Air Transport Services Group Inc

NASDAQ:ATSG

Earnings Call Analysis

Air Transport Services Group Q2 2024 Earnings Call Highlights

During the second quarter of 2024, Air Transport Services Group (ATSG) experienced an 8% drop in revenues, totaling $488 million. This resulted in GAAP pretax earnings of $10.7 million, significantly lower than the $49.7 million from the previous year, and a diluted EPS of $0.11. Despite these declines, the company remains optimistic. They raised their adjusted EBITDA outlook to $526 million for 2024, with a reduction in projected capital expenditures by more than $400 million. They also emphasized progress in leasing additional freighters and their strong partnership with Amazon, expecting improved performance in the fourth quarter and beyond .

Quarterly Overview

In the second quarter of 2024, Air Transport Services Group, Inc. (ATSG) reported total revenues of $488 million, reflecting a decline of $41 million, or 8%, year-over-year. This downturn was primarily driven by reduced revenues in the Aircraft Leasing (CAM) and ACMI Services segments. The company experienced GAAP pretax earnings of $10.7 million, significantly down from $49.7 million a year ago, resulting in diluted earnings per share of $0.11, compared to $0.49 in Q2 2023. Adjusted pretax earnings also decreased, falling to $17 million, and adjusted EPS dropped to $0.19.

Segment Performance

In the Aircraft Leasing segment, revenues decreased by 7% due to a slight expansion in CAM's fleet, which saw 87 aircraft leased out as of the end of the quarter. The segment’s pretax earnings declined mainly due to a combination of increased depreciation, fewer engine cycles, and higher interest expenses. Meanwhile, ACMI Services reported a pretax loss of $7 million, a stark contrast to a gain of $24 million during the same period last year. A 10% drop in total block hours flown caused significant headaches for the segment, compounded by increased maintenance and travel costs.

Cash Flow and Capital Expenditure Trends

ATSG generated $137 million in operating cash flow during the quarter, yielding an adjusted free cash flow of $110 million. While this reflects a $55 million decrease from the previous year, it still showcased a healthy liquidity position. The company reduced total capital expenditures by 64% year-over-year, spending $70 million in Q2. For 2024, ATSG anticipates reducing total capital expenditures by over $400 million compared to the previous year, with total projected CapEx now at $390 million.

Future Outlook

Looking ahead, ATSG raised its adjusted EBITDA outlook for 2024 to approximately $526 million, a $10 million boost from previous estimates. This forecast mostly factors in strong performance in the fourth quarter, aligning with the company's expectation of added revenues from new leases, including the introduction of 10 additional Amazon-supplied aircraft. The third quarter is expected to yield similar adjusted EBITDA levels to the second quarter, but a marked improvement is forecasted for Q4.

Strategic Agreements and Plans

Throughout 2023 and into 2024, ATSG is focused on executing a robust business strategy, particularly emphasizing its unique 'Lease Plus' strategy that differentiates it from competitors. The company plans to complete conversions of 17 aircraft and initiate the delivery of two newly converted Airbus A330s by the end of the year. Furthermore, ATSG projects to maintain strong interest in its freighter assets driven by the e-commerce sector, which remains a key growth driver.

Conclusion and Investor Sentiment

While the past quarter presented challenges, notably in revenue declines and operational losses in ACMI Services, ATSG's overall strategy shows promise. With an optimistic outlook for EBITDA growth and reduced capital expenditure, the company appears positioned to improve its financial health and investor confidence. The stability in lease rates and robust demand for mid-sized freighters further enhances ATSG's prospects, leading to a favorable sentiment for the upcoming periods.

Earnings Call Transcript 2024-Q2

[Operator]

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Q2 2024 Air Transport Services Group, Inc. Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Joe Payne, Chief Legal Officer.

[Joe Payne;Chief Legal Officer, executive]

Good morning, and welcome to our second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. We issued our earnings release yesterday after the market closed. It's on our website at atsginc.com.

Let me begin by advising you that during the course of this call, we will make projections and other forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Our actual results and other future events may differ materially from those we describe here.

These forward-looking statements are based on information, plans, and estimates as of the date of this call. Air Transport Services Group undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect changes in underlying assumptions, factors, new information or other changes.

