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Earnings Call Transcript
2020-Q2

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Grupo Carrefour Brasil's Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. This conference is being recorded and broadcast live over the Internet and can be accessed at www.grupocarrefourbrasil.com.br, where you can download the presentation. [Operator Instructions]

Before proceeding, let me mention that forward-looking statements are being made under the safe harbor of the Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1996. Actual performance could differ materially from that anticipated in any forward-looking comments because of macroeconomic conditions, market risks and other factors.

It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Mr. Noël Prioux, Chief Executive Officer, to start the conference call. Please, Mr. Prioux, you may proceed.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Hello. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on this call to present Grupo Carrefour Brasil's second quarter 2020 results. I'm joined on this call by Sébastien Durchon, our CFO, who will present in greater detail the highlights of the period; and the CEOs of our business units, who will be with us for the Q&A session. And Natália Lacava, our Head of Investor Relations, is also with us.

I am delighted to be able to report the results of a spectacular quarter. And I can say without a doubt that the numbers of the second quarter are not a newer consequence of the current situation we're experiencing right now. They are the fruits of work that started 3 years ago. COVID-19 only accelerated these transformations and the results that we delivered. The initiatives that we implemented in the first quarter to cope with the COVID-19 pandemic not only continued but were intensified, leading to strong engagement from our customers. In my 30 years of Carrefour's and having worked in many countries, I don't think that I have ever witnessed such impressive results and such above-market average growth in practically all of the segments with a high level of engagement.

On one hand, we have Atacadão growing strongly and delivering significant results even when faced with challenges and in the absence of our Dia A, Atacadão Day, which says that we truly have the best model when facing a crisis, one that is able to accelerate growth in whatever market conditions.

In Carrefour Retail, we accelerated 3 years in 1 single quarter. We grew twice as much as the market, reaching a record NPS and a 30% increase in share of wallet, and this is indeed spectacular. Our e-commerce is soaring. We already have an e-commerce with a GMV of almost BRL 1 billion, up 40 percentage points above-market growth and already achieving significant penetration. It is interesting to note the high level of penetration of perishables and also high repeat purchase rates and the acquisition of new customers. Digitalization is really happening, and in my view, it has come to stay. We are already the seventh-largest e-commerce in number of visits, a quantum leap compared to when we started the operation. We already sold 40% of electronics and home appliances and almost 8% of food online. We can say that we are a true digital player.

In Banco Carrefour, we already saw signs of a rebound in economic activity in June. And we also believe that exposure to food retail brings a good safety margin to our results, minimizing credit challenges. In addition, our bank has become a full-fledged bank in June, an important step for our long-term strategy. I believe that all that proves to what extent a connected omnichannel is able to create synergies and feed back our other business units, generating traffic and recurring purchases. This is exactly the concept of the ecosystem that we have been building over the past years, and now you're seeing the results of that work.

We raised the bar, and we are winning in this new game. I would like to take this moment an opportunity to thank all of our employees who have been the main drivers responsible for delivering such good results. We have a very united team and synergy of people leads to synergies in business, too, and this is our main achievement.

With that, I hand over to Sébastien Durchon, who will detail our numbers better.

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Sébastien Durchon
executive

Thank you, Noël, and good morning to everyone. It is indeed very gratifying to be able to report such excellent results, which prove our ability to leverage the Carrefour Brasil ecosystem to drive sustainable growth.

On Slide 3, I will briefly comment on the main numbers that we reported yesterday. Here, I want to highlight that our consolidated gross sales rose 15.4% to BRL 17.6 billion in the quarter with an impressive like-for-like growth of 14.9% ex petrol. This growth is the combination of an 8.6% like-for-like growth of Atacadão, which once again attests to the strength of its model; and of a 30.3% like-for-like growth of retail, which proved to be the best one-stop shop in the brick-and-mortar world and the most complete e-commerce with fabulous increase of online sales of food and a robust and consistent nonfood growth.

Our adjusted EBITDA exceeded BRL 1.4 billion, a very significant 27.5% increase year-over-year with a 9% margin. Despite additional COVID costs, I'm pleased to note that unlike other groups, COVID expenses are reported in our EBITDA. They were not reclassified. This strong EBITDA growth is a reflect of increased sales and dilution of fixed costs. What is interesting is that all of that was achieved without the need to take on additional debt. And these gains were reflected directly on our adjusted net income of BRL 713 million in the quarter, up a record of almost 79% (sic) [ 75% ] year-over-year.

In this quarter, our adjusted net income group share hit an impressive mark of 4.5% of net sales, up 1.6 percentage points over the same period of last year. With a net debt of only BRL 2.7 billion in the end of the second quarter, our balance sheet remains solid, even including the lease debt resulting from IFRS 16 compliance. Our net debt over EBITDA ratio remains very low at 0.52 excluding discounted receivables, and 0.92x including these receivables.

