Applied Blockchain Inc

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Earnings Call Analysis

Strong Revenue Growth and Expanding Capacity Amid Rising Demand

In its latest earnings call, Applied Digital reported a remarkable 67% increase in revenue, reaching $60.7 million, largely driven by cloud services. The company is finalizing a 100-megawatt lease with a hyperscaler, anticipating that total capacity could rise to 400 megawatts at its North Dakota campus. Adjusted EBITDA surged to $20 million, despite increased costs associated with asset depreciation. Additionally, the firm plans to deploy more GPU clusters in the second half of fiscal 2025 as they address rising demand among hyperscalers. With a strong cash position of $86.6 million, they aim to strategically fund high-return projects in high-performance computing.

Strong Revenue Growth Driven by Cloud Services

In the latest earnings call, Applied Digital reported a remarkable 67% increase in revenue, reaching $60.7 million, compared to the previous quarter. This growth can mainly be attributed to their cloud services business, which contributed $25.9 million, while their data center hosting segment generated $34.8 million. Increased demand for high-performance computing (HPC) services, particularly in AI applications, is fueling this impressive growth.

Significant Adjustments to Amortization and Expenses

The company is currently facing rising depreciation and amortization expenses, which surged to $34.4 million from just $8 million year-over-year. Additionally, they incurred $4.1 million in expenses for data center facilities that aren't yet operational, but plans to utilize these sites in the future are in place, aiming to alleviate these costs once they start generating revenue.

Improving Financials with a Stronger Balance Sheet

At the conclusion of the first fiscal quarter, Applied Digital's balance sheet showed $86.6 million in cash and cash equivalents against $143.6 million in debt. Notably, shareholders' equity nearly doubled to $241.8 million following a cash infusion from significant investors, indicating a robust financial health that might inspire investor confidence.

Expansion Progress and Future Capacity Plans

The company is progressing on its Ellendale HPC Campus with ongoing construction initially designed for 100 megawatts, but expansion plans target increasing capacity to 400 megawatts. They are optimistic about finalizing a lease with a U.S.-based hyperscaler, which includes options for additional capacity, indicating strong demand for their service.

Opportunities in the High-Demand HPC Market

Recent trends indicate a surge in demand for data center capacity for 2025 and 2026, creating a competitive landscape for Applied Digital's services. They are initiating lease discussions with additional hyperscalers and are optimistic about receiving letters of intent for future capacity. This aligns with the broader industry trend of seeking purpose-built HPC data centers.

Guidance for Future Growth and Cluster Deployments

Applied Digital anticipates deploying additional GPU clusters starting in the second half of fiscal year 2025. They expect continued expansion and innovation despite the competitive landscape, particularly as they adapt their financing structures and lease agreements to sharpen their market positioning.

Strategic Investments and Market Recognition

The company has benefited from significant strategic investments, which have bolstered their market presence and credibility. As they strive to position themselves as thought leaders in the HPC segment, these investments underscore the stakeholders' confidence in Applied Digital's growth strategy.

Future Plans for Sustainable Practices

Looking ahead, Applied Digital is exploring innovative solutions like heat recirculation to enhance sustainability at its data centers. By capturing waste heat for agricultural initiatives, they aim to create additional revenue streams while promoting environmental sustainability, reinforcing their commitment to responsible operations.

Conclusion: A Positive Outlook for Investors

Overall, Applied Digital appears well-positioned for continued growth in the HPC sector. With a strong financial foundation, strategic expansion plans, and a focus on sustainability, investors may find significant potential in the company's future performance. The upcoming deployment of additional clusters and a robust demand outlook indicate promising prospects in the rapidly evolving technology landscape.

Earnings Call Transcript 2025-Q1

[Operator]

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Applied Digital's Fiscal First Quarter 2025 Conference Call. My name is Julian, and I will be your operator for today.

Before this call, Applied Digital issued its financial results for the fiscal first quarter ended August 31, 2024, in a press release, a copy of which will be furnished in a report on a Form 8-K filed with the SEC and will be available in the Investor Relations section of the company's website.

Joining us on today's call are Applied Digital's Chairman and CEO, Wes Cummins; and CFO, David Rench. Following their remarks, we will open the call for questions. Before we begin, Matt Glover from Gateway Group will make a brief introductory statement. Mr. Glover, please proceed.

