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Q1-2024 Analysis
AST SpaceMobile Inc

Major Milestones and Financial Outlook

AST SpaceMobile discussed its partnership with AT&T, resulting in a revenue-sharing agreement through 2030, and announced the completion of its first 5 Bluebird satellites. The company anticipates $30 million in quarterly operating expenses for 2024 and plans $25-40 million in capital expenditures over the next 2 quarters. The Block 1 satellites are set for a July or August launch and will support nation-wide service. The company has $212.4 million in cash, sufficient for the next 12 months, and is in early stages of securing long-term financing from quasi-government sources.

Introduction to AST SpaceMobile’s Vision and Market

AST SpaceMobile is building the first and only global cellular broadband network in space designed to operate directly with everyday unmodified mobile devices. This initiative aims to solve the significant problem of gaps in coverage experienced by billions of mobile users worldwide, particularly in remote areas where traditional infrastructure is lacking.

Strategic Partnerships and Revenue Model

A major highlight is the definitive commercial agreement with AT&T, which runs through 2030. This agreement marks a significant milestone, setting a revenue share model to provide space-based cellular broadband services to AT&T and their end users. This model is expected to be replicated in various markets around the globe, indicating a scalable approach for future growth【4:5†source】 .

Launch Milestones and Satellite Capabilities

The company is making considerable progress with the development and planned launch of its Block 1 satellites. These five commercial Bluebird satellites, set to be launched around July or August, will enable nationwide non-continuous service across the United States. These satellites offer 10 times the capabilities of their predecessor, BlueWalker 3, and are crucial for achieving the company's commercial goals with fewer satellites .

Operating and Capital Expenditure Guidance

For the first quarter of 2024, AST SpaceMobile reported non-GAAP adjusted cash operating expenses of $31.1 million, down from $38.6 million in the previous quarter. This decrease is attributed to cost control measures and the completion of significant R&D projects. The company projects adjusted cash operating expenses to average around $30 million per quarter through 2024. They also plan capital expenditures between $25 million and $40 million for the next two quarters【4:8†source】 .

Financial Position and Future Strategy

AST SpaceMobile ended the first quarter with $212.4 million in cash and continues to explore strategic financing options, including leveraging existing credit facilities and raising strategic capital. They are confident that their current cash reserves and financing capabilities are sufficient to support their expenditures for at least the next 12 months【4:8†source】 .

Regulatory and Market Approval

The company is actively working with the FCC to secure market access approval in the United States, which will be a significant milestone for commercial operations. Additionally, AST SpaceMobile is encouraged by the FCC’s efforts to prioritize satellite-based telecommunications and is advancing discussions with strategic partners concerning new commercial agreements and prepayments .

Government and Commercial Revenue Initiatives

AST SpaceMobile has also established its first government contract, generating modest revenue in the first quarter, which serves as a framework for future agreements. The company believes that while consumer cellular broadband remains their core focus, government contracts present a meaningful opportunity for revenue growth over time .

Technological Advancements

The development of ASIC chips represents a significant technological advancement for AST SpaceMobile, promising a 10x increase in processing capacity for their satellites. The initial production costs of approximately $15 million will be recognized in future quarters as R&D expenses. These advancements are critical for the scalability and effectiveness of their satellite network【4:5†source】.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2024-Q1

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Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the AST SpaceMobile First Quarter 2024 Business Update Call. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.I would now like to hand the conference over to your host today, Scott Wisniewski, Chief Strategy Officer of AST SpaceMobile. Please go ahead.

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Scott Wisniewski
executive

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Let me refer you to Slide 2 of the presentation, which contains our safe harbor disclaimer. During today's call, we may make certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions, and as a result, are subject to risks and uncertainties. Many factors could cause actual events to differ materially from the forward-looking statements on this call. For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the Risk Factors section of AST SpaceMobile's annual report on Form 10-K for the year that ended December 31, 2023, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and other documents filed by AST SpaceMobile and the SEC from time to time. Also, after our initial remarks, we will be starting our Q&A section with questions submitted in advance by our shareholders.Welcome, everyone. For those of you who may be new to our company and mission, there are over 5 billion mobile phones in use today around the world, but many of us still experience gaps in coverage as we live, work, and travel. Additionally, there are billions of people without cellular broadband and who remain unconnected to the global economy.The markets we are pursuing are massive, and the problem we are solving is important and touches nearly all of us. In this backdrop, AST SpaceMobile is building the first and only global cellular broadband network in space to operate directly with everyday, unmodified mobile devices supported by our extensive IP and patent portfolio.It is now my pleasure to pass it over to Chairman and CEO, Abel Avellan, who will go through our activities since the last public update.