On Slide 4, I would like to focus a little on the highlights of Atacadão. As Noël mentioned, indeed, this new market environment proved once more that we have the best model in the cash-and-carry segment, able to resist all market conditions by combining price and attractiveness for both B2B and B2C. It is worth mentioning that sales remained strong in June and July on the back of an innovative initiative that we adopted to help merchants in this moment of economic reopening, which we call Merchant Week. I would like to point out that our competitors thought this initiative was so good that almost all of them copied it in July. With the gradual reopening of economic activity in several cities, B2C remains strong and sustained high growth was seen in June and July. With that, our gross sales were up 13.5%, with 8.6% like-for-like, the best index since our IPO. This number was achieved even in the absence of Atacadão's traditional anniversary celebration, the famous Dia A, expected to happen in April and which we had to cancel because of COVID-19 and potential crowds.

As you know, Atacadão has a highly efficient model, and all this growth was reflected directly on Atacadão's result. Operational improvements, in particular reducing shrinkage, contributed to gross margin increased by 0.5 percentage point to 15.7% and to strong cost dilution, which in this quarter represented only 7.6% of net sales, a 0.5 percentage point improvement. As a result, our adjusted EBITDA was up 28.3%, with an EBITDA margin exceeding 8%.

On Slide 5, we highlight our main achievements in retail, which [ remaining ]. The hypermarkets, a format in which we never stopped believing, have already been the big winners in this new context when people look for a one-stop shop. We took advantage of this moment to accelerate some transformations that were already in our radar. We put into practice a more simplified and optimized promotional strategy, which consisted basically in reducing the number of promotional products, however, with better and more long-lasting promotions.

This led to several gains. Firstly, it helps avoiding crowds at the stores. And secondly, we were able to maintain low prices for longer, creating better price perception, more engagement and more customers returning to shop some more. In addition, we were able to manage more efficiently the logistics in our distribution centers because there's more predictability and less volatility of sales as well as fewer price changes, which in turn leads to higher efficiency at the stores.

Therefore, the results were significant with a like-for-like growth of 30.3% ex petrol. We improved twice as much as the market, as shown on the graph on the right. This means our market share increased 2.4 percentage points in our share of wallet, 30%, focusing on more loyal and profitable customers. We froze the prices of some 200 private label products, so our private label posted significant progress, in particular, a 30% volume increase in fast-moving consumer goods. Customers were clearly happy, with NPS reaching a record mark.

On Slide 6, we see the financial reflects of all of these initiatives on our results, in particular on EBITDA. The biggest highlight on the slide is the exceptional contribution of retail and e-commerce in this quarter. Our gross margin expanded 122 basis points ex petrol and ex commercial centers as we had an improvement in shrinkage and other important gains, for instance, in logistics.

As for our SG&A, the dilution of our fixed structure combined with reduced marketing expenses led to an improvement of 369 basis points. It is worth highlighting that excluding the additional expenses with COVID-19, our SG&A would have dropped nominally at Carrefour, attesting to all the work that we have been doing to improve operating efficiency over the last few quarters.

Adjusted EBITDA, which had already been growing in the past quarters, was up by a strong 78% with an 8.1% margin. Excluding petrol and commercial centers or galleries, which activity is impacted by the current crisis, adjusted EBITDA would have increased even more significantly by 187.5% year-over-year, with margin reaching 9.3%, a record improvement of 5.1 percentage points.

Moving to Slide 7, we will talk about e-commerce. The biggest message here is to show how much we have accelerated the digital transformation and how fast this channel grew, boomed in the past few months. It was like executing almost 3 years of a business plan in 1 single quarter. Our e-commerce, our e-business grew 94% as a whole, reaching a GMV of almost BRL 1 billion in 1 quarter, with 40% of sales of electronics and home appliances and almost 8% of food sales already coming from the online channel in June.

It is interesting to note that these are national averages and the group has its strong presence in several states. If you were to look at cities like São Paulo and Curitiba, in food, I'd say, the rates are running at impressive 14% and 19% penetration rate. It is not by chance that we are now ranked seventh in number of visits to our website and have grown 40 percentage points above the market in June according to E-bit. This strong digital presence, greater than other players that have been longer in this market, brings a number of benefits, first to our e-commerce but then to all our business units. For us, the pandemic was a catalyst and a driver of all the initiatives launched, and we are convinced that this quarter's spectacular development will continue.

As time goes by, it becomes more and more clear to us that the customers will come from all channels. In the beginning, nonfood segment would bring customers to buy food online. Today, we start seeing also the opposite. And this is the beauty of the omnichannel model, i.e., when the formats feed back on one another and create more business for the group as a whole.

On Slide 8, we give you more on food GMV, which grew more than 370% in the quarter. It is interesting to note that 60% of purchases include perishable items and that repeat purchase rates have been increasing significantly, 12 percentage points among new customers and 11 percentage points for existing clients. In addition, 60% of online sales come from totally new customers and 70% of them are totally new to the -- to Carrefour, including to hypermarkets, which demonstrates that cannibalization is definitely not a problem.

