Edap Tms SA
NASDAQ:EDAP

Watchlist Manager
Edap Tms SA Logo
Edap Tms SA
NASDAQ:EDAP
Watchlist
Price: 2.7699 USD 2.97% Market Closed
Market Cap: 102.8m USD
Have any thoughts about
Edap Tms SA?
Write Note

Earnings Call Analysis

Q4-2023 Analysis
Edap Tms SA

EDAP TMS: Record Q4 and FY 2023 Financials

EDAP TMS reported a record Q4 revenue of $21.3 million, a significant 31.4% increase compared to the previous year's quarter. For the year 2023, the company achieved an impressive 12.9% increase in revenue, rising to $65.4 million from the previous year. Its HIFU-related revenue saw a sharp rise by 35.6% to $22.3 million owing to more Focal One system placements and robust procedural volumes. Remarkably, HIFU procedures grew by 136%, driven by the expansion of commercial and clinical teams, positive reimbursement developments, and growing patient awareness of noninvasive prostate cancer treatments. Moreover, Medicare payments for Focal One procedures have been increased by 2.6% starting from January 2024, maintaining the treatment's economic attractiveness for hospitals.

Strong Revenue Growth and Record HIFU Sales

EDAP TMS reported stellar operating results for the fourth quarter of 2023, with a record revenue of $21.3 million, seeing a 31.4% jump compared to the previous year's quarter. This surge was attributed to finalized deals that had been in progress and reflected the cycle of capital equipment purchasing. The year 2023 was similarly successful, with a total revenue of $65.4 million, marking a 12.9% increase from the previous year. Specifically, HIFU revenue captured a 35.6% growth due to more Focal One system installations and consistent procedure volumes. Recognition of Focal One's strategic value in attracting and retaining prostate cancer patients has been pivotal in its adoption by leading healthcare facilities.

Expansion in Top-Ranked Hospitals and Growing Procedure Volume

The deployment of Focal One systems extends into premier institutions, including New York University Langone Hospital and Roswell Park, as well as marking its first sale in Connecticut and a presence in Florida. The implementation has been balanced across various geographic regions and types of medical practices. Focal One's growth is further accentuated by a sequential climb in procedures, with a 136% year-over-year increase in the U.S., influenced by expanded commercial and clinical teams and favorable reimbursement rates. The system's integration into seven of the ten top-ranked urology hospitals and advances in cancer diagnostics are driving this robust adoption.

Favorable Reimbursement Environment and Regulatory Updates

Focal One procedures continue to attract hospitals with their economic feasibility, thanks to the APC 6 level Medicare reimbursement of $8,777, a 2.6% advancement from the prior year. This financial appeal coincides with heightened reimbursement in Switzerland and pro-HIFU stances from French health authorities. Internationally, Focal One's attractiveness is exemplified by its recent approval in Taiwan and an FDA breakthrough designation for endometriosis treatment, widening its potential impact beyond prostate cancer.

Strategic Partnerships and Clinical Research Progress

EDAP embarks on a noteworthy collaboration with Mount Sinai to explore HIFU and immunotherapy in treating prostate cancer. The company's dedication is mirrored in its attendance and impactful presence at key scientific meetings. A highlight includes EDAP's engagement with the Cleveland Clinic to share experiences in building a Focal One HIFU program. Additionally, the company continues to advance its technology for treating endometriosis, with Phase III study details expected in the second half of 2024 and findings presented at prestigious medical events.

Record Ultrasound System Sales and International Reach

EDAP's distribution arm realized a milestone with 20 ExactVu Systems sold in a single quarter, attributing the success to a strategic realignment of the U.S. sales force. Such achievements bolster the company's foothold in the prostate cancer market and enhance Focal One's visibility. Furthermore, EDAP's future developments in women's health through its Focal One technology signal potential growth in addressing substantial unmet needs in this domain.

Financial Highlights and Outlook

EDAP achieved unprecedented annual revenue in 2023, amounting to EUR 60.4 million, up by 9.6% from the preceding year. HIFU division spearheaded this rise with a 37.1% boost in revenue. The fourth quarter of 2023 alone raked in EUR 19.6 million, marking a 24.8% upswing from the corresponding quarter the previous year, driven by Focal One and ExactVu sales. Despite a dip in LITHO revenue, the distribution sector leaped forward, supplemented by ExactVu sales. Operating losses widened primarily due to strategic U.S. team expansions and promotion activities. A net loss of EUR 5 million reflected a stable position compared to the prior year with a robust ending inventory, which is anticipated to convert into revenues in the first half of 2024. The company maintains careful cash flow management while fostering a balance between investment and business growth.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q4

from 0
Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the EDAP TMS Fourth Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. John Fraunces of Lifesci Advisors. Thank you. You may begin.

