Krispy Kreme Inc

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Earnings Call Analysis

Healthy Growth and Strong 2024 Outlook

In 2023, the company achieved 12.2% organic growth and an 11% increase in adjusted EBITDA, successfully expanding margins. Noteworthy was the growth across all segments, particularly 13.7% organic revenue growth in the U.S. segment during Q4, bolstered by a strong holiday season and e-commerce. Internationally, organic revenue grew 9%, with substantial contributions from Mexico and strong launches in new markets like Ecuador and France. Despite higher costs and interest rates, the company managed leverage effectively, ending with a leverage ratio of 4.1x and a healthy balance sheet. Looking ahead to 2024, they anticipate 5%-7% net revenue growth, 6%-8% organic growth, 8%-11% adjusted EBITDA growth, and adjusted earnings per share of $0.27-$0.31.

Doubling Down on Doughnuts: Krispy Kreme's strategy to Expand and Innovate

Welcomed with a buoyant 'Good morning' on their earnings call, Krispy Kreme's executives set the stage for a tale of strategic growth and operational efficiency. CEO Josh Charlesworth outlined a vision teeming with fresh, premium doughnuts reaching delighted consumers in new markets and channels. These ambitions translated into a hearty 13.2% organic revenue growth in Q4, exceeding expectations and icing the year with a 12.2% growth overall.

Sweet Success: Productivity gains and EBITDA Margin boost

The tasty outcome of Krispy Kreme’s expansion strategy was not just evident in revenue uplift but also in well-baked efficiency gains. The company’s hub and spoke operating model, essentially a doughnut-making ecosystem, rose to the occasion. This enabled a 40 basis point improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin to 14.2% in Q4, reflecting a meticulous focus on scaling operations and enhancing profitability.

Global Expansion: More Stores, More Countries

Krispy Kreme buzzed with global energy, opening stores in countries like Ecuador and France, and claiming over 40 billion media impressions. The narrative was clear: by rolling out more points of access—a whopping 743 in Q4—and dipping into the world of e-commerce, which itself grew over 25%, Krispy Kreme was not just expanding; it was responding to a sweet craving for its iconic glazed doughnuts across the planet.

Financial Fortitude: A Balanced Recipe for Growth

CFO Jeremiah Ashukian stirred the fiscal pot with a concoction of disciplined capital management and robust balance sheet. With an adjusted EPS of $0.27 for 2023, despite facing higher expenses and interest rates, the financial health of Krispy Kreme appeared resilient. They wisely paid down vendor financing by approximately $82 million, an endeavor that’s set to add a delectable $3 to $5 million sprinkle to adjusted EBITDA from mid-2024.

Looking Ahead: 2024 Projections and EPS Expectations

As sights are set on 2024, Krispy Kreme dishes out appetizing guidance: net revenue growth of 5% to 7%, organic revenue growth of 6% to 8%, and an 8% to 11% uptick in adjusted EBITDA. Investors can savor the prospect of adjusted diluted EPS between $0.27 and $0.31, signaling a company confident in its recipe for success and generous with its servings to stakeholders.

Earnings Call Transcript 2023-Q4

[Operator]

Thanks for standing by. My name is [ Mandeep ], and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Krispy Kreme Fourth Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]I would now like to turn the call over to Ms. Stephanie Daukus, Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Daukus, please go ahead.

[Stephanie Daukus, executive]

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Krispy Kreme's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Call. Thank you for joining us today. Our earnings release and associated earnings presentation, which we will be referencing during the call, are available on our Investor Relations website at investors.krispykreme.com.Joining me on the call this morning are Josh Charlesworth, Chief Executive Officer; and Jeremiah Ashukian, Chief Financial Officer. After prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session.Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call contains forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities and Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements of expectations, future events, or future financial performance.Forward-looking statements involve a number of inherent risks and uncertainties, and we caution investors that these risks could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward-looking statements. These factors and other risks and uncertainties are described in detail in the company's Form 10-K filed with the SEC for the year ended January 1, 2023, and in the other filings we make from time to time with the SEC. Forward-looking statements made today are only as of today. The company assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as may be required by law.Additionally, today's call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation between non-GAAP financial measures and our closest comparable GAAP measures can be found in our fourth quarter 2023 earnings press release and Form 8-K filed today with the SEC and is also available at our investors.krispykreme.com website.With that, I'll turn the call over to Josh.

