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Earnings Call Transcript
2022-Q4

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Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Coronado Global Resources Fourth Quarter Investor Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Andrew Mooney, Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications. Please go ahead.

A
Andrew Mooney
executive

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining Coronado's fourth quarter investor call. Today, we released our quarterly report to the ASX and SEC in which we outlined our production and sales volumes as well as other key information related to our safety results, coal markets and financial performance. A more detailed outline of our financial position and results will be released to the market on the 22nd of February with our Form 10-K and full year earnings release. We will convene another call then to outline in more depth our financial outcomes and forward plans.

Today, I'm joined by our Managing Director and CEO, Gerry Spindler; and our Group CFO, Gerhard Ziems. Within our report, you will see our notice regarding forward-looking statements and reconciliations of certain non-U.S. GAAP financial measures. We encourage you to review these statements in conjunction with our other filings with the ASX and SEC. I also remind everyone that Coronado quotes all numbers in U.S. dollars and metric tonnes unless otherwise stated.

With that, I'll hand the call over to Gerry.

G
Garold Spindler
executive

Thank you, Andrew, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. Coronado Global Resources ended 2022, with record financial results, delivered record dividend to shareholders and continue to maintain a very strong and secure balance sheet. The excellent 2022 shareholder returns are in part due to the improved market conditions year-on-year, but also due to the significant work undertaken by our Board, management and employees in progressing strategic initiatives that are coming to fruition. I would like to thank all Coronado employees for their dedication over the past 12 months in helping drive our successes.

Our record financial results and returns have occurred despite the impacts to production from considerable wet weather conditions in Queensland and global economic circumstances that have driven significantly higher inflation. Expectations are that weather patterns will improve in 2023 and global inflationary impacts will ease, which should translate to improved production and cost for our business. However, should these events, which are outside our control, continue, I remain extremely confident in our ability to address all challenges presented to the company and in our ability to continue to provide enhanced value and returns to all shareholders.

Before we elaborate on our results, firstly, I would like to provide an overview of our safety results. The safety and well-being of our workforce continues to be Coronado's #1 priority. To that end, I am again pleased to advise that reportable rates in both Australia and the U.S. continue to remain below the relevant industry averages. In Australia, the 12-month rolling average total reportable injury frequency rate at the 31st of December, was it's 3.92%. And in the United States, the total reportable incident rate was 2.4%. On a consolidated basis, the group's total reportable incident rate stands at 1.41.

I am proud to confirm that the Logan complex finished 2022 with its best total reportable incident rate under Coronado ownership, reflecting a 25% safety improvement year-on-year. Additionally, our Lower War Eagle mine, which is part of the Logan complex, achieved 1 million man hours for 3 years lost time injury-free, which is a tremendous achievement. New and revised health and safety initiatives continue to be implemented across Coronado operations quarterly with a focus on training programs and hazard identification and mitigation.

Turning to our operational performance. Coronado completed the fourth quarter with higher production volumes and stockpiles compared to the prior September quarter. Group run-of-mine coal production was 6.7 million tonnes, up 4% and group saleable production was 4.3 million tonnes, up 4%. Group sales volumes we were 4 million tonnes, down 4% compared to the September quarter. If we focus on Australia first, run-of-mine production from the Australian operations of 3.6 million tonnes was 21% higher compared to the September quarter. Similarly, saleable production of 2.8 million tonnes was 15% higher quarter-on-quarter.

Sales volumes totaled 2.4 million tonnes, which aligned with the September quarter. Elevated coal mining activities per the plan in late December saw coal inventory levels at year-end build to more than double those at the end of September, which should bode well for March quarter shipments. Improvement in these key metrics quarter-on-quarter build on substantial improvements realized in the September quarter, which were achieved despite the heavier December quarter rainfall. These improvements reflect the return on investments made in 2022 under the One Curragh Plan.