[Matt Glover]

[indiscernible] for 2025 conference call.

Before management begins formal remarks, we'd like to remind everyone that some statements we're making today may be considered forward-looking statements under securities laws and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. As a result, we caution you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements.

For more detailed risks, uncertainties and assumptions relating to our forward-looking statements, please see the disclosures in our earnings release and public filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We disclaim any obligation or undertaking to update forward-looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date the forward-looking statements are made, except as required by law.

We also discuss non-GAAP financial metrics and encourage you to read our disclosures, reconciliation tables and the applicable GAAP measures in our earnings release carefully as you consider these metrics. We refer you to our filings with the SEC for detailed disclosures and descriptions of our business as well as uncertainties and other variable circumstances, including, but not limited to, risks and uncertainties identified under the caption Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K and our quarterly report on Form 10-Q. You may get Applied Digital Securities and Exchange Commission filings for free by visiting the SEC website at www.sec.gov.

Lastly, I'd like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay via link in the Investor Relations section of Applied Digital's website. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Applied Digital's Chairman and CEO of Wes Cummins. Wes?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Thanks, Matt, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our fiscal first quarter 2025 conference call.

I want to start by expressing gratitude to our employees for their ongoing hard work and service in supporting our mission of providing purpose-built infrastructure to the rapidly growing, high-performance computing industry. Before turning the call over to our CFO, David Rench, for a detailed review of our financial results, I'd like to share some recent developments across our business.

After the close of the quarter, our balance sheet significantly improved due to the strategic investments from a group of institutional and accredited investors, NVIDIA and related companies. We sincerely appreciate the vote of confidence from our investors and look forward to deploying this capital in high-return projects in the digital infrastructure sector.

Next, I'll give an update on our progress of our Ellendale HPC Campus. Building continues on schedule. We are finalizing the lease with a U.S.-based hyperscaler. Additionally, we're progressing with our site level debt financing, which is expected to close shortly after the lease is executed. We see this initial 100-megawatt building is just the beginning for Applied Digital as we have currently designed 2 additional buildings at this location and we'll expand our capacity to 400 megawatts. Simultaneously, we are exploring opportunities to accelerate the monetization of our over 1.4 gigawatt pipeline.

Now I'll provide an update on each of our business units, starting with our data center hosting business. We currently have 286 megawatts of data center hosting capacity for our cryptocurrency clients across 2 fully contracted locations in North Dakota, which are operating at full capacity.

Next, let's discuss our cloud services business, which provides high-performance computing power for AI applications. This segment continues to experience growth as we fulfill our existing contracts and explore new opportunities in our pipeline.

As of the end of the first quarter, we had 6 clusters online. We have made significant progress on amending the lease financing for our GPUs, which we expect to complete in the current quarter. The amendment as contemplated will allow us to amortize the value of the GPUs over the expected useful life versus the life of the lease, which will significantly improve our reported results and more accurately reflect the economics of this business.

Our recent investment round has significantly increased visibility in the market for our cloud business, and we expect to deploy additional clusters starting in the second half of our fiscal year 2025, which begins December 1. In summary, we are encouraged by the positive trends across our business and remain confident in our growth trajectory.

With that, I'll now turn the call over to our CFO, David Rench, to walk you through our financials and provide an update on guidance. David?

[David Rench, executive]

Thanks, Wes. Let me begin by highlighting our revenue growth, which increased by 67% to $60.7 million this quarter. This growth was primarily driven by contributions from cloud services contracts, specifically our data center hosting segment generated $34.8 million in revenue, while our cloud services segment contributed $25.9 million. While we did see an increase in cost, this was largely due to higher depreciation and amortization expenses. For the quarter, depreciation and amortization totaled $34.4 million, up from $8 million in the same period last year.

It's also important to note that we're currently incurring significant expenses related to data center leases for our cloud business as we have not yet deployed GPU clusters in those locations. As a result, the company incurred $4.1 million in expenses this quarter for facilities that are not yet generating revenue. Our plan is to utilize these data centers in the future, which will help offset these costs.

Our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter increased significantly to $20 million. Our adjusted net loss for the quarter was $21.6 million or $15 per basic and diluted share based on a weighted average share count of 149 million shares.

Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the fiscal first quarter with $86.6 million in cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash alongside $143.6 million in debt. Lastly, shareholders' equity was $241.8 million, which has nearly doubled over the past 3 months, driven by a recent cash infusion from large investors. Now I'll turn the call over to Wes for closing remarks.

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Thank you, David. As many of you know, we were among the first in the industry to recognize substantial power demands necessary to support the compute requirements for running advanced AI workloads at scale in large-scale, high-density data centers. In response, we began construction late last year on a state-of-the-art 369,000 square foot facility, specifically designed for HPC applications.

We believe our proprietary data center design and architecture redefines what's possible for advanced HPC by supporting advanced cooling, extreme power density, security, interconnectivity, compliance and control requirements in a purpose-built facility. This significant early investment in the industry positioned us to now be in advanced contract and site level financing discussions regarding a lease for our North Dakota campus with a U.S.-based hyperscaler.

In addition, we believe we are witnessing rising demand for our proprietary and purpose-built HPC data centers among top-tier industry players. We believe this trend together with higher lease rates and attractive site-level debt financing from our -- for our facilities positions us to be an early thought leader in this high-growth market segment. Recent announcements from leading hyperscalers underscores the need for thousands of these facilities and reaffirms the strategic direction we are pursuing.

In the past 5 weeks, we have seen a substantial increase in interest and demand from other top-tier hyperscalers for 2025 and 2026 capacity, which is an extremely short supply. The fact that we are building and can deliver significant capacity for 2025 and have assembled a highly experienced team is allowing us to break into this high-growth market segment as a full stack developer for hyperscalers.

We believe this will allow us to monetize our other campuses that will have power available in 2026. Furthermore, we believe the strategic investments from prominent investors strongly affirms that we're on the right path. We believe this growing recognition not only strengthens our market position but also highlights the immense potential for our strategic plan.

Our vision is to become a platform capable of building and operating multiple HPC data centers at scale. We're excited about the potential catalysts ahead, and we'll continue to allocate our capital strategically to achieve optimal risk-adjusted returns and maximize shareholder value.

As we continue to navigate our expansion and growth, we are making some moves among our executive team that are intended to better position us. David Rench will assume the role of Chief Administrative Officer; and Saidal Mohmand will assume the role of Chief Financial Officer, with these changes to be effective Monday, October 14.

At this time, we welcome your questions. Operator?

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Lucas Pipes, B. Riley Securities.

[Lucas Pipes, analyst]

Wes and team, congratulations on the recent investment round and the progress. Wes, my first question is about the lease negotiation. And it was my prior understanding that you had extended the exclusivity period under the LOI. And I wondered, has that exclusivity period expired? Or has it been renewed? Or are we still operating under that exclusivity?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

So the exclusivity period has officially expired. We chose not to renew exclusivity. We're just pursuing the finalization of the actual lease document. Then I think neither parties saw any reason to extend the exclusivity just to complete the document.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Darren Aftahi, ROTH Capital Partners, LLC.

[Darren Aftahi, analyst]

Congrats to Saidal and David on their appointments. Could you clarify something first in the PR. It talks about the finalization of the lease with the hyperscaler for 100 megawatts. So I just want to be clear, is the lease just for 100 megawatts? Or do they -- is that hyperscaler have options on additional capacity in the campus?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes. Darren, thanks. So what you should expect, and I think we've always talked about this, is the initial lease will be 100 and then the other 300 will be in a different form. But the expectation is that the lease will include reservation on the other 300 megawatts. I think we talked in the script, we're already designing those facilities or largely designed those facilities. We've started some earthwork on those, some early work to get moving. I feel like we've ran through this several times about the winters in North Dakota. So we've already started making progress on those, but the expectation is that, that single tenant will take the entire campus, but it will come in 2 leases.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Rob Brown of Lake Street Capital Markets.

[Robert Brown, analyst]

Maybe moving to the GPU business, you talked about additional clusters, and I guess you're running at pretty strong demand there, full capacity. What's your thoughts on additional clusters? And how do you see the timing on that?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

So Rob, as we talked about in the script, we expect to start deploying additional clusters. We have capacity that we're holding data center capacity at very attractive prices. I would add for the deployment of those additional clusters, we see the demand in the market. The thing that's going on in the market right now is do customers want to deploy hopper? Do you want to wait and move to Blackwell when you're really in the later part of the first half of next calendar year.

