoffs.

Turning to Slide 6. Deposit balances increased by $33.1 million to end the quarter as we continue to make progress in improving our deposit mix. We saw good growth in balances of core consumer deposit products, which was partially offset by a decline in public deposits.

Total public deposits were down about $17 million, but we reduce the balance of public time deposits by $95 million. At the end of the quarter, we began diversifying our funding sources to the use of term borrowings.

These borrowings help reduce our exposure to volatile short-term deposits, which will help to protect against future interest-rate increases and improves our deposit pricing flexibility. We expect that we will utilize more term borrowings as we continue to work to improve our mix of assets and liabilities.

Turning to Slide 7, net interest income for the first quarter was $141.4 million, an increase of 1.2% compared to the prior quarter and 7.7% versus the prior year. We are able to generate higher net interest income compared to the prior quarter from a lower average earning asset base as we improved the balance sheet mix by reducing the balance of lower yielding assets and higher cost in deposits.

The net interest margin was 3.18%, a five basis point increase versus the prior quarter. Excluding the impact of a $1.1 million premium amortization adjustment and the difference in quarterly date comp, the NIM would have been approximately 3.13% or 10 basis points higher than the similarly adjusted 3.03% NIM from the prior quarter.

The 10 basis point increase was the result of the increase in rates, which contributed about three basis points. And the improvement in balance sheet mix, which contributed about seven basis points. Looking forward to the third quarter, we anticipate that the margin will increase by a few basis points as a result of the June rate hike.

Turning to Slide 8, noninterest income was $49.8 million about $1.1 million or 2.3% higher than the prior quarter, primarily driven by higher credit and debit card fees. Noninterest expenses were $91.9 million, about $1.3 million or 1.4% higher than the prior quarter.

Noninterest expense during the second quarter included a $700,000 expense related to a decrease in the conversion rate of our Visa Class B shares. Even with this charge, our efficiency ratio in the second quarter was 48% in line with our guidance. As a result, we are maintaining our full-year efficiency ratio outlook of approximately 48%.

With that, I will turn the call over to Ralph to cover asset quality.

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Ralph Mesick
EVP & Chief Risk Officer

Thank you, Erick. We would like to turn your attention to Slide 9. You see that our asset quality was excellent at the end of the quarter. Net charge-offs were $4 million for the quarter. On an annualized basis, this amounts to 13 basis points on average loans and leases. This is two basis points lower than the prior quarter and two basis points higher than the second quarter of 2017.

Total nonperforming assets were $13.8 million or 11 basis points of total loans and leases and other real estate loan. This is up one basis points from the prior quarter and four basis points year-over-year. For the second quarter the provision expense was $6 million, and the allowance for loan and lease losses increased by $2 million to a $140.6 million or 111 basis points of total loans and leases.

Looking ahead we don't anticipate any shift in our overall credit quality. Before I turn the call back over to Bob, I'd like to offer some additional information regarding the volcanic activity on the big Island and our exposures there.

First, it may be helpful to know that the eruption and lava flow is directly impacting a rural area, that has a long history of volcanic activity. It is not densely populated and its outside the major road system that connect the island. The bank's direct exposure in the lava impact zone is roughly $6 million. It is comprised of residential mortgages and each of our borrowers carry insurance against lava hazards.

We started to receive payoffs from insurance claims made and our expectation is that our customers will be indemnified for losses they incur. In the Puna district, which includes the lava impact zone, we have approximately $30 million in outstanding balance. And our total on Hawaiian island is about $760 million, which is only about 6% of total bank balances.

We have not seen a noticeable change in delinquencies on Hawaii Island and given the relatively small size of our exposure on the island, we don't anticipate the need for additional provisioning. We will update this assessment as appropriate.

And now, I'll turn the call back over to Robert.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Thank you, Ralph. Turning to Slide 10, Hawaii's economy continues to perform well in the second quarter, led by strong tourism million real estate sectors, one of the lowest unemployment rates in the Nation. State on Unemployment Rate Was 2.1% in June compared to 4% nationally. The visitor industry remained robust through the first five months of the year. Year-to-date through May visitor arrivals were 4.1 million, up 8.4% versus the same period of last year. And visitor spending was $7.7 billion, an increase of 10.9% versus the same period last year.