While production improvements at Curragh were noted quarter-on-quarter, the rain events in the Bowen Basin continued throughout the December quarter, which further hindered coal production. The town of Blackwater, the nearest town to Curragh, received 290 millimeters of rain in the quarter, which was 112 millimeters higher than the prior quarter. 2022 rainfall levels for Blackwater have totaled 792 millimeters, which is substantially higher than the 10-year rainfall average for the area, but also 200 millimeters higher than rainfall levels in 2021. The consistent rainfall this year has been a key contributor to the lower production volumes and higher mining costs per tonne.

Despite the impacts of the Bowen Basin rain events, Curragh has executed its capital investments in the mine plan, specifically investments targeting dragline performance and waste movement, which have translated to improved performance. The mine successfully finished 2022 with waste movement totals exceeding 2021 levels.

Further initiatives implemented in accordance with the One Curragh Plan included the transition of 4 contracted fleets to a Coronado operator model at Curragh North. Mine planning improvements to decongest the operating pits and improve Curragh's overall strike length and the commencement of high-vol mining activities deliver restricted coal under the overlaying conveyor. These initiatives are realizing tangible benefits for Curragh that have helped mitigate the impact of rain and position the mine well to 2023.

Capital growth plans at the Curragh mine continue in accordance with existing expansion plans to reach 13.5 million tonnes per year by 2025. Planned growth activities continue with the completion of the Curragh North underground pre-feasibility study, which are showing positive results. Additionally, a project at Curragh targeting the capture and use of coal seam methane as a diesel substitute has commenced. Drill contractors have mobilized to site and have commenced the drilling program. This project forms part of Coronado's greater strategy to reduce emissions from open cut mining and reduce energy costs by investigating potential investment strategies into wind, solar and gas projects.

Today, I am also pleased to confirm that our current team continued to make significant process in meeting our rehabilitation targets during the quarter by completing another 28 hectares of work. This brings total completed rehabilitation works in 2022 to 170 hectares of land, the equivalent of 171 full-size football fields.

Turning to our U.S. business. 2022 saleable production from the U.S. operations was 6.2 million, down [indiscernible] compared to the prior year. Largely lower production year-on-year, primarily stem from the rock intrusion experienced at the Buchanan Mine in April, which is now safely behind us in the mine plan. The production impacts from the rock intrusion were partly offset by improved labor availability across both Logan and Buchanan in the second half of the year and the commencement of a new Winnerford mine at Logan in the September quarter.

December quarter production and sales volumes for the U.S. business were lower compared to the September quarter, but aligned with plan. The December quarter is traditionally a quarter with lower labor hours due to Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays. Additionally, the operations and logistics chains were partly impacted by the severe snowstorm conditions in December. During the second half of 2022, consultation and engagement with various communities and state and local governments in the U.S. regarding our Tier 1 Buchanan Mine plan growth mine and growth plans continue to take place. The detailed work undertaken with local counties and the Governor of Virginia, Mr. Glenn Youngkin, have resulted in Coronado securing grants and incentives to progress with our Buchanan expansion plan.

In the December quarter, Coronado continued capital works at the Buchanan Mine to expand its raw coal storage space and commence construction of a second set of skips. Growth plan at our U.S. operations to produce 6.9 million tonnes by 2025 remain on target. On September -- 17th of December 2023, Governor Youngkin and other distinguished guests visited our Buchanan Mine in a show of support for our growth plans to continue producing high-quality met coal in Virginia and in supporting the state and local communities in which we operate. During 2022, our U.S. business also progressed its reclamation plans by completing rehabilitation works on 52 hectares of land across Buchanan, Logan and the Greenbrier operations.

Last week, we notified the market with my intention to retire from my position as Chief Executive Officer of Coronado. I'm very pleased to announce and congratulate Douglas Thompson on his appointment as Coronado's next CEO in accordance with our planned succession process. I feel a deep commitment and endless gratitude to all employees, shareholders and customers of this company having been involved with Coronado since its inception. This is a significant personal decision for me as one I am very comfortable making, given my high level of confidence in the succession plans we have in place, and in Douglas, Gerhard and the rest of the Coronado team.