We continue to focus on quality of service. And in Q2 2020, we already have 97% of customers receiving their orders on time, which increased the channel's NPS. The side stores and last mile delivery partners have been essential for the rapid progress of this channel. And we are quite comfortable that we can double sales with the current capacity of 12 side stores, ensuring an even greater leverage potential.

We will now turn to Banco Carrefour on Slide 9. Here too, we are reaching a model which is more and more digital as shown by the very significant growth of our digital channels. Access increased by 27%. Sale of cards was up 85% in the month of June, and the number of agreements digitally signed soared 273%. In June, our bank became a full-fledged bank, and this is a very important step to enable our long-term strategy because it brings efficiency gains as we no longer need a third party to issue payment slips or for bank settlement, for example. In addition, we can offer a great diversity -- or a greater diversity of products.

The bank's quarter was impacted by the pandemic, which affected billings and results. But still, our on-us billings grew 8% in the quarter, attesting to the value of being a bank controlled by a food retailer and therefore a much more protected bank. In June, we started to see signs of recovery, and total monthly billings recorded a 12% growth. As can be expected, in Q2, we increased provisions with an impact on the bank's EBITDA, which ended the quarter at BRL 184 million, still a very high level of result.

We continued to help our clients and partners in this period of crisis, assisting them to publicize their business on a platform that counts on more than 450 registered partners and that has already impacted more than 200,000 Atacadão cardholders. I would like to stress that the bank will maintain all the investments we had planned before the crisis. And we remain confident in our trajectory of growth and in the transformation of our bank into a profitable fintech.

Lastly, I would like to highlight the progress that we have made -- we are on Slide 10 now, progress that we have made on 2 fronts, which are extremely relevant for the group: people and sustainability. Over the past few years, we have invested greatly in transformational actions not only for our business units but mainly in the way people act. Through our continued improvement center, we implemented agile models using squads, and that led to many improvements on several fronts. Here, I would like to highlight the development of our new e-commerce platform in record time, 6 months, with a totally innovative architecture, which will bring efficiency and agility gains.

Just to give you an idea, in the current platform, we would take 2 to 3 weeks to deploy improvements in our website features and functionalities. With the new platform, this takes days if not hours. What is most interesting is that we did this with 150 people, of which more than 100 were developers, most of the time working from home. Hiring also improved with the process -- with the current process being 100% handled digitally.

On the sustainable front, I would like to reinforce our commitment as a group and remind you that we recently published our report, where we committed to zero deforestation, reduced CO2 emissions and reduced use of plastics at the stores. Our goal is to have 100% of our packages made with sustainable materials by 2025. We also want to reduce food waste by 50%.

And last but not least, we should never forget our social role. It was actually reinforced during COVID-19. However, it was always a priority for us through our partnerships with local producers and support to many social projects.

With that, let me hand over to Noël for his concluding remarks.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Thank you, Sébastien. As you could see, our ecosystem is accelerating greatly and promoting changes that will remain after the pandemic is behind us. We are already digital and growing not only online but also in our brick-and-mortar stores. In June, 39% of our sales of electronics and home appliances and 7.7% of food sales came from the online retail. We launched Atacadão Marketplace, and Banco Carrefour saw an 85% increase in the acquisition of online cards. Like-for-like sales of electronics and home appliances at the stores was 79.5% and food 14%. These are spectacular numbers.

We accelerated our e-commerce 3 years in 1 single quarter. With the approval of the Makro deal, we will accelerate our expansion by 1.5 years. Our omnichannel business model is more than proven. Our client is greatly engaged with our brand, which leads to increased share of wallet and higher NPS, which are now at unprecedented levels. These are very, very important structural changes. And they will bring not only benefits for the group's business but will accelerate our ecosystem even further.

Thank you very much for your attention. And now we will begin the question-and-answer session, when I will be joined by Sébastien, Roberto, Luis, Carlos and our whole team. Thank you very much. Questions, please.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Gustavo Oliveira UBS.

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Gustavo Oliveira
analyst

Congratulations on the results. My question has to do with the new promotional dynamics that you've implemented in the retail business. It seems to me that it is a model focused on everyday low price, which is the model you have for cash and carry, which is not traditionally the commercial model of retail in Brazil. Do you think it is possible to keep this up, this new promotional dynamic, which reduces a lot of volatility in the supply chain and makes pricing more transparent to consumers? Do you think it is long-lasting? Or do you think it's more related to what's happening now with the pandemic? How do you see this? Because I believe that this brought along significant gains in terms of revenue and profits, right?

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Luis?

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Luis Moreno
executive

Gustavo, thank you for the question. I will try to explain what Sébastien mentioned. We simplified our promotional model, we didn't eliminate it. Before the pandemic, we had 36% of promotions. Now we have a promotional share increasing from 36% -- or decreasing from 36% to 26%. We still have 75% of promotional sales that we had previously, but we achieved this level, reducing the number of products on sale by around 60%. So we have 60% fewer promotional products, but we still have 75% of promotional sales.