Real estate market remains sound. Sales volume for single-family homes were down slightly versus the prior year prices continue to increase. The condominium market remains strong as well as ,well as both sales volume and medium prices were up. Looking forward, the overall look for the economy remains positive.

Before I wrap up, I want to mention a couple of things. Yesterday we announced the appointment of Ravi Mallela, as our CFO and Treasurer. Ravi comes to us from First Republic Bank where he was Senior Vice President, Head of Treasury and Finance. He brings the depth of knowledge in corporate finance expertise, that we will be able to leverage as we move forward with our strategic plans for the bank. We look forward to him officially joining us on September 4.

You also probably saw the 8-K we filed last week regarding the change of our Board of Directors. Thibault Fulconis is no longer with Bank of the West, and as a result resigned as the Director First Hawaiian, Inc. and our subsidiary for First Hawaiian Bank. Mr. Fulconis has been on the Board since the IPO and I would like to thank him for his service. The Board of Directors has appointed Xavier Antiglio to fill the vacancy. Mr. Antiglio is currently the Chief Financial Officer, Bank of the West.

With that, we would be happy to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Dave Rochester of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

Hi. Good morning, guys.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Good morning, Dave.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Hi, Dave.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

On the NIM guidance, I just want to make sure that I had that right. Is that a few bps of expansion versus the 3.13%?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes, it's basically on a normalized basis, a three basis points, yes.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

Okay. So, I mean, from this chart or this table here, it looks like you’re going to end up getting three basis points back as you move in 3Q, because you get pick up an extra data there. So that puts you kind of a 3.16% as the starting point. So would it be potentially 3.16% and then you get three basis points of expansion from the June hike, is that maybe how you can look at it also?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes. It really relates to the June hike, Dave. And we're really sort of talking about our NIM changes really focused on the adjusted NIM.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

Yes, okay.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

So that's kind of how it plays out.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

So you get three more basis points from the extra day and then three bps from the rate hike and that kind of gets you to maybe a 3.19%-ish type of number, Rob?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Well, I think what we want to do is to stick to the normalized adjusted NIM and say from there, that's where we would see the increase, because we will take out any day count in the calculation.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

Got you. Okay. And I noticed you mentioned mix shift benefits in the balance sheet as a driver for the NIM expansion. Do you think you can still get some of those additional benefits there in 3Q?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

It's probably not going to be as dramatic as maybe what we saw in the second quarter. But we’re going to continue to reduce our exposure to the public deposits. Our investment securities are running off in the $250 million range and we’ve been sort of using that sort of fund our loan growth. So we're going to continue to sort of mange or actively manage the balance sheet, so that we can continue to drive improvement in our overall profitability.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

Yes, okay. And just on the deposit market, I know you had a competitive raised rates in your market, and then we learned, you guys responded with increases of your own in June. Has the market been relatively stable since you raised rates and then how you’re thinking about your positioning at this point? Are you thinking that deposit growth could be at least decent in the back half of the year based on how you’re positioned?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

It's still a pretty rational market outside of the public deposits that we’ve been talking about for the last quarters, several quarters. We did increase our rates in a measured way in June as you referenced. And so, we will continue to monitor the situation, but overall it's pretty rational. If you actually look at our deposits and you take out the impact of the reduction in our public deposits, and then in the first quarter we referenced one large corporate customer, reduced their balance by $266 million. We grew deposits excluding those two items about 1.4%. And so we would expect to be able to accomplish that in the second half of the year as well.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

Okay. And one last one, if I could, just on the borrowings you brought in, sorry if I missed it. But what were the terms on those and then as you’re looking to maybe where some more of those and I guess its depending on how strong loan growth is? Are you -- just looking for fixed termed type of borrowings, are you going overnights with the rest of it?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Yes, we took out $200 million as you will see in the balance sheet and it was right towards the end of the quarter. So it really didn't have much of an impact on the numbers. It was two year money at 2.79%.

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David Rochester
Deutsche Bank

Okay. All right. Great. Thanks, guys.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Thanks, Dave.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Thanks, Dave.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Steven Alexopoulos of JPMorgan. Your line is open.