These factors include, but are not limited to: changes in the market demand for our assets and services, including the loss of customers or a reduction in the level of services we perform for customers; our operating airline's ability to maintain on-time service and control costs; the cost and timing with respect to which we are able to purchase and modify aircraft to a cargo configuration; fluctuations in ATSG's traded share price and in interest rates, which may result in mark-to-market charges on certain financial instruments; the number, timing and scheduled routes of our aircraft deployments to customers; our ability to remain in compliance with key agreements with customers, lenders, and government agencies; the impact of current supply chain constraints; the impact of the current competitive labor market; changes in general, economic and/or industry-specific conditions, including inflation and regulatory changes; the impact of geopolitical tensions or conflicts and human health crises; and other factors as contained from time to time in our filings with the SEC, including the Form 10-Q to be filed today.

We will also refer to non-GAAP financial measures from continuing operations, including adjusted earnings, adjusted earnings per share, adjusted pretax earnings, adjusted EBITDA, free cash flow, and adjusted free cash flow. Management believes these metrics are useful to investors in assessing ATSG's financial position and results. These non-GAAP measures are not meant to be a substitute for our GAAP financials. We advise you to refer to the reconciliations to GAAP measures, which are included in our earnings release and on our website.

And now I'll turn the call over to Joe Hete, our Executive Chairman, for his opening comments.

[Joe Hete;Executive Chairman, executive]

Thank you, Joe. Good morning, everyone. I want to spend just a moment on the leadership transitions we announced back in June. Mike Berger, previously our President, was appointed as CEO. Jeff Dominick, previously a Board member, took over Mike's role as President, while I became the Executive Chairman. Many of you already know Mike well from prior earnings calls and investor meetings. He's been with ATSG since 2018 and brings a wealth of knowledge and experience, having worked for major air express companies throughout his career.

With a background in private equity investing and commercial aerospace markets, Jeff expands ATSG's financial acumen in the aircraft leasing space, and we look forward to you meeting Jeff. As for me in my new role, I will still be heavily involved in the strategy development and the formulation of long-term business objectives for ATSG. I'll turn the call over now to Mike to update you on the quarter, and both Jeff and I will be available during the Q&A session. Mike?

[Mike Berger;Chief Executive Officer, executive]

Thank you, Joe, and thank you to everyone joining the call today as well. I'm excited to be speaking to you on my first earning conference call as CEO. I want to thank Joe Hete for his leadership and guidance as CEO after assuming the role last November and for continuing to lend us the skills and experience in his new role. I'm excited about the opportunity ahead of us here at ATSG. We have an unparalleled fleet of in-demand midsized freighters going to market with our Lease Plus strategy, which differentiates us from our competitors.

Last quarter, we communicated a key milestone, our expanded and extended flying agreement with Amazon. We will fly 10 additional aircraft they provide this year, and we remain on track with prior expectations to be fully ramped up on those 10 aircraft by peak season. That will bring us to 51 767 aircraft we operate for Amazon, including 30 we lease to them.

Comparisons of our financial results for the second quarter to prior year were principally affected by fewer leased 767-200 freighters as expected. Our results for the quarter did come in above our internal expectation. Also, we are encouraged to report the progress we've made on leasing available freighters. Since the end of June, we've leased 4 additional 767 freighters to external customers. CAM also has lease commitments for our first 2 converted Airbus 330 aircraft expected to deliver in the fourth quarter of the year and is optimistic about future leases of other available aircraft. All these aircraft are headed for international markets where they will facilitate global trade, further demonstrating ATSG as an enabler of e-commerce growth.

Importantly, we continue to execute the plans we laid out for 2024 with a focus on safety, customer satisfaction and cost control. I want to thank our ATSG team for their dedication in striving towards our goals. We're on track to exceed our stated goal of positive free cash flow for the year with $107 million generated through June and an expectation of additional free cash flow for the rest of the year. We are again raising our adjusted EBITDA outlook and have lowered our capital expenditure outlook for 2024.

We remain focused on realizing the benefits of our business model and have the right team, the right assets and the right strategy in place. I will now turn the call over to Quint Turner to discuss our financial results for the second quarter. Quint?

[Quint Turner;Chief Financial Officer, executive]

Thanks, Mike, and welcome to everyone joining us this morning. I'll start on Slide 4, which summarizes our financial results for the quarter. Revenues were down $41 million or 8% versus a year ago to $488 million. This was driven by reductions in both our CAM and the ACMI Services segments. In the second quarter, we saw GAAP pretax earnings of $10.7 million, down from pretax earnings of $49.7 million in the prior year period. This resulted in a diluted earnings per share of $0.11 versus diluted earnings per share of $0.49 in the second quarter of 2023.