So we maintained this result with fewer products but in a more stable fashion. And there was a reduction of 40% to 45% in price changes at the stores because we decided a number of things, that our promotions would last at least a week. So we eliminated those 1-day promotions that would happen on a Saturday or on a Wednesday that would generate attractiveness to some customers, but in a pandemic moment, it would totally go against the measures to prevent crowds.

We also changed our way of communicating. We are communicating now through the digital channels. We are no longer having so many TV marketing because those TV spots had to do with a short-term promotions. And we reinvested in prices in different programs, one of them in our private label. We froze the prices of some 200 private label products. We have 30% increase in volume for groceries with our private label. We also invested in the category of commodities as our -- the products that all customers need. We also invested in fruits and vegetables. So we lowered the prices by 10% for a period of a week. And we recently launched a new program called the cheapest, including 39 categories with more than 80% penetration in Brazilian households. So we'll always have a product with the cheapest price in the market. So it's a simplification of the model. We still have a promotional component, but it is quite optimized and simplified, leading to significant gains.

In terms of shrinkage, we improved the shrinkage by more than 90 bps. We improved our supply by more than 40 bps that generates improvement at the stores, more than 25% productivity improvement. So all of that, with a dilution of expenses of 400 bps and a margin gain of more than 190 bps by improving shrinkage, improving our supply chain and not increasing prices. So we are very satisfied with this transformation model.

In addition, we are looking at clients in an individualized way through our loyalty program. We had a 30% share of wallet increase. And now, our customers are [ by ] 30% more at Carrefour banner, but that happens in 2 different ways. Our recurring customers increased their share of wallet by more than 40%. And we had some 10% of customers who were moved by promotions only. So in addition to the current pandemic context, when it was very appropriate to evolve this model that was already in our radar, we believe that there are many positive elements that we will maintain about these dynamics and that we will maintain after the pandemic is behind us.

Operator

Our next question comes from Joseph Giordano with JPMorgan.

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Joseph Giordano
analyst

Congratulations on very strong numbers. I would like to go back to the ecosystem that you are creating. It seems to me it is an ecosystem that tends to be very potentialized by the bank. So I'd like to understand, now as a full-fledged bank, how should we think the e-wallet in the strategy of the company in the midterm? How should we think about the rollout of the e-wallet given that other competitors will also try to be more aggressive? And going back to the ecosystem, I would like to understand the Cornershop's role. What is your strategy with Atacadão in an operation powered and fulfilled by Carrefour?

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Carlos, over to you.

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Carlos Mauad
executive

Well, I will begin talking about the bank. We announced in this past quarter the authorization granted by the Brazilian Central Bank for us to be a full-fledged bank. Now what does that mean in practical terms in our ecosystem? First, we take an important step forward in our journey towards efficiency, particularly in the post-pandemic scenario when we will need to have an operation even more efficient from all points of view. We'll start organizing our own billings, and that will bring about additional savings. We will be issuing our own payment slips. We'll be doing banking settlement. All of that will generate efficiency in terms of reducing expenses in the next 12 months. So this will be a leverage for the bank. We issue about 5 million, 6 million payment slips every month. This will be a tool for the whole ecosystem, the supplement platform that we built. So e-commerce will be able to use the platform, Atacadão, Carrefour as well. When the time is right, all of these services will be fully available to the ecosystem as a whole.

Additionally, we start integrations and testing of PIX. It is the payment of instantaneous payment promoted by the Brazilian Central Bank. And the fact that we are integrated with all settlement chambers of the Central Bank, that allows us to have a head start in terms of the way in which we are going to use PIX as part of the ecosystem. I'm not just talking about the bank here but how PIX is going to be accepted by Carrefour, Atacadão, and how the bank will be an onboarding tool for our customers in this new dynamic that the Central Bank is promoting.

We'll be able to form commercial portfolios. So we'll be able to form an MVP for company loans. And the entry door will be the long tail acquiring business, which is a business that we are already testing in some of Atacadão stores. And we'll be able to provide some services even for the e-wallet. Part of the attrition will be eliminated. Our e-wallet is already in MVP. We should have about 5,000 accounts opened. And both Atacadão and Carrefour will be able to use this. We'll be able to have product improvement. We'll be able to extend the addressable audience so that we can scale up this product in our store structure and as part of our digital channels.

So when Sébastien said that this is an important landmark for the bank, it is because it opens a number of agendas. We can have instantaneous payment. We open up an agenda of higher efficiency for the bank and the group. It opens up the possibility for us to offer other loan portfolios and to provide important services for the e-wallet itself so that we can expand our e-wallet faster.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

And regarding corner stop -- Cornershop?