Douglas has been the company's Chief Operating Officer for Australia since September 2021 and has more than 25 years' experience in the mining industry, including as Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer of Thiess, an affiliate of the CIMIC Group. Over the coming months, as I continue in my role as CEO, I will work closely with Douglas to facilitate a smooth transition. Following my transition to my new role of Executive Chair, I will continue for a period to support and guide Douglas to lead the Board to ensure our business continues to evolve and grow.

I'll now hand over to Gerhard to talk to our financial position and market outlook.

G
Gerhard Ziems
executive

Thank you, Gerry, and good day, everybody. As Gerry mentioned earlier, 2022 was a very strong year for our company in which we delivered record revenue, EBITDA and dividend results while continuing to execute our capital management strategies.

Full year 2022 group revenues were at a record level of USD 3.6 billion, reflecting a 66% increase on the $2.1 billion of revenue generated in 2021. Met coal revenues comprised 95% of total coal revenues in 2022. December quarter revenues were $717 million, down 18% compared to the prior September quarter as we saw met coal pricing fall during the quarter. The group realized price per tonne of met coal sold in 2022, which is a mixture of FOB, FOR and domestic pricing was $266 per tonne. And I highlight here, again, that this is a blended price as we sell a lot of our coal on an FOR basis.

In December, Coronado completed the payment to shareholders of a $0.134 per CDI unfranked special dividend in total $226 million. This payment to shareholders was made from available cash and in accordance with the Coronado's distribution policy to distribute 60% to 100% of free cash flow. This brought total dividends paid in the calendar year to USD 700 million, which is a record for us. During 2022, we also had significant headway in reducing our debt obligations. During the year, Coronado repaid USD 73 million of debt and finished 2022 with a gross debt position of $242 million, down from $35 million in the prior year.

Strong cash flow generation in 2022 saw us consistently maintain a strong balance sheet and healthy liquidity. As of end of December 22, the company's net cash position was $92 million comprised of a closing cash balance of $334 million and senior secured notes totaling $242 million. We have available liquidity of USD 434 million at year end.

Turning to the capital expenditure. 2022 CapEx for the group was $185 million, double the level from 2021. CapEx was higher given the group's determination to invest in capital works, while pricing remained elevated to help secure future production rates from the Australian and U.S. operating segments. And in relation to our costs, 2022 average mining costs for the group were $88 per tonne, and the higher mining costs are due to continued inflationary pressures, wet-weather events resulting in lost production at Curragh and the completion of planned major maintenance activities at Buchanan and Curragh in the first half of the year. And we will officially release our full year suite of financial results, including EBITDA and net profit positions to the market on 22nd of February, with our Form 10-K. On this date, we will also provide market guidance for production costs and CapEx in 2023.

By looking at coal markets, the benchmark Australian premium low-vol hard-coking coal FOB average index price for the December quarter was $278 per tonne, up from an average of $250 per tonne in the September quarter. The U.S. East Coast low-vol HCC average index price for the December quarter was $273 per tonne, up from an average of $259 per tonne in the September quarter. The short-term global economic environment and steel demand outlook remains subdued, driven by the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, the resulting energy crisis in Europe and stubbornly high inflation rates. However, in 2023, Coronado expects met coal prices to remain above long-term historical averages, supported by the elevated thermal coal prices, the removal of Russian met coal from key markets and improved steel demand in the second half of the year.

Expectations of economic stimulus and the resumption of Australia, China coal trades are high, following the Chinese government's reversal of a zero COVID policy. The resumption of coal exports to China from Australia is significant due to China's position in the largest global -- as the largest global steel producer and the proximity, large scale and high quality of Australian met coal. And we expect Australian met coal imports to China to return in 2023 and displace lower quality and higher cost Chinese domestic or North American production, particularly due to the Chinese steel -- particularly due to the Chinese steelmakers in the southern regions of China, where significant sea freight advantages for Australian met coal exists.

