Algoma Steel Group Inc

NASDAQ:ASTL

Earnings Call Analysis

Algoma Steel Q1 Revenue Decline Amid Market Challenges, EAF Project Progressing

Algoma Steel's fiscal Q1 2025 revenue dropped by 20.8% to $597 million, influenced by market headwinds and planned plate mill maintenance, leading to a shipment decline of 11.6%. EBITDA landed at $37.7 million with a margin of 5.8%. Despite these challenges, liquidity was strengthened by a USD 350 million notes offering, ending the quarter with $845 million available. The Electric Arc Furnace (EAF) project progresses well, targeting commissioning in late 2024, aiming for full production by 2027, marking a significant step towards greener steel production.

Navigating Challenging Market Conditions

Algoma Steel faced a tough first fiscal quarter of 2025 amidst challenging market conditions. Steel revenue diminished by 20.8% year-over-year, totaling CAD 597 million. This decline was principally attributed to a planned maintenance outage at the plate and strip facility, resulting in a shipment decrease of 11.6% to 503,000 net tonnes. These operational constraints coupled with lower steel prices saw net sales realization drop by 10.4%, averaging CAD 1,187 per tonne.

Cost Pressures and Cash Flow Challenges

The company’s cost per tonne of steel sold increased by 12.5% to CAD 1,069, mainly due to reduced volumes and higher costs from sourcing coke and natural gas. Consequently, cash flow from operations plummeted to CAD 12.5 million compared to CAD 163.9 million in the prior year period, primarily driven by lower operating income. Although inventories slightly decreased from CAD 808 million to CAD 800 million, Algoma anticipates a release of at least CAD 100 million in working capital throughout fiscal 2025.

Strategic Liquidity and Debt Management

Algoma has fortified its balance sheet considerably through a USD 350 million note offering, resulting in cash on hand of CAD 493 million and total liquidity exceeding CAD 845 million when combined with the undrawn credit facility. This robust liquidity is crucial as the company approaches the completion of its Electric Arc Furnace (EAF) project. Furthermore, Algoma is in close collaboration with insurance providers to recover from damages incurred during past incidents, expecting an advanced payment of CAD 25 million for property damage claims.

Progressing Towards Electric Arc Furnace Production

A highlight of Algoma’s strategic direction is the advancement of the EAF project, expected to revolutionize its production structure. Progress is on track, with the company nearing the commissioning phase set for the fourth quarter of the calendar year 2025. As of now, cumulative investment in this transformative project has reached CAD 611 million out of a projected CAD 875 million budget. The successful transition to EAF production is anticipated to enhance production capacity to about 3 million tonnes annually while significantly reducing carbon emissions.

Outlook and Revenue Growth

Despite the current headwinds, specifically reduced pricing and demand, Algoma remains optimistic about future production volumes. Following a planned maintenance outage, production is projected to ramp up to 90,000 tonnes in the second fiscal quarter, aiming for a stable return to past operational levels. CEO Michael Garcia indicated readiness to leverage the company’s operational capabilities to meet consumer demand as the market recovers, although near-term pricing catalysts remain uncertain.

Future Financial Benefits and Tax Considerations

As Algoma moves toward full EAF operations, expected reduction in cash taxes due to accelerated depreciation will further bolster its financial position. Anticipated lower effective tax rates will provide a significant cash flow advantage, especially beneficial during the initial operational phase of the EAF. Ongoing discussions with the Ontario Energy Board regarding the construction of a key power line will play a pivotal role in maximizing production efficiency by 2027.

Conclusion: Commitment to Operational Excellence

Overall, Algoma Steel is navigating through a period of transformation while maintaining dedication to operational safety and excellence. The strategic shift towards electric arc furnace technology underscores its commitment to sustainability and market responsiveness. As the company aims to solidify its competitive market position, attention remains focused on enhancing shareholder value through improved operational efficiencies and sustainable production practices.

Earnings Call Transcript 2025-Q1

[Operator]

Greetings, and welcome to the Algoma Steel Group Fiscal First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the call over to Michael Moraca, Vice President, Corporate Development and Treasurer. Thank you, Michael. You may begin.

[Michael Moraca, executive]

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Algoma Steel Group Inc.'s First Quarter Fiscal 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Leading today's call are Michael Garcia, our Chief Executive Officer; and Rajat Marwah, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay later today in the Investors section of Algoma Steel's website.

