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Q4-2023 Analysis
Huazhu Group Ltd

H World Group's Strategic Leap Forward

In 2023, H World Group's resilience and growth were impressive. Despite closing 789 hotels, the network expanded by opening 1,641 new ones, emphasizing quality over quantity. Revenue per available room (RevPAR) surpassed 2019 levels, illustrating recovery strength. The 'Iron Triangle' strategy successfully drove their economy and mid-scale segments, and the company refreshed its brand with significant product upgrades. Internationally, they aimed to adopt an asset-light model, enhance direct sales, and explore APAC and Middle East markets. Financially, revenues soared by 58%, and the firm achieved an operating income of 4.7 billion RMB, with both Legacy-Huazhu and DH segments reporting growth and improved adjusted EBITDA figures. Looking ahead to 2024, H World targets 8-12% revenue growth and plans to open around 1,800 hotels while continuing to elevate service and digital capabilities.

Travel Industry Recovery and H World’s Strategic Achievements

As the domestic travel industry bounced back vigorously in 2023, H World capitalized on this momentum, recording a full recovery of its Revenue per Available Room (RevPAR) to 122% of pre-pandemic 2019 levels. The company attributes this success in part to a combination of strong leisure demand and the gradual resurgence of business travel. Moving into 2024, H World has noticed stable performance in its RevPAR, signaling a positive continuation of this recovery trend.

Hotel Network Expansion and Product Portfolio Reinforcement

In 2023, H World showcased its commitment to growth and quality by opening a record 1,641 hotels and strategically closing 789 to refresh its portfolio. This approach underlines its devotion to sustainable, high-quality growth and led to the pipeline of hotels reaching a new high of 3,061 by year's end. The highlight was on the limited-service segment, which is central to the company's expansion strategy. Significant updates were made to H World's economic and middle-scale products - including its Iron Triangle brands HanTing, JI Hotel, and Orange. In particular, the Orange LoHaS model was exceptionally received, making up 58% of the brand's pipeline. H World also continues to push into lower-tier cities in China, boasting a 40% operational presence and 55% pipeline representation in these areas by the end of 2023.

Regional Growth and Increased Signings

Regional progress has been noteworthy, with new signings in South, West, and Central China growing by over 100%, 80%, and 40% year-over-year, respectively. Compared to pre-COVID levels of 2019, these increases are even more pronounced, signaling strong market interest and regional business expansion. The upper-mid hotel segment hit the company's target, reaching 1,031 hotels in 2023.

Strong Performance Indicators and Operational Efficiency

H World made significant strides in operational effectiveness, marking a 62.6% direct booking rate through its Central Reservation Systems, a 9-percentage point increase from the previous year. It indicates an enhanced reliance on direct channels. The push for digitalized organizational capability will further support product and service improvements, aiming at ensuring sustainable growth. As part of this plan, H World is exploring growth opportunities in the APAC and Middle East regions, transforming its business model to be more asset-light and bolstering its H Reward Global Loyalty Program.

Financial Highlights and Forward Outlook

H World's financial performance in 2023 was robust, with an overall room count increase of 13% and a hotel turnover jump of 62%. The Legacy-Huazhu segment in particular saw its turnover grow 66% year-over-year. Fourth quarter revenue outpaced guidance, rising by 51%, while annual revenue increased by 58%. Looking ahead to 2024, H World anticipates revenue growth of 11-15% excluding the DH brand and aims to maintain its high-quality network expansion with a goal of opening approximately 1,800 hotels while closing about 650. This reflects optimism in both the company's growth potential and its commitment to refining its hotel offerings.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q4

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Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to H World Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to hand you over to H World Senior IR Director, Mr. Jason Chen. Please go ahead.

J
Jason Chen
executive

Thank you. Good morning, and good evening, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. Welcome to H World Group 2023 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Earnings Conference Call.

Joining us today is our Chairman, Mr. Ji Qi, our CEO; Mr. Jin Hui; and our CFO, Mr. Zou Jun. Following their prepared remarks, management will be available to answer your questions.

Before we continue, please note that the discussion today will include forward-looking statements made under the safe harbor provision of the United States Private Security Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties. As such, our results may be materially different from the views expressed today.