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José Müssnich
executive

Thank you for the question. I won't speak only about Cornershop because this is still at a testing stage in São Paulo, just like with Rappi in B2C. We are planning to do a calm rollout so that we can understand customers well. And this has made me very hopeful and happy.

Digital is a new path for Atacadão. It opens up a whole new spectacular frontier in relationship with our customers not only in B2B but B2C as well. In B2B, we create a possible different path considering the capillarity of Atacadão. We are practically present in 80% of Brazilian cities, very soon 90%. We will be opening 3 new stores this year. And for people to use all of the physical part, the brick-and-mortar piece of the puzzle that we have all over Brazil, it will help the company and suppliers to improve distribution. So this is a new path. Step by step, we are growing with amazing opportunities to attracting new customers, new suppliers and new friends with this new system. With Cornershop, like I said, it's in São Paulo. We have the possibility to roll it out. We are very happy with the level of service and the kind of success that this partnership is bringing.

Operator

Next question by Tobias Stingelin with Citibank.

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Tobias Stingelin
analyst

Congratulations on excellent results. Well, I have a couple of questions I would like to ask. You talked about provisions. Do you think the provisions are adequate for the operation? And the second question, I'd like to understand how do you imagine the sales curve to perform looking forward? There was a deceleration in the past quarter. It seems this deceleration continues a little. So what do you expect sales to be in the third and fourth quarter? And finally, it seems to me that e-commerce will be accelerating even more. Do you think you will need to invest more to accelerate growth even further or not? Should we expect the growth to continue strong and then the margins will increase in the future?

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Carlos Mauad
executive

Thank you, Tobias, for the questions. Level of provisions. When we talk about IFRS 9 consolidated results, the provisions are always adequate. It's always about expectation of future losses and not about incurred losses, which is more linked to local levels. When we talk about the cost of additional credit that we had in the quarter, when we look at the second quarter, we probably see lower credit expense but still higher than previous years because of the reopening of economic activity because credit is not just performance, it's also about volume. So we tried to make adjustments, particularly in acquisition and also in the strategy to increase credit limit so as to reduce the exposure of the bank and to bring the risk of the loan portfolio to the current moment we are experiencing. But we continue to accelerate so that by 2021, we'll play strongly in this game and so that the bank will continue to be representative in the credit cards market and follow the whole group in Brazil. As we accelerate the reopening of the economy, billings, portfolios, in the generation of assets, all of that will bring a consequent increase in our provisions.

Just to give you an order of magnitude, the portfolio, the loan portfolio that I am building that has nothing to do with the prices, so it's very resilient. The provision is of around 9.1%. For every BRL 1,000 I sell, I have BRL 91 in my provision. So there is a cost of credit, particularly the resumption of the economy. And because of that, we should see higher volumes of provisions than in previous years.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Thank you, Tobias, for the question. Sébastien?

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Luis Moreno
executive

Can I address a little bit of the second question regarding sales trends looking forward? I would just like to remind you that in the case of Carrefour, if we look at the last 3 quarters, we already saw double-digit growth. In the first quarter, we grew 9%; in the fourth quarter, almost 13%; and in the third quarter of 2019, 9%. So we were already posting growth, but we were following the market growth. What happened in this quarter is that we grew 30% and the market grew 15%. So we increased that growth gap vis-à-vis the market.

Now what can we expect looking forward? In July, we see more or less the same trend that we had in the second quarter. For now, we don't see a change in that level. Perhaps in the future, there might be other challenges, but we are very confident that our sales performance will continue to be way above market performance.

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José Müssnich
executive

From the Atacadão side, we maintain the sales pace. The rest is a crystal ball. We don't know what's going to happen. We see a lot of unemployment. People don't have savings. And of course, our model has proven to be very resilient with an everyday low-price model. Like I always tell you, in moments of crisis, we have a solution. You just have to come to Atacadão and buy.

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Natália Lacava
executive

Thank you. I can't remember the third question. Noël, he wants to know about e-commerce. If you intend to invest more in e-commerce to accelerate it even further or whether we are just going to reap the fruits of what we have done so far without the need to invest more.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

In our view, we have partners like Cornershop, Rappi, and that we intend to accelerate because we believe it is good business and will allow us to gain market share quickly. We also have our side stores. We opened 10 side stores in the end of 2019. And we have the capacity to grow more by 2021. So we see strong growth in nonfood.

The good news is that we already have profitability. So that allows us to grow without losing money. So we're already making money, and we will maintain the pace. We won't be needing additional investments until 2021. And -- but we have the new platform that will be rolled out perhaps in the end of the third quarter or beginning of the fourth quarter of this year. And this has been included in the investments for this year. And this will bring advantages to us because with the new platform, we'll have a lot more flexibility, and this will help us to sell more. So these are all good news all around.

Operator

Next question by Guilherme Assis with Safra Bank.