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Abel Avellan
executive

Thank you, Scott. We're happy to be back again with you after 6 weeks since our last business update call. Our most important update to share since our last call is the executions of our first definitive commercial agreement with AT&T. We have signed an agreement with AT&T through 2030 to provide space-based cellular broadband to AT&T and their end users through a revenue share model. This is a major milestone and we look forward for the commercial service with Block 1 and beyond.As this specifically outline the product and pricing models we will go to market with, we expect to replicate variations of these models in various markets around the world. While each might have slightly different features, this is the spirit in which our core customers' offerings is built upon. AT&T has been an incredible partner to us over the last few years, and we look forward to the next stage of our relationship.And in case you didn't see in the master golf broadcast a few weeks ago, you should check out the commercial that AT&T ran with Ben Stiller and Jordan Spieth, showing the benefit of our space-based cellular broadband technology.We're incredibly busy here in Texas as we complete our first 5 commercial satellites. These 5 Bluebird satellites will mark the beginning of our commercial operations. All necessary parts are at our facilities and being integrated into the satellites. This includes the parts from the 2 suppliers, which we discussed on the last call, but has things been resolved. A micro-completion is way underway.So, based on this current timeline, we want to reiterate our guidance from 6 weeks ago that we are on target for July or August delivery of our 5 Block 1 satellites to the Cape Canaveral launch path, with our orbital launch schedule shortly thereafter. Of course, launch timing is subject to many factors, including several outside of our control, but as of today, everything is moving according to the updated schedule. We will share additional progress updates as we approach the launch. With these first 5 satellites, we will have the ability to offer U.S. nationwide noncontinuous service with over 5,600 individual cells using premium low-band spectrum.Let me spend a moment discussing our Block I satellites and the importance of their size and power. These first 5 satellites will be the largest commercial satellites in low-Earth orbit alongside BlueWalker 3. That, combined with the processing capacity of each of them, allowed us to achieve our commercial goals with less than 100 satellites. This will enable cellular broadband everywhere for the phones you have in your pocket. Thanks to the technology we invented, and that is on the way to become the standard that mobile network operators plan to deploy.On the regulatory front, we're working closely with the FCC to secure market access approval in the United States. This will, of course, be a major milestone for us. We are encouraged by the SEC's recent actions to prioritize satellite-based telecommunications, as evidenced by our reflagging to the United States and the other new ruling-making activities.Our B1 application public notice period recently closed, which was a major milestone in the process. We will continue to work closely with the FCC to advance this critical approval process.Additionally, I am very excited as we continue to advance discussions with new strategic partners using commercial prepayments alongside new commercial agreements. We currently have no plans for the remainder of this year to pursue an underwritten public security offering to supplement our existing capital facilities.We also established our first government contract, one that generated modest revenue for AST in the first quarter. Our first commercial revenue, and again, this represent a framework which we can utilize for future government agreements.Simultaneously, we are continuing talks with our first government customers, negotiating additional services we could potentially provide to expand our existing relationships.While the core focus of our strategy is consumer cellular broadband, we do think that the government opportunity is a natural extension of our capabilities and can be very meaningful to our company over time.In summary, we're making progress in all fronts, operationally, commercially, and [ regulatorily ], as we set the foundations of enabling broadband connectivity everywhere for the phones you have in your pocket.And with that, I will pass it to Sean for the financial update.

