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Earnings Call Transcript
2022-Q3

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Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Cathay General Bancorp's Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Matt, and I'll be your coordinator for today. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay at www.cathaygeneralbancorp.com.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Georgia Lo, Investor Relations of Cathay General Bancorp.

G
Georgia Lo
executive

Thank you, Matt, and good afternoon. Here to discuss the financial results today are Mr. Chang Liu, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Heng Chen, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Before we begin, we wish to remind you that speakers on this call may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the applicable provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 concerning future results and events and that these statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties are further described in the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021, at item 1A, in particular, and in other reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time. As such, we caution you not to place undue reliance on such forward-looking statements.

Any forward-looking statements speaks only as of the date on which it is made, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or review any forward-looking statements to reflect future circumstances, developments or events or the occurrence of an unanticipated event.

This afternoon, Cathay General Bancorp issued its earnings release outlining its third quarter 2022 results. To obtain a copy of our earnings release as well as our earnings presentation, please visit our website at www.cathaygeneralbancorp.com. After comments by management today, we will open up this call for questions.

I will now turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Chang Liu.

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Chang Liu
executive

Thank you, Georgia, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to our 2022 third quarter earnings conference call. This afternoon, we reported net income of $99 million for the third quarter of 2022, a 36.8% increase as compared to a net income of $72.4 million for the third quarter of 2021.

Diluted earnings per share increased 45.2% to $1.35 per share for the third quarter of 2022 compared to $0.93 per share for the same quarter a year ago. In the third quarter of 2022, our gross loans increased $318.9 million or 7.8% annualized. The increase in loans for the third quarter of 2022 was primarily driven by increases of $193.4 million or 26.8% annualized in commercial loans, excluding PPP loans; $114.7 million or 5.6% annualized in commercial real estate loans, $85.3 million or 8.2% annualized in residential mortgage loans.

The overall loan growth for 2022 is expected to range between 11% to 12.5%, including approximately $646.1 million of loans from the acquisition of certain HSBC West Coast branches in February 2022. Excluding the HSBC acquisition, we project loan growth to be between 7% and 8.5% in 2022. We continue to monitor our commercial real estate loans.

Turning to Slide 7 of our earnings presentation. As of September 30, 2022, the average loan-to-value of our CRE loans was 51%. As of September 30, 2022, our retail property loan portfolio at Slide 8 comprises 22% of our total commercial real estate loan portfolio and 11% of our total loan portfolio.

The majority, 89% of the $1.95 billion in retail loans, is secured by retail store buildings, neighborhood, mixed use or strip centers, and only 10% is secured by shopping centers. For the third quarter of 2022, we reported net charge-offs of $0.6 million compared to net recoveries of $0.2 million in the second quarter of 2022. Our nonaccrual loans were 0.38% of total loans as of September 30, 2022, increased by $7.5 million to $68.1 million as compared to the end of second quarter of 2022.

Turning to Slide 11. Classified loans decreased slightly during the quarter from $244 million to $240 million as of September 30, 2022. And our special mention loans increased slightly during the quarter from $295 million to $305 million as of September 30, 2022.

We reported a provision for credit loss of $2 million in the third quarter of 2022 as compared to a $2.5 million provision for credit losses in the second quarter of 2022 and $3.1 million provision for credit losses in the third quarter of 2021. Total deposits increased by $288.4 million or 6.4% annualized during the third quarter of 2022.

Time deposits increased $686 million or 49.7% annualized, and interest-bearing demand deposits increased $76 million or 12% annualized during the third quarter of 2022 compared to the second quarter of 2022. Money market deposits decreased by $287 million or 33.6% annualized due primarily to a migration back to CDs or money market deposits and deposit runoff.

For 2022, the overall deposit growth is expected to range between 8% and 9.5%, which includes approximately $600 million of low-cost deposits from the HSBC acquisition. In May 2022, the Board of Directors adopted a $125 million new share repurchasing program. We repurchased 1.08 million of shares of our stock at an average cost of $42.88, totaling $46.3 million in the third quarter of 2022, with $76.9 million remaining in the May 2022 stock repurchase program.

I will now turn the floor over to our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Heng Chen, to discuss the third quarter of 2022 financial results in more detail.

H
Heng Chen
executive

Thank you, Chang, and good afternoon, everyone. For the third quarter of 2022, net income increased by $26.6 million or 36.8% to $99 million compared to the third quarter of 2021. The increase was primarily attributable to net interest margin expansion and continued strong loan growth in the third quarter of 2022.