J
John Fraunces

Good morning. Thank you for joining us for the EDAP TMS Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2023 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. Joining me on today's call are Ryan Rhodes, Chief Executive Officer; Ken Mobeck, Chief Financial Officer; and Francois Dietsch, Chief Accounting Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that management's remarks today may contain forward-looking statements which include statements regarding the company's growth and expansion plans. Such statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in such forward-looking statements. Factors that may cause such a difference include, but are not limited to, those described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

I would now like to turn the call over to EDAP's Chief Executive Officer, Ryan Rhodes. Ryan?

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased to report strong operating results for the fourth quarter, capping a highly successful year, in which we established Focal One robotic HIFU as one of the fastest-growing treatment options in the management of prostate cancer. EDAP reported record fourth quarter 2023 total revenue in U.S. dollars of $21.3 million an increase of 31.4% over the fourth quarter of 2022. Many of the potential deals that had reached an advanced stage and discussion in the third quarter eventually closed in the fourth quarter, which reflects the seasonality of the capital equipment purchasing cycle. More importantly, we believe that the final decision in selecting Focal One was based on a growing recognition amongst hospitals that the Focal One robotic technology platform represents a strategic capital investment to help maintain and attract prostate cancer patients to their facilities.

For the full year 2023, EDAP reported record revenues in U.S. dollars of $65.4 million, an increase of 12.9% over 2022. Full year HIFU revenue came in at $22.3 million, an increase of 35.6% over full year 2022, which again reflects an increased number of Focal One system placements and continued strong procedure volumes year-over-year. In the fourth quarter of 2023, we placed quarterly record of 12 Focal One systems. Demand for Focal One continues to grow in a very balanced manner with placements made in the U.S. and outside the U.S. and across both academic and community urologists. We also experienced some notable wins during the quarter, which included a Focal One sale to New York University Langone Hospital which is ranked #3 in urology hospitals in the U.S. News & World Report.

According to the same report, Focal One is now in 7 of the 10 best hospitals for urology and 6 of the 10 best hospitals for cancer. We also sold the Focal One system to Roswell Park is included amongst the select with a prestigious National Cancer Institute-designated hospitals in the United States and also offers one of the few select uro-oncology fellowship programs approved by the Society of Urologic Oncology. Additional capital sales included Hartford HealthCare Hospital in Connecticut, which is the first system placement in the state of Connecticut, and Baptist Health Regional Hospital, a leading hospital located in Boca Raton, Florida. I would now like to briefly touch on the positive trends we are seeing with respect to Focal One HIFU procedure growth in the U.S., which represents one of the most important metrics for the growth of our business.

The fourth quarter of 2023 marked the fifth consecutive quarter of sequential procedure growth and on a year-over-year basis, the number of U.S. Focal One HIFU procedures grew an impressive 136%. We believe procedure growth is being driven by the investments that we continue to make in expanding our commercial and clinical teams along with positive reimbursement for HIFU and more patients seeking out effective noninvasive treatment options for the management of prostate cancer. Focal One is enabling urologists to offer select patients in noninvasive, nonsurgical and radiation-free treatment solution with excellent oncologic control. Along with physician demand, we also believe that more men were diagnosed with prostate cancer continue to seek out treatment options that target the cancer with the potential for fewer patient side effects that negatively impact quality of life.

As the number of Focal One procedures continues to grow, we believe that more men are becoming aware of this new treatment option and this is likely to accelerate ongoing patient-driven demand. We also believe that recent and ongoing investments in both cancer diagnostics and imaging technology should lead to improved patient risk stratification, which in turn, will help identify more patients who could benefit from Focal One robotic HIFU. Demand is also being driven by reimbursement. At the APC 6 level reimbursement, it is economically attractive for hospitals to make the investment into a Focal One program, and we think this is providing another meaningful driver for overall demand. In a moment, a more detailed update on our progress with respect to reimbursement. Finally, the strategic investments we made in our regional clinical teams are also helping to drive demand for hospital-based Focal One programs.