A number of potential risks and uncertainties are outlined in our public filings with the SEC. H World Group does not undertake any obligations to update any forward-looking statements, except as required and applicable laws. On the call today, we will also mention adjusted financial measures during the discussion of our performance.

Reconciliations of those measures to comparable GAAP information can be found in our earnings release that was distributed yesterday. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. The webcast of this conference call as well as supplementary slide presentation is available at ir.hworld.com.

With that, now I will hand over the call to our CEO, Mr. Jin Hui, to discuss our business performance in 2023. Mr. Jin, please.

H
Hui Jin
executive

In 2023, the domestic traveling industry experienced strong momentum of recovery along with the robust rebound of the industry. H World continued implementing our sustainable, high-quality growth strategy and achieved great results. First of all, let's take a look at our achievements in 2023.

Please turn to Page 3. Thanks to the strong leisure demand and the gradual recovery of business demand post-pandemic. In 2023, our China business achieved a robust recovery with RevPAR recovered to 122% of the 2019 level for the whole year. Entering into 2024, we still see our RevPAR performing steadily so far.

Our hotel network continued to expand. Please turn to Page 4. Excluding the economic softer brand, we opened a total of 1,641 hotels in 2023, reached a record high in terms of annual opening number.

At the same time, we closed 789 hotels in 2023. However, excluding the low-quality economic softer brand and HanTing 1.0 version, the closure were only 273 hotels, a slight increase from 237 in 2022.

The high closure number in 2023 demonstrated our determination to remove or upgrade low-quality hotels in accelerative manner, which is in line with our sustainable quality growth strategy. In terms of our pipeline by the end of 2023, our hotels in pipeline reached 3,061, another record high.

The limited-service segment remains our key strategic focus. Our economic and middle-scale products, which target the mass market are the key drivers of our network expansions, breaking down our hotels in operation, hotels in pipeline and hotel opening in 2023. The proportion of economic and middle-scale hotel were 92%, 85% and 90%, respectively.

H World has set a specific brand strategy named Iron Triangle to develop the economic and the middle-scale segments. The Iron Triangle strategy consists of our 3 key brands, namely HanTing, JI Hotel, and Orange.

In 2023, we have upgraded products for all these 3 brands. Please turn to Page 6. Firstly, our HanTing products were being constantly upgraded.

The proportion of HanTing 1.0 version were significantly declined from 28.5% as of 2020 to only 4.4% as of 2023. While the proportion of HanTing 2.7 and above version steadily increased from only 34.4% as of 2020 to 71.2% as of 2023.

As the first flagship brand with the longest history within the group, HanTing has maintained its market competitiveness and attractiveness to customers and franchisees through continuous product innovation and upgrades.

Please turn to Page 7. We launched the newest version 5.0 for JI Hotel at the end of last year. The new version further elaborates lifestyle of oriental acetic and shows confidence in distinctive Chinese style service.

Starting from the stage of design, JI Hotel 5.0 version implements the concept of sustainable development such as adopting prefabricated design, intelligent lighting system, and environmentally friendly construction systems.

These implementations could largely help reducing environmental pollution and energy consumption. Additionally, we also explored some new business models in the public area of lobby area of JI Hotel 5.0 version.

We introduced an innovative Tea Space or Tea House in JI Hotel's public area and also further strengthening the curtain products, which is the scenario-based retail business.

Lastly, our Orange brand. We launched LoHaS version in 2023. Please turn to Page 8. After only 1 year post its official launch, Orange LoHaS version has already gained tremendous popularity in the market. As of 2023, the LoHaS products accounted for 58% of the total Pipeline of Orange brand. H World continued to expand geographic coverage of our hotel network.

Please turn to Page 9. We kept on penetrating in lower-tier cities in China. As of 2023, around 40% of hotels in operation were located in Tier 3 and 4 and below cities, representing a 2-percentage point increase compared to 2022. At the same time, 55% of hotels in Pipeline were located in lower-tier cities. Also, the percentage number were lower compared to 2022. Its absolute number was higher.

As of 2023, the number of city coverage was 1,257, added 131 new cities penetration compared to 2022. In addition, our capabilities of localized development and operation in the previously less penetrated or weak areas in China has been improving significantly, and we achieved initial results post our organizational restructuring by establishing regional headquarters.