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Sean Wallace
executive

Thanks, Abel, and good afternoon, everyone. Let's review the key operating metrics for the first quarter that are displayed on Slide 6. On the first chart, we see for the first quarter of 2024, we had non-GAAP adjusted cash operating expenses of $31.1 million versus $38.6 million in the fourth quarter.Non-GAAP adjusted operating expenses exclude certain non-cash operating costs, including depreciation and amortization, and stock-based compensation. In line with our guidance, our first quarter non-GAAP adjusted operating expenses fell by $7.5 million versus the fourth quarter.Our research and development expenses fell by $6.5 million this quarter due to the continued completion of important R&D projects. Our R&D expenses consist primarily of nonrecurring development activities for which we typically engage third-party vendors, and payments are based on the completion of milestones.Our engineering services expenses also fell by $0.6 million, and our general and administrative expenses decreased by $0.4 million in the first quarter as compared to the fourth quarter. We have made a series of cost adjustments to capture about $1 million in engineering services and G&A cost savings.Turning towards the second chart on this page, our capital expenditures for the first quarter were $26.7 million versus $33.9 million for the fourth quarter. The figure was made up of some modest launch payments, capitalized direct materials for the Block 1 satellite, and additional facility and production equipment for our assembly, integration, and test facility in Midland. Capital expenditures trended down as we again moved towards the completion of the Block 1 satellite construction.As of the end of the first quarter, we have spent over 95% of the expected amounts for the 5 Block 1 satellites. We are still projecting total spend of approximately $150 million for the 5 BB1 satellites.And on the final chart on the slide, we ended the first quarter with $212.4 million in cash. We are continuing to pursue using the balance of our senior credit facility, which has a gross amount of $51.5 million available. As I mentioned at the end of March, efforts around raising strategic capital may take precedence over the senior credit facility, and at a minimum, the continued deferment has reduced a bit of the negative carry we would have incurred if we had accessed the facility earlier. Our ability to access this facility is subject to certain conditions and approvals.As we stated in our 10-Q, we believe this cash, as well as our ability to raise capital through our existing facilities, is sufficient to support our expenditures for at least the next 12 months. As we have also discussed in our 10-Q, our cost positions and capital plans are quite modular, and this characteristic provides us the flexibility to increase or decrease our rate of expenditures depending upon changes in our build-out plans and availability of capital. This flexibility provides us comfort that we can manage our liquidity profile dynamically depending on our rate of raising capital.In March, we provided guidance on our expected operating expense levels. As we discussed earlier, we have been supporting the development efforts of our 2 critical satellite designs, Block 1 and Block 2, our ASIC chip design, and the construction of 5 BB1 satellites. The completion of this BB1 work and a significant portion of the BB2 and ASIC design work is expected to result in a material reduction in our adjusted operating expenses and future capital expenditures. This reduction in cash expenditures will be done without a material reduction in our employee headcount, as most of these reductions are related to the completion of third-party work.As I mentioned during the fourth quarter earnings call, we now project that our cash, adjusted cash operating expenses will come in at around an average of $30 million per quarter for 2024 as the Block 1 design is completed and the Block 2 design approaches completion. These figures will vary depending upon manufacturing activity in each period.This guidance does not include the expected cost of approximately $15 million related to the tape out and initial production of our ASIC chips. These ASIC-related costs will be recognized as an R&D expense in subsequent quarters in 2024 as the milestones are completed.We also plan to reduce our outlook for capital expenditures as we reach the final investments for BB1. For the next 2 quarters, we expect to spend in the aggregate approximately $25 million to $40 million in capital expenditures. Any increase beyond these levels will be in conjunction with the timing of the deployment of our Block 2 satellites, which could be either in late 2024 or the first quarter of 2025.Timing of the changes in our adjusted operating expenditures and capital expenditures, as I've just described, could be delayed or may not be realized due to a variety of factors.As I discussed in our last earnings call, we continue to work with our advisors on developing a financing package from quasi-government sources, including export credit agencies. Satellite and other infrastructure providers have historically utilized these agencies to source cost-effective long-term debt funding of large projects.The key underpinning of these funding structures has been proven technology and the sale of significant capacity through long-term agreements to large credit-worthy entities. We remain focused on developing a structure and creating an information package that will support our potential financings.We are encouraged by the progress we are making but we are still in very early stages, and there can be no assurance that we'll be successful in the pursuit of this type of funding.And with that, this completes the presentation component of our earnings call, and I pass it back to Scott.

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Scott Wisniewski
executive

Thank you, Sean. Before we go to the queue of analyst questions, we'd like to address a few of the questions submitted by our investors.Operator, could you please start us off with the first question?

Operator

[ Liden ] from New Zealand asked, what milestones should investors look out for?