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm so excited for what is ahead of us at Krispy Kreme. Our strategy is clear, to make our fresh doughnuts available in more places and keep reminding people of the joy that is Krispy Kreme, not just to eat, but to share and give to others. We made great progress on this in 2023 with strong consumer demand and increased access to our fresh doughnuts in both existing and new markets around the world. We also improved profitability as we [ grew ], demonstrating the productivity benefits of our unique hub and spoke operating model.As we move forward in 2024, we will continue to offer new and exciting specialty premium doughnuts, upgrade our digital commerce capabilities, and expand the availability of our doughnuts around the world, including in our newer sales channels like [ club ] stores and quick service restaurants. We will also increase our efforts to modernize the making and moving of doughnuts to ensure we deliver high-quality, profitable growth.Let me summarize today's key messages. We continued to deliver double-digit organic revenue growth with all markets and channels growing sales. We expanded profit margins by leveraging existing production hubs to support our growth, especially in the U.S., where operating leverage was strongest.Our ongoing strategy is to scale the business efficiently by adding more fresh points of access. There are now more than 14,100 places where you can buy our melt-in-your-mouth, fresh doughnuts in 39 countries. Our focus on operating excellence means that we are building both a bigger and better Krispy Kreme business.And finally, we are introducing our 2024 outlook with organic growth expected to translate into adjusted EBITDA expansion, reflecting our intent to drive increasingly profitable growth.We delivered 13.2% organic revenue growth in the fourth quarter, ahead of our guide and 12.2% organic revenue growth for the full year. This performance reflected strong consumer demand with people choosing to celebrate Halloween, Thanksgiving, and the holiday season with premiums priced specialty doughnuts from Krispy Kreme, including a Scooby-Doo dozen and our first-ever Elf doughnut collection, celebrating the 20th anniversary of the family favorite holiday movie.Tie-ins like this helped create tremendous excitement for the brand in 2023, and we finished the year with over 40 billion media impressions, reflecting how well Krispy Kreme's fresh and innovative doughnuts resonated with the consumer.E-commerce also continues to play a bigger role within our business, growing over 25% in the fourth quarter, driven by new loyalty members, which now total over 15 million as well as operational improvements to our website, app, and in-shop availability.Organic growth was also driven by adding new points of access, which increased by 743, a much stronger fourth quarter expansion than in prior years, reflecting the growing demand from existing and new partners who want to make everybody's favorite fresh doughnuts available to their customers. The same goes for new countries with Krispy Kreme opening in Ecuador and France in the fourth quarter to add to Jamaica, Kazakhstan, Switzerland, Chile, and Costa Rica, which were all added earlier in the year.The continued expansion of our hub and spoke model delivered productivity growth and increased profitability in the fourth quarter, with adjusted EBITDA margin improving 40 basis points to 14.2%. The hub and spoke model is becoming more productive as we add more points of access without adding significantly more production hubs. We ended 2023 with 2,300 more points of access than in 2022, mostly through [ Delivered ] Fresh Daily displays in grocery and convenience stores, and we did this whilst adding net 1 production hub.The resulting increased utilization of our production hubs, most of which can still make twice as many doughnuts as they do today, made them more efficient and profitable. We also completed the optimization of our production hubs without spokes in 2023, closing legacy doughnut shops which were not well suited to the strategy.Our fourth quarter and full year results exemplify the success and power of our hub and spoke model. And in 2024, I look forward to us becoming a bigger and better Krispy Kreme by continuously improving our business operations as we grow. And the [ number one ] reason why someone may not buy a Krispy Kreme doughnut continues to be access and convenience with more than 2 million locations where we couldn't daily sell Krispy Kreme, at least in the markets we have targeted. The opportunity to expand availability is big.We have previously shared our long-term goal of opening at least 75,000 points of access around the world, yet this still represents less than 3% of the total addressable market, and we are adding new customers all the time, such as Costco in international markets and McDonald's in the U.S., where we have been conducting an extended test in Kentucky for much of 2023.Our relationship with McDonald's remains strong with discussions ongoing about further expansion, and we look forward to providing updates on our quick service restaurant plans through 2024. We also expect to launch Krispy Kreme in 3 to 5 new countries in 2024 with several priority markets identified in Europe as well as Brazil, where we just announced an exciting new partnership with the convenience store chain, AmPm.We have perfected the art of making our original glazed doughnut over the last 87 years and bringing joy to our consumers across the world, yet there remains the opportunity to modernize the way we make and move our doughnuts, bringing efficiency to the process whilst maintaining consistent high quality and service levels. We have started 2024 by making changes to our global leadership team to reflect these opportunities.And Angela Yochem, we are adding a new Chief Information Officer with deep digital technology experience across multiple industries. Our Global Supply Chain Leader, Sherif Riad, formerly Mondelez, has stepped into the team, as has our U.S. business leader, Javier Rancano, who has extensive QSR operations experience.As a leadership team, we are focused on quality, fresh doughnuts in every channel every day, expanding the use of automated doughnut making and processing and continuously improving our doughnut delivery capabilities as we support more and more points of access.An example of this is a pilot we are just starting on select routes in L.A. and D.C. to deliver our fresh doughnuts through a third-party logistics provider, still using dedicated Krispy Kreme trucks and drivers. As we focus on our core strategy of producing, selling, and distributing fresh doughnuts daily, we continue our strategic [ review ] in some new cookies.With that, I will turn it over to Jeremiah to give further insight on our financial performance and provide an outlook for 2024.