Please turn to Page 10. In the South, West, and the Central China, the total new signings in 2023 increased more than 100%, 80%, and 40% year-over-year, respectively, and increased more than 200%, 130%, and 110% compared to the pre-COVID year of 2019, respectively.

Please turn to Page 11. Our upper mid-scale segment development is continuously progressing. As of the fourth quarter of 2023, there were 645 upper-midscale hotels in operation, representing a 23% year-over-year increase and a 7% quarter-over-quarter increase. And there were 386 of upper-midscale hotels in Pipeline, representing a 34% year-over-year increase and an 8% on increase on a sequential basis.

Combining the hotels in operations and hotels in Pipelines together, the total number of our upper-mid hotels reached 1,031 in 2023.

We are very glad that we had achieved our target, which was set in the second quarter of 2021. However, it is still far from enough. We will continue to strengthen our footprint in the upper-midscale segment, mainly through our core brands and strive to become a leading brand in the market in the foreseeable future.

Please turn to Page 12. Being one of our core brands in the upper-midscale segment, Intercity brand launched its new products in 2022. And the number of its Pipeline hotels has quickly increased to 53 at the year-end, demonstrating the high market recognition and acceptance of the brand and the products.

Turning to Page 13. At the same time, the Crystal Orange gained a good momentum of new signings as well. By the end of 2023, the number of hotels in Pipeline reached 119, which doubled from the beginning of 2023. Lastly, let's review our performance in regards to the membership and the Central Reservation System. Please turn to Page 14.

The total number of members continued to increase to 228 million in 2023 and has ranked #1 worldwide. Direct bookings through our Central Reservation Systems was 62.6% in 2023, representing a 9-percentage points increase on a year-over-year basis. All in all, we continue to reinforce our membership program and a Central Reservation System.

After discussing our achievements in 2023, let's now go through our key strategic forecast in 2024. Please turn to Page 15. Service Excellence-Centric Sustainable Growth, quality growth will be the strategic focus of Legacy-Huazhu in 2024. This strategic focus is divided into 3 major areas. Firstly, High-Quality Hotel Network Expansion.

In the limited-service segment, we will continuously expand our footprint nationwide by executing our Iron Triangle strategy, which focus on less penetrated areas and lower-tier cities. In the upper middle segment or selected service segment, we will consistently implement our multi-brand strategy to further strengthen our presence.

Secondly, customer-centric product upgrades and service excellence. In terms of product quality, we will continue to upgrade old hotels and introduce new products for each brand to meet our customers' diversified needs. In terms of service quality, 2024 marks the beginning of an year of service excellence for H World.

It means that we are going to put more emphasis on service, which provided to both our customers and franchisees to continuously enhance their experiences and their satisfaction.

Lastly, the Digitalized-Based Organizational Capability Enhancement. Continued improvements on both products and service quality would be difficult in the access of a strong support from a strong organizational and digitalization capability.

We are going to further enhance our management capability and operational efficiency in the areas such as supply chain optimization, integrated marketing program, talent reserve, organizational capability, and so on through a comprehensive digitalization process.

By doing so, it could help us to establish a solid foundation to support our business development in a rapid and a sustainable manner. Please turn to Page 16. In terms of our overseas business, there are our 4 major strategic focus.

Firstly, transforming to Asset-light model; secondly, continuously focusing on cost reduction and profitability improvement; thirdly, further strengthening direct sales via H Reward Global Loyalty Program; and lastly, looking for the APAC and the Middle East growth opportunity.

All above our 2023 review and our 2024 strategic focus discussions. Now, I will hand over the call to our CFO, Mr. Zou Jun, to discuss our 2023 fourth quarter and full-year operational and financial reviews. Mr. Zou, please.

J
Jun Zou
executive

Thank you, Jin Hui. Good morning and good evening to everyone. Let's go through our operational and financial review for the fourth quarter and full year of 2023.

Please, now turn to Page 18. In 2023, we continue to expand our hotel network. Our overall number of rooms increased 13% year-over-year to over 912,000 rooms by the end of 2023 compared to over 809,000 rooms as of end of the last year.

Our hotel turnover for the full year of 2023 was RMB 80.4 billion, representing a 62% increase compared to 2022. Excluding DH, Legacy-Huazhu Hotel turnover grew 66% year-over-year to RMB 73.3 billion.