Over time, we have carefully selected outstanding and accomplished professionals who possess the experience in both building significant relationships as well as launching successful Focal One programs. These investments are a key component to our continued growth and success. I would also like to mention the appointment of Dr. Lance Wilsey to our Board of Directors in December. Dr. Wilsey is a trained urologist and researcher who has over 30 years of private and public board experience focused in the areas of cancer diagnostics and therapeutics. He completed a surgical and urology training at the Massachusetts General Hospital and additional postgraduate training in the Harvard University, Steele Labs and the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute.

Dr. Wilsey has already made significant contributions to our company, and we are very excited to have him as both an EDAP Board member and a trusted adviser as we move forward. Now I would like to spend some time discussing the progress we have made with respect to reimbursement. As a reminder, the CMS final rule for the hospital outpatient prospective payment system and physician fee scheduled for 2024 was released in November of 2023. The hospital payment for a Focal One procedure was maintained as a urology ambulatory payment classification or APC Level 6 procedure. This results in a national average Medicare payment of $8,777, a 2.6% increase over 2023. This new rate became effective on January 1, 2024. I would also like to note that as hospitals look to adopt focal therapy, it is clear that Focal One is a desirable option for them to invest in as the Focal One robotic HIFU platform provides a precise and efficient treatment option as compared to older or MRI-based technologies that typically require higher staffing levels and that absorb more hospital resources.

I would like to also note that we are already seeing the effects from improved reimbursement in Switzerland. In July of 2023, we announced reimbursement approval in Switzerland for the use of high-intensity focused ultrasound for the treatment of prostate cancer. With this higher reimbursement now in place, I am pleased to report that we sold a Focal One system to [indiscernible] Clinic located in the city of [indiscernible] in the fourth quarter, which was a direct result of securing reimbursement approval. Finally, in December, we announced that the French National Authority for Health or HAS, released a favorable recommendation for the reimbursement of HIFU therapy for the treatment of prostate cancer. More specifically, the favorable opinion relates to HIFU as a primary treatment for intermediate-risk localized prostate cancer as well as a salvage option after failed radiation therapy.

A positive opinion from HAS is an important milestone along the pathway for securing final reimbursement in France. Based on this positive opinion, the French social security authorities can now use this recommendation for including HIFU procedures and its next review cycle to determine the procedure's reimbursement rate and the timing for when such reimbursement would go into effect. I will now provide an update on recent regulatory actions. In December, the Taiwan health authorities approved Focal One for the treatment of prostate cancer. With this positive news, the EDAP's Southeast Asia local team secured the first sale of Focal One through its Taiwanese distribution partner. Taiwan represents an attractive market for Focal One, and we expect this region to contribute to the ongoing growth of our international business over time.

On March 4, we announced that the FDA granted our Focal One robotic HIFU system Breakthrough Device designation for the treatment of deep-infiltrating endometriosis. Receiving Breakthrough Device designation from the FDA is not only a significant milestone for our company, but also reflects the FDA's recognition that deep-infiltrating endometriosis remains a significant unmet medical need in women's health care today with fewer treatment alternatives. The designation also reflects our continued commitment to expand the use of Focal One robotic HIFU technology to treat other medical conditions beyond prostate disease. By expanding our company's proprietary robotic HIFU technology, we aim to provide women with a safe and effective treatment option that is significantly less invasive and less more of it than conventional surgical approaches.

As a reminder, our ongoing Phase III study is a comparative randomized double-blind clinical trial with the primary objective of evaluating acute pelvic pain levels in 60 patients. On February 1, we announced the completion of enrollment of the Phase III study. Considering the fact that the Phase III study included a sham-controlled arm, we are highly encouraged by the robust pace of enrollment, which we believe reflects a growing interest among patients and physicians to explore alternative treatment modalities beyond surgery. We expect to announce results from the Phase III study in the second half of 2024. In November, we announced that EDAP entered into a clinical research collaboration with the prestigious Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, Department of Urology in New York.

The purpose of this collaboration is to accelerate the understanding of the role of immunotherapy treatment in conjunction with high-intensity focused ultrasound in patients with prostate cancer. Focal therapy using HIFU delivered precise ablative energy to a targeted prostate lesion. Existing research shows HIFU treatment increases the body's immune response. More specifically, EDAP and Mount Sinai will study whether HIFU in combination with immunotherapy can generate measurable oncologic results in patients with prostate cancer. The research is being supervised by an internationally recognized leader in the field, Professor Ashutosh Tewari, Chairman of the Department of Urology at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai Health System. I'll now briefly touch on the performance of our distribution business.