[Jeremiah Ashukian, executive]

Thanks, Josh, and good morning, everyone. As Josh mentioned, we reported strong double-digit fourth quarter organic growth and improved profitability for the year, demonstrating the productivity benefits of our hub and spoke model. In the fourth quarter, we grew double-digit on both the top and bottom line on a percentage basis, resulting in adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of 40 basis points year-over-year to 14.2%. We saw growth in all our markets, driven by high-impact global brand activations and seasonal offerings, increased points of access and premiumization efforts.Adjusted EBITDA grew 14.7%, outpacing our revenue growth for the second consecutive quarter as we continue to realize cost efficiencies across the global business through both productivity efforts, increased utilization of our hubs.For the full year, the business performed largely in line with expectations as we delivered 12.2% organic growth, increased adjusted EBITDA by 11% and expanded margins. Organic growth accelerated to 13.2% in the fourth quarter. Notably, we saw growth across all our segments in 2023 on top of strong performance in 2022.In the U.S. segment, organic revenue grew 13.7% in the fourth quarter, driven by a record holiday season as specialty doughnut offerings drove incremental sales through all channels, especially DFD, and had positive impact on our sales. We also observed increased transaction values due to growth of our e-commerce channel.All of this was underpinned by our strategy of growing points of access, which grew 17.7% year-over-year with more than 300 DFD doors added in Q4 versus Q3 and over 1,000 doors added versus 2022. [ At ] Insomnia Cookies, we observed strong organic growth of 16.3% as well as sequential margin improvement from Q3. That said, margins in the business remained pressured given the elevated cost of coco.The hub and spoke model first established in the U.K. and Australia is now well underway in the U.S. with several cities seeing marked improvements in profitability during the year as we added more points of access to the existing hubs. This, as well as our ability to leverage pricing to offset inflation, explains the increase in sales per hub of 8.9% year-over-year and the subsequent 120 basis point adjusted EBITDA margin improvement for the year.In the International segment, organic revenue grew 9% year-over-year as we expanded points of access and leverage global campaigns over the holiday season to drive volume of our specialty doughnuts. Most notably, we executed our Elf specialty doughnuts in 9 markets worldwide, leveraging a single set of [ market ] materials, seeing great results in Mexico and the U.K.Mexico was a substantial contributor to growth this quarter. We have nearly doubled points of access in Mexico through existing partners, such as [ Oxxo ], with meaningful room to continue expanding in the country. We also saw a successful growth in new partners such as Costco in Australia, which continues to prove to be an efficient customer. Adjusted EBITDA improved sequentially in the quarter to 20.6% with margin expansion in both Australia and Mexico.Profitability continues to be pressured in the U.K., and we're taking actions to improve productivity.In the Market Development segment, organic revenue grew 19.2% in the fourth quarter as we continue our international expansion by opening 126 more points of access through a combination of theaters, fresh shops and DFD doors. We opened in 2 new markets, Ecuador, and France, and expect that these 2 countries alone can support more than 2,000 further points of access.Most notably, Paris represented a record-breaking launch in the fourth quarter. This shop was our best performing shop worldwide on a sales basis in December. Market development adjusted EBITDA grew 21.1% in the fourth quarter with margins expanding by 120 basis points to 35.4%.Margin improvements were primarily driven by continued hub and spoke efficiencies in our equity-owned Japanese and Canadian markets. As we continue to expand globally, we expect to see high returns in the international franchises. The JV structure of the French market is a prime example of our capital-light model approach, which enables earnings flow throughout significant margins, while providing the option to take equity ownership of the market in the future. As you heard from Josh earlier, we announced our future entry into Brazil using a similar approach.For the year ending 2023, we delivered $0.27 in adjusted earnings per share, driven by improvements in adjusted EBITDA that were offset by higher-than-expected depreciation and amortization as we continue to accelerate expansion both domestically