Demand for Coronado's U.S. Buchanan brand is expected to remain strong in China, given the low ash, low sulfur characteristics of the coal and long history of reliable and consistent supply into the Chinese market. We anticipate that the resumption of Australian met coal imports into China will improve market dynamics overall as well as increased competition for Australian coal and will likely push out seaborne coal prices in the short term. Our met coal remains in high demand with customers offtake remaining firm and annual contracts with long-term customers being renewed for both Australian and U.S. ports.

Our North American annual contract negotiations for 2022 are now complete and active. Coronado expects to realize a volume weighted average price across all grades of met coal inclusive of thermal switching of approximately $21 per metric tonne FOR basis, reflecting a price that is $14 per metric tonne higher than prices contracted in 2022. So these fixed price met and thermal tender contracts over approximately -- cover approximately 40% of anticipated U.S. production and about 90% of anticipated U.S. mine cash costs and royalties in 2023. So given higher index prices in the December quarter and into January, combined with the commencement of Coronado's 2023 North America and higher cost annual contracts, we anticipate met coal price realization in the first quarter of 2023 to be higher than in the fourth quarter.

I'll now hand back over to the operator to take questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Paul Young with Goldman Sachs.

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Paul Young
analyst

First question is on Curragh and just the impacts of the flooding. I mean I guess the first point is that every operator at the Bowen Basin is being impacted by the flooding, and history shows is greater price and ultimately great for revenue. But one question I did have around Curragh was just on material movements, you did move more in 2022 to '21, which is a good result. But do you have to -- is there any catch-up required in the first half of material movements at Curragh for first half '23?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

Paul, we're fortunate in having Doug on board on this phone call. I'm going to ask him to answer those questions directly.

D
Douglas Thompson
executive

Thank you very much, Gerry, and good morning, Paul. Paul, no, we've got a mine plan that we've been diligently executing as a team as we call not just the mine plan but execution of all these activities taking Curragh up to where we have aspirations for the asset. And the mine plan has been diligently stuck to. The importance of it is compliance to plan and the discipline that we've put into the operations. So quarter 1 this year, it will be executed as per the execution last year.

Obviously, the wet weather is beyond our control is unprecedented and the points you make are very valid, particularly around pricing. Our team has responded very well in the lessons learned last year, the ability to manage water, remove water and keep operations clear so we can continue [indiscernible] the stockpiles we built like December have boded well for this quarter as well to make the mine more resilient to the end of -- start of the year, end of year normal weather patterns, and that should serve us for shippings.

P
Paul Young
analyst

Right. Congrats on the appointment, by the way. Maybe moving on to a couple of questions on product mix and also the market, maybe for Gerhard just on the market. Yes, I mean, absolutely, China agree that China, if they start buying Queensland met coal should be -- should play out what we saw a couple of years ago, saw positive for Queensland and arguably negative for the U.S. considering that Europe steel production is still pretty weak at the moment. The questions I just have here, Gerhard is, one, what inquiries have you had from China so far to buy coal? And then will it impact Buchanan sales volume? I know the Chinese like Buchanan but will impact that your sales volumes to China? And do you think you might see a bit of an unwind of the Buchanan price relative to Queensland?

G
Gerhard Ziems
executive

Yes. Thanks, Paul, and happy new year. Listen, I think, first of all, yes, we have received some inquiries -- and from a number of parties, not only the officially approved parties. And I hear even -- and that's not us, but I hear even that one steel producer, a Chinese producer bought a cargo, too. I think we have to be mindful that at the moment, we don't see a lot of movement activity in the market simply because we have the Chinese New Year. And as I said last week and the week before, we probably don't see a lot of movement in January, I think if China comes back to the market, then we need to see more approved steelmakers getting the permission to import. And we will see that probably in February, March evolving.