I would like to remind you that comments made on today's call may contain forward-looking statements within the meanings of applicable securities laws, which involve assumptions and inherent risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from statements made today. In addition, our financial statements are prepared in accordance with IFRS, which differs from U.S. GAAP, and our discussion today includes references to certain non-IFRS financial measures.

Last evening, we posted an earnings presentation to accompany today's prepared remarks. The slides for today's call can be found in the Investors section of our corporate website. With that in mind, I would ask everyone on today's call to read the legal disclaimers on Slide 2 of the accompanying earnings presentation and also to refer to the risks and assumptions outlined in Algoma Steel's first quarter fiscal 2025 management's discussion and analysis.

Please note that our financial statements are prepared using the U.S. dollar as our functional currency and the Canadian dollar as our presentation currency. Our fiscal year runs from April 1 to March 31, and our financial statements have been prepared for the quarters ended June 30, 2024 and June 30, 2023. Please note, all amounts referred to on today's call are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted.

Following our prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I will now turn over the call to our Chief Executive Officer, Michael Garcia. Mike?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Thank you, Mike. Good morning, and thank you for joining us to discuss our fiscal first quarter 2025 results. Ensuring the safety of our employees remains a core value and top priority for our company. This unwavering commitment led to significant improvements in our lost time injury performance during fiscal 2024, with continued focus into the current fiscal year.

Our focus on safety is more crucial than ever, as our site continues to be a hub of activity with the EAF project advancing. This dedication is further emphasized in Algoma's second annual ESG report released this past Monday, which delves into a wide range of topics across the spectrum of environmental, social and governance in greater detail. The report highlights our ongoing efforts not only in maintaining safety standards, but also in advancing our broader ESG commitments, reinforcing our role as a leader in sustainable and responsible business practices.

Next, I'll cover the key events and milestones during our fiscal first quarter as well as give an update on the progress at our transformative EAF project. I will then turn the call over to Rajat for a deeper dive into the numbers and a discussion of our strong liquidity and balance sheet before closing with an update on market conditions.

There are a few important themes I would like to get across on this call. First, our results for the quarter reflected overall conditions in steel markets, resulting in lower volumes and realized prices. Shipment volumes were also softer, reflecting the planned outage at our plate and strip facility in April. We prioritized plate production coming out of the outage and expect that we will continue to ramp up volumes over the next several quarters.

Second, our balance sheet and liquidity are strong, having been bolstered by our USD 350 million notes offering in April, leaving us with cash at quarter end of almost $500 million and total liquidity of over $800 million. We are well funded to complete our EAF project.

And finally, the EAF project is approaching a truly exciting milestone, nearing the planned beginning of commissioning of Unit 1 in our calendar fourth quarter. Every day that goes by derisks the project and brings us another step closer to being one of the greenest producers of steel in North America.

Now let me give you some additional color on those key themes. Our results for fiscal first quarter of 2025 were in line with our previously disclosed guidance for both shipments and adjusted EBITDA. They reflected a continuation of the challenging market conditions we have seen this year in steel pricing. We are laser-focused on ensuring the safe operation of our existing legacy facilities, some of which are over 70 years old, as we make the transition to EAF steelmaking.

All told, the combination of lower shipments and softer realized steel prices led to an overall decline in revenues, adjusted EBITDA and cash flow generation versus the prior year period.

As discussed on our last call, during the quarter, we successfully completed substantially all of the remaining upgrades related to the modernization of our plate mill. This upgrade involves installing new equipment across the facility that has enhanced product quality and is resulting in a steady ramp to higher plate shipments.

Despite the facility being off-line for 3 weeks, our plate shipments in the first fiscal quarter of 2025 were approximately 61,000 tonnes. The second phase of our 2-part plate mill modernization project originally called for a final multi-week outage later this year. However, our team was able to accelerate additional work during this outage, so that the vast majority of the modernization project at the facility is now substantially complete.

We expect any remaining items to be addressed with other planned maintenance activities over the coming year. We expect our fiscal second quarter plate production to be close to 90,000 tonnes as we execute a steady ramp over the balance of the fiscal year towards our expected annual run rate capacity of over 650,000 net tonnes.