and globally at Insomnia Cookies, and made choiceful investments in anticipation of accelerated growth in the U.S. DFD business. We also saw increased annual interest expense as a result of the higher interest rate environment.As a result, we saw adjusted diluted earnings per share finished lower than our original expectations. Our business fundamentals remain strong, and we are confident in our ability to grow EPS despite remaining in the somewhat higher interest rate environment in 2024. As mentioned on previous calls, in 2023, we deployed some of our operating cash flow to strategically reduce our use of vendor financing, which had an impact on net cash from operations.Over the year, we reduced vendor financing by roughly $82 million, which will provide a long-term tailwind of $3 million to $5 million on an annualized basis to adjusted EBITDA beginning in mid-2024.Despite these efforts, we were able to hold leverage flat through 2023, finishing the year at 4.1x. We have a healthy balance sheet, having extended our maturities to 2028 in the first quarter of 2023. We closed the year with just under $40 million in cash and have access to ample liquidity through our revolver with an undrawn capacity of $159 million.We remain focused on the long-term health of the business and setting up our capital structure to support growth through a strong balance sheet. We expect to deliver in 2024, primarily through the growth of adjusted EBITDA and running the business with an eye towards efficiency in capital expenditures as well as managing working capital.Over the long-term, we remain on track to be between 2.0x and 2.5x net leverage in 2026. As we look forward to 2024, we're providing our outlook for the full year, which assumes a nominal impact from foreign exchange and contemplates all operations, including Insomnia Cookies.For the full year 2024, we expect to deliver net revenue growth of 5% to 7%, organic revenue growth of 6% to 8%, adjusted EBITDA growth of 8% to 11% and adjusted diluted earnings per share of between $0.27 and $0.31.After reporting strong double-digit fourth quarter and full year organic growth in excess of our full year guide, we remain confident in our 2024 guidance and our ability to drive operating leverage as we become more [ coordinated ] as a global company. We believe we are well positioned for sustainable, high-quality growth in the years to come, leveraging the tools which helped us deliver a great finish to the year in 2023.As it relates to the first quarter, despite the harsh weather in broad parts of the U.S. in January and lapping record-breaking sales in the first quarter of 2023, we expect net revenue growth of 2% to 4%. We also expect adjusted EBITDA to grow in line with the revenue growth. We will closely monitor and adapt to changes in the market and consumer environment, and I remain confident about the profitable growth potential of our business in 2024, and we're excited for a great year to come.With that, I'll turn it over to Josh for his closing remarks.

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

Thanks, Jeremiah. In summary, we are expanding availability by adding high-quality, productive points of access, driving operating leverage through the efficiency of our operating model, and maximizing capital return, both by leveraging existing capacity and making selective investments in geographies which have limited access to Krispy Kreme today. All in, I look forward to us building a bigger and better Krispy Kreme in the years ahead.Operator, let's now open it up to Q&A, please.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Sara Senatore with Bank of America.

[Jessica Owusu Afari, analyst]

This is Jessica Owusu Afari on for Sara Senatore. So for last quarter, you said you had advanced discussions about expanding the McDonald's partnerships, and we're making investments in the U.S. But it looks like the 160 or so restaurants testing the doughnuts have been unchanged since 3Q. So -- and I know that the press release alluded to more growth in the quick service restaurant channel, but I wanted to see if there's any more color you could provide on that agreement? And I do have a couple more questions, but I [ think ] I can ask them one at a time.

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

Yes, obviously, word is out on the success of our Delivered Fresh Daily doughnut program, several customer opportunities in existing and new channels around the world. Regarding quick service restaurants in the U.S., our focus does continue to be on McDonald's.Discussions are ongoing and productive about an expanded partnership, and we'll provide an update on that one when we have it. What was your second question?

