Laird Superfood Inc

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Earnings Call Analysis

First Profitable Quarter & Positive Outlook

In Q4 2023, the company achieved a milestone with $9.2 million in net sales, marking a 2.6% year-over-year increase. Wholesale sales, comprising 34% of total net sales, grew by 5% from the prior year. Gross margin rose significantly to 40.4%, benefiting from strategic shifts including third-party co-manufacturing and distribution. Operating expenses decreased substantially to $3.7 million, contributing to the company's first-ever positive net income and cash flow. With $7.7 million in cash and no debt, the company's improved model guides a promising outlook with projected sales between $38 million to $40 million for 2024, forecasting a 10% to 15% growth and gross margins ranging from 37% to 40%.

Wholesale Channel and Gross Margin Improvement

The fourth quarter showed a 5% year-over-year increase in wholesale channel sales, accounting for 34% of total net revenue, an encouraging sign of continued growth and distribution expansion in natural channels. Gross margin achieved an impressive milestone at 40.4%, marking a substantial 45-point increase compared to the previous year, and was a result of strategic decisions like transitioning to third-party co-manufacturing and distribution, along with a focus on revised packaging in Q2 of 2023.

Operating Expenses Decrease

The company saw a significant reduction in operating expenses, which totaled $3.7 million for the fourth quarter of 2023, down by $11.6 million year-over-year. This change reflects the benefits of previous restructuring activities and strategic cuts in marketing, leading to a leaner, more cost-effective operation.

Achievement of Positive Net Income and Cash Flow

A historical achievement for the company was realized in Q4 of 2023 with their first-ever reported positive net income of $0.1 million and a net cash addition of $0.3 million. This marks a stark contrast to the cash burns of $3.2 million in previous quarters and signals the burgeoning financial health and possible profitability trend of the company, despite the expectation that this trend might not proceed linearly.

Stable Balance Sheet and Cash Runway Extension

The company's balance sheet reflects stability with $7.7 million of cash on hand and freedom from debt at the end of the fourth quarter. This financial conservancy, alongside internal refinements, has extended their cash runway into 2026, indicating a solid financial footing and the potential to avoid the need for outside financial assistance, although they remain open to strategic funding options.

Future Outlook with Guided Growth

As the company moves forward, the focus remains on harnessing the most profitable growth opportunities while being vigilant about costs. Looking to the future, the guidance for the full year of 2024 estimates net sales to be between $38 million and $40 million. This anticipated growth of 10% to 15% over 2023 is bolstered by a projected gross margin expansion to 37-40%, evidencing a continued positive trajectory for the business.

Earnings Call Transcript 2023-Q4

[Operator]

Good afternoon. Thank you for attending the Laird Superfood, Inc. Fourth Quarter 2023 Financial Results Call. My name is Matt, and I'll be your moderator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to pass the conference over to our host, Steven Richie, General Counsel of Laird. Steve, please go ahead.

[Steven Richie, executive]

Thank you, and good afternoon. Welcome to Laird Superfood's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. On today's call are Jason Vieth, Laird Superfood President and Chief Executive Officer; and Anya Hamill, our Chief Financial Officer. By now, everyone should have access to the company's fourth quarter and full year 2023 earnings release filed after today's market close. It is available on the Investor Relations section of Laird Superfood website at www.lairdsuperfood.com. Before we begin, please note that during the course of this call, management may make forward-looking statements within the context of federal securities laws. These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in these forward-looking statements. Please refer to today's press release and other filings with the SEC for a detailed discussion of these risks and uncertainties. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jason.

[Jason Vieth, executive]

Thanks, Steven. Good afternoon, and thank you to everyone who has joined us today. Now that you have all seen our Q4 2023 results, I hope that you will agree that it is not an overstatement to say that Laird Superfood had a tremendous quarter. During Q4, we hit our team's goal of a financial trifecta, positive sales growth, positive profitability and positive cash flow, the latter 2 of which were a first time ever for our company while trading as a public entity. These results represent just the latest step in what has been a [ rather path ] of improvement since I first spoke with all of you 2 years ago. And I'm proud to say that these improvements have allowed us to remove the going concern disclosure from our financials. This is a significant vote of confidence in our financial position and outlook and further motivation for our team to ensure that we operate the business as professionally and confidently as possible.