On an adjusted basis, pretax earnings fell $41 million to $17 million, and EPS was down by $0.38 to $0.19. Adjusted EPS did improve sequentially by $0.03 from the first quarter. In our Aircraft Leasing segment, revenues decreased 7% as CAM's fleet of externally leased aircraft expanded by 1 since June 2023. That includes 14 incremental new leases less the 13 aircraft that came off-lease over the last 12 months and the related engine PBC revenues.

At the end of the second quarter, 87 CAM-owned aircraft were leased to external customers. CAM's pretax earnings were down $16 million for the quarter, reflecting $9 million more in depreciation, a $6 million revenue decline from fewer 767-200 engine cycles, and $4 million more interest expense versus the prior year. In our ACMI Services segment, we reported a pretax loss of $7 million compared with a gain of $24 million in the second quarter of last year. Total block hours flown by our 3 airlines were down 10% versus the prior year quarter. Our cargo airlines flew 11% fewer hours across our customers' delivery networks.

ACMI Services results were also affected by a $3 million increase in noncash amortization expense for the Amazon warrants. ACMI Services also experienced increased expenses for maintenance, travel, and ground service rates as the average flight segment was shorter than a year ago. As a reminder, we executed an expanded agreement with Amazon announced in May to begin flying 10 additional aircraft at ABX Air in the second half of the year. Three of these are flying now and we expect to have all of them flying in time for peak season in the fourth quarter when additional pilot training and transition costs will be largely behind us. The fourth quarter will also include benefits of seasonal peak flying opportunities and separately, scheduled pricing increases under certain flying contracts.

Turning to the next slide. Our second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $130 million, down $27 million from the prior year period. CAM's adjusted EBITDA decreased by $4 million, and ACMI Services and other decreased by $23 million. CAM's decline was again driven by 767-200 lease returns and fewer engine cycles operated by the 200s remaining in service, resulting in lower power by cycle engine revenues. The decrease in ACMI Services and other was driven by fewer block hours as well as increased expenses for maintenance, travel, and ground services.

Slide 6 details our capital spending on a trailing 12-month basis. Total CapEx for the quarter was $70 million, consisting of $43 million in growth and $27 million in sustaining CapEx. Our CapEx spending is down 64% year-over-year for the second quarter. And for the full year 2024, we project a decline of more than $400 million in capital expenditures compared to 2023.

The next slide updates adjusted free cash flow as measured by our operating cash flow, net of sustaining CapEx. Operating cash flow was $137 million in the second quarter of this year. While that was down $55 million versus the prior year period, we still generated $110 million of adjusted free cash flow. Furthermore, as a result of the reduced growth spending as well as $25 million in asset sale proceeds, we generated $92 million of free cash flow in the quarter. This brings the year-to-date total to $107 million.

On Slide 8, you can see that available credit under our bank revolver in the U.S. and abroad was $489 million at the end of the second quarter as we reduced total debt by $131 million since the beginning of the year. Our plan now calls for us to reduce our adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio to around 2.9x by the end of this year compared with 3.2x at the end of last year. We continue to maintain healthy liquidity with unencumbered aircraft assets of $1.4 billion. Now I'll turn the call back over to Mike to discuss our updated outlook. Mike?

[Mike Berger;Chief Executive Officer, executive]

Thanks, Quint. Turning to the next slide, I'd like to spend some time discussing our outlook and assumptions for 2024. Including the additional leases we signed since June, ATSG now expects adjusted EBITDA of approximately $526 million in 2024, an increase of $10 million from the outlook we provided in May with the increase concentrated in the fourth quarter. The contribution from these leases was included in our original $30 million of potential but uncommitted additional adjusted EBITDA we laid out in February. We expect the third quarter adjusted EBITDA to be similar to the second quarter, with a marked improvement in the fourth quarter.

As a reminder, this forecast also excludes any contribution from additional leases not currently under contract, which could generate additional adjusted EBITDA. We continue to see more interest in our newly converted freighters while maximizing value from the 767-200 aircraft that finished their lease terms. This includes utilizing 3 as spares to support additional Amazon flying.

As mentioned, we are reducing our total capital spending target to $390 million versus $410 million we projected in May. This includes $165 million for sustaining CapEx and $225 million for growth. The gross spending outlook includes the completion of 17 aircraft that were in the process of conversion at the start of the year and 7 feedstock purchases, including 1 additional Airbus A330 later this year.