So we're having those discussions, and that's really what we're looking at. But we expect in the second half of our fiscal year, which as you know, starts December 1 to begin deploying additional clusters again. We've done a lot of work to make sure that we are doing the right type of financing. So again, the P&L that I talked about with the rework of the leases that we have that we recognize the depreciation appropriately that the payment schedule pushes out to 3 years versus 2 years so that it matches better the business model.

So we've done a lot of work over the past 9 months to make sure that we have the appropriate financing to push that forward. We have a lot of interest. We've got a really good boost from the investment back in September, and a lot more visibility on us. So you should expect that we start deploying additional clusters under a different financing structure in the second half.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Mike Grondahl, Northernland Securities (sic) [ Northland Securities ].

[Mike Grondahl, analyst]

Wes, just talking about the demand environment and after the 400 megawatts are leased up. Have you already started talking to potential customer #2 or #3? And any ideas on where that data center might be located?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes. So thanks for the question. So I alluded to a little bit in my prepared remarks, since our last call, so in late August last week of August, through the month of September, we saw a significant increase in activity. We're one data point, so I don't want to make a market call on that. But we saw a significant amount of inbound interest from 3 additional hyperscalers, have talked about the hyperscalers we typically target in the past, but 3 of those additional to the one we're working with in North Dakota are pushing aggressively for 2025 and 2026 capacity.

We're marketing the sites that we have to those customers. From our perspective, we've seen a significant step up in the demand for especially '25 and '26 capacity. '25 is basically done at this point. There's no additional '25 capacity out there that we'll have the 100 megawatts in Ellendale for '25 that a lot of people have started moving to the first half and even the second half of '26.

But we're seeing a significant amount of demand and working to get into another LOI at a different location, likely to be in the Dakotas. I wouldn't say North Dakota, but likely to be in the Dakotas for us for that second site. But we are seeing a significant amount of demand for what we have.

[Mike Grondahl, analyst]

And would you think you have an LOI in calendar '24 or early '25? Any rough guess as to when that LOI is possible?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes. I think just from the activity that we're seeing, we could see something by the end of calendar '24 for an additional site. This is such a dynamic market for us, Mike, is we're seeing a lot of things happen. We've had -- for this quarter, at least, we've had a lot of good things happen for us, the quarter that we're currently in, the investment. We've had some really big progress on supply chain. There are some things going on in the industry where we're seeing projects get pushed because power time lines are getting pushed. We've seen, just as an example, a little over 400 megawatts of backup gen hit the market for projects that had their power time lines pushed several years, if not longer.

And so they're being resold into the market. So we've taken advantage of that recently. So there's a lot of things at play here in the industry, and it's very dynamic, and we're trying to be as nimble as we can to take advantage of those things because it will help us from a supply chain perspective, accelerate both the Building 2 and 3 in Ellendale, but also additional sites. So just a lot of things happening.

[Operator]

I can hear you, George. So it must be you.

[George Sutton, analyst]

Okay. Sorry. George Sutton. So I'm wondering if you could give us a little more specificity on the finalization of the lease. What remains? My assumption has been that you have been trying to determine a delivery date based in part on the connections into the facility and in part based on the backup. So is that still where we stand on the lease?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

That's not really the issue up on the lease. But let me clarify that, George. I think there was some confusion around that on the last call. So I was talking about when lease revenue actually starts. And I said that it's really going to be in some ways up to the tenant. And so just to clarify what that is. So the facility will be ready earlier in the first half of '25 single feed. And then in the middle of '25 dual feed and then in the second half of '25 dual feed with backup gen. And so technically, the client could take power if they're willing to go single feed with just UPS redundancy, then what do they want to wait for dual feed. And so I think from a safe perspective, looking at the second half of full backup gen dual feed so the full redundancy on site. So I think there was a little confusion just trying to clear that up.

There's very little left on the lease, George. It's really just -- I try to handicap this, and I've been wrong on handicapping it several times. We feel really confident that this lease will get finalized. And in reality, this could happen in a matter of days. It could be 6 weeks. There's some time in that window, maybe on the outside chance of 8 weeks. But somewhere in that window, and there's not really anything specifically holding the lease up. It's just the process.