In the fourth quarter, we sold 20 ExactVu Systems, which is a quarterly record for system sales. The ExactVu micro ultrasound platform enables urologists to perform precise targeted biopsies of the prostate within a standard urological workflow. We believe the U.S. sales force realignment that went into effect several months ago, the supported ExactVu is now having a positive effect on demand and the results in the fourth quarter reflect this progress. We also believe that the success of ExactVu offering will strengthen our position in the prostate cancer market and translate into greater visibility for the Focal One platform and help drive additional placements.

EDAP was very active through the quarter in attending several important scientific meetings. Focal One was a featured leading technology at the Focal 2023 meeting in Chicago. This meeting was attended by several hundred leading urologists from across the United States who have a keen and active growing interest in advancing Focal therapy for the treatment and management of prostate cancer. Of note, Dr. Ruben Olivares from the Cleveland Clinic, who had performed approximately 500 Focal One HIFU procedures, presented a 1-hour presentation titled Initiating a Focal HIFU Program based on Cleveland Clinic's successful experience in building a focal therapy program centered around the Focal One technology. Cleveland Clinic is recognized as one of the very top leading academic centers amongst leading urology hospitals in the United States.

Additionally, Focal One had a strong presence at the 24th Annual Meeting of the Society of Urologic Oncology, which was held from November 28 to December 1 in Washington, D.C. The SUO is one of the largest gatherings of urologists who focus exclusively on the treatment of urologic cancers. EDAP's presence at the meeting was noteworthy as we were busy conducting numerous physician hands on test drives, highlighting the Focal One robotic technology. The growing interest in our Focal One HIFU technology is clearly evident at these very important meetings. We are looking forward to attending the upcoming European Association of Urology meeting taking place next week in Paris, France; and the American Urology Association meeting taking place in May in San Antonio, Texas. These are the 2 largest urology-focused conferences in the world, and we expect to have our largest presence ever at both of these highly influential global medical meetings.

With respect to advancing the development of our Focal One technology for the management and treatment of endometriosis, Professor Gil Dubernard presented results from the Phase II multicentric study of robotic HIFU treatment of rectal endometriosis using Focal One on October 2 in a plenary session at the European Society for Gynecological Endoscopy Annual Congress. The data was also selected as an oral presentation at the American Association of Gynecological Laparoscopists meeting in November which is one of the largest global meetings focused on gynecological surgery with over 3,000 attendees. As I mentioned earlier, we are very excited about the progress we are making in this area of women's health care which provides EDAP with the opportunity and substantial unmet need, and we expect results from our ongoing endometriosis Phase III study in the second half of 2024.

I will now turn the call over to Ken to review our financial results for the fourth quarter.

K
Ken Mobeck
executive

Thanks, Ryan, and good morning, everyone. I will briefly review full year 2023 performance before getting into greater detail on our fourth quarter results. Please note that all figures except for percentages are in euros. For conversion purposes, our average euro-dollar exchange rate was 1.0846 for the fourth quarter of 2023. EDAP set a record for calendar year revenue in 2023. Total revenue for the full year was EUR 60.4 million, an increase of 9.6% as compared to total revenue of EUR 55.1 million for the full year 2022. The increase in revenue was due to higher sales of Focal One and ExactVu units versus the prior year. Notably, the HIFU division revenue grew 37.1% year-over-year reflecting both an increased number of Focal One sales and procedure volumes. With respect to U.S. Focal One procedures, the number of procedures increased 118% year-over-year.

Now I will review our fourth quarter results. Total revenue for the fourth quarter of 2023 was also a quarterly record, coming in at EUR 19.6 million, an increase of 24.8% as compared to total revenue of EUR 15.7 million for the same period of 2022. The increase in revenue was due to higher sales of Focal One and ExactVu units versus the prior year period. Looking at revenue by division. Total revenue HIFU business for the fourth quarter of 2023 was EUR 7.5 million as compared to EUR 5.4 million for the fourth quarter of 2022. The increase was driven by 10 Focal One systems sold in the fourth quarter versus 7 systems sold in the fourth quarter of 2022. We also experienced 88.6% year-over-year growth in worldwide disposable base revenues, reflecting strong procedure growth during the quarter.