With our previously announced exit from the wide coil market during our 2025 fiscal year, we will be in a position to prioritize plate production and sales, taking advantages of our position as Canada's only discrete producer of plate products. This should result in a more favorable product mix that is expected to drive meaningful margin enhancement. With the maintenance outages on the blast furnace and the plate mill upgrade complete, our operations are running normally, and we continue to expect solid production levels in the second half of calendar 2024.

In April, we completed a USD 350 million note offering, which bolstered our liquidity position substantially as we enter the home stretch of our EAF project construction. Cash on hand at quarter end was almost $0.5 billion. And when combined with our undrawn credit facility, gives us great flexibility and security to execute our strategic growth strategy.

Now let me give you an update on our progress during the quarter on our electric arc furnace project. This is a truly exciting time in Sault Ste. Marie as we continue to see the skyline change at the site of the EAF, with the exterior sheeting closing the building in anticipation of commissioning activities commencing by the end of this year.

With EAF steel production expected by the end of the calendar first quarter of next year, we will begin to ramp towards a shipping capacity of approximately 3 million tonnes per year.

During the quarter, cumulative investment in the EAF project reached $611 million. To date, we have committed contracts totaling approximately $850 million, with over 90% tied to fixed price contracts. Progress to date on both the construction of the project and the contracted portion of work yet to be completed has significantly derisked the project budget. We expect that all remaining contracted work will be settled during the current quarter.

As a reminder, our start-up plant continues to include normal production from our existing steelmaking facility while ramping up steel production from our EAF in calendar 2025, followed by a complete switch to EAF production.

In summary, in very tough market conditions, we focused on what was within our control in the quarter, operating our existing facilities safely, completing the important upgrades at our plate mill and advancing the EAF project on schedule and on budget. Near-term pricing weakness can't dampen our excitement for what's happening at our company and the huge step forward it represents for Algoma Steel and our community.

I'd like to once again thank all our employees for their hard work, dedication and professionalism. Now I will pass the call over to Rajat to go over our financial results for the quarter. Rajat?

[Rajat Marwah, executive]

Thanks, Mike. Good morning, and thank you all for joining the call. As a reminder, all numbers are expressed in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Our first quarter results included adjusted EBITDA of $37.7 million, which reflects an adjusted EBITDA margin of 5.8% and cash generated from operating activities of $12.5 million. We finished the quarter with a strong balance sheet, including $493 million of cash and availability of $351 million under our revolving credit facility.

Now let me dive into the key drivers of our performance. Steel revenue of $597 million in the quarter, down 20.8% versus the prior year period. We shipped 503,000 net tonnes in the quarter, down 11.6% versus the prior year quarter. The decrease in shipments was largely attributable to the planned maintenance outage at our plate and strip facility as we work to complete the final stages of our plate mill modernization project.

Net sales realization averaged $1,187 per tonne, down 10.4% versus the prior year period. The decrease versus the prior year level reflects weaker market conditions, partially offset by improvement in our value-added product mix as a proportion of steel sales.

On the cost side, Algoma's cost per tonne of steel products sold averaged $1,069 in the quarter, up 12.5% versus the prior year period. The main drivers of the increase versus the prior year period include lower volume, the cost of replacing internally produced coke with purchased coke and higher natural gas.

Cash flow from operations totaled $12.5 million for the quarter, as compared to $163.9 million in the prior year period. The main drivers of the decrease in cash flow in the quarter was lower operating income. Inventories at the quarter end were $800 million, down modestly from $808 million at the end of the 2024 fiscal year. We remain focused on driving down working capital levels and continue to expect a release of at least $100 million in fiscal 2025.

Next, I'll remind you of the financing activity we completed in early April. Our wholly owned subsidiary, ASI, issued and aggregated USD 350 million of 9.125% senior secured second lien notes due April 2029. This move enhanced the strength and flexibility of our balance sheet and reflects the positive view that credit investors have of our company and their confidence in our strategic direction and financial stability.

All told, the company had cash of $493 million and unused availability under the revolving credit facility of $351 million, representing approximately $845 million of liquidity plus approximately $45 million available on our strategic innovation fund loan supporting the EAF project.

One additional note on the insurance recovery related to the coke-making corridor collapse in January. We continue to work closely with our insurance providers and adjusters as they complete their assessments. While claims of this nature require a detailed adjudication process, we have made progress on the property damage component and expect to receive an advanced payment of $25 million in the current quarter as we work through the balance of both the business interruption and property damage claim.

