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Earnings Call Transcript
2024-Q1

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Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Cathay General Bancorp's First Quarter of 2024 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Gary, and I'll be your coordinator for today. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay at www.cathaygeneralbancorp.com. Now I would like to turn the call over to Georgia Lo, Investor Relations of Cathay General Bancorp. Please go ahead.

G
Georgia Lo
executive

Thank you, Gary, and good afternoon. Here to discuss the financial results today are Mr. Chang Liu, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Heng Chen, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, we wish to remind you that the speakers on this call may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the applicable provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 concerning future results and events, and that these statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.

These risks and uncertainties are further described in the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023, at Item 1A in particular, and in other reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time. As such, we caution you not to place undue reliance on such forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements speaks only as of the date on which it is made, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or review any forward-looking statements to reflect future circumstances, developments or events or the occurrence of unanticipated events.

This afternoon, Cathay General Bancorp issued an earnings release outlining its first quarter 2024 results. To obtain a copy of our earnings release as well as our earnings presentation, please visit our website at www.cathaygeneralbancorp.com. After comments by management today, we will open up this call for questions. I will now turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Chang Liu.

C
Chang Liu
executive

Thank you, Georgia, and good afternoon. Welcome to our 2024 first quarter earnings conference call. This afternoon, we reported net income of $71.4 million for first quarter 2024, a 13.4% decrease as compared to $82.5 million in the previous quarter. Our net income this quarter included a $9 million or $0.09 per diluted share mark-to-market loss from equity securities and a $2.9 million or $0.03 per diluted share accrual for an increase in the FDIC special assessment.

Diluted earnings per share decreased by 13.5% to $0.98 per share for the first quarter of 2024 as compared to $1.13 per share in the previous quarter. In first quarter 2024, total gross loans decreased $119 million or 2.4% annualized, primarily driven by increases of $92 million or 3.8% annualized in commercial real estate loans, offset by a decrease of $172 million or 20.9% annualized in commercial loans and $40 million or 37.7% annualized in construction loans.

Due to slower-than-expected loan growth in first quarter 2024, we have revised our overall loan growth guidance for 2024 to range between 3% and 4%. We've added Slide 6 to show the percentage of loans in which major loan portfolio that are either fixed rate or hybrid loans in their fixed rate period. Our loan portfolio consists of 64% fixed rate and hybrid loans, excluding fixed-to-float interest rate swaps on 4% of total loans. Fixed rate loans comprised 30% of total loans, and hybrid loans in fixed rate period comprised 34% of total loans. We continue to monitor our commercial real estate loans.

Turning to Slide 8 of our earnings deck. As of March 31, 2024, the average loan-to-value of our CRE loans was 50%. As of March 31, 2024, our retail property loan portfolio, as shown on Slide 9, comprised of 23% of our total commercial real estate loan portfolio or 12% of our total loan portfolio. 90% of the $2.3 billion in retail property loan is secured by retail store, building, neighborhood, mixed use or strip centers, only 9% secured by shopping centers.

On Slide 10, office property loans represent 15% of our total commercial real estate loan portfolio or 8% of our total loan portfolio. Only 34% of the $1.5 billion in office property loans are collateralized by pure office buildings. Only 3% are in central business districts. 38% of office property loans are collateralized by office retail stores. Office mixed use and medical offices and the remainder 28% are collateralized by office condos.

For first quarter 2024, we reported net charge-offs of $1.1 million as compared to $4.1 million in the previous quarter. Our nonaccrual loans were 0.5% of total loans as of March 31, 2024, which increased by $31.4 million to $98.1 million as compared to the previous quarter. The increase in nonaccrual loans during the first quarter of 2024 came mainly from a $23 million loan-to-value construction loan in New York, which is past due maturity and 2 theater loans totaling $21 million.

Turning to Slide 12. As of March 31, 2024, cost of our loans increased to $244 million from $200 million as of December 31, 2023, and our special mention loans decreased to $249 million from $308 million as of December 31, 2023. So for first quarter 2024, there was a small decrease in total special mention and classified loans. We recorded a provision for credit loss of $1.9 million in the first quarter of 2024 as compared to $1.7 million in provision for credit losses for the previous quarter.

Total deposits increased by $520.8 million or 10.8% annualized during the first quarter of 2024. Total core deposits increased $210.9 million or 8.4% annualized, and total time deposits increased $731.7 million or 31.3% during the first quarter of 2024, mainly due to our Lunar New Year CD campaign. We expect the overall deposit growth to continue in an estimated range between 4% and 5%.

As of March 31, 2024, total uninsured deposits were $8.1 billion, net of $0.7 billion in collateralized deposits. or 40.7% of total deposits. We have an unused borrowing capacity from the Federal Home Loan Bank of $6.9 billion and unpledged securities of $1.7 billion as of March 31, 2024. These sources of available liquidity more than cover 100% of uninsured and uncollateralized deposits as of March 31, 2024.

I will now turn the floor over to our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Heng Chen, to discuss the quarterly financial results in more detail.