I'll start with what might be our most noteworthy accomplishment in a quarter full of them. During Q4 2023, we were able to return our DTC business to plus 10% growth versus the same quarter in 2022. This was accomplished despite a decrease in our marketing spend by 54% during the same comparative period, which obviously means that our marketing effectiveness metrics surged once again during Q4. This represents our first quarter of growth in this channel since almost 2 years ago after the changes to [ iOS ] upended the DTC industry and was accomplished to more effective targeting and messaging and by highlighting our most solid products and creating better offerings for bundles and cross-selling.

One key to this accomplishment was the increase of our revenue from subscriptions to 46% of our total DTC net sales base, which I would assert demonstrates that consumers are recognizing the benefits from consistently attending to their health through their nutrition, and that our coffee, creamers, greens and the adaptogenic mushroom products are a perfect fit for consumers to create what we at Laird Superfood have referred to as the healthy daily ritual.

In addition to converting more of our customers to subscribers, we were also successful in Q4 in increasing our net sales from new DTC customers by 76% year-over-year, driven by our partnership with the Sean Ryan Show and other well-executed top-of-funnel marketing activities. I am also pleased to report that our average DTC order reached more than $57 in Q4. Given these metrics, it should not be surprising that our brand affinity remains extremely strong with our consumers. With our Net Promoter Score still hovering in the mid-70s and our customer satisfaction score at 4.9 on a 5 point scale.

A large portion of our e-commerce business is also conducted on Amazon. And here, I am happy to report that we have continued to make steady progress in returning this business to growth after the challenges created by the quality event that we encountered approximately a year ago. Out of that event, it took approximately 6 months to fully withdraw and replenish our coffee creamers on the Amazon platform. During which time, we saw a significant reduction in sales. But in Q4, with our stock inventory levels restored to normal, we were able to execute our marketing plan on this platform and restore our path to growth.

During Q4, our net sales through Amazon reached $1.76 million, a 38% increase over Q3 of '23, despite a 22% pullback in direct media spend on Amazon during that time. This is a testament to the cohorts that we have established on this platform which was further aided by 26% increase in revenue from subscriptions, which now represents nearly 1/4 of Laird Superfood net sales on Amazon.

Given the lapping of those 2023 challenges during the first half of this year, we expect to see strong Laird Superfood through Amazon throughout 2024.

Turning to our wholesale business. I am pleased to add that we continue to make steady progress in expanding our distribution in this important strategic channel. To date, our wholesale business has been largely concentrated in the natural channel, where we have continued to make great strides to build out our brand among consumers that are motivated by health. During 2023, our [ port ] of distribution in natural finished the year up 24% versus the end of 2022, driven by wins in large national retailers as well as across smaller independents that are vital to consumers in this channel.

Specific to Q4, I am pleased to announce that we were successful in securing national distribution with Whole Foods for our shelf stabilizers, which will complement the full national distribution that we had recently attained on our core item liquid creamer portfolio. Those items began shipping a few weeks ago and bring us to 8 items in distribution within Whole Foods across the country.

I'm equally pleased to share that we have also had continued success at [ Stautfarmers ] market who has been a great partner to our brand and where we now have 22 items in distribution, representing one of our most complete build-outs of any retailer in the country. I am also pleased to share that during Q4, we became the #1 brand within the coffee category in Sprouts, charging ahead of the life [indiscernible] all the other brands in this category. We believe that this is just the start of the exciting things to come as we continue to build our brand strength and share our health lines portfolio with consumers across the country.

As we look forward from here, we will execute an expansion strategy for additional categories in the natural channel and begin to put emphasis on growing our distribution and conventional channel, where we currently have very little distribution in a very large market.