Our net interest margin was 3.83% in the third quarter of 2022 as compared to 3.22% for the third quarter of 2021. In the third quarter 2022, interest recoveries and prepayment penalties added 3 basis points to the net interest margin as compared to 5 basis points for the second quarter of 2022 and 4 basis points for the same quarter a year ago. Based on the year-end Fed funds target range between 4.5% and 4.75%, we have increased our net interest margin expectation for 2022 to be between 3.6% to 3.7%.

Noninterest income during the third quarter of 2022 decreased by $2.3 million to $9.9 million when compared to the third quarter of 2021, primarily due to equity securities loss of $3.7 million in Q3 2022. Noninterest expense increased by $3.2 million or 4.3% to $75.4 million in the third quarter of 2022 when compared to $72.2 million in the third quarter of 2021. The increase was primarily due to a $1.2 million in higher salaries and bonuses and $0.8 million in higher occupancy expenses due in part to the acquisition of certain HSBC West Coast branches and $1.1 million in higher marketing expenses. The effective tax rate in the third quarter of 2022 was $23.8 million (sic) [ 23.8% ] as compared to $19.1 million (sic) [ 19.1% ] in the third quarter of 2021, which included a $1.2 million true-up adjustment to -- for 2021 Q1.

For the fourth quarter of 2022, we expect an effective tax rate of between 22.5% and 23%. We expect solar tax credit amortization of $7.5 million in the fourth quarter of 2022. As of September 30, 2022, our Tier 1 leverage capital ratio decreased to 10.02% as compared to 10.15% as of June 30, 2022.

Our Tier 1 risk-based capital ratio decreased to 12.06% from 12.18% as of June 30, 2022. And our total risk-based capital ratio decreased to 13.59% from 13.74% as of June 30, 2022.

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Chang Liu
executive

Thank you, Heng. We will now proceed to the question-and-answer portion of the call.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Brandon King with Truist Securities.

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Brandon King
analyst

So first question -- I appreciate the NIM guidance for full year but wanted to get a sense of what your NIM outlook is beyond this year and into next. And do you potentially see NIM topping out next year? And kind of like what is the trajectory you see the NIM going to beyond this year?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Well, we think our NIM will still gradually increase in the fourth quarter and then -- it's hard to tell as to 2023, but if our NIM is at 4% for the full year of 2023, we feel pretty good about it.

B
Brandon King
analyst

Okay. And for the fourth quarter this year, are you expecting a similar increase in net interest margin as it was in Q3? Or do you still see that kind of slowing down a bit based off where rate is standing today?

H
Heng Chen
executive

It should be a little bit less primarily from the mix of deposits. We're seeing a lot of customers going into CDs now that rates are more attractive compared to the past.

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Brandon King
analyst

Okay. And then my last question before I step back in the queue. I just want to understand the deposit guidance, the growth guidance. Backing into it, it seems like the fourth quarter, you're expecting a pretty much decent-sized growth, outsized growth in deposit balances. And I want to just make sure I'm interpreting that correctly. And if so, what gives you the confidence that you can achieve that sort of deposit growth in this current environment?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Well, Brandon, I think it could be in the rounding as we get to the end of the year. But we are targeting deposit growth to match loan growth. So to the extent, and we expect loan growth to be slower in Q4 than in Q3, mainly because the higher interest rates will dampen loan growth. They will just match loan growth.

Operator

Our next question will come from Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson.

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Gary Tenner
analyst

I wanted to follow up on actually the deposit question, Heng. You're talking about 8% to 9.5% full year deposit growth of an $18.1 billion base. So that would -- even at the low end of that growth range would suggest about $19.5 billion at year-end, which is almost $1 billion over the September 30 number and, obviously, well above, I think, where most would project your loan growth in the fourth quarter. So just, again, I know the question has been asked, but I'm still a bit confused by the guidance in the slide deck versus, I guess, your previous answer.

H
Heng Chen
executive

I think -- I looked at it, it seems fine, but we expect about $300 million of deposit growth in the fourth quarter.

G
Gary Tenner
analyst

Okay. Great. And then on the deposits at quarter end, could you give us the spot rate at September 30 for interest-bearing deposit costs or total deposit costs?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. This is total interest-bearing deposits. So it doesn't count DDA. It's 1.06%.

G
Gary Tenner
analyst

Okay. And then final question for me. In terms of loan growth, I know you're not giving guidance for 2023 at this point. But as you think of -- well, we have an idea what the fourth quarter might look like, of course. But as you're thinking about the segments of growth or headwinds in 2023, reasonable to expect continued sort of runoff in the construction and equity lines of business and slower growth in commercial mortgage. Is that generally how you think about 2023?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. Yes.