Now, let's turn to Page 19. Since China lifted a travel restriction in late 2022, we saw a strong rebound in leisure travel and a gradual recovery in business travel throughout 2023.

Blended RevPAR for Legacy-Huazhu reached RMB 242 representing a recovery of 122% compared to the 2019 level and a year-over-year increase of 54%. The robust RevPAR growth was primarily driven by ADR, which raised 27% to RMB 299 in 2023, which was mainly due to our product mix change as well as continued product upgrade over the last few years.

Occupancy rate also improved throughout the year to 81% for the full year of 2023. Now, Page 20. For DH business, full year 2023 blended RevPAR grew 14.5% year-over-year to EUR 71, which was driven by a 1% increase in ADR and a 7% increase in occupancy rate to 63% OTC.

Now, please turn to Page 21. In 4Q 2023, our total revenue for the group increased 51% year-over-year to RMB 5.6 billion, exceeding our previous guidance of 41% to 45% year-over-year growth.

For the full year of 2023, our group revenue increased 58% year-over-year to RMB 21.9 billion, of which Legacy-Huazhu achieved 64% year-over-year revenue growth to RMB 17.4 billion, and the DH grew 39% year-over-year to RMB 4.4 billion.

The revenue growth of Legacy-Huazhu was driven by the strong travel demand in China as well as our continued product upgrade and the market penetration throughout regional offices.

For DH, its revenue growth was attributable to the market recovery on network expansion as well as favorable exchange rates. Now, please turn to Page 22. Hotel operating costs were RMB 4 billion in the fourth quarter of 2023 and RMB 14.3 billion for the full year of 2023.

The year-over-year increase was primarily due to our business recovery and the Q-o-Q increase in the fourth quarter was mainly due to RMB 200 million impairment loss on the Legacy-Huazhu level as well as RMB 162 million impairment from Legacy-DH.

The increase of our hotel operating costs was slower than our revenue growth, reflecting operating leverage of the business. The pre-opening expenses reduced meaningfully as we continue to execute our asset-light strategy and become more selective on opening lease and owned hotels. SG&A expenses were RMB 970 million in the fourth quarter of 2023 and RMB 3.2 billion for the full year of 2023.

The year-over-year increase in SG&A were mainly due to increased personnel costs, OTA commissions, and promotional expenses, along with the business recovery. Overall, we achieved operating leverage and deliver income from operation of RMB 757 million in the fourth quarter of 2023 and RMB 4.7 billion for the full year of 2023 compared to an operating loss in the fourth quarter and the full year of 2022.

Turning to Page 22. Legacy-Huazhu reported adjusted EBITDA of RMB 1.3 billion in the fourth quarter 2023 and RMB 6.8 billion for the full year of 2023. Please take note that the reported adjusted EBITDA consistent of several one-off items, including around RMB 590 million gains from selling across shares and other investments and around RMB 213 million COVID-related tax subsidy and the rental reduction for the full year of '23 and also unrealized foreign exchange gain of RMB 71 during the year of 2023.

Now, for the full year of 2023, our DH business reported a positive adjusted EBITDA of RMB 87 million. Our group adjusted net income were RMB 657 million in the fourth quarter of 2023 and RMB 4.1 billion for the full year of 2023.

Compared to net loss in the fourth quarter and the full year of 2022, our operating cash flow improved significantly, reached RMB 2.4 billion in the fourth quarter of 2023 and RMB 7.7 billion for the full year.

Now, please turn to Page 24. As of December 2023, the Group had RMB 10.5 billion cash, cash equivalents, restricted cash, and time deposits on hand and was in a solid net cash position with RMB 5.2 billion net cash, including time deposits. We also had RMB 2.8 billion unutilized bank facilities end of last year. Now, let's turn to Page 25.

In November 2023, we declared approximate USD 300 million cash dividend, which includes USD 200 million regular dividend and a USD 100 million special dividend. We also repurchased about USD 122 million worth of shares from the market during the first quarter of 2023, fourth quarter. As we become more asset-light and cash risk we'll continue to reward our shareholders dividend [indiscernible].