Along with the success that we are having commercially, it comes with a recognition that we couldn't achieve any of this if we didn't have a supply chain that was a flexible, responsive and adaptive as we do. Last year, our supply chain was able to shut down our own facility in Oregon, identify co-packing distribution partners and move our entire business over the span of just around 2 months. Our supply chain team operated nearly flawlessly through a quality event in the first half of last year, quickly replenishing our raw material inventory and keeping most of our key suppliers supplied throughout that challenging stretch.

And now with our powder products fully transitioned to an asset-light supply chain model and with our liquid creamer transition behind us, we were able to achieve over a 40% gross margin during Q4. Our supply chain is flexible and agile and is built to support our future growth. Going forward, we continue to expect our gross margin to remain in the high 30s.

Our focus on cost management extends beyond the supply chain for our operational expense as well. During Q4, we reduced our total year-over-year adjusted OpEx of [ $6 million ] to $3.7 million representing a decrease of 38% in Q4 of 2023. This was accomplished by a broad-based reduction in our OpEx spend, which we will continue to manage tightly as we go forward.

And finally, I want to share a few thoughts on our cash position, which increased in Q4 2023 by $280,000. Based on our working capital needs and planned investments, we do not anticipate generating positive cash flow in every quarter. However, we do believe that with our planned growth rate in 2024 and beyond, we may soon be generating cash to support our operations. I also want to reiterate that we were able to remove the going concern disclosure from [ fires ]. We are proud of this recent change and believe that with our forecasting growth profile and gross margin outlook, the Laird Superfood is now in position to carry an improved financial profile in the future years. And now let me turn the call over to Anya to discuss the fourth quarter results in more detail.

[Anya Hamill, executive]

Thank you, Jason. Net sales were $9.2 million in the fourth quarter of 2023, an increase of 2.6% as compared to $9.2 million the prior year period and flat to the third quarter of 2023. As Jason discussed, both the e-commerce and wholesale channels delivered growth in the fourth quarter. E-commerce contributed [ 66% ] of total net sales and increased 2% year-over-year, led by DTC growth of plus 10%. These improvements were in part offset by a year-over-year decline in Amazon sales of 12%, a substantial and narrower decline than in the previous quarters and driven by a 59% Amazon media spend reduction as we resolve to improve profitability on this platform.

Wholesale contributed 34% of total net sales and increased 5% year-over-year, reflecting continued growth in club and distribution expansion in the natural channel as well as product velocity improvement behind updated packaging, which launched in the second quarter of 2023. Gross margin in the fourth quarter rose to 40.4%, which is a 45-point improvement on a year-over-year basis due to charges related to Sister's activities in the fourth quarter of 2022. On an adjusted basis, gross margin improved 21 points year-over-year and 10 points sequentially versus Q3 of 2023, driven by continued benefits of transitioning to third-party co-manufacturing and distribution.

Q4 gross margin of 40% is a milestone that supports our expectation that we can deliver margins in the upper 30s in the coming quarters. Operating expenses in the fourth quarter of 2023 totaled $3.7 million, a decrease of $11.6 million compared to $15.3 million in the prior year period. This reduction was driven by lab and expenses related to our exit from Sisters in the fourth quarter of 2022. At [ coded ] onetime charges, operating expenses were reduced $2.4 million, primarily due to lower marketing costs, resulting on strategic cuts of inefficient spend and lower people costs and other general and administrative expenses following the restructuring activities in 2022.

I am pleased to report that in the fourth quarter, for the first time in the company's history, we achieved positive net income and positive cash flow. Net income as reported was $0.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2023, an improvement of $15.7 million versus the prior year period. Net cash add in the quarter was $0.3 million compared to cash burn of $3.2 million in both the third quarter of 2023 and the fourth quarter of 2022. These results were driven by margin expansion and significant reductions in general and administrative costs, demonstrating the strong progress that we have made in managing costs and pushing the business towards profitability in future quarters, although we do not expect this to occur in a perfectly linear manner.