Now I'll turn the call back to Mike Garcia, our CEO, for closing remarks.

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Thanks, Rajat. Looking at the state of the North American steel market, prices have generally weakened through the spring and into the summer. While prices have shown signs of stabilizing somewhat since late July, we do expect that these prices will generate headwinds on earnings performance over the near term.

Softer market conditions in the last few months reflect ample spot supply, short lead times, economic uncertainty and cautious buying during the typically slower summer buying season. As we wait for these headwinds to abate, we will continue to focus on what we can control: operating our facilities safely and positioning ourselves to best capture market opportunities as they arise.

We have been on this journey to bring electric arc furnace steelmaking to Sault Ste. Marie for close to 5 years. Our entire company is energized as we approach this major milestone. In the months ahead, we will continue to relentlessly focus on the safe operation of our existing facilities while executing the commissioning of our transformative EAF project.

Our strategic vision in undertaking this endeavor is expected to unlock significant shareholder value while delivering some of the greenest steel in North America. Thank you very much for your continued interest in Algoma Steel.

At this point, we would be happy to take your questions. Operator, please give the instructions for the Q&A session.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from David Ocampo with Cormark Securities.

[David Ocampo, analyst]

Maybe first one here for Rajat. We're getting closer to the EAF coming online. I was wondering if you could help us understand the duplicate costs that you guys will incur during hybrid phase? And then the second part of the question is what do unit economics look like once we're a full EAF operator? Is that scrap plus $200 to $220 of conversion cost? I think that's a number you've alluded to in the past. So just hoping that you could refresh us on those metrics.

[Rajat Marwah, executive]

Sure, David, and thanks for the question. So as we transition through the EAF, the major cost change that will happen while we are running in the transformative mode is the labor cost from a fixed cost perspective. And then the gap -- the difference between purchasing scrap or producing hot iron internally.

The way we see it is that next year when we start producing from both the furnaces, which is the blast furnaces running at their current capacity and EAF adding tonnes as we ramp up. Our cost on a per tonne basis will come down because there will be more volume. But on absolute terms, the cost will be -- on a fixed basis will be very similar. Variable, will vary based on some of the index contracts that we have in scrap purchase.

But on a fixed cost basis, it will be very similar to what we have right now because the number of people that we need to run the furnace is already in the current cost that you're seeing there here, they're getting trained, they are writing SOPs and so on and so forth.

So our cost will, on a per tonne basis will come down as we start producing more and shipping more during the transformative period. And when we get to the stage where we shut down the blast furnace and get into only electric arc furnace, there will be substantial savings on the fixed cost side as people will go out to match with the operational capabilities. We will look at scrap plus $200 to $220 in the very similar range, as I mentioned earlier, from our full cost perspective.

[David Ocampo, analyst]

Okay. And I think if we're thinking about the reduction in headcount, I think it was close to 1,000 employees, if I'm not mistaken. Can you update us on how that's going to be achieved? Or is there going to be sizable transition costs as it relates to reducing headcount?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

David, this is Mike. Yes, I mean, the most impactful savings or changes that will happen from a headcount perspective will be when we no longer are operating our blast furnace and coke ovens. There will be some smaller adjustments on some of the supporting departments such as maintenance and some of the infrastructure support departments. But your headcount number is about right.

And from a execution standpoint, it's relatively straightforward when you no longer run an asset or a department that it's well laid out in the CBA what happens to those employees as they leave the company, they retain some recall rights within the collective bargaining unit for a period of time. And the cost of making that headcount reduction is pretty well laid out in the CBAs, and we have good visibility to it.

[David Ocampo, analyst]

Okay. That's helpful. And then Michael, while I have you, just on the $25 million that's left to contract, what's the risk that you guys potentially go over budget? Just wanted to know what the worst-case scenario would look like either order of magnitude or even what could go wrong.

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Sure. Yes. So we've made commitments and put contracts in place representing CAD 850 million. And our goal and expectation is to place the remaining commitments and contracts needed for completion of the project within the remaining range of the budget, which is $25 million. We've got a small number of contracts to place that will complete kind of the installation of the -- and construction of the facility.