H
Heng Chen
executive

Thank you, Chang, and good afternoon, everyone. For Q1 2024, net income decreased by $11.1 million or 13.4% to $71.4 million compared to $82.5 million in the previous quarter, primarily due to a $9 million annualized loss of equity securities in Q1 2024 versus a $9 million unrealized gain on equity securities in Q4 2023 and an additional $2.9 million accrual in Q1 2024 for the FDIC special assessment.

Q1 2024 net interest margin was 3.05% as compared to 3.27% for the previous quarter. Interest recoveries and prepayment penalties did not change the net interest margin for Q1 2024 versus an increase of 1 basis point for the previous quarter. We estimate our net interest margin for 2024 to be between 3.05% to 3.15% based on the expectation for 2 rate cuts in 2024, with the first rate cut in September, and the second rate cut in December.

Our prior net interest margin guidance was based on 3 rate cuts, with the first rate cut being in June, given that 64% of our loans, fixed rate or hybrid loans in their fixed rate period. The lower number of rate cuts negatively impacted our net interest margin guidance. Noninterest income during the first quarter of 2024 decreased by $16.5 million to $6.6 million when compared to $23.1 million in the previous quarter. The decrease was primarily due to an $18 million increase in unrealized loss on equity securities between the 2 quarters.

Noninterest expense decreased by $17.3 million or 15.6% to $93.2 million in Q1 2024 when compared to $110.5 million the prior quarter. This decrease was primarily due to a net decrease of $8.3 million from the FDIC special assessment; $11.7 million in lower amortization of solar tax credit investments; and $1.3 million lower in professional expense, offset by an increase of $3.5 million in salary and benefits, which included a $2 million true-up for 2023 bonuses and a $1.4 million seasonally higher payroll expense and an acceleration of $1 million of contributions into Q1 2024 as compared to the previous quarter.

The effective tax rate for Q1 2024 was 10.76% as compared to 11.28% the previous quarter. With the closing of a new solar tax credit fund investment in Q1 2024, we expect an effective tax rate of between 12% and 13% for 2024. We now expect total 2024 solar tax credit investment amortizations of $32.5 million, with $8 million in Q2 of 2024 and $9 million each in Q3 and Q4.

As of March 31, 2024, our Tier 1 leverage capital ratio increased to 10.1% as compared to 10.55% as of December 31, 2023. Our Tier 1 risk-based capital ratio increased to 13.08% from 12.83% as of December 31, 2023, and our total risk-based capital ratio increased to 14.55% from 14.3% as of December 31, 2023.

C
Chang Liu
executive

Thank you, Heng. We will now proceed to the question-and-answer portion of the call.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question today is from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler.

M
Matthew Clark
analyst

Just the first one around the margin. Could you give us the average margin in the month of March and then the spot rate on interest-bearing or total deposits at the end of March?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. The NIM for the month of March was 2.99%. And then the spot rate for interest-bearing deposits at the end of March was 3.8%.

M
Matthew Clark
analyst

Okay. Got it. Okay. And then just the low-income housing tax credit amortization, I think it was $8.2 million in the first quarter. Is that still expected to be $10.5 million per quarter for the next 3?

H
Heng Chen
executive

It might be closer to $10 million, but it jumps around.

M
Matthew Clark
analyst

Yes. Okay. Okay. And then just the reserve on your office portfolio. Is it consistent with the overall CRE reserve? Or has it changed at all?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Matthew, since we didn't have any new office nonaccruals, it's still the same as a general reserve.

Operator

The next question is from Brandon King with Truist.

B
Brandon King
analyst

So on the NIM guidance, what do you think takes you from the lower end of the range to the higher end of the range? Could you just give us kind of the puts and takes as far as how you're thinking about things?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes, Brandon. One, except the higher rates we paid for the 6-month CDs in the Chinese New Year promotion, we think we're getting less deposit pricing pressure. So as the quarter goes on, the CD pricing is going to be based on the 6-month for 1-year treasury. So that's going to decrease compared to where it is now. So we'll get less deposit pressure.

And then meanwhile, our new loans are at market rates. For example, residential mortgage, our new loans are low 7s. So it's going -- all our new loan production is going to pull up the average rate on our loans. And then we have some loans that are repricing, during the CRE loans that are repricing. So that will also improve the rate on the loan. So we see the NIM a little bit lower in Q2, maybe flat to Q2 and Q3, and then Q4 would be much better.

B
Brandon King
analyst

Got it. And that's because of the rate cuts, right, the impact of the rate cut?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes.

B
Brandon King
analyst

Okay. That makes sense. And then could you update us on the CD repricing or the CD maturities for the rest of the year?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. Let me -- we have this year -- so in the second quarter, we have $2.1 billion in CDs. The repricing -- while the yield of the maturing CDs are 4.57%, Q3, $3.6 billion, and the yield on those CDs is 4.82%. So that reflects our Chinese New Year promotion for the 6-month term. Q4, $2 billion of CDs are maturing. Yield is 4.67%. And then in Q1 2025, we have $1.9 billion maturing, and the yield there is at 4.18%. And there, it's -- some of the lower yield reflects the fact that our Chinese New Year promotion. Our 1-year rate was at 4.88%, so that was lower than the 6-month rate.