We ended Q4 2023 with $7.7 million of cash and no debt as we continue to conservatively manage our balance sheet. We now project that we will have enough cash to fund our operations into 2026. And our annual report on Form 10-K will not contain the going concern language that was included in our prior quarterly report. Further, after many had conversations with several vendors regarding our ability to put in place an asset-backed loan, we are optimistic that such a vehicle is available to us, should we decide that we would prefer additional funding to support our operations or growth.

The changes we have made to our business model have significantly improved the underlying economics and strengthened our competitive position. As we go forward, we will continue to focus on maximizing our most profitable commercial growth opportunities while maintaining strict emphasis on continued cost to drive the business towards profitability and maintain our cash position to support our future operations and other opportunities that may emerge.

Our full year 2024 guidance is as follows. Net sales are expected to be in the range of approximately $38 million to $40 million, representing growth of 10% to 15% compared to 2023. Gross margin is expected to expand to approximately 37% to 40%, excluding any onetime extraordinary charges, representing a 7 to 10-point improvement versus 2023. With that, I'll turn the call back to Jason.

[Jason Vieth, executive]

Thanks, Anya. I know that I seem to say it every quarter, but I want to reiterate that I believe that the future of our Laird Superfood business has never looked brighter. This time around, please indulge me while I share my thesis for that condition.

First, our Net Promoter Score and customer satisfaction scores are indicative of our incredible brand strength and the trust based on our brand by Laird Superfood consumers and should be the envy of any virtually any major food company today.

Second, our product portfolio is well positioned for the health and wellness trends that continue to grow in importance both within the U.S. and internationally, as demonstrated by our Q4 volume and sales growth. Importantly, our gross margin is now in line with many of the premier companies in our industry and can provide us with strong cash generation as we continue to grow our business.

And finally, I would wager that our organization is as still, competent, motivated and engaged as any similarly sized company in the industry. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready to open the call to questions.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] First question is from the line of Bobby Burleson with Canaccord Genuity.

[Bobby Burleson, analyst]

Congratulations on turning the corner here towards a much better performance, so it's really exciting to see. So I guess, like my first question is just -- when we think about the growth for this year that you guided to, what kind of OpEx growth would be required to support that guidance? It sounds like online is coming back nicely. And obviously, your spend is a lot lower these days in DTC. So just curious, are you spending more to access conventional? Or can you really drive a lot of operating leverage this year? .

[Jason Vieth, executive]

Yes. Bobby, it's a great question. Thanks, by the way. I appreciate it. We're really excited, obviously, about this quarter and where quarter came in. Yes, good to talk to you again. So look, I mean, the reality is, and you and I have discussed this as well, so I know this won't be a surprise to you.

But we built this team really to be able to scale from here, and we don't believe we need really substantially any more OpEx. There are a couple of line items that are going to be variable in the P&L, and the broker commission is one of those. So as we continue to grow that piece of the business, we'll pay additional brokerage fees. Or on the flip side, as we continue to grow Amazon, there is a variable component selling cost to that as well. So we will have to scale those 2 sales organizations as we grow. But really, Bobby, to be honest, our organization is built to be able to carry not only this organization but the [ tiki bar ] -- or sorry, not only this brand, but the [ tiki bar ] business as well. And frankly, as I've told them many times, we're in a position that now with everything that we've done that if we were to make an acquisition at any point or if we were to scale the business significantly from here over the course of the next 12, 18 months, we don't really have to make any additional investments to do that.

[Bobby Burleson, analyst]

That's great. Really great to hear. And then a quick follow-up just on where the growth is coming from. Obviously, you guys highlighted daily [ creams ] and performance mushrooms as part of that DTC growth. And I'm wondering kind of the overall perception of the brand, does that -- do you guys start to move more into other kind of performance-centric or things like ready-to-drink shakes? Or are there other adjacent categories that kind of reflect Laird's athletic prowess and something that's more performance-oriented where the brand would really kind of explode?