All the equipment is already on site. Everything is going into place. We're at a pretty heavy busy time in terms of the project construction and installation. The building is -- the exterior of the building is largely complete, the tie-in to the adjacent operations is largely complete. Transformers in the first EAF furnace are in place. Those are 9 transformers with Q1 technology. The cranes are being -- many of the cranes are already being commissioned as we speak.

So the intention of the team is to get those last installation and construction contracts placed within the budget. We have about less than 10% of the total budget is -- and commitments or contracts are time and material. So there's always a little bit of risk in execution of time and material contracts that if you don't -- if you consume more time or more materials, then you will have the risk of a budget overrun. So we're managing that very closely. And that's one of the things that the project team is focused on.

Again, that's probably within the scope of the entire budget. That's $60 million to maybe $70 million of the total cost. So the risk is on that number. So I think at this point, we're in the home stretch of the project. We're focused on execution. We're focused on placing these last bit of contracts for the installation and construction. And our intention is to finish it within that $875 million number. So it's hard to put a measure on the risk, but we're focused very closely on finishing this project at CAD $875 million.

[David Ocampo, analyst]

Okay. It sounds like the time and materials is tracking in line with your expectations so far. Is that correct?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Yes. Yes. And we brought in a project coordinator, EllisDon, to help us with the management of that time and material piece as well as the overall scheduling and pacing of all the different construction and installation activities going on throughout the project site. And they've been on board for over 1.5 years. So they've been a great addition to the team.

[Operator]

Our next question is from Katja Jancic with BMO Capital Markets.

[Katja Jancic, analyst]

Maybe starting on the plate ramp-up. So second quarter, you expect 90,000 tonnes. How should we think about the ramp-up in the rest of the year?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Well, I think from a production standpoint and a capability standpoint, we feel really good about where we are. The mill came out of the April outage, I think it's a 22-day outage. The mill came up very smoothly from that outage. We're really delighted with the capabilities and the performance of the mill. We're still working on some of the shear line pacing to make sure that the shear line is performing well, but that's not a limitation to our actual shipments or production because we have not yet shut down the gas cutting line. So from a production standpoint, we are real happy about where we're sitting.

I think the main challenge right now, frankly, is the market. We're in a soft market and the commercial team, although we're getting great reception on the quality of our plate and the delivery performance of our plate mill, demand is not necessarily robust right now. There's still a $300-plus spread on plate pricing versus coil. So we feel good about that.

But we're facing a little bit of a soft market right now. So I think that our current expectation for that 90,000 tonne quarter is in place. And ramp up for the end of the year, we'll probably be a little bit lower in the next quarter after this current quarter because of -- we are taking a small maintenance outage in the mill. So that's the way we're seeing our plate business right now.

[Katja Jancic, analyst]

And can you remind us how much of your plate volume goes into the U.S. market?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

About 30%. And that's not strictly 30% month after month, but around 30% throughout the whole year.

[Katja Jancic, analyst]

And then maybe, Mike, you mentioned initially, pricing environment is soft. We're currently in a seasonally slower demand period. How should we think about near-term shipments in total? Last quarter in part, you were impacted by the plate maintenance or upgrade. What about this quarter? How should we think about shipments?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Yes, Katja, thank you. I think they'll be directionally higher. The operations are performing well. The commercial team is working hard to keep our customers supplied. I think that we don't see -- we know where pricing is right now. I don't see any near-term catalyst for increased pricing over the balance of the year, and that's probably going to be the same around demand, but it will certainly be directionally higher in the quarter to come.

And this is a time during the current market environment where we're focused on completing the EAF project and we have all the liquidity we need even in the current market conditions to complete the project on time and on budget.

[Katja Jancic, analyst]

And maybe if I just make one last one. You announced that you're relaunching the NCIB. Will this -- would you be willing to use some of the available liquidity given that it's pretty large right now? Or is this going to be tied more to free cash flow generation?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Well, I think we need -- we wanted to put the -- reinstate the NCIB to give us the flexibility to do both of those, to buy -- to return capital to shareholders, to buy shares of the company when we think it's a good time to buy. We're mindful of our liquidity position. We need to finish the EAF project and continue to execute on our strategic transformation, but we're always mindful of our capital allocation strategy. So we think the NCIB being in place gives us the flexibility to pursue that.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Ian Gillies with Stifel.