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Steven Alexopoulos
JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Just a follow-up on the deposit conversation. We are seeing quite a few banks in the U.S mainland start paying much higher rates. Are you a corporate customer starting to demand a higher rate? I would imagine that have access to those.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Well, certainly -- Steve, this is Bob. We certainly have been very responsive to the corporate deposits. It's something that we've been talking with them about through the last year. We did increase, I think as we mentioned on our earlier call, our earnings credit rates about a year-ago. We also give them different options, either time CDs, money markets or off-balance sheet options as well.

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Steven Alexopoulos
JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Has it been broad-based, Bob, or it has been one-offs?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

It's been pretty much one-offs. But more and more people are talking about as rates increase.

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Steven Alexopoulos
JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Okay. And what is your expectation that deposit beta has been very reasonable so far. But what’s the expectation for the back half of the year?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Well, beta, for the quarter is roughly been about 20%. We saw 5% -- of five basis point increase in our overall deposit costs on a 25 basis point increase in the fed rate. Steve, honestly it's hard to tell looking out how things are going to shape up. The good news is that the Hawaii consumer market is pretty rational. And I think on the commercial side, as you point out, there's little bit more pressure but all in all we feel pretty good about how we’ve been able to maintain that deposit base in light of the changes going on.

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Steven Alexopoulos
JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Okay. And just one separate question. On the C&I decline, what were -- what was C&I loan growth X dealer, and it follow a trend for extra dealer decline.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes, I don’t have that off the top of my head, but the dealer reduction was about $93 million for the quarter. And just to expand on that a little bit, they are managing their inventory better in light of where car sales are and the fact that interest rates are rising. So it's costing them more to hold the inventory.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Yes, so Steve, this is Bob. As you look at about $103 million decline in C&I for the quarter. And there.93 of the dealer. So it's right about $10 million for the rest of the book decline.

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Steven Alexopoulos
JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Okay, got you. Thank for taking my questions.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Yes, you’re welcome.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ebrahim Poonawala of Bank of America. Your line is open.

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Ebrahim Poonawala
Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hey, guys. Good afternoon.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Hi.

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Ebrahim Poonawala
Bank of America Merrill Lynch

So I’m sorry if I missed this, but just wanted to get a sense of as we think about expensive in terms of -- I know we talked about the 48% efficiency ratio that you reaffirm. But even looking out a little bit, if you had any better understanding of how the expense trajectory was going to play out going into next year, given sort of the full stand alone and vendor contracts, hitting towards the end of the year.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes, hi, Ebrahim. This is Eric. I think you might be referring to the whole public company transition costs. And so our pick at on -- basically through last year, 2017, we had about $11 million of that cost embedded in our cost structure. And then for 2018 we estimate that we were rolling another $3 million, probably about 1.2 to 1.3 in the first half of the year. Thus far the other remain $1.7 million coming in the second half of the year. And again, that’s all accounted for in our 48% efficiency ratio, we are still working through our forecast for 2019. So I’m not prepared to give you any guidance for '19. But we did say when we went public that our transition costs is going to be between 14 million and 17 million. And so you feel that we will still be able to manage within that range. And I think we’ve pretty strong cost management and discipline at the company that we will be able to accomplish that.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Yes. So, Ebrahim, this is Bob. So that wrapping that up. So by the end of the year we expect to have about 14% to 17% in the number. And then you will see some more that in 2019.

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Ebrahim Poonawala
Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Got it. So, I mean, max, I guess. There is maybe about $2 million to $3 million more, then it's next year. Understood.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

It's probably going to be closer to the higher end of the revenue.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

It will be at the higher end. So we don’t have an exact number, but …

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Ebrahim Poonawala
Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Another $3 million next year, okay. I guess, just moving in terms of capital needs obviously the go to CCAR results, Bob. Any clarity around as we move forward. One, if you could just remind us when does the lockup expire for PNB. And any clarity around what flexibility you have to repurchase shares, further if at all there is another secondary for PNB.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Sure. So the lock up expires on August 8, and of course the underwriters can chose the way the lock up but they -- if they were like to -- in our capital plan that we filed as part of the ICU. We did include options for additional capital return to shareholders, much like we had in last year's plan. And that’s why are able to do a share repurchase with the May secondary offering. And so, what the -- we’ve in the plan options that we kind of grew.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Options that we connect glue. Understood. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jacquelynne Bohlen of KBW. Your line is open.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Hi, good morning or good afternoon. You are morning, so good morning everyone, sorry.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Hi. Good morning, Jackie.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