[Jason Vieth, executive]

Yes. That's certainly a question that we've been discussing as a team over the last couple of months. We've been in a position that as you guys know from the last couple of years, we really had to turn around the business, where the business was on a path to running out of cash pretty quickly a couple of years ago. And so the last 2 years have really been focused around rebalancing the portfolio, getting our mix right and then obviously resetting the cost base. Not only in terms of the manufacturing and distribution costs, but all of the G&A and marketing as well.

And so we're really close to that, I would say, Bobby. We're still refining it and see some opportunities here as we go forward as well within that core business. But certainly, now we are in a position to do 2 things that we were not in a position to do previously because that gross margins, as you'll recall, that were so anemic, that we couldn't expand the business without losing more money. Well, that's done. We now have a gross margin that is approaching best-in-class manufacturers within the food space. The more we sell, the more cash we drop to the bottom line. And so the sales team is dead set, focused as bricks-and-mortar opportunities, and we've had, as I mentioned on that call -- and I know the sound quality wasn't great. Hopefully, it's better now.

But we've had tremendous calls throughout 2023 that we believe will result in additional distribution going forward, just as we always do. But we've really been able to be aggressive with those sales calls because we now have the margin to support expansion.

The other thing to get more directly to your question that we're really starting to focus on now is how do we expand and continue to grow our legacy within superfoods. For a little while there, we became a creamer brand. And we do still have a great creamer business. And frankly, the best creamer product on the market, the cleanest, best tasting, most nutritious product on the market.

But we also have this amazing greens product, which I would tell you is the best tasting, most nutritious product in that space as well. And we have these performance mushrooms, mushroom products, [ adaptogenic ] mushroom products that have taken off. And it's really been those 3 products, in particular, with support from a number of other categories, including bars. But those 3 products being greens, adaptogenic mushrooms and creamers, that are carrying the bulk of the weight for the portfolio.

But it broadened us in doing that. It broadened our shoulders to really be that superfoods brand, not just a super-creamer brand, but a superfoods brand, and does open up the opportunity to get to some of those more performance-based categories in RTD and others are certainly on that list, Bobby.

[Operator]

Next question is from the line of Alex Fuhrman with Craig Hallum.

[Alex Fuhrman, analyst]

Congratulations on the many milestones that you hit here in the quarter. What I'd like to ask about is the return to positive e-commerce growth which certainly seems like a big milestone. And if I'm interpreting your comments correctly, it sounds like growth on lairdsuperfood.com was even especially strong. Can you talk about what's been driving that? I know you mentioned some of your newer products helping to lift average order size.

Has that been the primary driver? It looks like you guys have been emphasizing subscriptions more as well. Just any color on that would be helpful and what we might expect to see on lairdsuperfood.com into this year and beyond.

[Jason Vieth, executive]

Alex, nice to hear from you. Yes. Great question, and I certainly want to be able to talk more about this. I could not be more proud of our DTC business. It is, in fact, that LSF or lairdsuperfood.com platform that returned to a 10% growth. That's the first growth in a couple of years. We have a new leader on that business. I mean you guys know we've changed a lot of the organization now. We have a new marketing leader and we have a new DTC channel leader as well, and that combination has proven to be really powerful. We've done -- I'll tell you a couple of things in particular that have really helped to drive that. One is that same broadening of our portfolio that I mentioned a moment ago with Bobby. It's really not only been the creamers in the last months, but the creamers, the greens and the adaptogenic mushrooms that are doing really well. And that's a function of a couple of things. First is we've really reengaged [ Laird ] as the real brand representatives of Laird Superfood. I would say that's only natural, and you would think why did we ever not? Why did we ever go away from that?

And I think just as I mentioned before, a couple of years ago, there was some drift to that, and that's completely changed. In doing that, we've really seen a great response from the activations that Laird and [ Gabby ] are doing. It's always our highest ROI and highest ROAS material marketing collateral that we put out. So that's rally great.