Now, please turn to Page 26 on guidance. For the third quarter of 2024, we expect revenue to grow 12% to 16% compared to first quarter last year or 11% to 15%, excluding DH. For the full year of 2024, we expect revenue to grow 8% to 12% year-over-year or 8% to 12% excluding DH. We'll further accelerate our high-quality network expansion, setting our gross hotel opening target of around 1,800 hotels in 2024, and we expect to close about 650 hotels.

With that, we're ready to take your questions. Operator, please open the line for Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Dan Xu from Morgan Stanley.

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Xianda Xu
analyst

We would like to understand the recent franchise signing progress. Do we have a target for this year on signing in particularly on products and city distribution? Do you see any significant differences when compared with last year?

When it comes to hotel opening, congratulations again on the record-high opening last year. I remember CEO, Mr. Jin mentioned about one bottleneck of annual hotel opening is supply chain and also construction.

I saw you increase your gross opening target to 1,800 hotels this year, another record high. So, does it mean that we now have made progress in this bottleneck issue? Should we expect gross opening to gradually increase every year going forward if signing keeps up?

H
Hui Jin
executive

Yes, let me answer your first question. So, over the last several years, we did do some of the right things in terms of to improve our capability in terms of the organizational operation. But we also get benefits from 3 major areas.

One is the benefit from the continuous regeneration improvements in the market, especially going to be benefiting the top-tier companies like H World.

By giving these benefits as well as our continuous efforts on building our brand awareness, in terms of getting into the leading position in different segments like economic and the middle scale that we have several brands are at the leading position.

The second benefit is from the lower-tier cities' penetrations, we catched the opportunity several years back, and we started to build our organizational capability, our human resources to support the lower-tier cities penetration opportunities.

Thirdly, as we also catch the opportunity, for example, the consumption upgrade and also the leisure traveling demand increase which help us to develop the upper-mid segment.

Given our established capability, we are confident that we're going to be having another good new signings for this year as well as the new opening for the year, just like we just gave the guidance for the 1,800.

In terms of the supply chain, you are right, last year just because of ride post-pandemic, there was a capacity bottleneck as well as given the industry recovery was very robust. But however, we don't think the supply chain is going to be the problem of the bottleneck going forward. In fact, there's going to be a very good supportive factors for us for future sustainable, high-quality growth.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Simon Cheung from Goldman Sachs.

S
Simon Cheung
analyst

The CEO, Jin Hui, just earlier mentioned that the company has greatly benefited from 3 macro or structural trends in the hotel industry over the last several years. Just wondering whether he has observed any new structural trend or opportunities as well?

The second question related to the margin and the costs. Last year, they did quite well in terms of the EBITDA margins, particularly in the China business. I'm wondering the management whether they can share with us the cost as well as the margin guidance for 2025 this year?

H
Hui Jin
executive

Let me answer your first question. Apart from the 3 benefits that I just mentioned, going forward, we think the China laundry market definitely has the opportunity, especially on the service excellence front. No matter where there is an economic or middle scale, upper middle skill segment, we observed that the customers have been more looking for value for money, good products, good service products.

So, for us, we're definitely going to be around their demands, the customer-centric to further build up our capability from different and many aspects, including the operational capability, sales capability as well as the marketing capability to fulfill their demand.

And our management goal is to help the Chinese laundering company to be the world-class in the upcoming future and also including those mature markets, maybe, for example, some of the markets are getting very mature, but we think there's still a lot of opportunities to redo the market again through the product upgrades through providing good services to the customers.

So, all in all, we think going forward, the opportunity is definitely from the service excellence together with the sustainable growth.

J
Jun Zou
executive

Simon, I will address your second question regarding cost and profitability. Now, while we continue to strive for healthy growth and service excellence, we will also focus on improving our management systems, streamline operation, and meticulously measure ROI of every dollar that we spend.

So, our overall goal is still to strive for a operating leverage, and that's definitely our goal.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ronald Leung from Bank of America.

R
Ronald Leung
analyst

My first question is about the RevPAR growth outlook. What is management expectations for the RevPAR growth in 1Q 2024 and also full-year 2024?

My second question is about the enhancement of the service quality. Could management emphasize what could be the areas that the company didn't do well enough in terms of the service quality? And is it possible to provide any specific initiatives to enhance service quality into Q4 and beyond?