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Scott Wisniewski
executive

Thank you, [ Liden ]. Looking ahead to the remainder of 2024, I think the biggest milestones to look out for are the launch and successful operation of our Block 1 satellites, market access, regulatory approval in the United States, commercial agreements with additional MNO partners, and then further progress on our government program. We're really set up for an exciting summer here, and we look forward to sharing updates on these milestones with you as they occur.

Operator

[ Jordan ] from North Carolina asked, it was reported that the FCC will be publishing the official report and order for SCS services. Can you please explain if this rule and the FCC approval for Q/V spectrum backhaul are required conditions for the completion of definitive agreements with AT&T, FirstNet, or other MNOs?

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Scott Wisniewski
executive

Thank you, [ Jordan ]. This is certainly not a requirement for commercial agreements as demonstrated by the commercial agreement we announced today with AT&T. When we go to the FCC or really any regulator globally, we go with our in-country partner and they further support the technology and validate the case that we're making. The FCC has been moving incredibly fast here in establishing rules for directed device, and we've been working with them for a long time on that. And we believe that this is going to ensure that our technology can be utilized once it's available commercially. And our MNO partners fully understand the process of the regulator and are even much closer to them than us, and they're comfortable that our system will be regulated and usable.

Operator

[ Liden ] from New Zealand asked, is AST focusing on fundraising from past partners or new partners?

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Abel Avellan
executive

[ Liden ], thanks for the question. First of all, we're very proud of the strategic support that we have. We have Vodafone who had invested 3x in our company. Rakuten & American Tower twice. AT&T, Google, and Bell Canada have all invested. The reinforcing notion AST is the industry leader of this technology that we invented, direct-to-device, on a global basis. We are super excited about where we are with new and old strategic partners. We have around 50 operators on a global basis that we have MOUs and agreements of understanding and relationships. There's a lot of excitement from them in what do we mean for the plans and for providing universal connectivity to every regular cell phone. So we're excited. We're excited. We are bullish about where we are in that process with them. And we are turning more into operational agreements similar to what we did with AT&T. There are more definitive commercial agreements. The commercial agreements are planned to include prepayments that are going to be fundamental for the continued build-out of our network.

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Scott Wisniewski
executive

And with that, I'd like to thank our shareholders for submitting these questions. Operator, let's open the call to analyst questions now.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Mike Crawford with B. Riley Securities.

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Michael Crawford
analyst

I'm glad to hear you're on track on these launch milestones. Can you provide us any additional color on how you expect to fly the first 5 BlueBirds? Would that be in, like, a string of pearls formation or more spread out? And would it potentially enable access in, say, Bell Canada service area or just in the U.S.?

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Abel Avellan
executive

Thank you, Michael. Well, we will -- we are facing them in a way that will prioritize the United States and also some government applications that we have. The configuration will be initially as we deploy it out of the launchers in a string of pearls. There are certain configurations that we are tailoring for the usage of these 5 satellites. And then as we move on time after the launch, we will spread them evenly as part of the next launches that will complement the constellation. What we're prioritizing is the 53-degree inclination that gives us access to a 59-degrees of latitude all the way to the equator and from the equator to minus 59-degrees of latitude with this configuration.

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Michael Crawford
analyst

And then how -- I think, the first Block 2 satellite, will just be a single satellite that launches, and then after that maybe they're in groups of 4, perhaps, depending on launch vehicle used?

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Abel Avellan
executive

Yes, they will be -- they -- we launch in group of 4 or 5. We're in the process of working on that for the next batch. And Block 2 are larger. I mean, Block 1 are already the largest objects in space. That's why we need few of them. And I think the only thing bigger than us is the ISS in LEO. So we're launching 5 this summer, and then we're moving blocks of 4 on the bigger configuration, that is the second version and the upgraded version for Block 2.

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Michael Crawford
analyst

And then final one from me is, can you just remind us what levels of service you envision being able to provide at different quantities of satellites in your space mobile constellation?

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Abel Avellan
executive

Yes. The type of service that we actually can enable, regardless of the number of satellites, it's the same. So what it changes how often you have an above [ you ] that you can use it. So we -- this is a broadband service. It's a full data service. We have worked with our partners to enable voice data, Internet download. I don't know if you see it, we were able to -- we were streaming videos directly from the satellite to regular phones. So this is a full broadband experience. What it changed, as we add satellite, is for how long you can enjoy that during the day. But with these 5 satellites, we would [ Audio Gap ] [ else ] across all United States. Of course, they will not be available all the time. There will be no continuous service only with 5 satellites. But as we add more satellites, that persistence of the service keeps increasing as we launch more.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Bryan Kraft with Deutsche Bank.