Operator

Our next question will come from Andrew Terrell with Stephens.

A
Andrew Terrell
analyst

Maybe just to circle back on the funding. It looks like you brought on some FHLB advances during the quarter. Just curious whether those were term advances or just overnight funding. And I guess just given kind of what you're expecting for loan deposit growth in the fourth quarter? Should we expect those borrowings to remain relatively kind of stable from here? Or do you have any flexibility to pay the FHLB down?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes, that was -- we expect that to go down. It was just the timing of deposits came in the quarter end. So right now, those FHLB borrowings, they're down to about $150 million.

A
Andrew Terrell
analyst

Okay. And then on the CD side, can you just remind us how much in CD deposits you have maturing in the fourth quarter? Do you have what the costs are rolling off at and what kind of the going on rate for a new CD is at Cathay right now? And then also of that kind of $300 million of deposit growth that you referenced, what kind of portion of that do you expect to be represented by CD deposits?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Well, okay. I'll get back to you on the CD roll-off, Andrew. And then -- I left that schedule in my office. And then your second part of the question was?

A
Andrew Terrell
analyst

Just that the -- you referenced kind of $300 million or so of anticipated deposit growth in the fourth quarter. Just how much of that you expect it to be represented by CD deposits as opposed to money market or IB checking or noninterest-bearing?

H
Heng Chen
executive

We would expect most of it to be CDs. It's hard to predict some new depositors, they prefer money market because if there's further -- they're not locked into a rate for the next year. So if they still think that the fare is going to continue to increase into 2023 they'll want to stay in money market. So -- but my expectation is that most of that fourth quarter deposit growth will be in CDs.

Operator

Our next question will come from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler.

M
Matthew Clark
analyst

Maybe just on the outlook around your deposit beta through the cycle. What are you assuming for your cumulative deposit beta assuming we get to 4.50%, 4.75% Fed funds?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Well, Matthew, it was according to our slides, the deposit beta in Q3 was 23%. That's on Page 15. I'm basing that on average Fed funds. We think the overall cycle deposit betas should be about 30%. It might be a little bit higher. But 30% would be good enough for us.

M
Matthew Clark
analyst

Okay. Great. And then the lower comp expense this quarter, can you give us a sense for what drove that relative to last quarter and how sustainable is that run rate?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. In the second quarter -- well, there's value that's -- about $1 million of the quarter-to-quarter swing is vacation, people going on vacation in the summer, and we had some commission expense in the second quarter. So I think a good rate for Q4, you should just add $1 million to our Q3 rate for those reasons.

M
Matthew Clark
analyst

Okay. Great. And then your guidance on low-income housing tax credit amortization for the fourth quarter? I know you gave us solar.

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. It's probably going to be $8 million. We've been adding investments. So as a season that the amortization increases.

Operator

Our next question will come from Chris McGratty with KBW.

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Christopher McGratty
analyst

Great. A lot of attention this quarter has been on TCE ratios for the industry. Given OCI moves -- you obviously don't have a big bond portfolio, so you've been largely immune to that. I'm interested in kind of the outlook for capital return given where your capital levels stand and the growth outlook.

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. We still have a portion left in our current buyback authorization. So we would expect to -- given the pace of our capital generation and the fact that loan growth is going to be slower, we are thinking of buying back 1 million shares in the fourth quarter. And then we'll have -- we're likely to have a new buyback authorization in the first quarter of 2023.

C
Christopher McGratty
analyst

And then maybe to follow up on Matt's question more broadly on expenses. The inflationary pressures that are out there, your core expenses are up about 5% year-on-year. How should we think about kind of the incremental headwinds to run the business as we go into 2023?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Well, let me start. Chang can answer more, but see -- one, we closed several branches in 2022. Some because of the HSBC branch acquisition where we have branches that are close to theirs and their location is better located. So we should save a small amount from that. Then we're just starting our 2023 budget process, so we don't want to give guidance until the January earnings call. But Chang, do you want to add any...

C
Chang Liu
executive

I mean, the only other thing I'll add to that is, Chris, we're very mindful of kind of the talent that we need and the people we need to retain to build the relationships and we got to compete with the marketplace in terms of what they can get out there. So we're selectively looking at people and their performance and kind of year-to-date. And doing what we need to retain them, while at the same time, managing our costs as carefully as we can.

Operator

At this time, there are no questions in the queue.

[Operator Instructions]

I will now turn the call back over to Cathay General Bancorp's management for closing remarks.

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Chang Liu
executive

I want to thank everyone for joining us on our call, and we look forward to speaking with you at our next quarterly earnings release call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Good day.