The one thing I highlighted also is that all Australian producers, not only us, we are currently in negotiations with all steelmakers in Asia, particularly but also Europe, and these negotiations concluded in March. So that means most likely, Chinese steelmaker won't engage in these negotiations, won't get contracts with Australian producers, which also means the line spot tonnes, which also means that we see a little bit of a slower ramp-up here in 2023, if it happens.

So coming to Buchanan as I said in my outline here, Buchanan remains a very popular product because of its characteristics. So it's a very popular product in China, but it has become incredibly popular in Europe as well. So for us, we look forward to both. In the end, what this means when China opens its gates to Australian coal, there won't be as much in 2023. There is still demand for high-quality American coal, and Buchanan is one of the most popular coals out of the U.S. into China, so we look forward to that.

P
Paul Young
analyst

Last question just on your product mix sort of thermal coal percentage jumps in the quarter on the Aussie domestic sales or with the timing of deliveries of thermal to Stanwell Power.

G
Gerhard Ziems
executive

Yes, exactly.

P
Paul Young
analyst

Okay. And just is that like fourth quarter, why is the fourth quarter go?

G
Gerhard Ziems
executive

Not really, but it was just kind of this quarter. So look, I mean, from memory -- and I need to check, but from memory, the overall thermal proportion jumped from 3% to 5%, so we are still in a healthy space here. So we are quite happy where this.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jon Scholtz with Macquarie.

J
Jon Scholtz
analyst

Just a quick one on Buchanan, the expansion plans there, could you just give us some color on what needs to be done to get to the 6.9 million tonne level you flagged in the release?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

Going through the general strategy of the expansion, Buchanan is a mine that is bottlenecked by its shaft capacity, and the skip hoist capacity in taking the coal outside the mine. Also on the inventory capacity once outside to accommodate the shipments to [indiscernible] roads, we're expanding both to lose the principal focus on the expansions we're doing. We'll spend money on the prep plant at the latter part of the program. But right now, the focus is on utilizing an existing shaft. For additional skip hoist capacity and expanding the rock coal stockpile and green gold stockpile yards on the surface.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Lachlan Shaw with UBS.

L
Lachlan Shaw
analyst

Just a couple and just picking up on Paul's comment about China. So given split between the contract tonnes, spot volumes, obviously, Chinese New Year at the moment and sort of China Australia price spread upside, which is not sort of super conducive to more imported to China. What's your expectation in terms of how quickly or slowly we might see more tonnes going into China from Queensland?

G
Gerhard Ziems
executive

So again, as I said before, it's -- I don't -- I think it will be a slower ramp up. There's probably a very low probability of contracts as we all negotiate our contracts, all Australian coal producers negotiate the contracts right now. And the new contractual year opens on first April. China is in Chinese New Year right now, so not a lot happening between now and February and then going into March when we conclude these contracts. So China will rely entirely on spot tonnes that are available or not available in the market. So last year, 2022, we didn't have a lot of spot tonnes in the market available simply because of wet weather events out of Australia. Hopefully, that improves in 2023, but then even then China will rely on spot tonnes. So I think it will be a slow ramp up.

If you go back in history, China used to import about 80 million tonnes out of Australia of coal, 50-50 thermal and met coal, so let's say, 40 million tonnes of met coal. Of that 40 million tonnes, 3 million to 7 million tonnes or semi and PCI, so we talk about hard coking coal 33 million tonnes. That was the best -- the kind of before COVID and before embargo, 33 million tonnes per annum out of Australia hard coking coal. So you can already say the semi-soft and PCI don't come back into China out of Australia because Chinese steelmakers can procure that at a significant discount out of Russia. So then you work back from the 33 million tonnes, I guess, at best this year in 2023, China imports may be up to 20 million tonnes of hard coking coal on Australia at best.