[Jessica Owusu Afari, analyst]

So in the U.S. in international markets, revenue growth was slightly less on points of access growth. I know you think in terms of growth in sales per hub, but as we try to forecast sales going forward, how should we think about new points of access? Is it fair to assume that they'll have lower volumes at the existing base of points of access? And if so, is that driven by the type of store? And will that change if you accelerate expansion into the quick service industry?

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

Well, it's interesting -- Obviously, the 3 international markets there of U.K., Australia and Mexico are all in different situations. The U.K., Australia, much more developed in the grocery store customer mix. Mexico really, really starting out with a big opportunity in convenience stores. So you get a constant mix effect there. Underlying performance is good, but you're going to get these mix effects for the forecasting, especially in Mexico with the big opportunity with the Oxxo convenience store chain.

[Jessica Owusu Afari, analyst]

And could you remind us how much of your commodity [ that ] you have locked in?

[Jeremiah Ashukian, executive]

Yes, I can take that, Jessica. And we started to put on -- cover on commodities early in 2023. We do expect to see mid-to high single-digit inflation overall for 2024. Most of our commodities are now covered. So about 75% of them are covered, of the commodities that we actually can cover as it made sense for us from a pricing perspective or just a security supply perspective. It's a bit of a mixed bag within that kind of high single-digit -- mid-to high single-digit inflation number amongst our cost structure as we're forecasting inflation in excess of 20% on things like sugar, where the market remains around 10-year highs and low double-digit inflation on things like cartons, which is a commodity we can hedge. But we do expect to see some deflation on key commodities like wheat and edible oils.I think it's important to note that just outside of commodities from a labor perspective, we do believe that we'll be subject to the wage increases in California. And as a result, we continue to expect to see high single-digit to low double-digit inflation on labor in 2024.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of John Ivankoe with JPMorgan.

[Luke Jobe, analyst]

This is Luke Jobe on for John Ivankoe. Just wondering if you could give some language around specific changes to kind of the current process or model that we're focused on with specification to modernization of the doughnut making process and kind of especially delivery within that?

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

Sure. I'll take that. Yes, you picked up on our efforts to modernize the way we make and move our doughnuts. That goes all the way from the sort of digitization of the process through to the automation of the doughnut making itself and then all the way on to upskilling our doughnut transportation. All in, we're working to ensure the freshest doughnuts every time, delivered as efficiently as possible. We've shared before the automation efforts. We have a line running in New York, which is now automatically filling, topping, and even packing the doughnuts. We're looking to perfect that and then roll it out in -- as time goes on.And then regarding the logistics in particular, the rapid expansion of DFD means that we're becoming more -- logistics is becoming more and more important. So -- we announced on today's call that we have a pilot covering select routes in D.C. and L.A. And that's expected to take about 4 to 6 months. And the purpose of that is to work with the third-party providers to see if we can maintain quality and service whilst being able to access new capabilities that they can bring and over time, improve our operations and indeed bring more efficiency. So it's an effort end-to-end to continuously improve doughnut making and moving and we'll provide updates as we learn more.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of Bill Chappell with Truist.

[Unknown Analyst]

This is David [indiscernible] on for Bill Chappell. I just wanted to know, we saw that your guidance this year -- for fiscal year '24 includes operations for Insomnia Cookies, but we were wanting to know if you could provide a little bit of color on what the sales guide would be without the inclusion of Insomnia Cookies?

[Jeremiah Ashukian, executive]

Yes. I mean, number one, we're pleased with the performance of Insomnia as the business continues to grow profitably and improve sequentially in terms of EBITDA -- adjusted EBITDA improvement. We opened a record number of cookie bakeries in 2023. We also talked about the growth rate at Insomnia at 16.3% on the earnings call as well. There continues to be lots of opportunity on this business to expand both the U.S. and internationally. We do expect it to continue to grow double-digit in 2024. But just given the fact that we're in the process, as we said in Q3, we're conducting a strategic review, and we look forward to sharing more news about it that we can. I think in the last earnings call, I did let everybody know that we operate -- or the impact on Insomnia would have a roughly 100 to 200 basis point impact on the top line, though.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of Aisling Grueninger with Piper Sandler.