So dealer floorplan, I understand that the higher cost of interest for the dealers and why they’re keeping their inventory tighter. But the release also mentioned heightened competition. Are you seeing that broadly across your floorplans, or is it more state centric?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

It was more here in Hawaii, Jackie, and as just the -- some of the captives are being very aggressive and the -- they have a few more levers to pull as far as with the dealers, given that they’re also under the same umbrella as a manufacture. So that’s where it was coming into play. We haven't seen that in the Mainland, just a couple specific dealers here in Hawaii.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Okay.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

And Jackie, it was more of a small part of this shift, not -- the most of it was due to. Pairing back inventory balances.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Okay. And where does that portfolio stand at the end of the quarter?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes, total dealer flooring was $856 million.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Okay. And that’s down that $93 million from that quarter right?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Down some -- yes, down $93 million, correct.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Okay. And do you -- I guess, how often do you add new dealers to that and is it something that you actively looked at you or just you find opportunities available?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

We are always -- Jackie, this is Bob. We are always actively looking to add other additional plans. But we are very selective in the process. So generally we’ve been adding two or three clients a year.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Okay.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

In the last couple of years.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

And would you say that most of the dealers now to your knowledge have tightened up their inventory already or would there be more to come next quarter?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

I think they are all looking at it. Of course, they’re going to adjust as they see the outlook for sales versus having enough inventory to satisfy the sales outlook they have, but also right in interest rate costs as Eric mentioned is one of the factors they are taking under consideration.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Okay. So it -- though it was more meaningful this quarter as possible like current and next quarter, the decline.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Jackie, it's hard to tell. But the other thing I would add is, we really look at this as a positive shift just given where auto sales have been and where it may be trending going forward. So we don't necessarily look at this as sort of a bad thing.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Okay. So from a credit standpoint, you’re very pleased with that.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Correct.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

That makes sense. And then just one last one for me. The bump up in Credit and Debit card fees, was there any particular driver of that.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

No, as you know, I mean, volume was definitely higher, but as you know there's a lot of moving parts with credit and debit card revenue and rewards and those kinds of things. And so most of it really was driven by just higher volume. And we’ve been seeing higher volume throughout the year.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Just particularly good quarter.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Yes.

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Jacquelynne Bohlen
KBW

Okay, great. Thank you.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Thank you, Jackie.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Jared Shaw of Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.

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Jared Shaw
Wells Fargo Securities

Hi. Thanks. Maybe just circling back on the public deposits. Did you say that the overall total public deposits were only down $17 million or is that $17 million in addition to the 95?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

No, so that -- yes, public deposits was down $17 million in the quarter, but the public time was down $95 million. So what we don’t control -- yes, we don’t controls within their checking account essentially. That's fairly volatile.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes, the checking account -- operating account balances probably on average about $0.5 billion, but they fluctuate between $300 million and $600 million throughout the quarter.

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Jared Shaw
Wells Fargo Securities

So if you step back more from the time deposits and step back from participating in that competitive side, you run the risk of losing some of those operating accounts or do you feel that the core deposit relationship is secure?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

It is actually a contract that we bid on every five years. So we have the operating contract with the entities that we do, and they would continue to deposit with us until that contract comes up for renewal.

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Jared Shaw
Wells Fargo Securities

Okay. Okay. And then looking at the cash flow on the securities book, would you continue to -- would you look to continue some of that to fund loan growth or where would you like to see the securities fall out as a percentage of assets?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes, we're really looking at it from a total balance sheet perspective. Clearly, our preference is always to fund the loan growth through deposit growth. But we are actively managing our total funding base, which includes the borrowings as well as our investment securities portfolio. Right now the securities portfolio, as I mentioned, is running off at about $200 million to $250 million a quarter, and what the runoff is running off at a lower yield than the total portfolio. So we’ve been seeing a couple of basis points uptick as a result of the runoff. But if the deposit growth is not there because we’re shrinking the public time deposits than we will use various sources including the investment securities runoff.