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Bryan Kraft
analyst

I just wanted to ask you on the new AT&T -- on AT&T agreement, can you talk about what the key elements of the agreement structure are? Is it consistent with the 50-50 revenue share model you've talked about historically? Is this just formalizing the MOU you already had? Are the terms any different? And is there any impact on the $20 million in prepaid revenue that you'll be getting from AT&T later this year? In other words, will there be additional prepaid revenue that maybe is coming in as part of this agreement?

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Abel Avellan
executive

Yes. Well, first of all, I'm super happy with having to complete a definitive agreement with AT&T. This is an oncoming project for us. It's the conclusion of all the tests, pricing discovery, understanding of the usage. We believe that it's a significant part of the U.S. population that will be willing to pay for the service as they move in and out of connectivity in the U.S. So we have a -- we had a multitude of packages. We are disclosing that together with AT&T, so we're not going to be able to disclose the packages, but there are packages where, yes, they'll sell you to a revenue share, as we historically have discussed. These packages allow users to get text, voice, full broadband internet, and it's priced accordingly, depending on the amount of service that the user is willing to pay. It is designed to be used everywhere in North America and to offer a broadband experience. And how much of that broadband experience depends on how much the user is paying. It's frictionless, so the user doesn't need any special phone. User doesn't need any special package. It will be all what he will see is a different symbol in the 5G icon with an S, something similar that indicate that you're on satellite. But other than that, the user doesn't need to do anything. So we're very excited about this. AT&T has done a significant amount of market stories on how to price it together with us and how to position it in order to maximize the take on the service.

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Bryan Kraft
analyst

Anything on the prepaid revenue? Is it still just the $20 million, or I just was curious if there was any incremental financing coming from this? And then I guess the other follow-up I had is just, can you give us a sense as to when you think the service will actually be available? Will that be sometime next year? Or how are you thinking about that?

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Scott Wisniewski
executive

Sure, I'll jump in. First on the deal structure, I think, Abel walked through some of the finer points, but this is a term through 2030. This is a definitive agreement, which means that it's a document that's a legal vehicle through which revenue will be brought in with all the detailed SLAs and other legal requirements in a real commercial agreement. So it's very powerful from that perspective because it means that both companies have aligned around how this offering will occur in many ways. So that's the key element.In terms of prepayments, we reiterated the same prepayment that came in in January, right? So there's no new economics with this agreement right now other than laying out the vehicle through which we'll be able to generate revenue when our services is available. And I'll refer back to Abel's comments on the go-to-market strategy and doing that jointly with our customer, we're not prepared to announce a timeline. But as we've said, these 5 satellites going up are commercial satellites. They have 10x the capabilities of BlueWalker 3. And after several months of preparations, they will be commercial ready. So this is something for us that's technology driven, and we want to get this up as fast as possible.

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Abel Avellan
executive

Yes. While using these 5 satellites, we are already starting some initial revenue with the government, with BlueWalker 3. They will continue on AT&T and others. Hopefully, we'll disclose soon. We'll start using these 5 satellites as a commercial operating satellite. Of course, that revenue plan to increase significantly as we add more satellites. But we will start monetizing these satellites commercially in the U.S. and in other key regions as we continue progressing and signing definitive agreements with the operators. And those definitive agreements, we expect them to have prepayment features that are a key part of how we keep continue financing the constellation.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Andres Coello with Scotiabank.

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Andres Coello
analyst

You just mentioned other regions, I guess, that if the 5 satellites will cover the United States, they can also cover parts of Europe, perhaps Japan, perhaps part of northern Mexico. So I'm just wondering if covering the U.S. also gives you capabilities in other parts of the world for these 5 satellites.

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Abel Avellan
executive

That is correct. I mean, these 5 satellites have -- they're inclined at 53 degrees of inclination. What they mean is they pass, they circle the Earth constantly, and they cover everything plus minus 53 -- 59 degrees of latitude. That's from Canada all the way to Argentina, in the Americas, from South Africa all the way to Northern Europe and Japan. So yes, these sadly have global coverage. We're starting with 5. We're very careful of where we start initiating services with customers. We're prioritizing customers that are signing definitive agreements with prepayments. And -- but we have the ability to do that globally in the U.S., in Europe, in Africa, in Asia, and that's how we're prioritizing the usage of these very valuable assets.