As I mentioned earlier, we generated $107 million of free cash flow through June, and we expect continued improvement during the rest of the year. This improvement stems largely from the $400 million reduction in our CapEx spending versus a year ago. We continue to believe our midsized freighter assets will remain in high demand, and our unique Lease Plus strategy positions us for more freighter leases and superior customer satisfaction. We are focused on safe, efficient operations as we deliver our 2024 goals and look forward to an even better 2025.

That concludes our prepared remarks. Joe, Quint and I, along with Jeff Dominick, our President, are ready to answer questions. May we have the first question?

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Frank Galanti with Stifel.

[Frank Galanti, analyst]

I want to ask sort of about demand for the midsized freighters, what you're seeing, right? Obviously, you had more leased than you anticipated beginning of the year and last quarter. But sort of given how many of the older planes are coming out of service, how do you see the supply-demand balance for that freighter class?

[Mike Berger;Chief Executive Officer, executive]

Yes, Frank, it's Mike. We still see solid demand for the mid wide-body aircraft. We've delivered 14 aircraft in the last 12-month period. As we've announced, we've delivered 8 so far this year. And as I said, we know we're going to deliver the 2 A330s as we talked about. So we fully expect to deliver double-digit aircraft by the end of this year and hope to carry that continuous momentum into 2025.

[Frank Galanti, analyst]

Okay, that's helpful. And then sort of switching gears a little bit to the ACMI business. It looked like there -- well, there were negative pretax earnings on the segment, which is worse than I thought. Can you sort of talk about the puts and takes in the quarter on between lower block hours or more Amazon flying? And then -- sorry, more Amazon CapEx or OpEx to get the pilots trained up. And then relative to -- what do you expect on a go-forward basis?

[Quint Turner;Chief Financial Officer, executive]

Yes, Frank, it's Quint. Thanks for the question. Yes, the biggest impact in terms of the second quarter ACMI was just block hours, and block hours were down. As you know, we had the final -- the smaller 762s that we've talked about last year that were coming back from Amazon. We got all those back right at the beginning of the quarter, the second quarter. And so we had reduced block hours flown in their network.

Of course, as Mike said, we're going to begin adding aircraft, the larger 300s, with 3 on and another 7 expected to come on the second half of this year. And then Omni's block hours, our passenger block hours were also down, of course, versus the prior year. And so those are the biggest impact. And we also had -- in terms of that, we had some warrant amortization with respect to the new Amazon arrangement. We had extended some of the warrants that had been previously granted to Amazon, and the amortization of those is driving about a $3 million impact for that.

Now that said, in terms of the -- what were our expectations for the balance of the year, we do expect ACMI Services as a segment to be profitable for the year. And again, you saw some commentary in the release, it's weighted to the fourth quarter. And there's a few reasons for that. Of course, there's always peak. There's the timing of some scheduled contractual price increases that are coming there. There's some seasonal charter opportunities, peak season opportunities.

And so we do expect that for the full year, ACMI Services, which is down for the first half in the loss position by about $10.6 million, to end up profitable for the full year. And I think they'll carry some momentum into '25 with a larger fleet and some improved margins.

[Joe Hete;Executive Chairman, executive]

This is Joe. Frank, on top of that, you got the elimination, by the time we get to 4Q, of all the gear-up costs for the Amazon business, as you mentioned, in terms of pilot training, getting maintenance technicians trained up, et cetera. So that will be behind us by the time we get to the, call it, November time frame.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Christopher Stathoulopoulos with SIG.

[Christopher Stathoulopoulos, analyst]

So just to follow up on this last point here on the pretax contribution for ACMI. So Quint, profitable in 4Q. Just to kind of better understand if you contextualize that, is that slightly above breakeven? And as we think about -- I know there's a lot of these onetime costs going off. But just looking at '23, did around $32 million, 2019 pre pandemic around $32 million. How should we think about pretax earnings and ACMI as a percentage of your EBITDA mix for '25, given the expanded TSA with Amazon and all these other additional aircraft that are being placed?

[Quint Turner;Chief Financial Officer, executive]

Well, it might be a tad early for specific '25 guidance. But in terms of the remainder of this year, Chris, it's really again the fourth quarter where you're going to see, I think, ACMI Services improving its profitability and getting positive for the full year. I think the third quarter is going to -- because we're still onboarding the aircraft from Amazon and we've got those transitional costs that Joe mentioned in the third quarter, that's going to be a factor.

And the fourth quarter is when we expect to have them all on board. And that, combined with just the timing of sort of some annual adjustments that will take place on some of these contracts, I think, will really provide a nice tailwind for ACMI Services in the fourth quarter. I mean, as far as next year, of course, we'll be speaking to that guidance more on the next quarterly call for the full year.