Total revenue in the LITHO business for the fourth quarter of 2023 was EUR 2.3 million as compared to EUR 3.6 million for the fourth quarter of 2022. The decrease in LITHO revenue was driven by 3 lithotripsy units sold in the fourth quarter as compared to 11 units sold in the fourth quarter of 2022. Total revenue in the distribution business for the fourth quarter was EUR 9.9 million as compared to EUR 6.7 million for the fourth quarter of 2022. The increase in Distribution revenue was driven primarily by 20 ExactVu units sold during the fourth quarter as compared to 11 sold during the fourth quarter of 2022. Gross profit for the fourth quarter of 2023 was EUR 8.6 million compared to EUR 7.2 million for the year-ago period. Gross profit margin on net sales was 43.7% in the fourth quarter of 2023 compared to 45.9% in the year-ago period.

The decrease in gross profit margin year-over-year was primarily due to 2 main factors: higher level of distribution price revenues which have a lower gross margin and our continued investments in our U.S. field service and clinical application organizations to further support HIFU adoption and long-term revenue growth. Operating expenses were EUR 12 million for the fourth quarter compared to EUR 8.8 million for the same period in 2022. The increase in operating expenses was primarily due to the continued build-out of the U.S. team and commercial infrastructure, variable compensation and increased marketing activities. Operating loss during the fourth quarter was EUR 3.5 million compared to an operating loss of EUR 1.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2022. Excluding the impact of noncash share-based compensation, operating loss for the fourth quarter would have been EUR 1.8 million compared to an operating loss of EUR 0.8 million in Q4 of 2022.

Net loss for the fourth quarter of 2023 was EUR 5 million or EUR 0.14 per diluted share as compared to net loss of EUR 5.1 million or EUR 0.14 per diluted share in the year-ago period. Our ending inventory was EUR 15.1 million in the fourth quarter as compared to EUR 11.8 million at the end of the fourth quarter of 2022. Most of the growth in inventory was due to Focal One and ExactVu systems that we plan to revenue in the first half of 2024. Total cash and cash equivalents at the end of the fourth quarter was EUR 43.5 million as compared to EUR 47.7 million at the end of the third quarter in 2023. This EUR 4.2 million cash decrease was driven primarily by the cash used in operating activities and capital expenditures. We continue to monitor our cash flow closely, prudently balancing the need to invest and grow our business. Those are our key financial highlights for the fourth quarter of 2023.

And with that, I would like to turn the call back to Ryan.

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Thanks, Ken. In summary, we are pleased with our fourth quarter and full year 2023 performance. We are excited about the progress we expect to make throughout 2024. It is clear that the ongoing advances in both testing and diagnosis of prostate cancer has led to improvements in the ability to better risk ratify patients with their disease. With these advances, we believe the benefits of focal therapy, along with the therapeutic utility afforded by Focal One robotic HIFU allows patients another treatment option for management of their cancer without the side effect of radical therapy. Our technology is enabling patients to access a noninvasive, nonsurgical procedure that provides excellent oncologic control, coupled with the potential for improved outcomes with respect to maintaining sexual function and urinary continence. Looking ahead, we expect our momentum to continue as the number of Focal One HIFU placements and procedures continue to grow.

With that, I will now turn the call back over to the operator for questions. Operator?

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Sarcone with Jefferies.

M
Michael Sarcone
analyst

Just to start, do you think you can -- we're basically through first quarter this year. Can you talk about or give us any color on how activity has trended so far through this year and what the sales funnel looks like?

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Yes, Michael, well, again, coming off of 2023, we've rolled into 2024. And as noted, we continue to build our pipeline and continue to see growth and adoption both obviously in the U.S. and outside the U.S. We can't really comment on anything too much beyond that, that I'd say we have good market momentum, a lot of great activity in play. And again, we're looking to continue to drive top line growth, top line sales and procedure adoption as referenced. So again, we're excited. I know we're almost through first quarter, but we continue to make notable progress and I think we're excited for the rest of the year.

M
Michael Sarcone
analyst

All right. And then just on the capital equipment environment, you were pretty clear talking about the last time we got an update. No real change, but a lot of the 4Q systems were just a result of the normal sales process running course. Could you just give us an update on what you're seeing in terms of hospitals, appetite for capital equipment?