[Ian Gillies, analyst]

As you think about using the NCIB and whether the stock is expensive or inexpensive as a baseline, do you think about your production being 2.2 million tonnes, 2.7 million tonnes or something closer to 3 million tonnes as a baseline for setting that value of when to figure whether the stock is inexpensive or not to go and use that?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Well, I mean -- that's a great question. I think we are building this company to be a 3 million plus -- 3 million finished goods steel company of plate and DSPC. And that's the value we are creating, and that's going to be enabled by completing these EAF furnaces and starting them up successfully in 2025 and then reaching 2.4 million tonnes of EAF production sometime in 2026. We've got the power secured to do that. So there's no limitations from the power. And so that's how we kind of think of the value we're creating and our view of the value of the company.

Now we aren't there yet. We've got to complete the project and get it started up. But I think where we've gotten to over the last 5 years that we've been on this journey, we are in a really exciting place right now and we'll be making EAF steel in another -- just over 6 months.

[Rajat Marwah, executive]

And Ian, just another comment. I think our valuation is low, and it's not a surprise. It's -- and -- and it will go up as we complete our EAF and it's reflective in what others -- what normally the trading levels are. So I think it's pretty clear, but our focus definitely is always, as Mike said, completing this project and making sure we have enough money to complete it.

[Ian Gillies, analyst]

Understood. As we move into calendar '25, Rajat, do we -- can you help us think about some of the tax benefits from turning on the EAF? Because I would presume there's a lot of capital cost allowances and the like? So should cash taxes impact be quite low next year or lower?

[Rajat Marwah, executive]

You're absolutely right. As we commission and we capitalize, we have accelerated depreciation in Canada, where we can take most of it in 2 years. So our cash taxes definitely will be lower, and we'll get that advantage over 2 years or 3 years depending upon how the economy is performing, but our taxes will be lower.

[Ian Gillies, analyst]

Okay. And then last one for me as it pertains to EAF and power. Is there any sort of detailed update you can provide on the status of where you're at with the public utility commission and getting final approval to build that power line? I thought it was something that was supposed to come through this summer into the fall.

[Michael Garcia, executive]

Yes. So we expect the final determination, official approval from the Ontario Energy Board of PUCs leave to construct application either at the end of August or early September. All the -- we've been in very close contact with PUC as they prepare the application with OEB as they're examining it. We've been tracking. There haven't been any issue -- there haven't been any extra questions from OEB or interveners that have stepped forward in opposition to the project.

So -- but it does take time for the OEB to do a complete examination of the application and issue their positive finding. Once that's in place, that kind of starts the activity going for the actual construction, which we believe will be completed in 2027. At that time, when you think about what that completion of the power line here in the community of Sault Ste. Marie will do is we have enough power to make 2.4 million tonnes of EAF steel cold charging, 100% without augmenting any hot iron from our blast furnaces.

With the completion of that local line in 2027, that will give us enough power to produce 3 million tonnes of EAF steel. That would be the combination of the increased grid power available to us and continuing to run our Lake Superior power plant. And then the final stage would be the completion of the grid, the transmission lines in the Ontario province that would allow us, again, to make 3 million tonnes, but without running our captive power plant, which would significantly lower our cost and our carbon emissions profile.

So really, we'll be at full production based on the amount of steel we can make in our EAF and our downstream once that local power line is complete in 2027. And then after that, the only power changes will just serve to lower our cost and our carbon emissions profile.

[Ian Gillies, analyst]

Understood. And maybe just a follow-on, if I may. So does that mean at some point, perhaps it's a longer-dated item that LSP becomes a potential monetization opportunity to service some extra value?

[Michael Garcia, executive]

I think so. I think it will be -- it will depend on the overall state of the Ontario grid and how the system operator and the OEB view that power plant in terms of does it add grid stability, does it have value from a peaker perspective to ensure available power and to the extent that those discussions will be happening at that time, I think there will be value in maintaining that power plant and having it part of the overall generation footprint in the province to run it to generate 110 megawatts of power when it's needed by the system operator.

[Operator]

There are no further questions at this time. I would like to hand the call back over to Michael Moraca for any closing comments.

[Michael Moraca, executive]

Thank you. Thank you again for your participation in our first quarter fiscal 2025 earnings conference call and for your continued interest in Algoma Steel. We look forward to updating you on our results and progress when we report our fiscal second quarter results scheduled for November. Thank you very much. Have a good day.

[Operator]

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you for your participation.