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Jared Shaw
Wells Fargo Securities

Okay. And then could you …

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

We are trying to balance, Jared. We are just trying to balance overall the balance sheet and the growth in our earnings. And so we did -- we were able to reduce our earning assets and still grow net interest income in the quarter, which is what we like to try to do.

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Jared Shaw
Wells Fargo Securities

Okay. And then, could you also just give us an update on the balance assured national credits and what your activity was in the -- in that portfolio during the quarter?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Sure. Our total SNC was $1.5 billion. $1.1 billion of that was on the Mainland. So $1.5 billion total and it went up about $80 million from the end of the prior quarter. $37 million of that was related to the Mainland SNC.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

So we actually grew the SNC book larger in Hawaii over the quarter.

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Jared Shaw
Wells Fargo Securities

Okay, great. Thank you.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Thanks, Jared.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Thanks, Jared.

Operator

Our next question comes from Laurie Hunsicker of Compass Point. Your line is open.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Yes, hi. Thanks. Good morning. Just wondered, I’m just staying with loans, your total dealer floorplan loans, do you have that amount and then the amount that actually resides in California?

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

Yes. So the total, Laurie, is $856 million and the Mainland portion is $580 million.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Okay, great. And then jumping over to the income statement, within your expense line, the $92 million, how much was one-time IPO costs?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

I think we call it the sort of public company transition costs was about $700,000.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Okay. And that compares to $500,000 last quarter, is that correct?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Right, right.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Okay. Okay. And then just to go back to margin, just to go back to some of the questions that I guess Dave was asking you, just so that I get this right, I’m thinking about this, so in the quarter your premium amortization adjustment was negative 1.1 that compares to negative 1.9 in march and then a positive 4.3 in the December quarter. Is that correct?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

I don’t have the fourth quarter information.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

But I guess just -- right. I’m going to …

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

But you’re correct, as it makes to first and second quarter, yes.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

So, I mean, I guess, just thinking about your premium amortization it was in last year with a positive $19 million. So a substantial swing in your margin versus where we sit today. If I'm just stripping out only the premium amortization through linked quarter margin, you were 3.09%, 3.09% and then 3.16%. If we suddenly see a swing back in premium amortization is it unrealistic to think that potentially that could be back to that same level? In other words, will we see it adding into your margin another 10 basis points? Or how should I be thinking about that?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

I guess the best way to really look at it is what we call the adjusted NIM. We basically take the reported NIM adjust it for the day count and the premium amortization. And that's sort of what we measure off of. So if we see all things being equal, no day impact and no premium amortization, our basis, the 3.13% and so our guidance of a few basis points is on top of that.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Got it. Okay. That’s helpful.

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

It's really hard to predict what the premium amortization is going to be.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Sure. Sure. Understand. Okay. And then last question, just going back to deposits, can you talk a little bit about your money markets and just the jump there and then what we could expect to see? And I’m just talking linked quarter. You went from those costing 26 basis points to those costing 40. How should we be thinking about that? Thanks.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Laurie, I don't have the numbers in front of me. Can you repeat that again?

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Yes. So your money markets in the December quarter, which comprise 15% of your deposits, they were costing 26 basis points in December. I'm sorry in March, I apologize, in March they were 26 basis points. And then for the June quarter they’re costing 40. And so it just seem like a bigger increase. Just -- I mean, are there specials you're running? Are we going to continue to see that?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

No, I mean, in general, we're always running special. But basically I think the bigger shift was -- there was a bump up in the public money market rates.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Okay. And just -- and then just remind me, the public money, how much of that falls into the money market?

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes. Its -- well, in the total …

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Robert Harrison
Chairman & CEO

We haven't.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Yes, we haven't disclosed that, Laurie, honestly. We just disclosed the total operating account money and then the public time separately. So I’m not prepared to disclose it further.

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Laurie Hunsicker
Compass Point Research & Trading

Got it. Okay. Thanks. I will leave it there.

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Eric Yeaman
President, COO & Interim CFO

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further question at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Kevin Haseyama for any closing remarks.

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Kevin Haseyama
Strategic Planning & IR Manager

Thank you for joining us on today’s call. We appreciate your interest in First Hawaiian, and enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today’s conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.