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Yes. So I would say there's certainly an appetite and interest for disruptive capital equipment that is strategic in nature for the hospital. And as we've stated before, we sell a clinically necessary strategic revenue enhancing service line in a very notable cancer space, prostate cancer. So again, some hospitals will see that opportunity and seize on it quickly in the beginning. Others will take more time to go through their process, looking at economics and looking at the timing of making the investment. We think we've got a very strong story. And we know focal therapy has never been more prominent in the treatment of prostate cancer. And as noted, we have a technology with Focal One to lead in the category. However, we do see hospitals obviously taking time to work through their processes and we lead with a cash sale, notably. And again, we work closely with them and alongside of them as they do pro forma analysis and other.

And we believe we've got a really great story for them and focal therapy is in play today. So other than that, the cycle times will vary by hospital, by region, type of hospital, sometimes looking academic versus community, but yes, I would just say hospitals are definitely spending more time to look and differentiate between operational capital expenses versus strategic capital investments. And we stay close with them in terms of interpreting our story back to them, and we see that as part of our strategy as we look out to the rest of 2024 and beyond.

M
Michael Sarcone
analyst

Okay. Great. I'll just squeeze one more in. When you and Ken think about the business and the outlook, you're not providing guidance today. Where do you want to be in terms of the position of the business before you get more comfortable providing full year guidance?

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Yes, Michael. I think, again, we're early in the adoption curve for an exciting category. And again, I think when we see more kind of predictability in some of the key metrics, I think we'll be a lot more comfortable of being able to provide some type of outward guidance. I think today, again, we're early in the market here, and that's a time where there is some seasonality, call it, and some lumpiness in terms of when they buy capital, yes, no, which quarter? Our pipeline remains strong. We continue to grow procedures and I think we'll just have to wait a little longer until we're comfortable.

K
Ken Mobeck
executive

Yes. Michael, and just a follow-up because we talk about this all the time, and we look back on last year's performance and the challenging environment we had in Q3, which we made up in Q4, that's just a good example of why we just need more time to really learn this business to continue to invest and move up the adoption curve, as Ryan described, because that's going to give us what we need to provide you guys better visibility in the business going forward.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Frank Takkinen with Lake Street Capital Markets.

F
Frank Takkinen
analyst

Congrats on the progress. And I'm going to also start with one, hopefully an expectation that the risk of asking too much. But around placements, I think we're coming off a year where we did about 25 systems, if I'm looking at it correctly. 2022, I think, was high teens. So obviously, that's a good growth figure. One piece of commentary you did provide was definitely your anticipation to continue to grow. So maybe not thinking about it from a quarter-to-quarter basis, but thinking on it from a year-to-year basis, my assumption is relatively robust growth in the system placement numbers. Obviously, there's moving pieces between a sale and a placement. But is that a fair assumption that we should see a fair growth number in the system placement expectation for 2024?

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Yes. Frank, yes, absolutely. I mean, clearly, our focus is selling systems. We do place systems as notably. And most of the time, those are driven by the fact that hospitals are working towards their budget cycle and they want to start the program and they don't want to delay it, but they're using it as an opportunity for a bridge to purchase or an operational lease with the goal of bridge to purchase. So again, we would expect growth as reference. We continue to activate more hospitals in our pipeline and we continue to look at the procedure adoption, which I think is also fueling some of the growth as noted. And again, we're early in the market, but certainly excited for a good performance here in 2024.

F
Frank Takkinen
analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe shifting over to some general commentary around the onboarding process and utilization expectations. My assumption is some of these systems go in and then there's probably process of weeks, months or maybe quarters until that your treating urologist is comfortable with the system. Maybe walk through the onboarding process, how long that typically takes and what kind of utilization metrics we can get to at different goalposts, maybe 3 months, 6 months, 12 months?

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Yes. So the onboarding process, I'd say, first of all, we get better and better at this process. And I think part of that is we understand better how to launch the programs and we sell programs. We also see hospitals starting to book patients sooner for treatment, even in advance of them actually purchasing or finalizing the purchase of the system. So that helps us ramp quicker. We've got a training team and apps team that helps on the onboarding and of course, our direct clinical sales team, they take an active role in that process. I think how we do it, how we deliver it, has become more efficient. We'll continue to work on that. We do track metrics around this.