[Aisling Grueninger, analyst]

So CapEx came in as a percent of revenue for 2023 at 7.2%. And the new 2024 outlook, you're targeting 7% to 8%. We're just wondering how concrete of a number that is? Does that include any incremental investments you would need to make if, let's say, a QSR partnership was to come to fruition in 2024?

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

Our confidence in the DFD opportunity around the world and especially in the U.S., including QSR, is such that we have thoughtfully started making additional investments in manufacturing capacity to support it. For example, we've secured new sites in Miami, Twin Cities and L.A., all conversions of existing buildings looking to accelerate time to opening to keep up with demand.To clarify, though, the investments we're making there are in broad support of the expansion of DFD overall. So they're not dependent specifically, for example, on McDonald's, but they're investments that we very much believe make a lot of sense for our business going forward in terms of bringing Krispy Kreme to more people in those new channels.

[Aisling Grueninger, analyst]

My second question is on -- I think we touched on this before, but it's in Slide 18 of your presentation, it's about average revenue per door per week for international. Just what's the dynamics behind -- it's been the decrease year-over-year. Is it just opening the DFD doors in less prime locations than the earlier locations? Or -- just any color would help.

[Jeremiah Ashukian, executive]

Yes. It's a great question. APDs internationally were impacted in 2002 by the U.K. regulations that were put in place. It's called HFSS, which required us to move where the locations were in the stores, which had an immediate step down in terms of productivity.Moving forward, the APD per door has been impacted by adding more convenience type locations, which Josh mentioned, around places like Oxxo in Mexico, which, on average, is a smaller footprint, which could be a lower kind of dollar per door. So overall, kind of the mix effect there will have a pull on. We believe the APD will remain fairly flattish internationally kind of moving forward.

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

It's worth clarifying on the U.S. because actually interesting, with APDs growing strongly, we're seeing that we're actually bringing on even more productive new customers and locations showing that -- there's a lot of white space opportunity in the U.S. And it's interesting international. Mexico, an example where we are leading on convenience store and the U.S. is a lot of grocery stores, mass -- club stores, for example, big opportunities there. So the APD will evolve over time with different types of customers. But all in, we're seeing continuously productive doors are ones that support our margin expansion plans.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Guglielmo with Capital One Securities.

[Daniel Guglielmo, analyst]

Just going back to the U.S. expansion of hubs. You mentioned Minnesota, California, Florida, and I think New England and Upstate New York were also opportunities. So just thinking through kind of those, are there certain areas you see as priorities right now? And are there certain markets that you need to get open before doing like a national QSR rollout?

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

Well, [Technical Difficulty] roll out with a customer like, for example, McDonald's, 13,000, 14,000 restaurants in the U.S. We could cover about 6,000 restaurants just with our existing network. So your question goes to the 7,000 or 8,000 assuming you're taking McDonald's as the benchmark, that we would need to cover in areas where -- mostly, it's those areas you described in the country where Krispy Kreme isn't today.Our plans are anyway over time to open up in those places and reference to either Miami, Twin Cities, L.A., New England, [ all the ones ] you referenced to Upstate New York. They're all in our plans. Naturally, those that we have already maxed out capacity or we've identified sites to the ones who are prioritizing in the short term. But they all make sense for us. And so we're actually looking across the country in all those locations as we build out our plans for DFD and QSR in the future.

[Daniel Guglielmo, analyst]

And then just as a follow-up to that, it's kind of like a modeling question, just around the CapEx spend. So the 7% to 8% of revenue guidance for 2024. Just thinking about the expansion, and I think you had said [ 3 million ] to [ 6 million ] for some of those hubs, is there a cadence we should be thinking about quarter-to-quarter for the year? Is it going to be pretty evenly spread throughout? Or should it be back weighted? Just trying to get some help there.

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

On the CapEx -- I mean, the hubs themselves are coming online, probably a little more back weighted. The CapEx itself phases differently, doesn't it Jeremiah?

[Jeremiah Ashukian, executive]

Yes. I mean there's a cash flow from CapEx that will happen here because we've spent, or at least decided to deploy capital last year in an effort to [Technical Difficulty] up and running earlier in the year. From a modeling perspective, I mean, for the most part, we will follow a fairly uniform spend of CapEx throughout the year, as we have in previous years. So it's a fairly consistent number when you think about a percent of revenue that will balance between 7% and 8% for the quarter. It will just bounce up and down between those numbers more or less.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Wolf with CL King.