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Guilherme Assis
analyst

I would like you to elaborate on market share gains in a competitive environment. The kind of growth you had was truly impressive, particularly in multi-retail in the retail segment. So I'd like to understand more. We can see that the strategy that you adopted was the right one. What I would like to understand is what you have seen in terms of reaction of competitors. Have you identified any different moves by competitors in terms of your strategy to maintain prices, to freeze prices, to focus on longer promotions, on more staple items? How is the competition reacting to that? And will this require any counter-reaction from Carrefour to be able to maintain these market share gains? This is one question.

And I'll move to my second question straight away. It has to do with working capital. You invested more in working capital in the second quarter. I think it was a very atypical quarter. You renegotiated with some suppliers, and I think this does fit the context of Q2. But looking forward, what should we expect? Do you think you'll be able to keep investing in working capital in the short term? Or do you think you can reverse a little of this investment in working capital and reduce the cash cycle? And when should we expect that? By year-end? Or is this going to happen only next year? And does this depend on the macro environment related to the crisis? So how do you see working capital? These are my 2 questions.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Luis?

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Luis Moreno
executive

Thank you for the question. Regarding market share gains, indeed, they were significant. We grew twice as much as the market. And for hypermarkets, we had a market share of 16.5% to 18.9% market share, 240 bps of market share gain in the hypermarket channel. This hypermarket gain has to do with customers choosing Carrefour to buy in the pandemic period and for a number of reasons.

Why did customers behave in that way? I would mention 3 reasons. Number one, we anticipated all safety measures that have to do with caring for customers and staff alike at our stores. And based on the information we had from Europe, we were the first to provide face masks, to measure body temperature of our customers and staff. So customers felt a lot safer at our stores. We also anticipated and changed our supply chain parameters. We anticipated which categories and products would boom in sales, and we were able to adjust our supply chain parameters. That led to a very low stock-out level at our stores compared with the rest of the market. And thirdly, we simplified the commercial and the promotional models. So customers felt safer with our COVID-19-related protocols. They were able to buy everything that they needed, no stock out at the stores. And they could buy everything that they needed at permanently low prices, not just promotional prices. So I believe that we delivered these 3 measures.

And a lot of that had to do with the right timing. In my view, the competition did not anticipate things as we did, and they didn't have the right timing. They weren't fast enough to enjoy the pandemic opportunities.

Now what the competitors can do in the future? Well, they each have their own strategy, but we are very confident about the results of our strategy. And more than anything, we are satisfied with the recognition by customers regarding what we can deliver and offer. We maintained our quality of service at the stores, the quality of our fresh produce. And we changed the commercial model. And we maintained the same quality of service.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

And Luis, let me add something. Luis' work and his team were focused on selling more, improving results, but also an important front was to create the stage for the future. This is not just about a quarterly result. As part of this quarterly result, we have invested greatly for future growth. And this is already happening. It will be interesting to see if anybody will be able to follow in Carrefour's footsteps because there are 2 challenges: what we already have and what we have already done to set the stage and the right conditions for the future quarters. It's all done, and we have some other surprises in the pipeline as well.

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Guilherme Assis
analyst

That's very clear.

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Sébastien Durchon
executive

But there was a second part to your question regarding working capital, and let me give you a very accurate answer. In the end of the second quarter, our working capital was negative in almost BRL 1 billion. Negative means that we had more financing to suppliers than inventory. If I compare the same point with last year and of the second quarter of 2019, we improved almost by BRL 400 million.

If we look at this in number of days, things have improved over last year. Last year, we had 5 days of procurement, and that number increased to 7. So we improved in terms of volume and in terms of number of days of procurement. And as part of the working capital, we extended payment time to suppliers. And this has to do with this quarter and with seasonality in a way. This year, we had the Merchant Week at Atacadão. And we didn't have such a strong commercial activity last year. So in June -- in May, June, we had some procurement and we paid only in the following quarter. And this is why the number of days and our accounts payable increased. And now we have 9 more days compared to last year. This does not have anything to do with the pandemic.

And another change in this quarter as part of our working capital has to do with accounts receivable. Accounts receivable in number of days, the number of days increased from 5 days last year to 9 days this year. And this is our own decision about financing. It happens at Carrefour. At Carrefour, we have a lot of payments by customers paying with credit cards. We normally sell these receivables. But in this quarter, this was not necessary for the increase is our own decision. It is a merely financial decision. It has nothing to do with market conditions.

So in a nutshell, working capital improved. And looking forward, we don't see a performance different from last year. We expect to have a very comparable situation with last year.

J
José Müssnich
executive

In terms of competitive environment for Atacadão, the environment did not change at all, but competition is always fiercer and fiercer. But we have a very clear purpose. And we have a very clear definition regarding culture, being the business owner and regarding our people. I can tell you that we have currently 57,000 heroes that did their work in an amazing way because we are an essential service. The moment that they understood that and with a very strong culture, my friend, you cannot lose. We can only lose if we mess it up, which we won't do.

Operator

Next question by Gabriel Disselli with Santander.