I think it's hard to give you a number of procedures in a period of time, but clearly, the first few months tend to ramp at a different pace than the latter months because as they're looking for patients, and patients can come into that favorable intermediate risk category. They may be starting their program with patients that are -- that have failed radiotherapy. So they may be looking at a different type of patient. But all in all, I think they -- we've gotten better at the process. There is an onboarding metrics that we kind of share internally. We don't share procedure numbers today outside the company. But I think we're excited with the momentum and getting better at the onboarding process and shortening the cycle times from the period when they get the technology into their facility and they start doing cases.

And again, I think as we get better as a company, those onboarding processes improved again over and over. So yes, and that's what we can share with you. We're excited about how we do it today, but we're always looking for improvement to make that process better and better.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ramakanth, Swayampakula with H.C. Wainwright.

S
Swayampakula Ramakanth
analyst

Ryan, I know you don't give the number of procedures. But just want to get a qualitative commentary from you in terms of how you see the flow in terms of procedures once you have the new reimbursement in place starting from January 1 over the last 3 months? And also, in terms of placements, do you see that the number of leads increasing post January 1 with the new reimbursement in place?

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Yes. So I think we had shared on the call in -- RK -- one of the things that we looked at, obviously, is the reimbursement continued on in January. We maintained an APC Level 6 status within CMS. There was a little increase to a couple of hundred dollars at the facility level. That's always good. I mean I think for the hospitals, again, this is all about providing patient access. So when we work with those hospitals, which is common, we look at the pro forma analysis, look at reimbursement, which may be very specific to their area. As you know, there's a calculation, as I referenced in my comments, that there's an average number, but it may be higher. It's based on a facility point of care because that takes into consideration the wage labor index for that facility. That's an average number I showed. So the reimbursement has been very favorable.

That really helps when hospitals are looking to make the investment. They obviously want to look at the economics because we are a new service line, and we fare well in that process. And so I think, again, maintaining our APC Level 6, effective January 1, helps us to continue on the pathway we're on. Hospitals make continued investments. They look at the technology, they look at the opportunity to move first in the market as it relates to focal therapy and many hospitals want to take advantage of the first mover in their markets. So not unlike other technologies or other service lines when they're early in their adoption.

In terms of procedure impact, again, I think it certainly helps on the procedure side. But I think more importantly, as we place more and more systems, we create a higher level of patient awareness, which should lead to more or increased patient demand. And if we can continue on that pathway, our plan, obviously, is to do more procedures per system to each facility performing more procedures as we ramp these programs and thus, over time, creating more demand in the market for other hospitals to make the necessary investment in starting a Focal One program.

S
Swayampakula Ramakanth
analyst

You talked about how the Swiss reimbursement has helped get a sale in Switzerland. And you're expecting similar things to happen in France. Are there any other geographies that could also help increase placement throughout '24? And then a question on endometriosis. I understand the data is going to be coming out in '24 in the second half. In terms of filing, what else needs to be done? And potentially, when could you file on this?

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

Yes. So RK, a couple [indiscernible] me trying to answer those questions. So when you first talked about markets, we received reimbursement in Switzerland July of last year. So the [indiscernible] placement [indiscernible] Clinic was a notable win coming off reimbursement. We see more opportunity in Switzerland. We have placements in other hospitals in Switzerland. So we want to take advantage of that. As far as France, and I would say another market as noted, is the HAS recommendation from the French authorities, they are going through their review process to come back. In reference to reimbursement, we hope to hear something sometime later this year. We're not sure yet. We're standing by as noted. And so it's going to be important for us to recognize what that reimbursement is and activate on that. Changing over to endometriosis.

Again, the study data as noted from the Phase III study, we completed patient enrollment at the end of January. We made a notable press release regarding that. We expect to have data to share in the second half of this year as we discussed. But more importantly, I think as you were talking towards the end about our Breakthrough designation with the FDA, that allows us the ability to move faster in the conversations back and forth with the FDA. So our goal there is looking at a data plan that's acceptable per the standards of the FDA and be able to work as quickly as we can through that process. I cannot give a time line right now because we're so early in the process. But the good news is we have a fast track process in place to be able to interact with the FDA through getting a clearance at some near future date. So again, we'll continue to provide updates on an ongoing basis as we get closer to some milestones in receiving that clearance. And that's kind of where we are.

Operator

At this time, I'm showing no other questions. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Rhodes for final comments.

R
Ryan Rhodes
executive

I want to again thank everyone for joining us on today's call. We look forward to providing another update for everyone on our first quarter 2024 results in May. Again, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

All Transcripts

Back to Top