[Andrew Paul Wolf, analyst]

First, I wanted to ask about the first quarter sales being low trend, and tie that to the year because obviously, you're looking for a big rebound to more like 6% to 8% to get to the 5% to 7% for the year, for the Q2 through Q4. A little more in line with what we were -- I think [indiscernible] was expecting. So could you just kind of flesh out a little bit what you're seeing in the quarter? How much do you think is pure weather? Is there anything else going on? Do you have sort of nonweather impacted markets either in the U.S. or Canada, or even the other segments that sort of point to sort of some more normalized growth supporting the rebound for the rest of the year?

[Jeremiah Ashukian, executive]

Yes. Thanks, Andrew, and I can take that. I think I'll probably start off by just saying, we're actually pleased with the fact that we'll continue to post growth in Q1 after a record Q1 in 2023 and 14 consecutive quarters of organic growth. I think the last time we didn't grow in the quarter was during COVID and as a result of some of the U.K. shutdown or slowdown. Organic growth in the quarter is actually close to 3% to 6%, given we'll be lapping the discontinuation of [ BST ].As we mentioned, like many others, we saw harsh weather in broad parts of the U.S. in January, leading to lower revenues and a softer start to the year, which also comes up against the comp of 14.4% last year, but also a couple of one-offs to your point, one at Insomnia Cookies. We have a lap against extended delivery zones that will be in our base, which provided some tailwind last year.And then two, in market development, we had a one-off shift in the timing of some equipment sales in our market development franchise business, which resulted in a higher sales being recognized in 1Q last year. That said, we're excited for Valentine's Day tomorrow, which is one of our biggest sales days of the year, not to mention other key specialty doughnut offerings over the course of the year.We're definitely committed to disciplined growth in pursuit of the full year guide that I laid out. And we will, when you think about it from a cadence point of view, lap some other things as we get into Q2, that may go the other way, most notably the NCR outage that we had in the U.S. in Q2 2023, which will help us kind of recover back in Q2.

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

[Technical Difficulty] I'll add is we're looking forward to quality sustained growth through 2024. And Q4 showed once again the consumer just loves our doughnuts, especially for sharing and gifting and special occasions and celebrations like Valentine's, that Jeremiah mentioned, even when priced at a premium. And we see that in all sales channels with really quite phenomenal growth recently in e-commerce, in particular. So our consumer is engaging with the brand more than ever, and that's the key backdrop to understanding Krispy Kreme.

[Andrew Paul Wolf, analyst]

And if I can just add another follow-up just related also to sales. I assume for the year you only have the 160 or so McDonald's stores in there. But I guess for the U.S. specifically, is there any less of a push on sales in any way, whether it's not putting up stores -- you might have put hubs that you might have put up because you're deferring -- is there any impact on your -- what's in the guidance because you're kind of throttling any part of the U.S. operations back in anticipation of either McDonald's or another QSR?

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

There's no throttling back. It's absolutely the case that DFD continues to be a core driver of our growth. Indeed, as I mentioned a moment ago, that the Q4 addition of doors around the world included the U.S. at a time which has traditionally been problematic for our customers. They want to put in other seasonal items this year, they want to put in our items and prioritized listing new doors for Krispy Kreme. So definitely no throttling back.At the same time, we are very focused on improving the quality of our operations, ensuring high-quality sustainable growth, working, as I mentioned, on making, moving doughnuts in continuously better ways. So that naturally means we're very thoughtful as we grow to make sure we have the best points of access, strong hubs, making sure they're set up for future growth.As I also mentioned, with many of the doughnut shops still heavily underutilized, they're able to make more than twice the amount of doughnuts that they do today, most of those lines. Getting ready for growth with QSR and other new channels is a lift. And so we're making sure that everywhere we grow, it's in a way that ensures high-quality doughnuts presented freshly to consumer in every channel, whilst maintaining productivity and efficiencies. So yes, we're certainly working hard on the system, but we're not as such throttling back.

[Operator]

I would now like to turn the call over to Josh Charlesworth for closing remarks.

[Joshua Charlesworth, executive]

Well, thank you, everybody. Thank you for your interest in Krispy Kreme today. And of course, thank you to all our Krispy Kremers for their hard work in 2023 and your ongoing commitment to bring joy to our customers through Krispy Kreme. Thank you.

[Operator]

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.