But I think ACMI Services is going to make headway next year. Assuming contracts and business volumes remain in place as they are today, we would expect it to improve. As you know, they've had to absorb some aircraft coming back with the 767-200s. And those are all back now on those CMI contracts. So I think they're set to make progress on a go-forward basis.

[Christopher Stathoulopoulos, analyst]

As we think about and come up with our own bottoms-up analysis using all the fleet stats that you've given here for our '25 enterprise EBITDA, is it fair to say that ACMI as a percentage of enterprise could fall somewhere between, call it, 25% and 30% of adjusted total EBITDA for next year?

[Quint Turner;Chief Financial Officer, executive]

Yes, I think so. Yes, absolutely.

[Christopher Stathoulopoulos, analyst]

Okay. And as a follow-up here, with the outlook here for lower interest rates, how should we think about, I guess, lease rates or if you want to speak to, I guess, lease factors into 2025 or lease rate factors?

[Mike Berger;Chief Executive Officer, executive]

In regards to the rates, as I've mentioned on a number of calls, we've seen, for the 767 specifically, lease rates be very, very stable over the last several years. We haven't seen much fluctuation at all through the different cycles that we've undertaken over the last few years.

In terms of the lease rate factors, that can vary a little bit based on the feedstock costs, depending on different aircraft types as we go. Aircraft availability, specifically around the 330, have been generally higher based on some of the issues that Airbus has had getting their new product on the 350 into service. But overall in general, rates have stayed very, very constant.

[Christopher Stathoulopoulos, analyst]

Okay. And if I could just slip in one more here. I think you have 4 open labor deals, 2 on the pilots, 2 on the FAs between ATI and Omni. Just where are we on negotiations and sort of any sort of time lines we should look for?

[Jeffrey Dominick;President, executive]

I think as I've said on previous calls, right now, we don't expect to have -- the pilots are the primary drivers from a cost standpoint to get any agreements until sometime in 2025. Negotiations continue to progress under the auspices of the National Mediation Board. So that's baked into our numbers. We'll look into the fourth quarter where we don't anticipate having any additional costs as a result of settling up any of those labor agreements.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Michael Ciarmoli with Truth Securities.

[Michael Ciarmoli, analyst]

Just to stay on that on the labor front with the pilots, is there any increased disruption there or are you seeing any turnover from pilots? I mean, I think you called out crew training costs. But is that a factor or any kind of headwind on expenses there from that just overhang?

[Jeffrey Dominick;President, executive]

No. In fact, the attrition has dropped off markedly since last year, almost down probably about 50% from where it was a year ago, which reduces our turnover costs. But we do have the gear-up costs associated with the additional Amazon tables baked in there. As far as disruptions, no disruptions relative to crews. I mean, everybody is doing the job they're supposed to do on a day in, day out basis and moving the airplanes on a timely basis for our customers.

[Mike Berger;Chief Executive Officer, executive]

And I think it's worthwhile just to reiterate the amended deal that we got with ABX Air through 2030. We're really proud of that deal as well as establishing what our expectations are going forward.

[Michael Ciarmoli, analyst]

Got it. Got it, okay. And then just generally on the cargo market, I mean, you talked about ACMI and the block hours. Are you seeing any pressure just with the continued increase of passenger planes and that underbelly storage?

[Mike Berger;Chief Executive Officer, executive]

Not from a belly standpoint, we don't see any pressure. Keep in mind, the majority of our customers and specifically our main customers fly within the major integrator networks. So when they're flying networks, they don't have a tendency to get the variability piece of it from a seasonality standpoint and available capacity standpoint. So we've seen very much stability in that side of the business.

[Michael Ciarmoli, analyst]

Okay. Last one for me, I don't know if I missed it. The $25 million of property and equipment proceeds, what did that stem from? And should we expect any more of those in the second half of the year?

[Quint Turner;Chief Financial Officer, executive]

Yes. Michael, it's Quint. There were 5 airframes that we sold aircraft, couple of 300s and then 3 767-200s that made that up. And keep in mind, like the 300s, those are unmodified. We were monetizing. As you know, we had some assets that were not in conversion that were sort of awaiting conversion. So we were opportunistic and took that opportunity to move some of those.

And as we've been saying, we've had customers interested in buying some of these [ 767-200s ] that came back. And some of those customers, of course, will continue to procure engine power from us, which is good. So we monetized some assets. And as far as in the future, we'll be opportunistic, but as you know, it's something we don't typically that often do.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Ian Zaffino with Oppenheimer.