L
Lachlan Shaw
analyst

Okay. That makes sense. Maybe just a follow-on -- a couple of follow-ons, actually. So just -- you touched on Russian exports, are you seeing more interest in the market right now, particularly from Japan, but maybe Korea and Taiwan as well to replace Russian material, which is not going to get rolled over into the next Japanese financial year?

G
Gerhard Ziems
executive

Yes, we have been seeing that for a while now. Yes, absolutely. I mean most Japanese steel producers have in imposed embargo on Russian coal, and we see the same out of Korea. Definitely, we have been seeing that for a while.

L
Lachlan Shaw
analyst

Yes, makes sense. And then final one. So just in terms of Queensland and the weather, obviously, been very impactful, the climate outlook is for La Niña to gradually normalize, heading into midyear. In a scenario where you did start to see a more favorable weather mix, how do you think about how long it might be or the ability for you guys to start to sort of push material out of Curragh, given that we do hear stories about ongoing labor shortages of particular skills.

D
Douglas Thompson
executive

Gerry, I'll step in with it being Curragh. Our mine planning is based on long term where the pattern averages, we obviously consider short-term impacts just like you've highlighted, we're also seeing an improvement in the wet patterns for this year, which bodes well for our increased forecast out of Curragh's production. So that's in our plan.

You mentioned labor as well. We've been very fortunate with one of our strategies of in-sourcing some of the work, so the full fleets that we know ourselves perform. We managed to secure workforce through last year at the right price in the market and a very stable and good workforce. And with our contracting partners, we see stability through them through the rest of this year as well. So we're not exposed in Australia to any of the labor risk that you may be flagging.

Operator

Your next question comes from Glyn Lawcock with Barrenjoey.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

Just on the weather, I mean, if I look at January up in Blackwater, you've actually had 135 mils this month or more than 3x January last year, a year before, so well above the average. Any impacts so far? Or is the stockpiles you've built coming into the month being very, very good and handy to offset that?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

Again, let me turn this one over to Doug who has the first hand knowledge. Doug?

D
Douglas Thompson
executive

Exactly, you've gone through the number, but what we didn't have a benefit of through last year just because of the hindrances of the wet weather was a form of buffer. The work put into the mine plan and the execution of the plan late last year has offered us that opportunity in anticipation of an increased wet in the first quarter that's been used to buttress that we can continue to flow of coal to the [indiscernible] while operations have been hindered by the unprecedented wet weather. So I'm pleased to say the plan has delivered, and we're all looking for the clear skies in Queensland to come. I think the whole industry at this stage is looking to that.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

All right. So there's been no damage or anything as well as a result of this heavy rain in the last week?

D
Douglas Thompson
executive

So our operations, fortunately not damaging the coal that isn't recoverable in normal operations, no.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

All right. That's good to hear. Gerry, just turning to the U.S., I note that your comments now, you're going to be putting 40% of your U.S. production into the domestic market, up from about low 30s last year. I would have thought better margins offshore? Or am I missing something?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

No, not really. The -- first of all, we've got a better price on the domestic market than we thought we would. Secondly, the domestic -- most of what we sell domestically [indiscernible]. So when you start looking at where the high vol would go into Europe and what the market is for high vol, given the Ukraine situation, given the markets in Europe, frankly, we don't expect that high vol will do as well in Europe long term over the rest of this year as what we've already secured in the U.S. So while 40% and a slightly higher margin does go domestically, that improvement is always entirely high-vol section, Buchanan is free to go internationally as it always has been.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

Okay. So that's predominantly what more your Logan type coal as it -- obviously.

G
Garold Spindler
executive

That's right.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

And then just a final question, just on the management changes. I mean the Executive Chairman role, not something we see all that often in Australia. I mean why the decision for Executive General? I mean how long are you thinking of sitting in that position for? And how do you think about the demarcation of responsibilities, with you taking the executive role and Douglas moving into the CEO role? And then just while you're answering, maybe -- sorry. Just you've got Gerhard now taking on strategic investment activity. What does that mean for '23 after, I guess, two unsuccessful attempts in 2022. I mean what's 2023 hold for us?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

Well, thank you. First of all, the -- this is all a matter of transition. I expect that the Executive Chairman role will only enhance the ability to transfer responsibility and authority and do so cleanly. So that's purely and simply the reason for that. Beyond that, I don't really want to get into Board dynamics and all of that, but probably will a little bit later at the AGM. The -- I think that answers the main question. Did I cover that or...