G
Gabriel Disseli
analyst

Congratulations on the results. I'd just like to have a better sense because you had a great performance in nonfood. Perhaps you could give us more color on this performance and explain what's happening now with the reopening of other stores. What has been the sales of nonfood?

L
Luis Moreno
executive

Like-for-like sales of nonfood grew 54%. This happened in all categories but more significantly in electronics and home appliances. What we saw in July was not a different trend than what we saw in the last 3 months even with the reopening of street shops and nonfood, so we remain at the same level. Electronics and home appliances have been growing significantly above 70%, 80% in the last 3 months. When we -- we saw sales increase in textiles, in general merchandise categories as well. So the trend remains strong at the same levels so far.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

In the progression of nonfood, it theoretically would be good in COVID context. We have to understand that COVID was a catalyst, but this is a trend. Carrefour is accelerating nonfood a lot. And now we are maintaining this kind of growth. And again, of course, we cannot tell you everything because if we do, we would be providing solutions to our competitors, but we changed greatly the concept of nonfood in retail. And this has brought us very strong growth and profitable growth. And again, I'd like to congratulate Luis and the team because they did background work. It's not just promotions. It's about building more and more the right assortment, pricing; and marketing, which is totally different. And this acceleration is the result of that. With COVID or without COVID, we'll be accelerating.

L
Luis Moreno
executive

I totally agree with Noël. Our growth level in nonfood pre COVID was already in a high double-digit, close to 20%. So we increased from 20% to 54%, but we already had a very strong growth base. And the like-for-like sales that we are reporting is a like-for-like sales on -- compared to a very strong base.

Operator

Question by Robert Ford with Bank of America.

R
Robert Ford
analyst

Congratulations on the results. [Technical Difficulty]

L
Luis Moreno
executive

Unfortunately, the connection is breaking up. I am sorry, I cannot understand the question.

N
Natália Lacava
executive

Robert, can you speak a little louder? We were not able to understand the question.

R
Robert Ford
analyst

I would like [Technical Difficulty] you talked about a new platform…

N
Natália Lacava
executive

I apologize, but we could not understand. Noël, I think he wants to know whether the impressive growth we had in the quarter had to do with the stabilization of the platform that we spoke about or if this has not happened yet. I think this is what the question was.

N
Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Well, we have the old platform. We have not rolled out the new platform yet. The new platform will also bring impressive growth because today, our current platform is not very flexible, not too easy for customers. But still, we grow a lot with the current platform. The new one will bring something even better. We consider that we will maintain growth. With COVID and the stores all closed, this helped us sell more online. But now with all of the stores and shops opened, we see that we are still posting strong growth in July. So I think that we have a lot of room in this market for food and for nonfood. And I don't think that this is going to change a lot.

We believe the potential for Grupo Carrefour, for the Carrefour Group is enormous. We already rank seventh in number of visits to the website, and that does not include traffic that we have with Rappi and Cornershop. If we included all that, Carrefour would already be ranked fourth or fifth in 2 to 3 years, and this is what is really relevant.

When we are asked whether we are afraid of some players that are selling in the food segment, it's the contrary. Competitors have a problem because Carrefour is accelerating a lot. It used to be just on food, but now we're accelerating nonfood as well. And it's spectacular. It's a whole new story and a very interesting one. We will lead this market with Carrefour on one hand, Atacadão on the other hand, and in nonfood and being profitable, which is really interesting.

L
Luis Moreno
executive

And I would like to add to the explanation regarding growth drivers. Surely, our e-commerce grew very quickly. We are getting close to a breakeven. We reported a like-for-like sales in brick-and-mortar retail plus e-commerce of 30.3%. But the brick-and-mortar stores also grew 27.5%. So e-commerce had 280 bps of growth to growth that was already very strong, 27.5%. And the same goes for the EBITDA. E-commerce is getting close to breakeven but still not contributing significantly to drive EBITDA. The EBITDA that we are reporting of brick-and-mortar stores plus e-commerce is 9.3%. If I look at the brick-and-mortar stores, the EBITDA level generated in the second quarter is an EBITDA of 10.8%, close to 11% EBITDA of brick-and-mortar Carrefour stores. So the 2 ecosystems are working as one, and it's all accelerating, physical stores, e-commerce and the combination of the 2 brought us this far.

Operator

Our next question comes from Sgarz, Irma with Goldman Sachs.

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Irma Sgarz
analyst

Most of my questions have been answered, but I have a couple more. One has to do with the capturing of new customers through e-commerce. And you have customers at the hypermarkets increasing recurring repurchases and NPS. Any lessons learned from your European operations to drive your actions here? Well, you have many different formats, 5, 6 different formats, but that does not necessarily translate into high tickets. But when we have more mobility of people, other stores will recover some foot traffic. So how do you see your plans and strategies to maintain these clients in the second half of the year? And how can the prior knowledge from Europe help you with that when the economy reopens?