[Isaac Sellhausen, analyst]

This is Isaac Sellhausen on for Ian. Could you just provide a brief overview on the status and time line of conversions as we move through the rest of the year? I know you mentioned the 2 A330s are expected to be converted in the fourth quarter. But can you also just touch on the 767s and maybe how you think about the timing of those with respect to the demand outlook and potential for additional leases?

[Mike Berger;Chief Executive Officer, executive]

Yes. Thanks for the question. We expect to deliver, as I said earlier, a few more aircraft. From a 767 conversion standpoint, we're still actively converting aircraft with II in Tel Aviv. And we see the continuous demand for more 767s on a go-forward basis into 2025. We've often said and we still firmly believe that the 767 is the heartbeat of our company, and we will continue to convert 767s as they're in demand.

[Isaac Sellhausen, analyst]

Okay, understood. And then as a quick follow-up on the passenger block hours or just flying at ACMI. Could you -- I think you mentioned a little bit in the prepared remarks on Omni. Maybe you could just help us understand where things are there as far as military flying and activity for them.

[Jeffrey Dominick;President, executive]

Yes. In terms of the Omni hours, as we said, the -- I think the passenger block hours were up versus a year ago by about 4% or so. However, on a sequential basis, they're not anything like that. They're doing a bit better than that on a sequential basis, actually being up on a sequential basis versus the first quarter. I think that the exercises, as you know, that's -- the visibility is always a little bit tougher on the Omni flying. However, it is -- third quarter is usually not a bad quarter for them. Their busiest month is in October typically for the timing of exercises, but then they tend to fall off after that.

And so it's a more normal pattern. We're getting to that point of the year where there's a contractual increase with the government's fiscal year beginning in October, and that's going to be helpful. So I think we're expecting it to be relatively stable in the second half of the year, similar to the first half.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Ben Rubenstein with Robotti & Company.

[Ben Rubenstein, analyst]

So at the Investor Day last year, you talked about -- you had a slide that showed the estimated carrying value of your planes being $350 million less than the market value. I'm just curious where that stands today.

[Jeffrey Dominick;President, executive]

That was based upon what the cost to convert aircraft is, adjusted for the average age since conversion, and taking into account the useful life post conversion, which is about 20 years-plus. And actually, the cost to convert has gone up since then. Like a lot of things, inflation has affected that. So to produce that fleet of aircraft today has gone up, only gone up since Investor Day. And so as Mike stated a minute ago, the midsized freighter is still in demand as the big driver for that is e-commerce growth, and network flying is where those aircraft are deployed.

So I don't think that's really changed. Of course, the aircraft have aged a little since September, and that depreciation will also be impacted. But if we ran that calculation again today, I don't think that has changed.

[Ben Rubenstein, analyst]

Okay. And then just quick. On the converts due in 2029, is there any willingness or ability to repurchase those?

[Jeffrey Dominick;President, executive]

I guess in terms of buying the converts back or buying stock after -- I mean, what are you...

[Ben Rubenstein, analyst]

I mean, if you could buy them back at a discount, why not do that? I'm just curious if that's something that you guys thought about.

[Jeffrey Dominick;President, executive]

Yes. I mean, I guess anything is possible but those aren't -- that's -- that would have to be something that both parties would want to do and it would be a negotiation obviously.

[Operator]

I would now like to turn the call back over to Mike Berger for any closing remarks.

[Mike Berger;Chief Executive Officer, executive]

Thank you. I want to express my appreciation to all of our employees across the ATSG companies for all the work they do every day for our great company. I also want to give a shout out to all of our customers. Our teams are super focused on delivering customer satisfaction every day.

Since the start of the year, we have emphasized we must execute on our 2024 plan and regain the trust of our investors and shareholders. Very simply, we must do what we say we're going to do, no excuses. We have raised full year guidance to continue to look for growth opportunities and drive further incremental free cash flow. We are executing on this while still growing in our core leasing business. As you heard, we have delivered 8 newly converted freighters so far this year and provided an optimistic view for more deliveries by the end of the year.

Our Lease Plus strategy is unique and brings a powerful solution to the market. We will continue to grow our global presence that is underpinned by connecting key economic and market indicators. In closing, I will say that we're pleased with the improvements we have made so far in 2024, and we have more to capitalize on. Let me be clear: We're not done by any means. Thank you, and have a great day.

[Operator]

This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.