H
Hui Jin
executive

Let me answer your first question in terms of the RevPAR. So, again, last year, post-pandemic, for the entire year, we clearly see that the RevPAR recovery was mainly driven by a very strong leisure traveling demand. But, however, the business traveling demand was relatively slower compared to the leisure in terms of the recovery.

Therefore, given the high base of 2023 RevPAR, now 2024, we're going to be a little bit conservative. So, that's why for the full year, we expect that the RevPAR going to be flattish to low single-digit growth on a year-over-year basis.

For your second question in terms of the service quality, so definitely, the service excellence is not our short-term goal, but the long term.

So, for us, we put this into our strategy because we think it's going to help us to grow into the next stage. Clearly, we are seeing that not only that we are rapidly growing our networks, but also the customers are involving rapidly as well. We are now facing a lot of diversified group of new customers, and we are trying to use both products and services to further improve their experiences and satisfactions.

For example, just to give you an example for the new group of the customer, like there are a lot of marathon events host everywhere in China. So, how we can fulfill their demands, but their demand might not be the same as those general business travelers.

So, again, what I want to emphasize is the service excellence strategy is not the short-term goal for the company, but it's a long-term goal for us. It's not just slogan. It's actually our management goal to bring the company grow into the next stage.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Sijie Lin from CICC.

S
Sijie Lin
analyst

So, what's the RevPAR guidance for Q1, would you might sharing with us? And we got a higher growth opening and net opening this year which we think is a very good thing and achieve a real high-quality growth.

So, considering that we are opening hotels with higher RevPAR, meanwhile, closing hotels with bad performance. So, how much percentage of RevPAR growth will be contributed by this mix upgrade?

J
Jun Zou
executive

Thanks for your question, Sijie. In the first quarter, our RevPAR probably will grow around the low single digits. And, as you mentioned, we will maintain a healthy growth with service excellence. However, in the meantime, we also encourage you to look into drivers other than RevPAR.

RevPAR is definitely one of our drivers, but we're rapidly shifting from a heavy model asset light model. And more and more franchise and manachised hotels will be open throughout the year.

And, therefore, there will be different drivers that drive our growth in the future. And that's something we can discuss. And while we are opening more and more mid-upscale hotels, we are also thinking into low-tier cities. So, the impact of new hotels to our RevPAR will be blended.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Lydia Ling from Citi.

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Lydia Ling
analyst

My first question is, I want to follow up on the store opening, actually, the pace of the store opening rate this year. So, I want to check how about like the franchise confidence currently in the market given the macro conditions and also, is the company going to actually provide more support to the franchisee?

And my second question is on the overseas business, the DH business and so, it's already like to have like a positive EBITDA for last year. And so, how you actually further drive the profitability this year? Any target for this year?

H
Hui Jin
executive

Let me answer your first question in terms of the franchisee. So, definitely a healthier return or ROI for franchisees and very important thing that's what we are putting a lot of efforts on to helping them to get a good return to open every hotel that can help to make the money.

So, we definitely will again provide a good service, just like what we discussed before, we're also going to provide a good service to the franchisees and also some of the supportive policy to help them to continuously open good hotels. For some of the existing franchisees, we're definitely helping them to open every hotels and with a good return.

And from the new franchisees, especially for the new regions and the new segments, for example, the lower-tier cities and the upper-mid segment, we are dealing with a lot of new franchisees that was not existing before, for example, a lot of local property companies, governments as well as the SOEs.

So, all in all, that for the franchises, definitely what we are trying to do as well as providing their good services and supportive policies just to ensure that every hotel stay open, we are going to have a good return on ROI.

J
Jun Zou
executive

Hi, Lydia. I'm going to answer your second question about DH profitability and cost structure. Now, firstly, we're determined that DH will move steadily to asset-light business model, and we are making progress in that area.

And, secondly, DH is tried to best to achieve operational efficiency, and by creating a lean and lean organization.

And, certainly, we are actually meticulously measuring ROI on all major capital and operational spending in DH business level. And with all of that efforts, we are determined to help DH gradually improve profitability and gradually turn cash flow positive. Thank you, Lydia, for your question.

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. Thank you very much for all your questions. I'll now turn the conference back to the management team for any additional closing comments.

J
Jason Chen
executive

Thank you, everyone, for taking your time with us today, and we look forward to seeing you in upcoming quarter. Thank you, and bye-bye.

Operator

That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.