We also entered a partnership with Sean Ryan, Sean Ryan Show. Sean, the podcaster, has a tremendous show, one of the largest followings in the country and the world. And Sean is not only an advertiser or an advertising platform with us. Sean's our partner. He partnered with us, became an investor into the business. He is a big advocate of mushrooms, adaptogenic mushrooms, and the benefits for folks that have had traumatic brain injuries as well as everybody for their general health. And in becoming a spokesperson, trusted spokesperson for the adaptogens, he's just been an unbelievable partner to us as well, and we really enjoyed working with Sean and have had tremendous benefit. So those 2 have been really large.

And the third factor that I'd add to that is our DTC team has just done incredible work to turn consumers into customers and customers into subscribers. And as a result, we have almost 50% of our revenue in DTC channel now coming through subscriptions, which obviously pay off over the long term in terms of the stickiness and the amount of volume that consumers continue to order, especially when they consider how beneficial it is to their health on a regular basis.

So those 3 factors have been the key driver, and we anticipate that they're going to be long [ living ] for us.

[Alex Fuhrman, analyst]

That's terrific. Really appreciate that. And then if I could ask also just on the returns and discounts, it looks like that was the lowest level in the fourth quarter in more than a year. Where is that improvement coming from? Is that more -- I know you had some kind of higher-profile incidents with some of your wholesale customers and things like that. Is that kind of coming from the direct channel as well? And do you expect those improvements to continue into this year? .

[Anya Hamill, executive]

Alex, this is Anya. Thank you for the question. So I can address that. Yes, you're right. It was the lowest in the year. However, like we talked in the last couple of quarters, Q2 and Q3 were high because we chose to invest into growth for retail business. And so we're now starting to pull that back, and we did so in Q4. So part of its savings -- part of the savings are coming from our wholesale business, and we'll continue kind of at that optimized level of spend. Not quite linear, not quite maybe as low as Q4, but in that range. DTC also, as we have optimized mix between trade and marketing investments, there's some savings coming from that business as well, although not nearly as much as from retail. So I think you can expect to see pretty similar range and mid-teens in terms of discounts going forward in '24.

[Operator]

Next question is from the line of JP Wollam with ROTH Capital Partners.

[John-Paul Wollam, analyst]

If I could maybe just start with sort of the revenue guidance for next year. Just want to kind of talk from a high level, maybe what gives you the confidence in revenue growth? And as we think about kind of the drivers of that growth for next year, maybe if you could just talk about sort of what -- and I don't know how much you want to say, but maybe [ being ] in there, if you'll have some small [ red doors ] coming online in the middle of the year. But anything you kind of just want to say about how that revenue will build.

[Jason Vieth, executive]

Yes. JP, good to talk to you again. So I'll start off. I'll give a couple of thoughts on that, and then I'm going to hand it over to Anya. She can talk through the cadence a little bit, but I want to give you some of those drivers of where our confidence comes from. So I'm going to go sequentially through 3 different channels and platforms.

Starting with Amazon because that's -- for us, that's a really attractive opportunity for us. I mentioned on the call a couple of minutes ago on the prerecord that last year, we had a bit of a trough in Amazon because we had that quality event in Q1, we had to withdraw all of our inventory out of Amazon. And that means you have to withdraw from their DCs and then they have to go out to all the micro DCs that they send to so that you can get that order in 24 hours or so.

So it's a slow process. And we had to pull it all back before they let us put anything else back in because it all had the same SKU numbers, so -- or UPC numbers. So as a result, we lost somewhere around 5, maybe 6 months of creamer sales in that -- on that platform. And it wasn't -- I mean, I can't say it was 0, but we really lost a lot of business. And as a result of that, when you lose that [ pizza ] business, you lose the opportunity to cross-sell as well.