Operator

The next question is from Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson.

G
Gary Tenner
analyst

A little bit of a follow-up on the deposit and NIM question. I mean, just in a year where you don't have a need for massive deposit growth, given what the loan growth outlook looks like, how aggressive can you be on deposit pricing maybe outside the CD portfolio as that is going to roll over anyway?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Well, Gary, I'm the final staff for rate concessions at Cathay, and we're seeing much less. So when we -- so we're facing less pressure to raise new deposits because we expect our loan growth to be slower. And so we're -- so the mindset, particularly later on in the year, is to be a little bit more aggressive in pushing down the rates. And again, the fact that the treasury's -- at some point, the 1-year treasury is going to start declining, that will help us.

G
Gary Tenner
analyst

Right. I guess what I was trying to ask, perhaps I didn't ask it well enough, is outside of the CD book, do you have the ability, do you think, to be -- to push down or nibble on kind of deposit pricing to push it a little bit lower even ahead of the Fed cut? Or do you not think you have the ability to do that?

H
Heng Chen
executive

No, we -- a big -- a good proportion of our money market book is effectively tied to Fed funds. So as soon as there's a Fed rate cut on those depositors, we're going to cut the rate by 25 basis points. And then we plan on -- for other money market depositors, maybe we'll reduce those by 10 or 15 basis points. So -- and then we have some NOW accounts that are also tied to Fed funds. It's just not the CDs that we'll be able to reprice, right?

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Andrew Terrell with Stephens.

A
Andrew Terrell
analyst

Just a quick follow-up on the margin. Just on the discussion around the cadence throughout the year, it sounded like flattish in 2Q and 3Q and then lift into 4Q, kind of commensurate with your Fed cut assumptions. I'm just curious, is -- the flattish commentary, is that off of the spot margin you referenced or the March margin of 2.99%? Or do you think the 2Q margin is flat to the 3.05% reported in the first quarter?

H
Heng Chen
executive

No, it will be down a couple of basis points. Q2, there's 2 30-day months, so that helps us, because we have so many residential mortgages.

A
Andrew Terrell
analyst

Okay. So maybe down just a couple of basis points in the second quarter, and then flattish in 3Q and then starts to lift.

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. Yes.

A
Andrew Terrell
analyst

Okay. And then I was looking at the core operating expense lift in the first quarter and it was maybe a little more than what I was expecting. And if I do the math right, kind of tracking a few million dollars ahead of where you're full year expense growth guidance implies.

So I guess my question is just how much of the kind of 1Q lift in core operating expenses was more seasonality driven. And then just curious as we move throughout the year, where are you going to see quarterly expense reductions in the core OpEx to land in that 3% to 3.5% growth guidance?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. In my comments, I tried to cover the FICA hit, the bonus catch-up, the fact that we accelerated our some charitable contributions from April to March. We also -- because our loan growth was negative, we also had less loan origination cost capitalized. So based on kind of our looking at the flow of expenses, we think we'll be close to that 3.5% upper range.

Operator

The next question is from Chris McGratty with KBW.

C
Christopher McGratty
analyst

Last quarter, you talked about key to your guide for the margin was, I think, stability in noninterest-bearing, which fell again this quarter. What's -- have you revised that assumption for the back half of the year in your guide?

H
Heng Chen
executive

We spend a lot of time looking at the DDA by branch. And we think some of it, Chris, is seasonal because of the Chinese New Year, the payment of taxes. So it's stable in March and so far in April in terms of the DDA balance. And then the -- Chang, I think -- tends to build up later in the year.

C
Chang Liu
executive

As the customers' kind of business flow and the volume continues, some of the DDA balance should pick back up.

C
Christopher McGratty
analyst

Okay. Okay. Great. And then the follow-up, I guess, is two-part. One, it would seem like net interest income dollars would have a little bit more downward pressure in Q2, stability in Q3 and then growth in Q4. And then I just want to make sure I heard Matt's question on the amortization. So Q2 should be somewhere like $18 million combined solar and low income, right, $8 million plus $10 million?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. Yes. Yes.

C
Christopher McGratty
analyst

Got it. And then you agree with my logic on the net interest income cadence on a quarterly basis?

H
Heng Chen
executive

Yes. It'll be down a little bit more in Q2. We benefit from the 2 30-day months in Q2. And then in Q3, we have half a month of the Fed cut that will happen in September, and hopefully, some repricing from our Chinese New Year deposits. So yes.

Operator

Thank you for your participation. I will now turn the call back over to Cathay General Bancorp's management for closing remarks.

C
Chang Liu
executive

I would like to thank everyone for joining us on our call, and we look forward to speaking with you at our next quarterly earnings release call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Good day.