We don't control the process. We push on it as hard as we can, but we're really confident in the lease getting done. And then we've done a lot of work around the site-level financing. We have the bank group lined up there. They're ready to fund as early as the end of this month whenever the lease gets signed.

So we have all of the pieces lined up to go, and this will get finalized and we'll announce when it's finalized and then work through the funding at that point, which will be shortly thereafter. But I wish, George, I could give you very specific things, but we just don't control the process. And the color, I would add here, is if we're a first-time supplier, this is a really large contract for us. But I think even for the customer that we're working with here from just the size and the length of the contract from third parties, I have heard that typically as a first-time supplier to this customer, it can take 12 to 18 months to get through. So we're at about the 6 months. So it's moved really fast, and we feel like we're at the very end of this.

So I'm just trying to give as much color as I can. But obviously, we've missed a few deadlines on our expectation here. The work that we're doing with them just keeps moving forward every day and pretty significantly every week. And so from every piece of information that we have, we feel really confident that this will get signed. It's just hard to handicap when that actually happens.

[George Sutton, analyst]

I'm going to assume not as soon as the next hurricane but hopefully before the one after that. So if we look at Building 2, you mentioned that you're starting to move dirt. I know you don't want to do this on your balance sheet. Can you give us a sense of how you're beginning to structure buildings 2 and 3 kind of where all that sits?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes. So dirt work relative to -- or the earthwork relative to the cost relative to the total cost of the building is really miniscule. So it's one that's kind of easy to go ahead with. We've been working through the design. There will be a few design modifications, if you're not improving, you should be improving every time. So we should expect some modifications, plus it's going to be -- it's expected right now to be 150-megawatt IT load in that building versus 100. So there's some changes.

But we're pushing to have that building ready in the second half of calendar 2026 and then the third building in the second half of calendar '27. And so we've done a significant amount of work already, not expensive dollar-wise work, but a significant amount of work to make sure that we can meet those time lines.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from John Todaro, Needham & Company.

[John Todaro, analyst]

Wes and team, I guess sort of 2 here, both related to the lease. You had mentioned that there's going to be 2 leases, 100 megawatts and then the additional 300. Do we think economics is going to be kind of the same for each? Or should we think kind of better economics maybe for the first 100 and then they negotiate a little bit harder on the other 300? Any kind of color there? And then just second point, at least as it relates to the first lease, they're kind of all the key items we should think about negotiated and now it really is almost just kind of a clerical part that could take up to 6 to 8 weeks here?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes. So thanks, John. And again, I don't want to say it could take up to -- it's a little -- again, a little bit of a guessing game. But yes, you're characterizing the second part of that correctly. On the first part, 2 leases, there are 2 different structures, but economically, they'll look really similar, if that makes sense.

[John Todaro, analyst]

Okay. So kind of the previous economics on revenue and EBITDA, we should still be kind of thinking about as we model it. Okay.

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes. One of the leases is expected to be kind of a colo sale lease where you lease on $1 per kilowatt per month. And the remainder, a yield on cost model that's more traditional for hyperscalers. But economically, they'll look very similar.

[John Todaro, analyst]

Got it. Understood. And just a second point, just to clarify, you would kind of characterize it as kind of mostly in a clerical phase at this point, I guess.

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Kevin Dede of H.C. Wainwright.

[Michael Donovan, analyst]

Wes and David, this is Michael Donovan calling in on behalf of Kevin. For Cloud Services, can you discuss what you're seeing with customer turnover? And how has pricing changed with demand?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

So pricing, surprisingly has been somewhat flat lined for almost the last year on the -- let's just call it on hopper from an hour for bare metal. So we stick to bare metal on GPU price per hour has been pretty flat lined. I mean we're still quoting out in the 20 -- sorry, 2 20-ish range on average per hour. And then on customer turnover, we have -- we keep expanding with our largest customer. We have a customer that has got more of a question mark around it in character with the changes that have happened there and the payment. I don't know the details of the payment.