And so I would tell you that there's just a tremendous lapping opportunity on Amazon as a result of that. On top of that, we have very positive Amazon sales growth going on even before running into that. So as you saw, coming into Q4, we were closing the gap quickly despite significantly less spend. And as we were in 2023, we had pulled back the spend. And so you're going to see now in 2024 just a tremendous opportunity for us to grow that category -- or that platform rather.

And then to finish out the online business or the e-com business, the DTC opportunity for us really driven off the same fundamentals that I just shared with Alex's question, it just looks great. I know it's been a rough road for a couple of years. And frankly, it's been a rough road for a number of our competitors and continues to be. So I think we're blessed to have a really great team in this space. They have really honed their ROAS metrics to make sure we're only making smart investments now that return at least to our bare minimum acceptable ROAS, which is profitable at this point for us.

We also have Laird and Gabby and we have the Sean Ryan partnership, and with those 2 sets of highly influential individuals, Laird and Gabby, I guess, 3 individuals, Laird and Gabby separately, but then Sean Ryan as well, we feel we can really invest behind those 3 and continue to make hay in that category or in that platform, rather.

And then finally, wholesale. And I didn't leave it for last because this is our biggest opportunity by far. We're still in just a fraction of the doors within natural, and we're in almost no doors. And I know it's not really no doors, but we have very few distribution points within the conventional space today. So within natural first, I mentioned that we now have 8 items in Whole Foods nationally. We were in just -- maybe 12 months ago, we had a couple of liquid items, 3, I guess, liquid items, and we had 3 powders regionally, if I remember correctly.

Now we have 8 items nationally. So this is a big distribution change for us year-over-year. We believe there's significant opportunity to continue to expand within Whole Foods as we go forward or into other categories with our portfolio. That's now really been, I would tell you, displayed in a best-in-class fashion at Sprouts. I mentioned that on the call that we now have 22 items in distribution at Sprouts, 20 of those are in full distribution. We have a few more that we're working on now that we believe really in the Sprout stores.

And then we're continuing to do the same with the new brokerage that we've employed. We continue to do the same thing now. to expand out into all the independents and the smaller chain stores. So just a really exciting opportunity within natural to continue to close distribution gaps.

But then the big opportunity, the much larger opportunity even is on the conventional side, where we really haven't put any effort in the past. And so the addressable market and the opportunity, the white space that we have in distribution in that conventional space is absolutely enormous, JP. And so these numbers, [ as quick ] gives me confidence. These are numbers that I think are very attainable for us this year. We're committed to those numbers. And I think as we go forward, we'll continue to dig for upside.

[John-Paul Wollam, analyst]

Appreciate all that. If I could just do one follow-up and maybe this one is more for Anya. But there was the comment about the ABL during the earlier remarks. And I just wanted to kind of follow up and make sure I'm thinking about it correctly. But was the commentary there more just that it was a vote of confidence in the future of the business? Or as we think about kind of expanding some of the SKU expansion and some of the growth next year, is that something that you think is going to be put into use next year to either build inventory or kind of fulfill some of that demand?

[Anya Hamill, executive]

Yes. Thanks for that question, JP. Yes, we think that we have enough cash to get us through 2024 and '25 and hopefully beyond. However, the point of that comment was to signal that we do have additional liquid resources or liquidity in case if we needed for working capital expansion or any other opportunities that may arise. If we choose so, those funds are there based on conversations that we've had with several lenders. That would be available.

[Operator]

There are no additional questions waiting at this time. [Operator Instructions] There are no additional questions waiting at this time. I'll now pass the call back to the management team for any closing remarks.

[Jason Vieth, executive]

I just want to thank everybody once again for jumping on. This is by far the, I would say, the best performance that we've had as a public company, and we're really excited for the path from here. As we go forward, we'll obviously be back talking with you guys in just a few weeks, given how late the annual call ended up. And as we wrap Q1, look forward to getting back with everybody to share the continued progress on the story. So thanks much.

[Operator]

That concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.