My second question, is it fair to say that the fact that you didn't celebrate Atacadão's anniversary also had an impact in the gross margin in Q2 of Atacadão? Or do you think that Atacadão was not impacted by that?

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Luis?

L
Luis Moreno
executive

Regarding the first question, Irma, thank you. Noël mentioned that we have some surprises for the future. We are not going to elaborate on that, but we will on the release of the third quarter. But these initiatives have to do with how to keep these new customers in the Carrefour ecosystem, how to maintain new customers that we acquired at the bank, in e-commerce, at Atacadão or in brick-and-mortar stores. So what we are developing are models to connect all of the parts of the ecosystem so that we can keep these customers with us.

N
Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Roberto?

J
José Müssnich
executive

Irma, indeed, Dia A, Atacadão Day, does bring a plus, but I would say that this does not make a difference. It did not make a difference in this quarter. The difference was that the pandemic got us with high-quality inventory. So we were expected to run the Atacadão anniversary day, but we were able to -- we had to cancel, but we were able to manage the inventory. We took advantage of -- that the market gave us to supply to our customers to serve their needs. But if you look in that, a lot of that margin comes from efficiency improvements and reduced expenses not only for Atacadão but for Carrefour as well. So there was a movement of awareness. Our management was very nimble to contain expenses, thinking about the worst. But we had preparedness, and we were very agile in responding to the crisis. And this is what brought margins to that level.

S
Sébastien Durchon
executive

No. I don't need to add anything. You said it all, Roberto.

Operator

Next question from Helena Villares with Itaú.

H
Helena Villares
analyst

I have a very quick question. We have the hypermarket model. During the pandemic, other hypermarkets also gained a lot of momentum. We would like to understand what you're thinking regarding hypermarkets format. How much of the performance is coming from COVID-19 and social distancing? What are you thinking about future growth for hypermarkets?

L
Luis Moreno
executive

Well, firstly, it is important to understand that Carrefour hypermarkets have always played an important role in our ecosystem. There is a new client of Banco Carrefour had, as an entry door, the Carrefour hypermarket. So it's not just about the performance of the hypermarkets. It's about the connection with our ecosystem. I believe that a good part of the attributes that we delivered to customers in this period will remain.

Customers do appreciate a purchasing environment which is orderly, clean, safe, with good assortment, good prices, good quality of service and good fresh produce. If we're able to maintain all of these attributes, which are generating a record NPS for us, it was quite high before COVID, but we believe that with this format, we continue to have strong opportunity in Brazil.

In addition, we have the nonfood categories which continue to leverage our growth very strongly. We also place our chips on our private label. So we have the right tools. We have enough leverage either in our private label food or nonfood or in perishables or in quality of service, our whole new digital service and our digitalization program. All of that lead us to believe that we stand a very good chance of success in Brazil. And we believe hypermarkets have a lot to deliver in the future.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

N
Natália Lacava
executive

I believe that there are no more questions. There are some questions that were sent over the chat, and I'll try to summarize them.

There's an interesting question. You mentioned that some changes that we structured during the lockdown are permanent. What are the changes that have come to stay? And another question about the Atacadão Marketplace initiative, if you can elaborate.

N
Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Luis?

L
Luis Moreno
executive

Okay. The questions that have come to [ stay ], basically, those linked to the simplification of the business model. Increasing efficiency, productivity and improving supply chain, all of the initiatives that we implemented to improve efficiency. And also some initiatives to evolve towards digital marketing, not TV marketing or print tabloids but rather digital marketing. We understand that, that is a lot more efficient and assertive. That's another measure that we adopted and that we believe will continue. And the simplification of all of our promotional campaign, we believe that it was well accepted and well embraced by our customers. So operational simplification, a simplified value proposition for customers and migration of marketing to digital marketing, these are 3 structural changes that will be part of our mode of operation in the future.

N
Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Roberto?

J
José Müssnich
executive

In terms of the Atacadão Marketplace, we always focus on offering our B2B clients the best price option in the market. There are opportunities in the market for Atacadão and for our possible competitors. On the other hand, in August will be launched B2B [ www.atacadao ] to create a direct communication channel. And like I said, it's step by step, very slowly but firmly, we are advancing. I would say this is almost like an elephant. It takes some time to take a step. But when it does take a step forward, the elephant is very sure of what it's doing. And this is the model we're adopting at Atacadão.

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Noël Frederic Georges Prioux;Chief Executive Officer
executive

Thank you, Roberto. Thank you for this very important analogy. Well, there are no more questions. So I would like to thank you for your attention. I would like to thank my whole team for such spectacular results in this quarter. I think that the third quarter is already pointing to a positive trend in terms of sales. And I hope to see you again to celebrate excellent results also in the end of the third quarter, when we will update you on Carrefour's situation.

Thank you very much, and I hope to see you soon.

Operator

Thank you all. This does conclude Carrefour Brasil's conference call for today. Thank you very much for your participation, and have a good day.

[Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]