I think everyone here knows the same detail as I do, which is what I read the Wall Street Journal of roughly $2.7 billion, I believe, was the number. So there's some question marks around that, and there's a chance we swap customers out there, but we have demand for those clusters to continue to grow. And I'll go back to what I've been talking about the last couple of calls, which is we're very focused on the enterprise market which has been a developing market, and we're seeing more and more demand in the enterprise market.

What I would say about the AI lab and the kind of the AI start-up market is that I feel like it's gotten much more prudent in that market. You're seeing a lot better, a lot more thought going into business models instead of if you went back 15 or 18 months, you were looking at how many GPUs can I get online and how quickly.

So I think people are looking more around business models and actually feel a little more comfortable around those companies. And I think we have in our largest customer and together AI, just a company that thinks about that a lot and has some really great customers on their end and a wide range of customers as well.

But that market is still seeing significant demand growth. We're seeing new entrants from a customer set perspective in that market, both on the enterprise and back to the AI labs and the AI start-ups. But pricing has been largely stable there.

[Michael Donovan, analyst]

Okay. I appreciate that, Wes. Then for more conceptual question. Are you guys trying to engineer any solutions for heat recirculation? And if so, are you thinking about obtaining customers to offset tower cost there?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes, you mean on heat capture for the data centers.

[Michael Donovan, analyst]

Exactly.

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Yes. So we've been spending a fair amount of time on methods for that. So with our Bitcoin data centers, it's much harder. So you're doing air cool. It's much harder to capture the ambient heat you create for any use case. But with the HPC facility, the Ellendale 2 facility as we move to liquid cool, it creates a much easier opportunity to capture that waste heat that's created in the facility and look for opportunities that we could co-locate in the areas that we're in, we really need to look towards agricultural opportunities to offload that heat, and we're examining that and we expect to start deploying some of that in the calendar 2025 as that facility comes online. But you're really thinking about things like greenhouses or aquafarming or mushrooms or things that are agriculturally based in the areas. We are in North Dakota for that to try to make use of that waste heat from the facility.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Jon Gruber from Gruber & McBaine.

[Jon deRoy Gruber, analyst]

Wes, my question is on the last call, we were at 90%, are we at in 91%? Or are we at 99.5% now? Where do we stand sort of you write -- you gave us a rating last call...

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

It's a great question, Jon. And I think if I remember correctly on the last call, 90% of the work complete. And I think I had trouble handicapping what the time line is on the last 10. But I would say that we're 98.5% or 99% there, we're -- it's mostly just Jon asked you clerical at this point for us. So like I said, I wish we had more control of the process, but we push where we can. But I think we're at the very end of this process. The team has done a great job getting there.

[Operator]

Our next question comes from Darren Aftahi, ROTH Capital Partners, LLC.

[Darren Aftahi, analyst]

Just a follow-up, Wes, on the comments you made about the 2 leases. I'm just kind of curious, when you talk on yield on cost on the second one, is there a target range that you guys are looking at in terms of that? And then I guess on the second lease, given the way you kind of -- what about kind of building before maybe getting a client booked? Are you looking to get some sort of prepayment piece to help fund buildings 2 and 3 going forward?

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

So Darren, on -- I'm not going to talk about the actual yields for lease rates for pricing there. I think it's premature to talk about that. But it still fits in the model that we've really always talked about from an economic perspective. As far as the expectation for buildings 2 and 3 or B and C as our vernacular is internally. The -- we'll do -- like I said, we're putting some money in very low dollars, not big CapEx spend. The expectation is we'll have a lease signed and project financing in place to, build there.

And so we won't go through anything close to what we did on the first one where I've repeated, I think, again and again, that I think the way for us to break into this market is a full stack developer was speed to market, and I think that's working out well for us. But on Building 2 and 3, you expect that it's signed before we're doing anything CapEx dollar spend. But I will say from a market perspective, just going back to the market and what we've seen in the last -- really in the month of September, we are seeing those potential offers out there from hyperscalers of offering capital to build and upfront payments.

We have down that -- we'll be down that for some of our other campuses. But we are seeing some of that in the market just as it speaks to the demand for '25 and '26 and the scarcity of what's out there.

[Operator]

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back to Chairman and CEO of, Wes Cummins, for closing remarks.

[Wesley Cummins, executive]

Thanks, everyone, for joining us on the call. I look forward to speaking with you in January.

[Operator]

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.