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

Yes. I mean it's not a -- you see it as a -- you're being involved at more to help with the transition. Does Douglas end up going on to the Board then as Managing Director at some point or as just CEO?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

He will as Managing Director, yes.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

So it's a Managing Director, CEO title, not just the CEO title. Okay. And your position as Executive Chairman has probably may not -- you'll give us more information at the AGM as to the duration of that, et cetera.

G
Garold Spindler
executive

Yes.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

Okay. Understood. Understood. And then just your focus as a company then with Gerhard's new extra hat on, does that mean we can expect you to be looking at opportunities more actively this year as well?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

I think that's right. The -- my role is largely as a liaison between the various shareholders and to make sure that management to shareholders and the dynamics of the Board intersect smoothly for the time. So some of that will involve looking at the opportunities that may exist or the new opportunities, they'll always come up. I don't know -- we don't -- we have nothing on the plate now, but -- and frankly, as the country listing song goes, sometimes, your greatest blessings are unanswered prayers, so I'm not sure that we're unhappy about the way things turned out.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

I appreciate that. And now, I guess, both thermal and met are on the table now when we look forward into this year and beyond.

G
Garold Spindler
executive

I'm sorry.

G
Glyn Lawcock
analyst

And I guess both thermal and metallurgical coal on the table?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

[indiscernible] scale, no, we continue to focus on that product.

Operator

Your next question comes from Paul Young with Goldman Sachs.

P
Paul Young
analyst

Got a few follow-ups. Maybe just continuing on the discussion around opportunities for the year. Just to ask, do you see opportunities in the Southern Bowen Basin this year with respect to acquisitions? Or do you think the opportunities are equal in the U.S. as well?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

We're seeing opportunities in both sectors. We'll look -- we have the ability to try and pick the best that we can find, and we have the unique ability to -- confident we operate in both jurisdictions. So we're seeing the opportunities for both places.

P
Paul Young
analyst

Yes, great. And then blue sky mining over -- versus underground, I mean, is there a preference?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

Not really. Again, we have the ability to do either and do so quite comfortably. I'd like to say that underground mining is simply -- or surface mining is simply the same as underground mining with good top and good ventilation. But people also pointed out that you don't get [indiscernible] with rain in underground mine. So we can balance attributes as we wish and as we look at the opportunities that come up.

P
Paul Young
analyst

Okay. And then maybe just on the topic of underground operations. Just to comment on the current or underground pre-feasibility study works and showing positive results. Listen, no doubt you outlined your development plans and CapEx, of course, with the full year results, but just interested in anything you can share around what the statement positive results actually means. And is the underground -- potential underground development at Curragh North, would that grow Curragh further beyond the 13.5 million tonnes per annum, conceptually?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

It remains to be seen. It's an economic decision. Right now, we're focused on ensuring the ability of the reserve to handle the equipment that we might put in it and evaluation of the quality of the top and the bottom, the seam thickness and the quality of the coal, et cetera. Whether we -- whether this does, in fact, increase our total production or replace some surface production, relies upon a cost consideration and the quality of the coal and its washability and we're not through with all that yet.

P
Paul Young
analyst

Yes. Got it. And Gerry, we're going to get the pre-feasibility PFS results with the 2022 financial results?

G
Garold Spindler
executive

I can't guarantee that, but you will, at some point later this year.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand back to Gerry for some closing remarks.

G
Garold Spindler
executive

Well, thank you, everyone, for participating in the call today. Should you have any follow-up questions, please reach out to our Investor Relations team. Thank you.

Operator

That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.