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Andres Coello
analyst

And just confirming, it's going to be a string of pearls, correct? The configuration is going to be a string of pearls?

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Abel Avellan
executive

At the beginning, yes. If we add more satellites, we're going to be facing them out in the planes where we're putting them up.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Schoell with UBS.

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Christopher Schoell
analyst

Just a few follow-ups. As you think about measuring success on the first 5 Block 1 satellites, any guardrails you can give in terms of expected revenue generation and over what time frame?And then second question, historically we've seen the wireless carriers bundle value-added services into their premium offerings. Do you think a similar hard bundle approach could be taken with your service, or do you still expect that customers will need to opt in?

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Abel Avellan
executive

We are basing our offering as an add-on service to the user. Of course, every country, every operator have their own plan and their own methodology of how to monetize the service and how to differentiate it in each of the respective markets. But fundamentally, this is an add-on service with a very low friction to opt in and start paying for it. The customers, as I said earlier, doesn't need to basically know anything other than he's out of connectivity and that he's willing to pay for getting that connectivity. So if you think about it, you get your monthly bill. It's a line item in your monthly bill that it would be a space model as you move around the Earth in places where there's no connectivity or the connectivity is not good enough.

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Christopher Schoell
analyst

And just to follow-up, maybe just on the first 5 satellites, any sort of guardrails you're thinking of in terms of the revenue generation and how quickly that can scale into the end of this year?

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Scott Wisniewski
executive

Chris, we're not going to be providing revenue guidance at this time, but these first 5 satellites are commercial ready. We've talked about our government customer. Obviously, we announced our commercial agreement today. There's revenue potential that's real on these first 5 satellites. But again, it's not our focus, right? We believe that the big opportunity is as we scale the system. So to a certain extent, we're not focused on the revenue opportunity for the first 5, but you'll start to see it come in. But you'll see our focus be on what does service look like with more satellites? And that points you back to the agreement today. It's all about how do you provide a mass market solution to a broad consumer base, right? And that's where the focus will be. That's where the big revenue opportunity is for us. And so we won't be as focused on just the first 5. We'll be focused on continuing to build out the constellation.

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Chris Quilty with Quilty Space.

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Christopher Quilty
analyst

I was hoping you could give an update on your ASIC development.

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Abel Avellan
executive

Yes, Chris. I mean, we are -- we have been taped out for 1.5 months already. It's a process of around 3 months -- 3 months to 4 months. We are ready to receive our chip. This chip will have another 10x increase in the processing capacity of our satellites. As a reminder, BlueWalker 3 had a 100 megahertz of processing bandwidth. Block 1 satellites that we have now that we're planning to launch very quickly here. They had a 10x DAC capacity using FPGAs. And the next generation of the Block 2s, we had another 10x increase to a 10 gigahertz of processing bandwidth per satellite. So that's very significant step up. But we're using -- we have the ability to keep using our FPGAs for as long as needed, but we are in the tail-end process of receiving our chip.

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Christopher Quilty
analyst

And on the operating expenses, it looks like you've made some nice reductions. Is the current quarter a good run rate, or are some of the cost-cutting effects going to accrue as the year plays out?

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Sean Wallace
executive

I'll take that.

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Abel Avellan
executive

Yes, Sean, why don't you take that?

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Sean Wallace
executive

Yes, as we mentioned in March, we are going to probably average somewhere around $30 million. We came in a little over $31 million order. Just the one caveat is there's $15 million of expenses that kind of we paid for but haven't been run through the income statement on ASIC. But we have targeted to R&D, engineering services, and GA and keep it around a $30 million run rate probably through the end of the year.

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Christopher Quilty
analyst

And Abel, did you get a picture with Ben Stiller?

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Abel Avellan
executive

Well, we want to invite our investors to the launch. And let's see. Let's see he's available.

Operator

At this time, I'm showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.

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Scott Wisniewski
executive

Thank you, operator. Our company is building a space-based cellular broadband network designed for the use of the phone in your pocket today. I want to thank everyone for joining, both the shareholders and the analysts, for their questions. I hope everybody has a great rest of the week. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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